1 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome into another edition of Crush City Territory. 2 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: I'm Channel Room, joined by Tyler Stafford and Josh Reddick. 3 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: After what was I've been covering the Astros for eight years. 4 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: I can't remember a three game series quite like the 5 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: one that they just played against the Baltimore Orioles at 6 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: Dyke And Park. They were four outs away from getting 7 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: a perfect game thrown against them on Friday. On Saturday, 8 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: they played perhaps the worst Major League Baseball game I've 9 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: ever seen in person this season, and then today they 10 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,599 Speaker 1: just got absolutely boat raced twelve to nothing to end 11 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: what was? You know, they went three and three on 12 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: a six game homestand like, let's say that first, but 13 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: it didn't feel like they went three and three. They 14 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: got out scored forty four to seventeen in the six 15 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: games against the Orioles in the Red Sox. It was. 16 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 1: It did not feel like a three and three homestand 17 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: but uh, that is what the final score is. 18 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 2: Say. 19 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: And again, at the end of the season, they don't 20 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: ask you how they just ask you how many And 21 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: they got they got three wins, which is really all 22 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: that matters. But Josh, this was not uh This was 23 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: not a work of art, this entire home stand and 24 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: certainly not this series against the. 25 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 3: Oorl And they didn't even deserve to win Saturday's game. 26 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 3: I mean no, that was a horrible decision by the 27 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 3: third basement. Plenty of time to throw home the pictures 28 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 3: on deck. 29 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 2: Hitting right right would waiting on deck like so they 30 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: definitely shouldn't have walked away with that one. 31 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 3: But yeah, looking back, it feels like they got swept 32 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 3: by the Orioles and lost at least five or six 33 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 3: at home. So nobody probably rather more happy than everybody 34 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 3: in Houston see that that series is being done and 35 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 3: over with. You can see chats on the mound twice 36 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: and that was. 37 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 4: Finn mm hmm. 38 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was not something I had on my Bengo 39 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: car that Chaz McCormick would pitch twice in a six 40 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: game stretch. But here we are. I don't really know 41 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: where to start here. I think we should start with 42 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: because fans are fans are always want the positive at 43 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: the beginning. Jordon Alvarez is going to play for the 44 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: Corpus Christy Hooks on Tuesday, which is a very very 45 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: good sign for a lineup that desperately needs an infusion 46 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: of something they need to spark. They need somebody to 47 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: come back and just energize and mash in this lineup, 48 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: and Jordon Alvarez can be that guy. Joe Spota saying 49 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 1: today that Jordan will report to Corpus Christi on Tuesday 50 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: to start his rehab assignment. For everyone wondering why it 51 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 1: will not be Monday, Monday is the universal off day 52 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: for minor leaguers, so no minor league baseball is played 53 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: on Monday, Alvarez will d h on Tuesday. GM Dana 54 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: Brown said today that he will be off on Wednesday, 55 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: that is planned, and then they're going to play him 56 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: on back to back days Thursday and Friday, see how 57 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: that goes, and then evaluate. But Tyler, this was the 58 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: news that everyone is waiting for. But I think even 59 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 1: in my opinion, like I'm still a little skeptical because 60 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: of the twists and turns this thing is taken. I 61 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: don't think I'm gonna be confident that he's gonna play 62 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: for the Astros until he is in an Astros uniform 63 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: and in a major league line up. 64 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I will wait to celebrate until as as we 65 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 4: learned with Uh was it McCormick who or was it 66 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 4: Myers that made it out to center field and then 67 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 4: didn't even get to play. Yeah, so we're gonna wait 68 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 4: until he swings a bat for the first time in 69 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 4: an Astros uniform on the field to celebrate. And I 70 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 4: guess we also need to say, make it through most 71 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 4: of the game without uh, you know, bubble guts, which 72 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 4: is what hit Christian Haavier today. So we we got 73 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 4: to see him out there. But I mean it's a 74 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 4: step in the right direction, certainly. And uh, it's just 75 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 4: about the only good news that came out of this 76 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 4: weekend that was that was legally baseball that we watched, 77 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 4: And that's about the nicest thing that I can say 78 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 4: about that series. That was awful. I mean, I said, look, 79 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 4: I watched every single out of the twenty thirteen season. 80 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 4: I was in college and MLB used to have a 81 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 4: condensed game that they'd put up after every game that 82 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 4: was like half an hour and it was literally every out, 83 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 4: So I watched every what happened? Right, Yeah, Yeah, Well 84 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 4: now they do it, but they're like ten minutes long 85 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 4: and it kind of skips around. They used to have 86 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 4: it to where like you saw literally every the end 87 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 4: of every at bat of every game, and so I 88 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 4: watched all of it, and Friday's game might have been 89 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 4: the worst game i've I've ever seen. That was just 90 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 4: especially with the expect I had a lot of people say, like, 91 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 4: did you watch Matt kin throw up perfect? I'm like, 92 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 4: Matt Kane was good and the Astros were terrible. This 93 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 4: is a team that's in first place in the division 94 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 4: against a guy who was zero and ten in his 95 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 4: first starts in the big leagues, and they they just 96 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 4: looked lost and there was no energy. It was. It 97 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 4: was awful to watch. And then Saturday they only won 98 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 4: because the Orioles did not want to win. That, I mean, 99 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 4: that was that was it. I watched them get a 100 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 4: runner on third with no outs in the bottom half 101 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 4: of an extra inning game with the Manford rules and 102 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 4: somehow not score, which I don't even know how that's possible, 103 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 4: and then the only way they won was a botched 104 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 4: double play, which is I mean, that's the perfect way 105 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,679 Speaker 4: to end that game. That was just awful baseball all around. 106 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 4: And today was just unwatchable. I mean, just just a 107 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 4: truly dead team. It was. It was brutal to watch 108 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 4: this weekend. So yes, jord on coming back is basically 109 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 4: the only thing that we have to look forward to. Uh. 110 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 4: You mentioned Chas McCormick lower to Zra today to nine, which, 111 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 4: fun fact, is lower than Forrest Whitley's career e RAH 112 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 4: with the Astros. So don't know what to do with 113 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 4: that information, but I thought everyone should have it because 114 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 4: I know positive to talk about. 115 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: H Josh, I want, I want your opinion on a 116 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 1: couple things. First, let's get back to Jordan real quick. 117 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: A lot of fans, when you know they're told he's 118 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: going on a rehab assignment, their first inclination is maybe 119 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: because he's been out so long. Their first inclination is 120 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: why not just get him back in the big league lineup? Like, 121 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: if he's healthy enough to take it bats in Double A, 122 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: he's healthy enough to take it back to the big 123 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: league level. I know that that's faulty logic, but I'm 124 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: speaking from the comment section from people on my social 125 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: media feeds. Can you explain to people why a rehab 126 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: assignment would be required for Jordon Alvarez, who has not 127 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: played in a big league game since May. 128 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 2: Second, Well, first. 129 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 3: Of all, you got to make sure you're healthy, like 130 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,559 Speaker 3: you don't want to activate him and then have something 131 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 3: go wrong and have a Jake Myers experience be out 132 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 3: there in the first first of bat and then you 133 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 3: got to drop him and then put somebody else in 134 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 3: there like it was on the basket. Let's just say 135 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 3: like du Bond has the off day and all of 136 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 3: a sudden, you were doing you know, your don comes out. 137 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 3: Dude gets in there in before hoole. So if it 138 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 3: kind of makes sure you're gonna make sure you got 139 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 3: the right guy healthy. But timing, you gotta get your 140 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 3: timing back. You know, it doesn't matter if you're facing low, 141 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 3: a high, a single, a double, a college big league pitching. 142 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 3: You gotta have your timing back. And that's one thing 143 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 3: that's all about rehabing hit it. It doesn't matter the results. 144 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 3: It's all about are you seeing pitches, are you recognizing pitches, 145 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 3: or you're putting good swings on it. So he can 146 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 3: go down there for three days and go oh for ten. 147 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 3: But if he's hitting the ball and having good at bats, 148 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 3: then you bring him up. So it's all about getting 149 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 3: your timing and making sure you're healthy. 150 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 2: That's newly only. 151 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: And the weird thing is like rehab assignments have become 152 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: like less and less in vogue, especially for position players recently, 153 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: because they can do a lot of things. They the 154 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: Astros have done it with their guys. They've sent him 155 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: Florida and they've had minor league guys throw live VP there. 156 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: You've seen guys. They when they tried with Jord on 157 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: the first time, they brought minor league guys to dike 158 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: In Park to throw live VP to him, and they 159 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: were going to activate him a couple of days later. 160 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: So rehab assignments are by and large kind of going 161 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: by the wayside for position players pitchers. You have to 162 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: do it just because you can't do that at the 163 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: just at the complex, but because he's been out so long, Like, look, 164 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: if Jordon was out for a month, then I could 165 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: get on board with, oh, maybe you can skip a 166 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 1: rehabit signment. And that's what they were going to do 167 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: the first time he faced live VP at dyke In 168 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: Park and then they figured out his hand was fractured. 169 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: They were going to activate Hi without a rehab assignment. 170 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: But he hadn't been in a big league game since 171 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: May second, So I'm okay. I mean, not that my 172 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: opinion matters, but I think it's duh, like dull, you 173 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: send him on a rehab assignment. This was not a 174 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: situation where you want to take any chances, especially with 175 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: the history that's going on here. And Tyler said one 176 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: other thing about the weekend. You know a couple of 177 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: times referred to them as they look dead, they looked lifeless. 178 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: I and I want a former player's perspective on this. 179 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 1: I always kind of cringe when I hear that, because 180 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: baseball is the one sport where like, if you're not hitting, 181 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: it obviously looks it doesn't look good, like if you're 182 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: not playing well in football or basketball, Like you can 183 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: still see hustle, you can still see effort, you can 184 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: still see like big hits, Like even the worst, even 185 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: the football teams that win two games every year, you 186 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: can see effort and energy. Same thing with basketball. That's 187 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: just not the case with baseball. So I think a 188 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: lot of times when a team has a bad weekend, 189 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: or when a team has a bad stretch, it's automatically, oh, 190 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: they're lifeless, they have no energy. But it's hard in 191 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: baseball to judge that, just because this is not a 192 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: physical sport. It's not a sport where you are physically 193 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: showing energy. But it's got to take a toll though, 194 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 1: Josh Right, Like when you've got a weekend like this 195 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: where Friday you almost get perfect game, Saturday you win 196 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: the game, but you play twelve innings and you don't 197 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: play well in those twelve innings, and then Sunday was 198 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: just a disaster, Like like where's the balance there of 199 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: like judging effort as opposed to just this is a 200 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: team that just couldn't hit. 201 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 3: For three days, and I mean it just breaks down 202 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 3: to not having being able to hit for three days. 203 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't really. 204 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 3: Think any Maybe if you're going out there feeling feeling dead, 205 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 3: like you don't have one hundred percent in you, the 206 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 3: effort level is definitely able to be there, so bad 207 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 3: stretch and that's what that's the way it looks like. 208 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 3: It gets magnified more and more as we get into 209 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 3: the social media and morph camra. 210 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 2: Angles and everything. So effort level is definitely there. 211 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 3: But you know, when a team plays bad, it can 212 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 3: look at look at several different ways how you want 213 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 3: to how you want to do things. So when they're 214 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 3: not doing anything right, when you're not winning, when they're 215 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 3: not catching any breaks, everything goes against. 216 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 2: Them the wrong way. 217 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 3: It just it looks completely wrong because you're used to 218 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 3: seeing these guys be so successful, and you know, when 219 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 3: they came over right after the deadline, they started off 220 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 3: pretty pretty good, so it kind of gave everybody a 221 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 3: little bit of a boost so about and now they 222 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 3: kind of do after beating the Red Sox two out 223 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 3: of three. So it's I think it's just more of 224 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 3: less retired to roller coaster like find it, find it 225 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 3: even playing to even down on as opposed to these 226 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 3: you know, gullies and mountains. Just find more of an 227 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 3: even keel spot, I think is what people want to 228 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 3: expect to see. 229 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 4: Maybe yeah it was uh yeah, I mean, look, a 230 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 4: lot has happened since Jordon has been out. The last 231 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 4: game we played was May second. Uh to give you 232 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 4: some context, uh, we didn't even have an American pope yet. 233 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 4: That was that was a whole week later. That's how 234 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 4: long it's been since Jordon has played Major League baseball, 235 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 4: which feels like a lifetime ago. But I mean, yeah, 236 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 4: he's gonna need to take some swings in a in 237 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 4: a real game. Get that rhythm going because Josh, as 238 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 4: you said, you know, the the last report was what 239 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 4: he took like eight live at bats in in West Palm. 240 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 4: I mean he needs to get up, sit back down, 241 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 4: warm up, you know, get getting in the field. Yeah, 242 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 4: getting in the field. I mean, as you say, gotta 243 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 4: wear them cleats around. That's the hardest part. 244 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 2: I mean, it's being in shape is a whole lot 245 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 2: different than being. 246 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 3: In baseball shape. I mean it's even for a dhre. 247 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 3: You know, you're on your spikes again consistently, and especially 248 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 3: they're like you're walking around in a dugout the whole time. 249 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 3: And usually in my league ballpark, those dugouts are linked 250 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 3: to the clubhouses, so you're not you're really stuck where 251 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 3: you are if you're a d H So it can 252 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 3: get a little little hectic. 253 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 2: You know, I was never a fan of the d. 254 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 3: X spot myself, but it takes a special kind of 255 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 3: crazy to be able to pull off the DH spot. 256 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 3: But you know, you're standing around those spikes man your feet. 257 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 3: You have to get used to being in for a while, 258 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 3: because must be real, how many times has you were 259 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 3: done to put on metal spikes? 260 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 2: Since many. 261 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 4: Look if the issue is the spikes and a dugout 262 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 4: is a problem. I am an expert stroller pusher at 263 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 4: this point. If the Astros need me to come in 264 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 4: with my double Zoe and just push Jordan around, and 265 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 4: I'm willing to do it. I'll do whatever it takes 266 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 4: to see jord On on a Major League baseball field again. 267 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm happy for the Hooks current roster because 268 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: they're about to eat well for at least three games. 269 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 1: For as long as he's there, Jordon's gonna treat them 270 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: very well. Good for Waterburger Field, good for the city 271 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 1: of Corpus Christie because there's about to be a bunch 272 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: of people at that ballpark next week or this coming. 273 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 4: You think he hits a home run because it's very 274 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 4: hard to do it left handed in Corpus Christie. Have 275 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 4: you played? Have you played there, Josh? 276 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: I think there. 277 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 4: It's hot, That wind blows like thirty miles an hour in. 278 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 2: From right eight balls out to left center, well. 279 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 4: Left center, sure, but I need to see him pull 280 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 4: one to right field into that water park over there. 281 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 4: Probably he definitely could. That's true. 282 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: If there's any left handed hitter that can do it, 283 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 1: it's this guy. Speaking of lefties, we'll talk about a 284 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: left handed pitcher that spoke for the first time on 285 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: Saturday since spraining the capsule in his left shoulder. 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And more importantly, Josh just 319 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 4: putting in work on you in Ping pong. That's what 320 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 4: I want to. 321 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 2: Wasn't going to come out, but you know what's just 322 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 2: we're there. 323 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 3: I want to hear your mouth say it that you 324 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 3: weren't expecting the challenge you got. 325 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 4: You You were very good. But listen, there's one thing 326 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 4: in the world that I do well, and it is 327 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 4: attempt to play ping pong. I was nervous, but I 328 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 4: did go over Josh's house and fix his I felt 329 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 4: like the Apple genius over there, just fixing a fixing 330 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 4: a computer, installing a microphone. I'm gonna come over in 331 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 4: troubleshoot it again. Well, we'll get it up and running. 332 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 4: But the record I did three, yeah, yeah, you got one. 333 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 2: For game two. Southball got me Chamlin. I didn't realize 334 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 2: it was all speak. 335 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: Speaking of Southball, you played. You played ping pong with 336 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: Josh Hater and Corpus right Tyler. 337 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 4: I did, and Joe Musgrove was the best he was. 338 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 4: He was the one that did. And but look, I 339 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 4: was the ringer in Corpus Christie. They they'd bring me 340 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 4: in whenever they got bored playing each other. That's what 341 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 4: I was expecting. Josh, you were much better than the 342 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 4: minor leaguers I played in Corpus Christy. I don't know 343 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 4: if that makes you feel any better. 344 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 3: Uh, I told you Man and Oakland, that's was what 345 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 3: we had played crisp way too often. 346 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 2: And got my but I've ever seen in my life, Yeah, 347 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 2: and that's that's the norm. 348 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 3: And if you're in my leagues, usually a ping pong 349 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 3: tabler when you're down free time. 350 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 2: If you've ever been to the Open Coliseum's home side, 351 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 2: a whole lot going on over there. 352 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 4: Well, I'm now taking all challengers. Any other Major leaguers 353 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 4: that want to play ping pong, hit me up. Josh 354 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 4: can vouch for me. I am I'm at least good 355 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 4: enough to take on a challenge. 356 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 1: Well, if another Josh is listening to this, Josh Ader 357 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: will have some time to challenge you to ping pong 358 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: if he so desires, because he will not throw a 359 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: baseball for the next three weeks. After he was diagnosed 360 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: with a left with a sprain of the capsule in 361 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: his left shoulder, he saw it multiple opinions on the injury, 362 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: Josh Hater said without prompt that one of the things 363 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: he was most excited about was that he was able 364 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: to avoid surgery. Then he was asked if surgery was 365 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: on the table. He said no, and it was never 366 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: really discussed, but he basically said that was his biggest 367 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: fear when this happened, that it was going to be 368 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: something that needed surgery and that this was going to 369 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: be a very, very long term thing. As it turns 370 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: out as of this moment, it is not. But Josh 371 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 1: Hayter I got a I'm just gonna call him hater 372 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: because every time I say Josh like I'm gonna I'm 373 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 1: gonna look at Retick and this so hater spoke on 374 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: Saturday in the clubhouse, and it was very interesting conversation. 375 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 1: He said outright that he's thinking about longevity with this, 376 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 1: and this is a guy that the Ashers have under 377 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: contract for three more years after this one, and he 378 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 1: made it pretty clear that he is going to be 379 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: very prudent with that in mind, to think of you know, 380 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: not just maybe this season, but the three that follow it. 381 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: That does not mean he's not going to try to 382 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: get back this season. He did all but rule out 383 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: a return this regular season only because he's not throwing 384 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 1: for three weeks, and that three weeks started now. It 385 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: didn't start, you know, last week when he last pitched. 386 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 1: That starts now, so he's not throwing for three weeks. 387 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: And then to hear haters say it, he's gonna need 388 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: three more weeks after that to build up the season. 389 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 1: There's only six weeks left in the regular season. 390 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 4: And that's assuming he's ready to go after three weeks, which. 391 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: Right, And to be clear, Josh Hater did say he's 392 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: going to get more imaging after this three week in 393 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: activity in the three week of no throw, which is 394 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: an important note when you consider the Astro's history of 395 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 1: reimaging injuries. But Josh Hater said he will get new 396 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: imaging of three weeks after that they'll determine kind of 397 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: what the throwing program looks like. There is a chance 398 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: he would return for a potential postseason series. Hater said 399 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: that that is something that he would like to do. 400 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: He would like to be a part of the playoff push. 401 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: But he made it pretty clear that he's not gonna 402 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: be stupid with this, like he is not going to 403 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: rush should he, because again, he has got to think 404 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: about what the future is these next three years under contract, 405 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: and they've invested a lot of money in him. He 406 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: is very he is a guy that wants to make 407 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: a return on that investment. He's been very very clear 408 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 1: about that that the Astros committed to him. He wants 409 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 1: to commit to them as much as possible, and sometimes 410 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: that means you got to sacrifice maybe a short term 411 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: goal for the greater good. And that's the vibe I 412 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: got from him. I'm not here to tell you that 413 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 1: he's never pitching again this season. If everything goes right 414 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: and he feels right and the Astros are still in 415 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 1: this thing and toward the beginning middle of October, I 416 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: see a situation where it could happen. But I would 417 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 1: proceed very cautiously with any thought that Josh Hater is 418 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,239 Speaker 1: going to pitch agin for this team this season. And 419 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: Josh Reddick, I think that's the prudent way to look 420 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: at it. And you're somebody that you were on a 421 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: four year deal. Once you're on a four year free 422 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 1: agent deal, once you understand when a team commits to 423 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: you kind of the response, you also have to commit 424 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: back to them. I think this is a prudent way 425 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: to look at it. By Hater for sure. 426 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I mean, fans may not want to 427 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 3: hear this, but you know, winning is very important, but 428 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, you got to look 429 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 3: out for yourself, Like if you want to continue to 430 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 3: stay in this game and succeed at it, you got 431 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 3: to look out for yourself because I've I've been on 432 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 3: both into that I've been to where I've come back 433 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 3: way too early where I shouldn't have and it affected 434 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 3: my performance. And then there's been you know since that, 435 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 3: since that injury, it was always about you know, making 436 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 3: sure that I'm going to come back ready to go, 437 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 3: and that was I love though he's saying all of 438 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 3: these things, talking about being committed to the team, being 439 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 3: committed to himself as well, because yeah, he does. 440 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 2: Have three more years. If it was a one year, 441 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 2: two year deal, you know what, maybe it's a different story. 442 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 3: But this is a guy that they need for three 443 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 3: more years after this, and they've got a very capable 444 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 3: guy to close games for him while he's gone. Ryder 445 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 3: Brady should be able to step up no problem in 446 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 3: this role. But for Hater to come out and say 447 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 3: these things, probably, I think that's the best thing for him, and. 448 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:58,959 Speaker 6: I love I said he's going to get more imaging 449 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 6: done three weeks too, I mean, just because for him, 450 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 6: Like you know, I've talked about this podcast, like it's 451 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 6: not just always about the training staff or the medical staff, 452 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 6: like at some point it's about the player too. 453 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 2: You have to look up for what's best for you, 454 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 2: whether they tell you it's okay or not. 455 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 3: Like, no, it's up to me. This is my body, 456 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 3: this is my investment, my money. My body is worth 457 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 3: all this money. I'm gonna make sure I get it right. 458 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 3: So good on him to make sure he gets everything 459 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 3: where he needs to be. But you know, regular seasons 460 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 3: out for sure. I love it, and three weeks could 461 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 3: line up perfectly for him to come back. For those 462 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 3: that don't know, there's plenty of injections to get in 463 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,239 Speaker 3: this game, especially when October rolls around, that make you 464 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 3: feel better. 465 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 4: Than Superman, better than Spider Man, Yeah, No, better than Superman, Tyler, Yeah. 466 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 4: I mean, look, if he can pitch in October, that 467 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 4: would be a straight up miracle. I am just assuming 468 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 4: that that is not happening. I mean, that would be incredible. 469 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 4: But I did just google shoulder capsule strain and the 470 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 4: top result is from the Cleveland Clinic. Uh, and it 471 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 4: is called frozen shoulder, which I don't like the sound 472 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 4: of that, Folks, that's what my wife gives me. Am 473 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 4: I right, I don't have that problem, right? Uh? And 474 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 4: it takes a whole lot longer than three weeks to 475 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 4: fix that. Uh, sorry, Alicia, I know you listen to this, 476 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 4: love you, but seriously, yeah, no, it's not good. Look, 477 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 4: it's it's it's not good. He throws the baseball with 478 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 4: that shoulder. I don't know if you've noticed. So it's 479 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 4: it's gonna be very tough for him to come back. 480 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 4: But again, the the best news is that it's not 481 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 4: something that needs surgery and he's out all of next 482 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 4: year already. Now that could happen. We we could get 483 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 4: imaging in three weeks and. 484 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 3: So Google says surgery through six weeks, three months. 485 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 4: So okay, Google says it. I mean, at this point 486 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 4: they might do imaging and find Jordan's broken bone in 487 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 4: his shoulder. So who knows what's gonna happen, Yes, exactly, Yeah, 488 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 4: somehow it's transferred into his shoulder. But yeah, I mean, 489 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 4: just hoping for the best. It's funny to say that 490 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 4: this is best case scenario, but I mean when it 491 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 4: came out and it's shoulder capsule and you're like, oh goodness, 492 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 4: this might be something that he's gone for a while with. 493 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 4: I mean, even the hope of maybe he can pitch 494 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 4: at the end of the playoffs is much better than 495 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 4: I was expecting when when all this was announced. 496 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 2: His first trip to the disabled Ministry, whatever you call it. 497 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, his career, right, he has been. He has been 498 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: the portrait of health. He did go I mean he 499 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: went on the COVID IL in twenty it doesn't count 500 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: he tested positive for COVID, but this is the first 501 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: physical ailment that has sent him to the has been. 502 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 2: That's a good sign too that this could be, you know, 503 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 2: the first minor step for him to come back. So 504 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 2: that's a really good time to do the first one. 505 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: And I think it's interesting to talk about it in 506 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: the prism of you know, we we just said he 507 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: had never been on the IL in a nine year 508 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: major league career. He has been more open in his 509 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: year and a half with the Astros to throwing multiple innings. 510 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: This was something that he when he was his tail 511 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: end of his career with the Brewers and then with 512 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: the Padres, he told them I'm only throwing one inning. 513 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: And it was in part because of some things that 514 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: he felt were wronged to him in arbitration, which that's 515 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: a whole nother podcast topic. Yes, and one correct and 516 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: the other. The other one was that he wanted to 517 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: protect him he wanted to protect his health. He said 518 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 1: that on the record that he wanted to preserve his 519 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: health for when he went to free agency and went 520 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: to free agency got the massive contract from the Astros, 521 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: and then when the Astros gave him that contract, he said, 522 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: as we started the segment with you know, they committed 523 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: to me, so I'm going to commit to them and 524 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: be available in whatever capacity. He went more than one 525 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: inning seven times last season and went more It has 526 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: gone more than one inning seven times this season and 527 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: after the last one was his last outing was a 528 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: two inning, thirty six pitch appearance at Yankee Stadium. Hater 529 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: said he woke up the next morning feeling sore, but 530 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 1: you're supposed to feel sore when you pitch. Every pitcher 531 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: wakes up the next morning feeling sore. That's not an 532 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: indictment on anything. He warmed up on Sunday to get 533 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: into the game. Astros scored four runs in the ninth inning, 534 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 1: so the safe situation went away, so Hater didn't pitch, 535 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,959 Speaker 1: but he kind of intimated that he felt good warming 536 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: up in the bullpen, but again had the normal kind 537 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: of soreness that you always kind of have got to 538 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: the ballpark Monday, was doing some ply of work and said, 539 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: you know, he felt something that he knew was not right. 540 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: And he even said, he goes, I know what general 541 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: soreness feels like, I know what muscle fatigue feels like. 542 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 1: He goes, this felt different. So it does beg the 543 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: question like, is he done throwing multiple innings or do 544 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: we think that for the next Because we just talked 545 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 1: about is he is approaching this rehab as a guy 546 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: that's balancing the present and the future because he knows 547 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: he has three more years left on this contract. Do 548 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: you think we see him make himself as available as 549 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: he has been the first year and a half, or 550 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: do you think this is something that could impact whether 551 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: he's willing or whether the Astros are willing to throw 552 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 1: him for multiple innings. 553 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 4: I think once he's healthy, he's going to pitch as 554 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,199 Speaker 4: much as his arm doesn't hurt. I mean, obviously in 555 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 4: the short term he's not going to be doing multiple innings. 556 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 4: But I mean, you know, in July of next year, 557 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 4: of his arms feeling fine, don't I don't see that 558 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 4: being an issue, especially because I don't think that's what 559 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 4: caused this pre Again, gosh, hater is not incapable of 560 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 4: throwing thirty five pitches. Relievers are not like magically weaker 561 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 4: than starting. It's just a different build up and the 562 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 4: way that you pitch. But I know I've talked about this, 563 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 4: but I watched this man throw a hundred pitches in 564 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 4: Corpus Christy. He is capable of doing it. That's just 565 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 4: hasn't been the role that he's been in. So yeah, 566 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 4: I mean, once once he's feeling better, I don't see 567 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 4: that being an issue. But right now, I just want 568 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 4: him to throw one pitch for the Astros. That's that's 569 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 4: all I care about right now, high fatall, Yeah, sure, 570 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 4: I don't care. He can pick any of them all, 571 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 4: all two of his pitches. He can pick one of them. No, 572 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 4: he does not. He does about once a week and 573 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 4: step the box and oh oh no. 574 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: I mean I know you would argue about it. 575 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 4: Let's go no, oh my gosh, pee my pants in 576 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 4: the left handed batter's box against no chance am I 577 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 4: stepping in. 578 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: It was interesting to hear because he was asked, you know, 579 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: whether he thought the workload and whether he thought the 580 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: change in usage contributed to this, and I mean he 581 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: said what he had to say, he goes, how can 582 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: it not? I mean, it's obvious, like they're like when 583 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: you change that much, And and just the role of 584 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: a reliever as well, and John and Hater even said this, 585 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,719 Speaker 1: you know the role of a reliever inherently, like you 586 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: don't get a ton of rest, Like you are available 587 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: most nights. Like the only time you know you're not 588 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: available is when you've pitched two straight games. You're not 589 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: You're not going to go three in a row unless 590 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: it's in September or unless it's in the postseason. So row, 591 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: So inherently, you know, usage probably the usage impacted. But 592 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: to say, and again, I want to make this clear, 593 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: to say that he strained his shoulder, he sprained the 594 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: capsule in his shoulder because he threw thirty six pitches 595 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: and two innings in Yankee Stadium. It's just that's not true. 596 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: That's just not you know, pitching is an unnatural art. 597 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: You're not supposed to be able to do this. And 598 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: pictures break down. Pictures are built to break down. And 599 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: as we said on the last pod, it is a 600 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: minor miracle that Hater did not require a trip to 601 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: the injured list before this, Like that speaks to his preparation, 602 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: It speaks to his body, how well he takes care 603 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: of his body. Quite frankly, it speaks to a little 604 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: bit of luck because. 605 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 2: You got a free being a little bit of a 606 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 2: freak freakish get away with it. 607 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, he is a freak, big freak. Josh, how many 608 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: how many no hitters have you played? In? 609 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 2: Two? One by jv in Toronto, then combined one at home. 610 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. 611 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: The Sanchez be a genie da Vinsky Harris. 612 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I. 613 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 3: Had one in Boston, never had one in Open La 614 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 3: or obviously god Arizona. 615 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 4: You weren't on the wrong side of one. No, never, Wow, 616 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 4: you were always getting hits. 617 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 3: Actually came to was in Dodger Town, Dodger Stadium. I 618 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 3: didn't play Matt Moore to eight and two thirds perfect 619 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 3: gettings against this, and then Corey Seeger got a blue 620 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 3: pit with two strikes in the night. 621 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: Oh, it was perfect. That was perfect. 622 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 2: It was perfect. 623 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 3: It might have might have been, but I'm pretty sure 624 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 3: it was perfect, like one hundred and thirty pitcher like 625 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 3: semi perfect. 626 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 4: Eating appreciate it, I mean, without looking at up, can 627 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 4: either one of you say the man's name who almost 628 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 4: threw a perfect game against the Astros two days ago. 629 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I can't. 630 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 2: I just morgane't know. 631 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 4: I don't remember his first name, his last names Young? 632 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 4: What's his first name? 633 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 2: Change? 634 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: Brandon? 635 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 4: Oh, good job, look at us. We almost got it. 636 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: Brandon Young and undrafted. Uh, I mean this was it 637 00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: would have. 638 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 2: That's why they made him looks so good. 639 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: That's their I don't think it's hype. I don't think 640 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: it's hyperbole to say if he would have finished that 641 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: perfect game, it would have been maybe the most unlikely 642 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: event in baseball history. 643 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 4: Philip Bumber was pretty bad. 644 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: Hold on, Philip Bumber was a dog. 645 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 2: He was pretty dark, good for a little while. Like 646 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 2: phil Humber wasn't bad always. Yeah, he just said he 647 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 2: said my man to start. Yeah, like, like. 648 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 3: You, Darbus is out there and throw twenty thirteen pitched 649 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 3: into the trash. 650 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: Shows Like Philip Umber was a first round pick. Yeah, like, 651 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: I get it, he didn't have a good big league career, 652 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: But like that dude was a first That dude was talented. 653 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 4: And I'm not third overall pick. 654 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to sit here in trash. Brandon Young, 655 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: who threw the game of his life on Friday, and 656 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: that that kid deserves a ton of credit. But like that, 657 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: it's not hyperbole to say that would have been one 658 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: of the most unlikely events in baseball history when you 659 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: put it all together. A first place team, a team 660 00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: that I know there's gonna be a lot of people 661 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: that that roll their eyes at this, but have the 662 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: second highest batting average in the American League. This is 663 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: a team that can't hit, Like I know, they didn't 664 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: show it this weekend, but they can hit. They've got 665 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: at least one Hall of Famer in the lineup every day. 666 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: You know, maybe they'll have a couple more by the 667 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: time they're all the careers shake out, but they're starting 668 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer every day. And the Orioles completely 669 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: sold at the deadline, are a shell of themselves. And 670 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: to watch that unfold was one of I've never been 671 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: more stunned in in a ballpark than I was watching that. 672 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: And then if he sets his feet on that PfP 673 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: like it, I'm convinced he gets it or it worse. 674 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 2: If he doesn't rush he gets them by like two 675 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 2: or three. 676 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 4: Steps, yeah, I mean, or if he makes it look worse. 677 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 4: It was. It was the perfect combination of like he 678 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 4: was close enough that they could rule it a hit, 679 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 4: but if he just like eats it coming off the mound, 680 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 4: maybe they they give him an error or something. But 681 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 4: I mean, gosh, that that was awful to watch, Like 682 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 4: I watched the whole you Darvish Marwin Gonzales perfect game breakup. 683 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 4: But that team was garbage. Like like you said, the 684 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 4: Astros are a good team, they just I mean, they 685 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 4: looked like they were sleepwalking. What do you have like 686 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 4: sixty pitches in the seventh inning? Like he was just 687 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 4: steam rolling everybody. 688 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: And you got I mean, Josh, did you Josh, did 689 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: you watch it? Did you watch the highlights? Okay, from 690 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,800 Speaker 1: what you saw from the highlights, like was it good stuff? 691 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: Because I couldn't really tell, Like, I mean, he look 692 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 1: he commanded it very well, like he had great command. 693 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 2: I just I think guys just got over anxious. 694 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 3: It just felt like the team was just over anxious 695 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,879 Speaker 3: in the box, Like you know, I just didn't feel 696 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 3: like everybody had the right approach, and this kid was 697 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 3: just where the guys had their off night. 698 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 2: He was head on his off night. 699 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 3: And that's what you get when you get everybody that's 700 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 3: off their night and you can throw everything well, because 701 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 3: in baseball you can have a horrible day and a 702 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 3: pitcher still throw on and you just get lucky and 703 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 3: slap it and the other way. When you have those 704 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 3: kind of games where this guy's literally pitching his butt 705 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 3: out and you're just up there trying to grind to 706 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 3: touch the baseball, it becomes a whole different factor. 707 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 4: No, he did not have great stuff. Let me go 708 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 4: on the record for that. That was not a man 709 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 4: just dominating. No, it was just a garbage approach for 710 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 4: the Astros were just embarrassing. It was so bad, I 711 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:42,399 Speaker 4: mean it was. It was awful. That was not Look, 712 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 4: no disrespect to Lumberton High School legend Brandon Young, but 713 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 4: that was not him dominating a team that was just awful, 714 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 4: awful hitting all around. It was. It was bad man 715 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 4: that I am. I don't know, I don't I don't 716 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 4: ever want to see that again. That was That was rough. 717 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 4: Fun fun fact. He has literally the worst off speed 718 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:13,919 Speaker 4: run value of anyone in UH baseball for for stack cast, 719 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:22,280 Speaker 4: he was in the first person. It's bad. I mean, yeah, 720 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 4: so look, congrats to him. That was awesome. His parents 721 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 4: were there, I believe which is awesome. 722 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 1: His mom was pissed. 723 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 4: Well, she's upset. She spent all this time going to 724 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 4: his games, and he came and through a perfect game. 725 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:39,959 Speaker 4: Think of how many ponies. 726 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 2: Perfect baseball? And then I yelled at when, yeah. 727 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 4: I would, I wanted. I was expecting to leave in 728 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,240 Speaker 4: the fourth when you got yanked after giving up seven runs. 729 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 4: He made me sit here the whole game. 730 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: And then like, I mean, Josh, I'm sure you can 731 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 1: attest to this. You've never played in one against you, 732 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 1: but like it's got to creep ano their mind too. 733 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,800 Speaker 1: They're probably looking up in like the fifth inning, and 734 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: it's like they maybe don't know what perfect game is 735 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: going on. They're probably like they. 736 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 4: I'd know in the second inning if if I'd made 737 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 4: it that far. 738 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 3: Rolls around to talk about it, but everybody's watching them. 739 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 3: It's definitely thought about it. And then as obviously as 740 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 3: the innings go on, I mean, everybody gets it. Everybody 741 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 3: sees that big fat goose egg up there, and you know, 742 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 3: everybody realizes and recognize that you're sending three guys at 743 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 3: the plate and putting your glove right back on. 744 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 4: I needs collectively to take a real big nap and 745 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 4: come back in the next series. Rested because they they 746 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 4: looked like they were just sleeping this whole weekend. It 747 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 4: was now granted they may all have the Black plague. Chandler, 748 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 4: how are you feeling you've been in the clubhouse, are 749 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 4: you How'd you tell me? 750 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 1: I'm fine. I don't know if it's that either. But 751 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 1: like Painia didn't play Friday, got in the game at 752 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,720 Speaker 1: the end Saturday because he was dealing with something. Christian 753 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: Xavier left today's game with what they described as an illness. 754 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 1: Joe Spota, it was a very odd post game today. 755 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: I'm not sitting here trying to play conspiracy theorist. I'm 756 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 1: really not, Don't get me wrong. I'm just gonna tell 757 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 1: you what happened. Joe Aspada said that, you know, Christian 758 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 1: Javier just came off the mound and said he didn't 759 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 1: feel well. We tried to ask, you know, did he 760 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: report to the ballpark sick, and just all they would 761 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 1: say was he came off the mound, said he didn't 762 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: feel well, and then in the clubhouse we were told 763 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: that he was off site seeing doctor, so he would 764 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 1: not speak to the media. It is worth noting that 765 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: the velocity on all of his pitches was down around 766 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 1: two miles an hour. Again, if he's fatigued, that can't 767 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 1: happen from an illness, like if he really if he's 768 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,720 Speaker 1: sick and he's fatigued, that that happens. And Christian Haavier 769 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,919 Speaker 1: is also a pitcher, that velocity doesn't really matter with him. 770 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: Like obviously, if he's throwing eighty six, it's a problem. 771 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 1: But because of the extension, because of the IVB and 772 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 1: the Hoppy gets on the fastball, like he can throw 773 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,240 Speaker 1: ninety one and it's still and it comes in looking 774 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 1: ninety five ninety six. He can have success when his 775 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 1: velocity is down. He saw it today. Yeah, you know, 776 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 1: he got through those three innings and I think you 777 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: want to give up one run, Yeah, because the Sanchez 778 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 1: rob the Grand Slam. But I mean it was very odd, 779 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: and you know, hopefully for Christian Hoavier's sake, it is 780 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,439 Speaker 1: just a virus or a thing that he can pass 781 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 1: in twenty four to forty eight hours and be fine. 782 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 1: But just very odd all around it. It didn't have 783 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 1: great vibes after the game. 784 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it was not good. Now listen, the Astros 785 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,280 Speaker 4: medical staff has been under quite a bit of heat 786 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 4: this year. I would say the issue has been incompetence, 787 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 4: not lying. If he came off and said I don't 788 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,280 Speaker 4: feel well, and Joe Spotta said he doesn't feel well. 789 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 4: He's seeing a doctor because he doesn't feel well, I 790 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,359 Speaker 4: am inclined to believe that. I don't think that if 791 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 4: his arm was hurting, they would make up a lie 792 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 4: about him not feeling well. I think he just came 793 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 4: off and didn't feel good, and that's what it is. 794 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:21,399 Speaker 4: And so until we hear otherwise, that's I will give 795 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 4: them the benefit of the doubt on that side of things. 796 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 4: Of I assumed that you were telling the truth about that, 797 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 4: because there's no reason to lot like it was arm 798 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 4: was hurting. They would say he's got a case of 799 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,240 Speaker 4: the arm hurts or whatever, and then do some imaging 800 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 4: in a week. But that's that's not what happened. Yeah, sure, whatever, 801 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean that that stuff happens. I get it. 802 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 4: We also know he loves coffee, so maybe it was 803 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 4: just running through him. We've all been there, you know. Look, 804 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 4: he'll be all right, hopefully, hopefully it's just an illness thing. 805 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 4: But yeah, so. 806 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 2: You never know. Man, you're always around those guys working out, sweating, 807 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 2: everything gets into the scenity of everybody. So maybe he 808 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 2: just caught it. 809 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 1: And were you on the team when Brad Peacock had 810 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,760 Speaker 1: to go on the ile with handfoot and mouth disease? 811 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,399 Speaker 4: And now as a parent, you know how terrifying that is, 812 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 4: very terrifying. It's so scary. 813 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, he got it from his kids, Like you guys 814 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: didn't like obviously, like you guys didn't let him come 815 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,800 Speaker 1: to the clubhouse for like, I didn't see Brad Peacock 816 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 1: for like three weeks because he had hand foot and 817 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 1: mouth disease. So it gets, uh, it gets weird in there. 818 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 1: Mentioned maybe they can get some sleep for the next series. 819 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 1: It's not going to be easy. They are going to 820 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 1: go to Detroit and go play three games at Camerica 821 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:53,399 Speaker 1: Park against a J. Hinch Trek. They're gonna get. They'll 822 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,879 Speaker 1: get Trek's schoobl on Tuesday against Tunn Brown and what 823 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,959 Speaker 1: will be that will be must see television Terrek School 824 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 1: one Hunter Brown probably one two on a lot of 825 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 1: cy Young ballots right now. If you look at all 826 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,919 Speaker 1: the counting stats, the Astros damaged Garrett Crochets, cy Young 827 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,959 Speaker 1: candidacy on this home stand. That was probably the lone 828 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 1: positive to come out of it was that they did that. 829 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 1: But Detroit is they're just they're really good. They're a 830 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 1: tough out. You look at their lineup, you look at that. 831 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: Obviously they have Trek School, who is the best pitcher 832 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 1: in baseball. They don't have a ton on the position 833 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,839 Speaker 1: player side that that jumps out at you as like, oh, man, 834 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 1: like this dude's a superstar. You know, Riley Green was 835 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 1: an All Star, but he's had a pretty terrible second half. 836 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 1: Haaby Bayaz was an All Star center fielder. Who knows 837 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 1: where he'll be playing when they get there, you know. 838 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 1: But it's a team that does a lot of things 839 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 1: really well. They're just they they seize every platoon advantage. 840 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 1: They you know, AJ runs a lot of like mix 841 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: and match lineups. He finds spots with his bullpen where 842 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,839 Speaker 1: he can match great. I mean, Josh, you play for AJ, 843 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 1: you know how great of attack, tiss and a strategist 844 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 1: he is in game in late game, there's gonna be 845 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,880 Speaker 1: a tough test. They get Jack Flaherty on Monday, they 846 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 1: get Terry Scoobell on Tuesday, and then on Wednesday, a matchup 847 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:15,240 Speaker 1: of the two Astros World Series winning pitchers, Charlie Morton 848 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:20,440 Speaker 1: against from Er Beldez Man Charlie Good. Charlie Morton, what 849 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 1: a great human being. 850 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,760 Speaker 2: Every day every day walking. How you doing, Chuck today? 851 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:35,720 Speaker 3: Maybe today read for what arm blows out? 852 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,760 Speaker 4: I feel like I feel like he is reluctantly pitching, 853 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 4: like I think he wanted to retire five years ago, 854 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 4: and he just keeps accidentally being good at baseball, and 855 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 4: he keeps like having to go out there. 856 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,919 Speaker 2: Realized that his ball moves this much in ninety four 857 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 2: miles an hour. 858 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he really turned it around too. Because if 859 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,439 Speaker 1: you watched him in April with the Oriels, the team 860 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,280 Speaker 1: the Astro just saw you, you'd probably thought his career 861 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 1: was over. And to watch him turn around and get 862 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 1: traded at the deadline to a contender, good for good 863 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,880 Speaker 1: for Charlie Morton. One of the best people in baseball, 864 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 1: one the best people you'll ever meet in the sports. 865 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 1: So it'll be a tough one for the Astros coming up, 866 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,120 Speaker 1: you know. And then they go from Detroit and they 867 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 1: get four games against the same Orioles team that just 868 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: did not show much fear uh this weekend and taking 869 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 1: a series at Didyk and Park, so it'll be, uh, 870 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 1: it'll be an interesting one. If you've got time to 871 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 1: pass and if you've got disposable income that you'd like to, 872 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 1: uh like to do things with, you can shop at 873 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:44,239 Speaker 1: Crush Shitty Territory Shop dot com by some merch. I've 874 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 1: got my coffee mug on the way. I'm very excited 875 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 1: for that. I'm gonna I'll do anything for a good 876 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 1: coffee mug, so I've got mine coming. 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