1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 2: Cowboys Let's go. 4 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 3: Are you ready for a break? Yes? 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 2: Are you ready for a break? 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 3: Absolutely? 7 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 2: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 8 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 4: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 9 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:35,959 Speaker 4: with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Nick Harris, and Derek Eagleton. 10 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 2: It is Tuesday, December twenty fourth, twenty twenty four, Season twenty, 11 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: episode number ninety one. Welcome to the latest edition of 12 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 2: The Break. We are live in SWBC Mortgage Studios at 13 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: the Star and it's festive time around here. It's Christmas Eve. 14 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: Lots going on today. We have a lot of different 15 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: topics we're going to hit you. There's a little Chrismas 16 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: music there. 17 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 3: No, I was just thinking there is a I believe 18 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 3: the hail was on Christmas Eve? Christmas Day? Was it 19 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 3: the twenty third? Gosh? Okay, I remember watching. I was 20 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 3: thinking it was around the holidays. It's amazing the NFL 21 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 3: playoffs are going on, like, yeah, Christmas December. 22 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: And now you're Super Bowl in February. 23 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. Now we're in the Monigral next year. 24 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 5: Next sure, it'll be fifty years of the hill, Mary Hill. 25 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 2: Mary, Yeah, you thought about Oh. 26 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 5: I thought about it plenty this week. I certainly have. 27 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 3: Is it one of the things there's never been a 28 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 3: deep blue on the hill? Mary? Has it? 29 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 4: Uh? 30 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: Well, we know that. We we've thought about doing some 31 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 2: extra content on it, but we is it? It kind 32 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: of it kind of fell apart. There was some some issues. 33 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 3: R okay, web, Sorry I didn't ring it up. 34 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: No, nothing bad, nothing bad. It was just like there 35 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: was just some probably ran into it. We thought we 36 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: had maybe the ball, the actual ball. It just didn't 37 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: turn out. 38 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 6: Oh, excuse me, it's the twenty eighth is it birthday? 39 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 6: There you go, that's how you remember? 40 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: That's I remember. Yeah. 41 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 3: Didn't that ball end up in the stands? 42 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: Actually? 43 00:01:58,640 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 5: Go ahead, go ahead? 44 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 3: You you I'm sorry, I mean you did. Did Drew 45 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 3: Pearson throw the ball in the stands? 46 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 6: So whenever he whenever he said he had a dream 47 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 6: the night before where he caught the winning touchdown and 48 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 6: threw the ball out of the stadium. So when he 49 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 6: caught it, he was like, well, I got to throw 50 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 6: it out of the stadium. So we threw it out 51 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 6: of the stadium and with the met it was it 52 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 6: was open ye that we have today, and so he 53 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 6: threw it and it landed in the parking lot and 54 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 6: never never recovered as far as we know. 55 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 5: But we thought we maybe had it this past summer, but. 56 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 2: We had a line to it, but it didn't work. 57 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 3: Was it a Minneapolis fan? 58 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 5: Long story? 59 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 6: I don't know what we can share, So I'm just 60 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 6: gonna you're done there. 61 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 2: Okay, there was a whole thing. The whole thing, but 62 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: we didn't realize there was such a to say. We 63 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: didn't find the ball. We thought we may have had 64 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 2: the ball, but it just we didn't feel comfortable that 65 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 2: that was the ball. 66 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 3: So yeah, hard to Okay, what did the ball say? 67 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 3: Did the ball at the time? Could you identify it 68 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,679 Speaker 3: as saying exactly? 69 00:02:59,000 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? 70 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 3: So this was it was this say this wouldn't be 71 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,119 Speaker 3: a this would be would be a Pete Roselle ball. 72 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 5: It would be a Pete Roselle ball, and say the duke. Yes. 73 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 6: In the seventies, it had a very specific brand on 74 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 6: It had very specific uh typing on it. The air 75 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 6: hole in the ball was had a very specific spot 76 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 6: and then in the eighties it switched over or excuse 77 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 6: me in nineteen seventy six, it switched over, so they 78 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 6: go by ten year increments, but they go from like 79 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 6: seventy or sixty six to seventy five and then seventy 80 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 6: six to eighty five, and so like there was a 81 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 6: like that was that like one of the probably one 82 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 6: of the final balls that was used of like that era. Wow, 83 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 6: And so yeah, there was even more confusion about Okay, 84 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 6: is this ball this because of that or this because 85 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 6: of that where they may be doing some eighties test 86 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 6: balls in this game. 87 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 5: There's there's all. 88 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 2: Man, it was the whole thing and actually that may 89 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: be worth a documentary and it really that process because 90 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:57,839 Speaker 2: it is it's a lot to consider when you're trying 91 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 2: to identify and authenticate a ball from from a game 92 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 2: that happened back in the seventies. Right. 93 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, I had a phenomenal time working for you guys 94 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 6: for sixteen months. I always said the best thing that 95 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 6: I ever worked on was the Marion Barber documentary. 96 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 5: I will forever remember working on that. 97 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 6: The second best thing that I ever worked on, nothing 98 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 6: ever came of it. It was the Drew Pearson ball. 99 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 3: So that was that's fascinating. 100 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was a fun time me and so was 101 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 6: just Blake. He had a lot of late nights on 102 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 6: the phone with that. 103 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and a lot of headaches on that one. 104 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 5: Lot of headaches with that one. 105 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, let's jump in. I have some questions 106 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 2: we didn't get to yesterday about the offense, and I 107 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 2: want to take the first segment. I don't know, we're 108 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: going to see and here you go. 109 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 3: Second segment's see make questions we could pick off of 110 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 3: Brian's before he. 111 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 2: Gets started, got a lot of them. In the second segment, 112 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: we'll dive inside the brain and Brian brought us And 113 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: in the third segment, because it is Christmas Eve, we're 114 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: gonna do some Christmas wishes here. I would go across 115 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 2: the offensive, defense, coaching special teams. What do you guys 116 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 2: have wishes for this team? We'll do that in the 117 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 2: final segment, I Amber, how are you? We're just rolling along? 118 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, I just came in here quietly drank my coffee. 119 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 7: You know we should all be home right now, but 120 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 7: glad to be here with yo, you all sharing this 121 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 7: lovely morning. 122 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 5: It is. 123 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 7: If you guys are listening outside of the FW area, 124 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 7: is just raining. 125 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 5: A lot right now. 126 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 2: Understorms. 127 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 7: It's very cloudy, very dark. It looks like everyone should 128 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 7: be home right now. 129 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 2: But it's not cold. That's the crazy part. Christmas time, 130 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 2: and I ran in shorts this morning. It was sixty degrees. 131 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 6: I was thinking too, with it being raining as hard 132 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 6: as it is. I was like, if it was cold, 133 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 6: we'll be getting a white. 134 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 5: Christmas right now, yeah or not? Unfortunately not. 135 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 2: Instead we got summer weather. Anyway, we'll do that summer 136 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 2: walking packers. So let's talk about this offense. I want 137 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 2: to start with Ceedee Lamb. In this last game, he 138 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 2: had eight targets and seven receptions for one hundred and 139 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 2: five yards. After the game, he made it clear his shoulder, 140 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 2: yeah hurts like it hurts. It's messed up. What are 141 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 2: your thoughts just on his will to play right now 142 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: and whether it's a good thing. Jerry even mentioned it 143 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 2: this morning on his hit with one on five three 144 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 2: the fan. That's something they're going to keep an eye on, 145 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 2: and they certainly will leave it up to the player 146 00:05:58,880 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 2: to make the decision. 147 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 3: But what do you thought on that? Can I ask 148 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 3: you real quick question on this oneause I know you're 149 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 3: gonna answer this, But do you think that's affecting him 150 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 3: in second halves of games. 151 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 5: You know, because this was happening the second half production 152 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 5: was happening a way. 153 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 3: Before the shoulder. Ok, carry on, my friend, carry on. 154 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 5: I uh with with cd. 155 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 6: He's he's been told that he can't hurt it anymore, 156 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 6: so he's just. 157 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 5: Playing through it. 158 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 2: Can't injure it anymore. 159 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 5: Correct, Yeah, it can hurt some more. Right, you're right. 160 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 5: Let me let me rephrase there. 161 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 2: Injured he is. 162 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, he cannot injure it further. He has the sprain 163 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 6: ed ac joint in the shoulder. Every time he lands 164 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 6: on it. You just know whenever he lands on it too, 165 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 6: that he's going to be slow getting up at that 166 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 6: big I think it was the fifty three yard reception 167 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 6: when he came to the ground. I mean we could 168 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 6: all look at each other and be like, oh, that 169 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,679 Speaker 6: one hurt. You know, it did even if he didn't 170 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 6: have the shoulder injury. But I think I think there's 171 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 6: a couple of things that play here with with cd A. 172 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 6: He takes a lot of pride in the work that 173 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 6: he puts in, especially over the off season, and you know, 174 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 6: him being on his own during the offseason, he took 175 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 6: a lot of pride in the work that he put 176 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 6: in in that in that sense, he has, uh he 177 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 6: has goals and milestones that he wants to reach personally 178 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 6: and that requires him playing. And then secondly, you know 179 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 6: him saying in the locker room after the game, He's like, 180 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 6: I'm gonna continue to fight with these guys. These are 181 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 6: my brothers, and I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna help them 182 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 6: try to win games. So you know, that's that's that's 183 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 6: what he gets paid to do, and he's he's doing it, 184 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 6: and I, uh, my hat's off to him, honestly, because 185 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 6: I I I consider myself a competitor, but I don't 186 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 6: think I would be competing if I was in right now. 187 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 7: I understood it before the Cowboys were eliminated from the playoffs, 188 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 7: and even for him to go out and play in 189 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 7: that game, I'm like, Okay, sure you were preparing as 190 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 7: if you had to play that game. But hearing Jerry 191 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 7: Jones mentioned, hey, we'll live it up to the player 192 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 7: and let him decide however he feels however he wants 193 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 7: to handle these last two games. That's where I'm not 194 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 7: okay with that, and I don't know if City's sentiment 195 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 7: continues to be the same as this week got started, 196 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 7: but I would hope it has changed, because again, you're hurt, 197 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 7: you showed what you did, You were there doing what 198 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 7: you needed to do while it matter. And at this point, 199 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 7: there's absolutely no reason for him to be out there 200 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 7: re injuring. We saw it in one of those plays, 201 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 7: in one of the catch that he made, how he 202 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 7: landed on it and had to come out in pain. 203 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 7: He came back into the game, but still there's no 204 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 7: necessity to have him out there these last two games, 205 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 7: even if he wanted to. That's where I you step 206 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 7: in and say, hey, there's nobody someone sit down. 207 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 3: Do you think the front office needs to protect him? 208 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 3: Then I do. 209 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 2: If there's no way to re injure it, like from 210 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 2: what Nick saying, he's been told that he can't injure it. 211 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 7: Further, we're humans, we have bones, and I don't I'm 212 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 7: not a doctor, but even if somebody is like, there's 213 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 7: always a way for you to re hurt something and 214 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 7: re injure something or make it worse. I don't. I 215 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 7: don't know. I don't know if it's I don't know, 216 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 7: but I don't want him out there, sit down. 217 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 3: Right, Like what you said. I think that's you know 218 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 3: that sometimes people need to step in and protect these guys. 219 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 3: And so this guy takes a lot of pride in 220 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 3: that jersey. He wears that number. He wears. He carries 221 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 3: a big and not a burden, but it carries an 222 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 3: aura of toughness. We were just talking about the hail Mary. 223 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 3: You know, brutal conditions, Grassfield coal tough, got. 224 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 5: Hicked by a police officer, hopeless. 225 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh no, There's a lot worse things happened in 226 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 3: the seventies. In those games. You goes to sidelines, you're 227 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 3: lucky to get back on the field, and some of 228 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 3: the sidelines of those games they had head hunting defensive 229 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 3: backs and stuff like that. But it's a certain amount 230 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 3: of pride that he has and a certain amount it's 231 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 3: a badge of like courage and honor and history with it, 232 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 3: and I think he I think he looks at that 233 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 3: as something that is important to the legacy of where 234 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 3: that jersey goes. But I do agree with you, I 235 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 3: do agree with you. I think there's a certain time 236 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 3: that you have to protect the player. And even though 237 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 3: it is a can't hurt it anymore, you know, give 238 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 3: them an opportunity to just sit back and take these 239 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 3: last two weeks and try and get healed up and 240 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 3: then make sure that you're off season, that you go 241 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 3: into the off season with like, Okay, now, what's the 242 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 3: next step that we need to do playing football games. Yeah, 243 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 3: it's important to win games. It's important for Mike McCarthy 244 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 3: to win games. You know, it's important for this coaching step. 245 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy said something yesterday to you guys, Hey, I 246 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 3: don't worry about me. I worry about my assistance. You know. 247 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy's kind of taking care. So it's about winning games, 248 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 3: and these players want to go win games. And we 249 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,719 Speaker 3: always laugh that. You know, here we are, we're a 250 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 3: little bit this way. We're signed up for seventeen weeks. 251 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 3: We signed up, we're working on Christmas Eve. You know, 252 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 3: we're signed up football season. With football season, we football. 253 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 3: But I think you make a really good point that 254 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 3: to me, I think you have to protect the players 255 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 3: sometimes and this would be one of those times to me. 256 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 7: But also more so than you even possibly reinjuring. Let's 257 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 7: say you can get more injured. It's starting the healing process. Now, 258 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 7: it's allowing you, even if it's two week ahead, like, 259 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 7: go ahead and start that healing process, because when you 260 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 7: look at the roster and all the injured players, you're 261 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 7: gonna have a lot to deal with for next season. 262 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 7: So why not whatever extra time, even if it's a week, 263 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 7: a week and a half, go ahead and start that 264 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 7: healing process right now. 265 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 2: Well that was I literally just wrote that down because 266 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:33,719 Speaker 2: that was the key for me. I'm not sure. I 267 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 2: don't know if this is going to require any kind 268 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 2: of surgery, but at the most, at the very least, 269 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 2: it's going to require some sort of rehab and rest 270 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: all those things. The sooner you can start that, the 271 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 2: sooner he's available for offseason workouts. And so from that standpoint, 272 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 2: that's the only area. Like if it wasn't for that, 273 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 2: then I just kind of I do have a belief 274 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 2: that when it comes to football, it is a sport 275 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 2: of attrition, it is a sport of pain tolerance, and 276 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: I think sometimes you have to show yourself, sometimes you 277 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 2: have to show your teammates that my level of pain 278 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 2: tolerance is up there, like I am going to battle 279 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 2: through whatever it is, and that means this becomes a 280 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 2: real opportunity now because of the fact that if he's 281 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 2: hurt and the games don't mean anything, him going out 282 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 2: there and playing really hard, his teammates see that there's 283 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 2: a lot of credibility he earns in that room from 284 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 2: being out there right now, in these moments when it 285 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: doesn't matter other than him just being out there to 286 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 2: play football. As teammates. 287 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 3: I think that he you know, and I think you 288 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 3: said that very well. I also think that he has 289 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 3: proven that. I don't think I ever have to worry 290 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 3: about him lining up and play. There's players out there 291 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 3: that you start to hear the whispers, you know, not 292 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 3: knowing the difference between injury and pain, and you know, 293 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 3: and that's the one so concern you, that guy right there. 294 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 3: I would never ever ever think that if if they 295 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 3: were battling, if they were battling the commanders, if they 296 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 3: were still in the hunt, there would not be a 297 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 3: question at eighty eight would line up and play. There's 298 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 3: no question about that. And I don't think anybody is 299 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 3: ever will ever going forward question the toughness and the 300 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 3: availability of ceed lamb that right there is. That thing 301 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 3: has been taken care of. 302 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 2: No I think that's true, and I agree with that. 303 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 2: I just think that sometimes in life, there you get 304 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 2: presented these oh no you do, you're right about show 305 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 2: your toughness. You'll show how much you're committed to something right, 306 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 2: and if you miss those opportunities, sometimes you can't get 307 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 2: them back. 308 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 3: He signed up for seventeen weeks. 309 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, all right, we're going to take our first break. 310 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll dive inside the brain of 311 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 2: Brian brought us and then if if he leaves some 312 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 2: of the questions I had on my list for that 313 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 2: final segment, then maybe we'll get to those. We'll do 314 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 2: that when we come back. 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I read that. 373 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 7: Without the script, guys, I had to close my eyes. 374 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: Yeah you were there. 375 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, did a great job. 376 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 2: Welcome back. Second segment of the Break life in thats 377 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 2: WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. This segment's brought to 378 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 2: you by Blockchain, and it will take you inside the 379 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 2: brain of Brian broad As Brian, what. 380 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 3: You got all right? Derek Eagleton right off the jump 381 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 3: for the skilled guys, has Turpin replaced Ferguson as your 382 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:04,479 Speaker 3: third most important offensive weapon? Because I say Lamb and 383 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 3: Dowdle are the two most important weapons? 384 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 2: Should he be yes? Should he be yes? Has he? 385 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 2: I don't know that they're using him enough for me 386 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 2: to make that claim. Now I will say this in 387 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 2: this last game, lining him up in the backfield. Actually 388 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 2: liked that and I thought it was even though it 389 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 2: didn't really turn out to be great plays, I thought 390 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 2: it was good and I think it worked with what 391 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 2: they were trying to do, just to give him a 392 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 2: different look. Like if you notice what they did was 393 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 2: because of the personnel package, they were able to get 394 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 2: them to really get all of their get the right 395 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 2: personnel on the field for dubtas and then take advantage 396 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 2: of on that touchdown pass because they had on the 397 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 2: touchdown pass, they then had who was it, I'm trying 398 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 2: to blank number one Tobert. They had Tolbert lined up 399 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 2: and he had a linebackground which allowed him to get 400 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 2: the touchdown right, So you got the matchup you want 401 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:58,919 Speaker 2: it because of the personnel packages when you get a 402 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: receiver next receipt on the field, but you line him 403 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 2: up in the backfield. So I love how they're using 404 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 2: him in that way. I don't know, I haven't seen 405 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 2: enough to say they're going to do that regularly enough 406 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 2: for me to say he's replaced Ferguson as the third 407 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 2: offensive weapon. 408 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 6: Nick cars my points I think completely resemble Derek to 409 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,719 Speaker 6: my left here, I think it's close, though, Turpin has 410 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 6: really started to gain an influence throughout the season, and 411 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 6: that goes back to training camp. I think quietly he 412 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 6: had one of the best training camps in Oxnard as 413 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 6: far as getting integrated into the offense, and then we're 414 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 6: starting to see that integration from then translate to now 415 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 6: and it's only helped him quite a bit. But the reason, 416 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,239 Speaker 6: one more reason I think I would give too is 417 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 6: it would not surprise me if Jake Ferguson had a 418 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 6: one hundred yard two touchdown day at some point. It 419 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 6: would surprise me if Cavante Turpin had a one hundred 420 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 6: yard two touchdown day at some point. 421 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 3: Hamburgercia, I agree with everybody on here. 422 00:18:55,760 --> 00:19:01,719 Speaker 7: I think h ont To Turpin, I feel like he 423 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 7: has taken advantage of the opportunities that he was given 424 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 7: this season playing on the offense, but I feel like 425 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 7: he hasn't been enough, and he has those qualities that 426 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 7: can really benefit you in your offense overall because of 427 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 7: his quickness. That's one of the things with Ferguson to 428 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 7: me and I get it. We've had this debate, Derek, 429 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 7: where you he has had a decent season, but visually 430 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 7: and mentally from what I've seen. It hasn't been memorable, 431 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 7: not that the season has been memorable at all, really, 432 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 7: But as far as I just I there's more to 433 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 7: Jake Ferguson. I think he can do better, and we 434 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 7: didn't really get to see a lot of those great 435 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 7: plays that he has showcase in the past. But I 436 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 7: would say right now it's it's just it's not enough 437 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 7: to say that Turpin has taken over. 438 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 5: Got you should but he hasn't had a touch in 439 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 5: like six weeks. 440 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 2: Like I do it, they gave it. 441 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 3: He's like a stunt man. 442 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 2: That project is over. But he gets a lot of reps. 443 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 3: Get a lot of reps. Nick did brock Hoffman struggles 444 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 3: with Vida vea change your thoughts about him being a 445 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 3: full time starter at GUARD. 446 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 6: I don't think I ever fully considered him the full 447 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 6: time starter at GUARD. I think there's gonna have to 448 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 6: be an influx of competition there over the over the offseason, 449 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 6: whether that is adding a free agent or drafting a 450 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 6: guy in the first couple of days that can that 451 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 6: can compete for that spot. But yeah, he easily had 452 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 6: his worst day of the season against Vidave and Colijah Canci, 453 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 6: both of them Kancy had some wins against him as well, 454 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 6: but that's one of the better interior defensive lines in 455 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 6: the NFL. And if you know it's it's better to 456 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 6: struggle now, then if he is the starter next year, 457 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 6: then the struggle in Week sixteen next year. 458 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 3: So Ambar, did brock hoffman struggles with Vida Vea and 459 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 3: others change your thoughts about him being a full time 460 00:20:58,320 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 3: starter at guard? 461 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 7: No, I don't think so. I think we are all 462 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 7: humans and we all have bad days. No, But I 463 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 7: think in the overall everything we've seen for him, I'm 464 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 7: still more on the positive side of things. I'm still 465 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 7: intrigued and I want to see more of him. I 466 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 7: like what I've seen so far overall, and I think 467 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 7: that the more he gets to be out there, the 468 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 7: better he's going to get. And that you can say 469 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 7: about most players around the league, but with him, I 470 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 7: just he has this aggressiveness that I like about him. 471 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 7: He has the size and the power and honestly, nothing 472 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 7: like even with that game, it doesn't change my mind 473 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 7: and I want to see more Derek. 474 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know that it's changed for me just yet, 475 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 2: because even with a rough day, he's still only allowed 476 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 2: three pressures in half a sec. So that being said, 477 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't I don't know if I would 478 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 2: all of a sudden be like, oh, well, what he's 479 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 2: done the last few weeks don't matter. Now here's gonna 480 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 2: be The big test is this week when he plays Philadelphia. Yeah, 481 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 2: because he's following that game up with two of the 482 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 2: best defensive tackles again in the NFL. Sure, and I 483 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 2: want to see how he reforms there. If it's another 484 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 2: day where he struggles. Now, it does make me start 485 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 2: to rethink, mainly because Philadelphia is in your division. You 486 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 2: have to play them twice a year. Those guys aren't 487 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 2: going anywhere and if you if you're having bad days 488 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 2: against them, that's gonna be a problem. And so I 489 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 2: think the commanders too, Yeah, exactly. Yeah, So I think 490 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 2: you're gonna have some tests here where you can really 491 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 2: evaluate him and figure it out. And if he struggles 492 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 2: and those and I think, yeah, you have to really 493 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,959 Speaker 2: rethink it. If he does really well this weekend and 494 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 2: or next weekend, then I do think there's some real 495 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 2: consideration for maybe that's your right guard of the future, 496 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 2: and and you stick with that, and you kind of 497 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 2: just start going into this AF season thinking if if 498 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 2: Zach's gonna move on, he's the guy you're gonna replace him. 499 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 5: Tell you what, that would give you so much flexibility. 500 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 2: In the draft, no doubt, Agency, no doubt. 501 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 6: I'm rooting for Brock. I think he has the makeup 502 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 6: to be that right guard of the future. 503 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 3: Would you rather play at center and play BB on 504 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 3: the other side? From what you know from the college days. 505 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 5: I do love BB at guard. 506 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 6: I was I've been I don't know if I've said 507 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 6: this on on this show, but I've been kind of 508 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 6: getting back in my draft group chats over the last 509 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 6: couple of weeks, and we were just kind of riffing 510 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 6: a few weeks ago and somebody had asked, so, why 511 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 6: is Cooper BB not playing guard again? It was like, Yeah, 512 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 6: I kind of forgot that was even a possibility. He's like, 513 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 6: he was just so good at guard at Kansas State. 514 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 6: So I think that's something you play with and you 515 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 6: could figure out at camp if you really wanted to. 516 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 2: Brian, are you saying that you think and asking that question, 517 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 2: are you saying you think Brock is a better center than. 518 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 3: That's what I'm trying to say. I think that maybe 519 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 3: you would playhim at center, and. 520 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 2: So it's not so much about BB, it's about Hoffman. 521 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 3: Maybe that Hoffman would be a better center than guard. 522 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 2: Because I think BB can play center or guard and 523 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 2: be great. I think, I really do. 524 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 5: I think your better combination would probably be Hoffman at center. 525 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 3: And I think so too. Yeah, it just makes me 526 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 3: think about it, all right, Ambar, Jordan Lewis is your 527 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 3: defensive MVP this season? 528 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 7: That's a question that's like a statement. 529 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 3: I'm asking a question, Jordan Lewis is your defensive MVP 530 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 3: this season? 531 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 7: I would yes, I would say so. There are a 532 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 7: lot of guys that had done that have done a 533 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 7: really good things defensively, but he has been the most 534 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 7: consistent one, the healthier one, the one that has been 535 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 7: out there and consistently throughout the season. And what's more impressive, 536 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 7: and we've talked about this in the past, is looking 537 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 7: at where he's at in his career and seeing how 538 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 7: well he's playing. I'm saying, looking at he stayed here 539 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 7: with the Cowboys, the years that he's gone through with 540 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 7: injuries and not enough playing time, survived year after year 541 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 7: and still here and this has been so far his 542 00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 7: best career in the NFL. Oh, yes, give him the trophy. 543 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 7: I love Jordan Lewis. 544 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 2: Derek, He's my honorable mention. I got to give it 545 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 2: to Overshown. I know Overshown's missed the games. He's only 546 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 2: missed the last two games. 547 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 3: Is that right? 548 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 2: Two games? So it is. But but I will say 549 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 2: that throughout the course of this season, Overshown to me, 550 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 2: has made the plays that that matter. He's made plays 551 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 2: that matter. And no, don't get me wrong. I actually tweeted, 552 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 2: I think of all the guys that are going to 553 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 2: be free agents this year, I think George Jordan Lewis 554 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 2: is the best of all of them if you look 555 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 2: at how he played this year. But I think I 556 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 2: think it's it's kind of overshooting a little bit to 557 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 2: not acknowledge how great Overshown was for this defense this year. 558 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,239 Speaker 2: I thought he played really well. 559 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 5: I'd make him the m v P nick, I would 560 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 5: go with Michael Parsons. Still, I know he missed what 561 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 5: was it for games? 562 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, by week we comeback was revolutionary to this defense. 563 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 2: That's how important he is. It is if everybody that 564 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 2: was having those conversations about should they trade him or not, 565 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,959 Speaker 2: I think it became very clear how important he is 566 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 2: to this defense, right. 567 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so. 568 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 6: And I think if you look game by game, the 569 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 6: consistency that he's had all season, I think this has 570 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 6: been his most consistent season since he's been in the 571 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 6: league as far as generating pressure getting to the quarterback. Now, 572 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 6: how much of that is benefited by having those five 573 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 6: weeks off, Who knows, But I think whenever you talk 574 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 6: about the impact that he has had when he's been 575 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 6: on and off the field, I'd have to give it 576 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 6: to Micah, But Jordan Lewis is my close number two, 577 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 6: and gosh, i'd give Overshown like a two B. 578 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 5: It's all right there for me. 579 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 3: Like that, Derek Carl Lawson or Chauncey Golston. If you 580 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 3: can only afford one. 581 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 2: Chauncey Golston, why he's younger. I think he gives me 582 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 2: a little bit more and run defense as well as 583 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 2: past So I think I'd go with Chauncey. 584 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 6: I go Chohncey Golston. I like the physical nature he brings. 585 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 6: He's a little bit more versatile, he can still get 586 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 6: to the quarterback. 587 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 5: I would go Chauncey. 588 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 7: I agree, and my reason is different. It's I see 589 00:26:55,840 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 7: him integrate him better with the other guys around here. 590 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 7: And I'm talking about chemistry and I'm talking like relationships 591 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 7: in the locker room. Now that there's any conflict or whatsoever, 592 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 7: I just see the dynamics of that being better with him. 593 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 3: Is Is he their best free agent offseason signing Chauncey 594 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 3: last year? 595 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 5: I would give it to Eric Hendricks, get it. 596 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to think of all the free agents 597 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 2: they brought in Eric Kendricks. It's not a lot of them. 598 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 5: I'm trying to think of any others. 599 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not a lot Kendricks. 600 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,479 Speaker 3: All right, all right, uh ambar, I'll give you this 601 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 3: one here, this is the final one. Are you worried 602 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 3: that opponents these next two games, which is now play 603 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 3: with a loaded box to take away the running game 604 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 3: for the Cowboys had a lot of problems playing against that. 605 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 3: Against the Bucks, they just put that extra dude down 606 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 3: there in there and make you do something else. 607 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 7: I wouldn't say worried is the right word, because at 608 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 7: this point I ain't worry about nothing other than other 609 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 7: than just making sure people stay healthy and we don't 610 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 7: lose any other key player. Or anybody really due to injury. 611 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 7: But I would say even with that, even if you 612 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 7: take the running game away, I'm a little bit okay 613 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 7: with it because with this last two games, keep trying 614 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 7: through the air, keep throwing. I want to see what 615 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 7: you have in the passing game. And I know that 616 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 7: a lot of the passing game comes from the balance 617 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 7: that you've been able to find through the running game. 618 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 7: But we saw it this past weekend against Tampa Bay. 619 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 7: They took out the running game for you, you were 620 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 7: still able to manage through the passing game. I would 621 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 7: rather see what that looks like with the rest of 622 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 7: the receivers than be so much concerned about you running 623 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 7: the football in these last two games. 624 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 3: How about you, Nick, You're worried about them playing loaded 625 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 3: box against you the next two weeks. 626 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 6: Well, Tampa Bay told that Cowboys offense, Hey, we're gonna 627 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 6: have to let Cooper rush beat us, and Cooper rush 628 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 6: beat them. So I don't think I necessarily have any 629 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 6: concerns about about that. Granted, better secondary that you'll face 630 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 6: against the Eagles this upcoming weekend Washington, and it's probably 631 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 6: around the area of the Buccaneers. It depends on Lattimore's 632 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 6: health as well, but I think I think Dubdle can 633 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 6: still get his. But if they ask Cooper rush to 634 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:31,959 Speaker 6: to have to beat them, he's shown that he can 635 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 6: do that against against the talented front at least. 636 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of agree with the sentiments there. My 637 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 2: first question though, is do I have CD. Yeah, because 638 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 2: if they go to roud of what Amber's saying and 639 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 2: they sit him down, now, I'm really worried because I 640 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 2: don't think you have the receivers to really be able 641 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 2: to take. 642 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 3: Advantageway in that way, right. Yeah. 643 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 2: So but if CD's playing, yeah, absolutely, I feel like 644 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 2: they'll be fine if they take the running game because 645 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 2: with with what you have to do to take the 646 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 2: running game away, which is, you know, use extra resources 647 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 2: down there, that's gonna grace some opportunities. And I trust 648 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 2: after seeing this last game, that Cooper has a good 649 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,239 Speaker 2: shot to be able to take advantage of that if 650 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 2: you're going to do it. 651 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 3: Thank you very much, guys, appreciate you. 652 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 2: All Right, that was great. We're gonna tall our final break. 653 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 2: We will come back. We have some Christmas wishes here 654 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 2: in the Christmas spirit. We'll be back. Dallas Cowboys dot 655 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 2: Com radio. 656 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 14: If you can't be at the stadium, there's no better 657 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 14: way to watch your Cowboys than on an lg O 658 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 14: lead Evo TV. 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We are in the 712 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 2: final segment of the Break Life Nest WVC Morgan Studios 713 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 2: at the Star. This segment's brought to you by AT 714 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,040 Speaker 2: and T wow. 715 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 7: Ay tn T Connecting changes everything. 716 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 2: Thank you, Amber. Let's get to our Christmas wishes. 717 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 13: Uh. 718 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 2: It is the final show for the Christmas Break. We 719 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 2: won't be on tomorrow, but we'll be back on Thursday, 720 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 2: and Amber can tell us about all the great presents 721 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 2: she got. 722 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 5: Yeah got for Diego. 723 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 2: Yeah got for Diego. Not got got for Diego. 724 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 7: I didn't think Christmas could get more expensive. 725 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 6: Was Santa really good this year? Or is he going 726 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 6: to be good this year? I guess the question should. 727 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 7: Be yes, okay, which is crazy because, uh, you know, 728 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 7: he has not been good behaving. My Santa threats are 729 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 7: gonna goes one year and on the other he's okay. 730 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 5: It's like I know these guys threats, Like he's like, yeah, 731 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 5: don want. 732 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 2: All right, let's do some Christmas wishes. I'm gonna we'll 733 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 2: start with the offense. I want you guys to tell 734 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 2: me if you had one Christmas wish for this team 735 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 2: going into the future, going beyond where they are right 736 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 2: now and into the next season, what would that Christmas 737 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 2: wish be? What makes the biggest difference for them? 738 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 3: Oh? 739 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 6: Man, there's there's options here. I would go with a 740 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,439 Speaker 6: legit wide receiver to like I'm talking like a guy 741 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 6: who could go for a thousand yards in a season. 742 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 2: A wide receiver one to be out there with your 743 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 2: wide receiver exactly. 744 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, give me a wide receiver one be basically. 745 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 2: We're gone, We're got to give you a coach. We're 746 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 2: gonna get the coaching. We're not a coaching offense. His offense. 747 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 2: I'm talking off it's a personnel. Personnel off personnel that 748 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 2: was going to. 749 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 3: Be you could it's this is a really easy one 750 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 3: for me. It's it's health for your quarterback. That's the 751 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,919 Speaker 3: easiest way. Just get let him you know, when he's 752 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 3: when he's he played at an m v P level, 753 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 3: when he was able to play all the games, you know, 754 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 3: and now now you have some questions about you know, 755 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 3: his health. Hopefully he'll come back as good as new, 756 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 3: but you're gonna need you know, you're gonna need him 757 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 3: to be healthy for you to have legitimate shots. 758 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 7: M I mean health. Yeah, that applies. And I'm thinking 759 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 7: of like a healthy city LAMB as well next year. 760 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 7: Can I just talk about one aspect or don't have 761 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 7: to point out a single person. You can tell an 762 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 7: aspect the running game and because that we've seen this 763 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 7: season was a true showcase of what that looks like 764 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 7: when you do not have a running game, and when 765 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 7: your offense and when you're calling bad place, how that 766 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,399 Speaker 7: you struggle in that way. So I think being able 767 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 7: to have a good balanced offense and starting next year 768 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 7: with a good running game that you can trust and 769 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 7: be able to rely on, it's gonna be huge. 770 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 3: Well can I okay? Instead of saying the play caller, 771 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 3: could you focus it this way? Modern offense? Like a 772 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 3: modern like what we what we see in some of 773 00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 3: the these other clubs. Because Mike talks about thirty years 774 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 3: ago that this was, you know, he brings those things up. 775 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 3: But I was thinking, like, okay, well, I appreciate that 776 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 3: thirty years ago. You're right, I was part of Green Bay. 777 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 3: We ran the similar offense that you ran. But these 778 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 3: things evolve, you know. I just maybe a more instead 779 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 3: of just a play caller, maybe a more dynamic offense. 780 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 3: You know, that's kind of where I would maybe focus 781 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 3: instead of taking a shot at Mike like I did. 782 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about the defense. What will be your 783 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 2: wish for the defense? 784 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 3: Bring Mike Zimmer back, that would be my wish for 785 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 3: this defense. 786 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 6: He had a quote yesterday that I thought was very interesting, 787 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 6: and I'll go ahead and throw ou my Christmas wish. 788 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 5: Why I'm trying to pull this up. 789 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 6: I will go with a a game changing safety, just 790 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 6: a three or strong or does it matter either either 791 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 6: just a game changing safety. 792 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 3: I start from Georgia. 793 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, John A Baron from I think I think he 794 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 6: could play at safety. 795 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 3: And then it says he's like our guy Brian Branch 796 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:04,280 Speaker 3: from Detroit. 797 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you could. You could put him in the slot, 798 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 2: you can let him cover there. He can play safety. 799 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:09,399 Speaker 2: He could do a lot of things. 800 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,359 Speaker 3: Asked me, he goes, if you watched Brian Branch yet, 801 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 3: I said, yeah, a couple of years ago. No, at Texas. 802 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 3: The kid that plays at Texas. I was like, oh, okay. 803 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 3: He brought me up to speed on the kid. Ye 804 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 3: a good player. 805 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's there's some uh, there's there's some real comparison 806 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 6: to be made there. 807 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 2: So uh. 808 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 6: Edward Er asked Mike Zimmer yesterday if he's enjoying his 809 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 6: NFL return, and he kind of laughed and he was like, 810 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 6: it's been a blast, and he's like, it's been hard. 811 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 6: I'm not going to lie to you. And followed up 812 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 6: and asked if he's enjoyed it enough to coach again, 813 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 6: and he said, we'll see. Let's get to the end 814 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,360 Speaker 6: of the end of the year and see what happens. 815 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 5: So I think it's also. 816 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 3: Horses he's got he's got a horse that legitimly can 817 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 3: run in the Kentucky Derby. 818 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:50,240 Speaker 2: Wow. 819 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 3: So he Yeah, we might see Zimmer up there in 820 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 3: Millionaire's row like like, you know, just antagonizing everybody up there. 821 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,919 Speaker 5: That's incredible. So it's a Zimmer with his horses and skin, 822 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 5: you know, with the show dogs. 823 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 2: You know, that's the interesting thing for both for both 824 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 2: McCarthy and for Zimmer. Both of them have the ability 825 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 2: to say I don't choose to coach. I don't choose 826 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 2: to coach here. It's not just the simple thing of 827 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 2: will the Cowboys have them back? Like they both have 828 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 2: options as well. So that's that's what's going to make this, 829 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 2: I think really interesting. Is not so much to cowboys, 830 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 2: but do they want to be back here for another year? 831 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? 832 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:33,879 Speaker 7: Can I wish for health, for health for everybody? Well, 833 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 7: I'm trying to think because when we start talking about 834 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 7: the guys are about to become free agents free agent, 835 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,720 Speaker 7: it becomes a very interesting question because then it leaves 836 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 7: you with a lot of different holes throughout in all 837 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 7: three phases. So I would say, can I just mentioned 838 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,919 Speaker 7: free agency, like free agency as a key to how 839 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:05,720 Speaker 7: the Cowboys handle, uh, this defense, how they reinforced because 840 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 7: I don't think you can go into relying just on 841 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 7: young talent and going into the draft and relying on 842 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 7: the draft. I think that the veteran presence is key 843 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,320 Speaker 7: and necessary, and we've seen that with like Eric Kendricks. 844 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 7: He's a guy that's about to be free agent, DeMarcus Lawrence, 845 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 7: Jordan Lewis, Olsaudzua, and there's a list of other guys 846 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 7: that are about to be free agents as well, and 847 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 7: that's going to change completely how your defense looks as 848 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:39,399 Speaker 7: a whole. So I would say managing free agents the proper. 849 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 6: Way, more cap spaces, a Pro Bowl, one tech m 850 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 6: Just what do wonders for this defense? That would be incredible? 851 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 6: That's yeah, that's that's my new answer. 852 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 3: About a corner opposite Bland that would have. 853 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 5: Been I think they can figure that out. Yeah, I 854 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 5: think they can figure that out. 855 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 2: I think honestly, I think that's that was that to 856 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:00,800 Speaker 2: me has been a bigger p than anything else this 857 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,359 Speaker 2: season because everyone everyone that wants to talk about, well, 858 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 2: this team was healthy when they were losing early in 859 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 2: the season, they forget Deron Plan was not here. And 860 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 2: I think I think if you look at all those games, 861 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 2: a lot of the problems started with whoever was opposite Digs. 862 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 2: That's where a lot of the problems started. Now, they 863 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 2: had a lot of other problems as well, but I 864 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 2: think it started with that. And I think and I 865 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 2: think that's why the injuries matter all seasons, because you 866 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 2: lost a critical piece in Deny. In my opinion, Ron 867 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 2: Blands your best cornerback, and I think losing him heading 868 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,720 Speaker 2: into the season, I think that mattered. I think it mattered. 869 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 7: Well, you have the question marks about Trevon Diggs and 870 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 7: de Marvin rovers shown how they're gonna come back for 871 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 7: next season injury wise. 872 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 3: It thinks it's been two years now, I mean it's 873 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 3: been it seems like it's been forever since Diggs has played, 874 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,319 Speaker 3: you know, played for you now, two years. I mean 875 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,320 Speaker 3: you really didn't have him this year honestly. 876 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking at this offseason, I'm saying they might 877 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 2: need to draft a corner Yeah, relatively early, or at 878 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 2: least I. 879 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 3: Thought Carson maybe he can come back, can help, like 880 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:01,320 Speaker 3: you know, like we. 881 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,920 Speaker 7: Still like him. It was it was a hard walk 882 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 7: welcome into the NFL. 883 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,279 Speaker 3: No, it absolutely like it was like with Mozzi and Schoonmaker, 884 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,360 Speaker 3: and you know, I mean you threw the word busts 885 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 3: on those guys. And I know that that Mozzi and 886 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 3: Schoonmaker are higher drafted guys. But man Carson playing at 887 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 3: wake Forest was a very good player and he just 888 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 3: did not show that he you mentioned, it was very 889 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 3: It was very rude awakening for it. 890 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 2: They threw him out there real quick. And maybe that's it, 891 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 2: maybe he just needs more development time, but I know 892 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 2: it was. It was tough. It was really really tough, 893 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 2: and I hate to see that happen to him because 894 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 2: it may have ruined him. It may have mentally because 895 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 2: the cornerback is one of the positions. I think that mentally, 896 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 2: your your your level of confidence matters. And I hope 897 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,280 Speaker 2: it doesn't affect him going into the future. 898 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 6: Let me ask you first round, John A Baron or 899 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,279 Speaker 6: Malachi Starks a guy that could play anywhere in the 900 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 6: secondary and can just kind of fill a hole wherever 901 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 6: you need it to happen. 902 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 2: You don't, Oh yeah, that's an easy one for me. 903 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:57,279 Speaker 5: It's easy. 904 00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 2: If they got a shot at Baron, I think they 905 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:01,799 Speaker 2: be foolish not to because I think you can use 906 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 2: them in so many ways on this defense, and it 907 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,720 Speaker 2: can help you in so many different ways on this defense. 908 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:07,359 Speaker 2: I think that that will be the big one. 909 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 5: You're potentially parachuting. Get them, might have some fun there. 910 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 5: We'll see draft show in two weeks. 911 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 2: All right, real quick, just overall, this can be anything. 912 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,319 Speaker 2: This can be, this can be free agency, this can 913 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 2: be you know, whatever you want it to be. Just overall, 914 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 2: what would be your wish for this team? 915 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:30,759 Speaker 5: Huh? Overall wish man? Go ahead, go ahead? 916 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 3: No, I was sitting there thinking, listen, this is and 917 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 3: I don't know if this is gonna happen. If they 918 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 3: make a coaching change, please let it be extensive. 919 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 2: Please just just go just are you you say you 920 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 2: mean clear the whole slate? 921 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 3: No, no, no, going there with the attitude is we're 922 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 3: not interviewing one guy. 923 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 2: Oh, I see what you're saying. I give you go 924 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 2: and interview everybody. 925 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:53,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, go in there and go in there and figure 926 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 3: it out. And even if you're don't interested in some guys, 927 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,399 Speaker 3: talk to and get some ideas and stuff like that, 928 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 3: don't don't let it happen. And over dinner, you know, 929 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 3: and the next thing you know, you got a coach 930 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 3: I mean, now, maybe that's they maybe they got a 931 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 3: guy in mind already. But my wish is, if you're 932 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:12,319 Speaker 3: going to make a coaching change, please let it be 933 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 3: extensive and and and and talk to all the candidates. 934 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 7: I would say for me would be to please address 935 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 7: all the issues that you need to address. And I 936 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 7: know that's very widely and there's a lot to that, 937 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:32,799 Speaker 7: and it's hard to address every single thing, but that 938 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 7: we're we go into training camp knowing exactly what we 939 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 7: have in the sense that you address certain situation As 940 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,279 Speaker 7: an example, are we gonna be sitting there and I 941 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,320 Speaker 7: know Michael Parsons came out saying he's not gonna be 942 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,719 Speaker 7: holding out or anything, and he's gonna be showing up 943 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 7: at training camp, But are we sitting there wondering and asking, Hey, 944 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 7: is Michaeh Parson's gonna show up here? Is it gonna be? 945 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 16: Like? 946 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 7: Take care of what you need to take care so 947 00:43:56,120 --> 00:44:00,400 Speaker 7: that even if the season goes to crap again, you 948 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,759 Speaker 7: feel good that you really tried ahead of time to 949 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,320 Speaker 7: prepare yourself the best that you could. So that would 950 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 7: be my wish. It's hard to accomplish all and fill 951 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,800 Speaker 7: all the areas but I would say handle free agency 952 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,920 Speaker 7: how you need to address everything that you need through 953 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 7: through the draft, and then take care of the contract 954 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 7: that you need to take care of. You already did 955 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 7: dak CD. And the question mark now is Mika Parsonson's 956 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 7: what's gonna happen with him. 957 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,279 Speaker 6: I'm not gonna ask for much here from the wish. 958 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,400 Speaker 6: I'm like the forty five year old man that just 959 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 6: needs socks, and I really just need the socks, Like, babe, 960 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 6: just get me the socks. 961 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 5: That's all I need. 962 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 6: Overshown comes back and he's one hundred percent. Honestly, the 963 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:42,880 Speaker 6: health of this team comes back and it's one hundred 964 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 6: percent and it stays. That would be mine because when healthy, 965 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 6: this team is a competitor. 966 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,319 Speaker 5: It really is. We saw that last year, so. 967 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 2: I'm with you on that. 968 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 3: All right. 969 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 2: We appreciate you, guys, Jon and Goaues. We want you 970 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,880 Speaker 2: guys have a merry Christmas or whatever you sell it. 971 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,239 Speaker 2: A happy Yeah, I have a happy holiday season. We 972 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,320 Speaker 2: will be back on Thursday and we'll start looking forward 973 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,879 Speaker 2: Cowboys versus Eagles till they in for Nick Harris. Brian 974 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 2: brought us an Amber Garcia. 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