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Speaker 5: I don't take the Texans as well? How about Davis Mills?

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Speaker 2: Best? How about Acid Rain live from Best of Times?

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Speaker 4: It's freezing Minnesota.

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Speaker 5: Have Chicago's number overall and we'll be played inside. Yea, Minnesota,

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Speaker 2: I hear he's afraid of women, are we all?

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Speaker 5: I am afraid of being accused. That man's plainning. Hey,

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Speaker 5: I don't that does worry me? Your men? And also

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Speaker 5: the album room is nasty. I don't like that place.

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Speaker 2: It could be called the asteroids. Do I have them covering? Yes?

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Speaker 2: Twenty eight to nine? Right, yeah, I'm not closed. Social media?

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Speaker 2: I thought you meant to play No No, No team.

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Speaker 3: All right, Welcome the Patriots unfiltered. It is Tuesday here

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Speaker 3: at Chilette Stadium. Seems like a long time ago since

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Speaker 3: we played a game, I know, a show back at Thursday.

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Speaker 4: But we've got a lot to talk about.

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Speaker 3: Nevertheless, going back to Thursday's game, everything that happened over

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Speaker 3: the weekend, it.

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Speaker 4: All works out for the Patriots.

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Speaker 9: Well we're waiting on the appeal, right, I mean, everything

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Speaker 9: works sound great for tomorro Chase.

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Speaker 2: That's what we're referring, right, Well, that's one of the

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Speaker 2: things that's really the only thing they work.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's gonna say. It's really this was a.

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Speaker 2: Very anti Normally, when you have a bye week or

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Speaker 2: a mini bye week, like every team that you want

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Speaker 2: to lose loses. This one went the other way.

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Speaker 3: Well, Kansas City didn't lose. I mean, uh yeah, yeah, they.

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Speaker 4: We wanted them to win that Denver would happen.

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Speaker 9: But a good debate that Paul and I had because

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Speaker 9: it goes into like, do you want someone to just

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Speaker 9: dead and bury them? Are you kind of concerned if

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Speaker 9: they sneak in a's like listen.

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Speaker 3: Strategically, if you're a Patriots fan, you wanted the Chiefs

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Speaker 3: to beat the Broncos, But I can understand wanting to

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Speaker 3: bury Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I want nothing to do

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Speaker 2: with my home, especially since neither happened, Like the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: didn't win, and the Chiefs aren't buried, no, no, no no,

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Speaker 2: but they took a step towards me.

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Speaker 4: I kind of felt you got to lose one to

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I kind of felt like this was a bad

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Speaker 5: weekend for the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: I agree, And now all the games went against them.

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Speaker 5: Well, and Williams is on injured reserve Thursday, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 5: me is it puts a little bit of a damper

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Speaker 5: on this Thursday night went honestly like you were gonna

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Speaker 5: Millon Williams for the Bills and the Ravens game is

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Speaker 5: not good. Like that's not good. So that's a tough one.

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Speaker 5: Like the first real no offense to Antonio Gibson, the

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Speaker 2: But Christians all too.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know that was the beginning of the year.

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Speaker 2: You didn't know what you didn't have yet.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't go.

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Speaker 3: What the impact of losing Williams for a few games

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Speaker 3: will be. But going back to Thursday, how about them uniforms? Huh,

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Speaker 9: You know what I thought, Fred, I just the stadium

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Speaker 2: Like I never really get a sense of it, but

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Speaker 3: But since they since they put in led lights at

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Speaker 2: But it's a chance.

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Speaker 9: Like all the different screens around the stadium are all

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Speaker 2: And it's just even like the.

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Speaker 3: Aisles of the seats had like something.

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Speaker 2: Just looking out out in the press box. I was like, damn,

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Speaker 2: the stadium was pretty cool. Yeah, night, But that you know,

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, the juice, I I really I think our

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Speaker 7: I do.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I do too.

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Speaker 9: Uh, but do you guys see digs running out like

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Speaker 9: I just I'm I'm kind of a fan of this

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Speaker 2: I think it's great. I think there was some juice

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Speaker 2: I'm at the top of the list for as much

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Speaker 2: criticism as I give Thursday night football, I think it's

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Speaker 2: ridiculous that they play it. They make an event out

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Speaker 2: There was there was some juice in the building. It's

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Speaker 9: Richard Sherman down in k sp Zalis didn't go up

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Speaker 2: If he was mad, bro, but Bro, I thought he

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Speaker 5: Salas feel to be the second best tight end in

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Speaker 2: That's good.

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Speaker 9: Uh Now, I always thought it was cool Richard Sherman

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Speaker 9: It was a little bit performative to me. Oh but

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Speaker 9: coming off of you, mad bro a couple of years before,

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Speaker 9: and so much respect for that defense. But Shrman's big dude,

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Speaker 9: I didn't I didn't have in person six three.

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Speaker 9: And of course Turissa Thompson, Paul's he's friend was there

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Speaker 2: I was saying, I think Currisa and I may have

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to always walk by her on his

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Speaker 2: Alex Ali had a little chat, yeah, chat.

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Speaker 3: And of course the main thing is the Patriots come

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Speaker 3: away with a thirteen point win over the New York

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Speaker 3: New Jersey Jets. So good stuff AFC East Patriots run the.

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Speaker 2: East right for sure, good stuff. Josh Allen. That's six touchdowns,

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Speaker 2: so so get ready in a few weeks, you guys,

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Speaker 2: and you're get ready.

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Speaker 4: Beer starting m VP I'm afraid of Mahomes.

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Speaker 3: I'm afraid, you know, like come on now, healthy respect

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Speaker 3: before the season we were, you know, if they can

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Speaker 3: just show improvement and Drake May can just show.

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Speaker 2: Them that's all gone exactly, that's all gone.

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Speaker 4: Like we've done that. Like we're on like.

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Speaker 2: Right, want you want now? You want the number one scene?

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Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 4: And you guys are afraid, who's it's all it's all gravy.

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Speaker 2: But you say, I'm afraid it's all gravy. You're human, Orange, don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't want any piece of Mahomes. A lot of

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Speaker 3: people have had pieces of him and they're beating them.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you want to play Mahomes in a wild

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Speaker 5: card game?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Like just like that, you're one and done and all

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Speaker 5: this great juju that we have this season.

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Speaker 4: So you've already lost the game.

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Speaker 5: I'm not saying you've already lost.

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Speaker 4: Each other said that, just like that, you're one of them.

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Speaker 5: Because comparatively speaking to what you normally would draw as

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Speaker 5: the seventh seed in the AFC, as a two seed.

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Speaker 3: Jacksonville who says we're going to be the seed.

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Speaker 5: Now, if that happens to be the Cats, we are

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Speaker 5: right now, they are the current two seed, and they

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Speaker 5: right now would face the Jaguars, which I think I'd

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Speaker 5: picked the Patriots to win the jackson against Jacksonville here

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Speaker 5: in January, when it's gonna be like twenty degrees, I

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Speaker 5: think I'd picked the Patriots to win that game by

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Speaker 5: three touchdowns. Okay, but if you have all of a sudden,

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Speaker 5: you're playing one of those teams, and now we're gonna lose,

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Speaker 5: it's just a bad draws.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna lose. Why are you being why? Why you

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Speaker 2: it's just a bad draw?

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Speaker 5: We can't bad draw.

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Speaker 4: I just don't like the fear.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why that has to be classified as

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Speaker 2: Baltimore and Kansas City and Buffalo and you don't equate them.

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Speaker 3: With so all all seasons, the Jaguars or the Chargers,

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Speaker 3: all season were being told you got an easy schedule,

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Speaker 4: Then you get to the playoffs and you want more

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Speaker 2: Yes, who wouldn't you know?

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Speaker 3: Who taught me that? Fred Kurk, not me, Not me.

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Speaker 3: I take on all comers. Oh, I take on all comers.

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Speaker 5: I mean especially without the second by like you're playing

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Speaker 5: on wild card weekend. Unless you're the one seed and

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Speaker 5: you get Lamar Jackson on wild no one wants that.

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Speaker 5: Who would want that?

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Speaker 2: I mean Fred wantson. I mean that you can't win,

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Speaker 2: like Fred's this whole fear thing. It's just no, you're

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Speaker 2: comparing like you can get a seventh seed or a

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Speaker 2: six seed as opposed to a team like Baltimore who

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Speaker 2: had all kinds of things happened negatively in the first

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Speaker 2: six weeks of the season. If they end up turning

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Speaker 2: to doing and they're say, I don't know, a twelve

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Speaker 2: win team and eleven win team and they go into

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Speaker 2: the playoffs of the seventh seed, that's better than playing Jacksonville.

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Speaker 2: I Mean what came to my mind was that Buffalo

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Speaker 9: Into I think I suck Greg Rosenthal, but like mash

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Speaker 9: the seventeen button, like now it's just.

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Speaker 2: They're getting down to the stretch.

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Speaker 9: They're going to lean into their MVP player Josh Allen,

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Speaker 9: and I think that's you know what you're going to

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Speaker 2: That's the guy that's going to come in here is

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Speaker 2: you know, it's not going to be Hey, let's wrest

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Speaker 4: Why do they have to be?

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Speaker 9: Part of the rule change of that teams can play

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Speaker 3: All, obviously they can. But like I mean asking why

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Speaker 2: Gods, Yeah, I didn't down. I think it's ridiculous that

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Speaker 4: Two, it is.

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Speaker 2: And that's why.

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Speaker 3: So you're saying everyone hates the Bills.

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Speaker 3: A reserve for the Patriots, right, everybody hates I'm not

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Speaker 2: That, you know, I know, thanksgivings a little different because sometimes, yeah,

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Speaker 4: But I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes I think you're someselves, you know, like the request

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Speaker 2: Out having any of the information, I can't imagine anyone's

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Speaker 4: I didn't say they asked for that.

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Speaker 3: I said that because of other requests they made, they

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Speaker 2: Like can you give me like an example, like we.

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Speaker 4: Have concerts or soccer games or whatever.

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Speaker 2: They need a road game in week fourteen.

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Speaker 2: I don't mean you have to play on Thursday.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like, like you said, no team request

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Speaker 2: Games, but no team would make a request that would

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Speaker 2: That's That's what I'm saying. Who knows that, but someone

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Speaker 3: This some reason weird, There some reason why they ended

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Speaker 2: It, and they're probably not the only one. I just

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Speaker 2: they're playing Thursday turn around.

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Speaker 2: No, It's funny when we all get to watch football

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Speaker 4: It's not just theriots.

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Speaker 2: Can I just tie you spend your day? What a

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Speaker 2: games that went right down? Knowing that I enjoyed the

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Speaker 2: first of all, there were four really good matchups, but

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Speaker 4: Houston was at least two overtime games, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the morning game, which sent sent coaching back decades.

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Speaker 2: Well, it didn't help with if they had just kicked

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Speaker 5: When I was watching Bucks Bills, I started to really

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Speaker 5: be even more thankful for Mike Rabel and Stretch because

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Speaker 5: watching Todd Bowles punt the ball back to Buffalo repeatedly.

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Speaker 2: With this much was just that was ridiculous. I'm totally with.

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Speaker 5: It, agonizing three times in that game, and I'm sitting

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Speaker 5: there and I'm rooting hard for the Bucks, right, I'm like,

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Speaker 5: let's go Tampa Bay and they're going toe to toe.

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Speaker 5: Baker's going right down the field on that Bill's defense, and.

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Speaker 2: It's declared this is a shootout. You know what it

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Speaker 5: And he's punting the day with from on the other

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Speaker 5: And I I know not to like be that guy,

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Speaker 5: I'm like, how are we were punting? They punted the

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Speaker 2: And you know your funny part about that is and

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Speaker 2: And then they actually stopped him. They had a quick

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you can't do that. But even if you

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Speaker 3: He can't any opening. You can't grab any opening.

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Speaker 2: Separate rule for that.

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Speaker 9: But you know what I enjoyed, Fred was I wasn't afraid,

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Speaker 9: and I'm like, what is this two thousand and five,

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Speaker 2: You know, it's like right back to the old you know,

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Speaker 2: like I said, two thousand and five. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: perfect example right there. The fifth like Denver has the

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Speaker 2: Just you need you want Denver to lose, you want

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Speaker 5: Yet except when the Patriots and the number one see

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Speaker 2: But you don't need that to get the number one seed.

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Speaker 5: And the number one seeds.

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Speaker 2: Well, like Mike said, heading into the Sunday games, they

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Speaker 2: just the visuals have played an extra game in the conference.

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Speaker 2: I just like the visual it's meaningless.

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Speaker 3: Well even even like I saw the passing leaders. Drake

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Speaker 3: May's number one right now, but he also most of

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Speaker 2: You're talking about in yards Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's yeah,

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Speaker 2: so there's a good one. You talk about things that happened.

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Speaker 2: Maybe this isn't necessarily team related, but it was a

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Speaker 2: good weekend for Drake May's MVP candidates. Yea, right, yeah,

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Speaker 3: So cruss him off the this thing, right, Although.

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Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford was very average, I mean, he didn't play

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Speaker 2: have gaudy stats. Good week, good week for Drake May's Canadas.

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Speaker 2: You know, look, Josh Allen, what I was just gonna say.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I honestly don't think he's really in it.

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Speaker 5: Six touchdowns, I do, he's well, he's in and off

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Speaker 3: I'm assuming and that he keeps playing.

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Speaker 2: He did throw two picks, one of which was absolutely horrific.

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Speaker 2: The other one was meaningless. It was a fourth down

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Speaker 5: Hard to uh if you're just looking at the MVP

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Speaker 3: I was thinking about, like the MVP, and you know

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Speaker 2: But yeah, very you know, that's my philosophy on the MVP.

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Speaker 5: Laid out who elevates the team the most?

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Speaker 2: But who wants to tell?

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Speaker 9: Who wants to go tell the Patriots like the reason

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Speaker 3: You know, well it just you don't want to use

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Speaker 5: this is what This was what the voters, most of

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Speaker 5: to do what he did. And so Josh Allen won

443
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Speaker 5: the MVP. And if we're going to go off the

444
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Speaker 5: same set of circumstances, you know, the same rule, then

445
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Speaker 5: I think it's hard to argue that the other guys

446
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Speaker 5: that are in the conversation, it's not the same thing.

447
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Speaker 2: So the argument I made last week. Now, Matthew Stafford,

448
00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:13,800
Speaker 2: who I think has had an MVP year, eye popping

449
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Speaker 2: stats for Matthew Stafford, but he.

450
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Speaker 5: Has Pookin Decour and Devonte and.

451
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Speaker 2: Kyn Williams and Devonte Adams who has I think ten touchdowns.

452
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Speaker 2: Now Drake doesn't have all that. Now I'm not saying

453
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Speaker 2: that Drake has got nothing, but he doesn't have you know,

454
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Speaker 2: a top five receiver in the league. So I think

455
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Speaker 2: you get extra points for that.

456
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Speaker 3: Another thing that over the weekend that I kind of

457
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Speaker 3: thought this going into the weekend, but this weekend confirmed

458
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Speaker 3: me one of the best offensive players in the AFC,

459
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Speaker 3: if not.

460
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Speaker 2: The league is a chain. Oh.

461
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Speaker 3: I mean, he is such a double threat and he's

462
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Speaker 3: so good. He is so good. He's the best offensive

463
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Speaker 3: player on that team, which is saying a lot and

464
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Speaker 3: I just have a lot of respect for that guy.

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Speaker 2: He's a good player, yeah, absolutely, yeahs to get down

466
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Speaker 2: in bounds though, don't step out of bound.

467
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Speaker 3: Yeah, But in terms of just the talent, you know,

468
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Speaker 3: he's driving that team right now.

469
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Speaker 9: You guys think mc daniel's really going to survive like

470
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Speaker 9: I would just as a Dolphins fan. I think I

471
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Speaker 9: would be kind of disappointed if if they were going

472
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Speaker 9: to try to sell me on let's run it back

473
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Speaker 9: with two and McDaniel.

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Speaker 3: I think it just depends on what they do with GM.

475
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Speaker 3: If the GM doesn't have any juice, then he stays.

476
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Speaker 3: If not, he could go.

477
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that there's a So Miami is not good,

478
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Speaker 2: and I'm not suggesting they are. I will say they're

479
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Speaker 2: playing hard, and I think their schedule gets very light,

480
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Speaker 2: and I think they're going to win some games. And

481
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Speaker 2: if they do, if they take care of business and

482
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Speaker 2: win these games, I think he probably will stay. The

483
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Speaker 2: quarterback is going to stay because I think it's really money.

484
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Speaker 2: The money will kill them, like and it's cash. I'm

485
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Speaker 2: not talking about cap dead money, No, I'm talking about

486
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Speaker 2: money they owe him.

487
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Speaker 4: If that becomes dead mind, if they get rid of.

488
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't really care about the cap. I'm talking

489
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Speaker 2: about cash. They have to pay him to not play

490
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Speaker 2: for them. I don't think that they will do well.

491
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Speaker 4: Don't they have to pay it for him to play

492
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Speaker 4: as well?

493
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's playing for you. You he's your quarterback.

494
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Speaker 2: That it's different.

495
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Speaker 3: So in other way, and I don't have the DT,

496
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Speaker 3: you might be right, you'd be paying double. You're saying

497
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Speaker 3: you're paying double if they bring in.

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Speaker 2: Another I think I saw something that they owe.

499
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Speaker 5: Him, probably lifety sixty million.

500
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought I saw forty six. But yeah, so yeah,

501
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Speaker 2: it's not in cash, but they have to. They're obligated

502
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Speaker 2: to pay him.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

504
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Speaker 2: Yeah, like no one's going to trade for him. That's

505
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Speaker 2: the only way you get out of paying him that money.

506
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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

507
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Speaker 5: I think you always get into a tough spot with

508
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Speaker 5: coaches like McDaniel where you're not going to find a

509
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Speaker 5: better offensive architect than Mike McDaniel, but you might find

510
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Speaker 5: like the whole leader amend thing right, like a better

511
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Speaker 5: head coach yep than Mike McDaniel. And so it's a

512
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Speaker 5: tough it's always toime.

513
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Speaker 2: If they could do the reverse of Vance Joseph with

514
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Speaker 2: him to send him to the offensive coordinator. Yeah, like

515
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Speaker 2: bring in a coach to oversee it and say, but

516
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Speaker 2: but we love what you do with the offense, Mike, Yeah,

517
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Speaker 2: team anymore. Yeah, Like Denver is probably the best defense

518
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Speaker 2: in football.

519
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Speaker 3: So ESPN is talking about the Kansas City Colts matchup

520
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Speaker 3: coming up this Sunday. I mean, listen, Patriots fans, you

521
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Speaker 3: have to be rooting hard for Mahomes this week.

522
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Speaker 4: You have to.

523
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Speaker 3: We need the Colts to lose, so you know, no.

524
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Speaker 4: Come on, we're gonna get that one.

525
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Speaker 2: Number one Sea.

526
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Speaker 4: I want to remove all doubt.

527
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Speaker 2: I'm with you because I'm focused on trying to get

528
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Speaker 2: the top seed. If I'm if I'm the Patriots, that's

529
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Speaker 2: that's my goal. It's worth everything.

530
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Speaker 9: I mean, have a buy nowadays, there's only one left.

531
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Speaker 9: I mean, that's and we'll see then who the bottom

532
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Speaker 9: seat is waiting for you at the other side.

533
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Speaker 3: But yeah, and listen, I hear what you're saying. Mahomes

534
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Speaker 3: is Mahomes, But I'm not sure. I wouldn't rather have

535
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Speaker 3: Mahomes coming to Gellette than us going to Denver.

536
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Speaker 2: Absolutely rather have Mahomes coming to Gillette than going to Denver.

537
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Speaker 2: But I'd rather go to Indye than have Mahomes come

538
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Speaker 2: to July.

539
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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, you can always say that rather but yeah,

540
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Speaker 4: at the end of the day.

541
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Speaker 5: My chances against bo Knicks in the playoffs not.

542
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Speaker 2: In that building. Even Brady couldn't win there consistently. It's tough.

543
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Speaker 2: Four and seven, Yeah, Brady and Bill were four and

544
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Speaker 2: seven in Denver, three playoff losses there too, and three

545
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Speaker 2: in the playoffs.

546
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Speaker 7: Yeah.

547
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Speaker 5: I don't know. I just I don't want. I would

548
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Speaker 5: prefer a playoff picture if I was the Patriots that

549
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Speaker 5: doesn't have Lamar or.

550
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Speaker 7: Mahomes in it.

551
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Speaker 5: But so whatever, whatever has to happen to make that

552
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Speaker 5: happen than five.

553
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Speaker 3: But here we are, after eleven games, talking about playoff

554
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Speaker 3: seeding because.

555
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Speaker 5: It's crazy, but it's crazy it receeds. So like if

556
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Speaker 5: even if you get the number one seed and you

557
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Speaker 5: have a buye to the divisional round and they upset

558
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Speaker 5: somebody in the first round, which they probably will, then

559
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Speaker 5: the divisional round is now Mahomes or Lamar Jackson coming

560
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Speaker 5: to New England. So whatever keeps those two guys out

561
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Speaker 5: of the wild card, now Baltimore might win the division.

562
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that you might.

563
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Speaker 5: You might get lucky that Baltimore might.

564
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Speaker 2: Don't like to tell people what they should think, so

565
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Speaker 2: I'm going to say this anyway, that's not what I mean.

566
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 2: I don't mean to, but that's what you should be

567
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 2: rooting for with Baltimore. Is that that they overtake Pittsburgh

568
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 2: and win the division, and then you wouldn't have to

569
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 2: see them, right, more than likely until later on.

570
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Speaker 9: I think, to Evan's point, like set up Josh Allen

571
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Speaker 9: to have to play one of those teams, Like you know,

572
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Speaker 9: you want like the Bills Chiefs matchup in the first round.

573
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Speaker 9: You want the Bills Ravens somehow, you know, get try

574
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Speaker 9: to get one of those guys out asap.

575
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Speaker 5: But like if you end up losing, give me the

576
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Speaker 5: march the Tomato Cans.

577
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Speaker 4: Do you think there are any team saying we don't

578
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Speaker 4: want to be playing the Patriots.

579
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Speaker 2: No?

580
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Speaker 5: No, really, I think you're like kind of spinning. You're

581
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Speaker 5: saying like you don't want to play, like I think

582
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Speaker 5: they're like automatically going to lose. I just want the

583
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Speaker 5: easiest path.

584
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Speaker 2: Like to be clear, I don't think anybody's saying that

585
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 2: about Denver or Indy either. I think the people will

586
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 2: focus on five, six and seven, not one, two and three. Yep, No,

587
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Speaker 2: I think that's fair. But is there a chance that

588
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Speaker 2: those teams just aren't as good as they used to be? Y?

589
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, But just like there is a chance there

590
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 5: was a chance in twenty eighteen that the Patriots just

591
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 5: weren't as good as they used to be.

592
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Speaker 9: Yeah, and then you got to the playoffs and they

593
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 9: kicked into another gear. And that's I think what everybody's

594
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 9: waiting for with Kansas City Baltimore's sure, you know, you

595
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 9: just assume we'll be the team to knock him off.

596
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we'll see.

597
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Speaker 9: I mean, I just I think every one of these

598
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 9: games is a coin flip, whether it's Kansas City coming

599
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 9: here or you know, I think the Patriots have a

600
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Speaker 9: chance against everybody, and I think everybody has a chance

601
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Speaker 9: against the Patriots, But the Bigs last six games.

602
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a lot that can happen.

603
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Speaker 9: As Milton Williams come back and he's healthy and ready

604
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Speaker 9: to go in prime for the playoffs, like that might be.

605
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Speaker 2: You guys work out more in tune with this stuff

606
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Speaker 2: because you pay attention. Is there any information about Milton

607
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Speaker 2: Williams beyond ir like anybody thin four to six weeks?

608
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Speaker 5: Okay, that's what they're reporting is right now.

609
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 2: And because those high ankle sprains we know can be

610
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 2: a lot of you know, variants. Yes, it feels like

611
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 2: the optimistic view would be that he'd be the fact that.

612
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Speaker 3: He came out and played after the injury for a

613
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Speaker 3: few plays.

614
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Speaker 9: Feel because Gronk came back and played at the end

615
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 9: of the AFC Championship right like in that twenty eleven

616
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Speaker 9: like didn't come on just block or something, and he did.

617
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Speaker 2: He was just I think that's the thing with his

618
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 2: point is he came back and played on it in

619
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Speaker 2: the AFC Championship game, and two weeks later he couldn't.

620
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Speaker 9: Like, I just I think that's the high ankle sprain.

621
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Speaker 9: It's it's it's not like this killer pain, but you

622
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Speaker 9: just have no juice to push off anymore, and so

623
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Speaker 9: you know, it's it's one of those weird ones.

624
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Speaker 5: It also it swells overnight, didn't Jones?

625
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Speaker 3: Matt Jones had the high ankle sprain famously. Now how

626
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Speaker 3: long come back?

627
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Speaker 5: He came back in a month, Yeah, a month of

628
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Speaker 5: three to four weeks. But I think the biggest thing,

629
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Speaker 5: right is that, like, dude, does he have a procedure

630
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 5: on it, like the tightrope to try to expedite recovery

631
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Speaker 5: or do they think that rest and rehab and all

632
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 5: that good stuff is going to do the trick Because

633
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Speaker 5: a lot of guys go and get they get procedures done.

634
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 2: If they should have him back for the stretch and

635
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 2: you know in the playoffs that you know that'll be

636
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 2: that's a relief, but it is it's a bummer that

637
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 2: he misses Baltimore and Buffalo. Yeah, any game, right, I mean,

638
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 2: like those two games, they're gonna need to have surgery

639
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 2: so he can get back for the Miami and the Jets. Like,

640
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 2: like I I'd prefer to avoid surgery whenever possible and

641
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 2: you know, let him try to get healthy on his own.

642
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 2: But I mean it's one of those injuries where there

643
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 2: seems like there's a wide range of recovery, time, severity,

644
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 2: all that things it does. He's been their best probably

645
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 2: their best defensive player. Yeah, so it's it's a loss now.

646
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 2: I do think, and I was listening to Evans Boy

647
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 2: Alex Bathy, I do think they have some depth that

648
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: that'spot They don't have Milton Williams. So I know some

649
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 2: people sort of attacked Alex are being too rosy about this.

650
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 2: He's not suggesting that you don't need Milton Williams, but

651
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 2: they do have kind of a one, A and one

652
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 2: you know, with Barmore, So they have a really good player.

653
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 2: Now Tonga probably plays a little bit more.

654
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 7: Now.

655
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Speaker 2: The big question to me is those guys that sort

656
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 2: of see sporadic playing time, can any of them play

657
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 2: with the same effectiveness with more with more playing time,

658
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 2: you know, like those those two that Mike just mentioned him.

659
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 2: You know, Dirtin he goes out there and he tends

660
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 2: to flash a little bit in his handful of plays

661
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:24,719
Speaker 2: that he gets every game. If you're going to ask

662
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 2: him to play twenty plays, now, does he flash? I

663
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 2: don't know, we haven't seen it. You know, I'm not

664
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 2: saying it's really good.

665
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 5: He's been really kind of sneaky good for a while now, Dirtin,

666
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 5: and they hope that he can step up. And he

667
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 5: was the guy that played a lot on third down

668
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 5: once Milon Williams went out of the game. It was

669
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 5: kind of him and bar More inside and then Tonga

670
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 5: just you know, short yardage when it's you know, third

671
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 5: and one, third and two, obviously you're gonna have Toga

672
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 5: in there, but Dirtin is kind of going to be

673
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 5: the other guy now, and you just hope that that

674
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 5: maybe they can do some of this.

675
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 3: You think this kind of mini break can help Landry

676
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,239
Speaker 3: get back into shape or is what he is now

677
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 3: going to be what he is for the rest of

678
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 3: the season.

679
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, you hope.

680
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 2: It's a great question, Fred I think that's a great questions.

681
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 2: Is he is he hurt or is he slowing down?

682
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 2: Or Richard? And yeah, he injured.

683
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 9: It does sound like the Swinson move is more somebody

684
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 9: wanted to poach him. But I also think that the

685
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 9: pass rush needs to improve, it needs to be better,

686
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 9: and they just they haven't been quite consistent enough.

687
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 3: Because listen, no one is Milton Williams, so there's going

688
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 3: to be a drop off. And when you have bomb

689
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 3: War and Williams in the middle, that creates that push

690
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 3: They don't. It doesn't always register for a sack, but

691
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 3: it it gives the quarterback less room to maneuver, and

692
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 3: you're going to lose some of that. So pressure needs

693
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 3: to come from other places too.

694
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 5: Ponder's gone in there, He's giving them a little bit.

695
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 5: I don't know if he's quite surpassed Landry yet, but

696
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 5: I think that that's closer than maybe you would have

697
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 5: imagined it being. And then, you know, I think that's

698
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 5: the biggest thing, is they already had like an average

699
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 5: four man pass rush, and so now can you generate

700
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 5: pressure with just four without Milton Williams or are you

701
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 5: going to have to be more creative in the pass

702
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 5: rush and start blitzing a little bit more. And we

703
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 5: obviously know the domino effect of what that does to

704
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 5: the back end, so.

705
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 2: It's it's a whole thing, so nothing of what it

706
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 2: does to the offense. If Tonga's snaps are.

707
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 5: Affected, Yeah, I don't think that's going to happen.

708
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 7: I don't.

709
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 2: I think they'll probably leave him in a similar role defensively, don't.

710
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,959
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't if he has to play ten more

711
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 5: snaps on defense now the three snaps a game he

712
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 5: plays on offense, we have to throw those out, y know.

713
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 2: And I'm not sure that that his role is going

714
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 2: to expand dramatically defensively. Me neither because of what you said. Yeah,

715
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 2: he's kind of a niche right down.

716
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know if he's going to play on

717
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 5: third and long.

718
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 2: Although he does collapse the poppet when he's in there

719
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 2: and pass all quick. He's a wrecking ball.

720
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 9: I mean, it's been I mean that was something that

721
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 9: I have big question coming in the year behind Williams

722
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:51,719
Speaker 9: and Barmore.

723
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 2: What else did they have?

724
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 9: I mean, Tongo isn't under the radar signing Dirden. When

725
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 9: did he show up? I mean sometime in camp. I

726
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 9: don't remember.

727
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 2: Exactly what was on.

728
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 9: I think the Giants right right, right right, you know,

729
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 9: and Josh Farmer too, who's who's been a little banged up.

730
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 9: But you know, again, maybe like Travon Henderson, we get

731
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 9: a little increased opportunity here, a chance to contribute. They're

732
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 9: going to need those guys for sure, and they I

733
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 9: think they got to find some juice off the edge

734
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 9: to know.

735
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 2: I think said it perfectly.

736
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 9: It sounds stupid, but like they have an average pass rush,

737
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 9: they're an a you know, for all the praise we

738
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 9: heap on them for how aggressive they are, at the

739
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 9: end of the day, you know, it's it's not quite this,

740
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 9: you know, top notch pass rush that.

741
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 2: We'll turn the page tomorrow to the Bengals. But I

742
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 2: think that's going to be a big part. I mean,

743
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 2: Joe Joe Flacco does not move well anymore. He's forty

744
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 2: years old. He's not gonna want to stand in there

745
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 2: and take hits. They're starting to add up to that,

746
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 2: you see that you don't want to devote too much

747
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 2: in terms of you don't want to get too aggressive

748
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 2: the way you go after him, because you need the

749
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 2: guys in coverage even if Chase doesn't win his appeal

750
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 2: on the.

751
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 3: Other side of the ball. I know Tomorrow's turned the

752
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 3: page day, but Hendrickson out for the game.

753
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he hasn't played while doubtful. Doubtful, yeah, Zach

754
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 5: Taylor said.

755
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 3: And then Chase with their with their appeal, what do

756
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 3: you think the chances of that getting overturned?

757
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 5: Very slim slim.

758
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got the approved film with that. That was

759
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 2: one giant lungy.

760
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 3: Well, and the thing is, he's like, well mate. The

761
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 3: only defense I could see him saying is I was

762
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 3: just talking and it came out. But I don't think

763
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 3: the other player certainly didn't think so.

764
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 2: I don't think that's much of a defense. I think

765
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 2: you spit at him.

766
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 12: Not.

767
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 2: My only thing is it's unprecedented. The suspension is unprecedented.

768
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 2: It's a fine until now. So that's the only thing

769
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 2: I will And the guy in the beginning of the season,

770
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 2: because he got he got ejected from that game. He

771
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 2: did not get suspended, but will you let me finish

772
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 2: for once? I'm just I think he's going to be suspended.

773
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to get overturned.

774
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 7: Was told.

775
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 3: Want to know that the reason why he didn't get

776
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 3: suspended because he missed the whole game, right.

777
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 4: It happened even before the first snap.

778
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 2: And it's so so still no one who's ever spit

779
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 2: on somebody has been.

780
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 4: Suspended, I understand.

781
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 3: But they said that he would have been had it

782
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 3: happened later in the game chasing.

783
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,959
Speaker 9: They would have kicked chasing and he wouldn't have been.

784
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 9: He's been under suspension. They'd seen it and thrown him

785
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 9: out of the Thank you.

786
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 5: It was time served.

787
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott spit at Jalen Carter in the same game,

788
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 2: and they have it on video and they didn't suspend him.

789
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 2: Why because they deemed that it didn't hit him.

790
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 4: Did they find him.

791
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 5: On the ground generally spit at him. Let's call it

792
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 5: what it was, Okay, But I'm just telling you what

793
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 5: they the league didn't agree with you. That's just what.

794
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 2: I would disagree with.

795
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 4: But they didn't even find him.

796
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 2: I don't know what they I don't know about a fine.

797
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 2: I don't know about a fine. Okay, I didn't get suspended.

798
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 3: I think the point is with the one in the

799
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 3: beginning season, it was time served.

800
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 2: I think he is going to stay suspended. Yeah, it's

801
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 2: very However, I'm not going to be surprised if it's

802
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,959
Speaker 2: overturned because of the precedent. That's all the president. President

803
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 2: fines suspension.

804
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 5: That's not true, Paul. The president is suspension. Jalen Carter

805
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 5: got suspended. He got ejected, yes, from the game, for

806
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 5: fighting and if he had spin on the guy in

807
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 5: the second quarter what they said.

808
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,479
Speaker 2: But they've never done it. But he's what I'm saying,

809
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 2: time sir. If they do it with this one, it

810
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: will be the first.

811
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 5: Okay.

812
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 2: And I think he should be suspended because I think

813
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 2: I saw on video he clearly spent right at him.

814
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 2: He should be suspended for that.

815
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 5: The reason.

816
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 2: I don't think there's any gray area. I think he's out.

817
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 5: The reason why I said when president, they literally said

818
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 5: it was the reason why Jim Marchin.

819
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 2: I know what they said. I don't believe them. We

820
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 2: just have a difference of opinion. I don't believe that

821
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 2: he would have been suspended.

822
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 5: And understand how this could be a difference in opinion.

823
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 2: Because he got he got ejected from the game for fighting,

824
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 2: and I don't believe they would have suspended him if

825
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 2: he hadn't gotten ejected. I don't believe it. Maybe they

826
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 2: would have. Maybe I'm wrong. We'll see. That's all I'm saying.

827
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 2: That was that was I know that that's what they said.

828
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 2: The just are the facts that Evan just Evan just

829
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 2: presented the facts, and they are undisputed, as they said,

830
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 2: and not a good message. Is exactly right, Evan is

831
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 2: one thousand percent. You're not wrong. You were not wrong.

832
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 2: Thank you. You are absolutely you guys have said exactly

833
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 2: what the league said. I don't believe the league. Okay,

834
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 2: this is what I'm trying to say to you, But

835
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 2: you guys are absolutely right, one thousand percent. That's exactly

836
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 2: what the league said.

837
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,240
Speaker 5: It's very clear that the league does not they considered

838
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 5: time served. They don't want people spinning on people. Choker

839
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,439
Speaker 5: can So that was Cowboys quarterbacks. So now it's going

840
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 5: to be this is the president that if you spin

841
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 5: on somebody, you are either going to get ejected immediately

842
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,439
Speaker 5: or suspended. And I think that that's and I will.

843
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 2: That's why it's going to be up and I'm going

844
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 2: to watch, and believe me, I will tell you if

845
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 2: I start to see suspensions for this going forward, I

846
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 2: will say, you guys were right. That was the first one,

847
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 2: was the jail and Carter one, and that's what they've

848
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 2: started to do. I don't I think they pick and choose,

849
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 2: and I think it's all about these appruval films after

850
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 2: the fact. I don't think they wanted to suspend these guys.

851
00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 2: I think they want to just find them.

852
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 5: Now do you think that this should be suspendable, because

853
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 5: yes I do. I think it's the worst thing you

854
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 5: can do, disgusting, disgusting. But it's like, I don't know.

855
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 2: I'm not telling you that, like Jamar Chase is this guy, look,

856
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 2: he lost his mind. Jalen Ramsey does this to a

857
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 2: lot of people. I'm not saying that this needs to

858
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 2: be like what Jamar Chase is known for the rest

859
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 2: of it. You can't spit on a guy yet.

860
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't want to be suspended. I don't

861
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,479
Speaker 5: want anybody anybody either. But like I know, suspensions a little.

862
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 3: I know, like everybody says, well, you know, kids are watching,

863
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 3: but it is true, and that's why they stop this because.

864
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 2: It's not watching.

865
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:36,240
Speaker 4: Kids aren't watching.

866
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 2: No, no, no, kids get better things to do.

867
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,240
Speaker 5: I just think that it's a little it's a little aggressive.

868
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 2: How much funny is he gonna lose a game? Check

869
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 2: its four and forty one expensive loogie? Yeah yeah, And

870
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 2: I like I do. I think you should be suspended

871
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 2: for that. Im out because I wanted to see Gonzo

872
00:36:58,400 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 2: going against Jamar Chase.

873
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 5: But it's like that's my point of.

874
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 2: Need. Like, so I'm flying to Cincinnati.

875
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 4: What my My entire.

876
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 5: Existence is always about my own entertainment. So the more

877
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 5: like interesting things about a game storyline wise, I'm all for.

878
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 2: So.

879
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 5: I know a lot of Patriots friends are celebrating that

880
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 5: Jamar Chase isn't going to play in this game. I'm

881
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 5: not one of them.

882
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 4: I want to you want to beat the best, Well.

883
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 5: They're gonna win anyways, So like I just much rather

884
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 5: win with everybody out there. I'd much rather be able

885
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 5: to watch Gon's over as Jamar Chase for four quarters,

886
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 5: go toe to toe, like that's just more exciting football,

887
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 5: Like this is gonna be their backup quarterback with a

888
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 5: bump shoulder. By the way, Joe Flacco is a bad shoulder.

889
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 5: And you know, without Jamar Chase and without Trey Hendrickson, Like,

890
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 5: it's just not not a whole lot, not a whole lot.

891
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 3: Okay, Kyle has something to say about Evan. He says,

892
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 3: Evan when talking about the Chiefs, you want to be

893
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 3: one and done. Evan seconds later, backpedaling, We can't just

894
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 3: say it's a bad draw. You weren't saying it was

895
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 3: a bad You were saying it's a loss. Your May

896
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 3: fan club card is revoked because you clearly don't believe

897
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 3: in him or the team. This is an over exaggerated joke,

898
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 3: but in all seriousness, I don't fear any team, and

899
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 3: I think May and the Page one can beat any

900
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 3: team in the playoffs.

901
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 4: MAYVP, MAYVP.

902
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, now I agree with that.

903
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 9: I mean, do you feel the same way about the

904
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 9: NFC though, Like I don't. I don't know if I

905
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 9: necessarily feel the same about.

906
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 2: Listen, if we have to play an NFC team, it'll

907
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 2: be in the Super Bowl. Let's go like this whole

908
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 2: classification of fear, Like, I don't know what you want

909
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 2: to call it. There are some teams i'd rather not

910
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 2: see like I don't know, Like if you want to

911
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 2: say that like that, that you're afraid or not afraid,

912
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 2: I don't care. Semanticket all you want. I don't know.

913
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 2: I would rather play Jacksonville or Indy than Baltimore or

914
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 2: Kansas City. I don't care what the records are. I would.

915
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 2: I think that they have better players than those other

916
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 2: teams do.

917
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 5: It just feels like nowadays too, like once these teams

918
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 5: are in the dance, like especially with these Hall of

919
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 5: Fame future Hall of Fame VP quarterbacks, like, but once

920
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 5: Kansas City is in the dance, I know that they

921
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 5: might have had the best season that they've ever had.

922
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 5: But if they stumble in at ten and seven or

923
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 5: nine and eight, they're still going to be a tough

924
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 5: out in the playoffs. I would just I would play

925
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 5: Denver or Indianapolis anywhere. I play him here. I play

926
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 5: them in Denver, I play them in Madrid, I play

927
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 5: them in Australia. I don't care. I am taking the

928
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 5: Patriots in that game.

929
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 2: There's funny things that happen in Denver. I don't want

930
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 2: more than anybody Fred because every game they play is

931
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 2: in Denver.

932
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 9: I get the bonix of it all though, I mean,

933
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 9: I get that what happened twenty years ago just had

934
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 9: nothing ever to do with anything.

935
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 2: Then I would say, fine, But I see the guy

936
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 2: consistently plays play mid mid football for three quarters and

937
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden he makes plays when he

938
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 2: has to, so that defense is going to keep them

939
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 2: in the game. And if he gets hot in the

940
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 2: fourth quarter and you can lose and in that in

941
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 2: that place in a four and seven, how many teams

942
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 2: is bill to do any that bad against the elevation

943
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 2: and the win?

944
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 5: Like, what is the two thousand and five playoff game

945
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 5: have anything to do with what's going to happen in

946
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 5: genuous to play?

947
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 2: If you want to say that, what does any game

948
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 2: have to do with the game that hasn't been played?

949
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 2: We can only go on history, But you're going back

950
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 2: twenty years, Like I'm not going back twenty years. I'm

951
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 2: going I'm going the whole entirety of the decade. That's

952
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: a decade, the whole entirety of honesty, they're five, four

953
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 2: and seven with the best quarterback who ever lived. They're

954
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 2: four and seven in that bill.

955
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 4: It's a tough play.

956
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 3: That's why the league lets them play there all the time, right,

957
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 3: they like it, even.

958
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 2: For everybody was trying to work a joke in there

959
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: for but you do took it home, thank you.

960
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll take the Patriots, but better coach Indy.

961
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 2: I think India. I would. I would really like that matchup.

962
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind playing Indian.

963
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 9: They say, like, oh, I think the Patriots like I

964
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 9: just think the historic context of it, the season that

965
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 9: they've had. You know, let's see what Daniel Jones has

966
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 9: in a playoff game. The Patriots run defense versus Jonathan

967
00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 9: Taylor A lot to like that.

968
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 5: I'd rather play them in Indy butt drinking A don't.

969
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 2: Know what's the weak wouldn't have any problem playing Indie Indian.

970
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 2: What's the weakest team that could make the playoffs right now?

971
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 3: Jackson Jacksonville, Houston that could Yeah, I mean probably Jacksonville.

972
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 2: You can make you can make an argument for the

973
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 2: Chargers too, because of the state that they're in. Yeah,

974
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 2: I happen to think the Chargers are not going to

975
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 2: make you know what, I'm going to change my pick Pittsburgh.

976
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh is the least talented worst team that could make

977
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 2: the playoff with Rogers he broke his break.

978
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 5: I don't know.

979
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 2: I mean he was he broke his left I agree

980
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 2: with Evan that could help him. I think I think

981
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 2: he's just sitting duck back Mason.

982
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, still terrified the pressure.

983
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 3: Dave says about the spitting, it's not about the disgusting factor.

984
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 3: It's about the immense disrespect.

985
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 2: No, that's why respect. That's why Jalen Ramsey wanted to

986
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 2: fight him. But I'm talking about it's it is discussing

987
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 2: like it's it's disgusting.

988
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, you might as well just whip it out and

989
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 4: urinate on the guy.

990
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, whoa, whoa, whoa.

991
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 3: I'm serious, Like it's just your bodily flute curl that

992
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 3: another player.

993
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 2: It is I think discussed. I think you should be suspended,

994
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 2: and I would be surprised if they overturn it.

995
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 5: They're not going to overturn it. And you don't want

996
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 5: kids doing it precedent, you.

997
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 2: Don't want anyone doing it. I don't want adults doing.

998
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 7: It, right.

999
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 2: I didn't even like it when my hockey coach was

1000
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 2: spitting dip out and back of me on the bench

1001
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 2: like he always is discussed, always had a lipper in

1002
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 2: and it was out. You know, he's just the winter

1003
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 2: green smell. He would stit on the on the ground

1004
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 2: or sit on the ground. Oh oh yeah, no, it's nasty.

1005
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 2: You get yourself a copy of you know what it

1006
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 2: was actually And.

1007
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 9: I feel bad calling him out, But little Bruins trivia.

1008
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 9: Remember Jim Stewart, Jim Stewart goalie No went to holy Cross.

1009
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 9: He played one game and he got slacked and he

1010
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 9: never he never played again. Like what year, like nineteen

1011
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 9: eighty eighty eight two somewhere in there.

1012
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 2: That's in my wheelhouse. I'm surprised. I don't. I'll send

1013
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 2: you never heard of it, all right, I'll take your

1014
00:42:58,719 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 2: word for it.

1015
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 3: Eight hundred eighty five to five PATS five hundred is

1016
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 3: the hotline podcast at Patriots dot com is the email address.

1017
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 4: I know people are.

1018
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 3: Biting, shopping a champ bit champing at the at the bite.

1019
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 3: I don't know anyway. They want to talk, so let's

1020
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 3: get the listeners involved. We'll start with, well, he's been

1021
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 3: holding on the longest Christian in LA.

1022
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 4: What's up Christian talking about you?

1023
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 13: Here?

1024
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 7: You guys?

1025
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 2: Okay, what's going on over there for you guys?

1026
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1027
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:28,720
Speaker 13: Here we will.

1028
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm in the airport.

1029
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 2: Lax Oh, changed in my regular Are you on your

1030
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 2: way to belize?

1031
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 15: I'm actually headed east to you guys.

1032
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 14: Can you hear me?

1033
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 6: Good?

1034
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, we can hear you.

1035
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 2: Keep talking, but yeah, yeah.

1036
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 15: I'm headed east to you guys. I'll be on the

1037
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 15: East coast this week end.

1038
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 2: Oh where about?

1039
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 15: But but not not but not Boston with Beverly mass too,

1040
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 15: who I usually travel with. Anyway, it seems like providence

1041
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 15: is on our side again this year because we missed

1042
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 15: Mike Evans with Tampa. We're gonna miss Jamar Chase. I

1043
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 15: don't doubt if either Lamar Jackson is gone or Josh

1044
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 15: Allen sprang to the ankle. I just feel like this

1045
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 15: is out a year. We're on our way, guys. I'm

1046
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 15: not having Milton woms. It's really going to prove. Is

1047
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 15: it our run scheme or is it our run defenders

1048
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 15: that's got us so good in the run?

1049
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 1: What do you guys think?

1050
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 15: Is it a combination of the scheme and the players

1051
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 15: or is it mainly win or the other. I'll take

1052
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 15: it off the air.

1053
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 3: Okay, So he's asking why is our run defense so good?

1054
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 3: Is it just the players or the positions? They're being

1055
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 3: put in.

1056
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 2: I think it's both. I don't know, your run defense

1057
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 2: is this good? It's hard to point it just well,

1058
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 2: it's just the scheme.

1059
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 4: I yeah, it's effort. You gotta be willing to get

1060
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 4: in there.

1061
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 2: They picked players who, you know, Evan had a good well.

1062
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,760
Speaker 9: I think it's a tweet you tweeted about their mistackle

1063
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 9: rate of you know, even when they're I mean, they've

1064
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 9: gotten a lot better at it, but they just fly

1065
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 9: to the ball.

1066
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:50,919
Speaker 2: They fly to the ball. It's a totally different style

1067
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 2: of defense than what we're used to watching. And everybody's

1068
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,959
Speaker 2: bought in. Everybody plays with that uptown line.

1069
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 4: And it's not just the guys up front. Gonzo's making

1070
00:44:58,880 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 4: run stops.

1071
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 3: Arcus Jones has got his nose dirty on several plays,

1072
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 3: you know, so everybody's can it's a.

1073
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,760
Speaker 2: Whole last couple of weeks, it's been a little nine shots,

1074
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 2: five goals. That's not good, okay, one period five goals,

1075
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 2: a little a.

1076
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 5: Little bit more leaky than it had been to start

1077
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 5: the year. The last two year. Now, now Jets have

1078
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 5: a good running game. They have a good mobile quarterback

1079
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 5: or a quarterback that's mobile. I shouldn't say he's good

1080
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 5: he's a good runner.

1081
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 2: No, he's a good Yeah he is so and so

1082
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 2: I get that.

1083
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 5: But you know, last couple of weeks, it's been uh

1084
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 5: and you know, Tucker game of his life against Buffalo,

1085
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 5: So maybe he's just good. I don't know, but it's

1086
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 5: been a little bit leaky.

1087
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 7: No.

1088
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 2: I agree, there's been signs of some cracks and they

1089
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 2: weren't disasters, but they were a little bit more average

1090
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks. Yeah.

1091
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1092
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 2: Do you think it has anything to do with how

1093
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 2: the games are kind of unfolded at all? Well, I

1094
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 2: thought it was weird that they didn't run more. I

1095
00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 2: thought I thought Breese Hall looked like he had some

1096
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 2: chances to get things going and they kind of got

1097
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 2: away from him. One of those three and outs in

1098
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 2: the in the end of the first half was three

1099
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 2: straight passes, which I mean, when you have you know,

1100
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 2: a d Mitchell is the intended target, you might as

1101
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 2: well just say we're gonna just punt it too now.

1102
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 5: So I was thinking about that because the Jets sound

1103
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 5: like they're gonna bench justin fields they have for Tyrod

1104
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 5: Taylor and if Adie Mitchell catches the football, like even

1105
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 5: two out of the three are you still benching justin fields?

1106
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 5: Because I and look, I don't watch the Jets every

1107
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 5: single week. I know it hasn't been good for them

1108
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 5: offensively or for fields, but I thought he puts some

1109
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 5: throws into some competitive places.

1110
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 2: I didn't think he played a bad game, agree with you.

1111
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 5: And then to make that decision to bench him based

1112
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 5: off now, like based off that game and not for

1113
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 5: like a rookie that like maybe has something for Tyrod

1114
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 5: Taylor like and that's the part that makes no sense,

1115
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 5: and bench ad Mitchell like like Adie Mitchell was behind

1116
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 5: the defense twice and dropped the ball.

1117
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 2: And how about the crossing route that went right through

1118
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 2: his hands?

1119
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 5: Yeah right, I mean like he's behind Gonzo for a

1120
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 5: potential touchdown. The ball is Yeah, it's like maybe a

1121
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 5: little bit like of an adjustment, But you know, Kaishan

1122
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 5: Boody is making that catch ten out of a time

1123
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 5: time this.

1124
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 2: I don't think there's very many receivers in football that

1125
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 2: don't make that touch other than it was a fine ball.

1126
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 2: He's waiting on the line.

1127
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 5: That was the game that decided that put put it

1128
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 5: over the top.

1129
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 2: We have but again, Like, and I know they wanted

1130
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,439
Speaker 2: to play Taylor, and my guess is Taylor wasn't quite

1131
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 2: healthy enough to play. But if you had, Like I'm

1132
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 2: just looking on ESPN, they got some stuff with Shedea Sanders,

1133
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:42,879
Speaker 2: Like if you let Shedea Sanders and you're like, he's

1134
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 2: a third string quarterback, you know what, let's just go,

1135
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 2: let's see maybe there's something there. We'll go to him.

1136
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 2: Taylor was a career backup.

1137
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 7: He is what he is.

1138
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 2: He's fine, like he's but you're gonna make Why wouldn't

1139
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 2: you just play Justin Fields the last six weeks? Maybe

1140
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 2: he gets hot and you might already said I'm moving

1141
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 2: on from Justin Fields no matter what. I don't care

1142
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 2: how well he plays, you might be able to do

1143
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 2: something with him, Like, I don't know, Like it just

1144
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 2: makes no sense to bench a quarterback for Tyrod Taylor, Right,

1145
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 2: what are you gonna learn when you have two wins?

1146
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 2: Makes no sense. It's typical Jets, Jets jetting.

1147
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 4: Eldred, you want to talk about Adie Mitchell? What's up? Eldred?

1148
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 2: Oh boy?

1149
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 4: Hey all right?

1150
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 6: Hey, hell yeah, I'm still taking you still take them?

1151
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 4: You don't care?

1152
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 6: Attitude?

1153
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, all drops, Mitchell, you'll take him. That's what

1154
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 4: it was.

1155
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 2: It was pretty much all drops.

1156
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 6: I know he dropped, but like I said, I think

1157
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 6: the attitude. I think he's still a man. Because he

1158
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 6: got traded, I don't think anything to say about it.

1159
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 6: But he did burn our all star cornerback three times

1160
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:56,439
Speaker 6: he got open.

1161
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 4: Would Yeah that's true.

1162
00:48:58,239 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 6: We got open more than one.

1163
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 4: But that's only half the battle.

1164
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 6: And I would take him, but I can't tell you

1165
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 6: if we had him and May would throw to him,

1166
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 6: he wouldn't drop him. Okay, I still take him. But

1167
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:13,240
Speaker 6: my question is this this what scares me. I'm with you, havn't.

1168
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 6: I don't want to see the Chiefs or Baltimore in

1169
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 6: the playoffs, not one of them. But my question is

1170
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 6: if they want coverage with average teams, what they're gonna

1171
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 6: do against a good team? And I take it off

1172
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 6: the air.

1173
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was one of my biggest takeaways from this game.

1174
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 5: Like you don't watch the film through the prism of

1175
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 5: was it good enough to beat Justin Fields and the Jets.

1176
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,439
Speaker 5: He isn't good enough, gonna be good enough down the line.

1177
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 5: And I thought Drake May played one of his best

1178
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 5: games in a while. I think really like I thought

1179
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 5: he made one bad throw the entire night to the

1180
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,919
Speaker 5: deep ball to Kyle Williams was underthrown, but I thought

1181
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 5: that was really his only true negative play the entire night.

1182
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 5: But defensively, they they have some issues. You know, they

1183
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 5: have some coverage issues that can iinued to creep up

1184
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 5: every single week, And I think that the what you

1185
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 5: worry about is when you get into the playoffs and

1186
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 5: you know you're facing a great quarterback, will that quarterback

1187
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 5: be consistent to just kind of nickel and dime down

1188
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 5: the field on them, because I do think that those

1189
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 5: soft zones are playing on early down some of the

1190
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 5: man coverage stuff. You might not they might not be

1191
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 5: hitting the explosives down the field like they were at

1192
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 5: the beginning of the year, but there's a lot of

1193
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 5: stuff underneath that's open that if you just have a

1194
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 5: quarterback that's willing to play on schedule and just kind

1195
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 5: of maticulate the ball and march the ball and can

1196
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 5: do that consistently, then they don't give a lot of

1197
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 5: resistance at times on first and second down. So I'm

1198
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 5: with Eldred. I think that there are some cracks in

1199
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 5: that foundation.

1200
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike and I talked in the postgame show a

1201
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 2: little bit, and you know, we kind of remember, we

1202
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 2: kind of disagreed a little because we talked about the

1203
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 2: opening drive again, which has been an ongoing theme. But then,

1204
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 2: you know, Mike was like, and then you know, they

1205
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 2: just you know, they settled down and shut it down.

1206
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,320
Speaker 2: And I was like, I don't think they shut it

1207
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 2: down in this game as much as you remember. And

1208
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 2: they were three straight three and outs. We talked about this.

1209
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 2: One of those three and outs included some of these

1210
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 2: drops from ad Mitchell. But the second half, the Jets

1211
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 2: really moved the ball every time they had it. The

1212
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 2: only time they didn't move the ball in the second

1213
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 2: half was when they fumbled on the first play, and

1214
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 2: that that was just a fumbled snap. It wasn't anything

1215
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 2: the Patriots did. They moved the ball reasonably well, they

1216
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 2: scored a touchdown, they got down in scoring position and

1217
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 2: turned it over on downs inside the ten. I think

1218
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 2: another time, like it wasn't great defense, you know, considering

1219
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 2: the opponent. Now you look at the numbers and it's like, whatever,

1220
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 2: it was two and forty five yards of offense, that's

1221
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 2: that's not good. But eight for fourteen on third down

1222
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 2: for a team that can't move the ball, they haven't

1223
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 2: moved it against anybody. I think the biggest concern that

1224
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 2: you have for Pittsburgh opening Day.

1225
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 5: So the Jets didn't win a lot of three by

1226
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 5: one in this game, and the Patriots kept Gonzo on

1227
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 5: the boundary in three by one. So what the Jets

1228
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 5: were doing was they were just putting a tight end

1229
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 5: outside on Gonzo. So Gonzo is covering a tight end

1230
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 5: and then inside the slot. Their number three receiver was

1231
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,760
Speaker 5: Mechi most of the time had one of the safeties

1232
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 5: either Hawkins or Woodson on him and beat them two

1233
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 5: or three times, uh one for a touchdown one eighteen

1234
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 5: yarder crossing route over the middle of the field. Similar

1235
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 5: thing kind of happened with with the you know the

1236
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 5: motion that that led to one of those Mitchell drops

1237
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 5: as well. So I just when you play man coverage,

1238
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 5: like the best man coverage, teams dictate matchups, like they say,

1239
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 5: they shadow receivers and they're not going to allow safeties

1240
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 5: to get on wide receivers. You know they're gonna say, well,

1241
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 5: if your tight ends flexed out and he's the one

1242
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 5: guy over there, then We're just gonna put Gonzo inside

1243
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 5: the slot over the three receiver side, and we're gonna

1244
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 5: put the safety over the tight end. And so just

1245
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:05,240
Speaker 5: trying to be better about dictating those types of matchups

1246
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 5: because you don't want to get stuck in a position

1247
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 5: where Jalen Hawkins is trying to run across the field

1248
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 5: with Yoshivas this weekend in Cincinnati and Gonzo's got Drew sample,

1249
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 5: you know, like it just that doesn't make logical sense.

1250
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 4: Let's see Mitch is in Texas.

1251
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 10: Hey, Mitchyay, it's a long time listener. Thanks for taking

1252
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 10: my call. So my question is really in statement, is

1253
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 10: really on the run game. I know there's been feels

1254
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 10: like the past few weeks kind of a pessimism or

1255
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 10: negativity around the success of the run games. And I

1256
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 10: feel like, especially the past few weeks of really liked

1257
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 10: the balance when you look at the attempts per game

1258
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 10: or third in the league in attempts per game, and

1259
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 10: although we're middle of the pack and just you know,

1260
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 10: yards per carry, a lot of the team's Eagles chiefs

1261
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:58,280
Speaker 10: rams are all right with us. Their consistency and ability

1262
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,320
Speaker 10: to run. I feel like inside the twenty in the

1263
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 10: red zone has been really, really good, So just curious

1264
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 10: to hear your thoughts and the success there, and I'll

1265
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 10: take my call off here.

1266
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:14,280
Speaker 5: Slowly improving up a lot of the you know, DVOA, EPA,

1267
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 5: all that stuff is there. They were thirty second in

1268
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 5: the league and run in the run game for a

1269
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 5: lot of the season, and now they're like twenty six

1270
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 5: instead of thirty second, So it's getting somewhat better. And

1271
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 5: I think, you know, Trevon Henderson's breakouts obviously a huge

1272
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 5: part of that. That's really helped me.

1273
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 2: How much do you point to like four plays you

1274
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 2: know that have helped me move along? It's just, yeah,

1275
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 2: I mean the numbers, like I'm not surprised to see

1276
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,240
Speaker 2: that the attempts is that what he could? Yeah, they've

1277
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 2: stuck with it, Like Josh has done a really good

1278
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 2: job of sticking with the run all year despite the

1279
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,280
Speaker 2: fact that they haven't had a lot of success, because

1280
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 2: I do think there's importance to that. Evan points this

1281
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 2: out every week on certain plays that get dialed up

1282
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 2: and the just the impact that it doesn't you don't

1283
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 2: have to run effectively to run play action in different

1284
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 2: kinds of actions and stuff. Like that. I think Henderson

1285
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 2: has given them a little bit of juice. But really,

1286
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 2: you know, the two long runs aside in Tampa, the

1287
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 2: production hasn't really been there. I don't care. I think

1288
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 2: this value in the attempts and I think that's what

1289
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 2: Josh has been doing and I think he'll continue to

1290
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 2: do that. I think he believes in it.

1291
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's their balance is important, and I think especially

1292
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 5: out of twelve personnel, when they put both tight ends

1293
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 5: on the field. When they can be balanced out of twelve,

1294
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 5: then in the passing game, you can come out and

1295
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 5: you can force defenses to play nickel or base against twelve,

1296
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 5: and then that's when you can pass the ball out

1297
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 5: of those groupings and get those matchups. So they will

1298
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 5: come out in twelve, they'll run the ball, then they'll

1299
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 5: show the same run action and they'll hit Hunter Henry

1300
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 5: on a crossing route for like twenty yards in the

1301
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 5: game on Thursday night. You know, those types of things

1302
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 5: all marry up and set each other up off of

1303
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 5: each other. If you just start abandoning the run game

1304
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 5: because it's not productive in air quotes and all that

1305
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:02,800
Speaker 5: kind of run action stuff goes out the window.

1306
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 9: Do you connect any of that to the elevation of

1307
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 9: Dupree or is that as simple as somebody else was

1308
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 9: going to sign him, just like was rumored with Swinston,

1309
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 9: Like is there any you know, being concussed that I read,

1310
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 9: but I don't know that.

1311
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I do wonder. I kind of thought that Dupree

1312
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,280
Speaker 5: had a chance to be elevated last week.

1313
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 2: As a blocking tight end, and Mike and I talked

1314
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 2: about it in the pregame.

1315
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 5: I love Hunter Henry, He's not a blocker. Every time

1316
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 5: they ask him to max protect, he usually gives up pressure.

1317
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 5: Now you know, you know the tight end is going

1318
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 5: to lose to an edge rusher, so you're just kind

1319
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 5: of hoping that he dies slowly, like you know, like

1320
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 5: that that's the ideal thing. But I gave up a

1321
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 5: sack again last week in pass protection, so it can

1322
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 5: dupre who is a block He's like a two hundred

1323
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 5: and sixty pound tight end.

1324
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 2: Like that's what did you see from Ben Brown as

1325
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 2: the extra you know blocker.

1326
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 5: He hit a really good down block on Henderson's second touchdown. Uh,

1327
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 5: And I think that that's sort of what they're looking

1328
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 5: for there is can you know you make like a

1329
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 5: four surface side from centered over to the tight end,

1330
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 5: and can you really get that side to cave in

1331
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 5: the line of scrimmage, you know, down blocking so that

1332
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 5: you can pull from the backside like they did on

1333
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 5: that touchdown. That's exactly why you put the sixth offensive

1334
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 5: linemen on the field, is the draw it up like

1335
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 5: that and then on occasion, which they did in this

1336
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 5: game once or twice, they threw it out of six

1337
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 5: to zero line. So now you have six blockers, you know,

1338
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 5: that are all offensive linemen that can help block and

1339
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 5: load up those max protect play action and take shots

1340
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 5: down the field.

1341
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 2: The reason I asked is just because I wondered if

1342
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 2: that had something you know, they felt like, well, we

1343
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 2: don't need to elevate the guy because well, you know,

1344
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 2: we're gonna use Ben Brown in this role. And maybe

1345
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 2: they didn't think, you know, the try just looked at

1346
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 2: yet twelve plays he played. You know, maybe they didn't

1347
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 2: feel like he was great in that role and they

1348
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 2: just let's just get an actual tight end to do that.

1349
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know. I also think that there's

1350
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 2: a chance that Hooper's back right, but you know, we

1351
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 2: won't know that for sure either.

1352
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 5: So yeah, all these things are you know, very trendy

1353
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 5: in vogue around the NFL right now. You know, throwing

1354
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 5: out of heavy personnel, six offensive linemen, dropping back from

1355
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 5: under center, a quick game from under center, and these

1356
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 5: are all things that the Patriots are doing as well

1357
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 5: at a really high level and having a ton of

1358
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 5: success with it.

1359
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 3: Did Bart Scott say it's disrespectful that Drake May is

1360
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 3: in the MVP conversation?

1361
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 5: Did and he said it was disrespectful to Stafford and

1362
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 5: Sam Darnold.

1363
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 2: I believe he did say that.

1364
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 3: He said it's Chris and Santa Fe says, it's like

1365
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, people don't remember how bad we

1366
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 3: were last year. The mental gymnastics from Patriots haters reminds

1367
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 3: me of the Dynasty years.

1368
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 2: Disrespect that's disrespectful to Drake May. Like, I don't think

1369
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 2: that's like Drake May's played great. I don't know why

1370
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 2: that bothers Bart. But I haven't really heard like the

1371
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 2: national thing the Patriots of the national darling right now,

1372
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 2: Like I haven't heard any of that. Like the ESPN

1373
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 2: is in love with the Patriots right now.

1374
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 5: Good old Bart Scott, that's what he's quarterback but Scott

1375
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 5: is tapped.

1376
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 2: I mean, let's call it. I mean, he's out of

1377
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 2: his mind. I loved him in the O seven Ravens game,

1378
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 2: just like firing the flag into the stab.

1379
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 3: That uh Sam And Saint catharinees Evan, the self proclaimed

1380
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 3: king of the expected stats based on what should happen

1381
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 3: given historical averages in situations, is now pooh pooing Paul

1382
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 3: over him expecting the Patriots to struggle in Denver based

1383
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 3: on historical outcomes for that situation.

1384
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,439
Speaker 2: Yet he uses the same logic for wanting to play

1385
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 2: the Colts.

1386
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 5: How did I use the same logic for wanting to

1387
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 5: play the Colts.

1388
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 2: That they have good fortune against the Colts.

1389
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 5: No, it's nothing to do with that. I just like

1390
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 5: Drake May in a dome. Like I don't mean to

1391
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 5: make this about a weather thing, but like, I'll take

1392
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 5: my chances of Drake May against Daniel Jones in a

1393
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 5: playoff game, especially if you're gonna put him inside.

1394
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 2: But they don't listen, the Cults are a good team. Well,

1395
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 2: I mean I see, well, I see they're okay.

1396
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 9: Patriots struggles at Indy too, and you know, at various

1397
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 9: I'm sure I think I probably with Paul on this

1398
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 9: of like, Denver is more the area.

1399
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 2: I think that Colts team is more of the team, Yeah,

1400
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 2: Peyton Manning and I mean, of course it's tough to

1401
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 2: play inside, and it's loud, and they got good fans

1402
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 2: and all that, but still at the end of the day,

1403
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 2: it's all I mean. I saw brock Osweiler beat the

1404
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 2: Patriots in Denver. I mean, he's one of the worst

1405
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 2: quarterbacks we've seen in the last twenty years, fifteen years.

1406
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 4: I don't like them, Jeff and Canada.

1407
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 3: Sorry, Fred, I will never root for Mahomes first seed whatever.

1408
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 3: I know the logic behind what you're saying, but the

1409
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 3: heart wants what it wants. The moment I turned on

1410
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 3: that game, all I could do was enjoy the terrible performance,

1411
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 3: like the pathetic passed through that was a pick six

1412
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 3: that was called back on a weak holding call twenty

1413
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 3: yards from the play.

1414
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 2: Listen, I get that will never get old for the

1415
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,919
Speaker 2: from Patriots fans. So the Chiefs don't get the calls,

1416
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 2: get all the calls that will never get old. They do.

1417
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 2: The Chiefs punting team got called for pushing the back.

1418
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 2: The hunting team is the last time you saw that.

1419
01:00:58,640 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 4: There's two rules in the NFL.

1420
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 3: Nowadays, Denver gets more home games and the Chiefs get

1421
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 3: more calls.

1422
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 2: Don't forget Buffalo. What is Buffalo? They get all the

1423
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 2: calls too. You got to do that. You got to

1424
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 2: keep up with you behind on that one, tirads.

1425
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 5: Buffalo is a home road problem.

1426
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 2: Though Buffalo has problems period. They've been inconsistent all year.

1427
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're a weird team.

1428
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 2: They are. And what I would worry about with Buffalo again,

1429
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 2: I don't want to use the word afraid because I

1430
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:26,919
Speaker 2: know that Parish people.

1431
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 5: Apparently.

1432
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 2: What worries me about Buffalo is what Mike talked about, Like,

1433
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 2: do they get to the point in the season where

1434
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 2: they see the finish line, they see what needs to

1435
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 2: be done and they lock it in and you know,

1436
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 2: they take care of business. Now that might look silly

1437
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 2: come Thursday night. They might go to Houston. The Texans

1438
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 2: defense is excellent. I don't know if they can score

1439
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 2: with Buffalo, but they might not have to. If it's

1440
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen kind of a game, you know, and you

1441
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 2: can look at Buffalo and say, Okay, that puts some

1442
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 2: two games behind. They're probably not going to make up

1443
01:01:58,680 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 2: two games.

1444
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 5: I think the thing that worries you when you watch

1445
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 5: Buffalo is that all the trick shots that Alan has

1446
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 5: had over the last couple of years where it works. Yeah,

1447
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 5: a lot of those kind of playground plays are starting

1448
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 5: to not work all of a sudden, and it's just

1449
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 5: probably anecdotal and just a this year type of thing.

1450
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 5: But like the shovel pass that he made last week, horrific,

1451
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 5: Like that would have been like a first down. I

1452
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 5: would have been like a twenty yard play somehow that

1453
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 5: he pulled out of his butt. And now it's a

1454
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 5: pick like you know and knows, but.

1455
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 2: He pulled a touchdown out of his butt in a

1456
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 2: similar way the one to Shavers the deep ball where

1457
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 2: he's like running around, Yeah, mostly throwing across the field,

1458
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 2: like yeah, I giveth it, taketh that pick, that pick

1459
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 2: in the end zone. You can't say enough bad things

1460
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 2: about that. Yeah, he was like a ten yard chess

1461
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 2: pass how I saw it. Uh, It's kind of like

1462
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 2: the Chiefs of one score games too, where last year

1463
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 2: ten and all last year or in five this year.

1464
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 2: That's why I still would respect them, Like they're playing

1465
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 2: good teams and they're losing these one score games, so

1466
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 2: you're gonna feel like, obviously, at the end of the game,

1467
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 2: if you've won, you feel fine, But like if you

1468
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 2: were a Denver fan and that was the way the

1469
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 2: game was unfold on the other day, you think that

1470
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 2: Denver Denver was like, we got this when the other team,

1471
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 2: when Kansas City's got the role in a tie game

1472
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 2: with four minutes left, you like, we got this.

1473
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 5: Said that the Chiefs are first half team, so he

1474
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 5: felt pretty good about its John Payton at halftime shots. Wow, yeah,

1475
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 5: but I hear what you're saying.

1476
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 2: Then the Chiefs actually all played him in the second half.

1477
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, Franklin Baltimore feel like I'm one of the opposite

1478
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:36,439
Speaker 3: opinion of Evan when it comes to Denver. Yeah, sure,

1479
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 3: bo Nicks's mid as hell, But that defense they have

1480
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 3: marries a hillacious pass rush with a top five coverage

1481
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 3: unit that makes it hell on any quarterback trying to function.

1482
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 3: We've already seen May's play falter a bit these past

1483
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 3: two games against teams with a decent pass rush. Denver's,

1484
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 3: in comparison, is a completely different animal. Honestly, they're the

1485
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 3: only team I feel which poses a signal if it

1486
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 3: could matchup problem against the Patriots offense.

1487
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 5: Apparently a lot of things I said triggered people today

1488
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 5: you're doing. I hear what you're saying about Denver's defense legitimate.

1489
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 5: Their pass rush especially is extremely legitimate, probably one of

1490
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 5: the best pass rushes in the last couple of years

1491
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 5: based off of some of the metrics. I just I'm sorry,

1492
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 5: I'm just a lot of what we're seeing I think

1493
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 5: with a lot of these teams, and I guess you

1494
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 5: could put the Patriots in there too. Is like the

1495
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 5: I I was going to drive people nuts. The metrics

1496
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 5: do not back up the record like these A lot

1497
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 5: of these teams like Baltimore, Kansas City that actually have

1498
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 5: worse records, you know, they feel like, over the long run,

1499
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 5: are eventually going to be better than a lot of

1500
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 5: these teams like the Patriots, Broncos, Colts. Now, what I

1501
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 5: like about the Patriots is I trust their coach and

1502
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 5: their quarterback more than I trust these other teams. You know,

1503
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 5: I don't trust Daniel Jones and Shane Steichen in a

1504
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 5: playoff game, not yet. And I know that May hasn't

1505
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 5: done it, but Rabel has, and I trust their talent.

1506
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 5: I trust May's talent. I don't trust bo Nicks in

1507
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 5: a playoff game. And maybe he proves me wrong, and

1508
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 5: maybe he has these great fourth quarters or these great

1509
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 5: drives in the fourth quarter, or whatever you want to

1510
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 5: call it. But I take my chances. I have the

1511
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:21,959
Speaker 5: better quarterback, and I think i'd have the better head coach.

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Speaker 7: Hey, guys, how are you great? Hard? Karen is doing

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Speaker 2: Okay with Milton Williams going and I are, I'm just

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Speaker 2: curious how you feel about the depth behind him and

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Speaker 2: just which guys are kind of expecting to step up.

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Speaker 11: All the same guys that I think have been playing.

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Speaker 11: Eric Gregory played in the game for the first time.

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Speaker 11: I thought he battled and is continuing to improve on

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Speaker 11: the practice squad or see me in the show team

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Speaker 11: stuff and practice, and.

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Speaker 7: You know, we'll hopefully get Josh back.

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Speaker 11: And I would say that, you know, Farms is doing

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Speaker 11: a great job as well on the show team and

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Speaker 11: was ready to go in there at any point. So

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Speaker 11: I think we're okay there as far as the depth,

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Speaker 11: and I don't just have to keep working, keep moving on, which.

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Speaker 2: Is building this defense, you know, for the first tech put.

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Speaker 11: Is you know, we won't have Milt, you know, so

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Speaker 11: for the foreseeable future, he'll work hard to get back,

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Speaker 11: you know. So that's really where our focus is is

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Speaker 11: not so much as a reflection as it is just

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Speaker 11: focusing on how do we get the guys ready to

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Speaker 11: perform and continue to improve. The thing we're trying to

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Speaker 11: get everybody to understand is how much this is a

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Speaker 11: progress league and to be able to improve as the

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Speaker 11: season goes on. And so we'll have to do that

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Speaker 11: without Milt, who's one of our contributors, and you know,

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Speaker 11: it's a big part of what we've done.

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Speaker 7: But we'll have to do it without a Mare for

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Speaker 7: a few weeks. I know, the inevitable photomical effect that

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Speaker 7: might occur.

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Speaker 11: Does this maybe change your thinking when it comes to

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Speaker 11: using a guy like Tom gun special chief as well

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Speaker 11: about us?

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Speaker 7: One of those are things we have to consider. But

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Speaker 7: it's also.

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Speaker 11: You know, we just we have to do everything that

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Speaker 11: we can do to try to put the pieces together

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Speaker 11: to help us win. And I know that, you know,

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Speaker 11: we just have to be able to play the game

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01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 11: and put the guys where we expect them to and

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01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 11: any sort of injury can occur on any play at

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Speaker 11: any point in time in football, so.

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Speaker 7: Every play is critical.

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Speaker 11: And more block kicks this past week and on and

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Speaker 11: on and on, so we have to, uh, you know,

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Speaker 11: make sure that the eleven guys out there are the

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Speaker 11: ones that give us the best chance and in those

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Speaker 11: critical situations and kicking field goals and extra points is

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Speaker 11: a critical situation.

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Speaker 2: What have you seen from Briden Swinson on the practice squad?

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Speaker 11: Has worked hard, He's improved, and he's worked hard in

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Speaker 11: a weight room and those you know, changing his body

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01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:57,680
Speaker 11: and getting stronger and learning special teams and.

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Speaker 7: Doing a good job up there give us a great look.

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Speaker 11: And those guys coaches have done a great job of

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Speaker 11: improving a lot of those guys and hopefully getting them

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Speaker 11: ready here for when they have to play.

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Speaker 13: On him.

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Speaker 2: Is this the time of year where you got to

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Speaker 2: protect your guys?

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Speaker 9: You want to keep working with him and spend time

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Speaker 9: with like him, you know, developing as other teams can

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Speaker 9: come on your practice well guys and.

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Speaker 7: Try to take them away. You know, there's some of that.

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Speaker 11: You know, there's some of that, And again it's also

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Speaker 11: about opportunity and when we feel like they're ready for

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01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 11: it and when they've earned it, and you know, in

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Speaker 11: that case, you know, I think Branden has so we'll

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Speaker 11: have to evaluate what he can do and how he

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Speaker 11: can help us and get him ready to go.

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Speaker 13: With m Andre and Kashawan, they who saw the practica

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Speaker 13: during the short week that they ultimately didn't play on Thursday.

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Speaker 5: Do you have any update on them as a concern

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Speaker 5: he is heading into the streame.

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Speaker 11: I would expect them to be out there Wednesday, and

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Speaker 11: then again we'll see monitor how that goes. You know,

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Speaker 11: to me, when you come back, it's just about you know,

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01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 11: the volume and handling what their their normal volume would

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Speaker 11: be and can they obviously you know, do their job

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01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:16,720
Speaker 11: up to what we expect and what they expected to

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01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:20,640
Speaker 11: be and being able to protect themselves out there, like

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Speaker 11: just a.

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Speaker 2: Sort of a fall from the game.

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Speaker 8: I don't knowing you guys have moved on from it,

1649
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 8: but you might see some mobile quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: You are to see some mobile quarterbacks down the line here.

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Speaker 10: How helpful?

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01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 11: Maybe is it just to have that film now having

1653
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:33,520
Speaker 11: played fields.

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01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 2: And some of the design quarterback?

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01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's always just to understand how fast

1656
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 7: they are.

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01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:39,760
Speaker 11: Recreate the speed of a player like that, that's hard,

1658
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 11: whether that's the design plays or the quarterback play extensions

1659
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 11: that that turned into Chunkyardede. So you know there's a

1660
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 11: lot to that to the run game and where those

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Speaker 11: numbers get, you know, moved around in the mobile quarterback

1662
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Speaker 11: and so you know we'll have to play the run

1663
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 11: much better, you know.

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01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 7: Obviously moving forward. Brown's a great.

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01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 11: Bat, you know, makes a lot out of nothing sometimes

1666
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 11: and the cracks and his burst and his contact balance,

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01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 11: so uh, he's been fun to watch.

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01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 7: So we'll have to do a great job this week.

1669
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 11: But certainly being able to see some of those quarterback runs,

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01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 11: I understand how quickly you know, they can get on

1671
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 11: the edge and you know there weren't you know, the

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01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 11: ones that are critical are the you know, down in

1673
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 11: the goal line when they're you know, it's three yard.

1674
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 7: Game is a touchdown, not a second and seven?

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01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:37,639
Speaker 2: How have you seen Delpez grow in the system since

1676
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 2: the spring? And also how has he maximized the opportunities

1677
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 2: that's got any games?

1678
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:44,480
Speaker 11: And Dell continues to work hard and work on communication

1679
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 11: and core special teams player for us and learning multiple

1680
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:55,719
Speaker 11: positions in the defense back end, working down as the dimes,

1681
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 11: sometimes in sub and.

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01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:57,679
Speaker 7: In two minutes.

1683
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 11: And it's been good to see him take advantage of

1684
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 11: the opportunities, showed up, made some plays and working hard

1685
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:08,599
Speaker 11: on all the little things that we give them each

1686
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 11: and every week.

1687
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:12,639
Speaker 5: Another few days off like you guys did this weekend.

1688
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:16,560
Speaker 5: Would you rather both players and staff get wait for

1689
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 5: the game completely or still kind.

1690
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:18,559
Speaker 2: To be engaged.

1691
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 11: Whatever gets us back to to neutral and be able to, uh,

1692
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 11: you know, move forward and prepare and you know, stay

1693
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 11: on our conditioning and you know, but you know, it's

1694
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 11: a long stretch of games that we just had, and

1695
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 11: you know, I think that the energy is great right

1696
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:40,240
Speaker 11: now where we're at, you know, coming back in here

1697
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 11: on a Monday and meeting and getting all those things

1698
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 11: reviewed and working out and so those would be good stuff.

1699
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 3: We'd seemed to veryan previously, be like the extra tight

1700
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 3: end and some back just been Brown got that opportunity.

1701
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 7: What led to him getting those?

1702
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 2: And what did you think was performance?

1703
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 7: What led?

1704
01:14:56,479 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 11: And same thing that leads to every coach's decision. It's

1705
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 11: about the the trust that you have and the player

1706
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 11: knows what to do. And for Darien's right there, ready

1707
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 11: to go.

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01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:11,759
Speaker 7: And what with Ben? Ben's done a little bit earlier

1709
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 7: in the season, Carolina, I think maybe or he played guard.

1710
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:21,719
Speaker 7: They've both been repping it, you know, and just decided

1711
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:23,600
Speaker 7: to go with Ben, and you know, I know for

1712
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 7: Darians ready to go as well. Earlier in the season

1713
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:29,680
Speaker 7: I had asked you.

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Speaker 2: And now great moments in.

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Speaker 7: History.

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Speaker 2: If you say he's a friend of Eric, yes, isn't

1717
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 2: that proper? Isn't a friend of Eric's redundant? Yes? If

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01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:44,959
Speaker 2: he belongs to Eric, that's what the OV means. It's possessive.

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Speaker 2: So why do we get involve Eric's That's a good one,

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Speaker 2: like you don't know its friend Eric's friend would be proper.

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Speaker 2: But if you say he's a friend of Eric, that's

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Speaker 2: also proper. Now, yes, but a lot of people people

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Speaker 2: would say he's a friend of erics right now, I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that I'm right.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that I'm right about that one. So

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Speaker 2: I'm not being all frank Eric right. That's how iired,

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Speaker 2: That's how I would write, ye grammar deep dive in yes,

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Speaker 2: ap Pilo English. I know it's very specific. I know

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Speaker 2: you just got on a blog and just wrote on

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Speaker 2: your own.

1731
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Speaker 15: Some of us had to go to.

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Speaker 2: College and learn how to do it.

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Speaker 4: Perfect elitism.

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Speaker 3: Very good.

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Speaker 2: But that's another great moment from.

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Speaker 3: every time he's on the show. Please let me know

1743
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:51,959
Speaker 3: where else I can listen to the big white Snark's

1744
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 3: opinion in other places besides being called Sunshine dot com.

1745
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:59,679
Speaker 9: Yeah, catch him on a Peeping the Deuce. Well, any morning,

1746
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 9: if you were local, any library, you can just you know,

1747
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:04,600
Speaker 9: you can book him to speak to you.

1748
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 2: Because he does the library toward that's funny. The library

1749
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 2: season is coming up.

1750
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that and any of the awards, you know, youth

1751
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 3: uh youth sports award banquets.

1752
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 9: You know, people would enjoy just coming and hanging out

1753
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 9: in our little bullpen when you know Paul comes in

1754
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 9: and then holds court and you should put a.

1755
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 2: Camera in there, I know, like a little one of those.

1756
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 2: You know, that's where the real opinions come out. I

1757
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 2: wouldn't say this on air, but you know those not

1758
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 2: just poems and all. Well that's what Fred, and Fred

1759
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 2: says it on air, right, That's that's that's the difference.

1760
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 2: Can't be trusted like Fred, that was in the corn

1761
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:43,040
Speaker 2: of silence in the press box. We're not supposed to

1762
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 2: bring that on the air. Take that out and gets

1763
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:47,679
Speaker 2: on few Fred on filtered and he just let it few.

1764
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:50,720
Speaker 4: There you go, Jeremiah.

1765
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:54,600
Speaker 3: I understand everyone's concerned about playing in Denver, and I

1766
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:57,559
Speaker 3: think they are extremely valid. But I have to agree

1767
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:00,120
Speaker 3: with Evan who I'd rather see in the playoffs. I

1768
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:03,559
Speaker 3: usually think quarterbacks and head coaches are the biggest factors

1769
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 3: in playoff games and would rather see the mid QB

1770
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 3: who hasn't won a playoff game than see a three

1771
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 3: time Super Bowl champ despite our team's history in Denver.

1772
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 5: How far do you think Drake me could throw the

1773
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 5: ball in Denver? Because I think he could probably throw it.

1774
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:22,559
Speaker 2: Like I didn't get that who's the three? I mean

1775
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 2: neither the neither quarterback? I would have won a playoff game?

1776
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:28,559
Speaker 2: Oh Bonix, I think, right, yeah, referring to he's talking

1777
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 2: about bone X, but then he was talking about a

1778
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 2: three time champ, the Patrick Mahomes. Oh okay, all right.

1779
01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 2: I thought we were talking about Denver and the Patriots

1780
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:39,640
Speaker 2: about Denver in Kansas City. I even watched it. I

1781
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 2: got lost in some of the pregame before that Denver game.

1782
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 9: I was looking at that stadium. I'm like, I don't

1783
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 9: want to I don't like that place, Like I just

1784
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:48,720
Speaker 9: I don't know bad juju there for me. It's also

1785
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 9: like my own experience when we played air Force on

1786
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:52,680
Speaker 9: college back in my day. But like we got off

1787
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 9: the plane and I went we went to pregame ski

1788
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 9: I couldn't feel my feet.

1789
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, what is going on here? Like it's I mean,

1790
01:18:58,040 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 2: I know I'm not a professional athlete.

1791
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 5: I was there couple of years ago and Christmas, and

1792
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 5: as like it's fine.

1793
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:04,519
Speaker 2: Like walking around.

1794
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, like I mean, granted, like I'm not playing in

1795
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 5: the game, which I said.

1796
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 2: Multiple physical activity, but I'm not tired at all.

1797
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 5: But as I don't know, this altitude thing doesn't really

1798
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:15,920
Speaker 5: bother me.

1799
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:21,479
Speaker 2: All right, let's get to the hotline. Roberts in Seattle.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Robert, Hello, Robert, Robert.

1801
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:26,760
Speaker 10: Hey, can you guys hear it?

1802
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 6: Yes?

1803
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:31,760
Speaker 12: All right, I got a quick scenario I heard on

1804
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:36,800
Speaker 12: first yesterday about the Chiefs missing the playoffs. There's a

1805
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:41,559
Speaker 12: scenario where in the Chargers last week of the season,

1806
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 12: and the Chargers currently hold the tiebreaker over the Chiefs,

1807
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 12: and there could be a scenario where Sehn Payton dressed

1808
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:52,679
Speaker 12: all the starters and let the Chargers win to knock

1809
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:55,000
Speaker 12: He's out of the Super Bowl, out of the playoffs.

1810
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 1: What your guys thoughts on this?

1811
01:19:56,960 --> 01:20:03,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, tiebreaker doesn't matter until they play twice. So

1812
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 2: if the Chargers beat the Chiefs again, then it'll be

1813
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 2: a moot point. But assuming the Chiefs beat the Chargers,

1814
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:12,800
Speaker 2: they will no longer have that head to head tiebreaker thing.

1815
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:15,920
Speaker 2: That's another reason why tiebreaker talk in the middle of

1816
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 2: the season is somewhat irrelevant now if you want to

1817
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 2: talk about like specific non divisional teams like Kansas City

1818
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 2: lost to Jacksonville. Those are two teams that could be

1819
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 2: fighting for the seventh spot. That tiebreakers relevant. Jacksonville has

1820
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 2: the head to head, that's not going to change. They

1821
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 2: only played once. If they tie, Jacksonville has the edge.

1822
01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 2: You know, that's different than teams are going to play again.

1823
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:49,879
Speaker 2: You know, like right now, the Patriots beat Buffalo, the first.

1824
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:50,920
Speaker 5: About to ask you this, how?

1825
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:51,280
Speaker 13: How?

1826
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 5: What kind of lead? What would you call the Patriots

1827
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:57,719
Speaker 5: current lead in the AFC game and a half, which

1828
01:20:57,760 --> 01:20:59,439
Speaker 5: I thought was like common sense.

1829
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 2: None, no, No, it's two games if you listen to

1830
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:04,760
Speaker 2: Tony Romo, But it's not. And it's a game and a.

1831
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 5: Half literally, just baseball, it's a game and a half.

1832
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 2: And if if Buffalo were to win Thursday night heading

1833
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:14,360
Speaker 2: into Sunday, it would be a one game lead, you know,

1834
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:20,840
Speaker 2: like to me, if the Patriots lose the second game,

1835
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 2: that tiebreaker is gone. Now the Patriots would still have

1836
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:26,719
Speaker 2: an edge. I talked about this last week too, because

1837
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:30,360
Speaker 2: of the division record, right, Buffalo losing to Miami was enormous,

1838
01:21:30,479 --> 01:21:32,559
Speaker 2: not just for the fact that Buffalo lost, but they

1839
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:36,480
Speaker 2: lost in the division, right, that would mean the Patriots

1840
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 2: probably are going to have the tiebreaker over Buffalo, provided

1841
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 2: that they beat the Jets in Miami in the last

1842
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:45,160
Speaker 2: two games of the season. Even if they lose to Buffalo,

1843
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 2: they will have that tiebreaker edge with the division record.

1844
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 2: So now you just have to make sure you stay

1845
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:51,679
Speaker 2: at least tied.

1846
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:52,680
Speaker 7: There you go.

1847
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 5: That's why the whole Milton Williams timeline. I do wonder

1848
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:00,720
Speaker 5: if like they were actually more concerned about him being

1849
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 5: back for the Dolphins and Jets, because that's going to

1850
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 5: be probably a hat and T shirt game at that point,

1851
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 5: and you get him back, plays a game or two,

1852
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:14,719
Speaker 5: get him, you know, back up the speed for the playoffs,

1853
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:15,959
Speaker 5: and then you're into the playoffs.

1854
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 4: Okay, thanks Robert, Let's go to Patty and Hey, Patty.

1855
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:28,479
Speaker 1: Afternoon, gens. What's going on? Hey, so talking about playoff

1856
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:31,320
Speaker 1: speeding and who we might play. I remember back in

1857
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:33,680
Speaker 1: the day, back in the Dynasty one point zero, I

1858
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:37,000
Speaker 1: used to listen to a lot of EI. Sorry, Fred,

1859
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 1: I didn't know about Patriots dot Com back then, but

1860
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 1: I would say it would it would be like split

1861
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:45,800
Speaker 1: fans would be worried about having to play teams like

1862
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:48,280
Speaker 1: the Colts or the Titans or the Steelers. And I

1863
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 1: always had the mindset of not necessarily iron shirpinsion, But

1864
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:55,640
Speaker 1: don't you want to play the best competition because what

1865
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 1: do what do you really learn about yourself and don't

1866
01:22:57,760 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 1: have to play like.

1867
01:22:58,520 --> 01:22:59,719
Speaker 2: I want to win games?

1868
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:02,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, I want to win titles.

1869
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:05,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean when they played Tim Tebow's Broncos and

1870
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:08,599
Speaker 2: had to buy to the second to the AFC Championship game,

1871
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:10,800
Speaker 2: I had no problem with that. When they played like

1872
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 2: that terrible Pittsburgh team the year I think the year

1873
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 2: they played Baltimore in the Division round, they had the

1874
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 2: war with Baltimore. Then they played that awful Steelers team

1875
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:22,080
Speaker 2: in the championship. The next week's was it the Colts?

1876
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:23,200
Speaker 2: The Colts team?

1877
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:26,560
Speaker 5: Yeah? That was older kind of touchdown pass it.

1878
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:29,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the game. Yeah, you're right, Yeah, give

1879
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 2: me the Colts any day, any day.

1880
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1881
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 3: I know, I hear what you're saying, Paul, and I agree.

1882
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 3: I just want to win titles. I don't I don't

1883
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 3: care who we play. But at the same time, when

1884
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:42,680
Speaker 3: we go back and we look at you know, the

1885
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 3: the double buys.

1886
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:46,800
Speaker 2: We laugh at them, you know, and no, I know,

1887
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:49,320
Speaker 2: because we won titles. I know. No, that's why we

1888
01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 2: laugh at.

1889
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:53,800
Speaker 3: We laugh at the games themselves as pushovers. And and

1890
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 3: then you look back at those years where you had

1891
01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:59,640
Speaker 3: to beat Pittsburgh and go to Pittsburgh and beat Pittsburgh,

1892
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:04,720
Speaker 3: and you you you look, you know, more fondly on

1893
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 3: those games than you did like Jacksonville.

1894
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 2: But that's knowing I won, I know, but like if

1895
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 2: I win, I would rather have beaten the best, the

1896
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 2: best teams, you know, like the very first one in

1897
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:19,600
Speaker 2: one they were the number two seed. They played the

1898
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 2: three seed in the division around, the one seed in

1899
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:23,800
Speaker 2: the championship, and the one seed from the NFC in

1900
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:26,840
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. You can't get much more difficult than that,

1901
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:30,600
Speaker 2: you know, but they won, So like, wouldn't you have

1902
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 2: rather said, jeez, it's too bad. Too bad the Jets

1903
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 2: didn't upset Pittsburgh, so we can easier way if you

1904
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 2: had lost the Tuck Bowl.

1905
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:40,800
Speaker 5: I just remember when the Broncos, the tebou Broncos beat

1906
01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:44,000
Speaker 5: the Steelers in the wild card round. I celebrated like

1907
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:46,120
Speaker 5: the Patriots had won a game, like because you knew.

1908
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:51,759
Speaker 2: You just the Tim Tebow game. Yeah, absolutely tomorrow, Thomas.

1909
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:56,759
Speaker 4: We talked about it before. I'll never forget when Denver lost.

1910
01:24:56,920 --> 01:24:59,680
Speaker 3: They were they were the runner, and you didn't have

1911
01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 3: to not just play them, but you didn't have to

1912
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 3: go to Denver and you end up having.

1913
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 2: Can you imagine how nervous I got because you won't

1914
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 2: remember this, but it was. That was a Saturday game

1915
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:13,240
Speaker 2: that the Broncos lost to the Jaguars and the Patriots

1916
01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:16,840
Speaker 2: didn't play untill Sunday. I was like, just like Fred's

1917
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 2: talking about the Broncos are out. The Broncos are out. Now,

1918
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 2: I get nervous. Now are we going to be Pittsburgh?

1919
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:23,479
Speaker 2: You know, like you get worried about it. But yeah,

1920
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 2: sign me up for the for the easiest route as

1921
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:29,000
Speaker 2: long as I get there. It's now, if I'm guaranteed

1922
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:31,679
Speaker 2: to win, sure, I'll take a tougher route win six.

1923
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:34,120
Speaker 5: Where like you can have each one go a little

1924
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:35,720
Speaker 5: bit of a different like when you were in six

1925
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 5: of them, you can say, oh, this one might have

1926
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 5: been better than that one. But like, right, we let's

1927
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 5: just get Mike Rabel and Drake May right, super Bowl.

1928
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 9: I don't really care, That's what I was gonna say,

1929
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 9: because I you know, I don't really look back on

1930
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:48,160
Speaker 9: the Super Bowls and think much about the path to

1931
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:50,160
Speaker 9: get to those super Bowls, Like twenty fourteen is probably

1932
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:51,560
Speaker 9: my favorite one, but I couldn't.

1933
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:52,719
Speaker 4: Really watch three games to glory.

1934
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 9: I own all of them, Fred, you know, hey, but

1935
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 9: I don't like, look when I reflect upon my favorite

1936
01:25:57,280 --> 01:25:59,439
Speaker 9: super Bowl, I don't think, well, you know, fourteen, yeah,

1937
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:01,560
Speaker 9: but they you know, just House the Colts, you know,

1938
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 9: like that. But I don't remember anything about like that

1939
01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 9: Colts AAFC championship. But when you talk about like Tennessee

1940
01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 9: and O three and an m v P and then

1941
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:11,559
Speaker 9: you talk about like I remember those games, So.

1942
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 2: Maybe there is something said they remember the Baltimore game

1943
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:16,800
Speaker 2: games and because it was if it was a close game,

1944
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:19,400
Speaker 2: you'd remember. Yeah, yeah, that's probably maybe that's the case.

1945
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:22,559
Speaker 2: That's probably why I can't remember any like the Houston games.

1946
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:27,680
Speaker 2: You don't remember, right, like like oh yeah, right, like

1947
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:30,800
Speaker 2: Deon Lewis kickoff return. That's but that's about it.

1948
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:32,600
Speaker 9: But like I could almost go blow for blow on

1949
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:36,880
Speaker 9: like the three AFC championship against Peyton Manning with you

1950
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 9: high law picking all passes left the right, you know.

1951
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:40,840
Speaker 2: Like you just but can you go blow for blow

1952
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:44,479
Speaker 2: of the five division around at Denver that you lost? Unfortunately, No,

1953
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 2: and probably still a touchback, but you probably can't go

1954
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 2: blow for blow in that game.

1955
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 12: No.

1956
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 2: But but I will say that's the games an outlive

1957
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:53,440
Speaker 2: for me because that's like one of the most impactful

1958
01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:56,160
Speaker 2: games I feel like on me sitting here right now,

1959
01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:58,240
Speaker 2: because like that game bugged me so much that it

1960
01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 2: just like sparked me into whole new territory of like

1961
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 2: wondering about the Patriots and covering football and all that.

1962
01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 5: It was a touchback like it was, it was a

1963
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:09,760
Speaker 5: Blaine I think that was like absolutely that was you

1964
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:12,160
Speaker 5: know uppings from the tuck rule. You know, they're like,

1965
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:14,840
Speaker 5: well you got the break, you know one, so now

1966
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:15,640
Speaker 5: we're gonna go.

1967
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 4: They couldn't have us continue winning like that.

1968
01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 2: No, they didn't have it that day anyway. I mean

1969
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 2: that was that game because maybe they might not want

1970
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:24,400
Speaker 2: to throw one hundred and eight yard interception and you

1971
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 2: wouldn't have had that happened. Just saying, you know, Frady

1972
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 2: was great and all, but that was a horrific play.

1973
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:32,439
Speaker 4: Vinnie in Vegas, what's up, Vinnie?

1974
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 13: Hey, guys, how's it going all right? You know, I

1975
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:41,360
Speaker 13: apologize if you guys have already spoken extensively about the defense,

1976
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 13: but I just, you know, I just started listening right now.

1977
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:49,000
Speaker 13: Don't get me wrong. I am very excited about the year,

1978
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 13: and I think, no matter what happens from now on,

1979
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:55,560
Speaker 13: we can consider this a successful year, even with the

1980
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 13: new expectations. But I do think that our defense is

1981
01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:01,760
Speaker 13: going to be eventually a downfall. I don't think that,

1982
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:06,160
Speaker 13: you know, we don't. We made some quarterbacks, some bad

1983
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 13: quarterbacks look pretty good. We don't take them all away.

1984
01:28:10,280 --> 01:28:12,840
Speaker 13: We don't pressure the quarterbacks that you know, what will

1985
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:16,479
Speaker 13: be considered a high rate. I think Carlton Davis has

1986
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 13: been underwhelming, and I think Gonzo has been all right,

1987
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:23,679
Speaker 13: but I don't think he's been great. I just think eventually,

1988
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 13: like I said, it's gonna catch up to us. Our

1989
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 13: defense is just okay, nothing great.

1990
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:32,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, thanks Vinnie, most of the stats we're

1991
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:35,559
Speaker 5: not perfect. Most of the stats would agree with Vinnie. Yeah, yeah,

1992
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:38,040
Speaker 5: they're they're I think they're twenty eighth right now in

1993
01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 5: DVOA on defense. Like most of the metrics and even

1994
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:45,559
Speaker 5: some of the eye tests, I would say that would agree. Now,

1995
01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:48,439
Speaker 5: every week I think it's gonna come and bite them

1996
01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:50,400
Speaker 5: in the butt. And every week they give up an

1997
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:52,400
Speaker 5: opening drive touchdown and then they give up no points

1998
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:54,720
Speaker 5: for two quarters. So eventually you're going to play a

1999
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:57,719
Speaker 5: team that maybe is better. But I just watched Tampa

2000
01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 5: Bay go up and down the field in Buffalo against

2001
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:03,439
Speaker 5: the Bills in different kind of game, different type of

2002
01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:06,479
Speaker 5: you know, situation, But they didn't do that against the

2003
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 5: Patriots defense. You know, they had some success, but they

2004
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:12,559
Speaker 5: didn't put thirty three points up on the Patriots defense.

2005
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:15,120
Speaker 5: So I don't know. Every week I think it's going

2006
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:17,120
Speaker 5: to be that week that they're going to finally the

2007
01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:19,320
Speaker 5: Chickens are going to come home to roost. And every

2008
01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:21,360
Speaker 5: week I look up in the fourth quarter and it's

2009
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 5: seventeen twenty twenty one points, So maybe it won't in.

2010
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:27,880
Speaker 9: Sometimes it's almost the same thing as like the run

2011
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:30,400
Speaker 9: gamer you're just talking about where a few handful of

2012
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:32,519
Speaker 9: plays kind of change how you think about it. And

2013
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 9: I think some of the defense in that way too,

2014
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:36,880
Speaker 9: Like there's you know a handful of defensive plays over

2015
01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:39,960
Speaker 9: the course of this season that have dramatically impacted games.

2016
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:41,840
Speaker 9: But you know, on a down to down basis, I

2017
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:43,439
Speaker 9: don't know how great the running game is, and on

2018
01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:45,599
Speaker 9: a down to down basis, I don't know how great

2019
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:46,280
Speaker 9: the defense is.

2020
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:48,160
Speaker 2: I think I mean a lot of what any just said.

2021
01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:50,760
Speaker 9: It's it's you just wonder if a team is going

2022
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:54,439
Speaker 9: to come out and really not blank after that first

2023
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:56,960
Speaker 9: drive and score and then score again. And you and

2024
01:29:57,000 --> 01:29:58,960
Speaker 9: I at least like the Patriots' chances with Drake made

2025
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:00,760
Speaker 9: to keep pace now with that, like that, if that

2026
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:02,559
Speaker 9: was you know, Mac Jones will still the quarterback, you'd

2027
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:04,679
Speaker 9: be like death sentence, like, you know. So I still

2028
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:06,519
Speaker 9: think that they're going to be able to get into

2029
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:08,479
Speaker 9: some of those back and forth kind of games. But

2030
01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:10,439
Speaker 9: but I get it, you know, and I think that's

2031
01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:13,640
Speaker 9: you know, I want to learn the truth, you know.

2032
01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:17,040
Speaker 5: Do they have the ability, like if a team comes

2033
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:19,640
Speaker 5: out that has a good offense, that's willing to be

2034
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:22,599
Speaker 5: aggressive on first and second down and just actually throw

2035
01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:26,080
Speaker 5: the ball, because what's happening right now is that first

2036
01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:29,120
Speaker 5: down happens. Then they get into these second downs and

2037
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:31,559
Speaker 5: teams are running the ball on second and down against

2038
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:33,679
Speaker 5: the Patriots, And the Patriots run defense has been really,

2039
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:36,320
Speaker 5: really good so now you know they might get five

2040
01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 5: six yards on first down, then they get zero yards

2041
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:40,640
Speaker 5: on second down, and then all of a sudden you're

2042
01:30:40,640 --> 01:30:42,840
Speaker 5: playing the third and medium. And that's just been the

2043
01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:46,360
Speaker 5: pattern all year long. So do if one of these teams,

2044
01:30:46,439 --> 01:30:49,160
Speaker 5: you know, I I'd to whoever in the playoffs, if

2045
01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:51,000
Speaker 5: you just go into this game and you say, you

2046
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:53,120
Speaker 5: know what, we're probably going to throw it forty five

2047
01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:57,000
Speaker 5: times and that we're not really going to be able

2048
01:30:57,040 --> 01:30:59,160
Speaker 5: to run much on these guys. We're not going to

2049
01:30:59,200 --> 01:31:01,120
Speaker 5: get into second and and run the ball and turn

2050
01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:03,720
Speaker 5: it into third and long automatically. We're going to throw

2051
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:06,920
Speaker 5: the ball on first and second down aggressively. Did the

2052
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:09,200
Speaker 5: Patriots have the ability to stop it?

2053
01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:11,960
Speaker 2: Dink and dunk middle of the field right like Brady? Would?

2054
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:14,040
Speaker 2: Brady be a tough matchup for this. And I think

2055
01:31:14,120 --> 01:31:16,960
Speaker 2: people are just worried, I mean partly because that's what

2056
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:20,400
Speaker 2: we do as fans, We worry. But they haven't really

2057
01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:23,320
Speaker 2: faced I mean, really only two teams that had the

2058
01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:26,519
Speaker 2: ability to do what Evan's talking about, Like Justin Fields

2059
01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:29,919
Speaker 2: isn't going to be able to do that. Dylan Gabriel

2060
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:32,320
Speaker 2: can't do that. Cam Wood can't do that what he

2061
01:31:32,479 --> 01:31:35,160
Speaker 2: just talked about, but Baker Mayfield probably could have, and

2062
01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:39,160
Speaker 2: we know Josh Allen can. Those are the two games

2063
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:42,519
Speaker 2: that I thought the defense played the best considering who

2064
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:46,640
Speaker 2: they were, you know, considering the opponent. Buffalo turned it

2065
01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:49,600
Speaker 2: over three times, they had eleven penalties. Tampa didn't do

2066
01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:52,800
Speaker 2: that stuff. They stopped Tampa. They held them to twenty three,

2067
01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:57,120
Speaker 2: you know, without you know, a lot of you know,

2068
01:31:57,240 --> 01:31:59,479
Speaker 2: self inflicted wounds by this, you know, I think Buffalo

2069
01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:03,840
Speaker 2: held itself twenty I think Tampa the Patriots stopped. Now,

2070
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:06,479
Speaker 2: you can make an argument Tampa isn't that kind of offense.

2071
01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:09,120
Speaker 2: But to Evan's point, the next week on the road,

2072
01:32:09,160 --> 01:32:11,960
Speaker 2: they put ten more points up on Buffalo. Then they

2073
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 2: scored against you so and it was on the road.

2074
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:18,400
Speaker 2: So they're more than capable of having those kinds of games.

2075
01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:22,920
Speaker 2: I think that's what people worry about. What would this

2076
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:25,080
Speaker 2: defense look like if they had to play these teams

2077
01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:27,559
Speaker 2: more frequently? And you're going to see more of those

2078
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:28,160
Speaker 2: in the playoffs.

2079
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:31,479
Speaker 5: When you get to second and medium or long against

2080
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:33,760
Speaker 5: his defense every single time a team runs the ball

2081
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:36,519
Speaker 5: and second and ten against the Patriots, I'm like thank you.

2082
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:39,040
Speaker 5: Just bring the punter out because you're not going to

2083
01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:42,439
Speaker 5: be able to run the football effectively. So second down

2084
01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:45,200
Speaker 5: and long becomes third and long, and now the Patriots

2085
01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:46,880
Speaker 5: have a chance to get off the field. So what

2086
01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:50,120
Speaker 5: happens when second and long becomes a pass and it's

2087
01:32:50,200 --> 01:32:52,600
Speaker 5: Josh Allen dropping back to pass on second down? Do

2088
01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:53,840
Speaker 5: you even get to third down?

2089
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:54,240
Speaker 2: Right?

2090
01:32:54,439 --> 01:32:54,600
Speaker 7: You know?

2091
01:32:54,680 --> 01:32:56,880
Speaker 5: And those are the things that worry you about the defense?

2092
01:32:57,120 --> 01:33:00,280
Speaker 3: Nick in Boston writes in he says, I agree Fred

2093
01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:01,599
Speaker 3: about the rivalry uniforms.

2094
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:02,120
Speaker 4: I love them.

2095
01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:04,280
Speaker 2: Are we ever gonna wear them again? Once per year?

2096
01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:04,840
Speaker 2: What's the plan?

2097
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:05,120
Speaker 7: Well?

2098
01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:08,559
Speaker 3: I know they're going to wear them once a year

2099
01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:10,599
Speaker 3: for the next three years. Whether or not they wear

2100
01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:12,800
Speaker 3: them more than that, I think the league has to.

2101
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:15,120
Speaker 2: Allow for that, so they always be at home when

2102
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:18,920
Speaker 2: you wear them. I don't know. Probably so did you

2103
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:23,680
Speaker 2: guys the uniforms the Rams War, Yeah, those right? With

2104
01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:27,320
Speaker 2: those considered, I really liked those, Yeah, Blackout, I really

2105
01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:31,000
Speaker 2: liked when those blue in the and I really liked

2106
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:33,400
Speaker 2: the helmets. Helmets they just didn't seem to be much

2107
01:33:33,520 --> 01:33:36,040
Speaker 2: pomp and circumstances around well during the day ours was

2108
01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:37,080
Speaker 2: that night? Yeah? Yeah.

2109
01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:39,439
Speaker 4: Also shout out to Tom E.

2110
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:43,599
Speaker 3: Curran, who, take two weeks into the season, quadrupled down

2111
01:33:43,640 --> 01:33:45,680
Speaker 3: in his take that he would draft JJ McCarthy over

2112
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:48,280
Speaker 3: Drake May because he was more pro ready and had

2113
01:33:48,280 --> 01:33:49,560
Speaker 3: a better arm and processing.

2114
01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:52,280
Speaker 4: I saw people getting on Tom.

2115
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:53,439
Speaker 2: That was week two.

2116
01:33:53,640 --> 01:33:56,800
Speaker 3: So what does he think now, Well, he also would

2117
01:33:56,840 --> 01:33:58,479
Speaker 3: have drafted you're keeping the receipts.

2118
01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:01,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I tried not to do it. I like Tom,

2119
01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:05,400
Speaker 5: so I don't want to like make this a whole

2120
01:34:05,479 --> 01:34:09,040
Speaker 5: thing because I should never know if I don't want

2121
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:11,160
Speaker 5: to do that. But he's been a JJ McCarthy guy.

2122
01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:14,240
Speaker 4: But what does he think now, would he still take McCarthy.

2123
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:15,680
Speaker 5: Or well, he would have drafted McCarthy and that's all

2124
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:16,160
Speaker 5: that matters.

2125
01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:19,799
Speaker 4: Okay, you wouldn't have drafted him at all McCarthy.

2126
01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:23,040
Speaker 5: No, Zach Wilson two point zero, no thing, okay, but

2127
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:26,599
Speaker 5: I I that was what he thought at the time

2128
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:27,160
Speaker 5: of the draft.

2129
01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:27,880
Speaker 2: That's all.

2130
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:30,200
Speaker 9: If you do this job long enough, you're probably going

2131
01:34:30,280 --> 01:34:31,840
Speaker 9: to have some bad of course, you know, if you

2132
01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:35,080
Speaker 9: have any kind of ability to stand question, are you

2133
01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:36,360
Speaker 9: willing to change your mind?

2134
01:34:36,400 --> 01:34:36,599
Speaker 7: See?

2135
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:39,040
Speaker 2: I agree with Fred. Yeah, if he would still take

2136
01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:42,920
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy then then just being stubborn, but I don't

2137
01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:43,679
Speaker 2: think you would.

2138
01:34:44,720 --> 01:34:46,280
Speaker 4: Max in Atlanta a long time.

2139
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:49,120
Speaker 3: I know we should have an advantage with Burrow, Hendrickson

2140
01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:50,960
Speaker 3: and Chase all out for Cincinnati, but I.

2141
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:53,640
Speaker 2: Do wonder what we do as players, what we do

2142
01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:54,479
Speaker 2: about Higgins.

2143
01:34:55,240 --> 01:34:57,000
Speaker 3: Would you be willing to hire an intern to go

2144
01:34:57,240 --> 01:34:59,639
Speaker 3: piss off T Higgins enough to spit on him before

2145
01:34:59,720 --> 01:35:04,759
Speaker 3: Sunday game. Obviously Gonzales could eliminate Higgins from the stats sheet,

2146
01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:08,719
Speaker 3: but I prefer going against a completely toothless Bengal since

2147
01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:11,040
Speaker 3: a Bengal with one tooth would look weird.

2148
01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:13,240
Speaker 5: I do think it's interesting.

2149
01:35:13,479 --> 01:35:13,599
Speaker 11: Uh.

2150
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:15,720
Speaker 5: I put this out on Twitter last night. Do you

2151
01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:19,320
Speaker 5: use Carlon Davis with you know, do you double T

2152
01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:23,640
Speaker 5: Higgins and then put Gonzo on Yoshiva's or do you

2153
01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:27,760
Speaker 5: put Gonzo on Higgins and Davis on Yeshiva's. I think

2154
01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:31,759
Speaker 5: there's an argument to be made to double Higgins with Davis,

2155
01:35:32,160 --> 01:35:35,400
Speaker 5: who I think is stylistically it's a decent matchup for Davis,

2156
01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:40,520
Speaker 5: I agree, and then you can put Gonzo on Yoshivas,

2157
01:35:40,520 --> 01:35:45,360
Speaker 5: who's not Jamar Chase, but he's not slouch like Yeshiva's

2158
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:48,479
Speaker 5: can as a solid player, he doesn't get a ton

2159
01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:50,840
Speaker 5: of targets, which is you know, because of those two

2160
01:35:51,080 --> 01:35:52,000
Speaker 5: headed monsters.

2161
01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:54,559
Speaker 2: Averages over thirteen yards of catch on the season. As

2162
01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:57,240
Speaker 2: like you said, as the third banana, it's the whole

2163
01:35:57,439 --> 01:35:57,640
Speaker 2: you know.

2164
01:35:57,720 --> 01:36:00,720
Speaker 5: Double the number one, and you put Gonzo on a

2165
01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:04,040
Speaker 5: island with Yoshiva's. I don't know which way I would.

2166
01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:07,479
Speaker 5: I would probably lean towards that way, but that's that's

2167
01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:07,800
Speaker 5: just me.

2168
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:09,360
Speaker 9: What can they scheme it up to and try to

2169
01:36:09,400 --> 01:36:13,000
Speaker 9: get you know, Higgins or Yoshiva's on Marcus Joanes somehow,

2170
01:36:13,080 --> 01:36:15,120
Speaker 9: And that's right, that's a SEIS mismatch too.

2171
01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:17,120
Speaker 5: Well, that's the concern, and that's why I feel like

2172
01:36:17,200 --> 01:36:19,960
Speaker 5: you have to go into this game with matchups like

2173
01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:22,080
Speaker 5: like what if Davis has Higgins?

2174
01:36:22,200 --> 01:36:26,400
Speaker 4: What did Pittsburgh do to limit the uh two high.

2175
01:36:26,240 --> 01:36:30,040
Speaker 5: Safeties they play? Everybody's playing two high safeties because Joe

2176
01:36:30,120 --> 01:36:32,320
Speaker 5: Flack was a statue. So you put the two high

2177
01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:33,760
Speaker 5: safeties up top, you put one.

2178
01:36:33,720 --> 01:36:36,120
Speaker 3: Of everybody's doing it. But they were scoring points up

2179
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:36,679
Speaker 3: to that point.

2180
01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:39,679
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, I think it was a funny pressure until

2181
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:42,360
Speaker 5: until really this past week.

2182
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:45,439
Speaker 2: There was a lot of wind in Pittsburgh that affected

2183
01:36:45,479 --> 01:36:49,320
Speaker 2: the game, I think. I think also Flacco had I mean,

2184
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:53,240
Speaker 2: Tomlin has a lot of experience going against Flacco. He

2185
01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:55,439
Speaker 2: hasn't always played well in Pittsburgh, Okay, And it was

2186
01:36:55,520 --> 01:36:57,639
Speaker 2: kind of a funny game, Like it's twenty to twelve.

2187
01:36:57,760 --> 01:37:01,200
Speaker 2: The drive in, he throws the pick to Kyle Duggar.

2188
01:37:01,479 --> 01:37:04,000
Speaker 2: Yeah for a pick six, goes like seventy yards for

2189
01:37:04,040 --> 01:37:05,760
Speaker 2: a touchdown. You know, if you go in there and

2190
01:37:06,520 --> 01:37:09,639
Speaker 2: it's twenty to eighteen at the worst, you know it's

2191
01:37:09,640 --> 01:37:12,960
Speaker 2: probably game on. Instead it's twenty seven to twelve, the

2192
01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:15,479
Speaker 2: game's over. And then I think the last touchdown was

2193
01:37:15,479 --> 01:37:16,879
Speaker 2: a fumble return for a touchdown.

2194
01:37:17,080 --> 01:37:19,400
Speaker 4: Do we have an early weather report for Cincinnati.

2195
01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:22,760
Speaker 5: It's supposed to be mild mile yeah. Yeah, Like if

2196
01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:26,040
Speaker 5: these like low fifties, high forties, but no wind, yeah,

2197
01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:27,000
Speaker 5: I don't think so.

2198
01:37:27,080 --> 01:37:27,360
Speaker 7: I don't know.

2199
01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:28,120
Speaker 5: I didn't look the wind.

2200
01:37:28,240 --> 01:37:30,280
Speaker 2: But I wonder also if this is kind of the

2201
01:37:30,439 --> 01:37:33,040
Speaker 2: you know, Flacco has done this where he comes back,

2202
01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:35,519
Speaker 2: he's good for a few weeks and then you know

2203
01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:37,800
Speaker 2: he's forty Yeah, so he kind of runs out of

2204
01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:39,479
Speaker 2: gas a little bit. Maybe that was the beginning of

2205
01:37:39,479 --> 01:37:39,880
Speaker 2: the end.

2206
01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:42,240
Speaker 5: I kind of thought that Tide was turning the two

2207
01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:46,400
Speaker 5: I safety thing. The splitz are are ridiculous, like because

2208
01:37:46,479 --> 01:37:48,880
Speaker 5: if you put one safety up top, then you can

2209
01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:50,960
Speaker 5: only help the Higgins or Chase. You can't help the

2210
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:53,080
Speaker 5: both guys. So when you put the two ice safeties

2211
01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:55,439
Speaker 5: up top and both guys have an umbrella over them

2212
01:37:55,680 --> 01:37:58,200
Speaker 5: and they can't hit the ball down the field, you

2213
01:37:58,360 --> 01:38:00,439
Speaker 5: usually don't want to play two high safety against a

2214
01:38:00,520 --> 01:38:03,639
Speaker 5: mobile quarterback because then there's nobody left for the quarterback.

2215
01:38:03,880 --> 01:38:05,800
Speaker 5: So then the guy's just gonna run all over the place.

2216
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:06,479
Speaker 4: But he don't.

2217
01:38:06,520 --> 01:38:08,639
Speaker 2: He ain't over, he can't run, he can't go anywhere.

2218
01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:11,200
Speaker 5: So you're you just put the safeties up top, you

2219
01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:14,600
Speaker 5: double both Higgins and Chase with the safeties you rush for,

2220
01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:17,240
Speaker 5: and then you have you know, I thought the Jets

2221
01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:20,559
Speaker 5: towards the end of that game, even though the Bengals

2222
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:23,200
Speaker 5: scored a lot of points early in that game, by

2223
01:38:23,240 --> 01:38:25,479
Speaker 5: the end of that game, the Jets kind of figured

2224
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:27,360
Speaker 5: that out and were starting to, you know, kind of

2225
01:38:27,439 --> 01:38:29,519
Speaker 5: bracket both guys and force in the ball out.

2226
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:34,320
Speaker 2: Chicago did the same thing after the Bear scored the

2227
01:38:34,439 --> 01:38:37,920
Speaker 2: level and touchdown, but they kind of shut it down. Yeah,

2228
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:39,599
Speaker 2: so the Jets up a lot of points.

2229
01:38:39,640 --> 01:38:41,760
Speaker 5: But yeah, the Jets I felt like, kind of put

2230
01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:45,240
Speaker 5: their fourth quarter, kind of put a blueprint a little

2231
01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:48,040
Speaker 5: bit out there. And then Pittsburgh played seventy one percent

2232
01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:50,519
Speaker 5: of the game out of two high safeties and completely

2233
01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:54,720
Speaker 5: shut down the Bengals. So I think that that's that's

2234
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:56,200
Speaker 5: really what it's looking at. But I don't know if

2235
01:38:56,240 --> 01:38:59,200
Speaker 5: you need to do that necessarily, if it's just take it,

2236
01:38:59,439 --> 01:39:00,960
Speaker 5: you know, don't know if you need to put that

2237
01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:02,679
Speaker 5: many resources in coverage.

2238
01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:07,599
Speaker 2: Shawn's and Vancouver Hey, Sean cove Hey.

2239
01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:11,040
Speaker 14: So there's been a lot of talk about Casey in

2240
01:39:11,120 --> 01:39:15,160
Speaker 14: the playoffs there. They're five and five. They've lost to Jacksonville,

2241
01:39:15,200 --> 01:39:17,080
Speaker 14: to Buffalo, the third in the division. They have a

2242
01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:17,839
Speaker 14: tough schedule.

2243
01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:21,160
Speaker 2: I don't they have one of the easiest schedules remaining.

2244
01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:25,000
Speaker 14: Well, they still play like three tough games, Like it's

2245
01:39:25,080 --> 01:39:27,080
Speaker 14: not as easy as the Patriots. But I mean, I

2246
01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:28,840
Speaker 14: don't think unless they went out, I don't even know

2247
01:39:28,920 --> 01:39:30,000
Speaker 14: they're going to make the plays.

2248
01:39:31,479 --> 01:39:33,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they might not. I mean, they have

2249
01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:35,519
Speaker 2: five losses. My guess is they'll they'll end up with

2250
01:39:35,560 --> 01:39:38,400
Speaker 2: at least ten wins and get in ten.

2251
01:39:38,439 --> 01:39:41,000
Speaker 14: I don't know, we'll do it and not tamed third

2252
01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:43,840
Speaker 14: in entergiment and maybe the Chargers will will completely fall apart.

2253
01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:45,840
Speaker 2: But why that mean three made it last year from

2254
01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:47,360
Speaker 2: that division? Why can't they do it again?

2255
01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:49,160
Speaker 7: Well?

2256
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:52,759
Speaker 14: Well, because Patriots are are are the team that's probably

2257
01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:54,439
Speaker 14: going to win the East, That's why. And Buffalo is

2258
01:39:54,479 --> 01:39:58,400
Speaker 14: still there, so there's just not enough space if they

2259
01:39:58,479 --> 01:40:00,680
Speaker 14: win ten wins, and what's Jacksonville going to do? I mean,

2260
01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:02,240
Speaker 14: they're probably going to win ten as well.

2261
01:40:02,320 --> 01:40:03,800
Speaker 2: Who do you think would have a better chance of

2262
01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:05,799
Speaker 2: winning ten Jacksonville or Kansas City.

2263
01:40:06,800 --> 01:40:08,639
Speaker 14: At this point, Jacksonville because they have more wins.

2264
01:40:08,720 --> 01:40:12,719
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean I would. I would bet on Kansas

2265
01:40:12,760 --> 01:40:14,479
Speaker 2: City if I was if I had to bet money,

2266
01:40:14,520 --> 01:40:16,720
Speaker 2: I'm not allowed to do that, but I would have

2267
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:19,720
Speaker 2: more faith in the stretch Drive with Patrick Mahomes than

2268
01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:22,800
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence. And then you know, games that you have

2269
01:40:22,960 --> 01:40:24,960
Speaker 2: to win. I would have more faith in Kansas City

2270
01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:26,280
Speaker 2: winning games that you have to win.

2271
01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:29,920
Speaker 14: Yeah, okay, but.

2272
01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:32,960
Speaker 2: Last year, I mean just last year, all three of

2273
01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:35,720
Speaker 2: those teams from the AFC West made the playoffs, So

2274
01:40:35,800 --> 01:40:37,240
Speaker 2: I don't know why that would be so out of

2275
01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:39,840
Speaker 2: the ordinary to happen again. Plus, I think the Chargers

2276
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:42,240
Speaker 2: are trending the other way because their offensive line is

2277
01:40:42,439 --> 01:40:45,360
Speaker 2: just completely in shambles. And I don't even think Justin

2278
01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:47,320
Speaker 2: Herberts has a chance to make it through the season.

2279
01:40:47,439 --> 01:40:49,599
Speaker 2: So when you're making a point to a caller, why

2280
01:40:49,640 --> 01:40:51,560
Speaker 2: do you always look at Deuce? Because I thought we

2281
01:40:51,600 --> 01:40:53,360
Speaker 2: were just talking about it now I know, But like

2282
01:40:53,479 --> 01:40:56,400
Speaker 2: I'm listening, I have Sean, I know, I just I'm

2283
01:40:56,479 --> 01:40:58,799
Speaker 2: just wanting it's fine one of the all time greats

2284
01:40:58,960 --> 01:40:59,679
Speaker 2: use on the Mount.

2285
01:40:59,520 --> 01:41:01,960
Speaker 4: Rushmore cons head on.

2286
01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:04,680
Speaker 2: No, I just we're just talking about it. But I mean,

2287
01:41:04,760 --> 01:41:07,400
Speaker 2: just like you know, I asked, I asked Sean what

2288
01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:10,320
Speaker 2: he thought he thought Jacksonville saw. I was looking tonight

2289
01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:12,840
Speaker 2: to see what maybe would you think, idiot? What do

2290
01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:15,040
Speaker 2: you guys? I would I would put my money on

2291
01:41:15,240 --> 01:41:17,360
Speaker 2: on Kansas City over Jacksonville too.

2292
01:41:17,439 --> 01:41:19,240
Speaker 9: But I think that's gonna be an interesting game this

2293
01:41:19,320 --> 01:41:20,320
Speaker 9: weekend against Indy two.

2294
01:41:20,560 --> 01:41:23,080
Speaker 3: Thanks Sean, good good barometer for where since.

2295
01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:25,479
Speaker 2: But let's just say they lose cities at home, Like

2296
01:41:26,240 --> 01:41:28,439
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't put eleven wins off the table

2297
01:41:28,479 --> 01:41:32,800
Speaker 2: for them. Like they've done this before, Like, yeah, no,

2298
01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:35,280
Speaker 2: I hear it. When they're eliminated, then I will no

2299
01:41:35,400 --> 01:41:36,520
Speaker 2: longer be concerned.

2300
01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:39,639
Speaker 9: Theynern everybody, because yeah, you know, they're just that's they're

2301
01:41:39,680 --> 01:41:42,200
Speaker 9: the team right now that like Brady and Patriots until

2302
01:41:42,240 --> 01:41:42,760
Speaker 9: they're dead.

2303
01:41:43,640 --> 01:41:48,880
Speaker 2: Going into the nineteen playoffs, that team stunk like down

2304
01:41:48,920 --> 01:41:52,560
Speaker 2: the stretch, they were not good Patriots. Yeah, did you

2305
01:41:52,600 --> 01:41:54,439
Speaker 2: think they were going to be Tennessee here in the

2306
01:41:54,520 --> 01:41:55,280
Speaker 2: wildcard round?

2307
01:41:55,400 --> 01:41:55,680
Speaker 7: I did.

2308
01:41:57,000 --> 01:41:59,840
Speaker 2: I wonder that I did. I don't remember I did.

2309
01:42:00,160 --> 01:42:03,519
Speaker 5: And I also still believed in Santa Claus back then.

2310
01:42:03,520 --> 01:42:06,720
Speaker 2: So like I guess i'd like to think that I didn't. Yeah,

2311
01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:10,400
Speaker 2: but I'm like, it's still Brady Brady, It's still the Patriots.

2312
01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:12,240
Speaker 3: I think I remember saying there's no way they lose

2313
01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:12,639
Speaker 3: this game.

2314
01:42:12,920 --> 01:42:14,360
Speaker 9: It's funny you bring that up, Haul, because I was

2315
01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:17,000
Speaker 9: actually at some point recently looking back at that game

2316
01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:18,880
Speaker 9: and I was wondering that exact thing, because it was,

2317
01:42:19,000 --> 01:42:21,560
Speaker 9: you know, my first year. I still was kind of

2318
01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:24,040
Speaker 9: used to more being on the outside of it, and

2319
01:42:24,640 --> 01:42:28,000
Speaker 9: that was a tumultuous season and it certainly, like Dent

2320
01:42:28,040 --> 01:42:29,920
Speaker 9: did my faith a little bit and what the team

2321
01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:32,120
Speaker 9: was going to be able to do. But like at

2322
01:42:32,160 --> 01:42:33,519
Speaker 9: the same time, I don't know if it had been

2323
01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:35,360
Speaker 9: beaten out of me yet of like, well it's Bill

2324
01:42:35,439 --> 01:42:37,439
Speaker 9: and Tom, like come on, I don't I don't know,

2325
01:42:37,600 --> 01:42:39,000
Speaker 9: I have to I'd love to go back and look

2326
01:42:39,040 --> 01:42:40,320
Speaker 9: and see what I really felt about that.

2327
01:42:40,360 --> 01:42:42,840
Speaker 5: Well after eighteen, how could you? I mean, Like, that's

2328
01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:45,880
Speaker 5: where I keep going back to with Kansas City is

2329
01:42:46,200 --> 01:42:48,560
Speaker 5: if you had told me after the Miami Miracle that

2330
01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:50,160
Speaker 5: that team was going to win the Super Bowl in

2331
01:42:50,200 --> 01:42:52,160
Speaker 5: twenty eighteen, I would have said you were crazy, Like

2332
01:42:52,240 --> 01:42:54,439
Speaker 5: we were having like oh bits on the you know,

2333
01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:57,080
Speaker 5: after that game, on the season and on the Dynasty

2334
01:42:57,479 --> 01:42:59,960
Speaker 5: like that that it was over. I just wonder if

2335
01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:02,200
Speaker 5: Kansas City is just at that point now where they're

2336
01:43:02,240 --> 01:43:04,320
Speaker 5: just like, let's just get to the dance, Like, let's

2337
01:43:04,360 --> 01:43:06,360
Speaker 5: get in the dance and then we have Patrick Mahomes

2338
01:43:06,400 --> 01:43:09,000
Speaker 5: and we have Andy Reid, we have Travis Kelcey and

2339
01:43:09,200 --> 01:43:11,240
Speaker 5: Chris Jones and we'll figure it out.

2340
01:43:11,280 --> 01:43:13,680
Speaker 2: I'm kind of looking at them a little like the

2341
01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:15,880
Speaker 2: O nine Patriots, Like I just I don't think this

2342
01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:18,000
Speaker 2: is the year for them. You want to talk big picture,

2343
01:43:18,200 --> 01:43:20,360
Speaker 2: like where they're going where they're headed with this ceiling

2344
01:43:20,479 --> 01:43:22,280
Speaker 2: is I don't think this is it for them. I

2345
01:43:22,360 --> 01:43:26,200
Speaker 2: think they have too many, too many flaws. It stuts

2346
01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:29,040
Speaker 2: to me with that right tackle who is completely and

2347
01:43:29,120 --> 01:43:32,080
Speaker 2: utterly incompetent, Is it Juwan Taylor? Yes, I always say

2348
01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:35,240
Speaker 2: the wrong name. He can't line up. He can't line

2349
01:43:35,280 --> 01:43:37,280
Speaker 2: up because he has no faith in his ability. I mean,

2350
01:43:37,320 --> 01:43:39,679
Speaker 2: there's the reason why he's always in the backfield because

2351
01:43:39,680 --> 01:43:43,320
Speaker 2: he's cheating because he can't block straight up that completely.

2352
01:43:44,080 --> 01:43:47,000
Speaker 2: When I watch them play, they move the ball and

2353
01:43:47,080 --> 01:43:49,400
Speaker 2: then he either get sacked or forced to throw the

2354
01:43:49,439 --> 01:43:51,560
Speaker 2: ball away at some point to end a drive. And

2355
01:43:51,680 --> 01:43:54,679
Speaker 2: it's almost always at some point where he can't contain

2356
01:43:54,760 --> 01:43:56,760
Speaker 2: the guy in front of them. Yeah, and I don't

2357
01:43:56,800 --> 01:43:58,960
Speaker 2: know why. I have a lot of respect for Andy Reid.

2358
01:43:59,439 --> 01:44:01,439
Speaker 2: I don't know why they haven't figured that out to

2359
01:44:01,560 --> 01:44:05,040
Speaker 2: find somebody who can play better than him. But they haven't.

2360
01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:07,759
Speaker 2: And they have too many they have too many holes.

2361
01:44:08,000 --> 01:44:10,320
Speaker 2: It's like, how do you discern though, between because there

2362
01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:12,120
Speaker 2: are plenty of years. I'm sure you felt the Patriots

2363
01:44:12,160 --> 01:44:14,479
Speaker 2: just didn't have it that year nine was one. How

2364
01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:16,960
Speaker 2: do you differentiate though, between the Chiefs don't have it

2365
01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:18,720
Speaker 2: this year, or the Ravens just don't have it this year,

2366
01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:21,160
Speaker 2: they bills don't just or they're going to turn it

2367
01:44:21,200 --> 01:44:22,800
Speaker 2: on when they need to, you know that. But I'll

2368
01:44:22,840 --> 01:44:25,200
Speaker 2: give you another year that I didn't think the Patriots

2369
01:44:25,240 --> 01:44:28,439
Speaker 2: had it, and damn they almost did.

2370
01:44:28,760 --> 01:44:29,320
Speaker 4: Was six.

2371
01:44:30,360 --> 01:44:33,880
Speaker 2: They just weren't that good. Yeah, but or not? You know,

2372
01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:35,799
Speaker 2: you look, you look up and they've beaten a fourteen

2373
01:44:35,840 --> 01:44:37,920
Speaker 2: and two team on the road in the playoffs, and

2374
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:39,479
Speaker 2: then they have a twenty one to three lead in

2375
01:44:39,520 --> 01:44:42,080
Speaker 2: the AFC Championship game that obviously they couldn't hold on to.

2376
01:44:42,200 --> 01:44:44,680
Speaker 2: But I think that was a very simple. Well, they

2377
01:44:44,720 --> 01:44:45,479
Speaker 2: pumped in the flu.

2378
01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:47,880
Speaker 4: They're pumped in the flu and the noise the flu.

2379
01:44:48,520 --> 01:44:49,720
Speaker 2: They gave the whole team the flu.

2380
01:44:49,800 --> 01:44:50,599
Speaker 4: They put it in the gator.

2381
01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:54,920
Speaker 2: Well, you have Alexander to cover Dallas clock. You know

2382
01:44:55,040 --> 01:44:56,080
Speaker 2: that that might have had a problem.

2383
01:44:56,160 --> 01:44:59,360
Speaker 5: But Rodney Harris, But the question is is like Mahomes

2384
01:44:59,479 --> 01:45:02,280
Speaker 5: is timeline and I like is where you are like

2385
01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:05,800
Speaker 5: six oh nine timeline for Brady, But the rest of

2386
01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:08,240
Speaker 5: the team ain't like and you read sixty eight years old.

2387
01:45:08,720 --> 01:45:10,800
Speaker 5: You know, Travis Kelsey is gonna if he's not going

2388
01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:12,479
Speaker 5: to retire at the end of this year. He's retiring,

2389
01:45:12,920 --> 01:45:16,120
Speaker 5: so he's done. Chris Jones, I think, is also starting

2390
01:45:16,200 --> 01:45:18,720
Speaker 5: to be closer to Dune sure as well.

2391
01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:21,040
Speaker 2: So like, well, listen, they're not going to fall off

2392
01:45:21,080 --> 01:45:24,400
Speaker 2: the cliff, but it's a gradual but it's going to

2393
01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:26,839
Speaker 2: be very similar to the Patriots. But all of a sudden,

2394
01:45:27,120 --> 01:45:28,880
Speaker 2: you know, like because I agree with everything, I just.

2395
01:45:28,880 --> 01:45:32,040
Speaker 5: Don't because of the age of Reed. So like they're

2396
01:45:32,040 --> 01:45:34,840
Speaker 5: gonna have to They're gonna they need a new head coach. Yeah,

2397
01:45:34,840 --> 01:45:36,320
Speaker 5: they might, they might do. They might have to do

2398
01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:38,839
Speaker 5: the good thing of it. And it's kind of happening

2399
01:45:38,920 --> 01:45:43,200
Speaker 5: now too. Is that Bill and Brady age wise lined

2400
01:45:43,280 --> 01:45:45,760
Speaker 5: up perfectly that they both could be here for twenty years.

2401
01:45:46,439 --> 01:45:48,400
Speaker 5: That's not going to happen with Mahomes and and.

2402
01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:52,120
Speaker 2: And it's a good point. He's going to last. That's

2403
01:45:52,160 --> 01:45:53,920
Speaker 2: a good point. They need the Gronk Draft, you know,

2404
01:45:54,280 --> 01:45:57,120
Speaker 2: That's what I was getting at, Like, look at like

2405
01:45:57,240 --> 01:46:00,120
Speaker 2: the last couple of years. You know, it's guys like

2406
01:46:00,200 --> 01:46:05,040
Speaker 2: Brock Bauers and Sam Laporta and like Colston Loveland, Tyler Warren.

2407
01:46:06,160 --> 01:46:08,600
Speaker 2: They need they need one of those guys in the

2408
01:46:08,680 --> 01:46:11,080
Speaker 2: next draft, like in the first round. Maybe even not

2409
01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:13,519
Speaker 2: a great tight end draft. Okay, I don't care. Someone

2410
01:46:13,560 --> 01:46:16,640
Speaker 2: will be really good. Is pretty good, someone will be

2411
01:46:16,760 --> 01:46:20,439
Speaker 2: really good. They need to Evan's right, you know, they

2412
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:23,200
Speaker 2: need to They need to stop relying on Kelsey because

2413
01:46:23,200 --> 01:46:24,599
Speaker 2: he I mean, and he actually had a pretty good

2414
01:46:24,600 --> 01:46:26,559
Speaker 2: game the other day, but he didn't get it anymore.

2415
01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:30,160
Speaker 2: He can't be that guy for them anymore. I mean,

2416
01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:32,040
Speaker 2: it's literally but it can change like that.

2417
01:46:32,560 --> 01:46:36,240
Speaker 5: Taekwon Thornton, Xavier Worthy is a one trick pony or

2418
01:46:36,360 --> 01:46:37,799
Speaker 5: she Rice is back.

2419
01:46:37,640 --> 01:46:40,120
Speaker 2: But right, but Rice was terrible the other day and

2420
01:46:40,200 --> 01:46:42,280
Speaker 2: he's a better player than that. Yeah, but he was

2421
01:46:42,360 --> 01:46:43,400
Speaker 2: invisible in that game.

2422
01:46:43,640 --> 01:46:45,519
Speaker 5: It would be one thing if they were just the

2423
01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:48,080
Speaker 5: nine Patriots that just needed to turn the roster over

2424
01:46:48,360 --> 01:46:51,800
Speaker 5: around Brady and Belichick. But they might need a new coach.

2425
01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:51,960
Speaker 7: Now.

2426
01:46:52,080 --> 01:46:53,680
Speaker 2: Your point about the coach is a good one, and

2427
01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:55,760
Speaker 2: that and that does differentiate. That's a good point.

2428
01:46:56,240 --> 01:46:56,679
Speaker 4: Good point.

2429
01:46:57,160 --> 01:46:57,280
Speaker 7: You know.

2430
01:46:57,479 --> 01:47:00,880
Speaker 5: Is it Bill Wallace to George and the beat just

2431
01:47:01,000 --> 01:47:04,240
Speaker 5: keeps going on or is this to build a gerd

2432
01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:04,599
Speaker 5: my own?

2433
01:47:07,080 --> 01:47:09,519
Speaker 2: George Seffert was closer to Gerard Mao than.

2434
01:47:09,720 --> 01:47:10,639
Speaker 5: If it's Matt Nagy.

2435
01:47:12,040 --> 01:47:15,160
Speaker 2: Going back to the uh Thursday night games and teams

2436
01:47:15,200 --> 01:47:20,280
Speaker 2: with multiple ones, Dan from Maine says that the bill Seahawks, Rams, Dolphins, Broncos,

2437
01:47:20,280 --> 01:47:21,240
Speaker 2: and Eagles have two.

2438
01:47:21,800 --> 01:47:22,840
Speaker 4: The Cowboys have four.

2439
01:47:23,479 --> 01:47:26,160
Speaker 2: Well, the Cowboys played Opening Day, which doesn't to me

2440
01:47:26,280 --> 01:47:28,519
Speaker 2: count as that theresayn I despite the fact that it's

2441
01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:30,519
Speaker 2: played on Thursday. Now I agree with that, but they

2442
01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:33,000
Speaker 2: also play on Thanksgiving and then they play two other

2443
01:47:33,120 --> 01:47:37,680
Speaker 2: thanks Yeah, that's a lot. Yeah, that's a lot. You

2444
01:47:37,760 --> 01:47:39,439
Speaker 2: know three let's I agree with you.

2445
01:47:39,520 --> 01:47:42,280
Speaker 3: The first one doesn't count, but even three is too many.

2446
01:47:43,240 --> 01:47:45,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have to play on Thanksgiving because they're you know,

2447
01:47:46,040 --> 01:47:49,080
Speaker 2: they de Troy and Dallas play on well, I mean

2448
01:47:49,120 --> 01:47:50,040
Speaker 2: that's just the way they do it.

2449
01:47:52,360 --> 01:47:52,800
Speaker 4: But they don't.

2450
01:47:52,840 --> 01:47:54,439
Speaker 2: They shouldn't have to play two others.

2451
01:47:54,720 --> 01:47:55,280
Speaker 5: You play four.

2452
01:47:55,360 --> 01:47:57,160
Speaker 2: They should play one other, not two others.

2453
01:47:58,479 --> 01:48:00,360
Speaker 5: Why do they have well one of them? I think

2454
01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:01,040
Speaker 5: it's Christmas.

2455
01:48:01,760 --> 01:48:04,240
Speaker 2: Should we get rid of that tradition.

2456
01:48:03,960 --> 01:48:06,280
Speaker 4: Where the Lions and Cowboys have to play.

2457
01:48:06,120 --> 01:48:08,960
Speaker 2: On Evan clearly says yes, yes, I don't know.

2458
01:48:09,479 --> 01:48:11,880
Speaker 5: I like I at least the Lions now are good

2459
01:48:12,080 --> 01:48:14,559
Speaker 5: so like, but as a kid, it wasn't that case,

2460
01:48:14,600 --> 01:48:16,720
Speaker 5: and they were all you know, I love long hair

2461
01:48:16,800 --> 01:48:21,439
Speaker 5: Brady against the Lions. I mean, oh yeah, Brady at

2462
01:48:21,479 --> 01:48:23,920
Speaker 5: some point like can we just the best game?

2463
01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:26,080
Speaker 2: And selfishly I want to keep them there because that's

2464
01:48:26,680 --> 01:48:28,439
Speaker 2: less chances of having to play on things.

2465
01:48:28,800 --> 01:48:29,320
Speaker 4: That's true.

2466
01:48:29,600 --> 01:48:31,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, as a fan, if I was going to

2467
01:48:31,640 --> 01:48:33,840
Speaker 2: look at it from ten thousand feet, I would say, yeah,

2468
01:48:33,880 --> 01:48:36,439
Speaker 2: these guys are right. You know, let's have three NICs.

2469
01:48:36,680 --> 01:48:39,040
Speaker 2: Detroit's good now because you three different games every year.

2470
01:48:39,160 --> 01:48:40,960
Speaker 2: Force fed just got that Friday game?

2471
01:48:40,960 --> 01:48:43,320
Speaker 4: Who's got the Black Friday Game on Amazon this year?

2472
01:48:43,640 --> 01:48:44,439
Speaker 2: At the top of mind.

2473
01:48:45,240 --> 01:48:46,519
Speaker 4: And it's a double header, right.

2474
01:48:47,680 --> 01:48:50,240
Speaker 5: I think it's just one, just one Bears Eagles, which

2475
01:48:50,240 --> 01:48:50,599
Speaker 5: will be good.

2476
01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:52,000
Speaker 2: That's a that's a good matchup.

2477
01:48:52,040 --> 01:48:55,240
Speaker 5: Shout out to my boy looking pretty good, Ben Johnson

2478
01:48:55,320 --> 01:48:58,760
Speaker 5: there in Chicago. What's the name of that running back?

2479
01:48:58,800 --> 01:49:02,160
Speaker 2: They got mug wires something. I he looks good. I

2480
01:49:02,200 --> 01:49:03,040
Speaker 2: mean he runs hard.

2481
01:49:03,240 --> 01:49:05,000
Speaker 4: It's like when guy.

2482
01:49:05,960 --> 01:49:09,360
Speaker 5: Caleb Caleb looks are really good, really good.

2483
01:49:09,560 --> 01:49:12,400
Speaker 2: So I watch him a little bit and you know,

2484
01:49:12,439 --> 01:49:14,360
Speaker 2: again we got a chance to see that. Like, I

2485
01:49:14,479 --> 01:49:17,000
Speaker 2: think he looks better than his numbers would indicate. I

2486
01:49:17,080 --> 01:49:19,920
Speaker 2: think he looks like a whole different guy from that's all.

2487
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:22,120
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson, he's a problem man. You can't he can't

2488
01:49:22,160 --> 01:49:24,240
Speaker 2: get him down. I mean, he's just so slippery. He

2489
01:49:24,320 --> 01:49:27,320
Speaker 2: still doesn't have great numbers, though his stats are made

2490
01:49:27,360 --> 01:49:27,760
Speaker 2: at best.

2491
01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:32,280
Speaker 5: It is crazy to see the exposition between Ben Johnson

2492
01:49:32,320 --> 01:49:35,839
Speaker 5: and Rable, Like they just could not be more polar opposite.

2493
01:49:35,840 --> 01:49:37,880
Speaker 2: It's great if they both end up being really good.

2494
01:49:37,960 --> 01:49:39,760
Speaker 2: That's great for the league. I don't have to do

2495
01:49:39,840 --> 01:49:40,400
Speaker 2: it one way.

2496
01:49:41,200 --> 01:49:44,160
Speaker 5: Was like Bear's Patriots super Bowl. Down the line is

2497
01:49:44,320 --> 01:49:47,800
Speaker 5: like our super Bowl. It's like the football guy versus

2498
01:49:47,920 --> 01:49:50,600
Speaker 5: the nerd Drake and Caleb like it just.

2499
01:49:51,160 --> 01:49:52,720
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Like everybody's like, oh, you

2500
01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:54,040
Speaker 2: got to do it this wee you gotta have the

2501
01:49:54,120 --> 01:49:57,560
Speaker 2: tight pants offensive mind. You know there's a or you know,

2502
01:49:58,160 --> 01:49:59,880
Speaker 2: no defense still wins championships.

2503
01:50:00,040 --> 01:50:00,840
Speaker 7: Got to do it that way.

2504
01:50:01,160 --> 01:50:03,160
Speaker 2: No, Like there's a lot of different ways to win.

2505
01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:04,840
Speaker 2: I think it'd be great if both of those guys

2506
01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:07,559
Speaker 2: who I agree with Evan those they're kind of polar opposites.

2507
01:50:07,920 --> 01:50:08,200
Speaker 7: Bart And.

2508
01:50:08,280 --> 01:50:11,760
Speaker 3: Poland says, I don't want to brag, but this was

2509
01:50:11,840 --> 01:50:14,880
Speaker 3: part of my email from beginning of August. I really

2510
01:50:14,920 --> 01:50:17,120
Speaker 3: don't think ten wins this season is that far fester

2511
01:50:17,240 --> 01:50:19,880
Speaker 3: and realistic. With some good luck, the right breaks and

2512
01:50:19,960 --> 01:50:22,479
Speaker 3: a big year two leap from Drake, even eleven or

2513
01:50:22,520 --> 01:50:25,200
Speaker 3: twelve wouldn't totally shock me, end quote.

2514
01:50:25,720 --> 01:50:28,160
Speaker 2: And we are looking nicely for at least those twelve wins.

2515
01:50:28,200 --> 01:50:30,320
Speaker 3: Obviously, if we go fourteen and three and get the

2516
01:50:30,400 --> 01:50:33,280
Speaker 3: number one seed, that would be really surprising from the

2517
01:50:33,320 --> 01:50:34,439
Speaker 3: preseason perspective.

2518
01:50:34,479 --> 01:50:38,280
Speaker 2: But let's act like let's not act like nobody.

2519
01:50:38,280 --> 01:50:40,920
Speaker 3: Had us having around twelve wins before the season with

2520
01:50:41,080 --> 01:50:42,280
Speaker 3: May making a big leap.

2521
01:50:42,600 --> 01:50:43,920
Speaker 4: Well, Bart, you were one of them.

2522
01:50:43,960 --> 01:50:46,040
Speaker 5: I'm going to give Erson that had twelve wins.

2523
01:50:46,160 --> 01:50:48,759
Speaker 2: I'm going to get Bart as flowers because I believe

2524
01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:50,880
Speaker 2: that he wrote that in and I'll bet anything that

2525
01:50:50,960 --> 01:50:55,280
Speaker 2: I laughed except for the part about Drake May's second

2526
01:50:55,560 --> 01:50:57,599
Speaker 2: year two leaps. Here was always my caveat.

2527
01:50:57,640 --> 01:50:59,920
Speaker 3: But I think he would have had to have a

2528
01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:03,840
Speaker 3: y or two leave to have ten wins. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah,

2529
01:51:04,040 --> 01:51:05,519
Speaker 3: I forget twelve or fourteen.

2530
01:51:05,600 --> 01:51:07,240
Speaker 2: I mean, you watch some of these other teams.

2531
01:51:07,439 --> 01:51:09,679
Speaker 9: You know that the Patriots have played Carolina, the Falcons

2532
01:51:09,760 --> 01:51:11,240
Speaker 9: that are so up and down week to week and.

2533
01:51:11,240 --> 01:51:12,800
Speaker 2: They win one and they lose one, and you know,

2534
01:51:12,880 --> 01:51:15,960
Speaker 2: you just Carolina up and down inconsistency, young Carolina is

2535
01:51:16,439 --> 01:51:18,920
Speaker 2: I mean Atlanta, Oh yeah, yeah, well but you know

2536
01:51:19,000 --> 01:51:19,720
Speaker 2: they won some games.

2537
01:51:20,120 --> 01:51:22,679
Speaker 9: I mean, you know it's I mean it's not every

2538
01:51:22,720 --> 01:51:26,320
Speaker 9: back and forth, but what is that your Carolina team they.

2539
01:51:26,320 --> 01:51:28,439
Speaker 2: Keep they keep on that back and but you know

2540
01:51:28,479 --> 01:51:30,160
Speaker 2: what I mean, like frisky every other week.

2541
01:51:30,040 --> 01:51:32,320
Speaker 5: That you would play like they're frisky.

2542
01:51:32,560 --> 01:51:34,320
Speaker 9: All these teams are kind of frisky. Yeah, I don't

2543
01:51:34,320 --> 01:51:37,000
Speaker 9: think incredibly unfrisky.

2544
01:51:37,120 --> 01:51:40,840
Speaker 2: Well Carolina. Carolina is the epitome of your frisk.

2545
01:51:40,840 --> 01:51:45,120
Speaker 5: Week four Carolina, that blowout looking a little bit better some.

2546
01:51:45,240 --> 01:51:48,200
Speaker 2: Weeks, next week's better. Next week it'll look bad.

2547
01:51:49,800 --> 01:51:51,519
Speaker 5: On defense this week it looks.

2548
01:51:51,880 --> 01:51:54,479
Speaker 9: But I just think generally speaking that that is what

2549
01:51:54,600 --> 01:51:56,960
Speaker 9: we expected the Patriots to be. One of those teams

2550
01:51:57,000 --> 01:51:59,160
Speaker 9: that they beat a bad team they lose to, you know,

2551
01:51:59,600 --> 01:52:00,000
Speaker 9: up and down.

2552
01:52:00,240 --> 01:52:02,400
Speaker 2: And I said it a million times. There's like twelve

2553
01:52:02,520 --> 01:52:04,720
Speaker 2: toss up games. They're probably going to go six and six.

2554
01:52:05,640 --> 01:52:07,800
Speaker 2: Instead they're going to go ten and two. Yeah, right right,

2555
01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:09,560
Speaker 2: and there it is. They're going to go ten and

2556
01:52:09,640 --> 01:52:11,599
Speaker 2: two with those toss up games. Because I don't see

2557
01:52:11,640 --> 01:52:14,640
Speaker 2: them losing to Cincinnati. No, Cincinnati wasn't even one of

2558
01:52:14,680 --> 01:52:16,080
Speaker 2: the toss up games. I don't see them losing to

2559
01:52:16,120 --> 01:52:21,360
Speaker 2: the Giants. Well, the Dolphins, Jets, those are the to me,

2560
01:52:21,439 --> 01:52:25,000
Speaker 2: the remaining toss up games. I don't see them losing those.

2561
01:52:25,200 --> 01:52:25,519
Speaker 3: I Uh.

2562
01:52:26,080 --> 01:52:29,280
Speaker 5: The Atlanta thing fascinates me because I would think that

2563
01:52:29,360 --> 01:52:32,759
Speaker 5: they're in the head coach and maybe even they traded

2564
01:52:32,800 --> 01:52:33,679
Speaker 5: their first round pick.

2565
01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:36,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you know who hasn't Yeah, the Rams,

2566
01:52:37,280 --> 01:52:39,360
Speaker 2: you know who might have their quarterback of the future

2567
01:52:39,400 --> 01:52:42,160
Speaker 2: in this next draft if they find one that they

2568
01:52:42,280 --> 01:52:43,439
Speaker 2: really like, and there it is.

2569
01:52:43,800 --> 01:52:46,400
Speaker 5: They they traded their first round pick for James Pierce,

2570
01:52:46,439 --> 01:52:48,879
Speaker 5: who's been fine, but like not worth.

2571
01:52:48,680 --> 01:52:49,880
Speaker 2: Trading worth trading up there.

2572
01:52:49,960 --> 01:52:52,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, and they so they don't have a first round

2573
01:52:52,360 --> 01:52:55,519
Speaker 5: pick next year. They've completely broken Pennix, Like he's just

2574
01:52:55,640 --> 01:53:00,439
Speaker 5: completely broken literally amphis Yeah, and you're right, literally, like

2575
01:53:00,640 --> 01:53:03,080
Speaker 5: so that that whole thing could be turned over again.

2576
01:53:03,160 --> 01:53:04,080
Speaker 5: That might be an entire.

2577
01:53:04,000 --> 01:53:06,360
Speaker 2: Clean Another one that bugged me, like, I have nothing

2578
01:53:06,520 --> 01:53:10,320
Speaker 2: like Michael Panix. He's fine, like whatever, Oh too bad.

2579
01:53:10,400 --> 01:53:12,799
Speaker 2: This kid just can't catch a break. He can't stay healthy,

2580
01:53:12,920 --> 01:53:16,240
Speaker 2: like that's not been the problem. Like he's not very

2581
01:53:16,280 --> 01:53:19,240
Speaker 2: good well, but he like he came out of college

2582
01:53:19,320 --> 01:53:19,919
Speaker 2: with injuries.

2583
01:53:20,280 --> 01:53:23,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like that that he's had six career season

2584
01:53:23,560 --> 01:53:24,880
Speaker 3: ending injuries in his career.

2585
01:53:25,240 --> 01:53:26,320
Speaker 2: How many seasons as he played?

2586
01:53:26,400 --> 01:53:29,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, he well, he had like there's all that picture

2587
01:53:29,520 --> 01:53:31,680
Speaker 5: that goes around with him with in a wheelchair with

2588
01:53:31,800 --> 01:53:36,120
Speaker 5: both knees all wrapped up. He's he's had like significant

2589
01:53:36,240 --> 01:53:39,160
Speaker 5: knee injuries, like not just like oh, he tore his

2590
01:53:39,240 --> 01:53:42,960
Speaker 5: acl when he was seventeen, Like he's had knee injuries

2591
01:53:42,960 --> 01:53:45,280
Speaker 5: in the past that were career threatening already and now

2592
01:53:45,320 --> 01:53:46,040
Speaker 5: he has another one.

2593
01:53:46,360 --> 01:53:48,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, No, I mean like he had a lot

2594
01:53:48,160 --> 01:53:51,040
Speaker 2: of injuries in college for sure, But like I don't

2595
01:53:51,040 --> 01:53:53,840
Speaker 2: think he's played all that well. I don't think it's

2596
01:53:53,880 --> 01:53:55,880
Speaker 2: because of his injuries that have like they were like

2597
01:53:55,960 --> 01:53:58,559
Speaker 2: he's played really well and then and then he gets hurt,

2598
01:53:59,120 --> 01:54:01,880
Speaker 2: you know, like JJ mcarthy, we have no idea, Like

2599
01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:04,840
Speaker 2: he missed his whole rookie year and then one game

2600
01:54:04,920 --> 01:54:08,559
Speaker 2: into his second year he's out for six weeks. Now

2601
01:54:08,640 --> 01:54:10,120
Speaker 2: when he has played, he hasn't played well.

2602
01:54:10,200 --> 01:54:11,439
Speaker 5: Out for six weeks.

2603
01:54:12,800 --> 01:54:13,679
Speaker 2: He missed six games.

2604
01:54:16,160 --> 01:54:20,479
Speaker 3: Oh you're saying maybe like a quiet Ben j Okay

2605
01:54:20,840 --> 01:54:22,160
Speaker 3: for Carson Wentz.

2606
01:54:23,760 --> 01:54:27,000
Speaker 5: He played like one good quarter of football and he.

2607
01:54:27,680 --> 01:54:31,599
Speaker 2: Has not played. That's not My point. Wasn't that he's good.

2608
01:54:31,960 --> 01:54:34,880
Speaker 2: My point was if someone wanted to argue and say, well,

2609
01:54:34,920 --> 01:54:37,160
Speaker 2: we haven't really seen enough from j. J. McCarthy because

2610
01:54:37,160 --> 01:54:40,840
Speaker 2: he's always hurt. He's always hurt, like Michael Penicks just

2611
01:54:40,920 --> 01:54:43,960
Speaker 2: got hurt, Like he missed one game with like a

2612
01:54:44,400 --> 01:54:47,440
Speaker 2: like a bruise knee or something in his career prior

2613
01:54:47,560 --> 01:54:50,760
Speaker 2: to this. Right, he didn't miss it, did he? Like,

2614
01:54:50,840 --> 01:54:52,960
Speaker 2: am I misremembering? Did he miss time last year with

2615
01:54:53,000 --> 01:54:53,440
Speaker 2: an injury?

2616
01:54:54,720 --> 01:54:57,480
Speaker 5: No, he just didn't start right away and he finished

2617
01:54:57,480 --> 01:55:02,520
Speaker 5: the season mid at best. JJ McCarthy's like just hitting

2618
01:55:02,600 --> 01:55:03,920
Speaker 5: ball boys on the sideline.

2619
01:55:04,240 --> 01:55:08,160
Speaker 2: It's like it's like Lance blew on his knee, like

2620
01:55:08,240 --> 01:55:10,840
Speaker 2: in the first game that he ever played his alter

2621
01:55:10,960 --> 01:55:11,640
Speaker 2: ego nine.

2622
01:55:12,040 --> 01:55:12,240
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2623
01:55:13,240 --> 01:55:15,560
Speaker 5: I love it when like he's like like airmail is

2624
01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:17,240
Speaker 5: a receiver on the sideline and someone on the.

2625
01:55:17,240 --> 01:55:21,120
Speaker 2: Bench is like, did you see like like any shots

2626
01:55:21,320 --> 01:55:22,800
Speaker 2: like Jefferson in this game?

2627
01:55:22,960 --> 01:55:23,160
Speaker 7: Yeah?

2628
01:55:23,240 --> 01:55:23,440
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2629
01:55:24,440 --> 01:55:27,480
Speaker 2: Can we pry him loose to New England? JJ? Justin Jets,

2630
01:55:27,520 --> 01:55:29,640
Speaker 2: give me it's great.

2631
01:55:29,960 --> 01:55:35,920
Speaker 3: I'm Ryan, and Quincy writes in hand up, I'm walking

2632
01:55:36,000 --> 01:55:38,200
Speaker 3: back my take that this team is not in win

2633
01:55:38,360 --> 01:55:39,080
Speaker 3: mode now.

2634
01:55:40,480 --> 01:55:41,480
Speaker 4: Or win now mode.

2635
01:55:42,120 --> 01:55:44,600
Speaker 3: Uh, this team's just won and covered a game in

2636
01:55:44,720 --> 01:55:47,360
Speaker 3: prime time on a short week while playing a C

2637
01:55:47,560 --> 01:55:50,120
Speaker 3: minus game at best. That's a sign of a team

2638
01:55:50,200 --> 01:55:53,320
Speaker 3: that can win at all. Also, I'm not sure if

2639
01:55:53,360 --> 01:55:56,960
Speaker 3: you have heard Drake's new nickname that the haters are using. Uh,

2640
01:55:57,080 --> 01:56:02,440
Speaker 3: they're starting to call him the schedule. I haven't heard that. Okay,

2641
01:56:02,600 --> 01:56:04,000
Speaker 3: have you heard that? No, I haven't heard that.

2642
01:56:04,080 --> 01:56:05,480
Speaker 2: I just heard Drake Drake May May.

2643
01:56:05,640 --> 01:56:07,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, Drake Drake May May is his nickname.

2644
01:56:10,680 --> 01:56:11,560
Speaker 2: We can do better than that.

2645
01:56:11,720 --> 01:56:14,840
Speaker 5: No, Well, that's the point is that he doesn't need

2646
01:56:14,880 --> 01:56:18,640
Speaker 5: a nickname. He's just Drake May because everybody says the

2647
01:56:18,760 --> 01:56:20,560
Speaker 5: full name first of all, which is I think it

2648
01:56:20,560 --> 01:56:22,640
Speaker 5: is feeling. I feel like it's true. Like you know,

2649
01:56:22,760 --> 01:56:25,200
Speaker 5: whenever anybody brings him up, it's always Drake May. It's

2650
01:56:25,240 --> 01:56:26,680
Speaker 5: not May, it's just Drake May.

2651
01:56:26,760 --> 01:56:28,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to pay attention to that. I'll see

2652
01:56:28,600 --> 01:56:29,600
Speaker 2: if I d May May.

2653
01:56:30,200 --> 01:56:32,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, Because everybody was trying to come up with a

2654
01:56:32,360 --> 01:56:35,920
Speaker 5: nickname for him, and then the nickname that that settled

2655
01:56:35,960 --> 01:56:37,400
Speaker 5: on was just well, he's just Drake.

2656
01:56:37,480 --> 01:56:40,120
Speaker 2: May come up with a new tradition. You can't come

2657
01:56:40,200 --> 01:56:42,240
Speaker 2: up with a new nickname when you're trying. It just

2658
01:56:42,360 --> 01:56:44,160
Speaker 2: has to happen, Okay.

2659
01:56:44,880 --> 01:56:48,000
Speaker 4: One final exactly, no, I know, and.

2660
01:56:48,040 --> 01:56:49,760
Speaker 2: He called me d trained for the first like month

2661
01:56:49,800 --> 01:56:51,360
Speaker 2: I worked here and that didn't work out.

2662
01:56:51,880 --> 01:56:54,960
Speaker 3: One final email, Chris and Virginia, thank you for your service.

2663
01:56:55,000 --> 01:56:57,040
Speaker 3: A few months ago or a few shows ago, I

2664
01:56:57,080 --> 01:56:59,960
Speaker 3: should say, someone mentioned that the upcoming game against the

2665
01:57:00,120 --> 01:57:03,080
Speaker 3: Bills is not possible to be flex because the first

2666
01:57:03,120 --> 01:57:05,600
Speaker 3: matchup between the two teams was already on primetime.

2667
01:57:06,120 --> 01:57:07,200
Speaker 4: Are there any other rules?

2668
01:57:07,280 --> 01:57:07,400
Speaker 3: Now?

2669
01:57:07,440 --> 01:57:08,160
Speaker 4: I'm not sure about that.

2670
01:57:08,280 --> 01:57:09,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't know that that.

2671
01:57:09,440 --> 01:57:10,680
Speaker 4: I'm not sure that's the case.

2672
01:57:11,120 --> 01:57:13,960
Speaker 2: There's a running theory that the NFL doesn't like to

2673
01:57:14,040 --> 01:57:16,080
Speaker 2: have the same two teams play in primetime in the

2674
01:57:16,120 --> 01:57:18,680
Speaker 2: same year. According to Microsoft co pilot, there is no

2675
01:57:18,920 --> 01:57:21,640
Speaker 2: rule that says that they cannot. Yeah, but I need

2676
01:57:21,720 --> 01:57:23,440
Speaker 2: the NFL rule that one.

2677
01:57:23,560 --> 01:57:25,400
Speaker 4: Are there any other rules to prevent a game from

2678
01:57:25,440 --> 01:57:26,000
Speaker 4: being flex?

2679
01:57:26,040 --> 01:57:28,640
Speaker 3: I'm specifically looking at the game in Baltimore that we

2680
01:57:28,760 --> 01:57:31,960
Speaker 3: have tickets for and wondering what chances there is of

2681
01:57:32,080 --> 01:57:33,800
Speaker 3: that game being flex.

2682
01:57:33,560 --> 01:57:37,040
Speaker 2: I think there's a very small chance of that game

2683
01:57:37,280 --> 01:57:39,320
Speaker 2: being played at one o'clock on Sunday. Let me just

2684
01:57:39,320 --> 01:57:40,800
Speaker 2: put it that way. I don't know go to four,

2685
01:57:40,840 --> 01:57:42,440
Speaker 2: I don't know where they'll move it to, but I'd

2686
01:57:42,520 --> 01:57:44,080
Speaker 2: be very surprised if it's stayed at one.

2687
01:57:44,200 --> 01:57:47,240
Speaker 5: I'm thinking for twenty five, has you know game of

2688
01:57:47,320 --> 01:57:49,760
Speaker 5: the week Nance and Romo for twenty five.

2689
01:57:50,040 --> 01:57:51,080
Speaker 2: Does kind of seem like that?

2690
01:57:51,240 --> 01:57:53,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, that's going to be it for this

2691
01:57:53,760 --> 01:57:57,280
Speaker 3: edition of Patriots Unfiltered on a Tuesday. We'll see it

2692
01:57:57,320 --> 01:58:01,840
Speaker 3: tomorrow at noon. Evan, you've got Catch twenty two at ten, correct.

2693
01:58:01,920 --> 01:58:04,680
Speaker 3: I always take this opportunity to check in a wellness

2694
01:58:04,760 --> 01:58:05,360
Speaker 3: check on Barth.

2695
01:58:05,400 --> 01:58:05,960
Speaker 4: How's he doing?

2696
01:58:06,120 --> 01:58:09,600
Speaker 5: Doing very well? Worked a lot this weekend. Yes, he's

2697
01:58:09,840 --> 01:58:11,440
Speaker 5: very disappointed with him about.

2698
01:58:11,200 --> 01:58:12,240
Speaker 2: A lot of people taking time off.

2699
01:58:12,400 --> 01:58:14,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just like, you know, you can say no

2700
01:58:15,240 --> 01:58:17,680
Speaker 5: to all the like at some point. Now he's on

2701
01:58:17,760 --> 01:58:20,040
Speaker 5: felgriham Maz on Friday, and I told him that don't

2702
01:58:20,080 --> 01:58:21,840
Speaker 5: say no to if they ask you to be on

2703
01:58:22,280 --> 01:58:24,240
Speaker 5: the third chair on felgrim Maz, you go do that.

2704
01:58:24,400 --> 01:58:27,160
Speaker 5: But all the seventeen other podcasts that he had to do.

2705
01:58:27,600 --> 01:58:29,160
Speaker 5: Besides that, I'm like, it's not.

2706
01:58:29,320 --> 01:58:31,160
Speaker 4: Work for him though, you don't understand.

2707
01:58:31,360 --> 01:58:34,560
Speaker 2: No, he loves this. This is his passions, lives for.

2708
01:58:34,720 --> 01:58:36,360
Speaker 5: He needs a girl this way.

2709
01:58:36,480 --> 01:58:37,800
Speaker 4: His girlfriend is Pickskin.

2710
01:58:38,280 --> 01:58:41,320
Speaker 2: Your wife doesn't have any friends, nice, nice single friend.

2711
01:58:42,400 --> 01:58:43,200
Speaker 4: He's married to the.

2712
01:58:44,680 --> 01:58:48,120
Speaker 3: All right, so you'll be with Barth at ten. We'll

2713
01:58:48,200 --> 01:58:50,120
Speaker 3: be back at noon. We're going to turn the page

2714
01:58:50,160 --> 01:58:53,560
Speaker 3: to the Cincinnati Bengals. See by then, maybe we'll have

2715
01:58:53,640 --> 01:58:55,040
Speaker 3: some developments on the chase.

2716
01:58:55,120 --> 01:58:57,400
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be supposed to be heard today.

2717
01:58:57,560 --> 01:59:00,360
Speaker 5: All the insiders are saying tonight, okay, all.

2718
01:59:00,320 --> 01:59:01,160
Speaker 4: Right, see you tomorrow.

2719
01:59:03,760 --> 01:59:04,600
Speaker 2: Hey, this is Alex.

2720
01:59:04,680 --> 01:59:05,840
Speaker 5: Thanks for tuning into the show.

2721
01:59:05,960 --> 01:59:07,840
Speaker 2: If you really want to help us, make sure you like.

2722
01:59:07,920 --> 01:59:11,280
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2723
01:59:11,720 --> 01:59:13,919
Speaker 2: Also, make sure you follow us on the New England.

2724
01:59:13,720 --> 01:59:16,520
Speaker 11: Patriots YouTube channel to see this show and everything else

2725
01:59:16,600 --> 01:59:17,800
Speaker 11: we do here at the Patriots.

2726
01:59:18,040 --> 01:59:18,560
Speaker 2: Thanks a lot,