WEBVTT - Built from the Fire with Tiffany Haddish

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<v Speaker 1>My league bus has how to knowledge you want. My

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<v Speaker 1>league has how to knowledge you need.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they have out of books that the whole wild

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<v Speaker 2>world one up read Malague Buds. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to

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<v Speaker 2>Malik's Bookshelf, bringing a world together with books, culture and community.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, my name is Malik, your host of Malik's Bookshell.

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<v Speaker 4>Wooooo.

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<v Speaker 3>June was a captivating month.

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<v Speaker 2>I tell you, we hosted so many events here at

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<v Speaker 2>Malague Books. I was able to record some of these

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<v Speaker 2>events for my podcast. I was able to interview Nicolehannah Jones,

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<v Speaker 2>I interviewed Macari Sellers. I was also able to which

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a feature on this episode, Tiffany Haddish.

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't able to talk to Taraji p Henson, but.

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<v Speaker 2>We blew the event out the water, and I mean

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<v Speaker 2>it was a home run. The June Team Celebration, headlined

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<v Speaker 2>by Taraji Pte Henson was amazing, extraordinary, electric.

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<v Speaker 1>The community came out.

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<v Speaker 2>It was an awesome day of music, poetry, panel discussion, information,

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<v Speaker 2>free food, Junet, memorability of giving out and Taraji Pete

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<v Speaker 2>Henson this story time and I mean it was powerful.

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<v Speaker 1>The crowds was enormous.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we had at least eight to nine hundred

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<v Speaker 2>people that came out for this event.

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<v Speaker 3>Now throughout the event, the June team, it was more

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<v Speaker 3>than that.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm just speaking about the story time and book

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<v Speaker 2>signing part because this was a you know, from.

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<v Speaker 3>One to five four our event that took place.

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<v Speaker 2>But we had Taraji p at three o'clock doing storytime

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<v Speaker 2>and followed by the book signing, and it was incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>The line wrapped the round the mall again. But their

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<v Speaker 2>crowd downstairs, now everybody came, Not everybody came.

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<v Speaker 1>For the book signing.

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<v Speaker 2>They some came for the storytime, some came for storytime

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<v Speaker 2>book signing, some just came for the book signing. But

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<v Speaker 2>while they was doing the storytime, it was about seven

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<v Speaker 2>e hundred people standing downstairs. The line upstairs for people

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<v Speaker 2>waiting for her to come up into Elik Books because

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<v Speaker 2>we hosted her downstairs in the center court of Westville

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<v Speaker 2>COVID City story.

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<v Speaker 3>Timing that's where the Junior team celebration was taking place.

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<v Speaker 2>But upstairs, after that event, we escorted a back for

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<v Speaker 2>the book signing, more private, intimate environment, and the drummers

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<v Speaker 2>from Loyola Elementary were so powerful and touching. It moved

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<v Speaker 2>Rogie p Henson and she graciously signed all of their books.

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<v Speaker 2>First we as when she came up to do the

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<v Speaker 2>book signed all the kids that performed drums and dancing.

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<v Speaker 1>Was incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>They came right up behind her and she signed all

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<v Speaker 2>of their books and it was a wonderful, wonderful event,

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<v Speaker 2>amazing event. I love when we hit it out the park.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what we do, get voice to the voiceless. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>it just so happened. We helped to Rogie pet book.

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<v Speaker 5>You Can Be a Good Friend No Matter What, is

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<v Speaker 5>number one New York Times best seller, You Hurt Me,

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<v Speaker 5>the number one children book in the country, the New

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<v Speaker 5>York Times bestseller, You Can Be a Good Friend No

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<v Speaker 5>Matter What.

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<v Speaker 2>And elitite books helped make that possible because we sold

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<v Speaker 2>Hundredson huntreson hundreds.

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<v Speaker 3>Of her book and the line wrapped around the mall.

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<v Speaker 1>It was incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>It was amazing and I'm still high from the event.

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<v Speaker 2>But we also but I'm moving on, moving on. We

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<v Speaker 2>also this month hosted Bacari Sellers. Like I said, we

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<v Speaker 2>also hosted Nicole Hannah Jones, which was ahead at the

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<v Speaker 2>Miracle Theater upcoming in August thirteenth. Jay Ellis wrote a

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<v Speaker 2>book in that and right now, that book and in

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<v Speaker 2>front of me.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not even gonna try to. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a book.

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<v Speaker 2>About you know, growing up and having an imagined and

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<v Speaker 2>every friend. But I be honest, I don't recall the title,

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<v Speaker 2>so I won't even try. But Jay Ellis in conversation

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<v Speaker 2>with Easter Ray is going down August thirteenth at the

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<v Speaker 2>Miracle Theater at seven pm.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a book launch party.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a book signing, photo op and after a party.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going down Elite books dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>The reserve your tickets. We got VIP which includes floor seating, books, signed,

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<v Speaker 3>photo op, after party.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't beat that.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on, we're gonna party. We're gonna have a good time,

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<v Speaker 3>all right.

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<v Speaker 2>But another person that flew under the radar was an

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<v Speaker 2>event that we hosted that week called Built from the

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<v Speaker 2>Fire by Look by Victor Lukinson. Now this event was

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<v Speaker 2>epic because it kicked off our June team celebration, to

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<v Speaker 2>be honest, before Saturday. Because this went down Tuesday night

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<v Speaker 2>at Malik Books and we had the Descendants from the

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<v Speaker 2>Miracle I'm sorry, the Descendants from the Dreamland Theater two

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<v Speaker 2>of them that was related to the owner in the

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<v Speaker 2>house and talked to talk about, you know, the history

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<v Speaker 2>of Greenwood and them being a descendant of the owner

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<v Speaker 2>of the Greenwood Theater. The book the book Built from

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<v Speaker 2>the Fire, the epic story of TSA's Greenwood District, America's

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<v Speaker 2>Black Wall Street one hundred years in the neighborhood that

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<v Speaker 2>refused to be a race by Victor Luckerson, and he

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<v Speaker 2>just talked about the history then and the history now,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was very brilliant, sounded like a professor. We

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<v Speaker 2>just had a wonderful time. The whole Pinel discussion was

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<v Speaker 2>moderated by Shiva Turk. She's an anchor on CBA CBS

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<v Speaker 2>morning show that call k Kyle and you know she's

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<v Speaker 2>from New Orleans now she's in LA she's author herself

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<v Speaker 2>and she's a morning anchor. She's doing great things and

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<v Speaker 2>she was the host and it was just a wonderful

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<v Speaker 2>conversation about Greenwood and.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a wonderful time to go on.

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<v Speaker 2>Over that history and reminiscing off of yesterday, but more

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<v Speaker 2>importantly about what's happening now. What's happening now, And one

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<v Speaker 2>of the things that was touched on was just recently

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<v Speaker 2>a lawsuit was thrown out of I believe one of

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<v Speaker 2>the courts. I don't know if it's state or federal,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was several three or four descendants. They're still

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<v Speaker 2>alive from the murder and my security that took place

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen twenty one in Toasa, Oklahoma, and the lawsuit

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<v Speaker 2>was thrown out. It's not like you giving money to

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<v Speaker 2>a descendant. You giving money now, the money ain't gonna

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<v Speaker 2>make you or ain't gonna bring back the house. It

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<v Speaker 2>ain't gona bring back to people who's murder, but it

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<v Speaker 2>can't help make you whole. And that's why you have lawsuits.

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<v Speaker 2>These descendants are still around, they in their hundreds and

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<v Speaker 2>they was part of this lawsuit and the government threw

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<v Speaker 2>it out because they didn't want a president to take

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<v Speaker 2>place of president to take prace because it would be

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<v Speaker 2>kind of the first in a way of reparations for

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<v Speaker 2>people who have been persecuted, oppressed, property taken, and.

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<v Speaker 1>So much more.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet, they proved the case beyond a shadowble doubt why

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<v Speaker 2>this case should go forward, But yet the government made

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<v Speaker 2>some kind of ruling to kick it out because they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want this case to go to court in them win,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it will be used all across this nation

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about a very important topic, which is reparation.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not just a looning tune controversy or some

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<v Speaker 2>made up term that don't have no meaning and don't

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<v Speaker 2>have no importance. Listen, We're talking about a country who

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<v Speaker 2>enslaved and they want to avoid this topic, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>a hot topic. Come on now, they don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about the oppression and enslavement that took place with

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<v Speaker 2>Black Americans. This country has been the greatest enemy to

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<v Speaker 2>the oppression of black people, and this government had gave

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<v Speaker 2>an umbrella to every corporation and every individual in America

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<v Speaker 2>to take part in crimes against humanity, enslavement of black people,

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<v Speaker 2>and they don't want to address the atrocities.

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<v Speaker 3>I heard one report, if America.

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<v Speaker 2>Was to give reparations to black people, we'd be talking

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<v Speaker 2>about one hundred trillion dollars. You know, much money the

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<v Speaker 2>insurance companies made and profited. You know how much money

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<v Speaker 2>major corporations in America made and profited off of slavery.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of these countries, a lot, I'm sorry, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of these companies made their wealth off the backs

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<v Speaker 2>of slave labor or slave wages. And so we cannot

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<v Speaker 2>forget that reparations is a legitimate argument, and it shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be because the people in power today inherited the wealth

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<v Speaker 2>of America yesterday, and yet they don't want to find

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<v Speaker 2>a way to make black people who are descendants of

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<v Speaker 2>that oppression and enslavement hold And it's a legitimate argument,

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<v Speaker 2>and we not need not to. You can agree with

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<v Speaker 2>it or not, but it don't say it's not a

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<v Speaker 2>legitimate argument because to say that it's to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was about to cuss, but is shi t on

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<v Speaker 2>the descendants of enslavement and.

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<v Speaker 1>Oppression of America.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think it's important that we find a way

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<v Speaker 2>to argue this in a legal way. But it appears

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<v Speaker 2>that warfare in this country is something that is practiced.

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<v Speaker 3>In the way of law. It is called law.

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<v Speaker 2>Fare, and they use the judicial system as a weapon

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<v Speaker 2>against the oppressed people of America.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's something that has.

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<v Speaker 2>Been being practice for quite some time when comes to

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<v Speaker 2>black people where and others in America where it just

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<v Speaker 2>quite don't fit the direction and agenda and the narrative

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<v Speaker 2>that they want to take place.

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<v Speaker 3>And so lawfare is just using the judicial system to.

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<v Speaker 2>Raise havoc in war on the people that they don't

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<v Speaker 2>like or they want to undermine. This lawfair was done

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<v Speaker 2>on black organizations, on black leaders all across this nation,

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<v Speaker 2>but nobody wants to talk about it because of the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that it's hard to prove. It's hard to prove.

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<v Speaker 3>But where our rights stop in this country, White.

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<v Speaker 1>America rights begin, and that's been the.

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<v Speaker 2>Double standard of America that we have been fighting hard

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<v Speaker 2>to change.

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<v Speaker 3>Black people have died to try to bring unity.

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<v Speaker 1>And peace in this nation, only to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Shot down, ridiculed, imprisoned, made mockery of the media viserating them,

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<v Speaker 2>made them sound like they have mental illness.

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<v Speaker 1>All of these things have taken place in America and

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<v Speaker 1>we should.

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<v Speaker 2>Not allow the country off just because we've made progress.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a debt that is old and we need

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<v Speaker 2>to get powerful enough to claim what is rightfully old

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<v Speaker 2>to us because of the oppression and enslavement that was

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<v Speaker 2>done to us in America. There are tons of books

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<v Speaker 2>to show it, and I don't have enough time to

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<v Speaker 2>go on to that and won't, but as a bookstore

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<v Speaker 2>owner Malik Books, we got tons of books that talk

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<v Speaker 2>about reparation and the atrocities that have taken place in

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<v Speaker 2>America that most Americans, I can assure you are not

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<v Speaker 2>aware of. And they simply put Obama Care is not

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<v Speaker 2>sufficient for payment for four hundred years of enslavement and oppression.

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<v Speaker 2>Plain and shupple and free education to go to your

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<v Speaker 2>elementary and high schools is.

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<v Speaker 3>Not payment to for what enslavement.

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<v Speaker 2>And oppression this country has done to Black people. We

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<v Speaker 2>are not gonna let you off the hook just because

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<v Speaker 2>we might have produced out of the wickedness of the

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<v Speaker 2>past of America, someone like a Beyonce or a Denzel

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<v Speaker 2>Washington or all Taraji p Henson or.

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<v Speaker 3>Spike Lee.

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<v Speaker 1>I can go on and on. Yes, we have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of individuals that.

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<v Speaker 2>Have achieved enormous success in this country because of their

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<v Speaker 2>hard work and belief in themselves. But that does not

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<v Speaker 2>excuse this country from the onslaught and incarceration and the

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<v Speaker 2>oppression of hundreds and hundreds of thousands and millions of

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<v Speaker 2>oppressed Black people who just have not found a way

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<v Speaker 2>to be successful. So that's you know, that's my thoughts.

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<v Speaker 2>And I say built from the fire last because it

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<v Speaker 2>was fire that elevated our rise and our success in

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<v Speaker 2>America despite the enslavement, no pressure. That's what the sixteen

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<v Speaker 2>nineteenth project, the New organ Story by Nicole Hannah Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>Is all about.

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<v Speaker 3>It's about the achievements and the resilience of us in America.

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<v Speaker 1>And I am for reparations. Simply put.

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<v Speaker 2>It is old to us because of what I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think in a lotment of money.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get this straight.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of different views about how reparations should be

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<v Speaker 2>adminished to the basses, but I will say this, it

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<v Speaker 2>has to be used to.

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<v Speaker 1>Solve the damage.

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<v Speaker 3>It can't solve it.

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<v Speaker 2>Just giving people a check ain't gonna solve the data.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people all just give me a check.

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<v Speaker 1>What you're gonna do with it?

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<v Speaker 3>Turn around and buy the Bentley, turn around and buy

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<v Speaker 3>you all.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of these frivolous things with the money that don't

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<v Speaker 2>bring wealth.

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<v Speaker 1>We need generation of wealth.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to be able to say all the damage

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<v Speaker 2>that was done, that's the purple.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's the tricky part, that's the hard part.

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<v Speaker 2>And it ain't do but part of the reparation it

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<v Speaker 2>has to be the solve a generation of issues, the

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<v Speaker 2>teenage pregnancy, the low scores on SATs and proficiency tests.

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<v Speaker 2>All the issues plaguing Black of Murray, the trauma, the

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<v Speaker 2>all the the mental issues that exist within our community,

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<v Speaker 2>the abuse as we see h P. Dady beating on

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<v Speaker 2>someone and normalizing this behavior and getting away with it

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<v Speaker 2>and everybody around.

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<v Speaker 1>Them not speaking up.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, these are the kind of things that the

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<v Speaker 2>Reparations has to solve.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to solve the problem with self.

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<v Speaker 2>Hatred and lack of love of self, so, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we it has to solve that. If nothing else, then

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<v Speaker 2>that has to be at the forefront to solve a

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<v Speaker 2>generation of traumatized people and bring them hole and try

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<v Speaker 2>to help them to live a life of peace and prosperity.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm a feature also on this episode. My conversation

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<v Speaker 2>I had with Tiffany Hadis. We just hosted her at

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<v Speaker 2>Malik Books. Her new book I Curse You with Joy

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<v Speaker 2>was amazing and incredible, and we had a wonderful opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>to talk with her as well, and I want to

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<v Speaker 2>feature that's you know, when I get a chance to

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<v Speaker 2>have a conversation with some of the authors, I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>take that opportunity. So while she was signing some stock,

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<v Speaker 2>I got a chance to talk to her directly, and

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<v Speaker 2>I want to feature that on this episode.

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<v Speaker 3>So enjoy, enjoy this episode because I know I did.

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<v Speaker 1>Peace.

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<v Speaker 6>I thank you for having me. It's so nice in

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<v Speaker 6>year smell like Broach's a beautiful This is the community

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<v Speaker 6>book store.

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<v Speaker 4>I love it. I love it.

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<v Speaker 7>In my favorite by too, the former Fox Hills mam Aka.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right now, Westfield, Coba City.

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<v Speaker 2>But Tiffany had is I ain't in here, and we

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<v Speaker 2>turned up signs boat.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I can't believe I was dshing.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe.

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<v Speaker 2>Today it was turned up, turned up boat music. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's where I'm from. D c you from l a

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<v Speaker 2>HEAs toacht me the West coast all day, all day. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>right here at the Belief Books. We got signed copy

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<v Speaker 2>telling people where they can come get them sign.

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<v Speaker 7>You could come get your signed copy of I Curse

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<v Speaker 7>You with Joy written by me. Tiffany had its right

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<v Speaker 7>here at Melick's Books at the Westfield cover City comp.

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<v Speaker 4>Now I know that if I feels.

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<v Speaker 7>Up here, you know, guys on the stick talking to boys.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a good time.

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<v Speaker 7>And yes, get the cookies and all that. And then

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<v Speaker 7>we come in the bookstore. David it wasn't no bookstore.

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<v Speaker 6>Then no.

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<v Speaker 4>In the house.

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<v Speaker 7>Now's the house now in the twenty two zero zeros.

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<v Speaker 4>Right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes here I am.

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<v Speaker 2>Now this is a book you told me before I

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<v Speaker 2>curse you with George. But something that's nearing there, minoir.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't talk about I don't talk about nothing I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know about. So I'm talking about all the things

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<v Speaker 2>I know about, especially.

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<v Speaker 7>These last few years.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 7>It basically just you know, shows you where my mind

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<v Speaker 7>is at right now, where where my intentions are, where

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<v Speaker 7>I'm going, where I've come from. What I wish people

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<v Speaker 7>would have told me back in the day by have

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<v Speaker 7>sag my little spirit a little bit. But you know what,

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<v Speaker 7>sometimes gotta live and we gotta learn, and I did,

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<v Speaker 7>and I share about that in this book.

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<v Speaker 4>It seems like to me, you know, just success ain't

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<v Speaker 4>go to your head. Did you not sell yeah, love

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<v Speaker 4>a boat? Yeah, hug a boat?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeahs show none but love? As you signed the books

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<v Speaker 4>today with the people. You didn't let success change you,

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<v Speaker 4>did you?

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<v Speaker 3>Nah?

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<v Speaker 7>Now, success didn't change.

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<v Speaker 4>Me, yes, uh huh, it does so many other people.

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<v Speaker 7>It changes a lot of people. I feel like, uh,

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<v Speaker 7>because it can be scary you know. But you know,

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<v Speaker 7>I lived in fear all my childhood.

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<v Speaker 4>So what am I scared of now?

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<v Speaker 7>I didn't have no control then, so it makes sense then.

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<v Speaker 7>But I got control now, so wonderful.

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<v Speaker 4>From foster home to success. Yeah, yeah, you got a

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<v Speaker 4>story to tell me. I got a story I cursed

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<v Speaker 4>you with George telling you.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, we all got stories to tell. If everybody just

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<v Speaker 7>wrote their own damn book, maybe we would learn not

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<v Speaker 7>to mess up.

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<v Speaker 4>No more all about that.

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<v Speaker 7>Maybe we could save each other's lives if we shared

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<v Speaker 7>our stories. Some stories might be t m I, but

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<v Speaker 7>that TM I gonna help you in the long run.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just saying absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>I shared my chapter in my books The Heart of

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<v Speaker 2>a Black Man Stories Resilience.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, thirty of us collaborated. Oh I like it.

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<v Speaker 7>So that's thirty hearts, thirty Heart, thirty Hearts of a

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<v Speaker 7>black Man.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, telling our sharing our story.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, are any of those singles?

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<v Speaker 4>Because I read it? Which one ain't? Got no wife?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 4>Sure?

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<v Speaker 2>Some mom say, you know of keaven a healthy and

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<v Speaker 2>long standing relation. That's a tough crack cookie to try.

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<v Speaker 2>I know people ask you about relationship advice all the time.

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<v Speaker 7>No, I don't ask me about relationship advice because they

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<v Speaker 7>know that I don't maintain tho I maintain, I do ain't.

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<v Speaker 4>Take relationships just not sexual. Yes, yes, yeah I get boy.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank somebody need to turn up, show up and keep you.

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<v Speaker 2>Engaged that par engagements yes, yes, yes that's what's you

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<v Speaker 2>heard it lot right here at Malie Book Tiffany Hodey

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<v Speaker 2>talking to my day. Thank you, thank you, thank you,

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