1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Tomorrow from one to four pm the debut of the 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: John Cobbolt Show. And of course I'm sure everybody we 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: happy to have John Beck in the chair. Tim Connmay 4 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: coming up at four o'clock of course, and by the way, 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: I'll be in for Gary and Shannon and right after 6 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 1: Christmas the twenty seventh, eighth, and ninth, and looking forward 7 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: to that as well. Let's talk about this hour as well. 8 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: And I'm going to tell you about some places not 9 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: to visit in southern California, and the last orange grove 10 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: in the valley is threatened. We'll get into all of 11 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: that in just a bit. I saw this story and 12 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: it occurred to me. We just did. I just told 13 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:35,319 Speaker 1: you if you're here at the end of the last hour, 14 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: about this amazing new technology. This company's testing in Detroit 15 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: where they buried inductive charging coils in the asphalt and 16 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: it charges electric vehicles while you're driving on them. Okay, 17 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: that's the upside of technology. Here's a downside. There are 18 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: apps called I guess new Toify. You've heard of Spotify, right, Well, 19 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: this is new Toifi and I guess there's all kinds 20 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: of apps that you can go and sign up for 21 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: you pay the U use them, and you uploaded image 22 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: of somebody that you would like to see naked, and 23 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 1: then you can see that person naked. AI creates an 24 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: image of that person nude, and I'm not really sure why. Well, 25 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,199 Speaker 1: people are doing it for all kinds of reasons, including sextortion. 26 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: They can send it to people and then say, unless 27 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: you pay me with you know, crypto, I'm gonna distribute 28 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: this to whoever. I think most people would say, what 29 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: kind of nonsense is this? 30 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: That's not me. 31 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: I didn't take that picture. I wasn't in that post. 32 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: I can't even get my leg up like that. You know, 33 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: I got a crick in my shoulder. If I tried 34 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: to do that, I'd be in traction. But whatever. Apparently 35 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: there's a whole bunch of these things. One company that 36 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: I'm not even. 37 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: Gonna give you the name of it because why encourage it. 38 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: But it's called an undressing app, and it used language 39 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: and its ad to suggest that customers can create nude 40 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: images and then send them to the person whose image 41 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: was digitally undressed, which is basically it's just harassment. And 42 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of inevitable that this would be 43 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: the case with AI, because pornography has driven the bus 44 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: of all the visual technologies. I mean, I think if 45 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: you go back to cave paintings, you could find, you know, 46 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: the caveman, you know, scratching a picture of the hot 47 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: cave woman, you know, across the street on the wall 48 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,119 Speaker 1: of a cave somewhere. But when when home video recorders 49 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 1: started and VHS tapes, everybody liked to think, Oh, yes, 50 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: everybody's gonna be uh, you know, renting a copy of 51 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: Casa Blanca because they want to watch, you know ingmar 52 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: Bergman and Humphrey Bogard, Sam Frankly, my dear, No, that's 53 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: gone with the wind. We'll always have Parish. But the 54 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: reality is is that it was recording kinky bedroom videos 55 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: and I'm watching porn was a huge driving engine of 56 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: the home video market. Now the home video people like 57 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: to talk about it, but that was true. And then 58 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: along came the Internet, and who needs VHS tapes or 59 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: DVDs when you can just download anything you want from 60 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: anywhere in the world all the time. Whatever bizarre kink 61 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: you have, you can find someone to scratch that itch online. 62 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 2: Everybody knows this right. 63 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: Well, now AI comes along and The technology is inevitable. 64 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: And we've been warned about deep fake videos for a 65 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: long time, where you can make a video of Joe 66 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: Biden saying anything or Donald Trump. Actually you don't have to. 67 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: You don't have to make a video of Joe Biden 68 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: or Donald Trump saying anything. They pretty much either say 69 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: it accidentally or deliberately and don't care. But you know 70 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: what I mean, you could make a video now the 71 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: technology exists to take a video of a public figure 72 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: and make it look like they're doing a commercial for 73 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: a product. Tom Hanks has spoken out and gone to 74 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: court to try to stop people from using his image 75 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: and video image of him endorsing products that he has 76 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: nothing to do with, knew nothing about. And now it 77 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: literally could be used to harass kids in high school 78 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:26,119 Speaker 1: or middle school or grammar school. Who knows with deep 79 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:32,239 Speaker 1: fake videos. So the technology is just you know. Dwight 80 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: Eisenhower said something many moons ago in the nuclear age 81 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: about how and I'm paraphrasing, not quoting, but he talks 82 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: about the nuclear threat and he said, in essence, our 83 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: ability to destroy ourselves has leaped beyond our capacity to 84 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 1: even comprehend it. And that's really what's happening with the 85 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: technological revolution that the ability of the digital universe to 86 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 1: be manipulated in create new realities in imagery that's so 87 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: realistic that people can't even tell. There's no way to 88 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: really tell unless they can do the digital forensics on it, 89 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: get into the metadata and really analyze it that it's 90 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: a fake versus reality. And the ability to put this 91 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: stuff globally and impact lives at a very granular level 92 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: is enormous and it could be used for good, but 93 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: it threatens jobs. That was one of the big issues 94 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: in the writer's strike and the actors strike, and you 95 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: know where the studios wanted to, you know, have perpetual 96 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: usage of people's faces that they could manipulate into background 97 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: actors for a century. 98 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 2: To come or beyond. They never have to hire anybody again. 99 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: The technology is incredible, but used it to You look 100 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: at the pressures that young people are under right now 101 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: with sexting that goes on and young girls are pressured 102 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: to do it or they use it because it's one 103 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: way to get popular. Of course, only a young person 104 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: would think that's a way to get popular, but it's true. 105 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: All the pressures have been documented We've talked about a 106 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: thousand times. You've read all kinds of articles and seen 107 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: news reports about this. If you're a parent, you know 108 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: that this is a constant threat if you have a 109 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: young girl in the house, and you have to constantly 110 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: monitor what their social media usage is and pray that 111 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: they're not falling victim to this. And now there's new 112 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: tools that are out there, and this has gone up. 113 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: According to a company called Graphica that is a marketing 114 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: company that studies this stuff, the number of links advertising 115 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: undressing apps increase by more than twenty four hundred percent 116 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: on social media, including on x and Reddit. According to 117 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: the researchers, the services use AI to recreate an image 118 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: so that the person is nude, and many of the 119 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: services only work on women. Undoubtedly there'll be a market 120 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: for men as well. These apps are part of the 121 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: trend of non consensual pornography being developed and distributed because 122 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: of advances in AI. It's a type of fabricated media 123 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: known as deep fake photography. Its proliferation runs into serious 124 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: legal and ethical hurdles because there's no actual laws against it. 125 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: Because here's the challenge, and we've had this story attached 126 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: to child pornography as well. Is it actually child pornography 127 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: if it's a digitally created image? In other words, it's 128 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: not an actual child, it's just it looks exactly like 129 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: a child. So who is the victim, Well, the potential 130 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: victim is any child who runs into the person who's 131 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: addicted to the app and to the technology. But that's 132 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: a lot of steps, that's a lot of dots that 133 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: have to be connected in order to make a prosecutable 134 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: offense out of it. 135 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: So you know, it's the it. 136 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: I guess it's the it's the age old lesson that 137 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: when a new technology comes along, the actual intention of 138 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: the inventor is one thing, but how is it applied? 139 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 2: As another? 140 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: I am reminded of a story that Orville Right of 141 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: the Wright Brothers fame, told many moons ago that when 142 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: the airplane. When they invented the airplane, they didn't see 143 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: it as a weapon of war. They understood that it 144 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: would be a powerful tool and could be used for 145 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: illicit purposes or purposes they didn't intend. But they actually 146 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: got a peace medal from a French peace society because 147 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 1: at the turn of the last century, when the airplane 148 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: was a newborn wars were fought by surprise attacks and 149 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: outflanking the enemy army. But now that the airplane existed, 150 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: you always knew where the other army was. You can 151 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: fly up one thousand feet and you can see over 152 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: the next hillside, and you can see exactly where everybody was. 153 00:08:58,280 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: Well, guess what happened in World War One? 154 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: They always knew where the other army was, so they 155 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: dug trenches and lobbed gas canisters at each other for 156 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: four years and killed twenty million people because no one 157 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: could ever get a tactical advantage over the other one. Well, 158 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: the Ripers didn't see that happening when they invented the airplane. 159 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: And the people who were dazzled by seeing these guys 160 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 1: flying around the racetrack of Lamon's and then at Fort Meyer, 161 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: Virginia with the first public flights, they were dazzled by it. 162 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: There was a miracle. 163 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: They didn't look at it as a potential weapon of 164 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: mass destruction, which it quickly became. And you know that's 165 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: what happens with new technologies. You have the intended purpose 166 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: and the potentiality for it to be a blessing to mankind, 167 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: and then people who pervert the purpose for awful reasons. 168 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: In the movie Oppenheimer, which got a whole basket full 169 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 1: of Golden Globe dominations along with Barbie, it talks about 170 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: the moral dilemma that Oppenheimer and the so scientists working 171 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: on the Manhattan Project wrestled with because they understood that 172 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: the Germans the Nazis were working on this and they 173 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 1: couldn't allow that to happen. They couldn't allow the Nazis 174 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: to get this weapon, so we had to beat him 175 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: to the punch. And then after the weapon was proved practicable, 176 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 1: Hitler was already dead. There are a lot of people 177 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: in the nuclear community in the United States said well, 178 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: let's not use it. Then let's not use it. But 179 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: meanwhile Truman had to make a decision. I'm going to 180 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: have to order US servicemen to a mainland invasion of Japan. 181 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: But I got this weapon that they're telling me could 182 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: end the war and one fell swoop. 183 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 2: So what do I do? 184 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: So he authorized the use of the weapon, and it's 185 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: been controversial ever since then. But if you talk to 186 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: the people who were going to have to go to Japan, 187 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: my father in law was one of them. He was 188 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 1: a battle of the bulge veteran, but he he was 189 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: going to be one of those guys that was going 190 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: to have to go to Japan, and he went to 191 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: his grave never questioning the wisdom of Truman's decision. So 192 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: these technologies open up moral dilemmas. We have seen this 193 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: time and time again in the digital age, with things 194 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: like genetic mutations, stem cells being able to do a 195 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: bootique genetic design where people want a blue eyed child, 196 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: so they can literally go in and manipulate the DNA 197 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: so that the child is born with blue eyes and 198 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: there's a man playing god, And every one of these 199 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: technologies has a practical utility. And then somebody saying, hey, 200 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: what if we could make that hot chick down the 201 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: block and we could get you some nude pictures right 202 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: in your home for nine to ninety nine a month, 203 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: And people don't, oh yeah, give me some of that. 204 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: So that's the world we're living in, all right. Tomorrow 205 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: the John Cobblet Show right here from one to four pm. 206 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: And if you're looking for last minute Christmas gifts, may 207 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: I suggest, humbly suggest a copy of my novel Frank Shadow, 208 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: which is available signed copy, actually personalized shipped for free 209 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,479 Speaker 1: wherever the hell you want it sent at Doug McIntyre 210 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: dot com, or you can get a regular copy at 211 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: Amazon dot com, of course, and at good bookstores like 212 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 1: Romans and Pasadena Pages in Manhattan, Beach Bookstar and Studio City, 213 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 1: David K Books and Woodland Hills where I was on 214 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: Saturday and a whole bunch of you nice people came 215 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: out to say hello, which is lovely. Anyway, go get 216 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 1: a copy of Frank Shadow if you will, and then 217 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: Santa can come to my house. That's how it works, 218 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: because if you don't get my book, there's going to 219 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: be some a lot of tears shed on Christmas morning 220 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: at my house. 221 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 2: Can't even get coal. 222 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: Anyway, all that coming up. So here's the place not 223 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: to visit. Did you see this story that voters the 224 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: Travel magazine issued places not to go in America and 225 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: the San Gabriel National Monument here in southern California was 226 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: on the list because of gangs, trash and graffiti. Now, 227 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: how did we break the out of doors? How did 228 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: we ruin that? I mean, it's amazing how many things 229 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: that we do manage to touch and destroy, like simple 230 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: things like sidewalks absolutely incable in the city of Los 231 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: Angeles of putting sidewalks down and not have them end 232 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: up like you need a sherpa to go down the block. 233 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: You know, good luck if you're a handicapped person or 234 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: you've got a baby stroller and you're walking on a sidewalk. 235 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: I've got a sidewalk over on a street near my 236 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: house in a West Valley that you literally you would 237 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 1: need you need a grappling hook to walk that sidewalk. 238 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:51,599 Speaker 1: And the city says, oh, we'll fix a week of 239 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: fix them. It'll take us eighty eight to one hundred 240 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: years to fix the sidewalks. I'm not making that number up. 241 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: They actually said that a couple of years back. So 242 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: now maybe it's only ninety eight years to get the 243 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: sidewalks fixed. But anyway, apparently the San Gabriel National Forest, 244 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: a national monument, has been spray painted. It's littered with 245 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: trash and gang members and they say, hey, you might 246 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: not want to go there. And I've always been fascinated 247 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: by this of people who go to pretty places and 248 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: ruin it because. 249 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 2: You see it a lot. 250 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: You'll see people will pack, you know, a backpack with 251 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: lunches and you know something to drink, and they'll go 252 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: for a hike, and then they eat lunch at some 253 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: beautiful place, and they'll take all kinds of pictures of 254 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: how beautiful this is, with them smiling with their arms 255 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: around the mountain vista in the background, and then they 256 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: walk down the mountain. They leave all the garbage on 257 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: the mountain trail and. 258 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 2: Say, why would you do that? It's a gay. Well, 259 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 2: it's all about you. The last orange grove. 260 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: In today's Los Angeles Daily News, there's a twelve acre 261 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: orange grove in Woodland Hills, right on the line between 262 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: Woodland Hills and Tarzana, and people will have been gunning 263 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: for it for a while because it's open space. In 264 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: any open space, of course, people want to plow it 265 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: under and build on it, usually townhomes that cost a 266 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: couple million dollars. Well, apparently that's what's planned for the 267 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: last commercial orange grove in the San Fernando Valley. And 268 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: that's kind of a sea change, isn't it. That's kind 269 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: of a turning point. That's the end of an era. 270 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: If it actually happens this time, who knows what will 271 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: end up. It'll end up in court. Everything does, but once. 272 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: That's pretty much all that was in the San Fernando 273 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: Valley was orange groves. It's like you go down to 274 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: the City of Orange in Orange County, beautiful city of Orange, 275 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: where Chapman University is. I used to call it the 276 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: University of Expensive because our youngest went there, the old 277 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: U of E. Whew University of Expensive, beautiful campus. And 278 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: there's the Citrus Exchange building in downtown Orange from when 279 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: that was the economy, when people are growing oranges and lemons, 280 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: et cetera, and that was where you went to make 281 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: your deals. Well, the last commercial orange grove in the 282 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: San Fernando Valley is on the job and block, literally 283 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: the job and block with a developer wants to put 284 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: a bunch of luxury homes there. So we'll see how 285 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: that plays off. Oh, this story, I wanted to get 286 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: to this story. Dana gave this to me just before 287 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: we came on the air. A Russian man flew from 288 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: Europe to Lax. Have you seen this story? Have you 289 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: seen this one? Deborah? Now, Okay, this happened a month ago, 290 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: but we're just learning about it now. A Russian man 291 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: flew from Europe to Lax without a passport, a visa 292 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: or a plane ticket. Apparently Sergey Ojigava, uh Sergey Vladimirovich Ochigava. 293 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: He faces a charge of being a stowaway on an 294 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: aircraft on November fourth that came from Denmark to la 295 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: Now here's the thing. You think of a stowaway, You 296 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: think somehow got into baggage or one of those crazy 297 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: people of grabs under the lane gear and goes up 298 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: into the wing where it's minus sixty degrees. You don't 299 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: usually see those people live. But that's not what this 300 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: guy did. Somehow he got on the plane. The flight 301 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: crew interacted with him. They fed him two meals. At 302 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: one point he was eating some chocolates that were supposed 303 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: to be for the flight crew. He was talking to 304 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: other passengers from his He kept changing seats by the way. 305 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: Nobody seemed to object to him doing that. And here's 306 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,239 Speaker 1: the thing. He didn't get caught until he landed at 307 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: Lax and had to go through passport control customs. And 308 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: he didn't have anything. He had no paperwork. He did 309 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: have an ID, but he had no paperwork of any kind. 310 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: And he couldn't explain how he did it. He didn't 311 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: remember for instance, why he was in Copenhagen. Right, there's 312 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: a there's something going on here that kind of makes 313 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: you want to get him booked for the next show, 314 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: don't you come on? I want to get him on 315 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: the show if we can track him down. Anyway, he 316 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: managed to fly with no ticket of any kind and 317 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 1: have apparently a lovely flight from Copenhagen to Los Angeles. 318 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: All right, let's go get the rest of those heads. 319 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: It is kind of unbelievable. The John Cobbolchow debuts right 320 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: here on KFI. I may live long and prosper, so 321 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure it will conway at four o'clock. 322 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 2: Okay, ladies and gentlemen. 323 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: This is mctarre, by the way, and it's been fun 324 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: hanging out here for a couple of days, getting to 325 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: work with everybody over here playing. This place has a 326 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: lot of paper clips, by the way. This paper clip's 327 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: all over the place. I've made about three hundred thousand 328 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: dollars in paper clips by just scooping him into my bag. 329 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: I'll never buying another one the rest of my life. 330 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: I want to quickly go back. I've brought it up 331 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: a bunch of times. The Elon Musk allowing Alex Jones 332 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: back onto Twitter, and the president of Penn being shoved 333 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: out the door for her failure to take meaningful action 334 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: against the student and faculty members who are basically pro 335 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: Hamas and calling for genocide against the Jews, and the 336 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: issue of free speech and First Amendment writes, especially on 337 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: college campuses. Andrew Sullivan, it's a superb always interesting even 338 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: if you disagree with them. Andrew Sullivan is always worth reading. 339 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: And he wrote a piece about this about President Gay's 340 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: comments before the Congress on the anti semitism on campuses, 341 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: and I want to read you just a couple of 342 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: paragraphs because it really does lay out the absurdity of 343 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: what's going on on elite college campuses. He wrote, quote 344 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: in the hearings, President Gay actually said with a straight 345 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: face that quote, we embrace a commitment to free expression, 346 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 1: even of views that are objectionable, offensive, hateful. 347 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 2: Close quote. 348 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: This is the president whose university mandates that all students 349 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: attend a Title nine training session where they had told 350 00:19:55,160 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: that quote fat phobia and cis hetero sexism forms of violence, 351 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: and that using the wrong pronouns constitutes abuse. This is 352 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 1: the same president who engineered the ouster of a law professor, 353 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: Ronald Sullivan, simply because he represented Harvey Weinstein. This is 354 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: the same president who watched a brilliant and popular professor, 355 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 1: Carol Hooven, be effectively hounded out of her position after 356 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: a public shaming campaign by one of her department's diversity 357 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: inclusion Diversity Diversity DEI enforces Cheez and a mob of 358 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: teaching fellows because Hooven dared to state on television that 359 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: biological sex is binary. This is the president of the university, 360 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,479 Speaker 1: which ranked two hundred and forty eighth out of two 361 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: hundred and forty eight colleges this year on free speech 362 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: and penn was the two hundred and forty seventh. According 363 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: to the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression, Harvard is 364 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: a place where free expression goes to die. So while 365 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: the presidents of these universities talk about how they are, 366 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: they don't punish people free expression, and they encourage free expression, 367 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: have all kinds of mandates and codes that repress free 368 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: speech and the dissemination of ideas. You see, it's not 369 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: a double standard, it's a single standard. It's their standard, period, 370 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: whatever their standard is. And if you are deemed an oppressor, 371 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: then you have no free speech rights. If you are 372 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: deemed as a victim or an oppressed group or individual, 373 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 1: then you have all the power when it comes to 374 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 1: free speech enforcement on college campuses. And this is what 375 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: we're dealing with in the modern world, is especially in 376 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: America where there are First Amendment rights, and we have 377 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: historically had a great latitude on free speech rights, which 378 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 1: is the way it should be. Look, I'm in the 379 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: free speech business both as a newspaper columnist and as 380 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: a talk show host. We encourage the widest latitude of 381 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: the diversity of opinions. But there is a point at 382 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: which your free speech rights end, and that usually is 383 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,719 Speaker 1: the tip of someone's nose, because when your free speech 384 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: leads to somebody being acted upon violent play, and in 385 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: this day and age, if you're on a college campus 386 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: calling for the murder of other people, which is what 387 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: has been going on on, people chant from the river 388 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: to the sea. What they're saying is Issuel can't exist, 389 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: and the people, the Jews living there, have. 390 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 2: To go, Well, you couldn't. You can't imagine. 391 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: Any other group where that could be set on a 392 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: college campus and it would be okay. And yet apparently 393 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: that's the case in many, many colleges and institutions of 394 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: higher learning. So we'll see whether or not the president 395 00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: of Harvard, Claudine Gay, survives with her job. Penn's president 396 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:04,479 Speaker 1: Liz McGill is out, Pamela and Nadal Nadell excuse me 397 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: of American University, the MIT president Sally Kornblooth are all 398 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: feeling the heat after their dismal sort of parsing of 399 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: words before Congress on December fifth. Quick story too, just 400 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 1: in case, just to throw this into the mix, as 401 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: you may have heard, because I know that John and 402 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: Ken talked about this a lot on how it's getting 403 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: harder and harder to get fire insurance in the state 404 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: of California because of the wildfires and vandalism. Frankly, because 405 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 1: we don't prosecute all the homeless people who set fires 406 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 1: on doorsteps of businesses, a lot of small businesses can't 407 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: get fire insurance for their businesses. Well, car insurance equally 408 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: difficult to get, much more expensive and harder and harder 409 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: to get, and the insurance agencies insurance companies are saying 410 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: that one of the reasons are, of course, regulations. 411 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 2: And I love this by the way that the. 412 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: Insurance Department is now in the middle of setting new 413 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: regulations for fire insurance, as well as some of the 414 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: biggest insurance having pulled out of California. That's led to 415 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: skyrocketing premiums and some homeowners have said that they can't 416 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 1: afford so Governor Newsom issued an executive order in September 417 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 1: directing the Insurance Commission of Ricardo Laara to try to 418 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: solve the problem. I love that concept that you could 419 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: issue an executive order say hey, try to fix this. Well, 420 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: it's his job, but you're going to issue an executive 421 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 1: order to say try to fix this, and thereby, I 422 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: guess Gavinusic would say, look what I did. I issued 423 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: an executive order. But apparently it is again. California is 424 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 1: one of only four states that requires insurance to sell 425 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: insurance to quote unquote good drivers, and is the only 426 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: state that requires insurance to offer a good driver twenty 427 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: percent discount. And the insurance companies obviously said, you're one 428 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: of only four. You got a lot of people driving, 429 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: and you define good driving by the ways the past 430 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: three years have had no more than one point on 431 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: their record within that period, and you qualify as a 432 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,239 Speaker 1: good driver in the state of California, which makes it 433 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: more expensive. Tomorrow, the John Cobbold Show debut is right 434 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 1: here at KF I am six forty and at four 435 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: o'clock climbing off of his deathbed. Thank you getting over 436 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: the box or the all or whatever it was you 437 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: had this time. 438 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 3: I think I tick tac teeth. 439 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 2: You know what that is? No, I don't. 440 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an Irish thing. Too much inbreeding going out? 441 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 2: Oh man, how did I not have that? Yeah? It 442 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 2: wasted mother. 443 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 3: No, I was sick the first day on Wednesday, and 444 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 3: then Thursday and Friday we're a vacation day. 445 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 2: So you just didn't well, you couldn't be sick on vacation. 446 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 2: Now I got hit the track, you know. 447 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: I just heard the I just heard the promo where 448 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: you're talking about the last time you played golf you 449 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: had in the bucket of golf balls and you left 450 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: the golf club. 451 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 2: I was in the car with you. That's absolutely very full. 452 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, it was. 453 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 3: It was up and were we're playing casino. It was well, no, 454 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,959 Speaker 3: wasn't Balboa. It was it was actually in west Lake. 455 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 3: Murby went out to Westlake. We rented a cart and 456 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 3: then Michael O'Connell flipped the cart and we got all 457 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 3: got in trouble for that. If it's on the way 458 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 3: home from there, right as we're passing through in Sino. 459 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 3: You're right though, yes, right at Balboa, right when you 460 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 3: remember that you didn't have your golf I remember that 461 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 3: my golf cups were left of the course. 462 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 2: I never slowed down. 463 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody else you would go back and get him 464 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: and said no, and you never went back to. 465 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 2: Somebody else's problem. 466 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:22,919 Speaker 3: Now, But it's a sport for guys who like punishment, 467 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 3: you know, because you're you're you're good only about one 468 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 3: to two percent of the time. 469 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 2: It's a stupid game. 470 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: It's the object of the game is to play it 471 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: as little as possible. Like, for instance, if you shoot 472 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: a sixty three, you've had an amazing round. If you 473 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: shoot one hundred and eight, right, you stink. But the 474 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 1: guy who shot sixty three played less. 475 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 2: Golf, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 476 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: So if you play zero, you and I now today 477 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: are fantastic golfers. 478 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 3: Yeah we got a zero. I'm not a big fan 479 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 3: of the outdoors either, as. 480 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 2: You can see. 481 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm not a great indoors. 482 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 2: That complexion is you know. 483 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: The Outdoors is online, right, Yeah, I don't download it 484 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 1: anything Outdoors you can down. 485 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 3: That's exactly right. Hey, your book signing with Saturday. 486 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: I have it one on Saturday. You have a big turnout, huge, 487 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: there's people still in line. 488 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 2: Okay. 489 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 3: By the way, I'm not going to read it because 490 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't read a lot. 491 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 2: You don't read that. 492 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 3: Somebody asked me to write a book, and I go 493 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 3: write it. 494 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 2: I don't even read them. 495 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 1: Well, that's why you work at kfive because the station 496 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: only has three letters. 497 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. 498 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 3: But Frank's secret, right, Frank Show Frank Shadow. But Frank 499 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 3: has a secret. There's a secret in the book. 500 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 2: Correct? What is it? I can't tell you. 501 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 3: Oh my god. You know Shannon Farren won't tell me either. 502 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 3: She read the book and she won't tell me. 503 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 2: And I'll tell you off the air. You will. And 504 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 2: you know why I can tell you off the air 505 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 2: because you won't remember. 506 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 3: That's correct, man. 507 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 1: I remember it, so it'll be totally saying what are 508 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: you doing today? By the way, you're gonna do the 509 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 1: radio show. 510 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 2: We got the book? Oh you got the book? 511 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 3: There Okay, I'll look at you, buddy. Yeah, that's a classic. 512 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 3: You sell a lot of them on Saturday. 513 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 2: Yeah we did, we did. Okay, Yeah, you didn't leave 514 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 2: early and pissed off? No, I stayed. I stayed to 515 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 2: the bitter end. But a few word there is bitter. 516 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 3: Have you left early and been pissed at a book seven? No? 517 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 2: I have not. 518 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,199 Speaker 1: Although wait a second, I did leave early once and 519 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 1: I realized I shouldn't have because I got like angry 520 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: emails came like so now I realized whatever time that was. 521 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 3: The Barnes and Noble and Burbank, because I showed up, 522 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 3: oh no, and like you know, quarter to four, and 523 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 3: he is like he's gone. He let a couple of 524 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 3: sign books here, talk right, we've got that. I don't 525 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 3: know what we got. We got these. 526 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: Give me the thing. I know he doesn't want to read. 527 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: Let me, let me do it from him. Give me 528 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 1: the thing. This is what you're doing, we're doing. Okay, 529 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: you got some giveaways two tickets no at the same 530 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: and Sino gas station. They hit three hundred and ninety 531 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: five millions, So you got that, guest. 532 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 3: Okay, but you know what, I have a theory on 533 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 3: that you know, you can play that ticket twice. You 534 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 3: just have to check the wrong box and it'll spit 535 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 3: it out twice. So that's what happened. There's no way 536 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 3: a guy picked There's no way two different guys picked 537 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 3: the same number at the gas station. 538 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: Here's another memorable Tim Conway Junior scene from our past. 539 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: I remember when I did that liquor store over on 540 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: came Rio. We had gone in to buy whatever. Oh yeah, yeah, 541 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: And I go out to the car and you wouldn't 542 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: come out of the store, and I'm waiting. 543 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 2: I'm waiting, I'm waiting. 544 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: I go back into the store, and honest to god, people, 545 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: this is what he's saying. He's talking to the guy 546 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: behind the counter, and he's saying, Hey, if you guys 547 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: sold a winning line, but the guy who you sold 548 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: it to doesn't have the ticket, and would you remember 549 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: that you so? 550 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 2: Could you could you prove that you sold the ticket? 551 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: I go, are you actually trying to talk this guy 552 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: into convincing him that he sold you a winning lottery 553 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: ticket that you don't have. 554 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 3: You remember that day I showed up at your house 555 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 3: and I go, buddy, what is your signetare? Oh? 556 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I watch you what your handwriting look at. Yeah, 557 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 2: that's there's never any good news, nothing lead. 558 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 3: Speaking of liquor stores, I was at Seal Beach. Guy 559 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 3: named Joe and the liquor store in Seal Beach, And 560 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 3: for three years, every day I went down and played 561 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 3: the numbers there. But they're they're like the the Bingo numbers. 562 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 3: They come out every twenty minutes or so, you know. 563 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 3: They the powerball, not the power bawl, whatever those things 564 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 3: are called. And for three years, I'm playing my birthdate, 565 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 3: you know. And then he's playing his numbers, and I said, 566 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 3: why don't we combine him for a six number card, 567 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 3: maybe we can hit. So he gives me his three numbers. 568 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 3: They're exactly my three numbers. It's his birthday. It is 569 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,959 Speaker 3: exactly my birthday. Two idiots for three years played our 570 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 3: birthdays and didn't know it, and. 571 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 2: Did same numbers and didn't win. 572 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 3: Yes, we always played the same numbers and didn't win. 573 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 3: God almighty, what what are the odds of that? 574 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 2: Well, the odds of that are pretty high. 575 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 3: Yes, all right, And Sears is opening up in Burbank. 576 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 2: Did you see that? Yeah, story too, Yes, I don't know. 577 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 2: The last bed are they going to be the last tub, 578 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 2: the last bed. Are they going to bring back Craftsman 579 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 2: bras or whatever it is? 580 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 3: That's right, Craftsmen's a great tool now that you know 581 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 3: they sold it. 582 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 2: To low that right, Yes, they still got Ken Moore though, 583 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 2: that's right. Yeah, Ed Williams fishing boat. 584 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 3: I love Sears. It's where America shopped. 585 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 2: You know. 586 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,959 Speaker 1: It had Sears, had the table the gift of left 587 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: resort table when you were desperate y Christmas gifts. 588 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 2: They had that table by the door. 589 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: They had now clippers and emery boards and things like that, 590 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: and it was stuff that nobody wants gloves and you 591 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: would and if you received it, you clearly are a 592 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: person that nobody cares about it. 593 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 3: I remember going to that table and I saw a 594 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 3: glove not too just what well, listen, if you tease, 595 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 3: we'd love to just one glove deep going, buddy, Thanks 596 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 3: for filling in. Man, you sound great on the air. 597 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: Happy to be here, all right, ladies and gentlemen, mister 598 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: dog ding dog. Okay, and let's go to the twenty 599 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: four hour kf I newsroom, and here's Michael Krazer