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Speaker 1: As we are finally closing in a week and a

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Speaker 1: Gordy Rush. Gordy got Lance Metal pul the Tito with

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Speaker 1: here Giants dot Com, Big Blue Kickoff Live, Appreciate the time,

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Speaker 1: how's everything are you doing? Fine? Guys? Well, a number

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Speaker 1: his Uh, his forties were not good at L Shoes

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Speaker 1: Uh L s hus pro Day. However, his his quickness

430
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Speaker 1: was was that his drills were really impressive. And I

431
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Speaker 1: think that's what chills. He's a freak athlete. Uh and

432
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Speaker 1: uh probably a little bit more solid. You know, Marktis

433
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Speaker 1: Mingo is a guy at l S qu people he

434
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Speaker 1: wore that they wore the same number. But I thought

435
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Speaker 1: the Key was a little bit more of a dynamic

436
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Speaker 1: rusher than Mingo. And Mingo of course went so early

437
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Speaker 1: to Cleveland and Had, you know, has Had hasn't lived

438
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Speaker 1: up to his draft stuff. Um So for for Key,

439
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 1: for me and I, you really gotta feel comfortable with

440
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Speaker 1: the person. He's a first round talent that's probably gonna

441
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Speaker 1: wind up in the second or third round. Gordie, how

442
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Speaker 1: much versatility does he have where you could play him

443
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Speaker 1: perhaps as a three or four edge linebacker versus a

444
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Speaker 1: four three defensive end. No, no, absolutely, you know. And

445
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Speaker 1: Dave Randa and that was part of the interesting thing

446
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 1: that Dave Randa plays more three and that's for three

447
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 1: and so one day. They've had it for two years.

448
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Speaker 1: They've moved him around a lot and and used him

449
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Speaker 1: in space a little bit and uh and and did

450
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Speaker 1: some zone blitzes and really effective when you think about

451
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Speaker 1: he's able to drop off, pick up a crossing receiver

452
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Speaker 1: or get it back and face remember somebody random will

453
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Speaker 1: rout on it. Once and he was all the way

454
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Speaker 1: thirty five yards down the pillar. Tremendous athlete. I'll tell

455
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Speaker 1: you something, Gordy, He's one of those guys who certainly

456
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Speaker 1: would be terrific for Betcher's ski. But as you said,

457
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Speaker 1: are a lot of other things in that folder, whether

458
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Speaker 1: it's medical or personnel stuff that the teams are gonna

459
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Speaker 1: have to get past, because if he was just a

460
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Speaker 1: video game player, you want to plug him into your

461
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Speaker 1: video game lineup for sure. I don't think there's any

462
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Speaker 1: question about that. I like him as a three or

463
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Speaker 1: four outside linebacker to me here, to me, to me,

464
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Speaker 1: it's I think the physical, it's it's the it's the mental.

465
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Speaker 1: Are you going to commit and play every play? He's

466
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Speaker 1: got to do a better job of playing the one

467
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Speaker 1: more consistently. And then that's just the you know, the

468
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Speaker 1: idea that you don't take plays off when you get

469
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Speaker 1: to the NFL and and who's going to get the

470
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Speaker 1: best out of them? And you know, I think the

471
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Speaker 1: red flag that I put up there is that get

472
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Speaker 1: overall and personally recruited him, gott him down here and

473
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Speaker 1: was his personal coach for a year, and of course

474
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Speaker 1: head wild but getting the head coaching Jown down here,

475
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Speaker 1: and I mean last year was a disaster for for

476
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Speaker 1: for Key from you know, from the shoulder injury. From

477
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Speaker 1: there's one thing to go rehab your shoulder injury. It's

478
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Speaker 1: another thing to go rehab your shoulder in dura and

479
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Speaker 1: come back. And yeah, you know, for you, for you,

480
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Speaker 1: for your money year in the league, and so um,

481
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 1: you know again, somebody's got to I would have deep,

482
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Speaker 1: deep duck conversations with him, his family, everything around him

483
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Speaker 1: comfortable than what I'm dealing with. That's why he and

484
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Speaker 1: Kevin Toller will be too interesting players to monitor as

485
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Speaker 1: the draft plays out. Well, that is Gordy Rush, former

486
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Speaker 1: L s U defensive back. He's now the Tigers radio

487
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Speaker 1: sideline reporter. Gordy greatly appreciate the time and inside great stuff,

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much. Okay, alright, so that is Gordy Rush

489
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Speaker 1: breaking down the L s U prospects. We're gonna open

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Speaker 1: up the phone lines at two zero one three hashtag

491
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Speaker 1: Giants channel on Twitter, and I want to make it

492
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Speaker 1: clear this is one of the reasons why we bring

493
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Speaker 1: on these folks who can tell us so much more

494
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Speaker 1: than just what you read about these prospects, Because you know,

495
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Speaker 1: I can watch as many cut ups as I want

496
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Speaker 1: to watch, and I could tell you whole boy, Colin

497
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Speaker 1: Toller looks like he could be a cover safety in

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Speaker 1: a sub package. Okay, but the cut ups don't tell

499
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Speaker 1: you about his attitude off the field. Okay, I'm not

500
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 1: gonna tell you about his personnel file. Now, you can

501
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: read things in the draft guys, and we all do that.

502
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Speaker 1: But it's great when we can talk to these guys

503
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Speaker 1: who have covered the team and who are there in

504
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 1: the trenches with them and they can say, hey, you

505
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Speaker 1: know what this is. This is gonna be a yellow flag. Okay,

506
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 1: may not be a red flag, but it's a yellow flag,

507
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Speaker 1: and it's stuff that's gonna have to be checked into.

508
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Speaker 1: And we say all the time that the medical and

509
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Speaker 1: the personnel stuff are things that you know, you can't

510
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Speaker 1: you can't a know everything that's in there. You might

511
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Speaker 1: know some things because it's come out in public, but

512
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Speaker 1: you're you're not gonna know everything in those two files.

513
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Speaker 1: And you're never gonna know how strongly a particular team

514
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Speaker 1: in the NFL is going to weigh those files compared

515
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Speaker 1: to the tape. You know, I love to say, believe

516
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Speaker 1: what you see the tape doesn't lie. I love to

517
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Speaker 1: use those phrases. That stuff is all true. But when

518
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Speaker 1: you're drafting a guy to play in the National Football leak,

519
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Speaker 1: that's only one of the files that he's got, because

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Speaker 1: he's got two other chapters in his file, or two

521
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Speaker 1: other files, if you will, once the personnel stuff and

522
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: and or personal stuff, however you want to phrase it,

523
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Speaker 1: your your choice, and the other ones the medical stuff,

524
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: and you have to consider all of that. But every

525
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Speaker 1: team weighs those things differently. And there's a load of

526
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Speaker 1: teams that say, we like his talent, we like his upside,

527
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Speaker 1: and we believe we have a support system in place,

528
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Speaker 1: Paul that will enable him to thrive. So they're willing

529
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Speaker 1: to roll the dice. Now, what we know over the

530
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Speaker 1: last two drafts that the Giants have put tremendous emphasis

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Speaker 1: is yes, they used to yeah, okay, Jerry Reese and

532
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Speaker 1: Mark Ross when they were running the draft, they were

533
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Speaker 1: much more willing to roll the dice, just go off

534
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Speaker 1: the tape and those other folders didn't carry as much weight.

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Speaker 1: And John Murray admitted that when he said, we've taken

536
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: too many risks, We've reached on too many guys. You know,

537
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Speaker 1: the athleticism may have been there, the skill set may

538
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Speaker 1: have been there, but the whole package wasn't complete. And

539
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Speaker 1: so John Marra put the mandate down a couple of

540
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Speaker 1: years ago and said, that's got to change. We gotta

541
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Speaker 1: stop taking some of these risks and we gotta take

542
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Speaker 1: guys who are more complete. They've done that in the

543
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Speaker 1: last two drafts. Well, guess what. Dave Getleman's now the

544
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Speaker 1: general manager. I suspect he's going to be more in

545
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Speaker 1: line with that train of thought. But but he also

546
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Speaker 1: because of his track record in Carolina and then previously

547
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Speaker 1: with the Giants, perhaps he may be given a little

548
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Speaker 1: more leeway. I don't know the answer, if anything is possible, Yeah,

549
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: none of us do. I mean, if you look back

550
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,959
Speaker 1: at the Carolina selections, not a lot of risks that

551
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: jump out there really were. The only thing I'll say is,

552
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: and this to me wasn't necessarily risky. As a personality,

553
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: Shaq Thompson was sort of viewed as a tweener. If

554
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Speaker 1: you remember Paul, people are on certain where he was

555
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: gonna play football player, great athlete, but where is the

556
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 1: species safety? Is the a linebacker? And I mean listen,

557
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Speaker 1: he's been a very productive player in Carolina. So I

558
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: thought about McCaffrey too. Yeah, they weren't sure exactly what's

559
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: he gonna be? A tool? A jack of old trades?

560
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: Is he a running back? Turns out he's a weapon. Yeah,

561
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Speaker 1: And that's why it's all about, you know, how you

562
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Speaker 1: utilize a player in the support system that you have

563
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Speaker 1: in place. But you know, it's interesting when Gordy was

564
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Speaker 1: talking about Key and Tolliver and he said their first

565
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 1: round talents, but they come with those yellow flags that

566
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Speaker 1: you talk about Randy Gregory, who the Cowboys took. If

567
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,959
Speaker 1: you remember first round talent, there are correct, he dropped

568
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Speaker 1: to them. But you roll the dice and then obviously

569
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Speaker 1: got to deal with suspensions. I mean the player that

570
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Speaker 1: to me comes to mind with the Giants when you're

571
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Speaker 1: talking about past drafts, Marvin Austin first round talent based

572
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Speaker 1: on what happened in North Carolina, and then because of

573
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Speaker 1: some of the issues, I'll give you the one above

574
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Speaker 1: all above all guys them Entrey More. That's fair. Them.

575
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Speaker 1: Entrey More destroyed people. When he was in college. He

576
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Speaker 1: he they used to call him the monster. He he

577
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Speaker 1: was that the Marcus Ware of college football when he

578
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: was coming out, but there were a number of questions

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Speaker 1: about the rest of the package. And when the Giants

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Speaker 1: got him in the third round, they were thrilled, thinking,

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Speaker 1: look at this dominating skill set. He will destroy this league,

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Speaker 1: he will beat the Marcus Ware. Well, guess what. The

583
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: rest of that stuff turned out to overcome his talent

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Speaker 1: and his skill And he's been on what three or

585
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Speaker 1: four different team and never has amounted too much in

586
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: the league because all the other stuff suffocated that incredible

587
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: talent that he brought to the field. To me, he's

588
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: the poster boy for taking a risk because Austin. Austin

589
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: also had a little bit of medical stuff too. Well,

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00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: of course, it wasn't just the I was looking at it.

591
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,959
Speaker 1: Austin was around earlier. He was That's I guess how

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Speaker 1: I was looking. But listen more felt to the third round,

593
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: they still felt that there was upside. First round pass

594
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: rushing town Man, there was no question about that. There

595
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: was no question about that. And look what happened though.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's open up the phone lines two one three,

597
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Speaker 1: hashtag Giants chat on Twitter. Matt is in Rhode Island.

598
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Speaker 1: He gets to started, what's happening, Matt? Hi? How we doing? Matt?

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Speaker 1: Don't be shy. That is a man of very few

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Speaker 1: words today apparently, Hey guys, here we go. All right, Matt,

601
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Speaker 1: how are we doing? That's rock and roll, baby, I'm

602
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Speaker 1: doing good. I'm doing good. I'll make it quick. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know two things. I mean, this thing's obviously if

604
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: everybody this is kind of consuming our minds here. Um,

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Speaker 1: I've well, I've thought for a long time, kind of

606
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: like Cupid, thought the Giants would trade down, but but

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Speaker 1: I actually don't think if they're going to it. I

608
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Speaker 1: think the main reason why two factors kind of killed

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Speaker 1: the trade down, first being the Jets being one of

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Speaker 1: the top six teams. You can say whatever you want.

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Speaker 1: Whatever the Giants would have requested to drop from two

612
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: to six, they're gonna ask for a little extra when

613
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: dealing with the Jets. It's not a good business move

614
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Speaker 1: for them to try to potentially give the Jets to

615
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Speaker 1: start quarterback and it would be kind of in their

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Speaker 1: face for a long time. And the second is the

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Speaker 1: Broncos getting that five getting Kingdom. Yeah, they're not really

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Speaker 1: desperate to move up um from five to two. So

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Speaker 1: now the Giants are kind of like, who are the

620
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: legit trade partners? It's the Dolphins, who you know you're

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Speaker 1: going to eleven. They don't have a dearth of picks

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Speaker 1: to to give up, and they really love is Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: and I just I just don't know that the Giants

624
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Speaker 1: are gonna be able to sell the idea of going

625
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: from to to twelve with without at least getting three

626
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: first round picks at the starting conversation is kind of

627
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Speaker 1: devoted stootball. So I think, honestly they're gonna stay put

628
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Speaker 1: into and I'm not sure it's the right idea, but

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Speaker 1: I feel like Park is going to be a Giants

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Speaker 1: yea morning, I started to get the feeling at the

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Speaker 1: Combine from talking to people there that there was not

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Speaker 1: going to be enough of a demand based on what

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Speaker 1: was going to happen in free agency with the quarterbacks

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00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: were available plus the quarterbacks class, and then given the

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00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: fact that there were only X number of teams that

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Speaker 1: were going to be desperate enough to make the move,

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00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: that the Giants could not get the proper price to

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Speaker 1: make the trade. So that's when at the Combine and

639
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: Indie I started to shuffle my thinking and saying Look,

640
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Speaker 1: the trade would be awesome, but I don't think it's

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00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Assume they're gonna have to make the picket too.

642
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: What are you focus in on? And that's where I've

643
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: now gotten to again, if someone gives them Fort Knox,

644
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: you gotta take it. But I don't think they're gonna

645
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: get Fort Knox. So I'm on board with you, and

646
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: I've said since the combine my order is Barkley, Nelson, Chubb,

647
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: Nelson and Chubb. That's like splitting hairs. Barkley clearly is

648
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: the guy for me. If they get to make that

649
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: picket too, when Cleveland doesn't take the running back, well

650
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: there's gonna be plenty of options at two. I mean that,

651
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: I think it's very clear. I disagree though that with

652
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: your perspective that you know, if the Giants traded with

653
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: the Jets, they'd have to worry about the court of

654
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: public opinion. You do at the end of the day

655
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: was good for youranization. You can't worry about the Jets

656
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: that give them after they traded with the Coral. But

657
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that the fear can be well if

658
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: we move spots to where the Jets are the Jets

659
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: take a player and then that player turns out cares. No,

660
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: Well that's what I'm saying. That shouldn't they don't have

661
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: the price. They're not. But he was talking about back

662
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: when they were in their original spot. Well, it doesn't matter,

663
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: real is they don't have the price to give them.

664
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter the Giant. I'm I'm the customer. I'm

665
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: the New York Giants customer. It totally matters. Do you

666
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: think Giant fans would be happy if they traded Peyton

667
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: Manning Jets? But Matt, but here's the face Jet, the

668
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: Jets don't. The Jets no longer have the picks to

669
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: meet the price anyway, so it's irrelevant. But Matt, the

670
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: process first start, but that's not now. They were at six.

671
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: It was not a good trading partner for the get Well,

672
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: but now it's irrelevant. I mean, but first of all,

673
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: it depends on what would have been offered. But but

674
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: to your pink about that, you're the Giants customer and

675
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: therefore everything has to be done to please you. I mean,

676
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: to me is a closed minded school and thought, Now

677
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: he didn't say that, well, no, but he was sort

678
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: of alluding he's talking about him. He's talking about that

679
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: fan base. The fan base would not be happy with that.

680
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: I get it. But but but here's the thing. No

681
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: matter most moves, there's always going to be a polarizing factor.

682
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: There's gonna be big. But but I just I just

683
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: don't go ahead. You could any team can't worry about

684
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 1: what another team is gonna do if they move spots.

685
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: Not talking about this, I'm talking about anything though. If

686
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: you moved down to twelve, right and the Bills move

687
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: up hypothetically, and the Bills take a player at two,

688
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: and then that player turns out to be great, the

689
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: Giants obviously would have made that move because they feel

690
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 1: that would have helped them in the long run. So

691
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: you can't look at it in a narrow lenses. What

692
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, that's that's what they don't share a

693
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: building with the Buffalo Bills. They have to. Yeah, but

694
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: if you're seven years old right now and the Jets

695
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: get the next big quarter of act, that's a that's

696
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: a generation people we're talking about. You have to consider

697
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: that it's a hypothetical. That's irrelevant because it's not reality.

698
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: But I understand your point. The point is it's hypothetical,

699
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: so it doesn't matter. Now I'm gonna last questions, hang

700
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: up if they do go Barkley and too yes, right,

701
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: and I think that's I have my reservations, but it's

702
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 1: easy to get excited about the idea of him in

703
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: the back field with Beckham and Ingram. I almost feel

704
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: like at that point you double down and now you

705
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: have to go. Of course, you know you don't just reach,

706
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: but like, if there's good value there at the top

707
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: of that second round, you have to take an offensive

708
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: line here and kind of almost go all in there

709
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: and almost kind of give you a no excuse to

710
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: not have a good season, to kind of evaluate where

711
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: he is to moving forward now. So just you kind

712
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: of thought on that. I appreciate you guys taking my call,

713
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 1: no question, and yes, I got to get back to work.

714
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree with you. I agree with you.

715
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: But it's not just because of need. It's also because

716
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 1: of value. We know, we know based on the general

717
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 1: consensus that there are a number of guards late first round,

718
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: early second round values, so the value will match up

719
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: to the Giant's need. They certainly need another offensive lineman.

720
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: Uh and and you know whether it's a guard or

721
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: a tackle. They certainly need another offensive lineman, and we

722
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: know that the guard value is right in that neighborhood

723
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 1: for for guys who are quality prospects behind Nelson. Again,

724
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: Nelson's the top guy. There's tremendous separation to the next group.

725
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 1: But the next group is a solid meat loaf of

726
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: God depending in some of those guys fall to the

727
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: high second round. I mean, that's still the mystery. You know,

728
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,720
Speaker 1: a guy like Hernandez, for example, there is a thinking

729
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: that there will be certainly price is gonna be there

730
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: after getting hurt at the combine. You know, we've heard,

731
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: we've had the Ohio State guy on all systems that

732
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: go for him would be ready for training camp, but

733
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: after getting hurt of the combine, he lost some spots. Probably, um,

734
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 1: you know, there are gonna be guys there at the

735
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 1: top of the second round for the giants who will

736
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 1: have appropriate value. So I'm with you on that. I'd

737
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: be disappointed if they drafted Barkley at two and did

738
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: not get an offensive alignment at the top of the

739
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: second round. I'm telling you that right now because I

740
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: think the value in the need fit and when that

741
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 1: happens you take it. I think it'll also be interesting

742
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: to see what happens with I mean, if you just

743
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 1: project the offensive line right now, Paul, you've got oh

744
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: mom a and you've got Jerry potentially at both guard spots.

745
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: So I mean, Gettleman may say to himself he's got

746
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: potentially the two guards locked in in terms of the starters.

747
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,479
Speaker 1: So now the question is what does the depth chart

748
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: look like? That I think could be the mindset entering

749
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 1: the draft. There are two other positions. If the Giants

750
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: take Barkley A two, let's take running back out of

751
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: the mix there, and there are two the positions besides

752
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 1: offensive line, where there is a very strong chance that

753
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: there will be appropriate value at the top of the

754
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: second round where they could get a guy that would

755
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 1: help immediately that his cornerback. Because we know there are

756
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: a lot of corners in this draft. Okay, you could

757
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: argue they could get one of the top of the

758
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 1: third round too. To be quite frank with you, there

759
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: are that many of them, all right. And the other

760
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: spot is outside linebacker. There are some definite outside linebackers

761
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: who should be there at the top of the second

762
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: round who could help them right away. So You're right,

763
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: Gettleman will have a few options there if he is

764
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:43,439
Speaker 1: putting the need component, you know, a little higher and says, well,

765
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: you know, we really could use another corner, We really

766
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: could use an outside linebacker. He could, he could do that.

767
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I I suspect that the

768
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,439
Speaker 1: value and his love for the Hogmali's would probably push

769
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: him more to the old line. And I certainly subscribe

770
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: to that following. I don't disagree with you, it's just

771
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: I'm also going back to and you know, there's only

772
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: so much stock you can put into when you go

773
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: back to what he did in Carolina. He took the

774
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:13,720
Speaker 1: defensive lineman high, the offensive lineman more in the middle area.

775
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: Not that doesn't mean that he's gonna follow that same

776
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: philosophy here. And the other thing that I would throw in,

777
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: if you take Barkley out of the number two spot,

778
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: running back would be in play high in the second

779
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: round for the Giants in terms of value if you

780
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: don't take if you don't take Barkley, I'm saying, I'm

781
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 1: switching that. If Barkley is not number two, then you

782
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: could argue you could definitely get a running back. Well,

783
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: here's the good news. Second round. We know the Giants need,

784
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: in no particular order, offensive line help, corner help, linebacker help,

785
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: and running back help. And they could they could even

786
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: kind of use another wide receiver, to be honest with you.

787
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: Two but the four key priorities, there's depth in all

788
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: four of those spots. There will be options in this

789
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: draft where you could get all four those spots. Remember,

790
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: you got to throw round picks now because you traded

791
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: j PP. You could go if you wanted to. Hypothetically,

792
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: and again I understand value, positional need, best guy available,

793
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: I get all that stuff, but you could wind up

794
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: having the appropriate value where you wind up taking one

795
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: at each one of those four positional needs in the

796
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: first three rounds with your four picks. That's absolutely possible.

797
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: All right, let's head back to the phone lights two, one, five, one,

798
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: three Mikes on Long Island. Mike, what's happening, Hi, guys? Hright,

799
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: we're animated today. I just wanted to talk about the

800
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: draft here, and uh, I'm I'm thinking, you know, like

801
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: a lot of other people, that if Donnally gets pasted

802
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: up on number one, which I doubt, then I think

803
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: the Giants would go for him. Donnally Donald. Let me

804
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: just say that I would prefer that not to happen.

805
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: I'd rather make the trade with Buffalo. I rather get

806
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: the two first round picks from them and two second

807
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: round picks and then maybe hopefully a first round pick

808
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: next year. And with that, well, they only have one

809
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: second rounder though Buffalo, well, I guess maybe for the

810
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: next year. I'm looking here, Buffalo has number fifty three

811
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: and fifty six. I forgot about fifty six. Fifty three

812
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,240
Speaker 1: and fifty six. Those a bolt in the second half

813
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 1: of the second round. Okay, so let me just finish here.

814
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: So you want to take you want to take two

815
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: first from them? There two seconds and next year's first.

816
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: That's right, Okay, I'm good with that. And this is

817
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 1: what I would do. Okay, I would take, uh, the

818
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: Notre Dame tackle at number twelve and with you um

819
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: kind of think about taking a quarterback at two, and

820
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: that would be the guy from Yep. He's a dynamic guy.

821
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm not you know, I think of

822
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: Michael Vick, not really you know, Michael Vick fan, but

823
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: he's got a lot of dynamics to him. Okay. Uh,

824
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: And somewhere in the second, second or early third round.

825
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: And uh, you guys never talked about this guy, and

826
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: I don't understand why, Uh Kerrigan Johnson from Mary Johnson. No,

827
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: we did. We recently did a spot. We were talking

828
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: a lot about him, but you guys didn't really spend

829
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: enough time on this guy. Yeah. I mean he's like

830
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: a DeMarco murray S type of running back. You know,

831
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: he'll right right downhill runner, very strong, no doubt about it.

832
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 1: But you know, you have to understand there's a lot

833
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: of running backs that I would put in that second

834
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 1: third tier. So I don't think you could go wrong

835
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: with a lot of these guys because there's a lot

836
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: of similar traits and a lot of upside. But yeah,

837
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: I mean we we tely focused on Johnson. Do you

838
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 1: see a lot of Bell of Pittsburgh and him, because

839
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 1: I do a little. I think Levian Bell, if I recall,

840
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: was brought up as a comparison when we were focusing

841
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: on carry on Johnson, But I look at him more

842
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: as a downhill guy as opposed to the shifty guy

843
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: like Bell. I don't know if that's necessarily the fairest comparison, right.

844
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: One other questions for you though, um uh have have

845
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: you guys noticed a quarterback named Mike White. I saw

846
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 1: him at the Shrine game. Yes, I saw it. He

847
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,479
Speaker 1: had a great game. Yeah, he had a great game

848
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: and he was his accuracy was was unbelievable, very good

849
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: that day for Western Kentucky. Yeah, So what do you

850
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: think about him in the later rounds? Well, listen, there's

851
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: no crime in taking a quarterback in the later rounds.

852
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: But now we're going back into the territory. You took

853
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: David's webb in the third round, so now you're gonna

854
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: bring in another quarterback in the late round. I mean,

855
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: all you're doing is just adding competition. I don't know

856
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: necessarily if that's improving your chances to find de Li's successor.

857
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 1: I mean, the whole goal is the higher you pick

858
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 1: a quarterback in all likelihood, the more likely that guy

859
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: pans out. But there's no crime. If they feel he's

860
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: good value in that spot, you bring him in and

861
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: he's additional competition. Okay, I just want to throw out

862
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: a name to you as a wide receiver from South

863
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: Dakota State, and uh I saw him at the combine

864
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: and his hands seemed to be very good. Big guy,

865
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: Jake Winnicky ball. Have you followed him and I believe Yeah,

866
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 1: Hold on a second. Let me see. I think I

867
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: have him in my in my notes. I did over

868
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 1: two hundred players this year, the most I've ever done before,

869
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: which and let me tell you something, my eyes are shot. Uh,

870
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: let me see. What did I write down about him?

871
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I have him somewhere in my and

872
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: my notes here. Winnicky, Winnicky, Winnicky. Oh my goodness, do

873
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: I have him him? In terms of his size, he's

874
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: six four, so I mean, that's obviously one of the

875
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: most appealing things that jumps out here. I got him,

876
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: but he has to go through injuries, so that's a

877
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: bit of a red flag. Yeah, I got him here.

878
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: What did I write down for him? I wrote down here, Ah,

879
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: he had an off the field issue, which somebody will

880
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: have to investigate if they're gonna if they're gonna deal

881
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 1: with his film. Then I wrote down level of competition

882
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: was an issue. Uh, his quickness off the line was questionable.

883
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 1: Looked like he had concentration lapses and catching the football

884
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 1: would have trouble against press coverage. What did I like?

885
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: He was physical? I like this frame. I liked his hands,

886
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: but uh you know those Uh, he's he's a late

887
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: late third third day pick for me, he'd be he

888
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: be he beat strictly a gamble. He's he's he's a

889
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: shot in the dark kind of guy. I think he

890
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: may even be an undrafted free agent. Can see you

891
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 1: bringing him into camp if you want. I don't know

892
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 1: that I do seventh round on him. Yeah. I mean,

893
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 1: like I said, he's got the size. I think that's appealing.

894
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: But the level of competition of the field issues. Yeah,

895
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: that all the field folder again, that's that's that's another

896
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: yellow flag. And as I pointed out, he also dealt

897
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: with some injuries, specifically his junior year where it wasn't

898
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you got it? Two one four, five,

899
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 1: one three. Let's hear from Scott in New Mexico. Scott,

900
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: what's happening, Hi, guys? What are you doing? Got a

901
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: couple of comments that was very interested in the Gordy

902
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: retch conversation because I was a big day chart guy.

903
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,439
Speaker 1: That's what he look great at the combine. They looked

904
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 1: like he ran fairly precise cuts on all of his routes,

905
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: so I was kind of surprised that he wasn't as

906
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: high on DJs so far as not being a complete player.

907
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: Is that a correct assessment? Do you think? Well, his

908
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: his assessment was based on the fact that L s

909
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: U was primarily a running team. Therefore, he hasn't had

910
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: the full experience that many wide receivers would have in

911
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: a pro style offense. I mean he hasn't run, Uh,

912
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: you know, a million different routes there. That's not what

913
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: they do with the receiver. So that doesn't mean he

914
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: can't do it. It simply means that there's a bit

915
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: of a learning curve he's going to have to use

916
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: as he becomes an NFL player. Uh two class about

917
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 1: athletes or the guys on the team. Now, one I'm

918
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: concerned with is the or at least I heard the

919
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: rumor that Landon Cohen's injury may have to be corrected

920
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 1: by surgery, which might keep him out a number six

921
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 1: eight weeks. Was that accurate or is that something that

922
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: that's just a rum. Landed was quoted the other day.

923
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: I guess it was last week as saying when he

924
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: came in. Uh, last week when they reported for the

925
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: strength and conditioning program, they found out that the forearm

926
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: may not have healed correctly after the first procedure, and

927
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 1: that he was having some second and third opinions, and

928
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: there was a possibility that they would have to do

929
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,720
Speaker 1: another procedure on the arm, but if so, it would

930
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,959
Speaker 1: only keep him sidelined for about eight weeks, which still

931
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: would give him time to be ready for training camp. Okay,

932
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: and then my last question that I have is one.

933
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: I know this is a voluntary workout period, but I

934
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: was kind of concerned that one of the holdouts was

935
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: Eric Flowers. And I don't know the Giant management if

936
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 1: you have gotten any insight for them or what are

937
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 1: you either of yours perspectives on Uh, Eric Flower is

938
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: holding now because he's a key to whether they're going

939
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,240
Speaker 1: to shift him to Garter. He's going to play right tackle.

940
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: So does that influence you think that Gettleman's final decisions

941
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: or am I making too big a deal out. I'll

942
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: let lands answer, but only first I want to say,

943
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: don't call him a holdout, because he's not a holdout.

944
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: He's hold out. I just said he didn't attend the

945
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: voluntary workout. Well again again, voluntary workout. I love what

946
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,879
Speaker 1: people say otherwise, but go ahead, Well, Scott, I first

947
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 1: of all, I mean that's all based on reports. I mean,

948
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: the Giants don't reveal who's here and who's not here.

949
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: I know that Patmer did say Oldell Beckham was here

950
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 1: when he was on the conference call. Other than that,

951
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: he did not go through the entire roster. He just

952
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: said he felt that just about everybody was here. And

953
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 1: just as a matter also of clarification, because the off

954
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: season program is voluntary, uh, you know, to then say

955
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: somebody was or was not here and start taking attendance,

956
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: that makes it seem like it's mandatory. So teams usually

957
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: don't comment exactly well who is in and who's not in,

958
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: And the media only gets to be on the premises

959
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 1: a handful of times during the off season program. So

960
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: just because a writer has not reported that a guy

961
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: is here or not really doesn't mean much because they're

962
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: not here to see it. So make Bledley just make

963
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,479
Speaker 1: that clear to you. Yeah that, I mean, that's another

964
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: key component. I mean with respect to you know, we

965
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: always have this conversation every single year at this time

966
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 1: of the year to just emphasize. In the c b

967
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 1: A it specifically says voluntary, but players still get put

968
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: under the magnifying class because it's almost like they're expected

969
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 1: to be here despite the act that it is voluntary.

970
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: I will say this, there's a lot of players that

971
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,280
Speaker 1: do choose to work out on their own or work

972
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: with specialists Scott during the course of this period meeting. Uh,

973
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: if you're a defensive lineman, maybe you have a defensive

974
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: guy that you utilize in the off season. If you're

975
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman, there's you know, la Charles Bentley, I

976
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 1: know is a guy that camps right. They go to

977
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 1: these camps, they work with various coaches, gurus, and so forth.

978
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: So I mean, Paul and I are not necessarily privy

979
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 1: to the conversations that individual players are having with management.

980
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: But when you hear these reports of a guy's not here,

981
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: are guy's not there? We don't know what communication they

982
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: had with the front office and whether or not they've

983
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: been up front and said, hey, listen, I understand it's voluntary.

984
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 1: I have this type of set up in the off season.

985
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: I have family in this area. I've arranged to work

986
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: out with this individual, and maybe the team approves it,

987
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: or maybe the team says, listen, can you do half

988
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: with that person do half with us. I mean, I

989
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 1: don't know what type of conversations occurred with respect to

990
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: specific players, but I think it's important to know that

991
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: there are players that choose to maybe not be here

992
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 1: during the voluntary period. But that doesn't mean they're sitting

993
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: on the couch eating Dorito's and wanting I guess that's

994
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 1: my bigger when Scott just one other factor I want

995
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:11,959
Speaker 1: I want to mention to you because it's a matter

996
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: of information and it's also a matter of being fair. Uh.

997
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 1: When when Lance is talking about how guys you know

998
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: can choose to be elsewhere, Well, the first two weeks

999
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: of the off season program are strictly strength and conditioning.

1000
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: The guys go into the weight room and they're doing

1001
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: strength and conditioning things. They're not allowed Okay, they're not

1002
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 1: allowed to do any football function on the field with

1003
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: the coaches. They're not. Now, let's just say that a

1004
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: particular player has an off on, off site school or

1005
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 1: tutor that he is going to where he can actually

1006
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: do football activity with that guy at his camp or

1007
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: at his school. You could certainly make an argument while

1008
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: a coach would always want his players to be here

1009
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 1: as much as possible because it helps team chemistry and

1010
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: it helps pumuliarity with what's going on. I get all

1011
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 1: of that, but if a player truly needs the physical

1012
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,959
Speaker 1: coaching on the field, he's gonna get more of that.

1013
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:15,760
Speaker 1: If he's off site, then he will because the cb

1014
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 1: A won't let these guys get coached on the field

1015
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: during the off season. This is why the CBA is

1016
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: so screwed up. And and here here's the other thing.

1017
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: Here's the other thing. I'll throw out, Scott, And I

1018
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: bring this up all the time. I know right now

1019
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 1: this is all we have. We're still far removed from

1020
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: the start of the season, so we focus on attendance

1021
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: and this and that. When was the last time we

1022
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: talked about a guy that was here or was it

1023
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,919
Speaker 1: here at workouts and that impacting what actually occurred when

1024
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 1: it's week five or week seeks of the NFL regular season. No,

1025
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 1: the reason I bring that up is, and I'll give

1026
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: you an example. Odell Beckham last year. You know, he

1027
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: was out in Los Angeles part of the voluntary work

1028
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 1: and then he did come for the mandatory stuff. But

1029
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 1: are we gonna say that the Giants offense struggled last

1030
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,959
Speaker 1: season because Odell Beckham wasn't here for every single part

1031
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: of the phase of the offseason workouts. You know what

1032
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I mean, right now, it's something to talk about,

1033
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: but in the big picture of things, I don't know

1034
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,720
Speaker 1: if you could show me a study that says guys

1035
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 1: that are not here with their teams wind up hurting

1036
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 1: their teams once we get to the middle of the season, right,

1037
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 1: So I appreciate was just curious about it, and I

1038
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: just wanted to see what your perspective was that you asked,

1039
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 1: and we tried to deliver complete information and appreciate the

1040
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: phone call. Thanks so much for weighing in. And you

1041
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: brought up an interesting point what I think a lot

1042
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: of people may not realize, Paul. It's a nine week

1043
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:38,720
Speaker 1: offseason workout. It's broken into stages, three phases, so nine

1044
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: total weeks, three phases. First phases strictly conditioning work. You're

1045
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 1: not even I mean, you're allowed to look out the

1046
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 1: window with the grass, but you can't step on in

1047
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: and touch it. It's what you get that more than

1048
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 1: they do. Oh, it's ridiculous. The only thing they can

1049
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: do again, our strength and conditioning drills within their units

1050
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: you know the types of drill that they can do,

1051
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: like their foot drill or their their hand drills. They

1052
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: can't do any football stuff mostly in the weight room.

1053
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 1: I mean, that's where, honestly, it would be a bigger

1054
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: deal if a guy missed parts of the off season program,

1055
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: if if the coaches were allowed to actually get on

1056
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: the field with them and do stuff, go over technique

1057
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: and all of these other things. You know, I'll be

1058
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: honest with you, I could understand when some of these

1059
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: guys say, you know what, I'm better off going to

1060
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: a school or a tutoring program because they're gonna let

1061
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 1: me get on the field and learn techniques, hand to

1062
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: hand combat, so to speak. I can understand if a

1063
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: player felt that way, And I bet you there are

1064
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: a lot of coaches who don't want to maybe admit it,

1065
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 1: but under their breath they're like, hey, you know what,

1066
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:51,919
Speaker 1: you probably are better off if you go out there,

1067
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,439
Speaker 1: because you know you can learn some things I can't

1068
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 1: teach you getting more physical activity on a daily basis

1069
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: than just I mean, you listen, you're most do myself

1070
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: by working out, but you're not gonna be sitting on

1071
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: the line working on hand techniques and all of those

1072
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 1: other things. And it goes against the coach to say, look,

1073
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 1: I'd rather have you stay away. It goes against the

1074
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: coaches well being where his own a blood thinking to do.

1075
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 1: But I would not be surprised if there are some

1076
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 1: coaches over time move kind of into the bread said, look,

1077
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: I really don't want to tell you this, but you

1078
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: probably you're get a little lot more if you go

1079
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: to that school out in Montana, then you are if

1080
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: you come here for the first couple of weeks ago

1081
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: shack in Montana. Where d you know this? This is

1082
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: part of what's wrong with the National Football League. Okay,

1083
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: these are collectively bargain deals, the labor agreement. This is

1084
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 1: what people have come to terms with. But guess what

1085
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: it has hurt? The quality of play and the development

1086
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 1: of players. Those are the facts it's eating in. It's

1087
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: eating into the most important part of the season, which

1088
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 1: is the off season where guys look to get better

1089
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: and teams also look to get better. With that being said,

1090
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: let's head acting lines. We're gonna go overseas. Let's check

1091
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: in with Jason and Denmark. Jason, what's happening? It was

1092
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: going on Land time do you all right? Jason? Thanks

1093
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 1: with you? What do you have for us? Everything's going great? Man, Hey,

1094
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 1: I first have to apologize CEO and great closing of

1095
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,399
Speaker 1: that interview is the reason why. Um, when you were

1096
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 1: interviewing that last guy, the guy that talked about the

1097
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 1: last player, and you were saying that he was saying

1098
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 1: that he had motivational problems. You know, I'm here at work,

1099
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: I'm working. I'm like, why are we spending time on this?

1100
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: We have a locker room where there were issues with

1101
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: motivation on the field and so on apparently, And I'm like,

1102
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: why are we even talking about this? But the way

1103
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 1: you all closed that interview basically changed my whole mind

1104
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: on what I was thinking. So I have to apologize

1105
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 1: for kind of mentally for so much time on let's

1106
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,439
Speaker 1: your mental thoughts. You don't have to apologize for them,

1107
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: That's fine, no worries. We just thought it was interistic

1108
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: to hear from guys that have upside but may not

1109
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 1: have been able to tap. You know what. Honestly, it's

1110
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: our job to give you the most complete picture possible,

1111
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 1: to give you all the angles of the prism, and

1112
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: then you can interpret or analyze however, you wish and

1113
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: come up with whatever opinion you want to, so you're

1114
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: more than welcome. Cool, okay, and say, Quon Barkley, I

1115
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 1: feel that we should take him, and all for selfish reasons,

1116
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: of course I'm talking about I'm talking about I can

1117
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: just see those uh Giants Dallas games. I can see

1118
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: those jerseys flying off the shelves. You know, I can

1119
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: see so much upside on the business and on the

1120
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 1: entertainment and of having a player like that on the team.

1121
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: And you know a lot of people don't talk about

1122
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 1: those things. So just as a you know, just coming

1123
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: from me living all the way in Denmark, you know,

1124
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: a wanting some action, I'm like, we should get Barkley.

1125
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 1: We should get Barkley. We should get Barkley. Uh. And

1126
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 1: my last, my last comment of question, Um, Davis Webb, Paul,

1127
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: I'm probably your age and I'm all old school, and

1128
00:57:55,840 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: I really like Web also, and last year you kept

1129
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: mentioning that he's working. Um, you know with the coaches

1130
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 1: game after game going through you know, I don't know

1131
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 1: how much what the number was before the games, yes,

1132
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: hours before every game going through the route tree. It

1133
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: was very impressive. Um, is there any way for fans

1134
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 1: to see some of that footage of him doing that.

1135
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: That happens before the gates are open at the stadium,

1136
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: so no fans ever get a chance to see that.

1137
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: And the only thing I can tell you is that

1138
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: is done by the Giant Film crew. They do take

1139
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: that stuff because the coaches and Davis want to go

1140
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: over it afterwards. But that stuff is in house and

1141
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: never available to the public. And that's why I tried

1142
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: to tell you folks all during the course of the season.

1143
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: You know where your eyes and ears and and so

1144
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: we're trying to tell you, hey, this is what's happening.

1145
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: I know you can't see it, you can't hear it,

1146
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: you can't feel it and touch it, but this is

1147
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 1: what's going on. So um no, I'm sorry. There's really

1148
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 1: nothing I can do for you in that regard it,

1149
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: but I will tell you this. I mean, you're from Denmark,

1150
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: and I think it's a long way to come to

1151
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 1: training camp. But if you get to the States, you

1152
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: might want to visit practice. It's pretty fun York. Oh okay,

1153
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: he's got tied to the States. Okay, because my wife's

1154
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 1: dan is Oh okay, well, please get out the training

1155
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: camp and see a practice and don't forget to say hi,

1156
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: it's fun. Okay, Well, I'll call you all again, James,

1157
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 1: got it, appreciate the folk. And two lessons Jason, you

1158
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 1: never have to apologize for your mental thoughts that you

1159
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 1: haven't vocalized the number two, never aid yourself and teach

1160
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: yourself on this show by comparing yourself to Paull the team.

1161
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 1: So those are two no knows for the future when

1162
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: you call back in. Although although there are those who

1163
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 1: have mentally wanted to deep fry me in oil because

1164
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 1: I'm not taking a quarterback at two and I don't

1165
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: think the Giants are. But whatever, well, those individuals and

1166
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: were than happy to call. And I should say, with

1167
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: that being said, let's head back to the phone lines.

1168
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,439
Speaker 1: Lenn Is in Columbia, Maryland. Len, what's happening, Hey, guys?

1169
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: How you doing? Okay? Okay, uh listen. First off, I

1170
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: want to I want to talk about the draft, but

1171
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: let me just as an introduction. UM, I agree with

1172
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 1: everything the Giants have done in this offseason, starting from

1173
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 1: the hiring of Ghettlemen, the coaches, the assistant coaches, the trades,

1174
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 1: free agency, the guys who they disinvited back. I mean,

1175
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 1: I'm in agreement with everything they've done. Boy boy, you

1176
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 1: look at this rouster. We need a lot of work,

1177
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: We need a lot of help. I mean, you know,

1178
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 1: this number two pick. There are four guys to me who,

1179
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 1: unless you're really nitpicking, unless you're really nitpicking, can help

1180
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 1: us out. And they come clean off field issued, no

1181
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 1: off field issues, no injury issues. Barkley, Chubb, Nelson, and Fitzpatrick.

1182
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 1: Any one of those guys makes us better on opening day,

1183
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 1: and for me, that's what I'm looking for. I don't

1184
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 1: think we've gotten better in this offseason. I don't think

1185
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 1: we've gotten better. I think it's the draft that's going

1186
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: to make the difference. And I think those four first

1187
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 1: four picks I've got to be people who by mid

1188
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 1: season are all starting. Paul, you you talked about that

1189
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 1: second pick. I think it's got to be an offensive ointment. Also,

1190
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 1: unless we pick Nelson in the front, you know, with

1191
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 1: the first pick, which I'd be okay with. Really I

1192
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: want Barkley, but I'd be okay with any of the

1193
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 1: four guys. Um, I think there's going to be a

1194
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 1: run on interior guys picks through us I'm hoping we

1195
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 1: can get one of those top six or seven guys.

1196
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 1: I mean Daniels, Hernandez Price. Um, right now, I see

1197
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: those as the four top guys. Those are the guys

1198
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 1: I want. I hope we don't have to somehow trade

1199
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 1: a draft pick to try to get one of those

1200
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 1: four guys. What do you what do you guys think?

1201
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 1: What you mean? What I've said up to now. But

1202
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 1: when you say trade a draft, you talk about move

1203
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: towards the latter part of the first round, is to

1204
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 1: get into the top of the first and get a

1205
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 1: plug in guy on opening day. Look, I'm all about

1206
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: two eighteen. You want to talk about nineteen and twenty.

1207
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:29,919
Speaker 1: You got to talk to other callers. Well, let that.

1208
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 1: That's fine, But I still think that's a closed minded

1209
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 1: perspective because the draft can't just be about I understand

1210
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 1: you're hungry, you want to win. I don't disagree with you,

1211
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 1: but you can never look at a draft based on

1212
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 1: one year, because that's when you fall into a trap

1213
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 1: and you just go based on the account to that

1214
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 1: And I look, you're you're up to something there, and

1215
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 1: I agree, it's it's it's it's a it's a point

1216
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 1: of view. It's a different point of view on my part.

1217
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 1: And how many times in this offseason have you guys,

1218
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 1: you know, the three or four main guy who have

1219
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 1: been on how many times have you said it's a

1220
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 1: year to year league. It is a tell me about well,

1221
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 1: I'm just looking at Yes, it's a year to year

1222
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: league because rosters turned over like crazy. But the whole

1223
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 1: point is, if you draft a player, especially I would

1224
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 1: say in the top three rounds Land, it's fair to

1225
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 1: say that your goal is they're gonna contribute through the

1226
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 1: duration of their rookie contract. That I think is a given.

1227
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 1: And I think the also big part of the goal

1228
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 1: is they're all gonna warrant second contracts, meaning you're gonna

1229
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 1: have a reason to resign them. If you don't have

1230
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 1: a reason to resign any of your top three picks

1231
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:40,919
Speaker 1: in the draft, then I would say that I think

1232
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 1: you felt short. You don't, Okay, don't you don't agree

1233
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 1: with that? No? I do, I do, I I said,

1234
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 1: I I mean, I think you guys have a point

1235
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 1: of view, or you lance since I'm talking to you,

1236
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 1: have have a point of view. Uh, from what you

1237
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 1: said has made made a lot of sense. I keep

1238
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 1: zero win in on opening day and I get that,

1239
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 1: you know Wineman in that second round. Yeah, we got

1240
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 1: two three. We got two number three picks. Um, you know,

1241
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 1: D back, wide receiver or wide receiver, D back. Give

1242
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 1: us four guys who by mid season. You know, those

1243
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 1: first two picks starting an opening day, um, and the

1244
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 1: other two the D back and the wide receiver, maybe

1245
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 1: started in an opening day, but by by by mid season,

1246
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 1: that wide receiver is replacing Thomas Lewis, and that D

1247
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 1: back is a permanent part of the rotation. Uh, maybe

1248
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 1: in the slot, but as a permanent part of that rotation. Hey, guys,

1249
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 1: thanks for giving me the time. I really we get closer.

1250
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 1: It's an exciting time. Absolutely, Thanks away. Appreciate the phone call.

1251
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 1: And I get what he's preaching in terms of wanting

1252
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 1: a corner, for example, to come in day one. Maybe

1253
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 1: be a slot guy could start. But let me keep

1254
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 1: in mind, the Giants did sign five new defensive backs,

1255
01:04:57,040 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 1: so I do think that they have improved themselves, um,

1256
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 1: in a number of different ways. I'm disagreeing with him there,

1257
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 1: but having said that, Uh, the philosophy that the Giants

1258
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 1: have right now is they're dealing with eighteen. John Mara

1259
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 1: has said he expects this to be a good team

1260
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 1: in two thousand eighteen. Dave Gettleman has been mandated with

1261
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 1: that charge. That is the blueprint he has laid out.

1262
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 1: They have decided to keep Eli Manning partly because not

1263
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 1: only because they think he's still a good player, but

1264
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 1: they also want to win sooner rather than later. So

1265
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 1: there's no doubt when you look at this team, you

1266
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 1: look at the roster, you look at the contracts, the

1267
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 1: length of the contracts, the money that's being delved out

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Speaker 1: in those contracts. This Giant's team is going to try

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Speaker 1: to do something in a two year window. And that's

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Speaker 1: just the bottom line. They're gonna try to do something

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Speaker 1: in the next two years. So you know, we've had

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Speaker 1: this conversation with Letti before. I'm not interested in five

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Speaker 1: and six years down the road right now, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: It's a bonus if you can take plans now and

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Speaker 1: and mess them with what you need to get done

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Speaker 1: in the next two years. That's a bonus if you

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Speaker 1: can do that. But the priority right now is the

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Speaker 1: next two to three years. What can they do to

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Speaker 1: become a contender in that period of time. The next five, six,

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Speaker 1: seven years. Forget about it. That's that's that's on the

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Speaker 1: back burner. That is secondary to me. I agree, But

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Speaker 1: I think you can accomplish both. I don't think that's

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Speaker 1: a stretch at all. You can. It's hard to do,

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Speaker 1: but you can. There may be a little bit of

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Speaker 1: overlap in there. There may be, But the truth of

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Speaker 1: the matter is, you can't even tell me more than

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Speaker 1: three or four guys who are on this roster today

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Speaker 1: who will be on this team in the next six years.

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Speaker 1: You can't because a lot of the defensive corps is

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Speaker 1: going to have expiring contracts. Just you. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: get that. But but at the same time, you're always

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Speaker 1: retooling your roster with draft picks because everybody is going

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Speaker 1: to have contracts that are gonna expire progressively. Okay, you

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Speaker 1: don't want everybody walking out the door. At the same time,

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Speaker 1: here we are seven years from the last Super Bowl championship, okay,

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Speaker 1: and who's left fifty three man roster plus practice squad

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Speaker 1: guys plus injured reserve guys. Safe to say they probably

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Speaker 1: had like sixty five guys under contract during the two

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Speaker 1: thousand eleven season. And who is left on this team

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Speaker 1: right now. Seven years is a long time in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: But but Eli Manning, mark Erslake, and Zach DIASI that's it,

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Speaker 1: But so don't So I'm sorry, I can't give you

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Speaker 1: much priority on what you think may happen six or

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Speaker 1: seven years. But I'm not even only be three guys.

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Speaker 1: I'm not even talking six or seven years. If first

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Speaker 1: of Eli Manning has a contract through two thousand nineteen, Okay,

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Speaker 1: so if you're operating that two year window, correct, don't

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Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen after two thousand nineteen. The guys

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Speaker 1: I draft, they're all getting four year contracts and the

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Speaker 1: first round picks getting a fifth year option. Correct, that's

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Speaker 1: beyond two years. So I'm I can still think about

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Speaker 1: Paul two thousand twenty two one a little thousand, little bit.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's crazy. By by two thousand, by

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Speaker 1: two thousand twenty two, two thousand twenty one, even you

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Speaker 1: may not have more than six guys on this roster

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Speaker 1: still here. It's it's possible. But the turnover in this

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Speaker 1: league is it is like you take the roster and

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Speaker 1: you put in a food process. But the core, the

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Speaker 1: core with the draft is going to stay stable or

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Speaker 1: that's the goal that you want to go. And that's

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Speaker 1: my point that you don't want to have it two

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Speaker 1: years hasn't been that way. Well, that's more you have

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Speaker 1: to kick beyond two years. Now you're selling bike points.

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Speaker 1: You can merge it. It's hard to do, but if

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Speaker 1: you can merge it, that's the best way to go. Okay,

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Speaker 1: alright with that being yes, appreciate all the phone calls,

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Speaker 1: all the tweets. Be back up and running tomorrow on

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Speaker 1: Big Blue Kickoff Live. We're gonna be covering two schools.

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Speaker 1: I believe it's Louisville and Central Florida that John and

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Speaker 1: I will be tackling, and we're gonna get more of

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Speaker 1: your phone calls in as well as we continue the

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Speaker 1: dialogue leading up to the draft. We want to thank

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Speaker 1: certainly all of our guests over the last few weeks

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Speaker 1: and all of our guests upcoming as we continue to

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Speaker 1: inch closer to finally the Giants selecting somebody, perhaps with

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Speaker 1: the number two overall pick for Paula Tino. I'm lancetto

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Speaker 1: out the rest of your Monday right here on Giants

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Speaker 1: dot Com. I'm a going