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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Drive. I am Jaye LOLLI he is

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Speaker 3: the Matt Williamson, and well, Matt, We've now had a

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Speaker 3: couple of days to digest the schedule and everything about it,

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Speaker 3: and it still looks pretty difficult.

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Speaker 1: Still looks pretty difficult. Subject to change, of course. I mean,

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Speaker 1: nobody has the crystal ball, but it's the most difficult

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Speaker 1: schedule in the league, and those last act eight games

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Speaker 1: are far and away the most difficult in the league.

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Speaker 3: But the interesting thing about it, as I looked at it,

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Speaker 3: this is the first time in over twenty years that

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Speaker 3: a team won't play a divisional opponent until at least

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Speaker 3: week eleven.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't surprise me.

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Speaker 3: And it's the Steelers, and Steelers and Bears are both.

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Speaker 1: Doing that are as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, now Chicago also doesn't have you know, two

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Speaker 1: Sure tucked into that little stretch of schedule. NFC North

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Speaker 1: doesn't look bad. But either way, yeah, I mean, right,

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Speaker 1: that's it.

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Speaker 3: I mean to me, you know, if you just played

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Speaker 3: all your division games at the end, Okay, I get it,

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Speaker 3: it is what it is. But the fact that you

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Speaker 3: also put the Chiefs and the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: In that mix or in that mix, that eight games,

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Speaker 1: that's a lot. Yes, yeah, so those games obviously are

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Speaker 1: going to come down to who's playing the best, who's

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Speaker 1: the healthiest, all those things. But I think it's a

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Speaker 1: little not not even unfair. It's just six games that

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Speaker 1: mean more than the other games, all crammed into the

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Speaker 1: same area your schedule. I don't think that's a fair

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Speaker 1: should be spread out a little bit more. You know,

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Speaker 1: if it happens to be your month, that what Hayward,

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Speaker 1: if it happens to be the month the Chas and

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Speaker 1: it just is a little bit too much stock in

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Speaker 1: those games at all. At the same time, for my.

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Speaker 3: Liking, I will say this, you know, over the years,

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Speaker 3: Steelers kind of find ways to win in situations like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's like, oh my god, this is this is gonna

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Speaker 3: then you have the stumbles like they did last year,

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Speaker 3: they played pretty well.

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Speaker 1: And I kind of thought the same thing too, Like

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Speaker 1: you start playing playoff football the last six or last

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Speaker 1: eight games of the year, and you're not gonna win

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Speaker 1: them all, I'm sure, but this, this team, and this

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Speaker 1: head coach and this organization seems to do that better

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Speaker 1: than most. Yeah, And that being said, you better put

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Speaker 1: a little bit of hay in the bar in early though.

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Speaker 1: I mean you can't. It's not even like can't trip

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Speaker 3: That, win as many games as we know Washington game too,

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Speaker 3: And you know it's that way. We knew this was

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Speaker 3: We knew it was going to be a difficult schedule.

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Speaker 3: But you know, just looking at where some of those

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Speaker 1: To ball of them all on one spot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, now you know that being said, I

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Speaker 1: I think that's the best spot you could get them.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think last time we got together, the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you just don't know. And that's the thing, you know,

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Speaker 3: You know what what do expects from Aaron Rodgers? Really?

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Speaker 1: he did a chart of who has the hardest five games,

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Speaker 3: The one thing I do like about this schedule for

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Speaker 1: Go to Vegas and after that, and you're gonna be

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Speaker 3: After that everything's basically they're not all bus rides, but

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Speaker 1: These all places you would drive if you're not on

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Speaker 3: So, I mean, that works out well for them. To

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Speaker 1: You don't think along road trip wears on you, right.

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Speaker 3: And I honestly, I still believe, and I know the

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Speaker 1: for all the rookie starters, he's going to have months

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Speaker 3: They'll throw You know what teams do during the offseason

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Speaker 3: is they They don't say that they're preparing for the opener, but.

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Speaker 3: Why would you not you're you start putting a little

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Speaker 1: I mean, don't you think. Don't think for one second

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Speaker 3: We don't know a how much Kirk Cousins is going

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Speaker 1: to the Denver Knicks thing. Nix may be fine, it

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Speaker 3: But I would imagine he plays a lot in the preseason,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know that works out well. And they've

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Speaker 1: And I'm Tomlin and Peyton know each other really well. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have no idea. I mean to me that

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Speaker 1: It's been a long time, right, at least he's done the.

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Speaker 3: Interim in twenty twenty in Atlanta. Before that, he had

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Speaker 1: So we talked about this Wednesday. Like I always look

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Speaker 1: And the new head coaches on the Steelers staff are

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Speaker 1: I'm sure over the last ten years he's been taking notes.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back. I am Dale Lollly. He is the Matt

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Speaker 3: Williamson and Matt I'm looking here at another Marcus story.

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Speaker 3: Busy the thirty third team. Yeah, he's very busy here.

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Speaker 3: He has gone through and he's predicting every team's win

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Speaker 3: He's got them coming in at ten and seven. So

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Speaker 1: I think I would lean towards under. As it stands today,

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Speaker 3: The Dolphins over under his nine and a half. He

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, New England. The over under is four and

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Speaker 1: I mean, I do think their defense is a chance

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Speaker 3: He has them at seven and ten.

438
00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:03,439
Speaker 1: I don't see it.

439
00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,119
Speaker 3: You get two against Denver.

440
00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:06,920
Speaker 1: I know, two against the Charger it could be three

441
00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:07,760
Speaker 1: and one three three.

442
00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,280
Speaker 3: You could be four and oh against those.

443
00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,520
Speaker 1: Teams, you could. I just don't like their quarterback situation

444
00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:12,879
Speaker 1: at all.

445
00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:14,560
Speaker 3: Oh either, but they've got.

446
00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,240
Speaker 1: Especially if they go with O'Connell. They got weapons, though

447
00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,400
Speaker 1: they do the line's a little better. I'm not big

448
00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,240
Speaker 1: on the d like if I don't think to coach at.

449
00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:30,080
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes, the Raiders weapons, Adams and Bowers and mayors

450
00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,000
Speaker 3: and liked be pretty good.

451
00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,439
Speaker 1: It's better than the Chiefs. With all respect to Kelsey

452
00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,440
Speaker 1: at this but at his stage of his career, Kelsey's

453
00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,840
Speaker 1: not loging the same snaps as those guys either. You know.

454
00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,680
Speaker 1: They save him for the good times. So yeah, you're right.

455
00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:45,680
Speaker 1: I'll still take the under on the Raiders, though, Okay,

456
00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,160
Speaker 1: I'm not big on the coach or trust the organization either.

457
00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,400
Speaker 3: Somehow, the Chargers over under is eight.

458
00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:51,760
Speaker 1: I know it's way high.

459
00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,600
Speaker 3: Flipping a half eight and a half.

460
00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,119
Speaker 1: Are you ezy under to me?

461
00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got seven and ten. I don't even know

462
00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:57,919
Speaker 3: if they get seven.

463
00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:03,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, for this exercise to drift more than

464
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,919
Speaker 1: half a game off the line is pretty far, so

465
00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,080
Speaker 1: he probably feels pretty strong about the under having them

466
00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,760
Speaker 1: at seven rights. And I feel real strong about the under.

467
00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:13,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, yeah, they're not gonna be a good team.

468
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,400
Speaker 1: No, I mean that they have the same arguments as

469
00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,399
Speaker 1: the Broncos and Raiders though that you would hope they

470
00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:23,520
Speaker 1: win two games in the division. But after that, I

471
00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:24,959
Speaker 1: think they're pretty easy to play against.

472
00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,520
Speaker 3: And they got a bunch of guys, particularly on defense,

473
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:28,480
Speaker 3: who can't stay healthy.

474
00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,119
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, big contract guys, you can't.

475
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 3: Stay healthy, can't stay healthy. Looking over at the NFC

476
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,520
Speaker 3: Cowboys over under ten and a half, he's got him

477
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:39,200
Speaker 3: at ten and seven.

478
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,760
Speaker 1: He's actually a big Cowboys guy. He hosts Locked on Cowboys.

479
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,440
Speaker 1: That's his team. Me too. I just didn't see enough

480
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:47,760
Speaker 1: of improvement.

481
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:48,840
Speaker 3: They didn't do anything to improve this.

482
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's a good team. I might pick

483
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:51,720
Speaker 1: them within the division.

484
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,320
Speaker 3: They might have taken a step back.

485
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,720
Speaker 1: If you don't improve, it's like a sharkos off swimming,

486
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, like.

487
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:57,920
Speaker 3: Who's running the ball for him?

488
00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,560
Speaker 1: Right? They may find somebody like they've been linked to,

489
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 1: like Damian Pierce, or you could trade for Khalil Herbert,

490
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,560
Speaker 1: but that doesn't make you better.

491
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 3: No, the Giants over under six and a half. He's

492
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 3: got them at six and eleven.

493
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 1: I do too.

494
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,439
Speaker 3: That was such a blip, yes on the screen two

495
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 3: years ago, like, yeah, just here's here's the Giants, a

496
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 3: nice steady stream of five wins, five six wins, and

497
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,960
Speaker 3: then they win ten and then they're back down to.

498
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,679
Speaker 1: Hire a coach. He wins Coach of the Year. This

499
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:29,920
Speaker 1: guy's got it all figured out.

500
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

501
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 1: My favorite thing they did, though, is now they actually

502
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,199
Speaker 1: have a real offensive line. I mean their inability to

503
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:40,360
Speaker 1: block last year them in Tennessee, I thought were just crippling. Yeah,

504
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 1: at least you'll have a chance. There's still a weapon,

505
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,160
Speaker 1: two weapons short, yeah, offense and maybe a quarterback.

506
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,880
Speaker 3: The Eagles over under ten and a half. He's got

507
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,399
Speaker 3: them at twelve and five.

508
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:56,880
Speaker 1: So well over and lean towards over. I mean they

509
00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,080
Speaker 1: finished so miserably though, really bad. Yeah. I mean I

510
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 1: think their coaches on the hot seat. Yeah, uh hurts either.

511
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 3: No, Washington over under six and a half. He's got

512
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 3: them at six six and eleven.

513
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,199
Speaker 1: I'm under on six and a half. I mean, I

514
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 1: love what their offseason did. I mean, let's start to build,

515
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 1: but they still need an offensive line. Their edge pass

516
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 1: rushers aren't very good. You know, it's a rookie quarterback.

517
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:21,920
Speaker 1: He could be great. He could be a Rookie of

518
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 1: the Year. I don't know if they'll get seven wins.

519
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. Moving on to the NFC North, the Chicago Bears

520
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 3: over under is eight and a half. Yeah, I would

521
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 3: go under that. He's prediction is eight and nine. They're

522
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,959
Speaker 3: the third best team in that division at best.

523
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,400
Speaker 1: I really liked what their defense did in the second

524
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 1: half of the season, but they played a really easy slate.

525
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

526
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,440
Speaker 1: I just think all rookie quarterbacks are going to struggle.

527
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 1: They went. They may get two wins in the division,

528
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 1: maybe one.

529
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 3: You know, nobody's talking about Caleb Williams. Well, yes, he's

530
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 3: from Washington, d C. He played at Oklahoma. He played.

531
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 3: He didn't seem whether like he's going to see in Chicago.

532
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: No, No, I mean that's a real hard adjustment for anybody. Right,

533
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 1: I'm on the under with that too. I think people

534
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: were just a little too excited about the rookies and

535
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,120
Speaker 1: the big golf season moves.

536
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Lions over under ten and a half.

537
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 1: Almost sure. A head coach for the Bears. Is all

538
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 1: that great? Yeah? You know who what was that one?

539
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,640
Speaker 3: Ten and a half for the Lions. He's got them

540
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:24,880
Speaker 3: at eleven and six.

541
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 1: Pretty comfortable on the over with that too. Yeah.

542
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 3: They're good FOOTBA team.

543
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 1: They're good football team. They are good in the trenches

544
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: and go stand injury or two dome.

545
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 3: You know, No, I like I saw a thing they play.

546
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 3: I think it's eleven of their first twelve games or

547
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 3: in domes this year.

548
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 1: I think I saw that too, which I went golf

549
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 1: in fantasy. I mean right bonkers, right, yeah, And I

550
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 1: think they're okay to go outside in Chicago late in

551
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 1: the season or Green Bay.

552
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 3: You know, green Bay over under ten and a half.

553
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 3: He's got them at ten and seven. That might be

554
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:58,880
Speaker 3: a team that takes a slight step back.

555
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,920
Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking, too, is like they're so young,

556
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 1: we just assume every one of those players are gonna

557
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 1: get better. They're not one. You know, Watson might rebound huge,

558
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: but Wicks will go back and level will go the same,

559
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, And I don't know

560
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:12,640
Speaker 1: if that gets you to eleven.

561
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you. Uh, Minnesota over under his six

562
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 3: and a half he's got them at six and eleven.

563
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 1: Division's not great for them. Well, how long is Darnald

564
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,160
Speaker 1: going to play? I still think they can sweet seven

565
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: out of there. I'd probably go over. It's a good line.

566
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 3: They stay competitive last year with a ridiculous quarterback rotation.

567
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think they're well coached on both

568
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 1: sides of the ball. Donald might be fine. I mean

569
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: we may not even see McCarthy, Jefferson, Hawk, o'lon's okay,

570
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones, you know, Okay.

571
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 3: Moving on to the NFC South, Atlanta's over under his

572
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 3: nine and a half.

573
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 1: He's got them and their schedule's really easy.

574
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 3: But he got them at nine and eight. Yeah, their

575
00:24:58,400 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 3: schedule was easy last year too.

576
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean they're good. It doesn't mean they're gonna

577
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: beat them all. A lean towards under I mean, I.

578
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 3: Mean, does anybody in that division win more than nine games?

579
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: That's what I say. I mean, I don't know that

580
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 1: Carolina will win many division games, but the other three might.

581
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 3: All have four wins, all beat each other.

582
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 1: Right, right, No one's gonna go six and oh or

583
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 1: oh and six of those other three. Yeah, I kind

584
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: of lean towards under do we really think her cousin's

585
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: gonna play seventeen games too? No? Yeah, I mean no.

586
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 1: They drafted Pinnix for a reason.

587
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 3: Right, Hey, what surprised me?

588
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 1: If Penis is starting the opener and then it's so hairy?

589
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: What if he's good? Gave a guy ninety million or

590
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 1: whatever to be your backup? Yeah, I guess a good

591
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 1: problem to have.

592
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 3: But man, uh, Carolina over under four and a half.

593
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 3: He's got them at five and twelve the division.

594
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: They'll probably get one or two in the division. You

595
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: would think I'm gonna lean towards under though I think they're.

596
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 3: I think they're better.

597
00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 1: I think they're better. I don't love the quarterback, the offense.

598
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 3: Will they melted around them? Can they win three more

599
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 3: games than they did last year? That's the question.

600
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 1: That's a question. They might be my front runner to

601
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 1: pick first overall, but they're not. I might pick New England,

602
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: and New England's not strong on that list too, because

603
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: their schedules a lot harder than the Carolinas too. This

604
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: haven't picked many unders, right, you know, I think their

605
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 1: defense went backwards. Their offense went big step forward, but

606
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: it was the worst offense in the league. Right. I mean,

607
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: if they can get the twentieth best offense, then you

608
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: got a shot.

609
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 3: Uh, New Orleans over under a seven and a half.

610
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 3: He's got them at six and eleven.

611
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 1: I think they get to eight.

612
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 3: Mm.

613
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, one these wee years, they're gonna bought them out

614
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 1: and get the first pick of the draft. And it

615
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 1: could be this year, could be this year. And I've

616
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: thought that for three years, and.

617
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 3: It might behoove them to do that. This show.

618
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: I think it'd be good for them. Yeah, like trade

619
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 1: the Latimar's and ramchecks and bottom out and draft the

620
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,919
Speaker 1: top quarterback and dump car for a fourth round pickers

621
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 1: and really start over. I just think they hang around

622
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 1: and hang around a year after year.

623
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 3: Though, Tampa Bay over under is eight and a half,

624
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 3: the prediction is nine and eight.

625
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: Kind of the same Atlanta conversation. Yeah, do you trust

626
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: the Falcons more than the Bucks? They're the same to me.

627
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: I think they're both.

628
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 3: Think all those teams, all those teams stink.

629
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think too. I think the Steelers win twelve

630
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: games in that division. Yeah, you know, if they're pull

631
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 1: the Falcons out, put the Steelers.

632
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 3: Their easy the favorite, the favorite to win that division

633
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 3: by two or three games.

634
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you get to play six of those

635
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: games against those teams as opposed to Ravens and Browns

636
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 1: and Bengals, Yeah, absolutely, Yeah. I don't think there's any

637
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: contenders there.

638
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 3: Moving on to the NFC West Arizona over under six

639
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 3: and a half, the prediction is seven and ten.

640
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: They've got a lot out of a really bad roster

641
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: and a compromised Kyler Murray who didn't even start the season.

642
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: I'll go over. It's a good number.

643
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 3: That's a good number.

644
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if they'll get the eight. Nine.

645
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 3: It's a tough division.

646
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's at six and a half, right, yeah, yeah,

647
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: I think they get the seven.

648
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 3: The Rams over under eight and a half.

649
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 1: I lean towards over, but I think the defense takes

650
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:15,959
Speaker 1: a big step backwards Without Donald.

651
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 3: The prediction is nine and eight.

652
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: I'll go over. I think the offense is good, yeah,

653
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: and I think lose Moore so too. Yeah, yeah, I

654
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 1: think the defense is in trouble.

655
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. San Francisco's over under eleven and a half. The

656
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 3: prediction is twelve and five.

657
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: So they're the only team right now that is favored

658
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Speaker 1: in every game. Like I think you can go bet

659
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Speaker 1: week fifteen nine ers verus whoever. Oh, it's insanity to me,

660
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: but I guess they are favored in every game. M

661
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: not lean towards over.

662
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

663
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't do a lot either, and I don't

664
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Speaker 1: think that's a bad thing.

665
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just goes to show you though they're favored

666
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Speaker 3: in every game.

667
00:28:58,600 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 3: The prediction is twelve and five.

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00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: Right, right, I mean so five of those they're wrong.

670
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: Somebody's wrong, right, someone's really wrong. Yeah, not like kind

671
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: of wrong, like thirty five percent wrong or whatever.

672
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 3: Seattle's over under seven and a half. The prediction is

673
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 3: seven and ten.

674
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: I think they go backwards this year, and I think

675
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: everyone's fine with it. And it's a rebuild year, and

676
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: I think is.

677
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 3: New head coach has yeah, some leeway.

678
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: Do things different things. If it ends up and losses,

679
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: we can live with that for a year. Maybe getting

680
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: the top ten and draft of quarterback and build it

681
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: that way. Yeah yeah, I mean six, a six win

682
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: season wouldn't be terrible for them.

683
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 3: That brings us to the AFC North and it's gonna

684
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 3: be you know. So leading off here Baltimore, the over

685
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 3: under is eleven and a half. His prediction is ten

686
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Speaker 3: and seven.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's gonna be tough to get to

688
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Speaker 1: the twelve.

689
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't see them getting the twelve.

690
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Speaker 1: I mean all these I mean twelve is a big number.

691
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: I mean their their schedule is really hard to begin with.

692
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: All these schedules are gonna be really hard. But they

693
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: could end up in a hole. I don't think their

694
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Speaker 1: depth is quite as strong as it was eleven hast

695
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Speaker 1: Rush coming from Yeah, yeah, and you lost both he

696
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: lost the eight coordinator, right, you know, and outside the

697
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,719
Speaker 1: ball too. Yeah, I think they're don't get the twelve.

698
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 3: Uh, Cincinnati's over under ten and a half. The prediction

699
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Speaker 3: is ten and seven.

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Speaker 1: I'm with ten and seven.

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Speaker 3: I might go over on them. I think they get

702
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Speaker 3: to eleven. I'm gonna I think. I think I'm gonna

703
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Speaker 3: pick them to win the division.

704
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Speaker 1: All right, they don't have a lot of holes. I

705
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: don't love their head coach, which sounds stupid, because he

706
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: wins a lot of games.

707
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 3: It was he won a lot. He's won a lot

708
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Speaker 3: of games since he got Joe Burrow. Yes, when he

709
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 3: doesn't have Joe Burrow, he doesn't win as many games.

710
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: You're right, I think that's a really good line. I

711
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: would not touch that one.

712
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Cleveland over under eight and a half. He's picking

713
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Speaker 3: nine and eight.

714
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go under. But eight and nine, yeah, I

715
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: mean we're splitting hairs here, you know. But the quarterback

716
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: situation is a mess.

717
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 3: I don't trust them at all.

718
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: No. I think he's a good head coach, but I

719
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: don't think they're a great organization.

720
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 3: He better be a good head coach. He's one Coach

721
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 3: of the Year twice, twice without winning the division, right,

722
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 3: tough to. I mean they won one playoff game. He

723
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 3: wasn't even on the sideline.

724
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: Anythink of that. That's what I just don't trust their

725
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: quarterback situation. I'm gonna go under, and.

726
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 3: The Steelers over under is eight and a half.

727
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: I think they get the nine.

728
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 3: Marcus Mosher's prediction ten and seven.

729
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: Right, I see it. I mean how many times they

730
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: have to go over five hundred to not bet that?

731
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. Yeah, you know what I mean?

732
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 3: You see what it come out. It's seven and a half,

733
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 3: eight and a half, Like, come on, right, right, It's

734
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 3: just like if you bet, if you did that every year,

735
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 3: sure for the last twenty years, you've won money.

736
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Speaker 1: You've won money, and we know that's not how betting works.

737
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: They just want fifty percent of us to bet over

738
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: and fifty percent of us to bet under. You know,

739
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: that's all they care about. But that's the public thought

740
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: on this team though. Yeah, and I think their total

741
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: has gone ups. Yeah, the draft there so recently, they've.

742
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 3: Had a great offseason. You could make the argument that

743
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 3: they've improved more than any team in the league.

744
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: Certainly anymore.

745
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 3: They're certainly in the top five in terms of overall improvement.

746
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: Especially if you do coordinators and quarterback. Yeah.

747
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, just across the board.

748
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: I thought you're gonna say in the division, because I

749
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: think they clearly the most.

750
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 3: Clearly the most improved in the division. But I'm talking

751
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 3: over all the entire league. I know everybody's talking about

752
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 3: your cargo, talking about Washington, but.

753
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: Like Washington and Arizona, Yeah, so bad. I mean that

754
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: you go to from four wins to six.

755
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 3: We're talking about a ten win team that got better.

756
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: Put it this way, did any playoff team get better

757
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: than the Steelers? I would lean towards no.

758
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, just running through Houston, maybe Houston, maybe Houston. That

759
00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 3: would be an argument Okay, I can't think of any others.

760
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, anybody in the North Bears didn't even go green

761
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: Bay looks a little better.

762
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 3: Maybe a Detroit should be better.

763
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: Maybe Lions. Yeah, so I mean of the teams that

764
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: didn't go from garbage to maybe Meetia, maybe the.

765
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 3: Eagles with the two cornerbacks that they drafted.

766
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: Two coordinator changes to Yeah. Yeah, And if I were them,

767
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: I'd be happy. I have Kenny Pickett behind hers right now.

768
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I still I still feel better about what

769
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 3: the Steelers did. I'd still take what the Steelers have

770
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 3: done this offseason in terms of overall improvement over those teams.

771
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,959
Speaker 1: Yeah. Right, in the same neighborhood doan, But those are

772
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: the best teams in the elite. That's who you want

773
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: to be talking with.

774
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. So yeah, over they get to ten and seven,

775
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 3: looking at what everybody else's records are here, they're playoff team.

776
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would think ten gets you in.

777
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, so find a way to get to ten.

778
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and if you need.

779
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 3: Eleven, find a way to get to eleven.

780
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,479
Speaker 1: In depth analysis.

781
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 3: There absolutely that's what you come here for. Anyways. That

782
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 3: was Marcus Mosher's predictions on the thirty third team. We'll

783
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 3: take another look at this from a different angle. Here

784
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 3: Cynthia Freeland has heard local projections.

785
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 1: He is doing all math, all the time, all the maths.

786
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 3: She ran one hundred and fifty thousand projections. We'll do

787
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Speaker 3: that in the next hour. We'll be back with more.

788
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807
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Speaker 3: over there and go check it. They rotate that stuff

808
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Speaker 3: hit through there too. There's it's just not the same

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Speaker 3: thing every time.

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Speaker 1: It's been a while since I've been there. I've only

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Speaker 1: been there once. I'm sure it looks a lot different.

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Speaker 1: I need to get back there.

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Speaker 3: We need to do a show over there again.

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Speaker 1: You another that was fun?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely? Uh speaking of which next week, of course

816
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Speaker 3: Ota starts. Typically we would be doing our shows over

817
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Speaker 3: there from Otash, but there's some construction going on at

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Speaker 3: the Steelers at the up mc rooney Sports Complex right.

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Speaker 1: Now, and uh, well anywhere for us to set up.

820
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're not gonna do it. We're not going to

821
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Speaker 3: do that. There'll be a lot of banging around and

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00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 3: things of that nature. They're always doing something over there

823
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Speaker 3: in the off season to fix some things.

824
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Speaker 1: I think we're gonna give you two drives early in

825
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: the week, right, I think it's a plane.

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Speaker 3: We'll do Monday Wednesday and then uh yeah, no show

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Speaker 3: on Friday.

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Speaker 1: Cool.

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00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 3: But anyways, so if you missed our show on Wednesday night,

830
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Speaker 3: for the schedule release.

831
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Speaker 1: You for six weeks.

832
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 3: But yeah, you know, Omar Khan came on with us

833
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 3: Feeler's GM and Mike Pursuda asked him about the situation

834
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 3: with Cam Hayward and Nausee Harris, right, okay, because we

835
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 3: hadn't talked to him, and I thought it was interesting

836
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 3: that Con said that, I can tell you we think

837
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 3: the world of Cam, I think the world of nause

838
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 3: We're decided about having them as part of the team,

839
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 3: not only this year, but in the future. We really

840
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 3: have a lot of respect for both of those guys.

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00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: Okay, not just this year, yeah, but in the future. Yeah.

842
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: And they usually don't mince words with these type of

843
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: things with especially guys that they respect, have been in

844
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: the building, have gone to battle with over and over,

845
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: you know that are foundational type pieces. Basically say, and

846
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: we'll probably get something done. We're going to try to

847
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 1: get some mutual interest here. So I was thinking about

848
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: this actually on the way here that I kind of

849
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: a crazy idea I wanted to run by you along

850
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: these lines, like I would strongly consider and I think

851
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 1: they will add another year to camp, maybe even two. Okay, great,

852
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: I think you add another year to nausey make it

853
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: a pretty player friendly deep you know, I mean a

854
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: little different than obviously the fifth year option. I think

855
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 1: you extend Friarmouth. Yeah, you know sometime before the season

856
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: that could that could go into camp or whatever. And

857
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: none of these things are shattering great contract moves here, Williamson.

858
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: But here's the one that I'm kind of interested in.

859
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I wanted to run it by you on

860
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: the air. What if you went to Justin Fields and said,

861
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Speaker 1: we want to put one more year on your deal.

862
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: And here's how the conversation goes, is Justin you were

863
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: on the market for a while, the league showed minimal interest.

864
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: We were able to pry you away from your old

865
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: team that we don't think treated you particularly well for

866
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Speaker 1: what we think is a steal. But the facts are

867
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Speaker 1: were we paid more than anybody else would. We don't

868
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Speaker 1: know if you're gonna start one game for us this year,

869
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Speaker 1: sixteen zero three, whatever, but we're super excited about you.

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Speaker 1: We're not real comfortable not having a quarterback under contract.

871
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Speaker 1: I can't promise you anything. I can't promise you a

872
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Speaker 1: starting job. I can't promise you a thing. How about

873
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Speaker 1: we give you ten million for twenty twenty five. I'm

874
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Speaker 1: not even sure what the number is. You have a

875
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Speaker 1: little stability, You can look at yourself as a two

876
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: year stealer and we can just buy ourselves a little

877
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: bit of time. What do you think about that? Justin

878
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: I can't have a ten million because it was more

879
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: than they gave Mitch, you know, in a different situation,

880
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 1: but as a high end backup plus he got like eight.

881
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 3: Okay, So Jordan Love last year signed an extension that

882
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 3: pays him ten to five this year year.

883
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're gonna have to extend him soon.

884
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 3: They're gonna have to extend him because he's only signed

885
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 3: for this year. Now they have three voidable years.

886
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: This happened before he became their starter, I mean, and

887
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: it's sort of the same thing because what happened with

888
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: Love is they did not pick up his fifth year option,

889
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: correct because he had no playing time, like no resume.

890
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: But they've been with the kid for three years at

891
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: that point and then quickly gave him this deal. Yeah,

892
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 1: and then they're gonna have to revisit it at golf

893
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: like prices now soon. But that's what you want. If

894
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: hear the pack, right, If he hit. I mean, if

895
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 1: it had been terrible, it would have cost you a little.

896
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 1: But there's a little risk here.

897
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 3: So for love it was one year, thirteen and a

898
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 3: half million dollars.

899
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: I'm in the neighborhood, then, I didn't think of that

900
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: as a jumping off point. But if I'm Fields, I

901
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,919
Speaker 1: like that stability. I mean, has everything gone well since

902
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: the day you traded for him?

903
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 3: Would you go two years, twenty million dollars?

904
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: Maybe if I knew I could get out of the

905
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: next one. And I mean there's a chance you want

906
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: to give sixty to dak next year? Correct, you know

907
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: what I mean? And you don't want eighty in your room,

908
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: you know, right? But we're not far off. I mean

909
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: I come to the table with these numbers.

910
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 3: I just have a problem doing that without having been

911
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 3: in the building very much with the guy. Yeah, and

912
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,959
Speaker 3: everything that I've heard about Hit, Justin Fields has been great.

913
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 3: Nobody in Chicago says he was a bad guy or

914
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 3: a locker room cancer or anything. In fact, the exact opposite.

915
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: It's true, and the same was true at Ohio State.

916
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: And they've done a lot of work on this player, obviously,

917
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: going back to before he was even drafted.

918
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 3: But I can't go past. I can't get past if

919
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 3: Kenny Pickett doesn't force his way out of town. Justin

920
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 3: Fields isn't a Steeler right now.

921
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: I don't think he would be right.

922
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 3: Right, They were content, they wanted it. They wanted it

923
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 3: to be Russell Wilson and Kenny Pickett, until Kenny Pickett

924
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 3: said no, I don't want to be the I want

925
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 3: to be in pole position. Yeah, and no, that wasn't

926
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 3: going to be the case.

927
00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: And doesn't mean they disliked Fields and settled for him, right,

928
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 1: They just were happy with their guy that they had drafted.

929
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: You know, I would like to add one year to it,

930
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: not too.

931
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 3: I understand, Yeah, I mean I can.

932
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: I can certainly like I'll take my chances on becoming

933
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: a free agent after twenty twenty five season. I might.

934
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 3: I might wait to do something like that until I

935
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 3: see what he looks like in training camp. Good call, Yeah,

936
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 3: I want to see Yeah, there's no I mean, you

937
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 3: got you get a month of training camp to look

938
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 3: at the guy, see him playing some preseason games. Yeah,

939
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 3: he said, hey, look we're going to talk to you

940
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 3: here at some point. You know, he can lay the

941
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 3: groundwork for anything. Yeah, but I just can't do it

942
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 3: until I actually see him perform.

943
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: It's a good way of putting it, at least having

944
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: in the back of my mind, you know that, Yeah,

945
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: let's do let's at least throw some football.

946
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 3: I want to see. I want to see how the

947
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:48,439
Speaker 3: team reacts to him.

948
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: How before preseason game one? But like you might be like,

949
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: we got something here, yeah, you know, and let's buy

950
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: a year to bet on it. It was interesting and

951
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: I knew all this, but I was listening to a

952
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: podcast this morning and Adam Rank was on. It's frankly

953
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 1: not my favorite. He's okay, I mean he's not somebody

954
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 1: I listened to regularly, I'll put that way. But he's

955
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: a huge Bears fan. And he went through the details

956
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 1: like we would with our favorite team of the Fields era,

957
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: and it just made me think, Wow, did they do

958
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 1: him wrong? You know, like even when they drafted him,

959
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: they signed Andy Dalton and said you're the starter. They

960
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: were comparing it to the Caleb Williams situations. No one's

961
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: in the room. Compared with Williams, they brought Fields and

962
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 1: basically said, we don't even think you can beat out

963
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton, who wasn't good and the best thing they

964
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: gave him was a semi washed up Alan Robinson and

965
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: then just you know, bad system after bad system, Like

966
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: he didn't have Keenan Allen and DJ Moore and then

967
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: they just kept changing things on him all the time.

968
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't know if who ever hit

969
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: he has faults, there's no doubt, but I'd like to

970
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: have him back next year.

971
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 3: To see I mean, I love Justin Field's coming out.

972
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know, we both liked him.

973
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 3: I had a right there with with Trevor Lawrence in

974
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 3: terms of overall talent, and he does have talent. Yeah,

975
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 3: you know, it's just a matter of can you can

976
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 3: you build the system around him in the NFL to

977
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 3: make it work?

978
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: I know? And do you want to? Right, that's that's

979
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: the thing you want to you can, But is that

980
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: the best way to win football games for a decade?

981
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: That's a great question. But if the I threw out

982
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 1: ten million, he might not say yes to ten million.

983
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 1: But if I'm in the neighborhood and the worst case

984
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: scenario is Justin Fields our backup for one year, a

985
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: ten million all right, I mean, I don't think he's

986
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 1: going to be the worst backup in the league, you

987
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean, I'm pretty certain that as backups go,

988
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: that might be a slight overpay. But he's going to

989
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: be a good backup that I can win games with,

990
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: even if I have to adjust my situation. And that's

991
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: worst case scenario.

992
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 3: So right now, at this point is first of all,

993
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 3: his cap hit this year for the Steelers is three

994
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 3: point two three million dollars. That's his base salary, and

995
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 3: he has earned to this point in his career fifteen

996
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 3: point six million.

997
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: So ten million guaranteed even sounds nice to the fields

998
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: household right now. I mean, you can almost double your

999
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,879
Speaker 1: career earnings one more season. Give a young player time,

1000
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: I mean quarterbacks. He could still sign three more contracts.

1001
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean we're seeing Cousins sign at thirty eight.

1002
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,760
Speaker 3: Right right. No, I don't. I don't hate the idea,

1003
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 3: but I want to see him play a little bit.

1004
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 3: I agree with you, to see him interact with teammates.

1005
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 3: I want to see how he how he commands the huddle.

1006
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: That kind of stuff, practice, how he's in the lunch room,

1007
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: I mean everything, yeah, all the above. Okay, Yeah, I

1008
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: like that though, Yeah, that. I just kind of thought

1009
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: about him, like I kind of wish you had a

1010
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: somewhat of a safety blanket that position.

1011
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know they typically do have something like

1012
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 3: that in place, and hey, you could always you can

1013
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 3: franchise tag him.

1014
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: Now you're not going to do that. I mean, if

1015
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: he was, that would be a great problem to have.

1016
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: If he takes over in week two for whatever reason,

1017
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: and he's a star and you win eleven games, the

1018
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 1: franchise tag.

1019
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 3: On the other hand, what if Russell Wilson hits.

1020
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: Right, good problem.

1021
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 3: It's a good problem. But let's say let's say now

1022
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 3: you got Russell Wilson at one point two million this year.

1023
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 3: You're not getting HM at one point two million next year.

1024
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: No one's getting him at one point two Nobody, Sierra

1025
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 1: is not getting him at one point two million, Right,

1026
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: So if he's a hit, he's gonna want the Cousins deal. Yeah,

1027
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: maybe less guaranteed or whatever. But I don't think it's

1028
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 1: comparable to GoF or what two or Lauren.

1029
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 3: Here's the thing about here's the thing about Wilson. And

1030
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:30,439
Speaker 3: he's made a ton of money.

1031
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 1: And he made a ton of money. I think making

1032
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 1: a ton of money this year, by.

1033
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 3: The way, Yeah, I think Russell Wilson and he's you know,

1034
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 3: I think he cares about his legacy, legacy, yep. And

1035
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 3: I feel like if he feels that he can have

1036
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 3: an opportunity to compete for a Super Bowl in Pittsburgh,

1037
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 3: I think he'll take less money.

1038
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: I could see that as we do that, I could

1039
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: see that is not a lot less right right right?

1040
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: The going rate, Yeah, minus ten percent or five percent

1041
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: or whatever.

1042
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 3: Possibly because he's been every he's been, He's taking the

1043
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 3: money to go to Denver and it didn't work out, right,

1044
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 3: Like I.

1045
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: Think these super proud athletes. I'm not making fun of

1046
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 1: Franco Harris, but don't want to remember the Franco Seattle years.

1047
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 3: He's made two hundred and sixty six million dollars in

1048
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 3: his career, and.

1049
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: His wife may have made more.

1050
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 3: She man probably has.

1051
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: I don't know enough of what you yeah, on a conversation,

1052
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: but let's let's let's put it this way.

1053
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 3: Between the two of them, their career earnings are over

1054
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 3: half a billion dollars just on this this That doesn't

1055
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 3: include any of the outside stuff.

1056
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: Like I'm sure he's not an add or too or yeah, yeah, yeah,

1057
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: he's fine. How old he's what thirty six?

1058
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 3: Thirty five? Right now?

1059
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so he'll be a free agent at thirty

1060
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: six pretty much, no matter what franchise at him. Might

1061
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: not be terrible. If he's great too, Do you want

1062
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: to give him a three year deal?

1063
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 3: Probably not, well you might, I don't know.

1064
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: And it's a hard one to call.

1065
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 3: Does he played this year?

1066
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 1: I say, what style of play? If he's not relying

1067
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: all on legs and stuff, maybe it'd be a cousin's deal.

1068
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: I think maybe a little.

1069
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 3: Less ten or eleven games this year. It's gonna be

1070
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 3: difficult to move on from him.

1071
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 1: Right, assuming he's a starter, because all the way through.

1072
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if you went ten or eleven, he

1073
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 3: probably played pretty well, I.

1074
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: Would imagine, or well enough for you to win the

1075
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,919
Speaker 1: way you wanted to play, you know. And those guys

1076
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: don't grow on trees. Now, it's an interesting situation, but

1077
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: I mean they're both up after this year, that's fright.

1078
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 3: You see a situation where they're both back, yes.

1079
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 1: But it would have to be Field's hardly played at all. Yeah,

1080
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And Wilson was good, not great,

1081
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of harmony in the room and

1082
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: everybody's happy and sing.

1083
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1084
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: You know, maybe Fields gets in there for some and

1085
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: look good in the preseason and there's optimism around act.

1086
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 3: I still have a package for Fields.

1087
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: I think there should be no matter what. Yeah, I mean,

1088
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about like let's move him to the

1089
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: receiver or he should return nothing corn Patterson snapping the

1090
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 1: ball and have ten guys blocking for.

1091
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 3: Third and third and two. Yeah, and I'm gonna put

1092
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 3: him out there in the shotgun and say, okay, you

1093
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 3: got to you gotta run pass option here.

1094
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, have Pickens nausey him on the field and either

1095
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: two tight ends or a six offensive lineman. And it

1096
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: doesn't mean he canceled throw a bomb to Pickens.

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00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, because he's the best. All apologies of

1098
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson, Yeah, Justin Fields is every bit the runner

1099
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 3: Lamar is.

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00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: I think he's better at this page. Yeah, I'm not

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00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 1: sure prime Lamar or vic was as good, was better,

1102
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: would probably better. But Fields is faster than Lamar right now. Yeah,

1103
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 1: nobody's stopped start as Lamar or avoids hits. But Fields

1104
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: is strong, he's physical, Yeah, and he is a rocket ship.

1105
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:36,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: I know a lot of our fans have seen him play,

1107
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: you know, the guys listening and.

1108
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 3: Seen him play at least seeing the highlights.

1109
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: But I bet some of the stuff like get practice.

1110
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: When he just decides to turn it on when there's

1111
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: no one around him, You're like, whoa, because he can fly. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, let's get to another break. That's going to do

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Speaker 3: it for our number one of the drive here on

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Speaker 3: Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with our number two

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Speaker 3: with Matt Williamson and Dale Lolli, myself and the guy

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Speaker 3: sitting right over there right after this