WEBVTT - Placing the Pieces - E10 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:06.240 Murder in Miami is a production of iHeartRadio previously on 0:00:06.400 --> 0:00:10.400 Murder in Miami. On June twentieth of nineteen eighty five, 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:14.160 drug smuggler Lamar Chester was killed in a plane crash 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:17.040 on his property in rural northern Georgia. 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:20.840 Lamar Chester died in a very strange plane crash. 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:23.680 And when you look back at a nonsensical really that 0:00:23.720 --> 0:00:26.480 they could have come to any sort of conclusions about 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:30.360 the cause of the crash in less than twenty four hours. 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:34.080 At the time, the initial explanation for the crash was 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:36.080 that the plane had run out of fuel. 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:40.960 One of their agents, Frank Baker Junior, was on the 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:44.120 scene almost immediately. He had to be there when the 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:48.720 plane went down. Among those who considered it more than 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:52.519 just suspicious was Lamar's best friend, Ron Elliott, who was 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:56.080 at the ranch at the Chicken Farm in North Georgia 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:57.520 the night before the crash. 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:01.760 Why wouldn't you have a coroner's a quest, particularly given 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:02.800 the circumstances. 0:01:03.320 --> 0:01:07.640 They wanted to see the body, and when they opened 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:12.560 the casket, the body had already been crea made. 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:16.800 So what happened to the plane? The wreckage? 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:21.000 The plane was gone and all that was left was 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:22.440 an oil spot on the floor. 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:37.280 Hello, Lauren, So I have an update. Okay, Detective Denmark 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:40.120 was able to track down Clay Williams medical records and 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:42.280 he actually has the file. 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:44.400 No kidding. What'd you find out? 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:49.440 Well? A lot more than expected. Turns out that we're 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:53.160 not the only ones who were interested in tracking down 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:53.720 that file. 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:57.520 Now that is interesting. Who I was cared about it? 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:08.600 Multiple government agencies, fill multiple ones. I'm Lauren brat Pacheco 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:12.160 and this is the final episode of Murder in Miami. 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:26.720 Six months after I'd submitted a formal request for information 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:30.200 regarding the murder of Clay Williams, Miami Dade cold case, 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:33.720 Detective David Denmark reached out with news he'd located the 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:34.560 medical report. 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:38.079 We always hope that we're going to find something in 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:42.200 it to be complete, but we understand when it's not 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:45.960 because of the workload that's put on each case. We 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:48.760 want to find everything, but if we can't, we'll take 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:52.639 any little piece of that case because then we can 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:55.800 explore a different avenue of that information we have, and 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:58.240 the medical examiner is one of those sources. But we 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:01.000 always hope to find the entire five and everything that 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:02.400 was put in there. 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:06.639 In this case, apparently we got lucky. Okay, Now, once 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:10.760 you got your hands on Clay Williams medical records, what 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:15.680 immediately popped out as useful for you pictures. 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:19.079 Pictures is huge. I would tell you it's in my opinion, 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:22.560 but I think a lot of other investigators want to 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:26.840 see what's going on. And you could study a picture 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:31.120 of pictures one hundred times, and every time you receive 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:35.000 information outside of those pictures, either from a file, a 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:39.320 piece of paper, a witness, anything that regards that case, 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:42.200 that picture changes for you. Where you were not looking 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:45.760 for something in the background, information by reviewing the file 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:48.560 may point your eyes in that direction, and now you 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:51.840 have a picture that contains a very important piece of evidence. 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:57.040 And so what kind of pictures were included in Clay's file? 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:01.920 Those were that of the landscape, which was a flooded 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:06.840 area beyond southwest two hundred and seventeenth Avenue, which is 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:11.320 way out west Everglades. Basically, it gives the waterways and 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:15.760 then it gives the horrifying look of a torsto that 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:20.279 has been mutilated by alligators and affected by the sun 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:27.280 and being decomposed. So those pictures bring all that to light, pictures. 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:30.040 That were likely the same one shown to Phil Stamford 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:31.000 in nineteen eighty one. 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:35.719 And again when you read it into someone's investigative rite up, 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:38.440 it's different when you're reading it and looking at the 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:42.080 picture that they're describing, because words can't describe what we 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:47.080 see and how bodies are mutilated and decomposed. The detective 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:50.640 does their best to point out injuries and possible injuries, 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:54.880 and in this case, the key thing is which brings 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:57.840 the medical examiner on board is that the detective will 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:01.560 point to puncture wounds in the sk of this person, 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:06.280 and we think, as investigators, gets a gunshot wounds, so 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:08.800 maybe this person was shot in the head, But the 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:12.560 medical examiner, being the people they are, say no, this 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:16.559 was actually puncture wounds from an alligator. Through that helps 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:18.560 out a lot, because now we know he wasn't shot 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:22.120 in the head. Those were alligator markings of the alligator 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:22.880 biting his head. 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:27.279 The file also contained a small clipping from the Sunday, 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:31.039 October fourth edition of the Miami Herald, under the headline 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:35.039 body found in flooded glades may be missing. Private detective 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:40.920 quote a mutilated, decomposed body discovered by Florida National Guardsmen 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:44.840 in a flooded East Everglades area maybe the remains of 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:49.400 a missing private detective, police said Saturday. There's no way 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:53.560 to recognize him, said Metro homicide detective John Parmenter. The 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:57.440 body was mutilated by alligators and probably run over by 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:02.039 trucks unquote. Article goes on to mention that the nude 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:04.480 body was found floating in two to three feet of 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:09.360 water by guardsmen while providing flood relief aid to residence. Initially, 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:12.200 they believed the body to be an animal carcass, but 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:16.960 upon closer inspection realized it was human. Quote. I think 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:21.200 he was killed and dumped, said Parmenter, though we may never, 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:24.960 because of the body's condition, be able to prove how 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:29.479 he was killed unquote. The article also mentions the remains 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:31.920 were believed to be those of a white man six 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:35.080 foot or taller, but that dental records would be utilized 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:38.479 to identify the victim and the possibility that it could 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:42.039 be a missing private detective. It concludes with the sentence 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:45.120 that quote police would not release the name of the 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:48.839 private detective unquote, but it would seem that by nineteen 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:52.479 eighty three, many others were aware of Clay William's name. 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:56.680 By reviewing the medical examined report, we found out that 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:59.560 there's at least four or five different agencies that were involved, 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:04.280 to include fd LEE, US customs Irs, Marshalls, and of 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:08.280 course Miami Dad or Metro daid back then, which will 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:13.280 always raise an eyebrow on the detective's part, actually everybody's part, 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:16.800 because they start understanding the amount of people and different 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:20.440 agencies that are involved. The medical exambler or someone that 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:23.280 was in control of that file would document as notes 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:27.320 came in and agencies were calling in and saying, hey, 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:30.560 you know what happened? Who is it? Is it probably identified? 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:34.600 This is something that definitely again raised another eyebrow that 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:39.160 who's inquiring, why are they inquiring and what kind of 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:43.560 information do they want? Something was special about this case. 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:45.920 You know, someone gets killed on the side of the road, 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:48.960 You're not going to have so many agencies looking into 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:51.480 it unless they were involved in something deeper that we 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:52.200 don't know about. 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:54.160 Here's Phil Stanford. 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:58.720 I think that it's because Leslie was talking to the 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:03.520 grand jury about and it looked like Clay's death might 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:08.960 be connected to Lamar and these agencies I had no idea. 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:11.680 There were so many of them wanted to get in 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:13.080 on it, see what was there. 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:17.840 Yeah, David Denmark said that as a detective, that raises 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:20.640 a lot of eyebrows, and suddenly this is much more 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:25.000 valuable and interesting than anybody thought. I'm going to turn 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:29.640 over everything that I've accumulated during the research of all 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:34.240 of this to the Miami Dade Cold Case Division. I 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:37.960 think that they will utilize it. They might be able 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:41.800 to close out the Clay Williams case based on what 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:46.920 we've uncovered, which would be closure to his family because 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:54.160 even if Chester wasn't personally responsible for the murder, he 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:56.920 was aware that it had happened, and looks like he 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:59.880 was aware that had happened before the body was even found. 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:02.480 Yeah, that's certainly a possibility. 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:07.720 A lot of that depends on Leslie's recollection of the dates, 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:10.480 and that's going to be hard for them to pin down. 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:13.640 But I know the family would like to know what 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:14.960 happened to Clay. 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:21.440 But if Leslie's recollection is accurate, it would support the 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:24.839 likelihood Chester and Bob Adams were aware of the murder 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:28.680 of Clay Williams before his body was even found. Which 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:32.960 adds additional weight to Phil's initial interactions with Bob at intercept. 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:36.440 Having an investigative reporter call and then show up in 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:39.480 person asking for a man they might have just gotten 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:43.240 rid of days after his murder would likely have been 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:49.920 rather unnerving, and given Phil's Washington slash political resume, possibly 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:53.800 played into their mistaken belief Phil was actually with the CIA, 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:58.040 speaking of which the number of agencies interested in the 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:02.360 autopsy of Clay Williams the number of agencies lamar Chester 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:06.320 claimed in the press to have worked with, including the CIA, 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:11.280 the DEA, US Air Force Intelligence, US Naval Intelligence, and 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:15.640 the Federal Bureau of Investigation. I did make a request 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:19.360 through the Freedom of Information Act slash Privacy Act inquiring 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:23.839 as to any files involving lamar Chester or Clay Williams. 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:28.560 The DEA determination letter I received back States regarding your 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:32.640 request for records on Baines, Clayton Williams, and Tilton lamar 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:35.960 Chester Junior. Please be advised that we have decided to 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:40.520 neither confirm nor deny the existence of such records, pursuant 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:44.040 to various exemptions that they go on to list and 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:47.720 stating that quote this is our standard response to such 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:51.160 requests and should not be taken to mean the records 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:54.959 do or do not exist. Unquote, in light of the 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:58.400 number of agencies interested in the autopsy of Clay Williams, 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:02.640 and agencies Chester had spoken on record about being involved with, 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:06.559 it's interesting to revisit the observation made by Clay's friend 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:09.040 Ted about the computers at Intercept. 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:15.240 He introduced me to Bob Adams and another fellow there, 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:20.160 and I had understood from Clay that these were former 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:25.679 intelligence people from the federal government, whether it's CIA, army intelligence, 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:29.400 and they had what I thought was an awfully large 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:33.440 computer setup. I just was impressed that such a small 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:37.440 office would have such a an enormous setup for computers. 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:40.040 I don't know what these guys accessed. 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:44.199 But the prosecutors in Operation Lone Star had a definite 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:47.880 theory Intercepts computers would pop up in the transcripts and 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:51.199 connection with the allegation that Chester might attempt to obstruct 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:56.280 their investigation, stating that quote, mister Chester and mister Adams 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:58.800 had discussed the purchase of a computer that would be 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:02.240 used to tap into their various federal law enforcement agencies, 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:07.360 and that such an advanced computer was apparently purchased for 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:13.120 fifty thousand dollars. Does the name Intercept strike you, particularly 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:16.520 since they all had such a sardonic sense of humor. 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:20.600 Do you think that that was just a random name 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:22.280 that they chose, or do you think there may have 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:26.040 been more behind the name Intercept Now looking back. 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:30.920 Oh, I think that they tried to pick a name 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:35.240 that made them sound competent and somewhat mys serious. I 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:37.560 don't see too much behind it. There may be, but 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:38.640 I don't know if there is. 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:41.960 I did think it was interesting, though, that the prosecution 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:47.880 at one point claimed that Chester and Adams were trying 0:12:47.960 --> 0:12:54.040 to break into other agencies computers to interfere with the investigation. 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:55.800 Oh, I'm sure they were. 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:58.160 I don't doubt that Bob was up trying to do 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:01.439 everything like he could find out about the investigation. 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:03.200 That's that's Bob. 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:17.760 Technology under understanding of its capabilities has obviously evolved, and 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:22.760 Happy Miles says, so has our views on drugs, especially cocaine, 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:27.480 which is why he've used his coconut grove smuggling days 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:30.400 as a bit more innocent than they may seem today. 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:35.679 Back in the seventies and mid seventies, cocaine was seen 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:40.760 in a different light. Cocaine wasn't the addictive drug that 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:44.200 we found it out to be. It was a high 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:49.520 end drug for high end earners. The people that were 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:55.640 using it were doctors, lawyers, businessmen, Wall street people. It 0:13:55.800 --> 0:14:00.679 wasn't looked like it is now. The laws were different 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:05.520 too back then as far as punishment went. In the beginning, 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:10.160 it was a different deal. And it was fifty thousand 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:15.520 dollars a key then now it's fourteen thousand dollars a key. 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:19.880 So you know, supply and the man, the supply is 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:25.320 so great thanks to the government and their effort on drugs. 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:28.200 And all you have to do is look how cricket 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:33.280 our government's gotten from where it was then it was 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:38.880 small agents and dea and everything that we're maybe trying 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:42.560 to make an extra buck. And what have you allowed 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:50.080 to go on which it has been corruption, corrupts, It 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:56.720 goes to unbelievable levels until it corrupts obsolute. We're almost 0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:59.880 at a point of no return, we really are. 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:02.960 You thought at one point there was a way to 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:04.760 shut it down. Do you think there's any way to 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:05.760 shut it down anymore? 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:07.240 Oh? 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:10.400 Then let her hercu leam cash it would be. 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:14.480 During the production of this podcast, I was able to 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:18.040 reconnect Happy with C. B. Hackworth, whose paths had not 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:21.960 crossed since their initial meeting at the Ritz Carlton, and 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:24.800 I'm happy to report that the two may collaborate on 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:29.280 assembling a collection of Happy's adventures during his Adventurers Club 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:31.280 and cartel days. 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:32.480 You're a good writer. 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:35.680 I love what I read all the articles in your 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:37.680 wrote back when, and. 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:39.680 I was impressed with them. 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:44.000 So yeah, I'm impressed by what I know of your 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:47.320 adventures and I'm looking forward to hearing more. I'm actually 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:48.480 ready to come out there. 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:52.480 So I've got to fence that'll write the forward to 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:53.560 this thing too. 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:59.520 Some of those stories will undoubtedly involve Happy's young protege 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:03.280 of sorts, Jack Devo. If you'll remember, Deveau is now 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:08.160 in witness protection but ended up testifying against Noriega. 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:14.520 Yep testsiflied before Congress with a hood in his face, Wow, 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:16.800 with the black hoodover's head. 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:22.000 In addition to Clay's murder and Chester's questionable crash, one 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:25.480 of the enduring mysteries in this Twisting Tail is the 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:28.920 identity of the informant who turned on Jack Devo. 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:33.400 Our greatest sale ever Newmark and Lewis's presidential recon. 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:36.320 We believe this ring is the largest cocaine trafficking ring 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:40.280 ever organized, said Robert Dempsey, Commissioner of the Florida Department 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:43.680 of Law Enforcement. The ring was responsible for flying fifteen 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:46.680 eight hundred and thirty seven pounds of high grade cocaine 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:49.400 with a street value of two point two billion dollars 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:52.720 into the United States between June nineteen eighty two and 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:54.200 November nineteen eighty three. 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:59.840 Happy Miles has long taken great offense at any innu 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:02.040 that he rolled on devot. 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:06.320 You gotta remember Jack and I were really good friends. 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:09.960 Jack didn't know who flipped on him and even asked 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:10.840 if you'd done it. 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:15.919 Oh yeah, Well, of course everybody thinks because of the 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:19.199 deal I ended up with, and I'm the guy that 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:23.679 rolled on everybody, which is in true. 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:28.200 During my research for this podcast, another former smuggler linked 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:31.840 to the Coconut Grove guys who wishes to remain unnamed, 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:36.040 sent me two extremely detailed Florida Department of Law Enforcement 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:40.239 logs from nineteen eighty three, detailing twelve cocaine trips from 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:44.879 departure the cocaine's origin, Columbia, sight of the offload, and 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:48.520 point of entry into the US. The level of detail 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:51.240 was so specific that when I ran them past Happy, 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:55.359 he assumed they must have come from Devout himself because 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:59.760 they contained information only someone with access to Ocean Reef, 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:02.480 the US point of entry for half of the trips 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:08.320 would have. You were also saying when we spoke about 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:11.520 the spreadsheet I sent you about the charges of the 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:13.000 different runs. 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:19.159 That had to be from a debrief of Jack Devo. 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:24.720 I'm sure because nobody would have had all that information. 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:27.320 It was just too detailed. 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:30.960 Ah, So you attribute all the information on that to. 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:34.639 Jack, I would say, so, yeah. 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:39.080 Yeah, because they certainly had everybody's names and all the details. 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:41.600 And they have the amount of the load where. 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:45.760 And so it could be because Chester shows up on 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:49.119 that list, but that's from nineteen eighty three, so he 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:52.560 was already being investigated before that. 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:53.679 Yeah. 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:58.199 Chester's name only appears once linked with Little Darby. But 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:01.480 my anonymous source added that quote all of the ones 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:05.159 stating Rudder cut Key were transported to the US via 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:10.000 Darby Island, unquote, accounting for another five trips six in total, 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:14.240 half of the twelve My source also mentioned Jack DeVoe 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:18.320 was trying to purchase the larger Darby Island from Chester. 0:19:19.119 --> 0:19:22.280 That would resonate more deeply a bit later, when I 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:25.359 read DeVoe's mention of it in his testimony before the 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:29.000 inquiry in the Bahamas on June twenty third of nineteen eighty. 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:34.639 Four, Lamar asked me he seemed to know about the trips. 0:19:35.240 --> 0:19:37.439 Would I like to buy big Darby Island. 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:39.919 DeVoe goes on to state that they settled on a 0:19:39.960 --> 0:19:43.560 purchase price of two million dollars and his down payment 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:44.760 made to Chester. 0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:47.439 I bought the island. I gave him a half a 0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:50.639 million dollars. I gave him several planes after that, and 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:53.359 more money and a couple of keys of coke, almost 0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:56.040 a million dollars over a period of time. It was 0:19:56.080 --> 0:19:58.520 not all done in a day. It started off with 0:19:58.600 --> 0:20:02.720 a half a million. Devout adds there was no paperwork. 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:06.840 It was a handshake, something he was comfortable with because. 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:09.080 We had known each other a long time and that 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:10.480 we trusted each other. 0:20:12.200 --> 0:20:15.920 Apparently, de Vaux was busted after that payment, but before 0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:20.320 the sale occurred, and the logs were actually used as 0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:24.840 evidence to indict Devout. All of which makes the tape 0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:28.719 you're about to hear even more telling. Here's Lamar Chester 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:32.080 proving his participation with the FEDS to C. B. 0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:35.800 Hackworth April. 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:40.240 In particular, starting in December, who were working in the 0:20:40.320 --> 0:20:42.200 Dragon podcast on Dark. 0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:47.720 These same agents were living on that I mean physically 0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:49.480 living there total every day for. 0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:50.679 Three weeks now. 0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:52.240 It's flat him back and forth to Miami. 0:20:52.840 --> 0:20:55.600 I think the first who of him, NASA wrote him down, 0:20:55.920 --> 0:20:58.080 got him set up. There was a lot of things 0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:02.240 that preceded that. We're not guns where they produced gruns, 0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:04.840 alphabolos or any other guns on many half done there 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:07.760 for their own protection, and then brought on some guns 0:21:07.760 --> 0:21:09.920 from Massaw that had to come from the embassy because 0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:12.000 it couldn't come through the custom. 0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:16.000 That Chester mentions he was working on the Jack Devau case. 0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:18.200 Who're working Jack Purcas. 0:21:18.119 --> 0:21:21.840 Makes Chester's acceptance of that million dollar down payment from 0:21:21.880 --> 0:21:26.080 Devout seem calculated, especially since the man he took it 0:21:26.119 --> 0:21:30.640 from ended up incarcerated before testifying against people like Noriega 0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:34.320 and apparently is now in the witness Protection plan. It 0:21:34.359 --> 0:21:36.879 also lends more weight to the comment on the Georgia 0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:40.960 Bureau of Investigations crash report that mentions Chester was quote 0:21:41.240 --> 0:21:45.960 rumored to be cooperating with authorities unquote. Here's Chester in 0:21:46.040 --> 0:21:49.680 his own words, speaking to C. B. Hackworth about assisting 0:21:49.920 --> 0:21:51.040 a task Force. 0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:54.680 Passport pace. 0:21:54.960 --> 0:21:58.080 Yeah, a drug enforcement for they assigned the pastor was 0:21:58.160 --> 0:22:01.919 hollow where signed passwork, and that's where I had been 0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:05.280 meeting them, meeting with them at task force headquarters and 0:22:05.440 --> 0:22:06.119 walking across the. 0:22:06.119 --> 0:22:10.920 Street to drug enforcement headquarters. Passports got out in commercial office. 0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:15.080 Building out in dot of Miami International Airport and right 0:22:15.160 --> 0:22:17.119 next to it is a new drug enforcement building and 0:22:17.280 --> 0:22:20.560 passports head like a huge ready room math you know, the. 0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:24.080 Huge ball chark radios. 0:22:23.400 --> 0:22:28.440 You know, all set up and rosters, games of desk 0:22:28.520 --> 0:22:31.760 in the main room, and then private offices for these guys. 0:22:31.640 --> 0:22:35.960 Each had a private office each other. That's the caliber. 0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:38.159 Good guys. 0:22:40.200 --> 0:22:43.600 Here's the response of mister Happy Miles to that audio. 0:22:44.920 --> 0:22:50.040 Let her up, Let her at Jack. If you're listening 0:22:50.080 --> 0:22:53.960 to this, number one, get a hold of them. And 0:22:54.119 --> 0:22:56.400 number two, if you want to know who the hell 0:22:56.440 --> 0:23:02.639 we're outed you out, it was Lamar. That's unreal. That's 0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:06.480 just totally unreal. How he's bragging them out, flying them 0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:10.679 back and forth and bringing them guns, and you know 0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:15.040 they needed guns on Darby like I need a hole 0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:19.960 in my head going after Jack. And then then to 0:23:20.040 --> 0:23:24.240 take a million dollars from the guy to sell them 0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:28.720 Darby when he knew he wasn't gonna sell it to 0:23:28.800 --> 0:23:33.680 him anyway, that he'd be going away for a long time, 0:23:33.960 --> 0:23:37.720 or let me cut a deal after doing eight and 0:23:37.760 --> 0:23:43.320 a half years and every rattle hell hole around the 0:23:43.440 --> 0:23:48.080 country testifying against two hundred and forty guys to get 0:23:48.080 --> 0:23:53.480 his freedom. Unbelievable, just unbelievable. 0:23:55.119 --> 0:23:59.160 The revelation also contradicted a sort of smuggler's code that 0:23:59.280 --> 0:24:02.000 Happy maintains. Set the Coconut Grove guys apart. 0:24:02.480 --> 0:24:05.080 We were in a different league. 0:24:05.240 --> 0:24:08.840 And maybe that fed into the icarous complex of flying 0:24:08.960 --> 0:24:12.440 too close to the sun. What was the mistake that 0:24:12.960 --> 0:24:14.240 Chester made. 0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:20.359 Well, not having any moral compass, not having any loyalty 0:24:20.680 --> 0:24:25.280 to everybody he was working with. It just shows who 0:24:25.320 --> 0:24:30.560 he was and you can't live that way. Everybody should 0:24:30.600 --> 0:24:33.200 have morals and integrity. 0:24:33.960 --> 0:24:38.879 Here's Phil Stanford's reaction. Now that it appears that Chester 0:24:39.240 --> 0:24:44.280 actually flipped on Jack Devo, Does that open up more 0:24:44.520 --> 0:24:49.359 questions than answers in terms of who possibly could have 0:24:49.480 --> 0:24:50.280 wanted him dead. 0:24:52.520 --> 0:24:56.720 The list keeps expending, doesn't it. I don't think that 0:24:57.000 --> 0:25:00.199 devote should be added to the list. But you you know, 0:25:00.240 --> 0:25:03.760 you've got, of course the obvious, the CIA. But then, 0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:08.520 as Trento writes in his book, there was a CIA 0:25:09.520 --> 0:25:13.719 outside the CIA, and I think that's actually where Lamar 0:25:13.960 --> 0:25:16.439 and Elliott came in. The same guys who were running 0:25:16.440 --> 0:25:20.080 the drugs and guns trade in Southeast Asia were transferred 0:25:20.160 --> 0:25:24.520 to Central America. In fact, Ron Elliott had contact with 0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:28.560 them in the Mid East, so they're part of the list. 0:25:28.600 --> 0:25:32.159 Then you have the mob. Chester had borrowed lots of 0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:35.080