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Speaker 1: Thank you for tuning into the NFL First Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your oldest Peanut Tillman and today we have NFL legend

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Speaker 1: Scott Turner. Nice to be with your brother. So what

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Speaker 1: have you been up to lately? Well lately, most recently,

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Speaker 1: Um came home from the White House in Um. From

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen one, I led the Opportunity Zone Initiative. What

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Speaker 1: is that? What is that? So? Opportunity zones are poverty

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Speaker 1: stricken neighborhoods in America. So really, Um, you know, the

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Speaker 1: neighborhoods in urban and rural and tribal neighborhoods that have

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Speaker 1: a low median income to have a high poverty rate,

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Speaker 1: high crime rate. It's really the hood of America, right,

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Speaker 1: but you know, so much potential and promise and precious

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Speaker 1: people that lived there. And so I got appointed by

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Speaker 1: President Trump to work with dog Dr Ben Carson and

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Speaker 1: to lead to what they call the White House Opportunity

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Speaker 1: and Revitalization Council. And from a high level, my job

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Speaker 1: was going to these communities and convene stakeholders together, so

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Speaker 1: community leaders, faith leaders, education leaders, entrepreneurs, business owners, and

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Speaker 1: elected officials and really, you know, we would have the

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Speaker 1: hard conversations, right, why does the neighborhood look this way?

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Speaker 1: Or why has there not been investment, you know in

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Speaker 1: this neighborhood in decades. But then as we convened together,

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Speaker 1: once we recognize what the issues were, then we would

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Speaker 1: come up with a strategy for long term sustainability. Now,

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Speaker 1: each each neighborhood or each state was different. The strategy

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Speaker 1: wasn't the same for each. Like say, it might be

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Speaker 1: different in the tribal community versus an inner city on

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Speaker 1: the West coast or East coast. That's exactly right, So

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Speaker 1: and opportunities, and you know, they all kind of had

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Speaker 1: the same criteria. But south side of Chicago is different

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Speaker 1: than you know, um wrong, note Virginia or the south

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Speaker 1: side of Philly may be different than the tribal nation

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Speaker 1: in Olympic Peninsula. You know, but poverty was a common denominator.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes in these neighborhoods they needed housing, workforce housing. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: in these neighborhoods it would be new businesses to be started.

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Speaker 1: And around America, I tried to talk about eighty cities

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Speaker 1: around our country, and you know, some downtowns that you

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Speaker 1: through the years, through decades have gone down, you know,

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Speaker 1: into condominiums or rental places for the people of the

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Speaker 1: city to live in. So with the eighty cities that

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Speaker 1: you travel to, what was one of the underlying problems

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Speaker 1: know they're all different, but like, what was one of

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Speaker 1: over and over again. That's a great question. And one

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Speaker 1: would be a decreasing population. You know, a lot of

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Speaker 1: times in smaller towns, rural towns or even some urban towns,

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Speaker 1: so when you have a decreased population, you know, investment

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Speaker 1: thing that I wanted to do, our team wanted to do,

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Speaker 1: is to give people a reason to stay in Tamahua, Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: Well kind of wanted to say, uh, when I was

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Speaker 1: I had been retired for five years. Uh, and the

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Speaker 1: It was some it was some good cooking. It was

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Speaker 1: it was. It was definitely a really um it was

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Speaker 1: So when you were there, did you ever get a

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Speaker 1: Other than just the museum itself, which is tremendous, they

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Speaker 1: It was. I got more of a behind the scene,

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Speaker 1: I got a chance to do that. My um my

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