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Speaker 1: especially in the food and beverage industry. Everybody goes to

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Speaker 1: I gotta give a piece of myself to you, because

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Speaker 1: that's what good hospitality is like you let people in.

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Speaker 2: I gotta give a piece of myself to you.

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Speaker 1: And people take these pieces, take these pieces, take these pieces,

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Speaker 3: Everybody.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to another episode of butter Noms Amy Holls, Brandon

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Speaker 4: Butler found the CEO of Butter atl And today we

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Speaker 4: got my guy cam in the building and mister cam

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Speaker 4: Hey holiday bar and many other things.

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Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm good. I'm good.

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Speaker 3: There's been a long time coming.

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Speaker 1: It's been a long time. I feel like we've had

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Speaker 1: this interview informally several times, so now we're just recording it.

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Speaker 3: The drink's help.

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Speaker 1: I'm not.

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Speaker 3: You know, but we can still.

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Speaker 1: I think we can still some stuff I'm excited.

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Speaker 4: Well, for those of the auto know man, Cam owns

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Speaker 4: the amazing Holiday Bar here in Atlanta, as well as

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Speaker 4: some other amazing things he's working on. But Cam, I've

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Speaker 4: been doing a new way to intro my guests. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 4: So I asked chat cheap et does it know who

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Speaker 4: Cameron Burke, the founder of Holiday Bar in Atlanta is,

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Speaker 4: And this is what it said. So you tell me

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Speaker 4: if chat GBT is right about you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we go see.

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Speaker 4: Cam Burke is the founder and guest relations president of

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Speaker 4: the Holiday Bar and Open Air Especially Coffee and Craft

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Speaker 4: Cocktail Bar, located at the Interlock in West Midtown, Atlanta.

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Speaker 4: With over a decade of experience in the hospitality industry,

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Speaker 4: Burke is consistently advanced within various companies, starting from entry

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Speaker 4: level positions. His dedication and expertise have contributed to the

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Speaker 2: That's scary, that's insane.

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Speaker 3: That's what I said. That's that's the chat knows about

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Speaker 3: you man.

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Speaker 2: That's okay, that's that's pretty good. That's vague enough.

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Speaker 1: Big enough for it doesn't really say anything, but like

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Speaker 1: important enough where it hits all the notes right, like,

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Speaker 1: so because I feel like Cam and Holliday Bar being synonymous,

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Speaker 1: and really it's Holiday Bar is the and.

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Speaker 2: We call it Holiday.

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Speaker 1: So we dropped the bar because when people drink coffee

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Speaker 1: there to you and come there more often. But Holiday

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Speaker 1: is like the thing, right Like Cam's kind of scilitator.

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Speaker 1: So now you're seeing me be like, oh, I'm more

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Speaker 1: me if you want some free shots. Everyone man me.

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Speaker 3: The Cam discount is.

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Speaker 4: You know you've made it, like I've left I've left

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Speaker 4: friend of cards up there in the Friends of Cam

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Speaker 4: line on the receipt. That's why you know you've made

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Speaker 4: it when they just when I go in and it's like, Brandon,

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Speaker 4: give me your credit card because I know you're gonna

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Speaker 4: and just canceling it in order.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it happens a lot. Nuts. It's we've got there

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: Well, just so y'all know that's my trophy and the rafters, now.

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Speaker 1: That is your trophy. It's up there. It's yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: It's on the way that Kim.

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Speaker 4: What's funny is I was doing my own research, man,

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Speaker 1: Did go to Morehouse again?

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Speaker 3: I tell people all the time.

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Speaker 4: I'm always I'm always jealous of my friends that have

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Speaker 3: That's a different crowd.

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Speaker 2: Wow mm hmmm.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, you you've really been like deep in this man,

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Speaker 1: But if you know, if you know the history, then

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Speaker 1: a lot of research on drinking and drinking culture within Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: like particular Darting, and I call him the Golden years

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Speaker 1: Parties, you had, all Star you had oh man, I

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Speaker 4: And can one thing I've learned about you man again,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I pride myself on hospitals just show right, Like

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Speaker 1: Right They're like, oh, well you want this, so I'm

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Speaker 2: Did you find out something about that person or something.

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Speaker 3: No, that's the difference with experience.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, keep going hit it.

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Speaker 1: For me, different people have different experiences this and another

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Speaker 4: but like it's always interesting. Again, look I'm I'm always

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Speaker 1: It's made us. Yeah, it's made us unique. It's really humbling.

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Speaker 1: I don't talk about that often. It's it's super humbling

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Speaker 2: It's it's been super cool.

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Speaker 1: It's been super cool, super humbling the way that the

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Speaker 1: about the noise sometimes, guys, but h so, but I

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Speaker 3: Just out of curiosity.

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Speaker 4: If if you meet somebody there and you'll end up

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Speaker 3: You know, something like it's like automatic thing.

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Speaker 1: Definitely some like some celebratory drinks like every every birthday, right,

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Speaker 2: Like, hey, they had the first holiday, baby.

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Speaker 1: I have pictures on my phone of like our first customers,

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Speaker 4: Oh man, but again, those are those just like the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it's.

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Speaker 3: It's those are the things that make you come back.

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Speaker 4: Those those relationships to people, like I say, knowing the bartenders,

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: Again, I just always think it's cool. Like I grew

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Speaker 4: Yeah you know, so it's like, yeah, a part of

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Speaker 4: you know what. I'm like just coming in like, hey,

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Speaker 1: It just comes for you. Love.

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Speaker 2: That is what we're trying to do. Man, It's uh,

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Speaker 2: it's been cool.

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Speaker 3: Ken. Now we gotta get into what we really came

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about it.

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Speaker 3: You gotta look me and you've been plotting on this

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Speaker 4: Look man, a lot of people just see the finished product,

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Speaker 4: you know, they see y'all, they see y'all jumping on

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Speaker 4: But like, what's been a moment just in this whole

441
00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,760
Speaker 4: journey with Holiday that you've kind of stepped back and

442
00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:12,240
Speaker 4: been like, first of all, like what did I get

443
00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:12,920
Speaker 4: myself into?

444
00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:19,280
Speaker 1: Yeah? So we're always we try to be the first

445
00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:24,040
Speaker 1: at stuff at Holiday, and we've definitely gotten ourselves in

446
00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:30,200
Speaker 1: some in some TIFFs, I'll say, So I'll tell everybody

447
00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,399
Speaker 1: the story about the first weekend Holiday, right, Like, so

448
00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,960
Speaker 1: we holiday people don't realize Howiday opened in August. We

449
00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:40,240
Speaker 1: didn't get our liquor license till October. So if you

450
00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,199
Speaker 1: ever try to open up an all day coffee shop, right, like,

451
00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,520
Speaker 1: I mean you're not one of these big boys. It's rough.

452
00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,960
Speaker 1: So we were losing money left and right. We got

453
00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,240
Speaker 1: down to like our last like two hundred dollars. It's

454
00:19:55,560 --> 00:20:00,360
Speaker 1: we have one employee, it's me, my partner. We're all

455
00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,240
Speaker 1: sitting there one day and I'm like, I don't know

456
00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:06,520
Speaker 1: if we're gonna make it, Like well, my partner put

457
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:07,320
Speaker 1: up his condo.

458
00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,560
Speaker 2: It's like I could be homeless. So we're stressed out.

459
00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,000
Speaker 2: But we got the liquor license that.

460
00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,040
Speaker 1: Weekend and we just opened up the doors. We didn't

461
00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,000
Speaker 1: tell anybody. It wasn't a social media thing. We just

462
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:22,320
Speaker 1: opened up the doors and we just got bombarded. Which

463
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,440
Speaker 1: was good. It was we're able to cover payroll that week.

464
00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,000
Speaker 1: But also like I looked around and was like, oh,

465
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,399
Speaker 1: this is gonna be an issue. Like this is gonna

466
00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:34,280
Speaker 1: be a problem. So from jump, it's kind of been

467
00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:38,000
Speaker 1: like every day has been been new. You know. Now

468
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,240
Speaker 1: we've ventured into a few other things, like we do

469
00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:45,720
Speaker 1: we do these morning parties. Yeah, and that was a superviral,

470
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,200
Speaker 1: super superviral. I was in d C.

471
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,040
Speaker 3: I was we made the news.

472
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,800
Speaker 1: We made the news in d C, which has insane.

473
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,240
Speaker 1: They sent me a little bit have you heard of

474
00:20:55,240 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 1: this holiday in Atlanta? I said a ship, go ahead, ship.

475
00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,760
Speaker 2: I was like, what what what did I do?

476
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 1: Like shout out to Ape Hot and Jerremany. Yeah. Yeah.

477
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 1: So that's that's the most recent been like all right,

478
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 1: what is going on? And it's all fun during the

479
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 1: weekends and no one, no one, everybody has a blast

480
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:22,920
Speaker 1: of these things and no one knows.

481
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 2: What you have to do on Monday when people are like, so.

482
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 1: What did you do this weekend? Who you know? So

483
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,439
Speaker 1: that's the flip side of all this. It's like you

484
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,640
Speaker 1: have to go. I don't like using the word code

485
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 1: twitch because that didn't it's not taking on like a

486
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:40,919
Speaker 1: racial connotation, but like you have to go and like

487
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 1: represent this business and you're doing what you have to

488
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 1: do for your business to stay open in these times,

489
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,160
Speaker 1: and sometimes the powers that be don't understand that, nor

490
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,199
Speaker 1: do they care. And that's been kind of the biggest

491
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 1: crunch of the last year and a half two years.

492
00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,160
Speaker 1: It's like, we're doing what we have to do for us,

493
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 1: right and to be good neighbors and partners and stuff

494
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:08,120
Speaker 1: like that, and people want you to do what they

495
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,679
Speaker 1: want you to do with the perimeters on them and

496
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 1: they're not trying to help you.

497
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,879
Speaker 4: They don't know unders saying the other part that you

498
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 4: got to kind of, you know, manage.

499
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,199
Speaker 3: In order to help make that stuff happen, right, correct.

500
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 1: And that's so every year I have a like why

501
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,360
Speaker 1: am I in this thing? And this year it's been

502
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,120
Speaker 1: like we had sixteen bars closed in the last year.

503
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially in the West Midtown, in the West Midtown.

504
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,679
Speaker 1: Yeah. So that's just in West Midtown. Sixteen bars within

505
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,879
Speaker 1: a square mile of West Midtown. That's an insane statistic.

506
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:38,160
Speaker 1: That's a scary statistic. So then you see us.

507
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,399
Speaker 2: Kind of like pivoting, pushing that envelope.

508
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,120
Speaker 1: Like all right, cool, well you know if they say

509
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 1: we can't do it this, we we're gonna do it

510
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,159
Speaker 1: this way, right like And the pivot, the pivot has

511
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 1: always been like all right, we don't have to stop pivoting.

512
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 2: When can this just be just be this thing?

513
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 1: Right? Like? You know what I'm saying. If people plays

514
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 1: have been there for thirty years and they just they

515
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 1: have the thing. Since our thing is based around people,

516
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,479
Speaker 1: and our thing is people, our thing always changes. And

517
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 1: that's been an interesting fact with.

518
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 4: All those bars closing in West Mintown, just you're like,

519
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 4: what do you think is the common thread with all

520
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 4: that stuff? Because it's like a lot of them just

521
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 4: seem to happen like overnight too. It's not even like

522
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 4: a it's like there one minute, the next day you

523
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 4: come up, it's just a piece of paper on the door.

524
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I think that people got

525
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: a lot of money during COVID. However they got the money,

526
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 1: I think that money made you a little bit less

527
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 1: risk averse to go into these areas and the area,

528
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,640
Speaker 1: let me say the area wanted us to come in, right,

529
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 1: The area wanted all these bars here and stuff like that.

530
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 1: They wanted to be an entertainment hub and stuff like that.

531
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 1: I think the dream that the areas sold and that

532
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,880
Speaker 1: the product that actually landed in the area were two

533
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,239
Speaker 1: different things. I think people had the money, so they

534
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 1: did these deals that gave them a decently long runway,

535
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 1: but they didn't plan for you know, the price of

536
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 1: eggs going up, right, it's a business altering change, and

537
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't see that cost. You just

538
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: see the cost that you get as a consumer, but

539
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 1: no one knows the cost that actually goes in on

540
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: the back end. Right, Yeah, yeah, there's well there's no margins, right,

541
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: like you after after you pay your your employees, after

542
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: you pay your rent, after you you know, forget even

543
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:21,120
Speaker 1: paying yourself. Right after you pay all that, all that

544
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 1: has to come out.

545
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 2: Of your one dish of yeah, your one.

546
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 1: Omelet, right, That's that's what it is, right, Like, so

547
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 1: three eggs pay.

548
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 2: For all this.

549
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then like if you didn't have I call

550
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,400
Speaker 1: it the crunch, If you don't have the crunch based

551
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: into your business plan, you'll never survive the crunch. Yeah, right,

552
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 1: like and that's yeah, I think that's what happened. Like

553
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 1: these guys came in and a lot of them from

554
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,719
Speaker 1: out of town, some of them local brands and stuff.

555
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,919
Speaker 1: You don't survive the crunch, you know, And how do

556
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 1: you plan out thirty years ahead if you're like West

557
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 1: Egg was there for seventeen years, eighteen years, how do

558
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,640
Speaker 1: you plan that act into your You just close the doors. Yeah,

559
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: it's just it's not sustainable anymore, right.

560
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 4: No, it's interesting when you talk about the crunch because

561
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 4: you know, again that's a that's just a perspective that

562
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 4: comes from experience. And so yeah, a lot of people

563
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 4: don't build that part in but then on the other

564
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 4: side even that said, like, what is something that you've

565
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 4: experienced in here, like with this whole journey that you

566
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 4: didn't know about that like nobody warns you about.

567
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 3: The kind of surprised you in doing this.

568
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 2: I guess I didn't realize how much location matters, right like, and.

569
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: That sounds stupid. We're on one side of the interlock.

570
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: There's other business on the other side of the inter lock.

571
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 1: All the business on that other side clothes, none of

572
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: the business on my side clothes. Is there that big

573
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: of a difference between one it's not even a block

574
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 1: one block there. Yeah, that corner on has a lot

575
00:25:54,960 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 1: to do with the success of holiday and that's not

576
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 1: everywhere else has kind of been like isolated. I've been

577
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: in a hotel, or I've been like behind you know,

578
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 1: I was on another corner that had no foot traffic

579
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: at all.

580
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 2: Right, So it's really easy to get a big head

581
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 2: to be like, oh I did all this.

582
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 1: And stuff like that, and now you're just able to

583
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: be seen from the one of the business corners in Atlanta.

584
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 3: That's what I how to go there.

585
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and all the businesses on each one of those

586
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: four Corners is still open right like and doing decently well.

587
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 2: So I think the location like it it was.

588
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: Humbling right like you're like, oh, yeah, like I'm this

589
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,719
Speaker 1: great business operators like no, you're not. You know, like

590
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: it's like now people can just see you and you

591
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: have a decent enough product where people are.

592
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 2: Like, oh, let's go here. You're loud enough to get

593
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 2: people's attention.

594
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,199
Speaker 1: Back when I was in New Jersey, there used to

595
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: be a spot called Jose Tejas and you'd be driving

596
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 1: down the highway and then it doesn't say Jose Tajas

597
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: is a huge kneon sign. It's probably like one hundred

598
00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: feet in the.

599
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 2: Air and it just says The sign just says eat here.

600
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: It's a big sign, right like you pull up as

601
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: Osea's a TEXTBACS restaurant, nothing special and stuff like that.

602
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 2: But that was how my mom and I went to eat.

603
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: There the first time. About it, Yeah, So like location,

604
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: until you've profited from a location, a lot of people

605
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: lose because of a location. Until you've profited from a location,

606
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: you don't really realize how much it matters, like how

607
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: much you're not out of sight, out of mind.

608
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 2: So that's been a huge.

609
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: Learning thing and then age matters now like so like

610
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: this is my fifth, fifth project and now I'm tired

611
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 1: all the time. It's you know, I got my first

612
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 1: bar at twenty five, right like you know, now I'm

613
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: thirty three and it's like, nah, I need to go home.

614
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: I can't do what Yeah? Yeah, yeah, so that's the

615
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 1: coming of age. It's happened at holiday. I got gray

616
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: hairs now, shit stressed out the coming of age at holiday,

617
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: which people shout out to the staff at holiday because

618
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: they've seen that in real time and it is ugly.

619
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 3: It's like the president, Like you've seen those pictures of

620
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 3: the president and he.

621
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 2: Comes out office. Man, that's that's ugly.

622
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: Seeing a person having self actualization in real time is

623
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: not The movies do not sell it, right. It is

624
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: an ugly bad process.

625
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 2: A shout out to.

626
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: Them for dealing with me doing all but that that's

627
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: been something that I did not anticipate. That like it

628
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: has forced me. Circumstances forced me into no man.

629
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 4: Look like I said, when they say whenever a president

630
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 4: gets out of office, they all get like a free

631
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 4: heart transplant.

632
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 3: Or something, you know what I mean. Life, Yeah, just

633
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 3: just the amount of stress. They deal with it.

634
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 4: Like you can go look at pictures of Barack Obama

635
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 4: when he went in versus like when he came out,

636
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 4: he's like he's aged thirty forty years and just you know,

637
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 4: eight years, you know what I'm saying. And I feel

638
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,479
Speaker 4: like as an entrepreneur, like when you especially when you

639
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 4: really have something that's I mean hell, even if it's

640
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 4: not working, you know just the amount of it, you

641
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 4: know the amount of just stuff that goes into it.

642
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 4: I mean I remember, like even to your point about location,

643
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 4: I used to own a web design agency and the

644
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 4: idea that I had was like, you know what, like

645
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 4: what if I put this in a mall? Because you

646
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 4: know this is you know, back in like the early

647
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 4: two thousands. I was like, you know, there's a lot

648
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 4: of foot traffic, and like web design has always been

649
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 4: like a very referral based business. Like even now, if

650
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 4: you need a website, like where do you go? There's

651
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 4: not like a person that you go to. So I

652
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 4: got this crazy idea, I'm build a website shop and

653
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 4: put it in the mall. And like it worked, but

654
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 4: let me tell you, stressed me the hell out, Like

655
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 4: to the point to where and a part of it

656
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 4: too was and I'll even talk about this, was like

657
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 4: I don't think I did a great job of hiring

658
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 4: because a lot of that stuff fell back on me.

659
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 4: And you know, there was literally a point in my

660
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 4: life where I would have anxiety attacks anytime my phone

661
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 4: would go off. I mean, and think about how many

662
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 4: times your phone goes off over the course of a day, Emails,

663
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 4: text messages fall like you're just like, oh God, what

664
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 4: is it now? You know what I'm saying, and you're

665
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 4: looking at this stuff. And so that was something that

666
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 4: I had to learn to manage because I said, you

667
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 4: know what, I can't do this again, Like I'm not

668
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 4: going to survive this if I do it like this again.

669
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 4: And I don't think people see that. Like I literally

670
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 4: used a lot of people and tell them I don't

671
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 4: own this place, like the guy who owns it lives

672
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 4: in Florida all the time, and I just work here

673
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 4: like I'm not the owner, like you saying it was

674
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 4: the worst mistake I ever made was making business cards

675
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 4: to said owner on them. And I will never make

676
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 4: that mistake.

677
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 5: Every time you do you own holiday, who's asking? Because

678
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 5: now I'm the bus boy. I just work here, Yeah,

679
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 5: let me throw that out for you.

680
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:43,479
Speaker 1: Boss.

681
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 4: Well, that's what saying, even you know, even hiring people.

682
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 4: That's what I've learned is like a whole skill set

683
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 4: in it within itself. And you know, having even worked

684
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 4: in like the hospitality space, I've done some restaurant stuff.

685
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 4: I mean, I've seen it firsthand. Like, what's the biggest

686
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 4: challenge that you've experienced, Because we have a lot of

687
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 4: people come on who have built businesses and they all

688
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 4: kind of say a team, but like from a from

689
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 4: a hospitality restaurant bar send, Like, what's the biggest challenge

690
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 4: in getting that right.

691
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 3: Group of people for that kind of team?

692
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: Systems? Systems systems, right, like, So the biggest challenge that

693
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: we've had, I've the biggest time is that I've seen

694
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: hospitality And the biggest challenge that I've had, right is

695
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: self automation. Right Like, so like I'm a pretty good bartender,

696
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: you know, pretty good server and stuff like that.

697
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 2: I'm not a good accountant, you know.

698
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: Like and once you're at the top, right you shift,

699
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: we tell people who's the same we use there? You

700
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,479
Speaker 1: got to use more of this instead of using this,

701
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: right like, so like you could be the best bartender

702
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: in the world. If you can't pay your staff on

703
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: they're not going to stay. Uh. So one of the

704
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: big yeah, the biggest challenges has been like systems and

705
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: taking myself out of like, oh, I could just do

706
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: this because I've been so used to working with this, right,

707
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: I could just make this cocktail this way, I could

708
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: just do this, or like seeing the gaps in the

709
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: service and stuff like that.

710
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 2: And getting like the admin done, like returning returning emails right.

711
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 3: Like they're going from working in the business to on

712
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 3: the business.

713
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 2: On the business right like uh, and preparing yourself to

714
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 2: be scaled.

715
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: Right. So that's why a lot of restaurants never get

716
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: past one because yeah, you could have all the success,

717
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: you can't prove it you get I can tell you

718
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: I made this much like so y and Z, Well

719
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: how'd you do that? Well, you know, I just do no.

720
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: Like it's not so learning like project managing software learning

721
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: like uh, getting you know, payroll in on time, getting

722
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: permits filed on time, and stuff like that.

723
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 2: That's been the what you don't realize.

724
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: And that's been my biggest hurdle is doing that stuff

725
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: or automating the stuff that I want to do right

726
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: and passing it off to other people so I could

727
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: do this other big stuff to prepare to you know,

728
00:32:52,880 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: the next iteration of holiday.

729
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 4: You know, for a lot of folks, especially because I've

730
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 4: worked in like the agency space, Like that's what you

731
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 4: see all the time. Like you have somebody that's a

732
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 4: really good designer, and you know you want to promote

733
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 4: them because they want to grow, they want to you know,

734
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 4: they want to move up in an organization.

735
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 3: At a certain point though, if you in order to

736
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 3: move up, you.

737
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 4: Had to start managing people, You had to start doing

738
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 4: more of the administrative stuff. So you get further away

739
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 4: from the work because you're working on the business. You're

740
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 4: doing reports and you're in meetings and like you don't

741
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 4: get to spend as much time doing the creative stuff.

742
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 4: And it's always interesting, right, Like seeing is this a

743
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 4: challenge for a lot of people because I had the

744
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 4: same thing. Like I remember when I had the website shop.

745
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 4: You know, I went to the bank one day being like, yeah,

746
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 4: I want some money, and they were like, let me

747
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 4: see a P and L And I said, what the

748
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 4: fuck is that? And you know I literally went to

749
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 4: you know, office depot and I bought a copy of

750
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 4: quick Books and then I installed it and I said, okay,

751
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 4: I still don't know what this is. You know, like

752
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 4: literally one day, like on my way home, I used

753
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 4: to pass this accounting firm every day.

754
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 3: It was just I would just see it.

755
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 4: And I just went over there one day and knocked

756
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 4: on the door and this guy comes to the door

757
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 4: and I'm like, look, I own a business down the

758
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 4: street and they told me I need a P and

759
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 4: L and I I don't even know how to use

760
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 4: quick Books. I said, I'll just give you like one

761
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 4: hundred bucks if you show me how to use it.

762
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,240
Speaker 4: And he was like, man, take your dumb mass.

763
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 3: In the back.

764
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: And I'm just exactly exactly.

765
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 4: It's like you don't even know those those things that

766
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 4: it takes, like really you had and you got to

767
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 4: do it through trial and error and bump your head

768
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 4: and it's it's tough.

769
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 1: And a lot of I think something that makes Holiday

770
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: a little bit different or any of the businesses we

771
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: do that I'm learning and it's been growing pains with that.

772
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: Something we implemented in the last I guess eighteen months.

773
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: If you're an employee of Holiday, you have to start

774
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:46,919
Speaker 1: a business within a year.

775
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Okay, so most of our employees are starting

776
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 2: a business or working on a business and stuff like that,

777
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 2: because if you're investing or in the food service industry,

778
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 2: it's not like a it's not like a lot of

779
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 2: upward momentum unless you really want to do this for

780
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 2: the rest of your life, and not many people want to

781
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 2: do People do it out of circumstance, but not many

782
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 2: people were like me, like, not, I want to serve

783
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 2: people for the rest of my life, you know.

784
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: Like, So if you're investing this much into our business,

785
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: right like, and we know you're going to leave, then

786
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: you have to be investing equal amount of time into

787
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: yourself and then we can pivot then turn us into

788
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: a client.

789
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 2: Right like, and then stuff like that. So that way

790
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:26,439
Speaker 2: the relationship doesn't end.

791
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you leave, and that people leave.

792
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 2: That's that's support of momentum for us, right like.

793
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: So you only have x amount of managers, right like,

794
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: So like, if you have fifteen employees and then two

795
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: can be managers, and if we already have managers and

796
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: they don't leave, then like this is going to end.

797
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: Right So, but in teaching people how to start a business,

798
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: is very much a reflection on yourself if you're running

799
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: a business and be like, oh I could tell you

800
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: how to do this better. If I don't do it well,

801
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: then you're not going to think you have to do it.

802
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: So like it's a lot of like that's why I

803
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: say like the self actualization of like what the employees

804
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,720
Speaker 1: and stuff have seen has been us cleaning up and

805
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: it's been a mirror right, Like so cleaning up in

806
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: real time how you interact with people, how you know,

807
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: how you manage people and stuff like that. So I

808
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 1: hope I'm getting better, But that's been a really cool,

809
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: but really challenging thing is because you're now we've now

810
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 1: gone a step from like managing people like at work,

811
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: so like hey you could do this and they do

812
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 1: that and stuff, and now we're like we're creeping into

813
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: their off time and be like, hey, well what do

814
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: you do to do this?

815
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 2: Talk to us about your business and stuff like that.

816
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: So a lot of our one on ones that we

817
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 1: do with them is like what are you doing outside

818
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: of work? Yeah? Right, because I can see what you're

819
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: doing inside of work? Correct that? Or are you right?

820
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: Like what are you doing outside of work? Like why

821
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 1: are you acting this way or why you know, why

822
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: don't you dedicate more time to this and maybe you'll

823
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: be happier here, like and stuff like that.

824
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 4: Now, when y'all, when y'all have that, I've never heard

825
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 4: like a policy like that in a sense before, Like

826
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 4: do you how does holiday then supporting kind of pour

827
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 4: into people to help them start that business, because everybody's

828
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 4: in a different place in that journey.

829
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: Right. So our first employee he was he's in the

830
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: coffee space and stuff like that. And our first employee

831
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: taught everybody coffee. He now trains all the staff on

832
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 1: all of our coffees and stuff like that. He services

833
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: our coffee equipment and we buy coffee from.

834
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 3: Oh wow, okay, so you train that ecosystem, you know

835
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 3: what I'm saying to your point.

836
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we our second employee wrote books and stuff

837
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: like that. We bought We bought the books. We have

838
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: other employees who.

839
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 2: Start like production companies or organization companies.

840
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: We utilize all of them. Still, let's still try to

841
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 1: We try to utilize everybody if it's an applicable business.

842
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: You know, you want to be a realtor not saying

843
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: to buy a house, but uh, but we'll try, but

844
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: we might refer you.

845
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, holidays is a tool, right like?

846
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: And we start we started the company like we're going

847
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: to sell it the next day. If we sold it,

848
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: if we had a liquidation event the next day, what's

849
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: it going to look like? Right like? And now we

850
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: hire employees like their last day is going to be

851
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,720
Speaker 1: the next day, right so if you put in that time,

852
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: what's your last day going to look like?

853
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 2: And we can't just put you out? Is a demand job.

854
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of people it's a it's

855
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 1: a it's a hard it's a bar, but it's a

856
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: hard bart of work, right like. So full time for

857
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: us is three days, wow, So and people still get

858
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: their butts kicked and you can't work like your three

859
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: days can't be Friday, Saturday, Sunday too much, right like?

860
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 2: So people get burnt out and stuff like that.

861
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: You get burnt out because you're not spending enough time

862
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: on yourself at home or investing in what you want

863
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: to do and stuff like that. And then you don't

864
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: get burnt out because you're physically tired, because we don't

865
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: work anybody that much. You get burned out because you

866
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: feel like you have nowhere to go, So for us,

867
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: you need somewhere to go, right and that you should

868
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 1: go to yourself or to your business or stuff like that. Right,

869
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: So we have artists, so we you know, we buy

870
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: their art like it's.

871
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 2: Stuff like that.

872
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: But yeah, we've been we've been pretty successful with it

873
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 1: since implementing it and stuff like that.

874
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 2: I like to think that the stats a little bit

875
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 2: happier and stuff.

876
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: So it's uh yeah, and people get to make real

877
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: money that we don't touch right right like, and that's

878
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: seeing money come to you that's your own as opposed

879
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: to money that we pay you.

880
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 3: Totally, it's a different it's a different feel.

881
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: It's different feel, a different feeling.

882
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 4: I mean, I kind of you know, it's funny like

883
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 4: that's that's that's a really interesting policy. That might be

884
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 4: something I gotta I about to steal that idea.

885
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 2: Hey man, we need more business out there.

886
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 4: And and it's almost like a coaching tree, you know

887
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 4: if you kind of think about it, like like looking

888
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 4: like a I don't know, like a Bill Belichick or

889
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 4: somebody right like when they actually map out like all

890
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 4: the other coaches now that at some point coached under

891
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 4: him or work for him, and now they're actually running

892
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 4: teams and doing stuff like yeah, literally treating that whole

893
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 4: just amazing ecosystem of just you know, and everybody kind

894
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 4: of has that common thing, that common thread in places

895
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 4: I spend time here, but this is what also helped

896
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 4: me kind of launching go on to my next thing.

897
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 4: And everybody has that commonality. You know, it's like a

898
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 4: really it's a really special thing. It seems like it's cool.

899
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 4: It helps us get better.

900
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: Everybody knows each other's businesses, they utilize each other for stuff, and.

901
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 3: People think like business owners too at a certain point,

902
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 3: which also.

903
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:02,240
Speaker 1: Probably helps you all because once you switch your thinking

904
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 1: from an employee to a business owner, you're like, oh, no,

905
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: Like I get it, because there'll be times well they'll

906
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: be doing stuff and I'll just look at them and

907
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: be like, I know. I was like, yeah, yeah, remember

908
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: when you fuckings you see this gray hair? This is

909
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: your gray hair, right like You've yeah, They're like damn.

910
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, what's been the most surprising or kind

911
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 4: of unexpected feedback you've gotten from a customer?

912
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: At holiday two years ago, we had a guest come

913
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: in not sad, but like exactly like a little off,

914
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: Like they tell her weren't having the best day and

915
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,919
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and get to talking. I'm like, what's

916
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: going on?

917
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 2: So it's my birthday to day?

918
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, you know, like whatever you know and

919
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: stuff like that. They're like, yeah, I think a few

920
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: people are meeting me and no one came. Oh man,

921
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: no one came, and so the staff was there. Happened.

922
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: I think it was like a Thursday or something like that.

923
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 1: It was busy enough, but it wasn't like crazy busy.

924
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: So we do that young Ladio birthday party and we

925
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: had a black we got drunk, but yeah, that was

926
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: That's probably one of the most not surprising, but I

927
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: guess fulfilling things that we did that was really cool.

928
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 2: And now she comes back all the time surprising.

929
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: I think the success of it that's happened, going from

930
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: like serving coffee in the morning to cocktails at night.

931
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: That's super surprised. Every day that people come in there

932
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: and decide to drink with us, and like what and

933
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: how people decide to drink.

934
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 2: So like we don't close, we're always open on the holiday.

935
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: So like we're busy on holidays like the Monday holidays

936
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. We're busy. We're open on Christmas,

937
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: busy on Christmas, you know, and every year the holiday's grown.

938
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: So that's been the most surprising thing is seeing like

939
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: how we resonate with the community and stuff of that,

940
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: because originally, like we're always open Christmas and Thanksgiving, right,

941
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: like if you come in on Thanksgiving and you have

942
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: nowhere to grow. We originally started it for industry people

943
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: because they're usually the only people working. Yeah, so if

944
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,720
Speaker 1: you're in the industry, you get off work, you should

945
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: be able to come into holiday, get a drink. We

946
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: usually have some food there if you get some if

947
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: you get food early, if you get there early enough,

948
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: you'll get to play the food, sit out and relax.

949
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 2: Let us take care of you.

950
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: This thing same we had to have a security guard

951
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: cause like there was like two hundred three hundred people

952
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: that oh wow, yeah eight food.

953
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 2: I cooked two forty five pound turkeys.

954
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: So that like that's been a Christmas has been a thing,

955
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 1: like and now it's become so like community based, where

956
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 1: like we were cooking for people. Now people are bringing

957
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: the staff plates. If you work on holidays, and we

958
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: don't allow any of the employees to work on holidays,

959
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: so it's just managers. So it's like me and the

960
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: GM or me and the AGM just bartending.

961
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 2: Like and we're getting our asses. Like it's supposed to

962
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 2: be an easy shift.

963
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's like a real deal shift. And like

964
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: it's us bartending. We asked the staff to come in

965
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: to enjoy, but like they don't need to work, et cetera,

966
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: et cetera. So that's been really cool just the way

967
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: that people have kind of embraced that stuff, or like

968
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: some of the little things we've been doing, same thing.

969
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 1: We have a I have a cookout every year a

970
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: moral Day and Labor Day or we just cook for

971
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: the community and stuff like that, and what that's kind

972
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: of turned into has been really it's been a blessing.

973
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: But it's been super sprongling. You just take something that

974
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: start out as like ten to fifteen friends, Yeah, now

975
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: it goes to like one hundred and fifty people.

976
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 4: Man, Yeah, I mean, but again, it just that just

977
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 4: speaks to you know, the place that you all kind

978
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 4: of have in people's hearts and minds, right, Like, this

979
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 4: is a place that I can come even as a

980
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 4: person who again is in the industry or whatever, like

981
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 4: this is also a place for me, not just the

982
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 4: place that you know I see and pass by, Like

983
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 4: when I need a break, I can go there.

984
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:44,479
Speaker 1: Yeah.

985
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's that's been it. I think personal.

986
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 1: Wise, like has been the growth, right like because we

987
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: always going to then assumption that the more money you have,

988
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: like that solves all your problems, right like you know,

989
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: like and then like Biggie pattt right like more money,

990
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 1: more problems. So like you said it earlier about everybody

991
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: sees the finished product and stuff like that, and they

992
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: don't see like the hotel bars or the fox Trot

993
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: and Tikky Tacos before then and stuff like that and

994
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 1: all the fails and stuff and then.

995
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 2: No one We've talked about this, and I know it

996
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 2: took a long time to get here. The cost no one,

997
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 2: no one sees.

998
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 1: No one sees the cost.

999
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 3: Nobody sees it.

1000
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 1: And I now with holiday, like I'm more open about

1001
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 1: talking about the cost. Yeah, man, because the sacrifice is rough.

1002
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: It's it's rough, it's humbling, it's scary, it makes you

1003
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 1: not want to do it. There's days where you feel

1004
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 1: like giving up, and no one talks about that. And

1005
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 1: it that was the most surprising part that even though

1006
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: you get bigger, the cost gets higher. Yeah, and no

1007
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: one tells you that you think the cost only stays

1008
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: here from lots of.

1009
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 4: Levels though, right, Like it's the cost, it's the you know,

1010
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 4: you you realize how much you got, you've invested in this,

1011
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 4: You got on the line, like you know, like you

1012
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 4: can't get up and just and you can't get up

1013
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 4: and just walk away, you know.

1014
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 3: You know, it's like I can't even just I don't

1015
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 3: I'm just here.

1016
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 4: I gotta keep going because I can't go back, I

1017
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 4: can't quit, I can't do so I can't just not

1018
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 4: do this what I'm gonna do next? You know, I gotta,

1019
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 4: I gotta how do I evolve this if I'm gonna

1020
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 4: do something next.

1021
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: The toll that this industry has taken on me mentally

1022
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: and physically has been astronomically.

1023
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 4: When I was gonna ask you, like burnout is a

1024
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 4: real thing, Like so it's really real And again, like

1025
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 4: you know, I know people talk about mental health and

1026
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 4: taking breaks, so like how do you manage that stress

1027
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 4: and burnout as best as possible?

1028
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,760
Speaker 3: Because it's always gonna be a challenge for folks like us.

1029
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: Right, Uh, you know, like get a good therapist.

1030
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 3: Some of the best money I've spent is on a

1031
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 3: good therapists.

1032
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah. So you're the people in your life

1033
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: aren't meant to be your therapist. And sometimes entrepreneurs we

1034
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,760
Speaker 1: tend to use it that way. Our wives, our kids

1035
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: or whatever. Right, Like, they're not your therapists, and they're

1036
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: not equipped to deal with some of the stuff that

1037
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: you were dealing with, especially if they're the source of

1038
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: some of the strait, right, Like you know what I'm saying.

1039
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 1: So like that's therapy has helped out a lot, being

1040
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: able to giving it all that I've got, right Like,

1041
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: so before you kind of hold stuff back and you're like, hey,

1042
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: you know, if this doesn't work out, then I have

1043
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,720
Speaker 1: a contingency plan for that. There's planning and then there's

1044
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: just like being like, hey, I gave it the best

1045
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: I could do, Like I left nothing on the table, right,

1046
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: Like last year was a crappy year sales wise, and

1047
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: what I said to my partners, and I was like, look,

1048
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: we're not going to hit the number, but I gotta

1049
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: be honest with you guys. I gave it everything I got. Yeah,

1050
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: And I was cool with that. I left it all

1051
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: on the field, right, like so and accepting that, right,

1052
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: So that has been giving yourself grace, like giving yourself.

1053
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that has been the one of the more

1054
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 2: challenging things for me.

1055
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: Like it's be like, all right, cool, I hit it there,

1056
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: I hit it there, I hit it there, you know,

1057
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: especially where you you know, I've had seven projects have

1058
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,439
Speaker 1: only closed down one, right, like you know, and five

1059
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: projects have hit Yeah. So then you're like, all right, well,

1060
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: why is this not hitting right? And you're like, it's me,

1061
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: it's and sometimes it's just like a life man, and

1062
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: no one sees that when you're there by yourself and

1063
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: like you just it's you that in a bottle.

1064
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:47,280
Speaker 3: There.

1065
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, so like and like you know, people like you

1066
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 1: still four thirty in the morning, Yeah, leave me alone.

1067
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 2: You ain't seen anything.

1068
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, just living and let live and be like

1069
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes it's just gonna run its course. And

1070
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: being able to trust other people, trust other people with

1071
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: your vision and be like people are investing in you

1072
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: and accept that. Like sometimes people are gonna like stab

1073
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: you in the back and that's okay.

1074
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 2: That says more about them than it does about you.

1075
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: But oh man, yeah, there used to be times I

1076
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: was taking all that to heart, and like twenty twenty three,

1077
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 1: even parts of twenty twenty four.

1078
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 4: Just it's hard to take it personal though, especially when

1079
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 4: you absolutely invest so much in it, so much of

1080
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 4: your time, yourself. They like, people don't know what you've

1081
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 4: sacrificed to make this possible.

1082
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, money is the least valuable thing that you invest

1083
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 1: in a business. And no one realizes that money is

1084
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 1: the least valuable thing. Yeah, like the pieces of you

1085
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: that you bear, especially in the food and beverage industry.

1086
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: The piece is like everybody goes to a bar to

1087
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: celebrate or to do something. We're there for work. So

1088
00:48:55,760 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: what you do as a regular interaction is my job, right,

1089
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: and that's happy, sad, whatever. I got to give a

1090
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: piece of myself to you, because that's what good hospitality is,

1091
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: Like you let people in.

1092
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 2: You know, I got to give a piece of myself

1093
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 2: to you.

1094
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 1: And people take these pieces, take these pieces, take these pieces,

1095
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 1: and they usually don't come back.

1096
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 2: And then one day you wake up and you're empty

1097
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 2: and you're like yeo and that and that's the burnout

1098
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 2: right there, That's that's the crash. And then you're running

1099
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 2: on empty and you still got to do all this

1100
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 2: stuff and you're not telling anybody you're empty, right, so

1101
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 2: no one has any grace for that, right, or like

1102
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 2: no one understands that. So then you're just you're the

1103
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 2: shell of yourself, right, And then you hear people just

1104
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 2: having a heart attack or like whatever, because it just

1105
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 2: that's some like I've had to talk to doctors.

1106
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 1: About, like I've been like we've been worried about like

1107
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: the cost that it takes on you to give yourself

1108
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: to people every day and expect people to treat it

1109
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: with respect and they don't, and like you got to

1110
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:57,760
Speaker 1: go back and do it again.

1111
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, especially as the world we live into it, you

1112
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 4: know what I mean? You know your your world is

1113
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 4: a little bit different than mine in the sense of

1114
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 4: like even something as simple as a Google review, it's like, yeah,

1115
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 4: if you if you're having if you as the person

1116
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 4: that is working there and providing the service, is not

1117
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 4: having the best day, and you know you're trying or

1118
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,919
Speaker 4: you're trying to show up, and you know somebody has

1119
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 4: what they consider to not be a great I mean,

1120
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 4: even if it's something stupid, you know what I mean,

1121
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 4: It's like, oh, this table is wobbly, Like so now

1122
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go and leave a bad comment and review

1123
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 4: and like that sits there and that affects your business

1124
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,240
Speaker 4: and you're like come on, man, like come on, like seriously.

1125
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: And then you got to call that person be like hey, sorry,

1126
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 1: you had a bad time, right, what can we do

1127
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: the fix this? Well, I want to come in all right.

1128
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 4: Like you you can feel when people, you know, So

1129
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 4: I owned, I owned part of a restaurant for a

1130
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,280
Speaker 4: very short time. I learned my lesson.

1131
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 1: I was there.

1132
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 4: I learned my lesson, you know, and like I remember, bro,

1133
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 4: I remember the even when I got into it. My

1134
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 4: partners I got involved, I told them, I said, look,

1135
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 4: I'm really here because I have another idea and I

1136
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 4: just want to kind of learn. So I was very

1137
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 4: clear that like I'm not here because I want to

1138
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 4: work in this space, and I'd have no desire to.

1139
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 4: Like I was like, I literally said, don't call me

1140
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 4: if there's like something's going wrong. So like one day

1141
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 4: I was there and for whatever reason, I was the

1142
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 4: only owner there. You know, we go get into that,

1143
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 4: but like everybody was supposed to be there, Like I

1144
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 4: was the only one there and they didn't show up,

1145
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 4: and you know, and I was like, this is exactly

1146
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 4: what I didn't sign up for.

1147
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 3: And but I never forget this moment.

1148
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: Bro.

1149
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 3: Like I was in there and I was just at

1150
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 3: the bar.

1151
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 4: I was actually talking to Jada because Jada used to

1152
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 4: be there, and I was, you know, talking to the bar,

1153
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 4: and somebody comes to when of the waitress's service comes

1154
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 4: to me and she's like, uh, Brandon, you know, I

1155
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 4: know you don't deal with this, but these ladies over

1156
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 4: here they want to talk to a manager. And I'm like,

1157
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 4: here we go. So I go over right, and there's

1158
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 4: three ladies sitting down eating and I walk up and

1159
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 4: I see three empty plates. You would have dry, You

1160
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 4: would have thought they licked the plates clean, right. So

1161
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 4: the first lady says, I ordered the whatever the jerk

1162
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 4: chicken or whatever it was, and she was like, I

1163
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 4: didn't like it because it doesn't taste like my grandma's.

1164
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 3: Well this ain't your grandma's house. But again, the plate

1165
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 3: is empty.

1166
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 4: The next lady is like, I ordered the salmon and

1167
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 4: the portion was too small, so I'm still hungry. Again

1168
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 4: the plate is empty, and the third lady it was

1169
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 4: like the three bears and a third lady. I could

1170
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 4: tell she wanted to say something. She was like, I'm

1171
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 4: good because she was even I could tell she was

1172
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 4: embarrassed by them, and so I told him. I was like,

1173
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 4: look like, I'm Beyonce, y'all, I don't really handle this stuff.

1174
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:42,879
Speaker 4: You know, I'm just kind of here for something else.

1175
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 4: But I said, look, I can't give y'all. I can't

1176
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,800
Speaker 4: comp food that y'all ate. It's not like you ate

1177
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 4: a piece of it. We could have that, and I've

1178
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 4: I've worked in restaurants before, Like I get it, I said,

1179
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 4: but you know, like you literally and you licked the

1180
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 4: plate clean.

1181
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 3: Like I was like, so, I'm sorry that it was

1182
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 3: like that.

1183
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 4: But you know, if y'all, I can't really do anything

1184
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 4: about this place, I said, but here's what I do.

1185
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 4: How about just the round of mimosas, Like I want

1186
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,919
Speaker 4: y'all have a good experience. You know, sorry you felt

1187
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 4: that way, you know, I mean round of mimosas and

1188
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 4: you know, let's just call.

1189
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 3: It even cool.

1190
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 4: It was like cool. I tell the waitress. I was like,

1191
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 4: all right, can give them a round of mimosas please.

1192
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 4: She's like all right, absolutely, so put on my tap

1193
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 4: to make some mimosas they give them over. I go

1194
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 4: back and sit down at the bar doing what I'm doing.

1195
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 4: She comes back, Brandon, they want to see you again.

1196
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: Oh really, I.

1197
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:29,720
Speaker 3: Go back over to the table.

1198
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 4: Now I see three empty plates and three empty glasses

1199
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 4: of mimosas well. Actually I wanted a Cosmo? Can I

1200
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 4: just have that instead?

1201
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 1: Well?

1202
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 4: Actually I wanted a French seventy five. It was like,

1203
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 4: you know what, I'm sorry, y'all, like I already, this

1204
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 4: already is not what I did.

1205
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 3: But the answer is no.

1206
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 4: And by the way, security, can you go stand by

1207
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 4: the door because I already know what the next thing

1208
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 4: is gonna be, Like.

1209
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: Now you're going to make me act out, act out

1210
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: because I know y'all gonna try to make a move.

1211
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 4: And you know, I told the serve. I was like, look,

1212
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 4: they probably gonna stiffy on the tip I got you is.

1213
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 3: So that was just one micro moment.

1214
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 4: I couldn't imagine have to deal with that on a

1215
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 4: consistent daily basis.

1216
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: We had a surprise homecoming party. The only reason I

1217
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 1: say surprise because no one told us, but they all knew. Yeah, so.

1218
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 2: Two people show up, Hey, we're coming for the party here.

1219
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: It's like the Thursday before homecoming. We're coming for the

1220
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: party here. I'm like, all right, cool, whatever, we have

1221
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: maybe two bartenders. Well, so about forty minutes in, the

1222
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 1: bartenders like, hey, this party might be a thing.

1223
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 2: And like there's a lot of people come into this thing.

1224
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, cool, Well, let me see if

1225
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: you can find the organizer and let me figure it out.

1226
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 2: Let me try to call some staff to get in.

1227
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 1: Couldn't call staff again in I'm like okay, And I

1228
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: was at a different location. So it turns out one

1229
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty people show up to this homecoming party.

1230
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: Bartenders one just crashes out like she she just was

1231
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 1: not prepared for the house, the house homecoming and like

1232
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 1: everything that I.

1233
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 2: Didn't tails right, Like she just was not there.

1234
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: So people's drinks are taking a long time, etcetera, etcetera.

1235
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 1: So I had to stop. I was like, everybody stopped

1236
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: pouring everything right, Like, I was like, pour one hundred

1237
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:22,800
Speaker 1: and fifty shots.

1238
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 2: So we pour one hundred and fifty shots.

1239
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: We gave out shots to everybody at the bar, and

1240
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 1: I just I stopped. Everybody said, I just said, cut

1241
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: the music. I'm gonna make it another I was like,

1242
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 1: and I was like, guys, well, I really appreciate you

1243
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 1: guys being here if we were not prepared because we

1244
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,800
Speaker 1: did not know this party was coming in. So everybody

1245
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 1: bear with the service. This is not normally how we

1246
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 1: have to do business. I'm buying everybody a shot to

1247
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 1: bear with us. Thanks for coming, but we're not out

1248
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: of the woods yet. Hold on. And it was and

1249
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: I really was. I was preparing my skin to be

1250
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna get crucified for this ship. And they

1251
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: all clapped and uh so I talked to some people afterwards,

1252
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: like yeah, we just found out a Moraos guy was

1253
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: one of the owners here. We just wanted to come support.

1254
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 1: I was like, I really appreciated that.

1255
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 2: I'm thank you. Here's my number, please please please text me.

1256
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: So it's a flip side to it, too, right, like

1257
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 1: is you know like sometimes we eat you know, we

1258
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: have to eat that crow and stuff like that. And

1259
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: that was a really were people poured back into me, right, So,

1260
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 1: like I don't want people to think like it's so

1261
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 1: like done on a bar, like it sucks, and so

1262
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 1: it does a lot of it does, say but but

1263
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: you have these gems that kind of sustain you. And

1264
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: that was a really cool time. Whereas like they're like, no,

1265
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: like what you did was really honorable. Most most people

1266
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: don't take accountability for that stuff. And that's half the battle,

1267
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: is just like what you did, Like all right, I'll

1268
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: take accountability for it, Like not really my fault really

1269
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with me, but I gotta do

1270
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 1: it because like this is what you being in my

1271
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 1: establishment means to me, right like and that Yeah, and

1272
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:58,399
Speaker 1: we just if.

1273
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 2: You get enough of a team that thinks that way,

1274
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 2: then you could create some kind.

1275
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 3: Of successful absolutely. Man.

1276
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:08,760
Speaker 4: Well, Kim, look, this has been amazing therapy session slash podcast. Yeah,

1277
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 4: because one question I have for you before we ready

1278
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 4: to get out of here, man, is five years from now,

1279
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 4: ten years from now, you know, whether you're still at

1280
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 4: holiday or doing something else, Like.

1281
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 3: What's your end game?

1282
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 4: Where do you where do you want to go with

1283
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 4: all this stuff that you're doing, and based on everything

1284
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 4: you've worked on, like and kind of what do you

1285
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 4: see at whatever point that is in the future where

1286
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 4: you kind of evolve, Like what's your in game at all?

1287
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 1: Oh, I've had the same plan since I was like

1288
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: since I started in this industry.

1289
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 2: I'll look at the cameras.

1290
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: No, two years am out two years amount I'm going

1291
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: to open up a little sandwich shop, make sandwiches with

1292
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: my kid man, and just go be a dad somewhere.

1293
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: Know what. That's it. There's no get rich quick scheme.

1294
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 1: We've I'm not saying I'm out of the food and

1295
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: beverage industry altogether, right like, you know, maybe I sell,

1296
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 1: maybe I don't sell, or something like that, but yeah,

1297
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: you gotta have that exit playing. Yeah that's my that's

1298
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: my exit, playing my EJEC button thirty five. I'm out

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Speaker 1: serving shops and sandwiches, maybe off the belt line, maybe

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Speaker 1: in another country, and my little guy with me, and

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Speaker 1: then you know, that's it.

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Speaker 4: I always tell people when people ask me, I said,

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Speaker 4: I just want to open up a little snow cone

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Speaker 4: shop on the beach.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna call it Magic City.

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Speaker 4: For no apparent reason other than just the commers. We

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Speaker 4: just we're just gonna stell snow cones and ice cream

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Speaker 4: on the beach to like tourists, you know what I'm saying. Man,

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Speaker 4: And just be and just be eat seafood and just

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Speaker 4: be happy.

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Speaker 1: There's no one. I'll end it like this. There's the

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Speaker 1: most valuable asset that I had to learn that I

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Speaker 1: had was time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And once you've given up so much of your time,

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Speaker 1: people start. People go to college and then they go

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Speaker 1: to get their master's degree and they don't start their

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Speaker 1: industry until they're like twenty one, twenty two and stuff

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Speaker 1: like that. I've been in my industry for eighteen years.

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Speaker 1: That's birthdays missed, that's funerals missed. That's I missed my

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Speaker 1: own graduation because I was at work, right Like, So,

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Speaker 1: when you sacrifice that much, you gotta get it back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting it back. So that's that's it.

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Speaker 4: Well you can, man, we appreciate you pulling up. I

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Speaker 4: mean people know, but just in case, how do they

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Speaker 4: how do they find Holiday Bar? How can they come support?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? So Holiday Bar Holidays located at the interlock eleven

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Speaker 1: fifteen halmil Rope right there on the corner.

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Speaker 3: Can't miss it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, one sign says holiday, another size says bar.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, pull up on us seven days a week. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we have we have a good time if you if

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Speaker 1: you're able to stop me, I'm usually good for a

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Speaker 1: drink or too. Uh you know, so just be like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I heard the podcast and.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, pull up hey man, well cam Man, I appreciate

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Speaker 4: this has been a long time and to make it

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Speaker 4: with you man talking about this over drinks some of

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Speaker 4: these and many other things. Man, I'm glad again you

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01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 4: came in here and really just gave people honest of

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Speaker 4: you know, viewpoint of again it like really what it

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Speaker 4: really takes to kind of build something. And you know, man,

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Speaker 4: congratulations on all the success. I know you've poured a

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Speaker 4: lot of yourself into making this thing. It's fun, it's

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Speaker 4: an important part of Atlanta, man, so you should definitely

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Speaker 4: be proud of that.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I really appreciate you saying that absolutely. Man.

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Speaker 3: Well, with that said, that's the pod. Y'all on me out.

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Speaker 1: Cool.

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Speaker 4: You've been listening to buttteron Nomics and I'm your hosts

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Speaker 4: Brandon Butler. Got comments, feedback? Want to be on the show.

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Speaker 3: Buk bukutu