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Speaker 1: Smell us now, lady, Welcome to Meet Eater Trivia podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Meet Eater Radio Live. It's eleven am Mountain Time.

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Speaker 2: That's seven am for our new friends in Tahiti on Thursday,

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Speaker 2: October thirtieth, and we are live from Meet Eater HQ

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Speaker 2: in Bozeman, Montana. I'm your host, Randa Williams, joined today

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Speaker 2: by my very close friends and colleagues, Seth Morris and

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Speaker 2: Corey Calkins.

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Speaker 3: Happy to be here.

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Speaker 4: Great to see you again, Randall.

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Speaker 5: On today's show, we'll interview Jordan Sillers, host of the

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Speaker 5: Blood Trails podcast, which officially drops today. That's correct.

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Speaker 2: We'll play a little game called fake news. We'll interview

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Speaker 2: Lauren Dolkater, who submitted one of the most unusual customer

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Speaker 2: service requests in the history of First Light. And finally

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Speaker 2: we'll look back at the good old days in another

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Speaker 2: installment of Throwback Thursday. Then here I write did we

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Speaker 2: have any plugs? And then below that Corey is added.

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Speaker 2: Season thirteen of Meat Eater keeps rolling on with the

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Speaker 2: second episode, which dropped a few days ago, Steve's Montana

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Speaker 2: Muzzloader Mule Deer Hunt. Next Monday is Steve and Evan

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Speaker 2: Felker's Alaska black bear hunt. And we also just dropped

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Speaker 2: a thrilling Ryan Callahan deer and elk combo hunt that

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Speaker 2: is sure to please viewers. Well said, that was a

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Speaker 2: nice touch.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 2: Boys. How are we doing today?

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Speaker 3: Oh we're good.

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Speaker 5: It's a good, good week in Ja.

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Speaker 3: It's hot in season.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Oh my goodness, ball is in the air,

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Speaker 4: deep falls in the air.

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Speaker 5: But some of us have already closed the book.

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Speaker 2: Some of us had a short elk season on the

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Speaker 2: chapter of our hunting season.

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Speaker 5: So Corey, how was your weekend?

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Speaker 4: Oh it's fantastic. Got into a bunch of elk. Oh

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Speaker 4: more elk than people, which usually good opener.

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Speaker 3: That's a wind right there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, agreed, because man, I've had some openers where I

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Speaker 4: see a pile of people and zero elk or you know,

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Speaker 4: more people than elk. But so yeah, had a good

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Speaker 4: plan rolling into opening morning and uh didn't get it done.

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Speaker 4: Watched a few elk fall from other groups of hunters.

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Speaker 4: But Saturday was tough for us. The weather was just

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Speaker 4: oh windy, is get out?

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Speaker 2: Geez.

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Speaker 4: We joked multiple times we should have just brought a

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Speaker 4: flag or excuse me a kite with us a flag

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Speaker 4: to wave up on the side of the mountain.

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Speaker 2: You could have also stuffed your backpack full of elk

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Speaker 2: meat so that it catches a lot of wind and

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Speaker 2: spins you around as you walk down the mountain.

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Speaker 5: I like I could have used that was my innovation.

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Speaker 4: A little added weight would have actually makes you very unstable.

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Speaker 4: But Sunday I helped the buddy get a nice bowl,

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Speaker 4: which was fantastic. Mm hmm, not too bad of a

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Speaker 4: pack out. Beautiful day on Sunday and gorgeous. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 4: still hunting myself, though I'm a little picky still. We

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Speaker 4: got a long season and something about having a tag

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Speaker 4: deer and elk tags in your pocket in late November

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Speaker 4: a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 2: I'll trade you mine deer tag for your elk tag.

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Speaker 3: Not even that's how it works.

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Speaker 4: No, sure, I don't even think about deer until my

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Speaker 3: Seth.

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Speaker 2: I'd trade you my dear tag for your elk tag.

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Speaker 2: But that thing ain't good no more.

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Speaker 6: That's right, brother, Uh got you guys are insufferable.

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Speaker 5: We're getting so good at this, hell get good at this?

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah. Opener was a good one for me. M

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Speaker 3: and you tell me more.

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Speaker 5: Uh, well, brother, and then I'll tell you more.

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Speaker 7: I saw more people than elk by far, darn it,

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Speaker 7: what you know, That's how it goes around here.

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Speaker 3: But you know one thing I like about the open

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Speaker 2: Stuff's happening, Yeah, heavy button.

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Speaker 3: I just feel like I'm always in it.

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Speaker 7: It's never a quiet day, yeah, no matter how many

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Speaker 3: And that's what I experienced.

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Speaker 7: Saw a lot of dudes in openings, open areas. Every

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Speaker 7: So I was like, you know what, I bet the

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Speaker 7: bet they oh, the boys being the people the people?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I bet by the boys you met the elk.

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Speaker 2: And no, in fact, you were thinking the opposite, that

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Speaker 2: the boys would be in the timber, yes, sneaking around

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Speaker 3: Where the boys exactly? Yeah, that's not confusing, but not

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Speaker 7: So yeah, I started doing some timber sneaking and just

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Speaker 2: I'd like one of them, I'd like to put it

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Speaker 2: on the record that when Seth talks about elk hunting

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Speaker 2: and he visualizes how he'd like his elk season to

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Speaker 2: shooting a bullet close range. So when you texted me

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Speaker 2: like that stuff, oh, I was delighted for you.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it was. It was exactly how I wanted it

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Speaker 2: Really m hmmm, So happy for you.

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Speaker 7: And you know I I lucked out and had a

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Speaker 7: very short pack out. That's which never happens.

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Speaker 5: That's great, and now you have elk in the freezer

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Speaker 5: for your growing family.

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Speaker 3: That's right, beautiful.

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Speaker 2: What's your sons? Did I blow it?

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Speaker 3: No, it's it's announced. One on the way. Yeah, this

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Speaker 5: Yeah, let's go back and cut that.

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Speaker 2: And if we could trim that out for the YouTube audience,

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Speaker 2: that would be and done.

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Speaker 2: I mean you're gonna feed that animal, yeah, which is

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Speaker 2: cool to think about. Beautiful.

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Speaker 4: I get ready to throw that meat and a blender.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a strong, handsome young Morris.

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Speaker 4: Little meat smoothies for the that's right.

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Speaker 3: What's your actually?

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Speaker 6: Spencer Spencer Newharts in the chat which we all love,

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Speaker 6: he says. Now Seth has to get back a Randa

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Speaker 6: by telling a secret about him.

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Speaker 4: Oh, secrets. Secrets are no fun unless you take secrets.

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Speaker 2: Do I have.

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Speaker 3: All the secrets I know about Randa? Would put him

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Speaker 2: So yeah, let's avoid those. Thanks for asking about my

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Speaker 2: elk hunt. Yeah, it's great opening morning. This was a

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Speaker 5: Camp, spend a good long time. Actually I haven't told

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Speaker 2: Spend a good long time pumping water and filling up

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Speaker 2: the filter and his can of bear spray hooked on something.

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Speaker 3: Oh you did tell me about.

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Speaker 2: That, And so this is I'm standing like five feet

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Speaker 5: And I thought it was a bear.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they should really look into making bear spray

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Speaker 2: deployments not sound like bears, because at first I thought

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Speaker 2: probably smell it, but we couldn't. Interesting So that yeah,

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Speaker 2: then spotted some elk. Then Saturday mornings, the opener didn't

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Speaker 5: Got to a couple of bulls.

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Speaker 2: A couple of smaller bulls sneaked across the property line

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Speaker 2: there and I had an opportunity for a shot. It's

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Speaker 2: my rifle. I placed the bullet accurately and uh tremendous damage.

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Speaker 2: Elk went down quickly, and then we packed it out

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Speaker 3: What time of morning did you shoot that bull?

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Speaker 5: Late morning, like round ten thirty.

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Speaker 3: Mine was nine thirty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's.

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Speaker 5: Odd because we killed the exact same bull.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So at some point we're gonna have to bring

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Speaker 3: They are remarkably remarkably similar.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the bowl we killed was at high noon day

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Speaker 4: after but really, yeah, never give up throughout the day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, high noon, Yeah, I mean it is It is funny.

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Speaker 2: I've killed some things by just thinking to myself, well,

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Speaker 3: What was ebel? Was that a five by five? It

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Speaker 2: Ye if that means yeah, five by five, that's thirty

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Speaker 4: Yeah, great work, congrats fellas.

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Speaker 2: Joining us on the line first is friend of the program,

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Speaker 2: Meet Eater managing editor Jordan Sillers. His new podcast, Blood

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Speaker 2: Trails is officially out as of today, Thursday, October thirtieth,

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Speaker 2: so go subscribe and check it out.

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Speaker 5: Jordan, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 9: Hey, good to be here.

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Speaker 2: You you just had a successful hunt of your own,

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Speaker 2: if I recall correctly from the gram I did. Yes.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I got to go out to Colorado and get

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Speaker 9: mule deer.

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Speaker 3: Very nice?

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Speaker 5: Is that a first mule deer? As a Texan.

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Speaker 9: It is, yes, first mule deer as a Texan. So

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Speaker 9: you know, not nothing huge, but three by three I

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Speaker 9: was very happy with.

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Speaker 2: Very good.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, a good end to about five or six days

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Speaker 9: of hunting.

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Speaker 5: Nice, very cool, cool way to go.

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Speaker 3: Congrats, Jordan, thank you.

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Speaker 2: The first episode of Blood Trails comes out today and

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Speaker 2: it involves the disappearance of a hunter named Bob Christian.

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Speaker 2: Can you tell us a little bit about the facts

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Speaker 2: of the case.

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Speaker 9: Yes, So, Bob Christian was an eighteen year old kid.

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Speaker 9: He's a college freshman. He lived in Madison, Wisconsin, and

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Speaker 9: he had a plan to go hunting on the opening

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Speaker 9: day of archery season. And this was all the way

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Speaker 9: back in nineteen seventy seven, so he was, you know,

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Speaker 9: one of the earlier people to really get into archery,

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Speaker 9: archery hunting white tail, and so the plan was there.

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Speaker 9: He was going to drive up to his buddy's house

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Speaker 9: in Bearaboo, which is about a forty five minute drive

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Speaker 9: Oh, that's just a little league I got the game

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Speaker 2: Well, Jordan, good to see you. Congrats on this. I

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Speaker 9: Absolutely, And just one quick plug if you have a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good lord Jordan.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, got goosebumps. Watch your six while you're out in

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Speaker 5: Our next segment is fake.

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Speaker 2: News, news, beat tape and rush shop.

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Speaker 10: You talk TAKEE balloon booking to you about Steve. It's

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Speaker 6: You can do anything you set your minds to you guys,

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Speaker 5: You know, that's it was that a new touch at

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Speaker 6: No, it's just everyone always talks over it, so it's

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Speaker 4: Little slim shady mix.

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Speaker 2: Fake news is where I read a series of headlines

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Speaker 3: Can't wait? Bring it on all ready for this? Ben

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Speaker 8: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Phil?

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Speaker 5: Would you keep score? Please?

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Speaker 3: Uh? Probably not. I think I'm so simple.

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Speaker 2: I'll keep score.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, Randall, hold on a sec here.

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Speaker 5: No, it's fine.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not your fault at all.

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Speaker 2: No, No, I didn't really think about how complicated it

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Speaker 3: Longer, Randall, Light, I forget.

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Speaker 2: Now it's up.

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Speaker 5: Now I'll do that again.

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Speaker 2: Show them, don't show them. I'll read that headline again

449
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 2: for those of you playing at home, aggressive blank destroyed

450
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:34,719
Speaker 2: after escaping from overturned truck, but one is still on

451
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 2: the loose. Your options are A lions, B elephants, C

452
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 2: monkeys or D wild horses.

453
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 4: All could be aggressive.

454
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a trick.

455
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 2: That was That was tricky for me when I was

456
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 2: coming up with the fake answers as I had to

457
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 2: choose aggressive animals that could be turned. It could be

458
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Speaker 2: in an overturned truck.

459
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Speaker 4: You don't think the word destroyed harmed the animal? Do you?

460
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 2: I do? Actually I do.

461
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 4: I did not hear about that.

462
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 5: That's a clinical term.

463
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 2: A lions, B elephants this weekend, C monkeys or D

464
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 2: wild horses.

465
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 4: Interesting?

466
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 5: What could it be?

467
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 2: Seth's got an answer because Seth keeps up with his

468
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 2: social media headlines People Magazine. I thought, I thought this

469
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 2: might be too obvious because it's been all over has it? Yeah?

470
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:30,640
Speaker 4: Interesting?

471
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 2: Must That shouldn't shape your thinking, Corey, You should just

472
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 2: follow your gut. Is A lions, B elephants, C monkeys

473
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 2: or D wild horses.

474
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 4: Well, golly, you can't hide an elephant. This here we go, Carolina. No, okay,

475
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 4: definitely haven't heard about it.

476
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,919
Speaker 2: Let's go all right, flip over your boards, gentlemen, we

477
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 2: both say c monkeys. Darn it, you both got it correct.

478
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,679
Speaker 7: I saw gripping grin. I'm gonna yeah, so like some

479
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 7: hunters got after him. I guess you're unless that was

480
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 7: fake news. But I saw on the webs that I

481
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 7: don't know, some hunter was sitting in a deer stand

482
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 7: and one came by.

483
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,360
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know who got the monkeys,

484
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 2: but I can tell you that a truck carrying twenty

485
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 2: one Recis monkeys from Tulane University to a testing facility

486
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 2: in Florida overturned just on Tuesday, setting the primates loose.

487
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 2: The Jasper County Sheriff's Department posted on Facebook that quote,

488
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,679
Speaker 2: the monkeys are approximately forty pounds, aggressive to humans, and

489
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 2: carry hepatitis, C, herpes, and COVID. Howat, in a separate

490
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 2: statement to Lane University, said the monkeys had not been

491
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 2: exposed to any of these Sure good people contacted the

492
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Speaker 2: Jasper County Sheriff's Department, who had no additional comment about

493
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 2: the discrepancy and information and referred to follow their social

494
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 2: media pages for updates on the case. So if a

495
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 2: deer hunter got one of those monkeys, I'm not sure.

496
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 2: I assumed it was the Sheriff's department, But.

497
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Speaker 4: Boy, stay tuned for on the missing monkey.

498
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 2: Real exciting start to our game. We're tied at one

499
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 2: to one recess monkey. Our second headline comes to us

500
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Speaker 2: from the old Gray Lady the New York Times. Beware

501
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 2: of swiper a blank at Grand Teton Park with a

502
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 2: penchant for footwear? Yep, is it a a black bear,

503
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 2: be a marmot, see a fox, or be a seasonal employee? Again,

504
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 2: the headline reads, beware of swiper a blank at Grand

505
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 2: Teton Park with a penchant for footwear. And your options

506
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 2: once again are a black bear, a marmot.

507
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 3: Do you know this one?

508
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 5: A fox or a seasonal employee.

509
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 4: All options would potentially snag a footwear piece and take

510
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 4: it away back to their whole seasonal employee would be

511
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 4: living in a hole somewhere, for sure.

512
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 5: It would be weird.

513
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 2: Though if his seasonal employee got a nickname from a newspaper, well,

514
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess they could you know it's

515
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 2: like the Boston Strangler. M Seth's got an answer, Seth,

516
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 2: are you confident Corey's got an answer?

517
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 3: Pretty good? I narrowed it down to two.

518
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 5: I think all right based on just your gut yep. Perfect.

519
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 5: That's how we like to play around here.

520
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 2: Flip those boards over, boys, let me see him. Seth says, see,

521
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,360
Speaker 2: oh a fox, Cory says.

522
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:38,479
Speaker 5: Be a marmot. We have a correct answer in the room.

523
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 5: It's a fox. WHOA I've been gut shot. Oh look

524
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,719
Speaker 5: at that. Look at that photo there there is.

525
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 2: The National Park Service announced on a poster wanted for

526
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 2: grand theft footwear with an illustration of a fox gripping

527
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 2: a sneaker in its teeth, crimes stealing left shoes, parentheses

528
00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 2: they taste better flip flops, and camper's pride. This whimsical

529
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 2: wanted poster, which branded the fox, the sneaker Snatcher, the

530
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 2: midnight mismatcher, and swiper. The fox, was part of the

531
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 2: park's initial effort to warn campers that Parkerer's shoes had

532
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 2: been vanishing, but last week, unfortunately, the tally of purloined

533
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 2: footwear rose to thirty two because visitors were intentionally leaving

534
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 2: out their footwear as offerings to the Fox, just in

535
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 2: case he comes by.

536
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 3: I wonder what he's doing with him.

537
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

538
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 5: I don't know shoes, Yeah, that'd be interesting to see.

539
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 2: I hope we get some more information on Swiper Fox

540
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 2: for a future episode of fake News, because I don't

541
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 2: know anything. So now it seems we have a one

542
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 2: to two deficit here. Seth is in the lead, Corey

543
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 2: is losing by one point correct, and there is one

544
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 2: headline left to go. Phil, Let's give it to him.

545
00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 2: A fisherman went digging for worms. Instead, he found thirteen

546
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 2: pounds of blank? Is it Civil war cannonballs, marijuana, ancient

547
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 2: treasure or dinosaur teeth?

548
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 9: Interesting?

549
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 5: Where was he that's going to give me?

550
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: A fisherman went digging for worms? He found thirteen pounds

551
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 2: of blank? Is it Civil war cannonballs, marijuana, ancient treasure

552
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 2: or dinosaur teeth.

553
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 4: I wasn't around back in the Civil War, but I

554
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,479
Speaker 4: feel like a cannon ball would have weighed about thirteen pounds.

555
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 2: You know, I had I had problems when I was

556
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 2: coming up with my fake answers. I had problems thinking

557
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 2: of things that would be in the ground that you'd

558
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 2: measure in poundage.

559
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 4: Okay, so it's not a.

560
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 2: No.

561
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 7: No.

562
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,239
Speaker 2: It could be well, of course, because if they were

563
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 2: different sized cannonballs, you wouldn't say a small one in

564
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 2: a medium one.

565
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 4: Sure chunks of balls pounds.

566
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 6: The chat is reprimanding all of you for not having

567
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 6: any reference to Dora the explore or when it comes

568
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 6: to Swiper the fox steals things, darn.

569
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 5: Guilty as guilty as charged.

570
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 3: I think he wears a little zoro mask.

571
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 5: Not a not a not a door guy.

572
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 6: It's a little little past your time, but it it helps.

573
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 5: Seth's got an answer, Corey's got an answer.

574
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 3: The a tie breaker.

575
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 2: They've got different answers. No, I'm thinking of one as

576
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 2: I do this. Uh you ready, Corey?

577
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 5: Show me what you got big boys?

578
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 3: Cannonball?

579
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 2: Corey says b weed. Seth says, A cannonballs. The correct

580
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 2: answer is c ancient treasure. A Swedish fisherman, searching for

581
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 2: gooey juicy worms to use his bait near his summer

582
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: home near Stockholm instead struck something far more solid, a

583
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 2: copper cauldron brimming with coins and jewelry. In total, defined

584
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 2: comprised thirteen pounds of Early Middle Ages silver.

585
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 3: Are we good, Phil, Yeah, don't worry about the TV.

586
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 5: This is quote.

587
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 2: This is probably one of the largest silver treasures from

588
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 2: the Early Middle Ages that has been found in Sweden,

589
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 2: says Sophia Anderson, the antiquarian at the Stockholm County Administrative Board.

590
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 2: She says this in a translated statement, so I don't

591
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 2: know the original Swedish. I assume that they translated her accurately.

592
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 3: Quote.

593
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 5: We do not yet know how.

594
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 3: Excuse me, God, just take a breath, Randall.

595
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 2: We do not yet know exactly how many coins there are,

596
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 2: but I believe it could be upboard of twenty thousand. Wow,

597
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 2: a veritable fortune in Middle Aged treasure.

598
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 3: Twenty thousand coins are twenty thousand dollars worth of coins?

599
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 5: Twenty thousand coins.

600
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 2: I don't know if we have the exchange rate pinned down.

601
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 3: That'd be interesting to know.

602
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 2: But with that final question, Seth is the winner of

603
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 2: fake News by a score of two to one.

604
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 5: Thanks for playing. I enjoyed this good game.

605
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 3: That was great.

606
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 2: Back to our regularly scheduled programming and that brings us

607
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 2: to listener feedback. Phil, what does the chat have to say?

608
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 2: Sorry if I'm rushing you.

609
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 6: No, it's no, it's fine, it's moving on. It's very

610
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 6: efficient and I appreciate that.

611
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's I mean, that's the vibe we're.

612
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 6: Going When this show is run professionally, it kind of

613
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 6: catches me off.

614
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 2: Guard, you know, that's the vibe I'm going for here.

615
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 6: Uh, Mogor asks when will Daylight Saving Time end in Montana?

616
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 3: This year?

617
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 6: Ours just ended this past Sunday. I didn't know that

618
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 6: it's on different schedules around the world, but Mogor, I

619
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 6: believe is OURS is next week, next Tuesday.

620
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 4: Saturday night day ends.

621
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, usually it's a week.

622
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 3: Oh it's like a Sunday Saturday night into Sunday.

623
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 5: Yes, right, okay, it's coming up soon.

624
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 3: I think this is going to shift our shift.

625
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 5: Our hunting hours around a little bit.

626
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 2: Here.

627
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 4: Sunset will be around five thirty.

628
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 2: Now sunset a week from Thursday. Sunset is at four

629
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 2: thirty really a week from today, yeah, this time next week,

630
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 2: sunset will be.

631
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 3: At four thirty yep, and barely light heired.

632
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so we're gonna have old some earlier mornings,

633
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: but also earlier evenings back at the tent.

634
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 4: True try I enjoy long nights.

635
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 5: Interesting question more thank you.

636
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, we had a legitimate question about rifle calbers and

637
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 6: the chap At spencer. New Heart has just been fielding those.

638
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 3: Is that the bullet question? Yeah? Yeah, I like that one.

639
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 6: Uh well, there there is another bull asking if you

640
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 6: guys are shooting copper Oh yeah, that's the one I said, Okay, no, yeah, there.

641
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 3: Was one about whitetail caliber. Gotcha, Yeah, I.

642
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 7: Believe old Sethi is I'm shooting the all copper hornety

643
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 7: c X bullet out of my seven PRC.

644
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 3: That's what I shot that bull with.

645
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 2: Hmm, beautiful. I am not same.

646
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 6: Lead Seth is from Garrett. Why does Kelsey never paint

647
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 6: a picture? Paint pictures of Wiley? I don't give an

648
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 6: f about cowboys? Can I pet that dog?

649
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 4: Can I pet that out?

650
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 3: Well, if you are willing to spend some money, she

651
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 3: will do that. Yeah. I don't think get that commission.

652
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 5: I don't think that brush moves for free.

653
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 3: The cowboys pay the bills.

654
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 4: Wiley is very photogenic.

655
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, beautiful animal. What else you got here for?

656
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 6: Well, here's another caliber question. Justin is asking does what

657
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 6: if you shoot a sig cross in three hundred wind

658
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 6: bag and if so, do you like it? I have

659
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 6: a Montana bear in Alaska. You know it's a mushy sentence,

660
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 6: but he's got some hunts and he wants to know

661
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 6: if that's a good thing to go with.

662
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 4: Corey, Yeah, I sure do. It's the sig cross saw

663
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 4: tooth and a three hundred wind mag.

664
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 3: Love it.

665
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 4: I will say, I don't like carrying around the mountains,

666
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 4: but when it's time to shoot something, it's a dream.

667
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 2: So well, yeah, I mean it's worth it. There's no

668
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 2: free lunch, true. I have a sig crossed the original magnum,

669
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 2: not the saw tooth and three hundred wind mag and

670
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Speaker 2: uh yeah my uh my wife killed a buffalo with it,

671
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Speaker 2: shooting a copper bullet. So just to tie those two

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Speaker 2: questions together, was that for some hosting, good job, ran, Yeah,

673
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Speaker 2: three hundred wind mag can't go wrong unless unless your

674
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Speaker 2: recoil shy.

675
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Speaker 5: Then you get a big break YEP or can or.

676
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Speaker 4: A meat eater suppressor.

677
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Speaker 6: Here's another plug for you. This question is from Dill Bean.

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Speaker 6: Any thoughts on the one hundred mile buffer zone bill

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Speaker 6: for quote border security and SNR unquote. We just released

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Speaker 6: a bonus flap this morning Steve talks to one of

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Speaker 6: his buddies about this whole topic. You can check that

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Speaker 6: out about what it's got Steve's thoughts in there. The

683
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 6: thing Steve said that I think kind of sums the

684
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Speaker 6: whole thing up is if you have a group of

685
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Speaker 6: people that are trying to do something very unpopular, unsuccessfully

686
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Speaker 6: for decades, and then they try to frame actually it's

687
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Speaker 6: about border security. Yeah right, and then they introduce a bill.

688
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Speaker 6: It smells fishy.

689
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Speaker 2: So you know, I don't know enough about it to

690
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Speaker 2: speak to it knowledgeably.

691
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Speaker 3: Check out the podcast.

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Speaker 5: Check out the podcast.

693
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Speaker 4: Yeah, just stay out of the wilderness.

694
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Speaker 2: All I have to say.

695
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Speaker 6: Ryan asks Randy, which I guess is something people call

696
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 6: you when, and what was your most recent cased meat meal?

697
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 2: Great question? Great question.

698
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Speaker 4: Couldn't have been that long ago.

699
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 2: No, No, it wasn't Saturday.

700
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Speaker 3: Right.

701
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Speaker 4: Didn't you say something about a corn dog?

702
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Speaker 2: No, that was the bull that I'm going to talk about. Gosh,

703
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 2: that's a good question. Uh, I know I've been eating

704
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 2: bratwurst at home regularly.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, Ryan, I don't have a good answer for you.

707
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Speaker 2: It wasn't that long ago.

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Speaker 3: A couple of weeks got to be with you yea,

709
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Speaker 3: within the last couple.

710
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Speaker 5: Within two weeks, within two weeks for sure.

711
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Speaker 4: Well, that could be multiple questions. Case is in like

712
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 4: a sausage, or case is in like the hot case

713
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Speaker 4: from a gas station.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it hasn't been that long since since I've tickled

715
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Speaker 2: the since I've tickled the hot case at town pump.

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Speaker 4: That's where my head was.

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Speaker 3: At tickled the hot case at town pump.

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Speaker 10: Ye.

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Speaker 3: I think I read some online erotica, same.

720
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Speaker 2: Title, Phil, Please, you're live on air.

721
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Speaker 3: I know we got kids.

722
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Speaker 5: What else you got, Phil.

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Speaker 3: Steve Q.

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Speaker 6: This is me of having a nun fetish in next

725
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Speaker 6: week's episode of The Mediator podcast. So that's not really

726
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Speaker 6: everything's out the window now, Dune folks. Yeah, you do

727
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Speaker 6: one more here? Yeah, I don't. Let's see what's Yeah,

728
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 6: here's one for all of you.

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Speaker 3: Phil. You're playing Destiny Rising.

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Speaker 6: No, I I I this is I don't know if

731
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Speaker 6: I've said this before. I have played thousands, literal thousands

732
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 6: of hours of Destiny two, and much like my game Fuel,

733
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Speaker 6: I had to quit that cold turkey. I do not

734
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Speaker 6: play Destiny anymore. Destiny Rising, okay, Randall. Destiny Rising is

735
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Speaker 6: the new mobile Destiny game I will not touch it.

736
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Speaker 6: I have never touched it. Take that to the bank

737
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Speaker 6: for all of you who care, gosh, which is as

738
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Speaker 6: or King.

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Speaker 2: That's a fantastic listener feedback section. Thanks for wrapping up, Phil,

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Speaker 2: Keep question coming, Gang, keep them coming. Would love, would

741
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Speaker 2: love some more feedback. We're going to do an extended

742
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Speaker 2: feedback at the end of this episode.

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Speaker 5: My co host just learned.

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Speaker 3: Up.

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Speaker 2: Next, we're gonna speak with Lauren Dolcater, who submitted one

746
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Speaker 2: of the most hair raising customer service emails in First

747
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Speaker 2: Light's history after a tree limb impaled her leg. Lauren,

748
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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. Hello, thank you for joining us.

749
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Speaker 2: So as I understand it, you needed a replacement set

750
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Speaker 2: of kiln bass layers after a recent hunt in Wyoming.

751
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 2: What were you hunting and when was this?

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Speaker 8: It was about five weeks ago. We were hunting archery elk.

753
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Speaker 8: It was middle of September, and yeah, we were there

754
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Speaker 8: up near Dubois, Wyoming, hunting elk for about a week and.

755
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Speaker 10: Yeah, it was The week was off to a great start.

756
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Speaker 8: We got into some milk and had a lot of

757
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Speaker 8: we had a close encounter with a moose. It was

758
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Speaker 8: just off to a great start and then Friday, on

759
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Speaker 8: day five, we uh, everything kind of changed.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

761
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Speaker 2: Can you can you describe ut the incident that led

762
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Speaker 2: to your injury here? What happened?

763
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Speaker 10: Uh?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, So we were driving a side by side early morning,

765
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Speaker 8: so it was still dark and we were about forty

766
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Speaker 8: five minutes to an hour that we needed to get

767
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Speaker 8: up a pretty rough road to get where. We had

768
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Speaker 8: watched some elk go into Septimber the night before, so

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Speaker 8: we felt like we had a good chance, but we

770
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Speaker 8: needed to get up there before first light. And we've

771
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Speaker 8: driven up that road many times. But for some reason,

772
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Speaker 8: we were going up and my hunting partner was driving

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Speaker 8: and I was in the passenger seat, and I don't

774
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Speaker 8: remember if there was like something in the road or

775
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 8: just like a really big pothole or something, and he

776
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Speaker 8: kind of tried to miss it and we got too

777
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Speaker 8: close to the edge and there was a we were

778
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Speaker 8: driving through a burn and there was an old lodge

779
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 8: pole tree that was hanging over the edge of the

780
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Speaker 8: road and when we hit it, it came through the

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Speaker 8: side by side door and went into my leg.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 6: I will just say I have I have some pictures

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Speaker 6: that Lauren shared with us. There are not gory, but

785
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Speaker 6: I would say one of them is rather upsetting. At

786
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Speaker 6: least when I saw it, I got like full body chills.

787
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Speaker 6: So I'm gonna pull that up a little bit. If

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Speaker 6: you don't want to see that, look away.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Lauren, can you can you describe what was going

790
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Speaker 2: through your head? Right?

791
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Speaker 5: Has that happened? Did you know right away?

792
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 2: Or did the did the side by side immediately come

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Speaker 2: to a stop? Like what was what was the first

794
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 2: so the first thing that happened or the next thing

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Speaker 2: that happened.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, the side by side came to a complete stop,

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Speaker 8: and me and my partner kind of just looked at

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Speaker 8: each other and I felt a pressure against my leg.

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Speaker 10: I didn't really feel.

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Speaker 8: Any sharp pain or anything, so immediately I just thought

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Speaker 8: that the side by side door kind of like pinned

802
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Speaker 8: me and my leg was stuck. And then I reached

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Speaker 8: down because he was starting to put it in reverse,

804
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Speaker 8: and I just kind of had a weird feeling and

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Speaker 8: I reached down and I could feel something going into

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Speaker 8: my leg. So I told him to stop, and I

807
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Speaker 8: was like, I think something's in my leg and he's like,

808
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Speaker 8: what do you mean? And so I turned on my

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00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 8: headlamp and looked down and I could see that that

810
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Speaker 8: tree was in my leg.

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Speaker 2: Out.

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Speaker 5: How did your partner respond?

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Speaker 3: Was it just the two of you?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it was just the two of us, he responded

815
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Speaker 8: pretty well. Obviously we were both shocked. He put it

816
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Speaker 8: in the park, and we both work in the medical field.

817
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 10: So I feel like that kind of helped us a

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Speaker 10: little bit.

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Speaker 8: Obviously, if you're getting paled by something, the last thing

820
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 8: you want to do is pull it out, right, So I.

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Speaker 10: Told him to put it in park and told him

822
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Speaker 10: to come.

823
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Speaker 8: Around the side of the side by side so we

824
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Speaker 8: could see if I was still attached to the tree

825
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Speaker 8: or if the branch had broke, which luckily it had,

826
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Speaker 8: that would have been a whole another orga trying to

827
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Speaker 8: get off of that. But yeah, just from the crash,

828
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Speaker 8: the fender flare of the side by side had enough

829
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 8: pressure that it broke the branch or end of the

830
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Speaker 8: tree actually, but there was about probably about three feet

831
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Speaker 8: of it hanging off from my leg, and we were

832
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Speaker 8: able to get the side by side door.

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00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 10: Open and kind of.

834
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Speaker 3: She'll be right back.

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Speaker 8: We were able to get the side by side open

836
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Speaker 8: and situate the piece of wood into the side by

837
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Speaker 8: side with me, and I kind of just had to

838
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 8: almost stand up with my good leg and hold onto

839
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 8: the ceiling of the side by side and keep my

840
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 8: legs straight for a twenty minute ride back down the mountain.

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00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 2: Oh my god. And then what what It's obviously at

842
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 2: some point you got medical attention from first responders.

843
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 5: What was that like?

844
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 2: Did you drive to the hospital or did they come

845
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 2: out to pick you up or what did that look like?

846
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 10: So I keep a garment in reach for obviously things

847
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 10: like this.

848
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 8: But I knew because we've hunted there for a few years,

849
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Speaker 8: we knew that we were only about twenty minutes from

850
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 8: cell service and we needed to get down the mountain anyways.

851
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 8: And where we had cell service, we knew an ambulance

852
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 8: could get there and there'd be enough room for a

853
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 8: helicopter to land. So we got down there, called nine

854
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 8: one one, and they sent an ambulance that was stationed

855
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 8: down in Doboys, which was only about fifteen minutes from

856
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 8: where we were. So they sent an ambulance up and

857
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 8: got Ivy started and helped me out with meds and

858
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 8: trying to figure out if we were able to drive

859
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 8: to a hospital because we're about an hour and a

860
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 8: half from the nearest hospital.

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Speaker 5: And at this point I'm sure the pain had set in.

862
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, definitely, it was more so like cramping pain, like

863
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 8: my muscles were obviously trying to reject whatever was.

864
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Speaker 10: In my leg.

865
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 8: Yeah, and I think with enough adrenaline nothing was sharp pain.

866
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 8: But definitely was scared of what kind of outcomes my head.

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Speaker 10: But yeah, So we were on.

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00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 8: The scene for probably about an hour and then they

869
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Speaker 8: decided they wanted to fly me to a trauma center

870
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 8: because we were over four hour drive from the nearest

871
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 8: trauma center, and so yeah, they landed a helicopter and

872
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 8: flew me to Idaho Falls.

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00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 9: Wow.

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Speaker 2: What after you got to the hospital? What were the

875
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 2: extent of your injuries? And how are you doing today.

876
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 8: I got extremely lucky with the path that the tree

877
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 8: went in. It missed bone and arteries and everything that's

878
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 8: super important. It did get my glute muscle a little

879
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,439
Speaker 8: bit because it went about six inches into my leg,

880
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 8: But yeah, I got there. They did some cts really quick,

881
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 8: make sure that I didn't hit any arteries that would

882
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 8: cause me to bleed out or anything like that, and

883
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 8: I was in surgery within a half hour and they

884
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 8: just went in and took it out and cleaned everything.

885
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 8: The biggest worry was infection. So the surgeon did really

886
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 8: good and got it all cleaned out. And yeah, I'm

887
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 8: really lucky. I was walking within two hours of surgery.

888
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 2: That'sable.

889
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 8: And yeah, I was actually able to go on a

890
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 8: hunt last week that.

891
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you get did you get your replacement base

892
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 2: layers yet? From first light, I hope the answer is yes,

893
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 2: otherwise this can be tremendously embarrassing.

894
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 10: They they have.

895
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 8: Sent them, they're on their way. Uh, it's more on

896
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 8: my end. I'm having little issues with a change of

897
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 8: address situation. Oh sure, customer service was great and they

898
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 8: sent them out right away.

899
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 10: And yeah, it's turned into quite the story.

900
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's gonna be a story. That's gonna be a

901
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 2: hunting camp story for the Ages.

902
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 10: Yeah, luckily everything turned out good.

903
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm glad.

904
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,919
Speaker 2: I'm glad to hear that you got back out there.

905
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 2: That was my next question is what the rest of

906
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 2: your season looks like. So I'm glad to hear that

907
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 2: you got back out there and that you weren't more

908
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 2: seriously injured by this. It's very lucky that you guys

909
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 2: have the medical training that you do, because I think

910
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 2: had some other folks been in that same situation, cooler's

911
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 2: heads would not have prevailed.

912
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm very thankful for that background.

913
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 2: Lauren, Thanks for thanks for sharing your story with us.

914
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 2: Good luck out there this fall. And yeah, incredible story

915
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 2: and glad you're okay, And please reach out should anything

916
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: like this happen again fingers crossed it doesn't, but please

917
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 2: please reach out and and yeah, it's great to chat

918
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 2: with you.

919
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 10: Sounds great. Thank you guys for having me on.

920
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 2: Thanks Lauren, good luck.

921
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 3: Oh brutal.

922
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm still tense. My body's tense.

923
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 3: Ye.

924
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 2: I knew a friend of my sorry, a mother of

925
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 2: one of my friends growing up, had a similar deal

926
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 2: riding a quad through the woods and had a stick

927
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 2: right basically ride up the side of her knee and enter.

928
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,720
Speaker 4: Her leg after getting flipped up from a tire.

929
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's uh g, that's super gnarly.

930
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 4: I think we meant to do this, but it's kind

931
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 4: of an ironic show. With Halloween tomorrow, we got a

932
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 4: lot of gore and murder and you.

933
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 2: Know, yeah Halloween esque that we did not think about that,

934
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 2: but man, those pictures are happy. Halloween make me shaky.

935
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 3: Do you need a sip of water? Are you good?

936
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 3: You need a second?

937
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 8: No?

938
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 2: Okay, No, I'm good, I'm good. It's the responsibility of

939
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 2: the host to keep this thing moving. But I am

940
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 2: affected by that story, and I'm really glad that they

941
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 2: sent out those replacement based layers. I figured I could

942
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 2: be setting us up for tremendous embarrassment as a company,

943
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 2: and I was gonna offer to send them myself. Go

944
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 2: down to the store and you know, I use the

945
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 2: employee discount and all that. But good on first light.

946
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 4: Hey, great customer service.

947
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 5: Hard pivot.

948
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 2: Going to try to regain my composure as we get

949
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 2: into another Throwback Thursday, and there's no musical.

950
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 3: There is stream Yards having some issues to they We

951
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 3: got to nineteen seventy four.

952
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 8: Roll back.

953
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 3: I can't believe it.

954
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 10: Did I mentioned Steven Ronnie our old ash.

955
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 5: For today's Throwback Thursday. We've got a real treat for you, folks.

956
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:55,439
Speaker 2: We each brought in our first bull elk and we're

957
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 2: going to share those stories. Maybe we should go and

958
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 2: order of trophy size. Oh, because I didn't realize we

959
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 2: were bringing our first six points.

960
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 6: But seth for those of you who weren't in this

961
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 6: room before the show started. This is all Randall has

962
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 6: been able to talk about for the last hour.

963
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought we were bringing in raghorns. You, I

964
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 5: can't help things. Leaning up against the wall to my armpit.

965
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 3: Says like, I can't help it.

966
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,720
Speaker 5: My first bulls great bull.

967
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 2: No, it's a good bull. It's a great first bull.

968
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 2: But I didn't realize that we were going to do

969
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 2: this thing. So Seth, why don't you tell the story

970
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 2: of your first bullet.

971
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 3: It's not a huge six point, No it's not. It's

972
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 3: just the biggest barely.

973
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 5: It's barely a six point just so everybody was.

974
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 7: The camera wide enough to get this, just just barely, Seth,

975
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 7: this is this is my first Yeah, let me up

976
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 7: to the mill.

977
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,240
Speaker 3: Thank you. This is my first bull that I ever killed.

978
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 7: And it just so happened that this was back in

979
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 7: twenty sixteen, my first hunting season in Montana. How old

980
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 7: were you, I don't know, twenty six, twenty five.

981
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 5: Five again young buck.

982
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 7: But yeah, so I had just recently become a resident

983
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 7: in twenty sixteen. I went to FWP headquarters in Helenum

984
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 7: and picked up my tags, and then the next day

985
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 7: I went up to a hunting spot that I had

986
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 7: been scouting.

987
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 5: Wait, this was literally the day after you bought your tag.

988
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, amazing, and was deer hunting. I was deer hunting

989
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 7: the spot that I had been been looking at some

990
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 7: some big deer at and uh, you know, I just

991
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 7: happened to come across this guy that was bedded in

992
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 7: some willows way way back in there.

993
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 3: I was with good buddy Rick Hutton.

994
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 5: Shout out Rick, Rick.

995
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 3: So yeah, I ended up shooting this bull at last light.

996
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 7: And I, you know, very new to elk hunting at

997
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 7: this point in my life, and very new to Western

998
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 7: hunting in general, and didn't really.

999
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 3: Totally know what I was doing. So we gutted this thing.

1000
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 3: And we were six miles from the.

1001
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 7: Truck, So instead of cutting it up that night in

1002
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 7: the dark, we just gutted it and got the guts

1003
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 7: away from it because we were in some grizz country,

1004
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 7: thick thick griz country. In fact, every time we pretty

1005
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 7: much scouted that area we ran into grizzlies. But yeah,

1006
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 7: I gutted this thing, rolled the guts down the hill

1007
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 7: quite a ways away from it, and we left to

1008
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 7: come back in the morning to cut it up, which

1009
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 7: you know, in hindsight, I probably would have just stayed

1010
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 7: there and cut the thing up.

1011
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, but just not shot at six miles deep.

1012
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 3: Yeah that too.

1013
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 7: But that night, so we started hiking back to the truck,

1014
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 7: and it was well after dark, and the wind picked

1015
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 7: up and there was like a cold front coming in

1016
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 7: that night, and so you know, Rick and I we

1017
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 7: were hustling to get out of there. We kind of

1018
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 7: stripped down to our bass layers, you know, so we

1019
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 7: weren't getting all sweaty. And got back to the truck

1020
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 7: and Rick was acting real weird. I couldn't figure out

1021
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 7: what was going on with him. He could like barely talk.

1022
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 7: He was kind of drooling a little bit, saying he

1023
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 7: was real hot. Well, you know, later we figured out

1024
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 7: that Rick had gotten hypothermia walking.

1025
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 4: Out of there dangerous.

1026
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 5: So yeah, that was that was my first experience, quite

1027
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 5: an adventure.

1028
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 7: With hypothermia, like seeing that for the first time, and

1029
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 7: you know, also my first experience killing a six point

1030
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 7: elk beautiful.

1031
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:42,919
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's the story of this guy.

1032
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 5: Thank you, Seth.

1033
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, don't you think we should have started from the

1034
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 6: smallest to the largest. I think that would have been

1035
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 6: like a more kind of satisfying progression.

1036
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't think about that.

1037
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 3: That's fine.

1038
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 4: First balls, they're all the same size and memory.

1039
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,919
Speaker 5: This time next year when we do this again, well

1040
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 5: do it that way.

1041
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,760
Speaker 4: So let's see if we're going in order here.

1042
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:05,479
Speaker 2: I think years bigger than mine?

1043
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 4: Is it?

1044
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 2: No?

1045
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 5: Oh, you want me to go, I'll go, I'll go,

1046
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 5: I'll go.

1047
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm the smallest.

1048
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 2: Please let me go.

1049
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 4: Let me go, Randon, why don't you go?

1050
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 2: All right?

1051
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 3: It might be close, it's gonna be they're really sick.

1052
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 3: Your points are longer.

1053
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 4: Hey, thanks?

1054
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 5: What if my head set back on? This is a

1055
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:24,439
Speaker 5: weird way to hold a bowl.

1056
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 4: Very well done, European mounts, I will say.

1057
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is my first bull. It's not going for

1058
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 2: the listening audience. I'm having trouble fitting it in the

1059
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 2: frame with me, not because it's large, but because I

1060
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 2: don't have good sense of my spatial awareness. So this,

1061
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 2: this bowl I killed in the fall of twenty eighteen,

1062
00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 2: I believe twenty eighteen, twenty seventeen. It was the day

1063
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:08,760
Speaker 2: after Thanksgiving, and my brother in law was in town

1064
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 2: from Seattle, and he's very interested in hunting, and he's

1065
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 2: watch his metater and.

1066
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 5: Never been out hunting.

1067
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 2: And I had a white tail b tag for a

1068
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 2: unit west of Missoula, and we thought, well, why don't

1069
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 2: we take Jason out in the morning and shoot a

1070
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 2: white tail dough and show him what hunting's all about,

1071
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 2: you know.

1072
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 5: And so we drive in.

1073
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 2: There and it's basically like a forest service road and

1074
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 2: we'd hike down to the river and there's just some

1075
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 2: openings and see a lot of deer in there. And

1076
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 2: we passed a truck on the way in, because it's

1077
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 2: the day after Thanksgiving. We passed a truck that's got

1078
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 2: like eight dudes in it, you know, from ten years

1079
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 2: old to eighty years old, and they're like three hundred

1080
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 2: yards from where we're parking. We're like, all right, I

1081
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 2: guess you know, we'll get this side. We start walking

1082
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 2: from the truck, I see a white tailed dough.

1083
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 5: Phil cue the picture. Oh absolutely sorry, Sorry God, I

1084
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 5: did this again to you?

1085
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 3: Oh no, You're fine. Is this is on me? Randall.

1086
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 3: I'm the engineer back here. I should be prepared for everything.

1087
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:18,359
Speaker 2: So Sydney. Sydney started to take a picture. I'm about

1088
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 2: I'm setting up to shoot this white tailed dough and

1089
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 2: next photo.

1090
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 3: Oh I believe that was the next photo.

1091
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you did it right, I just it's my

1092
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 2: mistake again.

1093
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 3: A big dough down.

1094
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1095
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 2: So I'm setting up to shoot this dough and it

1096
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 2: wanders behind a little like finger ridge that's you know,

1097
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 2: like thirty feet tall, just like a little finger going

1098
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 2: down to the to the river bottom. And so I said, oh, perfect,

1099
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 2: let's drop down there. We'll walk up that finger and

1100
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 2: she'll walk up the other side, because she was just

1101
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 2: kind of feeding up. And so we start walking up

1102
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 2: this finger and another dough squorts past, and I think

1103
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 2: to myself, oh, I should every now and then check

1104
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 2: over my right shoulder instead of just locking in on

1105
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 2: the left side.

1106
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:04,879
Speaker 5: We're expecting this dough.

1107
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 2: I'm like, I should check over my right shoulder just

1108
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 2: to make sure nothing's over there. And we get a

1109
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 2: little ways up and I look over my right shoulder

1110
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 2: and I see this big tan body and I'm thinking, oh,

1111
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 2: that's that looks like the color of an elk's body.

1112
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 2: And then I look again and I'm like, oh, that

1113
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 2: looks like the color of an elk's neck. And then

1114
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:29,839
Speaker 2: I realized there's antlers and this thing is bedded broadside

1115
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 2: to me with just its face behind a tree, like

1116
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 2: the tree was literally only covering its eye so it

1117
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 2: didn't see us. It's probably at like fifty yards.

1118
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 4: Wow, that's the little luck that it takes to oh man,

1119
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 4: that you stopped, you know, and see.

1120
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 2: And so Sydney, Sydney and Jason are standing next to

1121
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,439
Speaker 2: me and they're looking to the left and I hear

1122
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 2: one of them.

1123
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 5: Go, oh, there's the dough and I just go shut them.

1124
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 2: You know, and uh. And they have no idea what's happening.

1125
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 2: And then I start shooting and I shoot this thing.

1126
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,280
Speaker 2: It stands up, two other bulls run off. I shoot

1127
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 2: it again and it flips over. That shot. Well, well,

1128
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:11,879
Speaker 2: so Phil, go back, go back, go back, go back,

1129
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 2: go back, go back.

1130
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 5: Okay, next slide.

1131
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 2: So Sydney's like, Sydney's like, oh my god, Randall just

1132
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 2: shot his first bull and like, I'm standing here. I

1133
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 2: just watched the whole thing. And so she started taking

1134
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 2: photos of me, like walking down to it. And you'll

1135
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 2: see in this photo that it's lying It's on a

1136
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 2: steep slope, its head is kind of tucked under it,

1137
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 2: and it's lying there. And we walk down to it.

1138
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 2: And then you'll see in the next photo, all of

1139
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 2: a sudden it's getting up. And so this thing, as

1140
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 2: I approached it, it started like donkey kicking, and like

1141
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 2: I said, it's head was wrapped under it. So all

1142
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 2: of a sudden it flips itself up and over like

1143
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 2: rodeo clown. I am ten feet away from it, and

1144
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 2: it starts running away, and I'm thinking, it's going to

1145
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 2: run to this truck with these other dudes. And I'm

1146
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 2: just thinking, my first bull is going to be shot

1147
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 2: by an entire extended clan and they're gonna have a

1148
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 2: great Thanksgiving Day and I'm gonna have the bitterest Thanksgiving

1149
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 2: weekend of all time. So then I start shooting it again.

1150
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 2: So Phil, if you'll proceed, So we have this whole

1151
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 2: sequence of photos of it standing up again.

1152
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 3: You shoulder your rifle.

1153
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 2: You see see rifles shouldered, and I'm like twenty yards

1154
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 2: away from it.

1155
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 3: Next one, you look closer than that.

1156
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 5: Next one, Oh, I mean I was.

1157
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 2: I was afraid it was gonna kick me when it

1158
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 2: initially started freaking out. Next one, he's off. Next one

1159
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 2: finally go after like on my last the last round

1160
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 2: in the magazine, I mean, he ran to the bottom

1161
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 2: of hill and just stood there and I shot him

1162
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 2: again and finally tipped over and walked down there and

1163
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 2: pretty shocked by the whole thing.

1164
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 5: This is like at nine o'clock. You can see my

1165
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 5: face here.

1166
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 2: We're in a lot of sick in that photo.

1167
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 5: But you'll you will see an f HF bino harness

1168
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 5: in a.

1169
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 2: First light blaze orange watching this. It's fine, No, it's fine.

1170
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 2: It shouldn't be a big deal now.

1171
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 5: And then the next photo that's me and Sydney.

1172
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,439
Speaker 2: It was a very cool, cool thing to have her

1173
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 2: there for it. And then uh, next photo, we have

1174
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 2: a little family, a little family pack out. And then

1175
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 2: we went to the old U Thomas Marbar in Missoula,

1176
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 2: watched some some football that's great, had a few cold ones.

1177
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 4: Lovely you're making glue with those hooks or.

1178
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know that's that was a mistake.

1179
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 2: Like I said, ladies and gentlemen, we're talking.

1180
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 5: Jannis Ptelis just walked into the studio. Jannis ptell Us.

1181
00:59:58,040 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 5: Tell the folks how you're doing.

1182
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: I'm pretty hungry, Randa, we have a lunch date right now.

1183
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 2: Oh my god, we're running over on time. It is,

1184
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 2: so you're literally interrupted the live show to tell us

1185
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 2: that you want to go eat lunch. Now. Yeah, well,

1186
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 2: we've got one story left here and it's Corey Culkins.

1187
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 5: We're telling the story of our first bull, elk Oh.

1188
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:22,439
Speaker 3: I'm here to listen, right, Here's here's my first ball.

1189
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 5: I was a dandy fourteen or fifteen dandy.

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01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 4: I can't quite remember exactly what year this was, but

1191
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 4: I think it was a sophomore in high school potentially. Anyway,

1192
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 4: Southern Montana opening day.

1193
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 3: I do remember we.

1194
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 4: Glassed up Elk the night before, which back then opener

1195
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 4: was on a Sunday. Anybody miss those days? And so Saturday,

1196
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 4: I remember glassing up or Herd Elk. My dad and

1197
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,919
Speaker 4: I walked up in the dark by trying to get

1198
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 4: you know, ahead of everybody else that we could see

1199
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 4: rolling in with their campers. And we get up on

1200
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 4: this saddle and then looking down below us just see

1201
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 4: headlamps galore coming up towards us, you know. So we're like, okay,

1202
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 4: well we should be in the right spot. This is,

1203
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 4: you know, a few hundred yards away from everybody else. Yeah,

1204
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 4: of course sun comes up elkra Gone. So we're kind

1205
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 4: of bumming. We hike up above the saddle to the

1206
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,959
Speaker 4: top of the hill and lo and behold, here comes

1207
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 4: this lone bowl tongue just dragging as if he got

1208
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 4: bumped by somebody else. I want to say, it's first

1209
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 4: forty five minutes of light.

1210
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 2: And with you.

1211
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 3: He walked right up to me.

1212
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 4: Three hundred excuse me, this was a thirty six I

1213
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 4: want to say, like sixty yards away, dumped him one shot.

1214
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 4: Fantastic and yeah, I was pretty tickled, pretty blown away.

1215
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 4: And as we were packing him out, took multiple trips

1216
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 4: to get him out, just my dad and I, and

1217
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 4: we passed this young gall who had harvested a giant

1218
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 4: six point right by the trailhead. Oh, they've admitted they

1219
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 4: got a late start, you know, and came up after

1220
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 4: first light and everybody he had walked right by this

1221
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 4: stud six point bowl in the dark.

1222
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 5: You've always got it, You've always got a chance.

1223
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, And so we got to see that on the

1224
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 4: way out. But yeah, then if I remember, my dad

1225
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 4: shot a spike later that day, back when you can

1226
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 4: shoot spikes around here.

1227
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 2: Very cool.

1228
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 5: So yeah, thanks for sharing.

1229
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 3: That's a great, great, great day of el coming. Yeah,

1230
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 3: and Seth really quick, since you went through the trouble

1231
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 3: of sending it to me.

1232
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 2: Oh handsome young buck at twenty five years old. He's

1233
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 2: got a full mustache. Still, that's really nice way to go.

1234
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 3: A BHA sticker on his h Yeah.

1235
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 5: On the r you're walking the walk and talking the talk.

1236
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 3: And I was wearing the first Light back then too,

1237
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 3: and wearing.

1238
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 2: Not all of us were doing side work for First

1239
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 2: Light of the FACHEF and getting free stuff all the time.

1240
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 3: No I bought that stuff.

1241
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 4: Okay, I would have been wearing some Walmart special.

1242
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 2: That brings us to the end of today's program. We've

1243
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 2: got a little bit of time for listener feedback.

1244
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 6: I know Ganis is hungry. I will the first question

1245
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 6: I will bring up is her next gun, And it says,

1246
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 6: why is Gianni's not in Wisconsin?

1247
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 3: Oh Capitol? Oh good question.

1248
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 1: That is a great question. My cameras are blowing up.

1249
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 1: Everybody's killing deer in Wisconsin. And I'm not going for

1250
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 1: until a week from Friday. I'm going on the seventh

1251
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna be at the Milwaukee Meeter store on

1252
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 1: the seventh for meet and greet. So if you're anywhere

1253
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 1: near Milwaukee, you've already killed a boxing. You don't need

1254
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 1: to be in the woods on the seventh in the evening.

1255
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 1: Come and see me at the Meat Eater store in Milwaukee. Yeah,

1256
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 1: I'll be hounting on the eighth, Saturday morning.

1257
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 7: In my opinion, Yanni, the eighth is the best day

1258
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 7: out of the year to be in the woods.

1259
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 3: So you'll be there. I'll be there. That's great, Phil,

1260
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 3: What else.

1261
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 2: We got here?

1262
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 3: Spencer asks? What's for lunch?

1263
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 2: What is for lunch?

1264
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 3: Bothman Market in Delhi? Great? Your choice?

1265
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 5: You mean the same place with you yesterday?

1266
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 6: Favorite fantastic Crank says that they shot a buck while

1267
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 6: listening to the podcast.

1268
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 5: Oh that's awesome.

1269
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 3: Way to go.

1270
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 2: Send that in.

1271
01:03:57,640 --> 01:03:59,959
Speaker 5: We'll air it the next time I host.

1272
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 4: How did you manage to do that?

1273
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 2: Actually, maybe we'll even have Crank as a guest Crank

1274
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 2: Email radio at the meat Eater dot com.

1275
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 3: Is that right?

1276
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 5: Is that right?

1277
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 3: PHILM? Yeah, that sounds right. Yeah.

1278
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 2: Let's let's uh, let's let's hear the story of shooting

1279
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 2: a buck.

1280
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 5: Well listening to Meat Eater Radio Live.

1281
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 4: My guess is from the truck, maybe a big old

1282
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 4: deer boy.

1283
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 5: Let's let him tell his story him or her. Oh,

1284
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 5: it's just yeah.

1285
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 6: Mystery Canadian Hunter twenty one. A question for Randall. You

1286
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 6: just said, oh, to be twenty five again. I'm turning

1287
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 6: twenty five in a few months. What should I be

1288
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:31,959
Speaker 6: planning for to make the most out of being twenty five?

1289
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 5: I like to look at that bridge and your profile picture.

1290
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 3: I bet a catfish lives under That's what I was thinking.

1291
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 3: That's the first thing I thought one or two if.

1292
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 5: I was twenty five again. Mmmm, that's a great question.

1293
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 4: Go for a big hike your forty year old celphone?

1294
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, think about think about a place where you'd

1295
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 2: be like, there's nobody forty years old. They're gonna be

1296
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 2: here el hunting And then I'd go.

1297
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 4: There, Yeah, there you go, go do something stupid.

1298
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 2: And I'd just eat it everything.

1299
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 6: Nate says, how early do I start monitoring questions for Chat?

1300
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 6: Can I dump them before the waiting music even starts? Yes,

1301
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 6: you can get them in early.

1302
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 3: I can see him. It makes my job easier.

1303
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 6: Actually, Phil doesn't lose anything. Mo gore our guy. Yesterday

1304
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 6: I watched the Media or Muzzleloader episode. Steve mentioned that

1305
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 6: Seth is really skilled with it. But my question is,

1306
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 6: have randall Er Corey ever had the chance to harvest

1307
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 6: game with a muzzle?

1308
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 4: Nope, No, I'm usually tagged out by then A.

1309
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 6: Let's see Laurie. I don't think there's any bird people

1310
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 6: in this room. But Laurie's asking what your go to

1311
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 6: grouse slayer is.

1312
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 3: Ooh, shotgun. You might be asking for more specifics, but you.

1313
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 4: Know mine's an arrow with a Judo point. Typically in

1314
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 4: archery season chasing elk twelve gage twenty twos are great too, though.

1315
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 5: Twenty twos are great.

1316
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 2: The only grouse I've killed have been with twenty two

1317
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 2: caliber pistols.

1318
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 3: Great well, Joannis is looking at his phone. He looks,

1319
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 3: he looks starved.

1320
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 5: How many more listener questions? One more? Let's do one more?

1321
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 3: One more?

1322
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:06,919
Speaker 6: I really, Aaron says, I recently briand a turkey breast

1323
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 6: for twenty four hours, but it came out too salty.

1324
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 3: How long do y'all Brian, Johnny.

1325
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 1: This is a good question for you. Ah yeah, it

1326
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 1: sounds like that was too long. I believe it in

1327
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 1: the Meat Eater cookbook it's like six to eight. If

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Speaker 1: that happens, you can desalt a Brian turkey breast by

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Speaker 1: just putting it into just plain cold water, and it'll

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Speaker 1: actually suck through osmosis the salt will come back out

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Speaker 1: into the water. But yeah, I guess you could. You

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Speaker 1: could check it by just cutting a little sliver off

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Speaker 1: the turkey breast next time, frying it real quick and

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Speaker 1: eating it and seeing how salty it is.

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Speaker 2: Well, that was the most substantive thing that's been said

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Speaker 2: in the past sixty six minutes, So I think that's

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Speaker 2: a good place to wrap up. Corey Seth as always

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Speaker 2: a true pleasure fill the engineer. Wonderful job will streamline

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Speaker 2: our us this next week, So we hickups folks out there,

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Speaker 2: We thank you for listening and we will see you

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Speaker 2: next week.

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Speaker 3: Happy hunting, Thanks guys, Happy Halloween.