Speaker 1: From the King of Sports Books comes the Key Sports
Speaker 1: podcast Unleashed, presented by the MGM. Here's your host, Jerry
Speaker 1: Ferrara and Olivia Harland Decker. Welcome to Unleashed. Life without
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and Football starts right now. Olivia Harland Decker,
Speaker 1: Jerry Ferrara, We are back from Arizona where we had
Speaker 1: a pretty damn good time. What don't you say, Jerry,
Speaker 1: It was awesome. I didn't want it to end because
Speaker 1: then you go back to the reality of also knowing
Speaker 1: that this is the last game of the season, and
Speaker 1: I want to crawl into a moment of darkness and
Speaker 1: retreat now on Sundays, though only Sundays, because I don't
Speaker 1: know what else to do with myself now that football
Speaker 1: has gone. You know there's someone else who might join
Speaker 1: you in this darkness retreat. Literally, as those out there
Speaker 1: are listening to this, Aaron Rodgers is in some dark
Speaker 1: hole which is really dismal. So Darry I heard he
Speaker 1: might film it, and as our resident, like Hollywood guy,
Speaker 1: do you think that would be must watch TV? First
Speaker 1: of all, for me, it would be. But doesn't that
Speaker 1: contradict everything you're doing. You're supposed to be in darkness
Speaker 1: with no phones, and like they're gonna have to put
Speaker 1: lights up and to film it. Otherwise it's gonna be
Speaker 1: like those old cartoons when cartoon characters would close their
Speaker 1: eyes in the dark and open them and you only
Speaker 1: see the eyes, Like we're not gonna see anything. So
Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna happen. That's probably a rumor,
Speaker 1: but I would definitely watch it for sure. Well, the
Speaker 1: fact that he dangled it out there, I think he
Speaker 1: already probably has a deal with someone to film this.
Speaker 1: But I was thinking too, you and I both do
Speaker 1: a lot of on camera work, and you know that
Speaker 1: red light is blinking there, even if they don't have
Speaker 1: a flash or whatever, like if they have it in
Speaker 1: night vision, you know that red light in that cameras blinking.
Speaker 1: And he's like probably miked up. I mean, the whole
Speaker 1: thing does seem to contradict the purpose. So I'm not
Speaker 1: not really I still wouldn't want to do that myself,
Speaker 1: even knowing that there's civilization with me and a camera
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. But look, I would definitely watch it,
Speaker 1: but I think it takes away from what he's trying
Speaker 1: to do. Maybe just recap it can't you just recap
Speaker 1: it on the podcast and I'd listen to that, just
Speaker 1: recap us what you went through. He's only getting two
Speaker 1: meals a day. That's where he lost me as well,
Speaker 1: Like I have three snacks a day. Might I say too,
Speaker 1: I'm very excited to talk to your dad. We've talked
Speaker 1: about your dad this season because you know, we got
Speaker 1: the whole Kevin Garnett story with the big ticket nickname
Speaker 1: and all that, which was awesome. But also acting has
Speaker 1: always been my dream, but more of a dream I
Speaker 1: realized when I was like a teen, But my childhood
Speaker 1: dream was to do exactly what your father's done for
Speaker 1: his entire career. That was my childhood. Yes, oh you
Speaker 1: know it's not too late. Uh not too late, uh no,
Speaker 1: but definitely a little late to chase new dreams that
Speaker 1: I probably would get paid four cents for while I'm
Speaker 1: doing a local high school game, you know, kind of
Speaker 1: breaking myself in so but yeah, I just broadcast and
Speaker 1: and calling games and and the stuff that he's done
Speaker 1: in his career. That's what I wanted to do when
Speaker 1: I was a kid. So I'm very excited to have
Speaker 1: him on. Well, like I mentioned, he just did the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I got to see him in Phoenix. That
Speaker 1: was really fun. You just missed him. If you had
Speaker 1: stayed a couple of days later, we could have all
Speaker 1: hung out. But now talk about a quick turnaround. He's
Speaker 1: doing the NBA All Star Game this weekend on T
Speaker 1: n T. He is. He is a renaissance man. Really,
Speaker 1: he's so busy. But yeah, obviously a lot to talk
Speaker 1: with him about the Super Bowl. I can't wait, and
Speaker 1: then he heads to Utah, so that'll be fun. You
Speaker 1: can talk to him about Team Lebron, First Team Janice,
Speaker 1: and the new draft format of the All Star Game,
Speaker 1: which I think is pretty cool, MVP odds, and what
Speaker 1: to look for in the second half of the NBA season,
Speaker 1: including the new look Sons with Katie. We didn't really
Speaker 1: get to talk about this since, but what's your first
Speaker 1: reaction to some of the trades we saw? You know,
Speaker 1: it was so weird because and you and I we
Speaker 1: we we had the chance we talked about in a
Speaker 1: live show. We had the chance to play a little goal, right.
Speaker 1: I actually snuck away while we were in Arizona to
Speaker 1: play another couple of holes with my buddy John just
Speaker 1: Stromski and I took the shuttle back from the golf
Speaker 1: course to the hotel. Was only a few miles and
Speaker 1: the woman driving we had it was a it's a
Speaker 1: ten minute drive. We had a ten minute sons conversation,
Speaker 1: like in depth about you know, she was going deep
Speaker 1: about what the Suns needed to do. This is obviously
Speaker 1: before the trade. And then I end up leaving that
Speaker 1: night and when I landed back in Ohio and I
Speaker 1: raced home, my kids are already asleep and I'm just
Speaker 1: in bed with my phone quiet, and then boom, the
Speaker 1: trade broke, like as because I landed at midnight and
Speaker 1: the trade broke at night. So I was just thinking
Speaker 1: about that woman. I'm like, oh my gosh, she's got
Speaker 1: to be awake freaking out that the Suns have Katie.
Speaker 1: What a trade deadline? Just when I was saying, oh,
Speaker 1: maybe the NFL has caught up to all the offseason
Speaker 1: transactional stuff. No, the NBA did the hold my beer
Speaker 1: because that was a crazy trade deadline. It really was.
Speaker 1: It felt like any time, especially when you're in an
Speaker 1: airport and you walk by a TV, you know, and
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, WHOA Like I feel like they're kept
Speaker 1: being news and talk about a weird week for news
Speaker 1: and other sports to come out because there's so much
Speaker 1: focus on the Super Bowl. But I think pretty well received.
Speaker 1: I think people are excited. Yeah, and look, I already
Speaker 1: was having these debates with friends and group chats when
Speaker 1: Kyrie got traded to Dallas, Like, I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: be a Kyrie apologist, Like whatever, whatever you think of
Speaker 1: everyone's tied to their opinion. As a basketball player on
Speaker 1: the court, you have to respect what the guy could do.
Speaker 1: I just look at it, like, there's no way you
Speaker 1: could just absolve the Nets organization and all this right, Like,
Speaker 1: there's just all right, get you could say Kyrie tank
Speaker 1: the team and Katie's so wishy washy about where he
Speaker 1: wants to be and James Harden doesn't work. But fine, agree,
Speaker 1: there is no way the organization doesn't get some of
Speaker 1: the blame for having those three and you know they
Speaker 1: only played thirteen games together and not making it work.
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Yeah, there's a there's something foulk I
Speaker 1: think who's left through the smoke in the ashes? Ben
Speaker 1: Simmons and look and a lot of really good wings
Speaker 1: that are you know, the Knicks finally beat the nets
Speaker 1: for the first time in five years the other night.
Speaker 1: It feels like and then nets are fun. When you
Speaker 1: see every players like six eight and can shoot threes,
Speaker 1: it's pretty fun. Yeah, there might be something there. Have
Speaker 1: you ever been to an All Star Game? No? And
Speaker 1: I almost went last year because it was in Cleveland,
Speaker 1: But of course when it was in Cleveland last year,
Speaker 1: I had to go to l A. I've just never been.
Speaker 1: The only thing I ever went in l at the
Speaker 1: only thing I had the pleasure of doing. I did
Speaker 1: play in the Celebrity Game one year in l A.
Speaker 1: So I was there for that part, but didn't go
Speaker 1: to any of the other festivities. It's such a tough
Speaker 1: thing for me because I enjoy it so much on television.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I should have went when I was in
Speaker 1: l A. I should have took on. I should have
Speaker 1: took on more. No, I've never been to any of it.
Speaker 1: You you must have been to so much of it, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean growing up we went every year is forever.
Speaker 1: My dad just did the Saturday Night, which I kind
Speaker 1: of think is the better. It's awesome, of course, honest.
Speaker 1: And now since Marv Albert has retired, my dad now
Speaker 1: does the Sunday Night game, and I don't know which
Speaker 1: one he prefers. We can ask him, but I do
Speaker 1: know he got to kick out of doing the dunk
Speaker 1: contest and the views on that I think are way
Speaker 1: higher than the All Star Game. How many uh, like
Speaker 1: do you know off the top of your head when
Speaker 1: he started with the dunk contest, like I'm it was,
Speaker 1: was he like the Vince Carter one? Did he call
Speaker 1: that one? So? Yeah, I know he had done it
Speaker 1: a long time. Yeah, so we saw some of the
Speaker 1: legendary when the dunk contest was the dunk honestly, not
Speaker 1: a bad time to get out if I'm your dad,
Speaker 1: because the dunk contest, I have ideas of how to
Speaker 1: fix it, but it's a little rough. It's a little rough.
Speaker 1: Definitely asked him his opinion on that, and you pitch
Speaker 1: him your idea. Maybe he can shoot that one up
Speaker 1: the ladder. No. I remember as a kid, we'd always
Speaker 1: go and I have pictures of myself like awkward years,
Speaker 1: like kind of gap tooth and bangs, and I've horrible
Speaker 1: pictures of my evolution at various Solid Star games. But
Speaker 1: we always got to like see celebrities because they're always courtside,
Speaker 1: and I texted my family and I said, everyone, shoot
Speaker 1: me your best like All Star Game celebrity story because
Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember this for the podcast because I
Speaker 1: knew we were gonna talk about it today. And some
Speaker 1: of the responses, I mean, I was laughing out loud.
Speaker 1: One was from my sister, she said, uh, when I
Speaker 1: was filling up the bucket of ice in the hotel
Speaker 1: with Tiger Woods. One was when I went to the
Speaker 1: bathroom with Brittany Murphy rest in Peace and sat next
Speaker 1: to Ashton Kutcher, Jack Nicholson. We always got to see. Um.
Speaker 1: What else when Charles Barkley told my sister's then fiance
Speaker 1: he was going to hire someone to kill him if
Speaker 1: he heard her. Um, my other sister, when in Chicago,
Speaker 1: was sitting right behind the basket when Derrick Rose broke
Speaker 1: his leg. Oh gosh. Um, Benny the Bull, Chicago's mascot,
Speaker 1: once picked up my sister, through him, over her, over
Speaker 1: his shoulder and ran around the court. And this is
Speaker 1: a very shy sister, so very more to I mean,
Speaker 1: the All Star Game has always kind of been our
Speaker 1: family's like thing. And believe me, going to school that Monday,
Speaker 1: probably skipping Monday, going Tuesday. Um, we always had a
Speaker 1: lot of stories. So I love the NBA All Star Game.
Speaker 1: It's nostalgic. Okay, before we tie a beaut on the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and we're gonna break it down a little bit.
Speaker 1: I've got to know your bets because we talked so
Speaker 1: much about it on the show last week. So what hit?
Speaker 1: What did you actually end up playing? Nothing hit? For
Speaker 1: me when I say nothing, absolutely nothing hit because you
Speaker 1: had the Eagles. I told you I had the Eagles
Speaker 1: tied to every Oh. I did hit the oh. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I hit the over over So I mean, but Dad
Speaker 1: did not recoup enough of my losses. I did the
Speaker 1: Hassan Reddick bet. I just wish I would have known
Speaker 1: I didn't have a single sack. I'm not saying I
Speaker 1: would have changed any of my bets. But the biggest
Speaker 1: information for a better that anyone could have gotten after
Speaker 1: Mahomes is like all right, his ankles superhuman was the
Speaker 1: fact that it's going to be one of the worst
Speaker 1: grass surfaces ever played on in the history of the
Speaker 1: Super Bowls. That would have maybe influenced my that a
Speaker 1: little bit, because the Eagles, to me are a motion
Speaker 1: driven misdirection kind of team. But yeah, that stood out
Speaker 1: for me when I like Hassan red it was the
Speaker 1: worst field he's ever played on. Now from the losing team,
Speaker 1: that's easy to say. Of course, no chief they said
Speaker 1: it was the worst field. But oddly enough, I remember
Speaker 1: the report like several Eagles were changing their cleats. No
Speaker 1: Chiefs changed their cleats, which which was surprising. Do you
Speaker 1: have a conspiracy theory you want to air out? No
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory, I just that would have been very pertinent information.
Speaker 1: But no, I lost. I lost everything. But the big
Speaker 1: disappointment was I had my long shot lotto ticket parlay
Speaker 1: right with a bunch of and I had the first
Speaker 1: leg of it was Ken gain Well. First touchdown of
Speaker 1: the game I had and he you know, the elbow
Speaker 1: down on the inch line. I had the gain Well,
Speaker 1: I had the Tony touchdown. I had a Kelsey touchdown
Speaker 1: and it wouldn't have hit anyway because I think I
Speaker 1: still the last leg was Dalla got it to score.
Speaker 1: But oh my gosh, what I have been on pins
Speaker 1: and kneel. It was like some ridiculous fifty to win,
Speaker 1: like fourteen grand Oh gosh, And I mean for a
Speaker 1: long shot. You almost got it. How did you do?
Speaker 1: I did really well. We had the Chiefs everywhere. I
Speaker 1: don't really no, no, it gets better. I had Eagles
Speaker 1: up at halftime, Chiefs win. That was one. I had
Speaker 1: Chief's money line. And the problematic part is I placed
Speaker 1: my bet when I was in Arizona knowing that I
Speaker 1: couldn't cash out, you know once I got to London
Speaker 1: because I left before the game. I left Saturday before
Speaker 1: the game Sunday, so I can't cash out until I
Speaker 1: get back in the States. Even though I placed it
Speaker 1: on the bed MGM map in Arizona. I can't do
Speaker 1: anything until I get back in the States, which isn't
Speaker 1: over a month. I can't remember what my parlay. Oh,
Speaker 1: you can't even look. You can't look. I can't see it.
Speaker 1: It won't let me log in. I know two of
Speaker 1: them hit, though, and I did three legs, and I
Speaker 1: cannot remember the third leg. One was Kelsey anytime touchdown
Speaker 1: and one was Hurts over ten and a half rushing attempt.
Speaker 1: So both hit. Yeah, And I'm texting my brother in
Speaker 1: law's I know, I was showing him. I was all
Speaker 1: proud and like, how do you like my proleg and
Speaker 1: I'm texting him, do you remember what my third leg?
Speaker 1: But he doesn't remember. So I'm telling you when I
Speaker 1: touched down in the States, I'm firing up the app
Speaker 1: and I'm either going to be celebrating or not because
Speaker 1: I'm worried I took the game under because I was
Speaker 1: talking about that all week. Remember, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: the game under. You were talking under, but the over
Speaker 1: became such the popular beat. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: would have done that, but I don't know. I'm pretty
Speaker 1: stupid good on you because that's the narrative of the game,
Speaker 1: which we did discuss even with Peter in the live show.
Speaker 1: Eagles first half was the bat Really, you could take
Speaker 1: Eagles for the game. It's easy to say now, but
Speaker 1: the Eagles you called Eagles first half Mahomes and the
Speaker 1: Chiefs firing back in the second half, and that was
Speaker 1: that was the story of the game. So I think,
Speaker 1: what is so brilliant about Patrick Mahomes Despite the injury
Speaker 1: he played less than nine minutes in the first half,
Speaker 1: and then in the second half. He scored on every
Speaker 1: second half possession, just one in completion which was a throwaway,
Speaker 1: and all in all, he had thirty eight points scored
Speaker 1: in twenty four minutes on the field. Thirty eight points
Speaker 1: in twenty four minutes on the field. I mean, I
Speaker 1: was so concerned. I went to bed at halftime because
Speaker 1: it was two am in London. I had just gotten
Speaker 1: back here and all that we were tired. We watched
Speaker 1: Rihanna and called it a day and I was like, man,
Speaker 1: this doesn't look good. Chiefs are gonna lose. The Eagles
Speaker 1: look hot. Patrick Mahomes are keeping him out the field.
Speaker 1: And then I woke up, but I roll over. My
Speaker 1: husband was up before me, and I said, what happened?
Speaker 1: He said, Chiefs one jeeves. We were so excited. It's
Speaker 1: a weird way to watch a game. But I think
Speaker 1: as everyone's so mad about the holding call, I think
Speaker 1: they need to be a little bit more realistic. As
Speaker 1: good as the Eagles looked, and you can certainly agree
Speaker 1: that those are the two best teams in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and it was a perfect matchup that Hurts had a
Speaker 1: fumble that was returned for a touchdown. They had a
Speaker 1: their run game which was vaunted. Everyone all season was
Speaker 1: all about their run game. Was I mean, they had
Speaker 1: a huge special teams gaff and then the holding call.
Speaker 1: That's not why they lost the game. So I'm kind
Speaker 1: of sick of people saying that. And Sirianni even to
Speaker 1: his credits, said that. To post game he said, you know,
Speaker 1: talk right, you could talk about that, but he's like,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of reasons why we didn't win this game.
Speaker 1: First half went according to plan. But yes, when you
Speaker 1: look at the mistakes Eagles mistakes, they had two which
Speaker 1: led to touchdowns. The Chiefs really only had one mistake.
Speaker 1: It was a missed field goal, which we all knew
Speaker 1: was gonna happen, especially me. We all knew there was
Speaker 1: a joint that was going to happen. So that was
Speaker 1: really the only Chiefs misfire. Both defenses did not look
Speaker 1: good at all, but the Eagles defense bottom lot just
Speaker 1: did nothing. Zero. So when you talk about the reasons
Speaker 1: why the Chiefs, obviously Mahomes gets so much of the cred,
Speaker 1: but you have to talk about the Chief's offensive line,
Speaker 1: you have to talk about Eric b Enemy and Andy
Speaker 1: Reid in the play calling because it was I mean,
Speaker 1: the Eagles didn't even have a chance to sack Mahomes.
Speaker 1: That ball is coming out so quick, and the and
Speaker 1: the run game. They were able to run the game
Speaker 1: and the Eagles couldn't run the ball and made two mistakes. Now,
Speaker 1: as far as the holding penalty and respect to Bradberry,
Speaker 1: and Bradbery is getting a lot of respect for owning
Speaker 1: it and not getting into like a twitter bat. But
Speaker 1: as far as the call itself, I've gotten into arguments
Speaker 1: with Bree about this in the exact same way that
Speaker 1: the fans are with the refs. Okay, for instance, Bree
Speaker 1: could say something to me, you know you've been working
Speaker 1: a lot. You know it could really be helpful, is
Speaker 1: if you maybe just uh, can you cook more dinners?
Speaker 1: That would be really helpful for me. Okay, so I
Speaker 1: go cook a great dinner, all this stuff. She was
Speaker 1: outside with the kids, and then she'll say, you know,
Speaker 1: you really shouldn't have cooked so long. It was a
Speaker 1: beautiful day outside and should have came out. What I'm
Speaker 1: getting at is you can't say you gotta call. You
Speaker 1: can't call that in the Super Bowl in that moment.
Speaker 1: But then then the Giants are playing the Commanders and
Speaker 1: what was a playoff game there was a non call,
Speaker 1: and fans are saying, you can't know what you're not
Speaker 1: gonna call it because it's the end of the game.
Speaker 1: You can't have it both ways. I have no problems
Speaker 1: with the call. It just was a bummer that that's
Speaker 1: how the game ended. It just was am I I agree,
Speaker 1: And I think what pisses me off is when people say, oh,
Speaker 1: come on, let him play. It's the final minutes of
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. When you say let him play, that
Speaker 1: only favors one side. And I agree, it would have
Speaker 1: been great to see the ball in Jalen Hurts hands
Speaker 1: one more time. I agree, it felt like the Divisional
Speaker 1: round game last year Bill's Chiefs that you would have
Speaker 1: loved to see Josh Allen with another chance, but it
Speaker 1: didn't end up that way. Coin toss, remember. But I
Speaker 1: feel like when people are like, just let him play,
Speaker 1: it's the Super Bowl, let him play, It's like, that's
Speaker 1: not the rule and the rule and it's not situational refee.
Speaker 1: And you know, Olson, I think made a great observation
Speaker 1: early in the first half where there was a few
Speaker 1: I think there was one or to delay a game
Speaker 1: penalties on the Eagles where they did not opt to
Speaker 1: take the time out, and Olson astute Lee said, you know,
Speaker 1: clearly like the time outs mean more to Serianny than
Speaker 1: the holding place because they're able to move the ball fine.
Speaker 1: But there was another delay. There was another delay of
Speaker 1: game situation and they had to call a time out,
Speaker 1: and that was a time out that they definitely could
Speaker 1: have used when basically when they were kneeling on the
Speaker 1: ball for the field goal. So so many things cost
Speaker 1: them the game. And bottom line is the Chiefs from
Speaker 1: start to finish played a better game on both sides
Speaker 1: of the ball, and they deserve to win that game.
Speaker 1: Call or no call. So what do you think about this,
Speaker 1: because now I've seen this come out. Is Bill Belichick
Speaker 1: he would always knowing what color jerseys his opponent was wearing,
Speaker 1: He'd have his receivers were the same color gloves. Have
Speaker 1: you heard this? So the Chiefs were wearing white, Eagles
Speaker 1: were wearing black gloves, which just makes everything that much
Speaker 1: more noticeable. And I've seen it come out now that
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick always told his defenders where white gloves if
Speaker 1: your opponents were in a white jersey, And for the
Speaker 1: sake of you might even if you get one call
Speaker 1: from it, I guess they don't call you on one.
Speaker 1: But I think that's pretty interesting and something that was overlooked,
Speaker 1: and if Bill Belichick would do it, I don't think
Speaker 1: it's I don't think it's crazy. I would do anything
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick would do. But yeah, I was certainly disappointed, like, wow,
Speaker 1: this is how the game is gonna end. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I just the Chiefs. Where was Miles Sanders? Seriously? Where
Speaker 1: was Miles Sanders? Gain Well? And you didn't you don't
Speaker 1: have any bets on his over I did. No, That's
Speaker 1: why I'm asking where where was Miles Sanders? You know
Speaker 1: Gainwell five? You have a couple of passes here there
Speaker 1: Almost I would be touchdown. But the Eagles are a
Speaker 1: running team. Okay, last thing I think we could wrap up.
Speaker 1: They're gonna change this fourth and short quarterback sneak role
Speaker 1: right where you could rugby. It's so dangerous. It's so dangerous.
Speaker 1: It's also a quarterback is going to break his neck
Speaker 1: or break his back. Like it's not gonna end. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's a that's just a dumb play.
Speaker 1: I get it. Stop it. If you can't stop it,
Speaker 1: it's a dumb play. One more thing that I think
Speaker 1: is worth mentioning is Jacksonville played the Eagles. Recently, and
Speaker 1: there were a couple of plays that the chief seemed
Speaker 1: to have stolen from the Jaguars. Head coach with Jaguars
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson, close close friend to Andy Reid fired by
Speaker 1: the Eagles. You got to think that at some point
Speaker 1: in the last two weeks someone picked up the phone
Speaker 1: and said, yo, Andy, look at where the Eagles defense
Speaker 1: is going to fake you out here? And they took
Speaker 1: advantage on the same exact play. No proof, I have
Speaker 1: no proof. I'm just saying, no, you do have proof,
Speaker 1: because didn't didn't The Eagles have Fangio working on helping
Speaker 1: them with a defensive plane against the Chiefs when he's
Speaker 1: not not affiliated with the team. That's enough proof for
Speaker 1: me to say. Everyone's talking super Bowl, yes, like and
Speaker 1: a coach like Andy Reid who probably has a lot
Speaker 1: of friends, a lot of friends. No one dislikes Andy. Well,
Speaker 1: I think in general, great super Bowl. We've got to
Speaker 1: talk about Rihanna a little bit because that is what
Speaker 1: everyone was talking about. And then I didn't know this
Speaker 1: until this week, but did you know that the halftime
Speaker 1: performer isn't paid a single penny? The NFL doesn't pay them.
Speaker 1: In fact, sometimes they pay for their own theatric, staging, lighting,
Speaker 1: cup dancers, all of it. They pay for it themselves
Speaker 1: because it ends up like multiplying in dividends, usually in
Speaker 1: merch or ticket sales or music sales or whatever. In fact,
Speaker 1: with Rihanna, you know her little makeup touch up that
Speaker 1: drove fenty beauty sales up over eight and as if
Speaker 1: she didn't have a large enough following, she gained one
Speaker 1: point five million Instagram followers in twenty four hours, three
Speaker 1: million overall. I don't know how many she has, but
Speaker 1: she gained three million Instagram followers since her Super Bowl performance.
Speaker 1: In her music sales skyrocketed, and she also did a
Speaker 1: multimillion dollar deal with Apple, the sponsor of the halftime show,
Speaker 1: to document the whole process. So the money Rihanna made
Speaker 1: from this what fifteen minutes is out of this world.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed the halftime show, yeah, Brie and I watched it.
Speaker 1: Love Rihanna. Awesome. I just had one thought. I know
Speaker 1: everybody was freaky as she pregnant. She wasn't, like, first
Speaker 1: of all, she'll tell us when she wants to tell us,
Speaker 1: like relax, But I did start thinking if she was pregnant,
Speaker 1: and you know confirmed, it was confirmed later. I didn't
Speaker 1: love her floating on that stage. Yes, I was like,
Speaker 1: get her down. I was nervous. I was nervous. I
Speaker 1: was that thing was wobbly. I was nervous. Now you
Speaker 1: did see there was like almost a pole that she
Speaker 1: was attached to, and then one of the backup dancers
Speaker 1: did come and so she was attached to something fixed
Speaker 1: on it. But still I'm still very nervous. I didn't
Speaker 1: love it when she was, you know, sixty ft suspended
Speaker 1: in the air. I just I was. I found myself nervous.
Speaker 1: But it was fun. It was fun show. It was
Speaker 1: fun show. Agreed. It was the most watched Super Bowl
Speaker 1: in six years, with million viewers. It was the third
Speaker 1: most watch TV show ever, obviously behind Entourage, which we
Speaker 1: will talk about later the show. Because I have been watching,
Speaker 1: I have been watching. Okay, Well, the Chiefs are already
Speaker 1: the favorite to win it all again next year at
Speaker 1: plus six hundred, Bengals right behind them at plus eight fifty. Honestly,
Speaker 1: Bengals Chiefs, I think is going to be our big
Speaker 1: matchup and big rivalry for the next handful of years,
Speaker 1: and I'm really looking forward to and then the bills. Look,
Speaker 1: it's a f C. The top three teams bills are
Speaker 1: plus nine hundred. But speaking of the Chiefs, I think
Speaker 1: it's only right that we give the final word to
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey. He said no one believed in the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: and for sure no one on the Fox pregame show did.
Speaker 1: But I believed in the Chiefs, and I also believe
Speaker 1: you're getting our audible of the week. Looks man one
Speaker 1: are y'all and said the Jeans are gonna take it
Speaker 1: home this year. Not a single one feel that feeling.
Speaker 1: And on top of that, next time the Chiefs say something,
Speaker 1: what's some respect on it? All? Right? Obviously the Kelsey
Speaker 1: story was so amazing, so it's nice to put a
Speaker 1: bow on that one and give the final word to Travis.
Speaker 1: But now it's time for us to have the final word,
Speaker 1: and that means it's time to unleak. It's time to unleaf. So,
Speaker 1: as someone who spent a lot of time on football sidelines,
Speaker 1: something I always look at pregames, especially in a wet game,
Speaker 1: rainy game, snowy game, are the receivers cleats. Usually that's
Speaker 1: why I pay the most attention to and receivers, gloves, quarterbacks, cleets,
Speaker 1: everything because I always want to see if they're going
Speaker 1: to make a shift after they warm up. And as
Speaker 1: we mentioned earlier, a lot of the Eagles players did.
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts switched his whole shoe at halftime. And if
Speaker 1: you don't know, the cleats on the shoe can be
Speaker 1: different lengths, so you can put in different length of cleat.
Speaker 1: But Jalen switched his whole shoe at halftime. And a
Speaker 1: lot of players saying it was a horrible field. You
Speaker 1: already mentioned that as on Reddick said it was the
Speaker 1: worst field he's ever played on. But look, the NFL
Speaker 1: paid eight hundred thousand dollars for this field and it
Speaker 1: was like a Bermuda hybrid grass. It was supposed to
Speaker 1: be the creme de la creme. So apparently the NFL
Speaker 1: spent two years preparing this grass. It was like a
Speaker 1: Bermuda hybrid. It was growing and locally in Phoenix to
Speaker 1: be perfect for Phoenix conditions at a local sod farm.
Speaker 1: It was installed two weeks before the game in Jerry.
Speaker 1: Every day for those two weeks they rolled it out
Speaker 1: to get the proper amount of sunlight and then rolled
Speaker 1: it back. That's a process that takes an hour each way.
Speaker 1: And the man in charge of this field is a
Speaker 1: ninety four year old nicknamed the Sad Father, George Toma.
Speaker 1: Have you heard of this guy? I have now I have, yes. Well,
Speaker 1: he's prepared the field for every single Super Bowl and
Speaker 1: several World Series, thirty seven Pro Bowls. He actually worked
Speaker 1: for the Chiefs for a long time. He worked for
Speaker 1: the Royals. So Kansas City guy. I believe he's from
Speaker 1: Kansas City. And the fact that all this money, all
Speaker 1: this time, all this effort, you have, like the king
Speaker 1: of this subject put his handprints all over it. I
Speaker 1: cannot figure out why the field was so bad and
Speaker 1: the slickness of it and the changing of the cleats
Speaker 1: and everything we mentioned, and kickers kicking and sliding. A J.
Speaker 1: Brown had a big slip, like it was really really bad.
Speaker 1: And the fact that that is now a conversation after
Speaker 1: the NFL put like everything they could into the perfect field.
Speaker 1: This should have been like the Bentley of fields, and
Speaker 1: it was so bad. And apparently the NFL is going
Speaker 1: to donate it to a local high school. I don't
Speaker 1: even know if they want it. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you don't want it to pass. We'll pass, Uh so
Speaker 1: many things, Olivia Ada on Lee. That's an awesome unleashed.
Speaker 1: I keep coming back to the number eight grand like that.
Speaker 1: To me, that sounds like an awful lot of money.
Speaker 1: But for the NFL, the field of the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: shouldn't it number be like eight million? Am I missing?
Speaker 1: Like I know, how do you get how do you
Speaker 1: spend more money on grass? Just maybe you need more
Speaker 1: people to roll maybe need to roll it out twice
Speaker 1: a day. And I don't know. I don't know. And
Speaker 1: also the other thing that stuck out and you're amazing
Speaker 1: unleast is all respect to the pod Father, you don't
Speaker 1: do it for that long. We being the goat, You're
Speaker 1: the goat. Everyone has a hiccup. Thirty seven Pro Bowls.
Speaker 1: We really were investing that much money in the field
Speaker 1: of thirty seven Pro Bowls Like that to me is
Speaker 1: a red flag. And I think that high schools like
Speaker 1: we're good. Yeah, we we have this cheap astro turf
Speaker 1: that the kids seem to like, we're gonna stick with that.
Speaker 1: We're good, So mine is gonna stick more with the
Speaker 1: music of the Super Bowl. I am not a country guy.
Speaker 1: I'm just not you never listened to it. If you
Speaker 1: asked me to name as many country music artists as
Speaker 1: I possibly could, I think I could get to three off.
Speaker 1: Yes and no, sorry, no disrespect. I grew up in
Speaker 1: New York. It was hip hop. It was like certain
Speaker 1: rock and roll, but mainly hip hop and whatever. It's
Speaker 1: some classics. I didn't know who Chris Stapleton was. No,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm sorry to say. And this is by
Speaker 1: no means a knock on Chris Tables and this is
Speaker 1: a knock on me. I did not know who the
Speaker 1: man was. I do not keep tabs. Also, the kids
Speaker 1: have me so far behind on any current artists in general.
Speaker 1: But needless to say, I now have Chris Stapleton in
Speaker 1: my Spotify and he's on rotation, he's in a he's
Speaker 1: in a playlist now. And that goes back to your
Speaker 1: Rihanna point. He I don't think he got paid for
Speaker 1: that either. He probably got millions of dopes like me
Speaker 1: who maybe didn't weren't familiar with his music and now
Speaker 1: are and he's brilliant. He's awesome. So, Chris Stapleton, you
Speaker 1: got a new fan right here. Wow, one of many
Speaker 1: I'm sure now that, in fact, was our highlight. Sam
Speaker 1: and are huge Chris Stapleton fans. You know his song
Speaker 1: Tennessee Whiskey never Olivia. I never heard it in my life.
Speaker 1: If I heard it on country fans like that song
Speaker 1: come on exactly great. But I'm not trying to listen
Speaker 1: country fans hardcore. I'm not trying to. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: your music is bad. I it's just it's just not
Speaker 1: for me. All good. I respect it. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: walk into a bar if they're playing country musical be like,
Speaker 1: change this now, I'll roll with it. I just I'm
Speaker 1: not playing on my own time, that's all. But Chris
Speaker 1: stapleson wow, his anthem, Oh, We've listened to it like
Speaker 1: five times. I loved his aunt's great anthem, Let's go
Speaker 1: ahead and bring in our guest. He just called the
Speaker 1: super Bowl on Sunday for Westwood one Radio. He's a
Speaker 1: two time National Sportscaster of the Year and a thirty
Speaker 1: four time Father of the Year. Kevin Harland, I only
Speaker 1: say that because your oldest kid is thirty four, not
Speaker 1: that she wants reminding, but you're an old pro at
Speaker 1: being a dad. So look besides seeing me and Wolfie.
Speaker 1: What was your highlight of Super Bowl weekend? Well, that
Speaker 1: was number one. Number two. You guys had the first
Speaker 1: two slots for sure. We had all of our kids
Speaker 1: down there, so that was fun. Live and Jerry, it's
Speaker 1: so nice to be on with you, and I've enjoyed
Speaker 1: so many of these that I've watched over the weeks
Speaker 1: that you two have got great chemistry and it's it's
Speaker 1: really a privilege to be on with you today. It's
Speaker 1: always an honor to the Super Bowl just because it's
Speaker 1: the It's what everything in our NFL season leads up to.
Speaker 1: And to get a chance to do the final game
Speaker 1: and kind of put a bow on the season was great.
Speaker 1: The game was spectacular for about fifty eight minutes. The
Speaker 1: last two dragged along with the penalty and kind of
Speaker 1: a field goal, and I went back and I was
Speaker 1: watching with my wife the kick. Usually when you take
Speaker 1: a lead in the Super Bowl with about eight seconds
Speaker 1: left in the game, there is total craziness on that
Speaker 1: sideline and on the field with congratulations all around, and
Speaker 1: but that was very subdued. I was kind of surprised, actually,
Speaker 1: I think they felt the Chiefs that even with a
Speaker 1: three point lead and eight seconds left that you could
Speaker 1: never exhale, and they didn't, you know, they held him
Speaker 1: at the end and then they exploded and then we
Speaker 1: saw the celebration. So I think we had the two
Speaker 1: best teams in football this past season eat the two
Speaker 1: number one seeds, fourteen win teams, and so we had
Speaker 1: the game we wanted, We had the matchup that we
Speaker 1: certainly wanted, and I think we had the season we
Speaker 1: wanted to. There were some terrific moments in this past season,
Speaker 1: so all in all, I think a very highly entertaining
Speaker 1: past season in the NFL. So you said that it
Speaker 1: wasn't like the biggest reaction when he kicked out field goal,
Speaker 1: but you call in the game, I mean, you know
Speaker 1: it wasn't a hard field goal, But did it cross
Speaker 1: your mind, because it crossed my mind as a fan, like, No,
Speaker 1: he just missed one, and this is there no longer
Speaker 1: give me. I don't think there's ever a give me
Speaker 1: with a kick anymore with what we've been witnessing this year. No,
Speaker 1: not at all. And a very good point. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: had missed I think a forty five yard earlier in
Speaker 1: the game, and he had had a career low season
Speaker 1: in terms of field goal made percentage, and he did
Speaker 1: not have a great season. What was interesting about that, Jerry,
Speaker 1: is that he began this season. The team began the
Speaker 1: season against Arizona beat him handily, but he slipped on
Speaker 1: the grass in that game and was out then for
Speaker 1: the next four weeks. And I think he'd be the
Speaker 1: first to tell you that he never really kind of
Speaker 1: regained his whatever it was, and he left training camp
Speaker 1: with and entered the season with and certainly carried over
Speaker 1: from previous seasons. He did not have a very good
Speaker 1: year and missed many extra points. Now this is even
Speaker 1: shorter than an extra point the game winner, the twenty
Speaker 1: seven yard or I don't think you take anything for
Speaker 1: granted in the Super Bowl. On top of that, two
Speaker 1: more things. He is usually a kickoff guy that goes
Speaker 1: eleven yards back angles to the ball and then kicks it.
Speaker 1: Because of that game Week one, he had shortened his
Speaker 1: run up in every game to just five yards because
Speaker 1: he was afraid of slipping again. And in that game
Speaker 1: this past Sunday, there were many complaints by the players
Speaker 1: about poor field conditions, So you never know, right in
Speaker 1: a field goal, extra point you never know what's going
Speaker 1: to happen, and sure enough it had to be the
Speaker 1: good plant, the good hold, the good app and certainly
Speaker 1: the kick through which it was. And so they got
Speaker 1: the three point win, and that was the key, that
Speaker 1: was the difference in the game. But at halftime it
Speaker 1: was a ten point game and Philly was on top.
Speaker 1: And I worked with Kurt Warner, the Hall of Fame quarterback,
Speaker 1: and he said he and I had talked all week
Speaker 1: long leading to the game. We had the best first
Speaker 1: half team in the league in Philadelphia, and it wasn't
Speaker 1: even close in the point differential. How good they were
Speaker 1: over the second place Chiefs by like fifty or sixty
Speaker 1: points all cumulatively all season long. And then we had
Speaker 1: the best come from behind team in football, the Chiefs
Speaker 1: and their quarterback Patrick Mahomes. So we got exactly kind
Speaker 1: of has we saw it beforehand, and a thrilling end
Speaker 1: on the last three point game and the crowning of
Speaker 1: a second Super Bowl for the Chiefs in the last
Speaker 1: four years. You had Mike Golic and Laura Oakman on
Speaker 1: the sideline for your Westwood One broadcast. What were they
Speaker 1: saying about the field? Because as we've talked about earlier
Speaker 1: in the show. It took two years to grow. It
Speaker 1: was an eight hundred thousand dollar field that was handled
Speaker 1: with the utmost care by the sod father himself. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: you had the note, and I used that during the broadcast.
Speaker 1: Somewhere along the line. I used the fact that George Toma,
Speaker 1: who is like ninety three living ninety four years and
Speaker 1: is from ironically enough, Kansas City. That's where he began
Speaker 1: in his career as a young groundskeeper for the old
Speaker 1: Kansas City Athletics and before they were the Kansas City
Speaker 1: A's who became the Oakland Ays were soon to become.
Speaker 1: I guess the Las Vegas Athletics, the Las Vegas A's
Speaker 1: aces maybe with the with the being in Vegas. He
Speaker 1: had handled every single Super Bowl field preparation, all fifty
Speaker 1: seven of them, which to me is remarkable. They stuck
Speaker 1: with the same guy. So you're right, Olivia, he had
Speaker 1: under his auspices, under his watch. He was the guy
Speaker 1: that that watched the growing of this field, the maintaining
Speaker 1: of this field, and everything else. Now people said it
Speaker 1: was inside and the gissing of Rihanna's halftime, different things
Speaker 1: that were going on during the week, but a lot
Speaker 1: of it that the tray was still outside a good
Speaker 1: portion of the week. So anyway, my point is is
Speaker 1: that even with a guy that has done at fifty
Speaker 1: seven times and I think they did try a new
Speaker 1: blend of grass and what the combination was I think
Speaker 1: was in the story that that Livy said, it really
Speaker 1: met with with the thumbs down. So Oklahoma State has
Speaker 1: been at the forefront of developing a grass that is
Speaker 1: going to be universally used in the NFL Eventually. I
Speaker 1: think the players want to get rid of artificial surfaces.
Speaker 1: Players don't want any more plastic grass, even though it
Speaker 1: may be more cushion e and have more resilience to it.
Speaker 1: They would like to have players real grass, and they've
Speaker 1: got a brand that they're kind of zeroing in on,
Speaker 1: but that was not used for the Super Bowl. So
Speaker 1: it's an ongoing story and it will be looked at.
Speaker 1: But for whatever reason, the grass was very slick in
Speaker 1: our sideline report. As Olivia mentioned, they brought this up
Speaker 1: during during the game and during pregames and guys are slipping,
Speaker 1: changing their cleats, getting longer cleats. Livia has done countless
Speaker 1: games on the sidelines so she is very adept at
Speaker 1: finding who the equipment people are, where they keep this
Speaker 1: this group of extra shoepairs or extra cleats that they
Speaker 1: can literally screw in and screw out. It's a pretty
Speaker 1: significant process, but a part of the armor that these
Speaker 1: guys were a tool they need during the game and
Speaker 1: they all were switching their cleats. Jerry, are you gonna
Speaker 1: start calling me living now, because for those who don't
Speaker 1: know that is me, I am living that I feel
Speaker 1: like is reserved for your father. I would never I
Speaker 1: would never try to know. I'll stick you can please
Speaker 1: use you can use it, okay, if I have your
Speaker 1: father's blessing, use it and uh in good health. We
Speaker 1: talked about this a few weeks ago when Olivia did
Speaker 1: the sideline with the Jaguars game, and I kind of
Speaker 1: got her perspective of that. And you know, I'm a
Speaker 1: father now of two little so I just I just
Speaker 1: found myself since that moment, wondering like that just has
Speaker 1: to be the coolest feeling in the world, Like you're
Speaker 1: doing what you love and then you've got your daughter
Speaker 1: in the building doing what you like. Has this got
Speaker 1: to have been the most fulfilling thing as a parent,
Speaker 1: and we've done it before. We've done several games before,
Speaker 1: stretching back for or five years, so the experience wasn't new,
Speaker 1: but the feeling always feels new when you throw it
Speaker 1: down to her. It is a it hasn't happened before
Speaker 1: in an NFL game and a national broadcast, so there
Speaker 1: is that singularity to it. But you know, you almost
Speaker 1: go from boy, I hope my daughter or son does
Speaker 1: the best they can. Two, we've got a seasoned pro
Speaker 1: on the sideline who has covered multiple big games, done
Speaker 1: a ton of national TV, does a show like this
Speaker 1: which is seen all over the world, and is the
Speaker 1: consummate professional. So that part, while it may have been
Speaker 1: in the back of my mind back in two in sixteen,
Speaker 1: I think when we did the Monday night game at
Speaker 1: lambeau Field, the moment she opens her mouth and begins
Speaker 1: to talk and and gives us great information. She's as
Speaker 1: good as anybody out there in my opinion, and I
Speaker 1: have a pretty significant opinion on the business, and I've
Speaker 1: been in it so long and kind of knows what
Speaker 1: it takes to be what you need to be, and
Speaker 1: she has always been that. She has always answered the
Speaker 1: bell and continues to just amaze me with her preparation,
Speaker 1: her work, ethic, her ploise, just everything she does. Now
Speaker 1: she's a mom and wife and living in another country,
Speaker 1: so you know, these are things that just amazed me.
Speaker 1: Probably more than when she opens her mouth and and
Speaker 1: reports from the field, is the fact that she can
Speaker 1: tie all these things together so seamlessly, which I think
Speaker 1: for the normal person seems like an avalanche of worry
Speaker 1: and concern, and she just doesn't blink. And it's that's
Speaker 1: so incredibly impressive to are her mom and me. We
Speaker 1: love all we we've got four kids. We're proud of
Speaker 1: all of them. But clearly, when someone follows into your
Speaker 1: profession and does what she does, it resonates for sure. Jerry,
Speaker 1: I know that wasn't in our show notes. You don't
Speaker 1: have to go asking that. No, I want to know,
Speaker 1: I told I really found myself looking at my two
Speaker 1: year old, I'm like, well, I don't think I want
Speaker 1: you to be actors, but maybe we can figure you
Speaker 1: know something one day, maybe we'll write a movie together
Speaker 1: or something. Because I just thought it was really cool.
Speaker 1: We could get back to the regularly schedule questions though, Sorry,
Speaker 1: I just had to go there. I think I know
Speaker 1: the answer to this question, but I might be wrong
Speaker 1: because I loved your call when the Chiefs won and
Speaker 1: we can insert it right here. Trailing at ten at
Speaker 1: the halftime stop twenty four four team. They go on
Speaker 1: to win thirty five one. Again spectacular in every way
Speaker 1: in the red and gold can be flying in the air.
Speaker 1: The Chiefs are Super Bowl champions. Did you have something
Speaker 1: ready or was it disorganic? No? It was organic, And uh,
Speaker 1: I mean when you go back and listen, I wish
Speaker 1: I would have said thousand different things. Um, you don't
Speaker 1: want to be too long because you know, you know,
Speaker 1: you want to kind of get to the point, and
Speaker 1: we want to get down to the sideline because they've
Speaker 1: got the players ready to interview, so you can't be
Speaker 1: that long, you know. And the game kind of ended
Speaker 1: oddly because the penalty was really now the focus. The
Speaker 1: field goal had won it, but there was this massive
Speaker 1: comeback clearly, and so that deserved to mention. Jalen Hurts
Speaker 1: outplayed Patrick Mahomes. Jalen Hurts had a much better day
Speaker 1: than Mahomes. Ma Homes won the game and came back
Speaker 1: and did what he had to do in the second half,
Speaker 1: so you know that kind of I thought about that,
Speaker 1: but I thought, like I said, I could go back
Speaker 1: and rewrite it, and but no, I I didn't. And
Speaker 1: our executive producer, who has done thirty three of these,
Speaker 1: uh you know, said, you know, Kurt lay out at
Speaker 1: the end, so that we can get this final call
Speaker 1: in so that they could use it twenty years from
Speaker 1: now and know exactly what happened come from behind when
Speaker 1: down by ten at a half time to win Super
Speaker 1: Bowl fifty seven, and then the other stories kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, trickle out from that statement. I guess I
Speaker 1: could have mentioned Mahomes, but really what he did in
Speaker 1: the game wasn't as impressive as Hurts. You could have
Speaker 1: picked a couple other people that may have been in
Speaker 1: that conversation for player of the game. Uh, not that
Speaker 1: he has to be mentioned in the final call, but
Speaker 1: you don't know. And I make notes on the fight
Speaker 1: up here to Wisconsin after the game because everything is
Speaker 1: fresh in my mind about the call and how I
Speaker 1: prepared or what I need to do to tweak. And
Speaker 1: I do this after every game, but did this after
Speaker 1: that game and thought maybe it would be good to
Speaker 1: have two or three thoughts and then and then whatever
Speaker 1: thought without actually follow in the script makes sense, come
Speaker 1: out and say it. But I really wasn't thinking about
Speaker 1: Mahomes's performance in the comeback. I thought of it as
Speaker 1: a team come back. As the Chiefs came back as
Speaker 1: a team, they scored defensively, they got a special teams
Speaker 1: point that that that won the game. And so you
Speaker 1: kind of go down that road. And there have been
Speaker 1: sometimes where I felt, oh, it's clear cut, Carmelo Anthony
Speaker 1: and Syracuse, you know, win the Final four, win the
Speaker 1: national championship. There might be something dominant. But in that
Speaker 1: particular moment, I guess I just thought, let's just get
Speaker 1: the big wide, let's widen the lens. And they came
Speaker 1: back from a half point at ten point episode at
Speaker 1: half time, and they were they were able to win.
Speaker 1: You know, I think you would be the perfect person
Speaker 1: they asked us too, because you know, knowing the Chiefs
Speaker 1: like you do, but also being in the stadiums and
Speaker 1: feeling the crowds and everything surrounding that. You know, I
Speaker 1: loved rivalries. I think rivalries what keeps these sports going. Okay,
Speaker 1: I really do, and I've been a part, like I'm
Speaker 1: a Yankee fans. I've seen the Yankee Red Sox stuff.
Speaker 1: Nix and Nick's nineties had some good rivalries now just
Speaker 1: rivals with themselves pretty and maybe they're or going to
Speaker 1: their front office at times. But to me, it feels
Speaker 1: like the best rivalry in football is Kansas City. And
Speaker 1: you could almost insert several teams, right, So if we're
Speaker 1: trying to find that team to go with the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: and maybe it could be an NFC, like you said,
Speaker 1: the Eagles, But who is the biggest rival now for
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, that's a great question. I would say, if
Speaker 1: it's not Buffalo, it's Incinnati. And if it's not the Bengals,
Speaker 1: it's the Bills. And I think they are all connected
Speaker 1: with these three young quarterbacks who are really dynamic and
Speaker 1: have got long future, successful futures and a lot of
Speaker 1: trophies ahead of all three of them, Mahomes has stepped
Speaker 1: out and kind of taking the leading man. He's had
Speaker 1: the best overall team. People were predicting the Buffalo was
Speaker 1: going to be that team, and then they had some
Speaker 1: injuries and for whatever reason, they couldn't really capture you know,
Speaker 1: whatever it was they had, you know, and it came
Speaker 1: down to they lost at home and the playoffs, and
Speaker 1: after beaten you know, Kansas City last year, and and
Speaker 1: and and having a successful game this year against him
Speaker 1: in the regular season, I think people just kind of
Speaker 1: thought the Bills are the team to watch, and that
Speaker 1: will be the team too to really count on people
Speaker 1: like new entrance to a story. So I think people
Speaker 1: were hoping, yeah, let's get the Bills. We had the
Speaker 1: Bengals last year. Let's let's let's get some of these
Speaker 1: other teams in there, and let's see if they can,
Speaker 1: you know, capture our imagination. But Mahomes and the Chiefs
Speaker 1: are showing that they are very special outfit. You know
Speaker 1: they are. He is an incredible quarterback, is tough as
Speaker 1: they come. And I think Burrow is the same way.
Speaker 1: And I definitely think that Herbert justin Herbert out with
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Chargers, Josh Allen with the Bills, like
Speaker 1: these are the four quarterbacks you want to watch, and
Speaker 1: they're all gonna be right there at the end. I
Speaker 1: think of every season for the next seven, eight, nine,
Speaker 1: ten years, and that's gonna build these rivalries as you
Speaker 1: talk about. So you could put the chief in there
Speaker 1: against a lot of teams in the NFC. I'd say
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, but they've not really gotten near the finish line,
Speaker 1: and so that makes them you could say Jones with
Speaker 1: the Giants, I think you can insert Jalen Hurts. But listen,
Speaker 1: the Eagles just lost their two coordinators tow head coaching
Speaker 1: jobs in the league. They have eight team free agents
Speaker 1: this year. It's gonna be hard for them to be
Speaker 1: what they were this past season. And but Hurts clearly
Speaker 1: proved he now is in that conversation of great young
Speaker 1: quarterbacks will more emerge in the NFC. They may, and
Speaker 1: but Hurts right now probably is the head of the back,
Speaker 1: maybe even ahead of Dak Prescott of Dallas, who everyone
Speaker 1: I think is kind of penciled in. Rodgers is thirty nine,
Speaker 1: and go right on down the list. But but Hurt
Speaker 1: showed a lot. He was second in the m v
Speaker 1: P and he should have been. He was terrific. He
Speaker 1: was speaking of NFC quarterbacks. I know you still have
Speaker 1: friends with the Packers and you're close to the situation
Speaker 1: and probably have your own opinion. What do you think
Speaker 1: would make sense for both sides, for Aaron and the
Speaker 1: Packers moving forward? Well, Packers are a strong team, and
Speaker 1: they've got a lot of great parts. They were just
Speaker 1: young at a position where Rogers is demanding a lot.
Speaker 1: I think his performance is still there. They've still got
Speaker 1: all pros on their offensive line, They've got emerging players
Speaker 1: on offense, They've got a great to attack it at
Speaker 1: running back, they've got playmakers on defense, a young secondary
Speaker 1: that has definitely arrived. If it were me, and of
Speaker 1: course it isn't, but I would like to think, let's
Speaker 1: do something unique. Let's finish with the team I started
Speaker 1: with I've got and let me commit to two years.
Speaker 1: Let me not just go into a dark room and
Speaker 1: drink some weird tea and let me let's not let's
Speaker 1: not do that stuff. Let's commit and say, you know what,
Speaker 1: I still feel like I'm at the top of my game,
Speaker 1: which he does. He says that he feels that I
Speaker 1: think he is. Let's give this two hard years and
Speaker 1: let's really just work on this. I think the Packers
Speaker 1: have then got to figure out do we bring him
Speaker 1: back for two years, stunt the growth of this other
Speaker 1: kid we've got backing him up, who we think is
Speaker 1: going to be our placement, or do we stick with
Speaker 1: the guy who's going to be a first ballot Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer, one of the top ten quarterbacks in the
Speaker 1: history of the NFL, who has publicly come out and said,
Speaker 1: you've got my two year guarantee right now, I'm coming back,
Speaker 1: and we can really plan it and plot it just
Speaker 1: like that. You may have to go all in on
Speaker 1: a on a free agent and overspend, you know, to
Speaker 1: appease me, but that that will be a part of
Speaker 1: our two year window. I guess that it's the romantic
Speaker 1: in me that thinks, boy, wouldn't it be great if
Speaker 1: he began with the Packers and ended with the Packers
Speaker 1: and maybe got to a second Super Bowl, which is
Speaker 1: to me mind boggling that as great as his career
Speaker 1: has been, he's only been to one. Now, if they
Speaker 1: trade him to whoever, let's say the Jets or whoever
Speaker 1: has been rumored, and there have been a lot of
Speaker 1: teams rumored. Now he goes let's say, to the Jets,
Speaker 1: he has to learn a new system or they've got
Speaker 1: to get used to him. He's in a new market.
Speaker 1: I mean, like I just I just see it being
Speaker 1: cumbersome and not you know, what it needs to be
Speaker 1: for him. So I have no idea. You know, he's
Speaker 1: just come out of this period where he's wanted this
Speaker 1: this this time to himself, which we all respect, and
Speaker 1: he makes, you know, knowing all these things, he shares
Speaker 1: a lot of information with the rest of the world,
Speaker 1: including this. So we'll have to see what happens. But
Speaker 1: I would love to see him stay, and I guess
Speaker 1: that would be not only my hope but my my best.
Speaker 1: Guess right now, now, can I selfishly and try to
Speaker 1: smoothly transition us to basketball, because as I love the NFL,
Speaker 1: this has been an unbelievable season, and I guess the
Speaker 1: NFL is my number one sports shore because it's just
Speaker 1: you only get you know, sevent games. Well it's only
Speaker 1: because I am an NBA guy, but I will even
Speaker 1: admit that, like, you know, by this point in the season,
Speaker 1: although I'm very excited about my knicks, I'm laboring a
Speaker 1: little bit with some of the I'm not watching as
Speaker 1: many games, but the All Star break and the All
Speaker 1: Star weekend is always like, Okay, this is the moment
Speaker 1: we can all regroup our fandom and then we're gonna
Speaker 1: come back. I mean, I've been on the wrong side
Speaker 1: of these second half of the season things with the Knicks,
Speaker 1: But I feel good this year. But what kemel and
Speaker 1: ask you is you've had, you know, the opportunity to
Speaker 1: do Saturday Night and the Sunday game, which I think
Speaker 1: is just the cool like the coolest thing ever. Like,
Speaker 1: I guess, take me through it if you had to shoot,
Speaker 1: not if you had to choose. But what's it like
Speaker 1: doing Sunday Night, Sunday Game or Saturday Night Because I'm
Speaker 1: a Saturday Night guy. I'm not gonna lie, I'm a
Speaker 1: Saturday guy. Well, I did the game last year and
Speaker 1: enjoyed it. But when you're watching the game, the hype
Speaker 1: for the game is definitely greater than the game, and
Speaker 1: you get a feel of that because they've had to
Speaker 1: rig it so that there are little games within the
Speaker 1: games to get to a certain point. The game has
Speaker 1: had a hard time standing on its own. The players
Speaker 1: don't play defense, and it really is kind of like
Speaker 1: a an exaggerated practice where you've got a lot of
Speaker 1: spectacular shooting, you've got some dunks. But the thing that
Speaker 1: makes the dunks and the shooting so great is when
Speaker 1: there's a little competition there to challenge the shot or
Speaker 1: challenge the dunk and that challenge just is not there.
Speaker 1: I mean, I said courtside last year and watched in
Speaker 1: Cleveland when they celebrated the first seventy five years of
Speaker 1: the league with the greatest name this league has ever
Speaker 1: put out, and then you go to the game and
Speaker 1: the game is kind of like, you know, because it
Speaker 1: really is. It's like it's like an exaggerated practice, a
Speaker 1: glorified practice. The Saturday thing is interesting because it is
Speaker 1: all individual and you're out there for the whole world
Speaker 1: to see your three point shooting, your dunk abilities, your
Speaker 1: your ability to maneuver around a a obstacle course, and
Speaker 1: so it has kind of a uniqueness because the individual
Speaker 1: skills that perhaps that player possesses are right there on
Speaker 1: center stage, and I guess the player feels like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to embarrass myself, which I think has been
Speaker 1: a problem with the slam dunk. I think the players,
Speaker 1: the great ones, don't want to get in a slam
Speaker 1: dunk deal and screw up because they want what is
Speaker 1: in people's minds that they're this incredible I flying, you know,
Speaker 1: trapeze artist, you know, throwing down the ball. Kobe was
Speaker 1: in it. We've had Michael Jordan's in it. Dr j
Speaker 1: has been in it, but Lebron has not, and some
Speaker 1: of the other Dominique Wilkens was in it the Human
Speaker 1: Highlight film, but a lot of these young kids refused
Speaker 1: to be in it. I'd love to see John Morand
Speaker 1: in it, who I think would be unbelievable. He's not
Speaker 1: in it. So I'm kind of torn by the weekend.
Speaker 1: It's great to get the NBA family together, and because
Speaker 1: I've watched it for so long with a great sea courtside,
Speaker 1: I know what these guys can do, and I know
Speaker 1: they're very proud of what they can do. But for
Speaker 1: whatever reason, on that weekend, I think there's probably the
Speaker 1: concern I don't want to get hurt, and I totally
Speaker 1: get it. So the game kind of leaves you thinking,
Speaker 1: I mean, they scored one hundred and sixty points, but
Speaker 1: there they had to juice the game in the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter to make it competitive so that we, you know,
Speaker 1: think for the first three quarters it really is just
Speaker 1: kind of a it's it's it's a glorified practice. And
Speaker 1: so I'm back to doing Saturdays and we'll enjoy it.
Speaker 1: I enjoy what these guys can do. Every once in
Speaker 1: a while, and we saw it last year with Steph
Speaker 1: Curry in the In the game, you'll get like what
Speaker 1: he get sixteen threes or some ridiculous number like that,
Speaker 1: and you're thinking, oh my god, this kid is like
Speaker 1: just unbelievable. He's not gonna play this year, and and
Speaker 1: some other big names aren't. Zion is not going to
Speaker 1: play this year. I'd love to see Zion Williamson and
Speaker 1: his slam dunk contest. I think it would be remarkable,
Speaker 1: but we don't get it. And that's it kind of
Speaker 1: leaves fans thinking. But they're the build up for it
Speaker 1: is like this month, the voting and the mund and
Speaker 1: the advertisement, you would think, like, holy smokes, like this
Speaker 1: is gonna be like just mind blowing, and it usually
Speaker 1: ends up just you make it one player. But it's
Speaker 1: not the kind of competition. You should hear the old
Speaker 1: players talk about the guys that used to play in
Speaker 1: this game. Wow, yeah, yeah, they're that and everything else
Speaker 1: worse than they they'll use the word kind of disgrace.
Speaker 1: They'll they'll say these things that that just should not
Speaker 1: be associated with the NBA. It's it's a great game
Speaker 1: with incredible players, that's where everybody loves the playoffs because
Speaker 1: they mean so much. The playoffs mean so much, and
Speaker 1: reputations are carved in the playoffs. Reputations are not carved
Speaker 1: on All Star weekend. Reputations are carved in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: And then you see things that you've been waiting all
Speaker 1: the season to see, you know, and that is worth
Speaker 1: the price of admission, for sure. There's nothing like playoff basketball.
Speaker 1: It's so much to be courtside for those of the
Speaker 1: All Star games that you have called what is your
Speaker 1: favorite slam dunk contest winner? Just dunk in general that's
Speaker 1: been in the contest because there's been some fun ones. Robinson,
Speaker 1: Nate Robinson, who is just a little guy, has done
Speaker 1: some big, big time things. He's he won a couple
Speaker 1: of years through, maybe three years in a row, if
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, I know too. Um, this stuff kind
Speaker 1: of gets fuzzy because it's all, you know, just exhibition.
Speaker 1: It's not, you know, much better on playoff questions and
Speaker 1: regular season questions, stuff that that matters. But but Nate Robinson,
Speaker 1: as small as he was to leap that high, you know,
Speaker 1: a man matt small should not fly that high. And
Speaker 1: he did and has and he was fun to watch.
Speaker 1: You know what really stands out, quite honestly about that
Speaker 1: that's interesting with you that you bring that up is
Speaker 1: are the guys that don't make the shot and they
Speaker 1: try it like thirteen Team Jerry? Is that not it's heartbreaking,
Speaker 1: it's you're anxious here. You feel like you want to
Speaker 1: look away, Like it's like you can see a crash
Speaker 1: coming right and you think, oh my gosh, I gotta
Speaker 1: look away here, I can't watch anymore. And then you've
Speaker 1: got like I'm with Charles and Draymond Green is going
Speaker 1: to join us this year, Reggie Miller and the and
Speaker 1: the trash talk that these guys did. These players they
Speaker 1: can't get this dunk to go down because they're trying
Speaker 1: to do you know, fifteen worlds in a spin and
Speaker 1: then a you know, knock it off their head and
Speaker 1: have kids. I mean that they do all this stuff, yes,
Speaker 1: costumes and stickers on the backboard, and it is it
Speaker 1: is amazing what they come up with. But this is
Speaker 1: the stuff like that practice they're screwing around, dreaming up
Speaker 1: and they come up with all this. So the ingenuity
Speaker 1: is great. The diagram. So let's go from A to
Speaker 1: B and B to C and C twod it's like, Wow,
Speaker 1: if you can pull this off, it'll be marvelous. But
Speaker 1: a lot of times they have trouble pulling it off
Speaker 1: because you've got, you know, millions of people watching a
Speaker 1: full building, and and the biggest name players sit in
Speaker 1: courtside right there, right in front of you, you know,
Speaker 1: right there. Yes, yes, no, no, it's it's right there.
Speaker 1: I have two pitches for the dunk contest that I
Speaker 1: think just stand perspect One. I totally appreciate, like you said,
Speaker 1: John Moran doesn't want to be out there missing ten
Speaker 1: dunks that could really hurt everything he's got going off
Speaker 1: the court, and no one wants to get hurt. There
Speaker 1: are some amazing almost professional dunkers, guys who are on
Speaker 1: Instagram and social media who are dunking a hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty times a day, practicing these crazy dunks that are
Speaker 1: not in an NBA season. I think you still opened
Speaker 1: it up to any young player like a Jericho Sims.
Speaker 1: You want great and then you bring in four dunkers,
Speaker 1: guys who have just been dunking forever. And I think
Speaker 1: you got to bring back the point five in the
Speaker 1: scoring system because now I don't know what the fifty
Speaker 1: is anymore because some the fifties are just thrown around
Speaker 1: so easily. I think we bring back the point five,
Speaker 1: we could get the forty nine and a half, and
Speaker 1: I think that all out. That's my pitch to revamp.
Speaker 1: If I work for the NBA to revamp the dunk contest,
Speaker 1: I love that. In fact, what they should do is
Speaker 1: take these YouTubers and put them on the screen so
Speaker 1: we can all see what they've done and and get
Speaker 1: us lathered up right for for what For what these
Speaker 1: prowers could do. The problem is those pros could could
Speaker 1: never do that because they haven't practice. They have not practiced,
Speaker 1: and they don't want to be embarrassed. That's one of
Speaker 1: the big that's one of the big things. They do
Speaker 1: not want to be embarrassed. And I get it, you
Speaker 1: know what. I respect that. And they say, the only
Speaker 1: thing that gets me going is competition. And in the
Speaker 1: heat of a game, where I don't think about what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do, it just comes like Olivia uses were organically,
Speaker 1: it just happens because it happens, and I'm in that
Speaker 1: frame of mind, and that's when it means something and
Speaker 1: is pure and not orchestrated, not pre thought, not planned,
Speaker 1: And I get all that that that is that has
Speaker 1: a lot of validity to it. But if we had
Speaker 1: something that had the point five like you talked about,
Speaker 1: it would make the voting a little bit different because
Speaker 1: every dunk is not a ten. I mean, it just isn't.
Speaker 1: It just is not. But the guys that are grading
Speaker 1: feel like, well, it's not a nine, but as good
Speaker 1: best I saw tonight. So I'll put up a plaquer
Speaker 1: that says ten. Right. So so Jerry, your thought is
Speaker 1: as well as well taken. I I think that that
Speaker 1: would be a great addition. I know you were a
Speaker 1: little busy this week, but there is a huge trade.
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant is now a Phoenix Sun and they instantly
Speaker 1: become a top contender. What were your initial thoughts on
Speaker 1: this trade when he first saw it and then as
Speaker 1: it simmered a little bit. Well, I've always thought that
Speaker 1: Phoenix was a young team that could be good for
Speaker 1: a long time with the cord that they had minus
Speaker 1: Chris Paul who's thirty six thirty seven years old, who's
Speaker 1: on the clock in his window is closing, But as
Speaker 1: long as he was around and still a voice in
Speaker 1: the locker room and a leader around the floor, they
Speaker 1: were going to be an interesting and they'll put another
Speaker 1: guard in there some other day, but the core would
Speaker 1: be together, right. They cam Johnson, They had mcel Bridges
Speaker 1: who was a phenomenal young player, and that was part
Speaker 1: of their big foundation with Devin Booker and Ayton who's
Speaker 1: in the middle. But boy, they went all in with
Speaker 1: draft choices, young core, foundational pieces and got got Durant
Speaker 1: and they just had the team sell and the new
Speaker 1: owner came in there and I guess he wanted to
Speaker 1: make a splash and he certainly did for an offense
Speaker 1: injured superstar who was in his mid thirties but was
Speaker 1: having an m v P type season when he was
Speaker 1: injured and made the nets, you know, really really good.
Speaker 1: So that's one of those things you got to look
Speaker 1: at yourself in the mirror and say, am I sacrificing
Speaker 1: the future for the present? And clearly they are, so
Speaker 1: it is kind of what it is. And then we
Speaker 1: had Kyrie go to Dallas and the Mavericks and they
Speaker 1: traded some wonderful pieces around Don Chech that made that
Speaker 1: team a Western Conference final team a season ago. But
Speaker 1: you need two superstars on a team to win a title,
Speaker 1: and that was the thinking in Phoenix because they get
Speaker 1: a couple of Durant with Booker, who was first team
Speaker 1: All NBA last season and a four time All Star.
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, we've got Chris Paul, you know,
Speaker 1: at the controls at the steering wheel. And then for Kyrie,
Speaker 1: a superstar and his talented guard. As this league has
Speaker 1: ever seen, it's just been up here, which has been
Speaker 1: a little bit like law Off Kilder clearly as we've
Speaker 1: seen with his history. You pair him with Don Chitch.
Speaker 1: Now you've got two superstars there too. So you need
Speaker 1: a Robin for a batman, you need you need two
Speaker 1: superstars at the least to make a run. And that's
Speaker 1: kind of what what those teams thought they had to do.
Speaker 1: So I love it when teams do this because it
Speaker 1: gets the league talking. They'll be fascinating studies to see.
Speaker 1: And my guess is for a half season that it
Speaker 1: will be successful. The long term will be sacrifice, but
Speaker 1: for a half season this is gonna be fascinating to watch.
Speaker 1: I agree with you on the playoff part of it, too.
Speaker 1: That's why I was such a big and maybe it's
Speaker 1: also too because I know the Nicks were never going
Speaker 1: to qualify for regular playoffs for a while. I'm such
Speaker 1: a fan of a play in, and like when we
Speaker 1: talk about the West and I was just looking we
Speaker 1: could potentially, I mean, there's gonna be a lot of movement,
Speaker 1: but the play in as of right now in the
Speaker 1: West goes New Orleans and hopefully they get Zion back,
Speaker 1: Minnesota go Olden State, and then we have Utah hanging
Speaker 1: on for dear life. I don't imagine if they stick
Speaker 1: there with the late like if the Lakers sneak in
Speaker 1: like a Pelican's Warriors Timberwolves Lakers plan, that's going to
Speaker 1: be as good as any first round kind of thing
Speaker 1: going on. I just love the play and I was
Speaker 1: wondering your thoughts on the plan. You are so right.
Speaker 1: It is it's almost like sudden death and some circumstances
Speaker 1: in that mix. It is so you've got a shortened window,
Speaker 1: You've got credible, incredible urgency to win and win now,
Speaker 1: and you cannot say, well, we'll make it a five
Speaker 1: or seven game series. That does not happen in this situation.
Speaker 1: So it is either sudden death or maybe you fall
Speaker 1: after a loss and you can get another chance. But man,
Speaker 1: you are on the clock, and that is the way
Speaker 1: people love it when you are fighting for your life.
Speaker 1: You see incredible basketball now with the Angelo Russell joining
Speaker 1: the Lakers, healthy Lebron and a healthy A D, that
Speaker 1: is a team I would not want to face. I
Speaker 1: think they would be an incredible out And I think
Speaker 1: all they're thinking right now is let's creep back in
Speaker 1: and then we will will accelerate. I mean they're trying.
Speaker 1: I mean they're trying to win. They want to better
Speaker 1: their position, but they've got to get in that little
Speaker 1: grouping there that play and as you're talking about, so
Speaker 1: we need to really you're so right, Jerry. We need
Speaker 1: to look at the conference leaders as the top six,
Speaker 1: the certain six, and when we're talking, here are the
Speaker 1: teams as of the day that are in. Here are
Speaker 1: the teams that are on the bubble or in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: and it will resemble I think the best thing the
Speaker 1: NBA has done with this is it resembles the n
Speaker 1: c A Tournament, which is right around the corner, and
Speaker 1: people love it for that reason alone. You're playing till
Speaker 1: the death. You're playing to the blast second. There is
Speaker 1: no tomorrow. If we don't win, we are gone. That's
Speaker 1: what makes that tournament so great, both in the NBA
Speaker 1: and in the n c A, the college tournament. And
Speaker 1: you know, you can't ask as a fan, or a
Speaker 1: broadcaster or or anybody more than a chance to to
Speaker 1: lay it all on the line for one game. And
Speaker 1: that's what we get with those two scenarios. Jerry, doesn't
Speaker 1: that remind you of the pump up speech I give
Speaker 1: you before we record every podcast Tomorrow? I think we're
Speaker 1: a top six seed though you definitely or that's exactly
Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about playing in at all.
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you one question in the East too,
Speaker 1: because the other night Boston without their all stars, nearly
Speaker 1: beat the Bucks, took them overtime. Who do you see
Speaker 1: coming out of the East when you think about those
Speaker 1: two teams, especially, well, what I'm looking I get to
Speaker 1: do the East Finals so that I cannot wait. I
Speaker 1: cannot wait. I think any of these teams, I don't
Speaker 1: know what's going to happen to Brooklyn. Now they've reconstituted
Speaker 1: their team, but they're still strong. They're a solid team. Nix.
Speaker 1: I saw him the other night, the Knicks, and they
Speaker 1: played the Nets. I'm a big bibbot O fan. Anyway,
Speaker 1: their coach, I love Julius. He Randall works as hard
Speaker 1: as any player, and he know he's got to right.
Speaker 1: He knows he's got this team on his shoulder. But
Speaker 1: I love some of the kids on their team, and
Speaker 1: so I'm watching them with interest. But the usual suspects.
Speaker 1: You're right, Philly, Boston, Milwaukee, Miami is so well coach,
Speaker 1: you've got to include them, the Nets, the Knicks. I
Speaker 1: know we're gonna have some other teams creep in there,
Speaker 1: but I guess my my view is on that grouping
Speaker 1: right now. Milwaukee made a great move. We're talking about
Speaker 1: trades and the moves before the deadline. They got Jay Crowder.
Speaker 1: They needed a defensive wing, and they needed a guy
Speaker 1: that could shoot the three, and they got the added
Speaker 1: bonus of a guy who's been in big playoff games,
Speaker 1: played in some recent finals. He knows the world that
Speaker 1: that is and he just strengthens their bench evermore. And
Speaker 1: when Bobby Portis comes back. I don't think Porters played
Speaker 1: the other night. I don't think he's back. Yet when
Speaker 1: porter and he was, he's been out for like two
Speaker 1: or three weeks. I don't think he's back. So when
Speaker 1: Portis is back, now they've got their bench, which is
Speaker 1: gonna be just like hold on to your huts. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be phenomenal. I like, and Middleton has come back.
Speaker 1: Middleton has missed two big sections. He missed twenty games
Speaker 1: early on, then eighteen games he had a thumb injury,
Speaker 1: had knee sorenus. Now he's back. They're working in back
Speaker 1: in slowly. They gotta watch his minutes. Man, is he's
Speaker 1: an all star. He's an all Star caliber player. And
Speaker 1: you put them with the honest who's I still think
Speaker 1: the single best, most exciting player in the league to
Speaker 1: do what he's doing at his size is he dribbles
Speaker 1: like a guard. He moves like a forward. He shoots
Speaker 1: like a marksman outside from three. He's developed that part
Speaker 1: of his game. And then he moves like when he
Speaker 1: goes through a lane, he gives you eight. He moves
Speaker 1: like every joint in his body right, He's like he's
Speaker 1: just like he's like a plastic man. He's like he's
Speaker 1: like so angular and he's like doing all this stuff
Speaker 1: like I don't I can't process him. So the East
Speaker 1: is gonna be dynamite and the West will be good
Speaker 1: if Kyrie and Durant stay healthy. But that is the
Speaker 1: big if, if they can't stay healthy, and if Lebron
Speaker 1: and a d can stay healthy. So there's a lot
Speaker 1: of unknown in the West, but the East seems to
Speaker 1: be intact and it's going to be a fight to
Speaker 1: the finish. It's gonna be marvelous. The things your brain
Speaker 1: holds onto and you remember everything, it's no wonder why
Speaker 1: at the dinner table sometimes you have no idea what
Speaker 1: we're talking about. Your brain is holding so much information
Speaker 1: from sports. But you guys are too though. I know
Speaker 1: Exaccho what you do, you too do to prepare. So
Speaker 1: now that football is over and you're you're so immersed
Speaker 1: in football, this NBA well, first way that the nt
Speaker 1: A Tournament, and we got to get through that before
Speaker 1: we get to the playoffs, which you're looking forward to.
Speaker 1: You I've done twenty five years of those, and I
Speaker 1: love the tournament in every way. That first day when
Speaker 1: those eight teams come out to practice and it is
Speaker 1: a long day, and it is it is a that
Speaker 1: first day that we broadcast, we do eight teams in
Speaker 1: four games, all in one twelve hour period. It's, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, physically it's hard. Mentally it's it's excruciating, and
Speaker 1: you're just trying to get the names of the team's
Speaker 1: right and the names of the kids right because you
Speaker 1: see so much but fans those kids to get there.
Speaker 1: That could be the last college game they ever played,
Speaker 1: and so, like I was saying before, they play with
Speaker 1: such gusto and it means so much, and that's that
Speaker 1: is just a blast to be a part of. For
Speaker 1: a lot of them, it's the last time they play
Speaker 1: organized basketball. It's sure is your husband played in two
Speaker 1: final fours. That just does not happen. That just does
Speaker 1: not happen. So when you play in the tournament, it's
Speaker 1: like a life altering experience. If you can make it
Speaker 1: with a couple of wins and become you know, a
Speaker 1: story that is something that in your wildest imagination you
Speaker 1: can't process. And then if you're lucky to make it
Speaker 1: through all of that, including the regular season and your
Speaker 1: conferences tournament thing, now you've made it to a final
Speaker 1: four or in Elite eight, you think, boy, have I
Speaker 1: been blessed more than I deserve. And I look at
Speaker 1: the ys of those kids, and that's how they feel.
Speaker 1: They feel like I am living a dream that hundreds
Speaker 1: of thousands of kids over all these years and all
Speaker 1: these leagues and all these games and teams and from
Speaker 1: high school just think their parents took them from from
Speaker 1: when they're just little guys and gals, you know, at
Speaker 1: five and six years old, to practice and all the
Speaker 1: times they shot baskets in their backyard, you know, on
Speaker 1: their on their own driveway, and and then for them
Speaker 1: to make it there that almost because the NBA is
Speaker 1: so nebulous and so like unrealistic, to make it into
Speaker 1: that tournament and to work your way through the tournament.
Speaker 1: That really is the dream of all college, of all
Speaker 1: all kids who play basketball, is can I make it
Speaker 1: into that tournament and be as something, you know, part
Speaker 1: of something that is so much bigger than me and
Speaker 1: something that just funnels all my hopes and dreams into
Speaker 1: one three week area and and that is so fun
Speaker 1: to be a part of. To watch that, well, I
Speaker 1: can't wait to hear you. Sorry, And I'm going to
Speaker 1: give you a little prediction. It's a homework. Do do
Speaker 1: do it with my guy Jericho Sims. I've watched next game.
Speaker 1: There's times where he looks like he could take a
Speaker 1: coin off the top of the backboard. So I know
Speaker 1: the big guys don't always fare well, but just I'm
Speaker 1: just calling it now, keep a good eye on my
Speaker 1: man Jericho Sims. That may come out in our broadcast.
Speaker 1: There's a matter of fact they made that made that
Speaker 1: may slip out there a little bit. That'll be a
Speaker 1: shameless plug and and uh and and bring you out
Speaker 1: into the uh into the national consciousness on that Saturday
Speaker 1: night platform. I'm gonna keep that in mind. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: you can plug you know, this week I was on
Speaker 1: the bed MGM Unleashed podcast. They have two amazing hosts.
Speaker 1: That'd be that'd be good. But last time, Jerry, you
Speaker 1: don't know this. Last time I said to Dad, oh,
Speaker 1: you should slip this in the broadcast a regular season game.
Speaker 1: He said, b E t MGM spelled out the whole thing.
Speaker 1: So I think now he's got it. Dad. We have
Speaker 1: taken up too much of your time, and I know
Speaker 1: my mother is probably wanting you back to join her
Speaker 1: for lunch or something. So thank you so much. As
Speaker 1: you've seen it's got dark here in London. Since we've
Speaker 1: been here, it has It is amazing. I feel like
Speaker 1: we're family, Jerry, because we see you in Olivia every
Speaker 1: week with this great show. And to hear her talk
Speaker 1: about you and how much he's enjoyed being with you
Speaker 1: and co hosting this and being a pro with you
Speaker 1: is very gratifying for a father. So I enjoy you
Speaker 1: both very much. And I'll be watching and I'll be
Speaker 1: listening and enjoying. All right. You know when you hear
Speaker 1: that music, we are about to dig into entreage. So Jerry,
Speaker 1: I'm season seven, episode two, and what I've seen so
Speaker 1: far is your business has taken off, which has been
Speaker 1: really fun to see all the cars with Turtle and
Speaker 1: the license weight. I'm curious, do you have any of
Speaker 1: those license plates? And have you ever put one of
Speaker 1: them on your own car? Great question and also great idea.
Speaker 1: I don't have one. I wish I did. And I'm
Speaker 1: known for taking things from the set that I think
Speaker 1: we'll just hey like like I had like years ago.
Speaker 1: I wore a giant jersey on the show that said
Speaker 1: Turtle on the back. I have that jersey. I took
Speaker 1: a lot of the jersey I have, like the Kevin
Speaker 1: Garnett McDonald's all American jersey that I wore. But no,
Speaker 1: that would have been a great light. That would have
Speaker 1: been great to take. What a great idea. No, I
Speaker 1: didn't do it like an idiot. I should have. You know,
Speaker 1: you still can just next time you register a car.
Speaker 1: It's just not the same, like to know that that's
Speaker 1: where that came from. You know, it would have been
Speaker 1: great if it was like the actual from the set.
Speaker 1: I like stuff like that. So if you did do it, though,
Speaker 1: would you not like being recognized that much? Because I'm
Speaker 1: sure people know now that, like you live in Cleveland
Speaker 1: and they'd see you driving. I definitely wouldn't put it
Speaker 1: on my car. I would probably like frame it and
Speaker 1: hang it somewhere back there in the office wall of fame.
Speaker 1: I don't or give it to my mom, who is
Speaker 1: literally the biggest collector of Entourage merchandise you've ever seen.
Speaker 1: I don't know why she buys it. I tell her, Mom,
Speaker 1: I can get you some of that stuff for free.
Speaker 1: She still buys it. And you go. You walk in
Speaker 1: the house, you asked for a cup of coffee, You're
Speaker 1: getting served with an Entourage coffee mug. You want a
Speaker 1: shot of tequila, You're getting an Entourage shot glass coming
Speaker 1: at you. Nice. We've never learned. We do know your
Speaker 1: real name is Sal Salvatore, right, we don't know why Turtle, Like,
Speaker 1: what is the reason for the nickname? I could honestly
Speaker 1: say it has never been answered. I've asked Doug Ellen
Speaker 1: numerous times. He said, I have no idea. I just
Speaker 1: thought it was a funny nick name. So I don't
Speaker 1: have a great answer for that. There is a great
Speaker 1: answer for why the character's name is Sal, if you
Speaker 1: want that. So years ago one of my best childhood
Speaker 1: friends unfortunately passed away when he was about twenty two
Speaker 1: years old. Okay, and in my mind when I was
Speaker 1: even auditioning for Turtle, not that my friend was exactly
Speaker 1: like Turtle, but there's definitely more things I pulled like
Speaker 1: I was playing a version of that, like fun loving guy,
Speaker 1: love to party, just like he was that guy. A
Speaker 1: little bit. I told Doug maybe, like in season three,
Speaker 1: as a joke, you know, if Turn ever gets a
Speaker 1: real name, I'd love it to be after my friend Sal.
Speaker 1: That's who I'm playing. Doug said, yeah, yeah, sure, we'll
Speaker 1: figure out when we get there. Never discussed it again.
Speaker 1: When I got that script with Jamie Lynn where I
Speaker 1: tell her my name, I had no idea it was coming.
Speaker 1: So I was reading the script. I get to that
Speaker 1: part and I froze and I dropped the script and
Speaker 1: I was like like crippled for a second because I
Speaker 1: couldn't believe he did that as a gesture. And to
Speaker 1: this day, my friend's family like any time, Like the
Speaker 1: character's name is sal Assante, which is my friend's name.
Speaker 1: It's in like the television Hall of Fame in a way.
Speaker 1: So it's the coolest thing that anyone's ever done for me. Wow. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's heavy. Did you tear up when you actually went
Speaker 1: to film it? Oh? I was so. I was like
Speaker 1: shaking that day and I even, uh, you're gonna get
Speaker 1: to an episode or maybe it is the episode. Is
Speaker 1: the turtle character's credit card canceled? Yet it's not. It's
Speaker 1: happening right now. So I have that credit card. I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's in my wallet, but it says
Speaker 1: it's a fake credit card that says saltatur Sante on it,
Speaker 1: and I kept it. I usually keep it in my wallet. Yes, Oh,
Speaker 1: my god. Okay, that's gonna make me cry still earlier.
Speaker 1: That's a that's an amazing story. Okay, I'm loving Entourage.
Speaker 1: We're having fun with it. Season seven. I'm liking so far.
Speaker 1: You've kind of given me. The warning still stands. You
Speaker 1: haven't gotten there yet. The warning still stands more to come. Okay,
Speaker 1: you two both have beef with Miles Sanders, and he
Speaker 1: really kept both from winning some money. So I hope
Speaker 1: you don't run into him in the streets somewhere. But Pete,
Speaker 1: walk us through what you lost with Miles Sanders not
Speaker 1: scoring a touchdown. Yeah. So we had a great day
Speaker 1: in terms of picks, and we'll get to those in
Speaker 1: a second. But I had a seventy five to one
Speaker 1: shot one game parlay that would have net out a
Speaker 1: couple of grand on a fifty bet, and Miles Sanders
Speaker 1: anytime touchdown was the only thing that missed. So I
Speaker 1: had Kelsey anytime hurts, anytime, a bunch of different overs.
Speaker 1: I achieved money. Line in there. Miles Sanders the one
Speaker 1: guy who let me down, and I think he let
Speaker 1: the world down because he had a superport performance. It
Speaker 1: could have been a Miles Sanders anything anything anytime that like,
Speaker 1: give us anything at any time, give us anything like
Speaker 1: a two yards maybe it would have been great. Your
Speaker 1: prop pick was over thirteen and a half longest rush
Speaker 1: attempt and he didn't even come close to that. I
Speaker 1: think he had a six yeard run. How was it? Yeah, Jerry,
Speaker 1: what was your other prop pick? It was Bucker under
Speaker 1: one and a half field goal attempts and he only
Speaker 1: had one, which was the game winner, and he missed
Speaker 1: he joinked that other one. So you know, yeah, Sanders
Speaker 1: just didn't show up. It was tough. Overall, you did
Speaker 1: all right at the Super Bowl, Yes, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: first of all, great week with you guys, right, We
Speaker 1: got a little dolphin, We had a great dinner, you
Speaker 1: get to meet some of the bed MGM team. But
Speaker 1: as for the picks, did pretty well. So gained well
Speaker 1: over nineteen and a half rushing yards, Pacheco rushing receiving
Speaker 1: over sixty and one and a half. I don't think
Speaker 1: he even had reception yards. I think he just didn't
Speaker 1: all rushing had a great game. Davante Smith over twenty
Speaker 1: three and a half longest reception hit actually was stuck
Speaker 1: at twenty three for a while. And I was nervous,
Speaker 1: and then he had that forty five yard or that
Speaker 1: he broke away. I gave the little pick at the
Speaker 1: end two of over sixty one and a half receiving yards,
Speaker 1: that number had weirdly gone down. He hit that by
Speaker 1: forty fifty yards. The only thing we lost was well,
Speaker 1: not the Reddick flyer that we took, but Kelsey over
Speaker 1: six and a half receptions. I think he ended the six.
Speaker 1: But they didn't need him. I mean they he obviously
Speaker 1: had a couple of big plays, but everybody else was working.
Speaker 1: The refs were working at for him too, and they
Speaker 1: were using pretty much every weapon. So can I ask
Speaker 1: you roughly, you know how the book? How did the
Speaker 1: book do? Like roughly? Like dead neutral? So okay, all right,
Speaker 1: yeah it was a so let me break it down.
Speaker 1: So I think the result was good for us in
Speaker 1: terms of the Eagles losing. But when every prop hit,
Speaker 1: so I mean almost every single anytime touchdown score hit
Speaker 1: that someone would probably besides Miles Sanders, that obviously hurts
Speaker 1: us because then you start to factor in all those
Speaker 1: one game parlays that people had, so anybody had eats
Speaker 1: and Kelsey touchdown and the next thing. Um, that's what
Speaker 1: balanced the book out. But but overall it was a
Speaker 1: very much probably would have been not so great exactly.
Speaker 1: So this was I think this was the result we wanted.
Speaker 1: Gives gives all of our customers a couple of bucks
Speaker 1: going into the week, so it's a good thing. And yeah,
Speaker 1: now we pivot to two NBA and NHL and March
Speaker 1: Madness and next golf. We got golf. We got golf
Speaker 1: real quick. With the promo that you were telling us
Speaker 1: about last week, the prop bet challenge, what was the
Speaker 1: takeaway from that? I mean, not that anyone's counting, but
Speaker 1: both of mine hit, So you were the only one
Speaker 1: where both of your props hit. I think I'm telling
Speaker 1: I was like fire, Jerry went olive, guys like Kevin Garnett,
Speaker 1: I think one zero percent. So we had a really
Speaker 1: great turn out. We have two amazing winners, one in
Speaker 1: Ohio and one in Ontario. So they're being contacted today,
Speaker 1: which is amazing. They both are thousand dollars richer, which
Speaker 1: is me wow, it's not um, it is confirmed, not Jerry.
Speaker 1: No insider trading here. But we're thrilled, thrilled, and we
Speaker 1: had a great turn out. A lot of adoptions, so
Speaker 1: it's great to see and great to have two customers
Speaker 1: a hundred thousand dollars richer. I know the lines aren't
Speaker 1: out for the All Star Game this weekend in the NBA,
Speaker 1: but what are some things that are fun that people
Speaker 1: can bet on once they do come out? Take the over?
Speaker 1: It's like the game Take the over. Obviously you got
Speaker 1: all the the three point contests, the slamdown contests, so
Speaker 1: I think that's where most of the fun will lie.
Speaker 1: The game is depends how you look at it. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a pretty non appealing game for three quarters, and
Speaker 1: I think everybody turns it up a notch coming into
Speaker 1: the fourth. But when in doubt, I think just always
Speaker 1: take the over. The defense lacks the year and year,
Speaker 1: you know year, and your end just continues to drop.
Speaker 1: So I think safe that is just take the over there.
Speaker 1: So do you start looking at NFL next season? Now?
Speaker 1: I know I have a lot of friends who their
Speaker 1: work for next season starts like right at the buzzer
Speaker 1: of the game. So have you given that a look?
Speaker 1: And are you bringing anything for us today with that? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I think it starts a little bit day after
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and then probably the next iteration of it
Speaker 1: is after the draft, when you actually start to see
Speaker 1: teams form a little bit more. For me, it's great
Speaker 1: value right now. So you look at teams that either
Speaker 1: have a great team that have been priced weirdly. Maybe
Speaker 1: they have a great team, they're missing a piece and
Speaker 1: the anticipation this year is that they will get that piece.
Speaker 1: So if I start with the Jets only five to one,
Speaker 1: they have a pretty good team. They obviously have offensive
Speaker 1: and defensive rookies of the year in Sauce Gardner and
Speaker 1: Karatt Wilson, so they have weapons, Robert Salo's defense, ken Ball.
Speaker 1: They're missing a quarterback. I think all the rumors around
Speaker 1: the world are is it Derek Carr, Is it Aaron Rodgers?
Speaker 1: They're going to get someone. They also have the I
Speaker 1: think the tenth or thirteenth overall pick this year, so
Speaker 1: they have a fairly high pick in the draft. So
Speaker 1: you start putting all that together to one, then you
Speaker 1: get Aaron Rodgers drops the fifteen or twelve to one,
Speaker 1: something like that. I'm still yeah, I saw that, and
Speaker 1: it definitely was puzzling at first, but you just broke
Speaker 1: it down elegantly because I do think that, yeah, they're
Speaker 1: the quarterback away, but we're still talking about very experienced
Speaker 1: head coach, very young team. You know, maybe if it's Rogers,
Speaker 1: I get you think it drops that low. If it's Rogers,
Speaker 1: get hit, it gets like twelve or fifteen to one,
Speaker 1: Like it it was Derek Carr. I think you can
Speaker 1: put it up forty to one if it's Derek Carr. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it might go the other ways, right, But I think
Speaker 1: to your point, there's still the Jets. It's still an
Speaker 1: inexperienced coach. I think it's pure value. So you just
Speaker 1: have to look at it in that sense that you're
Speaker 1: getting something that will eventually change value in a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks or a couple of months. I'm gonna keep
Speaker 1: an eye on that. I just refused to put money
Speaker 1: on the Jet to win the Super Bowl as a
Speaker 1: Giants fan. I just refused. Okay, what else? What else?
Speaker 1: Is one of these three? You'll love? So Jets one,
Speaker 1: Dolphins thirty to one, another intriguing one. They have a
Speaker 1: very very well built out team, especially on the offensive side.
Speaker 1: I think there's just a lot of question marks around
Speaker 1: to uh, his health, where does he go? Does he
Speaker 1: stay committed to football. With all the injuries, the scary injuries.
Speaker 1: He had again the team that if they decided to
Speaker 1: roll the dice and make a big splash from from
Speaker 1: a quarterback point of view, they're probably a favorite in
Speaker 1: the in the a f C. What splash could that be?
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of that. I'm with you on that because
Speaker 1: they're their roster on both sides of the ball is
Speaker 1: really really strong and really like, if it's a healthy
Speaker 1: toa and we know where you know, then yes, I
Speaker 1: think that that's a thirty to one. I think you'd
Speaker 1: be a fool not to sprinkle a little bit. But
Speaker 1: in the event that it's not to h you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've never heard anything about Rogers to Miami, right,
Speaker 1: Jimmy G Like, what who's the I think you have
Speaker 1: to consider the money. Obviously, they're paying to rekill what
Speaker 1: thirty million a year, so their budget, their budget is
Speaker 1: not the same as the Jets or someone else. Brady
Speaker 1: as an example, would have been a great offer. I
Speaker 1: think you're not a low value. He doesn't retire. He
Speaker 1: comes in playing with you, rekaill, playing with lots of weapons.
Speaker 1: But to your point, well, he's not there. It's it's
Speaker 1: probably a guy like Jimmy g is probably someone that
Speaker 1: can run an offense. I hope, I really do. I
Speaker 1: hope it's. I feel for the guy. I feel for
Speaker 1: the guy. I just I think there's probably a lot
Speaker 1: of concerns in Miami and you probably need to be
Speaker 1: at least bringing the backup because obviously as they went
Speaker 1: down the depth chart, that's when there's their season kind
Speaker 1: of turned for the worst. All Right, where's this one
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna like? Because so far those are okay?
Speaker 1: I'm with you on the fins, But where's the one
Speaker 1: I'm gonna like a lot? So your Seattle Seahawks, Yes, Si,
Speaker 1: that is a crazy price for a team that made
Speaker 1: the playoffs are only getting better. They're probably going to
Speaker 1: re up Chino. But I think there's an important piece
Speaker 1: to all this. They got a lot back for Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson last year, including a top five pick, so they're
Speaker 1: gonna be drafting I think twice in the first picks
Speaker 1: of the draft this year. They're going to get a
Speaker 1: skilled playmaker. They have some money to spend. Again, do
Speaker 1: I think the Seahawks are gonna win the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: Probably not. But that's a that's a jerry for our
Speaker 1: a lottery tickets, specially the Yeah, maybe they trade they
Speaker 1: could trade up with two picks. They could they could
Speaker 1: trade back. They could do a lot with those picks.
Speaker 1: And to me, like, no disrespect to your Niners, who
Speaker 1: are still the team to beat in that division, but
Speaker 1: definitely an unstable quarterback position for right now. I mean,
Speaker 1: we love Pertie, you know we're waiting on Lance. But
Speaker 1: I do think the Rams might have a little bit
Speaker 1: to say. I just can't imagine McVeigh just go like
Speaker 1: coming back for another year of what we just witnessed,
Speaker 1: because I don't think you would be down for that. So,
Speaker 1: but I don't know what division is wide open to
Speaker 1: me still a little bit. All three of those teams
Speaker 1: to me have a chance to obviously make the playoffs
Speaker 1: and make it make somewhat of a run. The Cardinals
Speaker 1: have zero shot there in turmoil with Kyler out for
Speaker 1: at least what at least probably half the year, Kingsbury out,
Speaker 1: I mean that team yeah, full rebuilders, right, So Seahawks one,
Speaker 1: I think again, they do a good job in the draft,
Speaker 1: they do a good job in free agency. That number
Speaker 1: goes to fifty. That number goes the forty, it probably
Speaker 1: never goes to one. But um, with Pete Carroll and
Speaker 1: the way you coached that team, a team that was
Speaker 1: supposed to win what four and a half games, I
Speaker 1: think you sprinkle a little on that one. Love it,
Speaker 1: love it. Hope they get Gino back to get a
Speaker 1: non exclusive tag coming up, that's like next week February
Speaker 1: twenty one is when they can start negotiating that. He
Speaker 1: could become a free agent March fifteen if they don't.
Speaker 1: So that's something to watch too before you make that bet.
Speaker 1: I think yeah, totally. But as far as golf tournaments
Speaker 1: coming up this weekend, what do you like? So Genesis
Speaker 1: is this weekend exciting tournament at Riviera in California. So
Speaker 1: I'll start with the Cali guys. So Max Homa he
Speaker 1: won right absolutely, if you haven't seen from a couple
Speaker 1: of seasons ago, he's one of those guys that's firing
Speaker 1: on all cylinders. He's instituted himself, is probably a top
Speaker 1: fifteen golfer. Like I said, he won the tournament two
Speaker 1: years ago. Means a lot to him, especially this is
Speaker 1: kind of Tiger's tournament him growing up such a huge
Speaker 1: Tiger fan. He's twenty two one. That's a great price
Speaker 1: for a guy who's won only two years ago. And
Speaker 1: I think four out of six of Max's PGA Tour
Speaker 1: wins actually happened in the state of California, so something
Speaker 1: about going home. He loves to win and loves to
Speaker 1: show up, So Homa two one, I think is a
Speaker 1: great beat. You can also sprinkle some top five, top
Speaker 1: ten bets that we haven't bet him gym as well,
Speaker 1: But I think taking him out right and then playing
Speaker 1: a little bit of the hedge team as things get
Speaker 1: closer into the weekend is is kind of my route.
Speaker 1: And then I'm gonna take three guys here that all
Speaker 1: looked really good, especially at TPC Scots Now last weekend
Speaker 1: at the Waste Management start with Justin Thomas sixteen to one,
Speaker 1: especially on the back half of the round probably Saturday
Speaker 1: and Sunday. He was driving the ball as good as anyone,
Speaker 1: and he is a top five golfer. He has a
Speaker 1: great short game. I think he's played well at Rivera
Speaker 1: but in the past, so sixteen to one again seems
Speaker 1: like a fairly aggressive price. I had probably looked at
Speaker 1: him in somewhere around ten to one, so again a
Speaker 1: value picked there with j T. A little home cooking
Speaker 1: for me with my guy, Kegan Bradley six to one,
Speaker 1: a guy who was in the top ten for most
Speaker 1: of TPC Scottsdale, most of the waste management first two
Speaker 1: three days looked really good. He's always had concerns around
Speaker 1: his potter and was putting really really well. So again
Speaker 1: a six one flyer I think makes lots of sense.
Speaker 1: And then the pick that makes no sense to me,
Speaker 1: Scottie Scheffler, is only ten to one. This guy does
Speaker 1: nothing but win, and even last week he looked really
Speaker 1: bad in this last round on Sunday and still managed
Speaker 1: to win by a couple of strokes. By far, the
Speaker 1: best golfer right now has been for the last probably
Speaker 1: eight to ten months, and I expect him to just
Speaker 1: continue to pump out top five finishes and he'll be
Speaker 1: there at the end of this at Riviera. So ten
Speaker 1: to one when he probably should be somewhere around five
Speaker 1: or six to one, I think makes a lot of
Speaker 1: logical sense. He'll fix some of the kinks that he
Speaker 1: had where he had a poor round on Sunday, and
Speaker 1: he'll be backfiring this weekend. To me, this is like
Speaker 1: the beginning of golf season. You know, the Super Bowl ends,
Speaker 1: we get the Waste Management Phoenix Open, and now we
Speaker 1: go right into the California kind of swing, which takes
Speaker 1: us right into the Master, so golf season to start. Look,
Speaker 1: I'm excited because Tiger Woods is playing. I know that
Speaker 1: just is the best thing for golf that could happen,
Speaker 1: of course, but realistically we haven't seen him play a
Speaker 1: non major and two years, three years, so I don't
Speaker 1: think we could really put any I think he's a
Speaker 1: ten thousand to one or something to win whatever. But
Speaker 1: bet MGM does have some interesting Round one Tiger Woods
Speaker 1: specials that I want to throw at you guys. I
Speaker 1: find a few of these really interesting. First one is
Speaker 1: bogey free, which is plus twenty two hundred. I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna make a bogie. Let's just say, I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna make a bogie, eagle or birdie the first
Speaker 1: hole minus two. I'm gonna stay away on that. The
Speaker 1: ones I like a lot to make an eagle plus
Speaker 1: seven hundred. This is still Tiger Woods. We might get
Speaker 1: a lot of bogies, but he always kind of bounces
Speaker 1: back and then to me, what I mean four or
Speaker 1: more birdie's plus one twenty. I think that's a great bet.
Speaker 1: And then to shoot and this is again there is
Speaker 1: only round one to shoot seven year lower plus one forty.
Speaker 1: I think those are some strong I gotta have a
Speaker 1: little tiger Woods action on this, on this tournament. I
Speaker 1: just have to have it. Yeah, totally. I think the
Speaker 1: last three make a ton of sense to me. You
Speaker 1: probably show concerns from him if he makes the cut
Speaker 1: going into at Her in Sunday, when his body starts
Speaker 1: wearing down a little bit. But first round he's gonna
Speaker 1: be driving the ball. Well, he's gonna have eagle doble
Speaker 1: holes where he's driving into or you know, hitting the
Speaker 1: green into. So I love that. I think the birdie
Speaker 1: one is my favorite out of all those, because to
Speaker 1: your point, he's gonna pump out birdies. He's gonna hit
Speaker 1: bogies and birdies, bogeis and berries. But all he needs
Speaker 1: to do is go to three under to hit you know,
Speaker 1: sixty nine are better. So that's not a crazy ask,
Speaker 1: especially early in the round, especially at one of his tournaments.
Speaker 1: So I love those first three probably like you would
Speaker 1: stay away from the first two of bogey free and
Speaker 1: eagling the Bertie or eagle in the first hole. Let's
Speaker 1: I think historically the first tea box has been some
Speaker 1: of those ones that have been like WHOA, where did
Speaker 1: that drive? Later in his career, not early in his career.
Speaker 1: You know, I think the first tea box has always
Speaker 1: been not necessarily a carry over from the range. Pete,
Speaker 1: you had a great year. I thought, all in all,
Speaker 1: you started off the football season it was a little
Speaker 1: rough in places, but you got you got real hot,
Speaker 1: and I thought you finished strong. All in all, I
Speaker 1: would say you were a playoff team. I don't think
Speaker 1: you won the Super Bowl this year, but I think
Speaker 1: you were a strong playoff team. You might have even
Speaker 1: gotten out of the first round. First of all, it's
Speaker 1: a wee. It's not an eye here. You guys carried me.
Speaker 1: We had a couple of blips. We had to Jerry.
Speaker 1: I always think of this like turning point of the season,
Speaker 1: where it is I had to put that big Chalky
Speaker 1: that was like my we hired Jeff Saturday kind of game.
Speaker 1: And we have four biggest favorites of the week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you gotta listen. You gotta hit the bottom sometimes
Speaker 1: to work your way up. I think I just made
Speaker 1: that up, but it really did help me to just
Speaker 1: getting out that first one out of the way. Then
Speaker 1: we started hitting one game parlays. We started having plus
Speaker 1: ten unit weeks. So big credit to you guys for
Speaker 1: keeping me keep me up there, all right, Pete. It's
Speaker 1: always a pleasure. It's even more fun in person. So
Speaker 1: we hope we can do this all again soon. Yeah, absolutely, guys,
Speaker 1: take care, all right. Fun, So you guys, the big
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Speaker 1: just sign our football. It was a great, great season.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss you every Sunday. Now. I'm going to
Speaker 1: be at the playground this Sunday at one o'clock probably
Speaker 1: is the weather gets warmer, so r I P the
Speaker 1: Sunday's l O L. He thinks we're done talking about
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