1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: My boyfriend finally moved in with me, but he treats 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: me like a maid. Since moving in with my boyfriend, 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: I have somehow become the only one doing kitchen duty, 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: well most duties. Actually. I do all the laundry. I 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: take the trash out to the bins, do all the 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: cleaning in the bathroom. I dust the furniture. By the way, 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: this comes from pillow Princess all on the arslash Okay 8 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: storytimes subreddit. But it seems like you're not a pillow 9 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: princess in the kitchen duties. 10 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 2: This is true. 11 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: Then the kitchen duties, I do all grocery shopping. I 12 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 1: make the menu. I do all the cooking and then 13 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: do the dishes and clean the sink encounters. I feed 14 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: and water the cats and dogs. The cats are his. 15 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: He does lawn duty. We live in a condo with 16 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: a twenty square foot yard and half of it is 17 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: clipped in concrete. 18 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: He has a patch of grass. He goes, sh okay done. Yeah. 19 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: He gets like a pair of scissors and he clips it. Yeah, 20 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: and then he walks away. He's like, listen't it look great? 21 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: Toe clippers and he swiffs the floor a couple times 22 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: a week. Everything else is on me. We both work 23 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: full time time and split the bills evenly. I actually 24 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: work more than him. He works four to ten hour 25 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: ships a week when I work six' eight hour. Shifts, 26 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: obviously this is now starting to cause lots of. RESENTMENT 27 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: i have tried just not doing, things but they don't get. 28 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 1: DONE i can't live in, filth AND i won't let 29 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: his cat suffer because he doesn't notice the bowls are 30 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: empty or the litter box is gross and, full SO 31 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: i break down and do. IT i have tried asking 32 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: him to do. Things they still don't get, done or 33 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: at least not in a timely. Fashion he has forgotten 34 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: to take the trash bins to the, curb causing us 35 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: to have an excess amount of bags for a, week 36 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: or the leftovers out all night causing them to spoil 37 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: WHEN i asked him to put the food in the. 38 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: Tupperware that is so. FRUSTRATING a month, AGO i was super. 39 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: FRUSTRATED i was working second shift instead of first LIKE 40 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: i normally, do because a coworker had a childcare emergency 41 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: AND i was being. NICE i was coming home from 42 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: work at ten, pm super, hungry and of course my 43 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: boyfriend hadn't made, dinner and he has the nerve to 44 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: complain about being star being when he's been home for five. Hours, 45 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: dude man can't cook his own dinner when his wife 46 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: or when his girlfriend's out until ten. 47 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 3: Pm we imagine we have the. Technology we have it called. 48 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 4: Eggs call me make Cerealal. 49 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, boy dinner is. Cereal it's so. 50 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 4: True, no, yes boy dinner three pounds of ground. 51 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: Beef boy dinner. 52 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 1: Is either a steak or you just eat a steak or. 53 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: Sirious you. KNOW i went on this yeah, yeah cereal last, Night, yes. 54 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: A little the, time even making something. Simple we weren't 55 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: eating till eleven thirty or, so and then he was 56 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: going straight to, bed leaving me with cleaning up and 57 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: putting the leftovers. AWAY i ended up telling my boyfriend 58 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: how crazy STRESSED i was keeping up with everything in the. 59 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: HOUSEHOLD i felt, pathetic BUT i was basically begging him 60 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: to make things more. Equal he seemed to understand and 61 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: promised to do, more and for a couple of weeks 62 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: he kind of. Did he made the grocery order clean 63 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: the litter boxes old for us, twice but that didn't 64 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: last for long and SOMEHOW i still was responsible for 65 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 1: reminding him to help or assigning him these. Jobs, pausing 66 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: real quick pause. IT i think solution here is not 67 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: necessarily break, up BUT i think you should not live. 68 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: Together you could break. UP i think the solution right 69 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: now is either break up or don't live. Together if 70 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: if you constantly remind him and none of these things 71 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 1: are being. 72 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 3: Met that's true because right now they're like dating like 73 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 3: boyfriend girlfriend relationship Does that is a good point because 74 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 3: and also LIKE i feel like this boils down to 75 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 3: like op he's, like, oh he doesn't, clean he doesn't 76 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 3: help to. 77 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 2: Me it boils down to or respect. 78 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 3: Thing, yeah of like he is not respecting all the 79 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 3: work that she's putting, In. 80 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: Like she's working until ten, pm working until ten. 81 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 3: Pm she's like even if he's doing some of the, 82 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 3: work she's still like the one responsible and carrying the 83 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 3: mental weight of like his. 84 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 2: Cats for, example his, cat what did he do? BEFORE 85 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 2: i don't? Know how are they? Alive? 86 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: WELL i think sometimes either he was just living in you, 87 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: know filthy, conditions or sometimes when you have a new 88 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: person move, in you kind of start putting everything on 89 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: them and you're, like, oh, WELL i don't need to 90 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: do it because they'll do. 91 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 3: It, yeah he's like naturally like lazy step, back not 92 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 3: taking responsibility for, stuff and she and he's, like, oh 93 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 3: she's she's doing he might, Not and in his offense 94 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 3: maybe he doesn't even cognitively notice it like that and is, 95 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 3: like you, know he he, He i'm going to get 96 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 3: her to do. 97 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 2: It but at the, still at the end of the, 98 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 2: day he's. Not she has. 99 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 3: Communicated to him very clearly and, directly, yes this is what's, 100 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 3: up and he's not not doing. 101 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: It SO i think it's either break up or don't live. 102 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 1: Together cauzes ain't. 103 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: Working good. Idea but what Happens. 104 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: This last, week my boyfriend has been on vacation from. 105 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: Work he had so MUCH pto racked up that he 106 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 1: had to take time off because he couldn't earn. ANYMORE 107 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: i still worked my normal forty eight hours six am 108 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: to two. PM i was getting home from work around 109 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: two thirty to hear my boyfriend complain about being hungry 110 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: and asking for me to make some. Lunch, lunch not, lunch, 111 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: boy you're not even. Working she just finished off bull 112 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:01,799 Speaker 1: shift and you're not even working. 113 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 4: Well while she's already up and at it not as. 114 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 2: Well we'll just do that. 115 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: Too this has completely set me, off And i've lost 116 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: so much attraction to. HIM i refuse every, time causing 117 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: him to have an attitude with. Me WHEN i got 118 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: off work, YESTERDAY i was exhausted and fell asleep on the. 119 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: Couch we had discussed the day before we would be 120 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: having burgers that night for, dinner something he likes to 121 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: make and that are actually really good when he. Does 122 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: BUT i woke up at seven pm to him playing 123 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: video games in our bedroom and asking when's. DINNER i 124 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: left him to game and pattied myself a, burger write, 125 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: it and ate my supper alone at the kitchen. TABLE 126 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: i cleaned up my mess and sat down in the 127 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,119 Speaker 1: living room to watch SOME. Tv sometime, later he comes 128 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: out and again asks whe's? Dinner are you still making? 129 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: BURGERS i told HIM i wasn't feeling good and not. 130 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: Hungry he ended up just eating some effing chips and, 131 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: salsa too lazy to even make a frozen. Pizza we 132 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: go to, bed and this morning he complains about being, 133 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: starving asking for pam cakes or something more filling for 134 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: breakfast than cereal since you didn't get. DINNER i don't 135 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: know how much longer this can go on and there 136 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: is an. 137 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 4: UPDATE i, uh never imagine doing this to my. Girlfriend. 138 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: Ridiculous ridiculously WHAT i did this? 139 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: Weekend what'd you? 140 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 4: DO i heard earlier in the week last week that 141 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 4: my girlfriend was, like, ah LIKE i need to make 142 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 4: more time to like meal. 143 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 2: Prep and guess WHAT i. Did i'm ill. 144 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 4: PREPPED i listened And i'm ill prepped all like for 145 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 4: two hours On. Sunday she has food AND i have, 146 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 4: food and it's. 147 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: Great, YEAH i feel, like look at, That how hard is? 148 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 3: THAT i feel like it's really there's like two, things 149 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 3: one as long as you are like a self sufficient 150 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 3: adult and two as long as, like even if maybe 151 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 3: one person isn't as good, at you, KNOW i don't 152 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 3: know putting away the. 153 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 2: Dis we all have our, faults, right but it is 154 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 2: great at putting away the. Dishes some people not so. 155 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 3: Much BUT i feel like one person, says, hey could 156 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 3: you like help pull you, away especially especially in a. Relationship, 157 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 3: yeah you're living. Together, hey here's the. Situation could you 158 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 3: help a little bit more than you do? 159 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 2: It you know? 160 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 3: IT i feel like he's so disrespectful to, her, incredibly incredibly. 161 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: Disrespectful break, up break, up get him out of. There 162 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: but let's get into this update and see if she 163 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: does that. Update, sunday my boyfriend AND i had a 164 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: lengthy discussion about the household. INEQUALITY i once again stressed 165 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: with him how OVERWORKED i, was THAT i was losing 166 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: attraction to, him THAT i was rethinking of future because 167 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: being his mom was never something THAT i wanted to. 168 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: Do my boyfriend finally seemed to get that this was 169 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: a make it or break it. Situation he confided that 170 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: he enjoyed being spoiled by me and apologized for taking. 171 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: Advantage he cried over the thought of losing. Me he 172 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: promised to do more without, asking and even swore to 173 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: start putting together a chore list on to. Today this, 174 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: morning my boyfriend AND i were getting ready for, work 175 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: and he asked me IF i would be okay making 176 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: dinner tonight because he was planning on mowing and weeding after. 177 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: WORK a little patch of. Grass, yep your little patch of. 178 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: GRASS i think he's going to someone's. WORDS i, agreed 179 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: ALTHOUGH i was thinking that he should have mowed this, 180 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: weekend especially since the last four. Days he, Said i'm 181 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: gonna mode, tonight but it needs, doing so. Whatever he 182 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: then made a comment about how it makes sense for 183 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: you to make dinners most days. ANYWAY i asked why 184 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: he figured, that and he reasoning was THAT i get 185 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: off work. EARLIER i just kind of laughed and asked 186 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: if that means he will be on dinner and dishes 187 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: his three days, off and he made some kind of 188 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: remark about it being nice if he could have one 189 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: day free to himself a week and his Hobby saturday 190 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: that can keep him out. Late what is this man's logic? 191 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: Here he doesn't get. It it's. 192 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: Ridiculous he's, like, oh it just makes more sense for 193 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: you to cook dinners because you come home early. Earlier 194 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: but also the days When i'm not, working those are 195 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: kind of my days, off you. 196 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 3: Know also just to, note like her workdays start at six, 197 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 3: am Which i'm sorry if you're even if you get 198 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 3: like you're roughly amounted the same as. Sleep i'm just 199 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 3: tired IF i wake up, earlier even IF i get like. 200 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 1: The, now even IF i got about at, ten and 201 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: IF i wake up at six, Am i'm, hard. Right, 202 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: yeah this really pissed me. Off because who got off 203 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: work earlier doesn't. Matter WHEN i worked the second shift last, 204 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: month and he gets home before five, thirty so it's 205 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: not like he couldn't relax for an hour or so before, 206 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: cooking AND i will never have a free day to, 207 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: myself plus since moving in. Together anytime we argue about 208 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: him not, contributing his reasoning IS i get off work, 209 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: earlier not taking into account THAT i worked two more 210 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: days than. Him it was obvious then that he really 211 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 1: hadn't learned. ANYTHING i told him so and started crying 212 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: because that's WHEN i REALIZED i was done and it was. 213 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 2: Over, Good Good. 214 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: GOD i didn't want to have that conversation right before 215 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: going to. Work so Tonight i'll be officially ending our. 216 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: Relationship but you can keep joining us live every weekday 217 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: at THREE. Pmpst just tap our. 218 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 2: Profile we'll break up with. 219 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: Us So i've been pretty useless at work, today making 220 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: phone calls and preparing my next. MOVE i sent an 221 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: email to my old. Boss i'm sure if they have 222 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: any positions, open he would be glad to have me, 223 00:09:58,200 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: back and a friend has been nice enough to all 224 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: for me her spare room until my boyfriend's lease runs. Out, 225 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: unfortunately my landlord was not willing to remove me from 226 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: my lease because he doesn't think a boyfriend can pay 227 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: for it. Himself So i'm just preparing to send him 228 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: half a frint Until, february but as soon AS i 229 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: have employment lined up back, Home i'll be moving. Out until, 230 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: Then i'm cool sleeping on an air mattress in our spare. 231 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 1: Room i'm very SAD i loved, him still. Do this 232 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: is my first time moving in with a, boyfriend AND 233 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 1: i THOUGHT i did everything, right like we didn't, rush 234 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: waited a year and ten months to take this, step 235 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: and made sure he could take care of his crat without, 236 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: Me but it still ended up this. 237 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 3: Way so it kind of sounds like to your point from, 238 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 3: earlier it seemed like she was already like thinking in 239 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 3: that mindset of, like, okay let's not rush, it and still. 240 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: It ended up like this, ridiculous, ridiculous. 241 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 2: Ridiculous but you know it's not. 242 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: Ridiculous what this next story. 243 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 3: Maybe we are, correct could be actually it could be. 244 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 3: Ridiculous it's be, Ridiculous so watch your. 245 00:10:58,160 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: Mouth, yeah you're, RIGHT i jumped. 246 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 2: Ahead don't lie to, Me, Okay like the girlfriend in 247 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: the first. 248 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: STORY i swear you won't see an egg plant emoji 249 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: in that? 250 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 2: Story got? HIM i deleted. It let's do. It my 251 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 2: husband is a man. Child DID i just walk? 252 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 3: Away SO i thirty eight, female have been with my 253 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 3: husband thirty nine nail for over twenty, years married for, 254 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 3: twelve and we have two kids to a male five. 255 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 3: Female by the, way this comes From Terrible cat nineteen eighty. 256 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 3: Five are on the artsised, okay story, time sub. Redd 257 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 3: it's a direct one of. 258 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 2: You this is one of. Us shout out, You Terrible. 259 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 3: Cat SO i went to give my husband a hug 260 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 3: and appreciate him for getting a big gift for my 261 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 3: son For. Christmas it's, heavy SO i couldn't do. It 262 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 3: WHEN i, APPROACHED i caught him vaping in front of his. 263 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 3: Computer now for, context when we got together and, DATED 264 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 3: i told him he KNEW i have an issue with smoking. 265 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 3: ANYTHING i have family members who died of lung cancer from, 266 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 3: smoking and it severely bothers. ME i told him SMOKING siggs. 267 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 2: Was a deal. 268 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 3: Breaker back, then vaping was not yet a. Thing, overall 269 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 3: my husband's lifestyle is very. Unhealthy he has a sedentary. 270 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 3: Job he comes home after the kid's bedtime to game 271 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 3: until three am every. Morning THEN i have to get 272 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 3: the kids and him out of bed every morning at 273 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 3: seven am for. School he naps as soon as he gets. 274 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 3: HOME i take care of all the kids, needs packing, 275 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 3: lunches registering them for, extracurriculars, homework, help managing our finance's laundry, 276 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 3: appartments paperwork for his my special needs. 277 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 2: Son literally. Everything what is he? Doing my brain is 278 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 2: spinning just reading that. 279 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: List, yeah that was so much stuff and it sounds 280 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: like he. 281 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: Gamed IF i have to leave the house for a few, 282 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 3: HOURS i set up kids with snacks and packed. MEALS 283 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 3: i KNOW i, shouldn't but IF i, don't he will 284 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 3: feed them nuggets and goldfish and then tell me it's, fine. 285 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: Not even giving them a veggie. 286 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: Goldfish hey. 287 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 3: Goldfish he will watch the kids IF i need to 288 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 3: run errands or go, out but his version of that 289 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 3: is putting them in front of a screen so he can. 290 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 2: Game he's, like, chat come watch me, game yat hey? 291 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: Chat can you watch my kids on my? 292 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 3: Game could he just, like could you drop a big 293 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 3: dono if they start? 294 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: Choking or something like one of those ticktoks where people 295 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: will leave like a, dog or they're, like, hey can 296 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: you watch my dog and make sure you like a 297 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: stranger or. 298 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 2: Something like to, like it's a. 299 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: Video, sorry, okay so imagine your millions of. People, yes 300 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: And i'm one person making a. Video i'm, chat, hey, 301 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: chat can you can you watch this this cup and 302 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 1: make sure you know no one takes? It and then 303 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: someone comes in and takes, it and then they come back. 304 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 2: And be, like, chat, oh that's like the, whole that's the. 305 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: Stick and so that would be him with. It he's, like, 306 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: chat can you watch my? 307 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 2: Kids someone just coming kid naps. Them he's, like where 308 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 2: do they? Go they, Go, chat your, fault that's legally. 309 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 2: Binding let's find my kids go to the. 310 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 3: Map oh my. God he will not supervise, them and 311 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 3: even when they were, little he would fall asleep Watching 312 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 3: slash supervising. Them my husband is also, overweight which isn't 313 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 3: a problem except he also snores a, lot so my 314 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 3: sleep is constantly interrupted and if the kids get, UP 315 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 3: i am the only one who gets up with. Them 316 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 3: he drinks beers and eats on. Healthily and to ADD 317 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 3: i know that he's ALSO adhd and struggles with getting 318 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 3: that dopamine So i'm not against the idea that he needs, 319 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 3: advice but at this POINT i feel like he's getting 320 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 3: vices in everything unhealthy instead of going into therapy or 321 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 3: inquiring about possible medication FOR. 322 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: Adhd once, again it is an, explanation but not an. 323 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: Excuse he needs to be putting in work to find 324 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: ways that work for, him. 325 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: Big, facts and not put it on. You that's. 326 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 3: RIGHT i feel less and less attracted to, him and 327 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 3: he gets upset BECAUSE i don't. Doubt i'm burnt out and. 328 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 3: FRUSTRATED i don't want to go through divorce right now 329 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 3: BECAUSE i don't want to split custody and our finance 330 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 3: slash house is tied. Together WHAT i want Is reddit 331 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 3: to read through this and off for their. Advice that's 332 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 3: what we're here. 333 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 2: For that's what we. 334 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 3: Gotcha i'd like to share this thread with him so 335 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 3: he can hear other people's opinions outside my. 336 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 2: Own key won't change for, me and even. 337 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 3: If he tries, it lasts a few weeks and goes 338 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 3: back to the same, old same. OLD i have a 339 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 3: lot of, resentment and he said That i'm controlling and 340 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 3: a nag that runs his. 341 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 2: LIFE i have expressed to him that. 342 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 3: This is a result of him not following through or 343 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 3: being consistent and caring for our. Kids he is welcome 344 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 3: to leave and leave the single, life but why would 345 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 3: he WHEN i do everything? Anyways bottom line is THAT 346 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 3: i can't. 347 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 2: Trust him to be a good. 348 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 3: PARTNER i can see that my accepting this is just enabling. 349 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 3: HIM i get, it but there's absolutely some trauma bonding 350 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 3: that happened. Here my parents were, abusive so my standard 351 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 3: WHEN i was married was to choose someone that wouldn't 352 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 3: hurt me rather than an equal. Partner by the, way 353 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 3: we're live every day three pm on. YouTube come join 354 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 3: us like right. NOW i know from his point of, 355 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 3: View i'm constantly reminding him of, things even sometimes as 356 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 3: he is just about to do, them and this can 357 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 3: be AN adhd rejection sensitive dysphoria. 358 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: TRIGGER i also. 359 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 3: Want things done a certain standard of care for my, 360 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 3: kids not just something that's quote unquote. Fine again by 361 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 3: his sin now gets A goldfish. Standard the Golden fish. 362 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 3: Standard my husband can only see the vaping as the, 363 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 3: problem BUT i think it's a symptom of a bigger. 364 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 3: Issue can someone tell me IF i am the a hole? 365 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 2: HERE i think it's a lot to discuss Your. Sophia, 366 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 2: yeah it really. 367 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 3: Is there really really, is BECAUSE i think we approach 368 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 3: this fine line of like when is someone a doing 369 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 3: something destructive to, themselves but more, so when is it 370 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 3: disruptive to. 371 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 2: The relationship or the, family care of their, children care 372 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 2: of the. Family what are your? 373 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: THOUGHTS i think it's disruptive. NOW i think THAT. Opi 374 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: if you have told your husband multiple times and have 375 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: that conversation with him Of, hey this is WHAT i, 376 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: expect this is WHAT i need from, you and this 377 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: is what our kids need from, you and he is 378 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: not receiving that in a, way like in a way 379 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: where he's actually trying to change things and trying to, 380 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: improve then the relationship cannot. PROGRESS i think unless you're 381 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: BOTH i, mean as you, said equal, partners it can't move. 382 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 3: Forward, yeah AND opi opened up the story about the, 383 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 3: vaping BUT i feel like that was more the straw 384 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 3: that broke the camel's, back and honestly not even there's 385 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 3: like that was just a tip of the, iceberg but 386 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 3: the real stuff was like all this, Stuff, Yeah i'm. 387 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 1: Just not listening to you and not really caring about 388 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: your your thoughts and. Feelings, yeah you could do. 389 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 4: Too what my mom did to my brother here we 390 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 4: go was check his blood levels and be, Like, okay 391 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 4: your iron is, down YOUR b twelve is. Down we'll 392 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 4: get you supplements and get you more. Energy that's a 393 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 4: SOLUTION i. 394 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: CAN i don't know WHY i thought you were gonna 395 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: say like she snuck him like pills or. 396 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 2: Something. NO i was. 397 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 3: LIKE i don't know if it's controlling or like over 398 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 3: like telling someone, like, hey you're not eating, healthy here's 399 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 3: what you should. 400 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 2: Eat you know WHAT i? Mean And, OPIE i don't Think. 401 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 3: OPIE i THINK opi actually had a very level headed 402 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 3: and respectful thing like She's she was, like, hey he is, 403 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 3: overweight which honestly isn't an issue other than he snores 404 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 3: at night and that disrupts my. 405 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 2: Sleep, yeah it. 406 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: Seems LIKE opi is only concerned when it, well is 407 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: concerned about her partner's, health but also is mainly commenting 408 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: on the parts when it kind of dips into her 409 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: life and her well. Being, yeah her children's well. 410 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 3: Being and maybe, honestly maybe it's just kind of saying 411 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 3: an altered version of what she said, here which is, like, 412 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 3: hey like you know the snoring is kind of like 413 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 3: disrupting to my, Sleep and, LIKE i don't want to 414 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 3: be like overbearing or controlling or anything like, that but 415 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 3: maybe we could look into some solutions or maybe maybe That's. 416 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: Yeah it seems like she's already. Done AND i think 417 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 1: at this, point if you had all these conversations and 418 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: nothing has, changed, yeah THEN i, LIKE i know you 419 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: said you didn't want to do, divorce BUT i feel 420 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: like you have to look at what AM i you, 421 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 1: know is this doing more harm than? Good? Yeah and 422 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 1: maybe just putting in the like FEEL i don't, know 423 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 1: not the, feelers but starting the process to divorce and 424 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: starting to kind of separate finances and doing what you 425 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: can to prepare, yourself or maybe separating for a. 426 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 3: Time, honestly maybe separating for now where it's Like, okay 427 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 3: you can live your, life but you don't have to 428 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 3: go through the divorce process. 429 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 1: Yet, yeah, immediately but it's like you're not gonna be 430 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 1: so you, know hurt by all these. 431 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 3: Things, Yeah AND i think you can, say, like like 432 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 3: even even just on the, kids for, Example, Hey i've 433 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 3: communicated that you, KNOW i want the kids to eat 434 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 3: in a certain. Way and, look granted you know parenting 435 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 3: is like a partnership and finding agreements and, stuff but, 436 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 3: LIKE i feel like she's communicated and everything in a 437 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 3: way where, it's Like i've told you many, times it 438 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 3: seems like it seems like he's not raising any, issue 439 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 3: like any legitimate. 440 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 2: Issues, no he's just being lazy. 441 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 3: Eventually or like not not respecting what she, wants which 442 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 3: IS i think, good like feeding your kids chicken nuggets 443 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 3: and goldfish every time you watch. 444 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 2: Them come, on, bro like that's. 445 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: BAD i, SAID i didn't REALIZE i could love a 446 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: person this much to my baby in front of my. 447 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 1: Fiance now he's. Hurt AM i the a? 448 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 3: Hole? 449 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 1: So nofie fifty eight twenty three, SAYS i gave birth 450 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: a few weeks ago to our. Daughter AS i held 451 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: her for the first time and looked into her, EYES i, 452 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: SAID i didn't REALIZE i could love a person this, much, 453 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: cried she is perfect and. Beautiful my mom looked at 454 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: me and said that feeling never goes, away which made 455 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: us both ugly. 456 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 2: Cry. 457 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: Lol it was a really special. Moment my fiance was 458 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: quiet but, smiled but later privately said he was. Hurt 459 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: he said he loved us both the same and me 460 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: saying that made it seem LIKE i loved our daughter 461 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: more than. Him if you live for, daughters, marcillas why 462 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: to marry? You literally is attitude. HERE i just gave 463 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: him a are you fing? Serious? Look and he dropped. 464 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: It but yesterday he brought it up. Again how do 465 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: you have beef with your newborn? 466 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 2: DAUGHTER a? 467 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 3: Baby, listen, baby listen, up ugly, Baby i'm, attractive not, you. 468 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: YEA i was into like the baby room every. Night 469 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: he's like freaking, ugly never like, you like? 470 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 2: Me just got here. 471 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 3: Like. 472 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 4: Me that's What john's gonna do with his newborns. 473 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: INCORRECT i told him, that, honestly, YES i love and 474 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 1: cherish our daughter and have never experienced this kind of 475 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: love for another human. Being he. Said most normal people 476 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: would agree with him that it's a hurtful comment and 477 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: would take offense to it due to the. Implication AM 478 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: i the a? 479 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 3: Whole? 480 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 1: No and there is an Update. 481 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 2: You're not the ahle quick? Question? 482 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 3: Yeah would he have expressed it in a way like 483 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 3: this may sound, terrible but you, KNOW i THINK i 484 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 3: got some insecurity when you know you said this to our, 485 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 3: daughter like maybe our love isn't as strong AS i 486 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 3: thought it. 487 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: Was, HONESTLY i still Think i'd be, like. 488 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 2: What Do there's nothing you can? 489 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 5: Do. 490 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 2: SUCKER i don't think this. 491 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: Is anyway you could say. This that would be like 492 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: you can't do? 493 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 4: It confusing because this is this is a product of 494 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 4: you and your most favorite, person and it's like, That, 495 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 4: yeah this is. 496 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: Like a product of your. Love, yea this is your 497 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: love squared and, create like formed into a. Person but 498 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: there is an. Update it's a quick. Update SO i 499 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: didn't feel like it was worth it to make a 500 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: whole new. Post SO i had a heart to heart 501 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: with my fiance and we came to a few conclusions. 502 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: Together it went very. Well we read through the post 503 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,959 Speaker 1: and comments. Together number, one he wasn't jealous of our 504 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: daughter's role in my, life but rather our bond. Together 505 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: he didn't have that instant love connection that we read 506 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: about all new parents having like WHAT i. EXPERIENCED i 507 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: didn't realize this was actually very normal for new dads 508 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 1: and new moms. Too thanks for educating. Me we are 509 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: the first in our social circle to have, children so 510 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 1: we didn't have a lot OF irl people to inquire about. 511 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: It his perspective IS i love this human being we, 512 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: made BUT i don't know her. WELL i was. 513 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 2: Thunderstruck, hey uh, listen, Baby you're great but. 514 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: Great but LIKE i don't really know you like, that 515 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: you know WHAT i. MEAN i don't know IF i 516 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: feel like we're going a little. FAST i don't THINK 517 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 1: i can SAY i love, You. 518 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 3: Leah, look, LOOK i know there's like dad, SON i 519 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 3: don't want to put labels on that. 520 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: Shit let's keep the casual, baby And i'm. 521 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 3: Gon we're, friends you, know like you're you're cool all but, 522 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 3: like you, know you vomited on my shirt the other. 523 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 1: Day that was, like, yeah like maybe you should lay 524 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: off the. Milk, yeah it's getting a little bit, embarrassing. 525 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 2: Dude what are you talking? 526 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 1: About he hadn't had that connection so doesn't get it, 527 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: yet and that it will take time months or even a. 528 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,959 Speaker 1: Year i'll be more patient and aware of this and 529 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: read up more on new dad experiences to learn. 530 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 4: More but doesn't he know the kid because he has 531 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 4: seen it from the beginning to, Now, no. 532 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 2: Bro i've only known you for a. 533 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 3: Month how CAN i commit to Being, yeah father son, 534 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 3: labeled But i've only been here for a. 535 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 4: Month number. 536 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: Two he also agrees he not only could have expressed that, 537 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 1: better but also choose better. Timing voicing it to me 538 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: after a fourteen hour labor and then again When i'm 539 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: exhausted and grumpy with achy boobs is maybe not the best. Time. 540 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: Lol wait wait. 541 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 2: Wait wait wait wait wait what did you? Say? 542 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: Sorry what did you? 543 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 4: SAY i said that that is so? 544 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 2: Terrible? Yeah, okay sure. 545 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: Yeah he also agrees marriage counseling would be. Great just 546 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: because we are both, opinionated logical thinking engineers who at 547 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: the same time love each other. Deeply we could use 548 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 1: better mediation other Than Reddit no offense guys number. Three 549 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: he was not furious about me writing This reddit. 550 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 2: Post. 551 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: Loll we laughed with the comments together calling for me 552 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: to get ready to break. UP i always think it's 553 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: funny when when like the people Post reddit stories and 554 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: then they're, like, YEAH i shared it with my partner 555 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: and they're laughing at the. 556 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 2: Comments the silly. Money this guy's. 557 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: LAUGHING i don't if he got this upset over he's, baby. 558 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: RIGHT i don't think he's laughing. Right but we also 559 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: really enjoyed reading the experiences of new. Parents it helped 560 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: us both feel, validated, insane and see each other's perspectives. 561 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: Better number, FOUR i showed him That Ryan reynolds video 562 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: and we both died laughing. Loll we will now be 563 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: eating a disgusting a lot of hot dogs while Watching 564 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 1: deadpool with their baby. Girl we also agreed that there's 565 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: different types of love like, parental, platonic, romantic And Ryan. 566 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: Reynolds thanks, peeps and there are some relevant comments to 567 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: finish too relevant comments to finish this soft a m, 568 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: Says Ryan reynolds agrees with. You parental love is different 569 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: than the love of a. Partner oh, p he, SAYS 570 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: i peed myself from laughing too, hard AND i do mean. 571 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 1: Literally the wonders of childbirth keep on. Giving i'll keep 572 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: this in my back. Pocket after a very lengthy heart 573 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: to heart, tonight we both Love ryan, too SO i can't. 574 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: WAIT i love how just like pivoted into A. 575 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 4: RYAN i feel Like Ryan reynolds saved their. 576 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 2: Relationship yeah, yeah. 577 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: Oh he was, like think about how you feel About Ryan, 578 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: reynolds And he's, like, wow you're, right just like how 579 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: you feel about your. BABY i can never love anyone 580 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: as much As. 581 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 2: RYAN i finally get. It, okay Since sam is not, 582 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 2: HERE i have to do. THIS i have to do. 583 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 2: This oh, boy he's known the baby for only fourteen. Hours. 584 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 3: YEAH i mean, listen if you walked up to a 585 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 3: stranger and you're, LIKE i love you more than ANY 586 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 3: i didn't more than that'd be, crazy, RIGHT i have 587 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 3: this quite frankly ugly baby been here Fourteen i'm not even. Attracted, 588 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 3: Yeah i'm not even attracted to, them you, know fourteen 589 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 3: hours old and you're over here saying, like. 590 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: Oh, WOW i love, baby just saying kind of a 591 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: punch in the, gut. 592 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 2: Kind of a punch in the gut of punch in the. Uterus, 593 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 2: YEAH i might, SAY i might say that. 594 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 3: It's, uh you, know maybe he's got a, point maybe he. 595 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 3: DOESN'T i don't know who's to. Say at the end 596 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 3: of the, Day sam is in, here SO i had. 597 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 3: TO i had to make the devil's advocate. Argument you, 598 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 3: did and you're Welcome. Sam, yeah but, guys the devil's 599 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 3: advocate argument is also that this episode is. 600 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: Over, yeah And i'm not afraid to say. That, yeah 601 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: you've only known, you guys. 602 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 2: For one an. HOUR i don't LOVE i don't know you. 603 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 2: ANYTHING i don't owe you. Anything this is. Over you're 604 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:48,479 Speaker 2: nothing to. 605 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 1: Me i'm, Done but if you still love, us make 606 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: sure to. Subscribe we might still love you and see you. 607 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 5: Tomorrow maybe this is an episode From deep within The. 608 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 2: Archives time for Okop. 609 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 5: Relam MY ceo found out he's my dad's a fair 610 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 5: baby and tried to fire. 611 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 2: Me But i've got a big surprise at my, sleeve. 612 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 3: A surprise bigger than our daddy's. Sausage oh, yeah we just. 613 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 3: Sausages hold sausages. 614 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 2: All over this a little sausage. 615 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 5: Jefo so my dad gave the whole FAMILY dna ancestry 616 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 5: kits for the. Holidays and it turns out THE ceo 617 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 5: of the COMPANY i. 618 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 2: Work for is my half. Brother that is. 619 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 3: Insane always it always ends like. Crazy this begins. 620 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 2: Crazy. 621 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, also if you want your family to stay intact 622 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 5: or your workplaces to stay, intact please don't get THIS dna. Tests, 623 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 5: yeah they will ruin your whole. 624 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 2: Life maybe. 625 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 5: Do dad's not the kind of guy to gift EVERYONE 626 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 5: dna kits as a way of telling us he had 627 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 5: a secret love. Child oh SO i don't think he 628 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 5: knew he had another, kid? 629 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 2: Right why would? You we're all grown up. 630 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 5: To know where babies come from and that things aren't 631 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 5: always what we. Expect SO i have a feeling this 632 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 5: is a shock to. Everyone, NO i don't, Know, John 633 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 5: do you think you? 634 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 2: Cheated? Uh? DADDY? 635 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 3: O i Think daddy was slinging that schlog Bro all, Right, 636 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 3: well let's. 637 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 5: See so the CEO's company bio says he's a, proud 638 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 5: piction born. 639 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 2: Ray everything's big In. 640 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 5: Texas everything's bigger In, texas including my daddy's. Meat he 641 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 5: was slinging something else around the bard C they called 642 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 5: him the gun, slinger slinging that that big old pc hayd. 643 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 2: Old sausage lasso wrangling them. 644 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 5: Cattle dad was stationed In texas ten years before he 645 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 5: met and married my, mother or so he. Says, no 646 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 5: probably the timeline all, fits and so rely. JEANS i 647 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 5: guess none of my siblings have initiated, contact and neither 648 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 5: has my. DAD i met THE ceo a few, times 649 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 5: but he works out of the corporate headquarters across the 650 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 5: country from a smaller division WHERE i. Work about a 651 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 5: week AFTER i got my, results an email went out 652 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 5: from the head of HR are stating that all staff 653 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 5: had to take a refresher training on. Nepotism the training 654 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 5: also included a clause that said something along the lines 655 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 5: of staff are not entitled to privileges personal or professional 656 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 5: if familial relation By janes or marriage to executive or 657 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 5: management staff is known or, unknown or discovered during. Employments 658 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 5: talking to, me, yeah your, brother this feels like aimed 659 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 5: At op almost. Right, Yes other than being clunky, VERBIAGE 660 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 5: i felt like it was aimed at. 661 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 2: Me, okay so op o. 662 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 5: GREES i found out no other branch had to retake 663 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 5: the nepotism training and the email only came to our. 664 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 3: Office this is literally like instead of Sending op a direct, 665 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 3: message it's like a direct message with like the mustache 666 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 3: And faye. 667 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 2: Glasses, yeah that's the level of competence they. 668 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 5: Have it's, like just because you might Know i'm, family 669 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 5: doesn't mean you were gonna get any special. 670 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 3: Treatment any family like secret affair baby brothers don't get special. 671 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 5: Treatment any person in the company who had a dad 672 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 5: that was In texas and was stationed in the military 673 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 5: and possibly boned my mom doesn't get any special privileges of. 674 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 5: It any family member that is On reddit and is 675 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 5: writing a story doesn't get any special. Privileges my manager 676 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 5: later pulled me in personally to ask IF i had. 677 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 2: Any questions about the. 678 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 5: Policy she was vague and, uncomfortable AND i SAID i 679 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 5: wanted to know why nobody else was gone on to 680 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 5: the one on one to talk about the, policy and 681 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 5: why no other branch had to do the. Training WHY 682 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 5: OPCs through the. Mustache she just kind of ignored the 683 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 5: question and said she was just following. Instructions so NOW 684 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 5: i definitely think it was aimed at. ME i was 685 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 5: happy to drop the whole. Thing i'm sure he feels 686 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 5: uncomfortable AS i do about, this but to WEAPONIZE hr 687 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 5: and make my coworkers waste the whole day on mandatory 688 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 5: training just to put a boundary up seem like he messed. 689 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 5: UP a simple personal email saying, HEY i saw, THIS 690 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 5: i don't know what to make of. It please give 691 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 5: me space and don't bring it to work would have, 692 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 5: Sufficed but instead he has to orchestrate everyone going to a. 693 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 2: Meeting man is. 694 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 5: Crazy even ignoring it would have been fine by me, 695 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 5: too SINCE i wasn't, SURE i wanted to be the 696 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 5: one to initiate a conversation about this without having talked 697 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 5: to my dad. First, Right dad has gotten his results back, 698 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 5: obviously and he's avoiding the. Conversation this is the big 699 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 5: elephant in the, room and it makes it hard THAT 700 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 5: i work with this. Guy what bothers me the most 701 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 5: is the weaponizing OF hr and the intent to make 702 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 5: SURE i know not to ask for, perks which is, 703 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 5: like is that something you would even? 704 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 2: Do LIKE i heard we're, related so, uh where's that? 705 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 2: PROMOTION i. 706 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 3: Guess this Is it's such a it's such a wild 707 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 3: response to immediately go on this whole. 708 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 2: CAMPAIGN i, KNOW i. 709 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 5: KNOW i don't like even if he was like OR 710 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 5: i guess he is, related but like that doesn't entitle 711 00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 5: you to? 712 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 2: Anything yeah, right, no, no, no not not at. 713 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 5: All i've been at the company for five years and 714 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 5: have a great. Reputation what DO i Do donald's word 715 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 5: of this, Story yeah it it's even. 716 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 3: Crazier but what do you think of the CEO's? RESPONSE 717 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 3: i think THE ceo is a. Madman LIKE I i feel, like, 718 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 3: honestly like he could have literally he could have done. 719 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 3: Nothing he could have literally been better off saying absolutely 720 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 3: nothing and not doing a dang thing and could have 721 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 3: been chilling that maybe then maybe when IF op was, 722 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 3: like oh give me give me a, bonus give me 723 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 3: a promotion. 724 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 2: Ball hey, Brother hey, Brother like, yeah, okay then now 725 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 2: you can you could you could clinch it? Down what 726 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 2: DID i do? It if you were Op, BRO i 727 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 2: WOULD i would take him for everything he's. Got oh ceo'd, 728 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 2: like you're my, brother give it to. Me i'm THE ceo, Now. 729 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 3: Sam you, know we talk about a lot of really 730 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 3: hard situations on this. 731 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 2: Podcast oh, baby the, hardest and you, Know, sam that's 732 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 2: not the only thing that we need hard in this. 733 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 5: World bellas if you're trying to play a little game 734 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 5: Of hide the zucchini and you want that zucchini to be, 735 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 5: nice firm and. 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It 768 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 5: things were quiet for a week until a major PROJECT 769 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 5: i was working on was mysteriously deleted on the company. 770 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 5: Drive it was a coincidence THAT i had it backed 771 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 5: up on A. Usb katie was suspicious about my project 772 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 5: getting deleted and told me to save everything to an 773 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 5: external drive and my, hardware and sure, enough the project 774 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 5: got deleted. 775 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 2: Again what is happening after? 776 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 5: That ANYTHING i put on our work servers was getting 777 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 5: deleted within, hours as well as any correspondence with clients 778 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 5: or team. 779 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 2: Members it's so. 780 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 5: Ridiculous and do you think THE ceo is Likew bro 781 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 5: literally like it's so. 782 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 2: Obvious this is again like the, mustache like. 783 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: It wasn't me. 784 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 5: RICH i started sending all my work communication and attachments 785 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 5: To katie and duplicating them on A usb That katie 786 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 5: kept walked in her. Office it was like A James bond. 787 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 5: Movie this is, Insane, god what do you? 788 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 2: DO I? 789 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 3: Bro, honestly at this, POINT i think you could have 790 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 3: a kitcut because he's literally like he's worked here for five. 791 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 3: Years he's probably was like planning on building his career. 792 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 3: Office now he. CAN'T i would probably be like if 793 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,320 Speaker 3: this keeps, sue because it's like IF i can't advance, 794 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 3: HERE I i want to get out AND i want 795 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 3: to like like get my get mine for What i'm like. 796 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 2: Going through that rough. 797 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 5: Okay so after a mid month project meeting WHERE i 798 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 5: showed up with all my work on A usb, DRIVE 799 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 5: hr pulled me in because an anonymous concern was raised 800 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 5: about me hiding my work from my, colleagues and they 801 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 5: tried to write me up because like, op he's putting 802 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,760 Speaker 5: it on A usb an anonymous. 803 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 2: Concern, yeah it's it's not. 804 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 5: Me katie must have known something like this was, coming 805 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 5: because she handled it and bcced me on all her 806 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 5: correspondence WITH hr and the executive, team outlining her concerns 807 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,240 Speaker 5: about the CEOs and HR's behavior regarding THE dna, results 808 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 5: and that she believes someone was remotely accessing my work 809 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 5: computer to any. Things the COMPANY vp was. Horrified up until, 810 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 5: THAT i didn't know Ce bro wasn't the owner of the. 811 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 5: Company SO ceo is not the. 812 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 2: Owner he's just like, okay he just. 813 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 5: Run katie AND i had a call with THE vp that, 814 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,399 Speaker 5: day who assured me that the owners were being made 815 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 5: aware of the situation and that my job was not in. JEOPARDY, 816 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 5: whoa that's, good but then hit the. Fan oh, god 817 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 5: that always. DOES Ceo bro's mom Contacted dad on the home. 818 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 5: Front as all this was happening at. WORK i won't 819 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 5: get into what was, said but the gist Is dad 820 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 5: was set up as an unwitting donor for a childless. 821 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 5: Couple SO i guess that's like unwitting, donor which means 822 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 5: maybe he met some lady at a. Bar she was, 823 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 5: like you, know impregnate me and then never talked to him. 824 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 5: AGAIN i got, pregnant and then that's, like instead of 825 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,839 Speaker 5: doing like in vitro fertilization or, something. 826 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 3: Just you got like a sperm. Donor sperm donor from the. Streets, wow, okay, okay. 827 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 5: Okay The monday After dad spoke to See bro's, MOTHER 828 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 5: i was walking through the lobby WHEN hr literally ambushed 829 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 5: me and loudly fired me in front of a client 830 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 5: in twenty of my. 831 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 2: Colleagues. 832 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 5: Oh my security then escorted me out in front of 833 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 5: my friends and colleagues who had no idea what was. 834 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 5: Happening so that was pretty dark and. Humiliating katie stopped 835 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 5: me on the way to my car and brought me 836 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 5: back in for a video call with, her THE, vp 837 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 5: and the owners of the. COMPANY i explained everything that 838 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 5: had happened SINCE i got MY dna results back the 839 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 5: nepotism training and, everything and what do you think the company, 840 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 5: Did John. 841 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 3: BRO i pray that they were, Like, nah you're you're you're, 842 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 3: Straight you're, Good you're. 843 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:55,959 Speaker 2: Clear. 844 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 5: YEP i was fired but asked to turn in my 845 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 5: badge as both a S. EO bro AND i were 846 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 5: suspended pending a full investigation by the owners and their, 847 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 5: lawyer OH p suspended. WELL i was suspended with, pay 848 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 5: WHICH hr vehemently protested. Against the suspension lasted a week 849 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 5: AND i had planned to spend that time looking for another, 850 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 5: job BUT i just didn't have. 851 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 2: Time bro TO. 852 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 3: Hr literally the CEO's like, cronies, army just like, yes, yes, yes, 853 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 3: MA i will do your. 854 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 2: Bidding. 855 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 5: Okay actually there is some some tea on That cebro 856 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 5: did not return after the. SUSPENSION i was after my 857 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 5: job back within an, apology BUT i opted not to 858 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 5: go back either and have been freelancing and taking some 859 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,760 Speaker 5: much needed downtime as this last month. 860 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 2: Sucked. 861 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 5: YEAH i did accept a generous severance, package tried to 862 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,359 Speaker 5: do the right thing in all of. THIS i have 863 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 5: to say that PEOPLE i resent the most in the 864 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 5: situation where the two GOBLIN hr reps who knew they 865 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,399 Speaker 5: were doing the wrong thing every step of the way 866 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 5: and openly enjoyed the drama of it all that. 867 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 2: You're supposed to be IN hr like the opposite of. 868 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 5: THAT i know rumors have reached me that both the 869 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 5: people IN hr can acting With cbro in some way 870 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 5: like former colleague friends or ex's or. SOMETHING i wish 871 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 5: them the future they. Deserve So john Is, op THE 872 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,879 Speaker 5: a hole Is? Cebro THE a? Hole are THE hr 873 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,280 Speaker 5: REPS a? Hole past your judgment, now but Before John bass's. 874 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 5: JUDGMENTS i want to know what you guys. Think what 875 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 5: would you do in this? Situation and who's THE a? 876 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 3: Hole? Op not THE a hole Cee, bro definitely the AHLE, 877 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 3: hr the craziest a. Holes they just took these marching 878 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 3: orders and just like went for. 879 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 2: IT i hate. THAT i. 880 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 5: KNOW i know where's your, Spine Sir. Cook if anything 881 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 5: like this has happened to, you please put it in the. 882 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,319 Speaker 5: Comments who, also let us know what you think and 883 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 5: we'll see you. 884 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 3: Soon but, First, sam we need to switch from sipping 885 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,240 Speaker 3: tea to going to a potentially not vegan wedding. Dinner 886 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 3: let's do it. 887 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 2: Tea timed dinner. 888 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 5: Time oh, yeah don't pay for my. Work have fun 889 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 5: with the entire world knowing you are a big fat. 890 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 5: SCAM okayopi this is. Okayop I'm samuel's daughter And I'm 891 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 5: John frank and. 892 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 2: We tell the funnier story and. 893 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: It's. 894 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 5: Beautiful Oh, john that was. BEAUTIFUL i love those. Pipes but, 895 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 5: uh you, know contrary to popular, Opinion john is not 896 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 5: a professional. Singer in, fact he actually used to have 897 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:28,800 Speaker 5: a job Doing facebook. 898 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 2: Ads is that? CORRECT i. DID i did have a 899 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 2: job on Doing facebook. Ads how did that? Go? Uh 900 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 2: it went pretty. 901 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 3: Well it was interesting BECAUSE i, literally, UH i had 902 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,839 Speaker 3: kind of like lost everything and like moved back home 903 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 3: and just ASSUMED i was going to uh live like 904 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 3: a normal life and go back to. School and then 905 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,880 Speaker 3: this like opportunity randomly came out of, nowhere which was, 906 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 3: amazing AND i ended up spending LIKE i think six 907 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars or something on digital. 908 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 5: Ads six hundred big. 909 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 2: Ones. Damn that's uh that is. 910 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 5: Huge, well as you, know in the world Of facebook, 911 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 5: ads it's hard to get. Clicks, YEAH i mean, maybe Big, Daddy, 912 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 5: JOHN i learned the secret. Formula but like people like 913 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 5: always expect with like, ads like, oh you're gonna get 914 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:09,439 Speaker 5: make so much, money you're gonna get somebody. 915 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 2: Clucks but it's actually. Hard you have to create like 916 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 2: a really really good. 917 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 5: Ad and this story is about someone making A facebook 918 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 5: ad for a client and them becoming a. Scammer, scamming a, 919 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 5: scammer the. Worst all, right don't pay for my, work 920 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 5: have fun with the entire world knowing you are a 921 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 5: big fat. Scammer got. YOU i was hired to make 922 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 5: an advertisement for this cosmetic. STARTUP i normally don't accept 923 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 5: local clients BECAUSE i have a lot of crappy experience with, 924 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 5: them but this client sounded like she's willing to pay 925 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,479 Speaker 5: for my. Service So i'm all, right what AM i gonna? 926 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 5: Do i'm just gonna, say, yeah all, right let's take a. 927 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 5: Ride accident charged them? MUCH i only charged sixty dollars per. 928 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,760 Speaker 5: Week and As john as a Resident facebook ads, expert 929 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 5: is that. 930 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,360 Speaker 3: A lot of, little absolutely nothing? 931 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 2: Abysmal yeah you're worth? It Opening? Yeah come? 932 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 5: On, well, Actually op, says on, AVERAGE i charge a 933 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 5: foreign client three hundred dollars per. Week, OKAY i don't 934 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 5: know why you're charging so much less on this, one 935 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 5: but MAYBE i just wanted to give the client a, 936 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,360 Speaker 5: break a local, like let me give you some local. 937 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 2: Discount never give a client of. Break that's what breaks for. Anyone, 938 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:21,799 Speaker 2: well the first two weeks were. 939 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 5: Good she provided me with every MATERIAL i needed to 940 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 5: make an effective advertisement despite her limited. Budget, however we 941 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:33,239 Speaker 5: began to have an argument on week. Two on the 942 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 5: second week Of scammer, clients. 943 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 2: They clicked on the wrong. Person, yeah they clicked on 944 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 2: the wrong. 945 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,800 Speaker 5: Ad she's suddenly demanding our ads should have at least 946 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,840 Speaker 5: one thousand clicks per, day which is ef an absurd 947 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,360 Speaker 5: because her budget only allows her to have twelve hundred 948 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 5: reaches per, day which is like twelve hundred views on the. 949 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,239 Speaker 5: Post and she's expecting everyone who views a post to 950 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 5: click on, it which just does not. Happen, like what's 951 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,240 Speaker 5: the average click? Rate, John, oh, dude like one to three? Percent, 952 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,920 Speaker 5: hey there you, go one to three. Percent the facts 953 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 5: are in From big Daddy bucks, advertising big. 954 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 2: Boy that's. 955 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,799 Speaker 3: Right, like if she did, that almost imagine every every 956 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 3: person seeing an. 957 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 2: Ad clicking on. It that doesn't. Happen, icula we all 958 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:15,839 Speaker 2: know THAT i told. 959 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 5: Her for that to be, possible she should increase her, 960 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 5: budget which is what a GREAT i, guess, like you, 961 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 5: know that's great. 962 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 2: Advice what you, say, yeah. 963 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:27,240 Speaker 5: Exactly suddenly she called me a fraudoo despite my ads 964 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 5: having at least three hundred clicks per, day which is 965 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 5: actually like really really, good that's. Amazing and now she 966 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 5: refused to give me her payment for the last two. 967 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 5: Weeks she's ignoring my call this. WEEKEND i think my 968 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,840 Speaker 5: number is. Blocked stupid her because she didn't remove me 969 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,959 Speaker 5: from her. Pay SO i decided to work up some 970 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 5: good stuff wlo. Petty her ads are still, running SO 971 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,400 Speaker 5: i decided to change what was. RUN i changed the 972 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,839 Speaker 5: pictures to a text post that, says. 973 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 2: Don't buy from. 974 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,880 Speaker 5: This the owner refused to give me my salary and 975 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 5: a rate personal assistant she called a for not meeting 976 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:07,360 Speaker 5: her absurd. Expectation oh. TELEMP i also included screenshots of 977 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,359 Speaker 5: her conversation to back it up in case like anyone 978 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:10,279 Speaker 5: who saw the ad was. 979 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 1: Like what is this? 980 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:11,919 Speaker 2: About, yeah, yeah. 981 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 5: RECEIPTS i did it last, night And i'm sure any 982 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 5: moment she will contact, me BUT i am done with. 983 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 2: Her i'm moving. Up there we go. 984 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 5: That one hundred twenty dollars she, owns it's hers to 985 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 5: Keep as for, Me i'm not accepting any local clients. 986 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,760 Speaker 5: ANYMORE i am frickin done with. Them lesson, learned lesson. 987 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 5: Learned but guess, what there's an. Update so yesterday around four, 988 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,799 Speaker 5: PM i checked the ads and apparently it reverted back 989 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 5: to the original. 990 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:38,720 Speaker 2: Ones. 991 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 5: Nah then a few moments, later my account now says account, 992 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 5: error which means the payment method is. CANCELED i felt 993 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,799 Speaker 5: frustrated Because i'm still not yet being done, petty AND 994 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 5: i had some work to. Do, Yeah SO i posted 995 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 5: my story anonymous on a group Called Social Media Marketing 996 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 5: philippines as my way of venting out and subtly warning 997 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 5: potential va is that she'll Hire, naturally people in the 998 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 5: group are with. ME i got my freakin' posse by 999 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 5: army of vas to go against this woman the. Squad this, 1000 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 5: MORNING i finally got a response from. 1001 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 2: Her she is. 1002 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,880 Speaker 5: Angry apparently she saw my post and threatened to sue 1003 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,840 Speaker 5: me for defamation and basically, so she saw The reddit, 1004 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 5: post but note from, OPE i didn't specify which STARTUP 1005 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,440 Speaker 5: i said it was. FROM i only mentioned it's a cosmetic, 1006 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 5: company and therefore she had nothing to hold her. Case, 1007 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 5: HOWEVER i have receipts that she hasn't paid, me AND 1008 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 5: i told her that even though we have no written, 1009 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,800 Speaker 5: contract our chat WHICH i, kept can be used against 1010 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,279 Speaker 5: her in the court of. Law on top of, THAT 1011 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,840 Speaker 5: i mentioned that my uncle is a regional, judge not a, 1012 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,840 Speaker 5: lie AND i came from a clan of, politicians, again 1013 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 5: not a. Lie simply, PUT i will destroy her life 1014 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 5: if she. 1015 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,240 Speaker 2: Men. 1016 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,280 Speaker 5: Yeah at, first she didn't believe, it SO i googled 1017 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 5: my grandpa's, name which led to A wikipedia, page and 1018 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,880 Speaker 5: she went silent after. That after an, HOUR i sent 1019 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 5: her a message telling her it doesn't have to end this. 1020 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 5: Way all she needed to do was pay the way 1021 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 5: she owed, me because OTHERWISE i can use my family's 1022 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:13,759 Speaker 5: influence to make sure her business goes. Bankrups so she 1023 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 5: immediately sent my. SALARY i thanked her and promptly blocked. 1024 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 2: Her, Dude, wow that is. 1025 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:26,120 Speaker 5: Some, revenge, baby revenge best served, quickly. 1026 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:31,800 Speaker 3: Efficiently and that's that sign and hopefully lesson. Learned go 1027 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,239 Speaker 3: go with different, clients you. 1028 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 5: Know, yeah you know there's the, thing like if you 1029 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 5: have clients paying you, peanuts they're probably going to be 1030 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 5: difficult to work. With like the it's it's kind of, 1031 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,560 Speaker 5: weird like the lower they pay, you the more. Difficult, 1032 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:50,480 Speaker 5: yeah so make sure you only take high paying. 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