Speaker 1: Welcome to All the Smoke, a production of The Black
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Speaker 1: back Man, season two of All the Smoke. We got
Speaker 1: a real special guys, what's up with your Brodie with
Speaker 1: the virtual head shake. I'm gonna tell you I never
Speaker 1: told go back. I want welcome back to another edition
Speaker 1: All the Smoke. Jack. What's going on? Bro? My brother,
Speaker 1: we're back. What's going on? Man? I can't call him man,
Speaker 1: just getting through the day. It's my my week with
Speaker 1: the kids, so it's NonStop twins. Ashton running around the
Speaker 1: house opening everything. So I got a little pit stop
Speaker 1: real quick to uh knock this interview out today. Man,
Speaker 1: how's everything out there? Man? Everything's good? And speaking of
Speaker 1: ash you know Sky's running around with Speaking of ash
Speaker 1: my man, take a showers already, Bro, it's crazy. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: He like a little key like he can't get the
Speaker 1: soap in his head. But once I get the soap
Speaker 1: in his hand, he could rub it on his body.
Speaker 1: But he told me the other day, said daddy know
Speaker 1: and like shut the ship on me like he loves
Speaker 1: like when I say this is shower time. This broke
Speaker 1: this dude, will you know, make his way upstairs, fast
Speaker 1: up the stairs, you know how to take his diaper off,
Speaker 1: clothes off, and he's ready, so it's solid. At least
Speaker 1: I know it's gonna be clean. But anyway, man, they
Speaker 1: appreciate that, thank you very much. But we got man
Speaker 1: two time NBA champ, if I'm not mistaken, the only
Speaker 1: person in the history of the NBA to win a
Speaker 1: ring with the Boston Celtics in the Los Angeles Lakers
Speaker 1: just recently signed a two year deal with the Atlanta Hawks.
Speaker 1: Welcome and region Rondo appreciate. It's what's up nine, How
Speaker 1: are you? Yeah, we're supposed to do this and we're
Speaker 1: supposed to do this interview last week, but he was
Speaker 1: he was on vacation. The WiFi was spotty, so we
Speaker 1: we we had to push this. But I'm glad we
Speaker 1: finally were able to track you down and yeah, wherever
Speaker 1: you was, but you had you had some lions and
Speaker 1: tigers and bass showing on the Wi Fi car and
Speaker 1: I don't know where you It was horrible, So I'm
Speaker 1: glad we had to get rescheduled and got this thing
Speaker 1: going to that. Well, let's get to it. You know,
Speaker 1: you come off a championship with the Los Angeles Lakers. Uh,
Speaker 1: what what years schooling you're going into? What year going
Speaker 1: into year fifteen? What was your deciding factor, um to
Speaker 1: go back to the Lakers or take a little more
Speaker 1: lucrative deal um with Atlanta. Not one prior to his family,
Speaker 1: So for me to be close to my family more
Speaker 1: on the East Coast. Um, and then obviously playing for
Speaker 1: a young organization, helping a lot of these young guys out.
Speaker 1: You know, they made a couple of me to call
Speaker 1: and you know, once it was over, as far as
Speaker 1: the free agency signing, Uh, they gave me a call.
Speaker 1: I'm talking how much they wanted me there and they
Speaker 1: wanted to learn from me. So, um, I'm glad I
Speaker 1: made a decision being able to to be a veteran
Speaker 1: the trade younger going into this knowing how much you're
Speaker 1: gonna mentor him, and that's being players. We know the
Speaker 1: education you're gonna give him. Hi high expiring. How excited
Speaker 1: are you to going to be able to give that
Speaker 1: game to to one of the stars, upcoming stars in
Speaker 1: the game. I'm very excited. Uh. You know, we've been
Speaker 1: in the gym a couple of times already h just
Speaker 1: kind of picking each other's brain and getting up some
Speaker 1: shots together. So, uh, he seems like a sponge and
Speaker 1: I'm ready to give him whatever I have, obviously trying
Speaker 1: to lead him to the best point guarding could possibly
Speaker 1: be and this understanding different dynamics of the game. So
Speaker 1: I'm excited to teach him and all the other young
Speaker 1: guys as well. But I think it's great too from
Speaker 1: a standpoint, and you're gonna allow him to do more
Speaker 1: of what Steph gets to do, and we'll just play
Speaker 1: off the ball and come off screens and be able
Speaker 1: to catch the you know, to pick a row off
Speaker 1: the side on the run. Is that everyone loading up
Speaker 1: to him up top, So I think obviously similar to
Speaker 1: what I feel like CP is gonna do with Devin Booker.
Speaker 1: You guys got two young monsters next to you, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys are gonna both enjoy, you know,
Speaker 1: that opportunity of passing all your knowledge of the game,
Speaker 1: because you're one of the greatest minds that ever played
Speaker 1: this game. Man. So I'm excited because I think low
Speaker 1: Ki Atlanta's done really well and Free Agency to me,
Speaker 1: that done really well. We we definitely did I would
Speaker 1: say that. So I'm excited. You know, I'm always I
Speaker 1: loved undogment tally and being against a lot. So I'm
Speaker 1: looking forward to the challenge this year and getting us
Speaker 1: to where we need to be. So are you are?
Speaker 1: You guys are out in the landing now. You mentioned
Speaker 1: before you are you settled in yet? You ready? Because
Speaker 1: I mean everything is right around the corner. I'm not
Speaker 1: settled in yet, but I'm about a week away. Like
Speaker 1: it's still getting everything there and close ship from Cali
Speaker 1: and getting better get I'm almost close. Mm hmm. What
Speaker 1: was it like? Um? You know, as I mentioned at
Speaker 1: the top of the show, you want a championship for
Speaker 1: the Boston Celtics. You won a championship for the Los
Speaker 1: Angeles Lakers. Has it kind of sunk in yet? Obviously?
Speaker 1: You still have more time? And until I finished, I
Speaker 1: didn't really kind of look back at anything I had done.
Speaker 1: But has it kind of sunk in that you won
Speaker 1: a championship for the two greatest franchises in the sports history.
Speaker 1: It's definitely sunk in, but you know it's still being
Speaker 1: active right now. It's you know, my my main focus
Speaker 1: is obviously now going into the season so quickly is
Speaker 1: the Hawks and helping us grow as much as possible.
Speaker 1: But um, you know, I see it. I hear it
Speaker 1: every day, understanding that what I've accomplished, but it still
Speaker 1: hasn't really hit it sunk in for the most part.
Speaker 1: But I'm definitely aware and grateful with an opportunity to
Speaker 1: be able to just play this game for so long
Speaker 1: and one of two most story franchise in history. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, it's definitely a blessing to do what I
Speaker 1: did in my career so far. What what has it
Speaker 1: been like? You know, just just being you know, being
Speaker 1: the champion again. Like you know, I got a chance
Speaker 1: to experience Matt, Matt got a chance to experience. But
Speaker 1: being able to to be back at the top, being
Speaker 1: at the mountaintop twice. You know, how does that feel
Speaker 1: this the second go around? Uh? For me, it's even better.
Speaker 1: You know you obviously guys you saw it. It's crazy
Speaker 1: quick story. When I went back in uh oh eight,
Speaker 1: the house son, Eddie house Son was always on the
Speaker 1: sidelines and around and U you know, I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: it'd be dope, you know what I mean? Like if
Speaker 1: I had the opportunity to do the same thing, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I wanted to you know,
Speaker 1: wanting kids earlier, I had kids. My son is nine now,
Speaker 1: and you know, for m to be able to coome
Speaker 1: experienced that in the bubble let alone. We want to
Speaker 1: back last year when I hit the game, when you
Speaker 1: shot against the Celtics, he was there, you know, on
Speaker 1: the floor. So you know, for him to be able
Speaker 1: experience that, you know, full circle, like you manifest that,
Speaker 1: you know, nine, ten years later or twelve years later. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, they come full circle. It was definitely a
Speaker 1: surreal moment to be able to have been there with
Speaker 1: me celebrate my second championship. So winning one at now
Speaker 1: and thirty four, and it's a big difference, you know,
Speaker 1: Like I said, there's having people around me that I love,
Speaker 1: being able to witness and experience experience that as well
Speaker 1: with me. So it's been a hell of a run.
Speaker 1: You know, leaving the bubble was it is what it is.
Speaker 1: But after leaving, you know, I enjoyed myself in a
Speaker 1: nice vacation. We celebrated with the team, We kicked it
Speaker 1: with you know, a couple of days and a couple
Speaker 1: of different cities and just enjoying life every moment. You
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta blow that picture up though, which with
Speaker 1: you and your son on the court, that has to be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And if you ever decided to drop the out at
Speaker 1: uh like like like we did a little quarantine, packed
Speaker 1: up on songs, that gotta be the comer that guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a was a beautiful picture. It's funny you
Speaker 1: said that because that was my best experience. Obviously I
Speaker 1: got hurt going into the playoffs and and and and
Speaker 1: didn't play as much obviously as I'd want to, and
Speaker 1: when I won a championship, but the best thing was
Speaker 1: that the twins were there, so, you know, Steve Kerr
Speaker 1: let them fly on the plane and go to practice
Speaker 1: with us being the hotels, be in the locker room,
Speaker 1: be on the sideline, and when we had an opportunity
Speaker 1: to win it, these two little dudes are up next
Speaker 1: to Stephan Clay trying to hold the championship trophy and
Speaker 1: try to get the m v P trophy from from
Speaker 1: from KD. You know what I mean. So that was
Speaker 1: the best moment. That's still when I talk about it,
Speaker 1: what gives me chills about it is because that's something
Speaker 1: you can't pay for that's something you can. Unless you're
Speaker 1: in the moment, you'll never understand what it means to
Speaker 1: that kids. Uh in a little side, No, I think
Speaker 1: a great thing. He's just your Your son is the
Speaker 1: same age the twins were when we wanted and I
Speaker 1: got them championship rings for Christmas and they lost their minds.
Speaker 1: So I know they may they may replica little rings too.
Speaker 1: If you need an idea for a Christmas president, just
Speaker 1: want to throw that out there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what's up. You mentioned real quickly, which I thought was
Speaker 1: an interesting because we haven't really talked about this, was
Speaker 1: leaving the bubble. What was it like going back into society,
Speaker 1: because you guys, I mean although you you know, you
Speaker 1: had an injury, you went and then you left and
Speaker 1: then you came back. But after being in the bubble,
Speaker 1: just the whole overall process, what was it like leaving?
Speaker 1: It was definitely different. You know, um, you know, I
Speaker 1: might even always adjusted my environment wherever the case may be.
Speaker 1: So I kind of got right back to it. Um.
Speaker 1: I went home to put it with the kids for
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. I actually went to Miami chill
Speaker 1: for a couple of days, went back to l A
Speaker 1: and just kind of just kept it moving, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I'm really a home body, So you
Speaker 1: got the kids around, went to the house. Obviously during
Speaker 1: COVID you can't do much anyway, so we kind of
Speaker 1: chilled and relaxed. Uh, you know, I got in some water,
Speaker 1: and then I took my vacation, so I was right
Speaker 1: back to it. And like you said, I was home
Speaker 1: for six weeks, so I don't have to go through
Speaker 1: as much as my teammates did. So you know, I'm
Speaker 1: just you know, in a in a certain sense, you know,
Speaker 1: I was kind of blessed as far allting to go
Speaker 1: through it that endured that that long time. But I
Speaker 1: think it was hunt into or three days. So I
Speaker 1: got to go home, come back, and it's kind of
Speaker 1: just locking in and go from there and just focus
Speaker 1: on the goal. I kind of got a restart. I
Speaker 1: don't know if it was rumors or not, but I
Speaker 1: heard you had questioned even coming back after that thumb injury.
Speaker 1: Was it What was that rumors or was that true?
Speaker 1: Or Um? I had questions. I wasn't even thinking about
Speaker 1: going into the bubble initially. UM, you know, that was
Speaker 1: the thought in my mind during the quarantine times, like
Speaker 1: I said this, I want to be closer to my fan.
Speaker 1: But after I broke my thumb, I didn't have doubts
Speaker 1: or it's not that I didn't want to come back.
Speaker 1: It was just a matter of you know, this is
Speaker 1: my third surgery on my right hand two years, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it was kind of understanding
Speaker 1: like I gotta now, I gotta figure out what's my
Speaker 1: bone density in my hands? Like so I gotta I
Speaker 1: think differently of how I gotta protect my body and
Speaker 1: you know, be able to understand whatever you know I
Speaker 1: do to me. You can said that, you know, we
Speaker 1: got a little we got a little a stegment we got.
Speaker 1: We were talking about the point guards and we call
Speaker 1: a point guards and you're a point guard. You can
Speaker 1: said that you fall into that point guard category. What
Speaker 1: was it like bringing point guard Rondo playoff Rondo back
Speaker 1: in the bubble? It was It was amazing. It was
Speaker 1: an unbelievable feeling, you know, just the mindset and the
Speaker 1: mentality that I had going into the bubble. I was
Speaker 1: able to completely focus everything I had into the game,
Speaker 1: you know, me to my distractions and like I said,
Speaker 1: being a bubble help, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: it's it's there's so much we can do. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not really a gamer. We started, I started actually
Speaker 1: when I come back and breaking my hand, I started
Speaker 1: a game with the guys. But when we lost our
Speaker 1: first game, I was pissed and I couldn't really focus
Speaker 1: on game anymore. So you know, I was kind of
Speaker 1: locked in with the game plan and understanding what we
Speaker 1: can do to win and dominate the game. So for me,
Speaker 1: it was just a straight mentality just to you know,
Speaker 1: try to get it done. That was the goal going
Speaker 1: into the season. That was the expectations for me and
Speaker 1: what I had for the team, and we all had
Speaker 1: the same goal. So our attention to detail what Frank
Speaker 1: was able to do with us in the bubble, and
Speaker 1: like I said during film, how guys were able to
Speaker 1: learn so quickly on the fly without even going through
Speaker 1: it on the court really, you know, I mean we
Speaker 1: have a five ten minute walk through, but it was
Speaker 1: it was light. You know, we had on hoodies, flip
Speaker 1: flops like it wasn't you know what I mean, like
Speaker 1: a tape walk through anything like it. Like I said,
Speaker 1: we was picking up on the flight, going to the
Speaker 1: game and making quick adjustments. M hm, you don't do
Speaker 1: you like when they call you play off Rondo like
Speaker 1: you're someone different? See um Max I did the first day.
Speaker 1: I think in Max he broke it down differently on
Speaker 1: why people consider that. But my main thing is, you know,
Speaker 1: and you have a couple of days of rest, you
Speaker 1: have a couple of days of preparation, being able to
Speaker 1: lock in on one team. You know, I think, you know,
Speaker 1: everybody can ever reate their game in a sense. You know,
Speaker 1: it's about the dedication or the knowledge of the game
Speaker 1: to some levels. But when you have those things that
Speaker 1: come into play, it is easy. And also you know,
Speaker 1: during the playoffs, look at my career, I pretty much
Speaker 1: got more time in the playoffs, and I believe that's
Speaker 1: when coaches allow me to. You know, I would say,
Speaker 1: like I said, I said, to be a magician with
Speaker 1: the ball and manipulate the game. Put people in spots
Speaker 1: to where I know a guy's gonna make a mistake
Speaker 1: weak side, and I can, you know, put my best
Speaker 1: shooter there if I want to get him the shot.
Speaker 1: So it's just I feel like that's what coaches then
Speaker 1: allowed me to do with the playoffs, just be me,
Speaker 1: and they understand that that point is okay, cool. He
Speaker 1: wants the same thing I want is to win, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean that's the only thing that matters. So you know,
Speaker 1: I think they give me more leeway to maniplate the
Speaker 1: game and make me have to have an impact on
Speaker 1: the game. And that's what I get out of it.
Speaker 1: That's what I get out of it when when they
Speaker 1: say playoff Rondo, because I I know the difference between
Speaker 1: me and the regular season in the playoffs, and I
Speaker 1: know your your mind is one of the being one
Speaker 1: of the you know, you and Chris Partler two spart
Speaker 1: part of the smartest point guards in the game. I
Speaker 1: know your mind works different in the playoffs because every
Speaker 1: game counts and everything. We know, you only gotta be
Speaker 1: you only gotta be the best team in this series
Speaker 1: for four games. You know what I'm saying. So you
Speaker 1: locked in you and you see different things to get
Speaker 1: these teams. So I understand when they call you playoff
Speaker 1: rather because I know your i Q probably goes up
Speaker 1: ten times how you in the playoffs. But you know,
Speaker 1: being able to you know, work with you know a
Speaker 1: lot of great minds that ship. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: I was a sponge as well. You know a lot
Speaker 1: of people always say um um this. I always I
Speaker 1: don't want to be the smartest in the room, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like I got to surround myself
Speaker 1: next to Brin, you know, Frank Bobe, feel Handy, Jake Kid,
Speaker 1: Mike Penberleys, Like it's just a lot of great minds
Speaker 1: that you know. I'm like, give me everything you've got
Speaker 1: ship ortique me ORTI us, Like, you know, what's your mindset?
Speaker 1: So you know in the future, you know, you never
Speaker 1: know where I want to be down the line is
Speaker 1: coaching r and whatever the case it be, is like
Speaker 1: I want to know, you know what the great what's
Speaker 1: the great? You know what the great mindsets? So how
Speaker 1: they think that's where you belong for sure, that's that's
Speaker 1: that's iron shopping, shopping the iron. But I wanted to
Speaker 1: touch on, you know, going into a locker room with Bronze,
Speaker 1: seeing that you guys are natural born leaders. You guys mindset,
Speaker 1: the attention to detail, your discipline, you're hunger to win.
Speaker 1: What was it like collaborate? You know, obviously one of
Speaker 1: the greatest players of all time. From a mental standpoint,
Speaker 1: it was. It was a hell of experience, you know,
Speaker 1: Like I said, I was. He was very vocal to
Speaker 1: sharing film as far as helping young guys understand what
Speaker 1: they need to be and where we need to be
Speaker 1: as a team. So I was, like I said, I
Speaker 1: was learning on the fly on the court, you know,
Speaker 1: just picking his brain and studying him, his his body
Speaker 1: of work, the way he moves. When I go back
Speaker 1: and watch film. I used to always watch filming myself,
Speaker 1: and then I watched film of of him a d
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's stand where they want
Speaker 1: the ball, where they're great at. So that's just, um,
Speaker 1: that's just kind of how my mindset was going into it,
Speaker 1: like I said. But to be able to play with
Speaker 1: him and pick his brain daily and understand his discipline
Speaker 1: of what he's done to be able to become you know,
Speaker 1: so dominant year seventeen is uh. It was fun to watch.
Speaker 1: It was great to be next to and understanding like, okay,
Speaker 1: this easily. You know, I played with so many lead
Speaker 1: players at a high level, Damn man, I would say
Speaker 1: more than fifteen first ballot Hall of famers, So, um, see,
Speaker 1: the the best at the best. It was the hell
Speaker 1: of arrived these last couple of years. Just I'm just
Speaker 1: watching them. You came in and picked up where you
Speaker 1: left off, which was crazy to me after six weeks
Speaker 1: off and a broken thumb. It's like you said, a
Speaker 1: third a third surgery. On the same hand, tell me
Speaker 1: what it was like being a younger player in the
Speaker 1: playoffs and then your mentality as a fifteen year vet
Speaker 1: or a fourteen year vetting coming back and knowing exactly
Speaker 1: where you need to be and how you can affect
Speaker 1: the game and the most because you put up solid numbers,
Speaker 1: but just your presence on the court allowed Lebron to
Speaker 1: kind of exhale a little bit, and you were able
Speaker 1: to run the show on both sides of the floor. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, that's you know something that
Speaker 1: really it's just about trust, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like Brown was able to trust me, and I told him,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like I got you. You know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I damned you. Don't let anybody down. My stepf down.
Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna anybody downs. I'm gonna make mistakes.
Speaker 1: But you know, if I make a mistake, I'm probably
Speaker 1: gonna make up for two times in the next two
Speaker 1: or three minutes. So it's just that was just my
Speaker 1: mindset and just having energy and and want to become,
Speaker 1: you know, the best player on the court, and even
Speaker 1: with him on the court, of my mindset is to
Speaker 1: be the best play on the court at all times.
Speaker 1: And I was able to do that, like I said,
Speaker 1: with trust in my teammates and my coaching staff, so
Speaker 1: I to get them credit. But just having a mindset,
Speaker 1: like I said, when I was twenty one and the
Speaker 1: playoffs going to get going at it. You know, I
Speaker 1: had three grades. You know, a lot of other great teammates,
Speaker 1: I had three grades behind me, and I knew they
Speaker 1: had my back from day one. So I did have
Speaker 1: to earn a respect, which you know is obviously expected,
Speaker 1: which was not a problem, but have then behind me
Speaker 1: understanding like you know, they gave me leeway. You know,
Speaker 1: they pumped the confidence in me. I saw those guys
Speaker 1: work at at an early age, and it was only
Speaker 1: right there I followed suit, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like I said, having that competitive drive I want to win,
Speaker 1: I was able to learn, you know, some of the
Speaker 1: things I had been put it with thirst and just
Speaker 1: picked each one of the other brains, you know, the PJ.
Speaker 1: Browns Keian dude was like, I had a lot of
Speaker 1: great vets, Senaca, sale, tyrone, loup. So they were on
Speaker 1: me daily and they helped me grow. And then fast
Speaker 1: forward fifteen years later. For fourteen years later, Um, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean I was able to just come back, you know,
Speaker 1: the grace of God. You know, I broke my hand.
Speaker 1: Then I was supposed to play in the Portland series
Speaker 1: thirty minutes for a tip off, my back locked up.
Speaker 1: I'm out another week. So I missed that serious completely.
Speaker 1: So I'm thinking, like, damn, you know, I've been out
Speaker 1: seven months. I'm coming right back in the heat. So
Speaker 1: I had a brain in his understanding, like I said,
Speaker 1: make sure my body was was right. You I still
Speaker 1: could lift even though I broke my thumb. I was.
Speaker 1: I was on a daily lifting Um. I was doing
Speaker 1: yoga every other day, just trying to lock in and
Speaker 1: make sure my body was right from the back so
Speaker 1: I don't have any little extremity, you know, mess up.
Speaker 1: So that was just my mindset. M hm. Ship. I
Speaker 1: love hearing that. But take me back to one year
Speaker 1: old Rondo being the floor general to win your first
Speaker 1: championship in Boston with team like you said, the likes
Speaker 1: of Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, Paul Pierce. You guys had
Speaker 1: a hell of a team. I think Tony Allen was
Speaker 1: on that team too, wasn't he. Yeah, t A. You
Speaker 1: guys have, yeah, a lot of a lot of different personalities,
Speaker 1: but you were the one. You were the you know,
Speaker 1: from from the outside looking in, you were the pulse
Speaker 1: of the team, but you were only you were the
Speaker 1: youngest at the same time. So what was it like
Speaker 1: navigating that team and what did you learn from actual
Speaker 1: on the court experience, and then also having Dock next
Speaker 1: to you, because you know, I personally, you know, Doc
Speaker 1: would tell stories how you guys would butt heads sometimes
Speaker 1: because you see things one way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, get yeah,
Speaker 1: get into that ship for us. So let's let's start
Speaker 1: with Doc. Let's start with Yeah. Man, my first year, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, we lost eight teams straight at one point,
Speaker 1: So I'm like, man, what the funk? You're like, I
Speaker 1: can't get no burn, you know what I mean, I
Speaker 1: even't give me the game. He's he's just just I
Speaker 1: don't know, I'm gonna get into a little bit and
Speaker 1: goes crazy on it basically, so fast forward that the
Speaker 1: trade happened, you know, the same year, same players go KG.
Speaker 1: I think that I heard KG said he wanted me
Speaker 1: to stay, so boom we win a championship. But throughout
Speaker 1: that year it was tough, yo, but Doc helped me
Speaker 1: get through it. Obviously understanding you know he's played I
Speaker 1: think he played with two Hall of Famers at the time,
Speaker 1: and just how to navigate and keep those guys happy. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I think I'm blessed and fortunately, like I said,
Speaker 1: I played baseball, football, basketball all three growing up, so
Speaker 1: I kind of had that leader mentality, leader mindset growing
Speaker 1: up as far as it's being a believer in being
Speaker 1: a student of the game whatever I wanted to to accomplish,
Speaker 1: And that will show those guys are under respect, you know,
Speaker 1: back with my my knowledge and my work ethic. You
Speaker 1: can't deny me or you can't you know, not hand
Speaker 1: me the keys and you know giving them granted, Uh
Speaker 1: they didn't, you know, that's earlier. Obviously want to give
Speaker 1: me the keys. At first, I had to earn their respect.
Speaker 1: I did that throughout the season. Um, they ain't still
Speaker 1: trusting me. I communicated with my guys all the time
Speaker 1: on the court, you know what I mean. Like I
Speaker 1: prided myself on having the most touches. There's a stat
Speaker 1: back in the day when Steve played, and um, I
Speaker 1: think one year he had beat me in most touches
Speaker 1: with his teammates, you know what I mean as far
Speaker 1: as like coming back, running back on defense, touch or
Speaker 1: coming that time I was touched like that, that mindset,
Speaker 1: you know, also helped me kind of earned their respect
Speaker 1: and this to gather that I could probably kind of
Speaker 1: bring teams together that I don't mean to cut you off,
Speaker 1: but see that's that's how you set them apart. Who
Speaker 1: thinks about stuff like that? Right? I love hearing this ship.
Speaker 1: I love hearing this ship. I love that. Damn that's crazy.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that was a stat. Yeah it was.
Speaker 1: It was Steve beat me when y'all I was like,
Speaker 1: damn beat me. I mean, like that's what you know,
Speaker 1: that's just like I said, how I am. But it
Speaker 1: it wasn't forceful like I said. There's always you know,
Speaker 1: me being the point you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: everybody runs back to the point guard, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So okay, good shot, good what is that
Speaker 1: that pick like it just you know, positive encouragement and
Speaker 1: talking to my team to where you know, we feel
Speaker 1: confident about what we're doing and were ready to lock
Speaker 1: the funk in. Everybody know what we're doing. Only stat
Speaker 1: Jack knew was motherfucking f g A S f J
Speaker 1: speaking of that though. That's that's what Danny. That's the
Speaker 1: key thing Danny told me. Game sticks back in our way.
Speaker 1: He was like f g A, he said, he said,
Speaker 1: put him up against Coble. He said, put him up,
Speaker 1: I play. You gotta be aggressive. I end up shooting
Speaker 1: twenty one field goals of that game. But see I
Speaker 1: remember that though, because obviously, you know, being in the
Speaker 1: league the same time, I remember cob used to play
Speaker 1: you under the free throw line sometimes, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And it kind of could clogged the defense
Speaker 1: up for everyone else, for all the curls and all
Speaker 1: the ship in the paint and it, and it took
Speaker 1: you to be more aggressive for him to come out
Speaker 1: and motherfucking guard you, right, So that he was the
Speaker 1: first to do that, then obviously he set that. He
Speaker 1: set the trend. I mean a couple of years that
Speaker 1: I think Brown was playing like that in the playoffs
Speaker 1: and and they put a bigger guard on me that
Speaker 1: type of mentality. So I was like, okay, cool, I
Speaker 1: gotta figure out how to dash that. This I got
Speaker 1: you know, this is this is playoff Okay, I get it. Okay,
Speaker 1: Now I gotta elevate because I think throughout the playoffs,
Speaker 1: no one that played me that way. And Kobe, you know,
Speaker 1: that's why you arresting peace one Grace. I love the
Speaker 1: Peters because he understood the mindset of the game and
Speaker 1: just had a you know, we it was a chess
Speaker 1: match out there, and I love playing against it with him,
Speaker 1: you know. And also you know, obviously gotta give Phil
Speaker 1: Jackson credit as well. What is it about like you
Speaker 1: and like Jaked, like even Jakid, like y'all wasn't shooters
Speaker 1: now now they can't leave y'all open m That's what
Speaker 1: he telling me too. But now just you know, just
Speaker 1: working and not giving the funk, you know what I mean? Ship, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but but on some real ship that not giving a
Speaker 1: fun meter has to be really high. And to me,
Speaker 1: that's the only thing holding Ben Simmons back right now
Speaker 1: is that I don't give a funk meter and what
Speaker 1: you get over that. I don't give a meter. You're good.
Speaker 1: The crazy part is you look around the league nigger
Speaker 1: shooting three for seven teen. I'm like, what come on, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, get up til three, nick, I'm a five
Speaker 1: five of the mothers exactly exactly, exactly real. But you
Speaker 1: got But you gotta get over that though, Like you said,
Speaker 1: how what what was it difficult for you to get
Speaker 1: over that? You embraced it right away because you are
Speaker 1: a past pass first type of guy. So was it
Speaker 1: hard for you to actually take that mentality on? It was?
Speaker 1: You know still at times, you know, it's just my
Speaker 1: mindset is always thinking open man. But you know, the
Speaker 1: way the game is played today. When I'm able to
Speaker 1: stay in the league now, like I said, they've been
Speaker 1: telling me, I gotta take it so um. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I'm looking for that motherfucker. I'm trying to get him up.
Speaker 1: I ain't got nothing to lose, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make any back in the game so many
Speaker 1: other ways, so I get three D bit just on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, back, let's let's go back to bron Rondo.
Speaker 1: Give me one thing that you could say you actually
Speaker 1: learned from the King. I call him the k A
Speaker 1: n G. The King. I think I actually learned as
Speaker 1: far as game while I was like or or or
Speaker 1: yea or or just something you previously didn't know about him,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like you hear a lot
Speaker 1: of different things, like what is something you learned from
Speaker 1: him that you just didn't know? Like damn, Okay, I
Speaker 1: mean I'll go I might say it's disciplined. I just
Speaker 1: think it's discipline, you know, Like I said, he got
Speaker 1: the best guy working on his body in the game. Uh,
Speaker 1: and everything to do is you know, it's routine, strategically
Speaker 1: routine as far as the rest diet, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, like from top to bottom. The only person
Speaker 1: that was KG. But like I said, Lebron is the
Speaker 1: way he's daily doing exactly what he needs to be doing.
Speaker 1: It is a match. So it's like you, I can
Speaker 1: tell you that, but you can't really understand until you
Speaker 1: like see it, like damn, like I see him every
Speaker 1: day like and he's he ain't taking no shortcause like
Speaker 1: he owned it, locked in love it, so putting them
Speaker 1: days together. What was it like going from being a
Speaker 1: Boston Celtic to winning a championship for the Lakers. The
Speaker 1: year Kobe passes, it was a lot. This is the
Speaker 1: emotional rollercoaster the year m H winning it, you know
Speaker 1: for Kobe, the year Cope passes is unreal. There's something
Speaker 1: you can't imagine obviously, be playing against a couple of finals, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, in the in the same uniform. So h
Speaker 1: it was. It was a tough one. I said. We
Speaker 1: all understood the mindset and the goal of what we had,
Speaker 1: what we're trying to attain, and who we were doing
Speaker 1: it for. So do to be able to you know,
Speaker 1: kind of like you said, say that full circle accomplish
Speaker 1: your goal. It was just a real moment and it's
Speaker 1: definitely something but you know it would be grateful for
Speaker 1: I'm sure the rest of our life. So it was
Speaker 1: a dope moment. It's been. It's been a dope moment
Speaker 1: despite everything else, you know, I mean, just being able
Speaker 1: to share some light in that in that aspect, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's been amazing to me. You know, people talk about
Speaker 1: this should be an asterisk. To me, this should be
Speaker 1: a gold star considering what the world was going through,
Speaker 1: what you guys had to go through to to to
Speaker 1: get in the bubble, and stay safe and still carry
Speaker 1: your message and still be away from your family. To me,
Speaker 1: the game is mental. Once you get to this level,
Speaker 1: everyone could pretty much do everything. So who mentally, like
Speaker 1: you said, with Broun's discipline, or who can really lock
Speaker 1: in for this time and understand the task at hands.
Speaker 1: So for all those people to say this is an asterist,
Speaker 1: this ship and then the man funk that, there's gotta
Speaker 1: be a gold star considering how fucked up it, how
Speaker 1: fucked up in your ties been as a whole. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I can't wait within my room. I'm gonna wear my
Speaker 1: last Yeah, I saw, I saw Braun. He did an
Speaker 1: interview Richard Jefferson Um not too long ago, and he
Speaker 1: said the one thing he was disappointed was was not
Speaker 1: being able to party with his teammates. Obviously said, you know,
Speaker 1: the locker room is cool, the parade is cool for
Speaker 1: the fans. But then, and I heard before this, you
Speaker 1: guys are a really close team. You guys moved as
Speaker 1: a unit. So how disappointing was it for you, even
Speaker 1: though you're old, wildly vetting you want to sit at
Speaker 1: home with the family, to not be able to a
Speaker 1: party with you team. You know, when you win a
Speaker 1: championship because those obviously the ships don't come around all
Speaker 1: the time. That's the time to turn up. That's right.
Speaker 1: You get everybody in the past, you can, right. So no,
Speaker 1: it was you know, it wasn't uh, you know, it
Speaker 1: wasn't what you would expect. It was difficult, you know,
Speaker 1: I just you just gotta appreciate what we did. You know,
Speaker 1: we didnt get the opportunity to kind of go crazy
Speaker 1: and celebrate it due to the situations. But let's just hoies, Ben,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just roll with the punches. Like I said,
Speaker 1: its warts up and down. You you take your wins
Speaker 1: when you can't understand, you know, some things uncontrollable. So
Speaker 1: you know, where were unite, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like ship, we're still out here. So it's something they
Speaker 1: can never take away from us. So it might not
Speaker 1: be the ideal right after right after the CHIP championship celebration,
Speaker 1: but we figured some ship out in a lot of
Speaker 1: guys we got on this team. You know, we can
Speaker 1: make some moves. Um. Growing up in Louisville, Kentucky, multi
Speaker 1: sport athletes, UM, similar to me, didn't really tune in
Speaker 1: to basketball until I got older, Like I watched the Lakers,
Speaker 1: but outside of that, I wasn't really following college basketball,
Speaker 1: know who like that. I was just out there playing sports.
Speaker 1: When did basketball become serious to you? It became serious
Speaker 1: to me probably with my senior at Okaill you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like I played sports growing up. Now
Speaker 1: I take that back. It might have been serious maybe
Speaker 1: junior year, I say. Junior year, I would say, but
Speaker 1: I still didn't know, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: had an opportunity to kind of get to leave, but
Speaker 1: I understood that. Um. You know, I had a mentor
Speaker 1: growing up that I met when I was like fifteen
Speaker 1: years old, Um, Derek Anderson. And I met him. Like,
Speaker 1: I'm from Kentucky, so I didn't watch basketball growing up.
Speaker 1: I watched football like I was outside playing. So we
Speaker 1: didn't have a professional team in Louisville. And I was
Speaker 1: just always outside active, so I didn't I didn't grow
Speaker 1: up a fan of anybody or anything. And like I said,
Speaker 1: once I met him, uh, you know, he exposed me
Speaker 1: to a lot of different a different life. Basically, you know,
Speaker 1: we picked me up like that's all we're doing, chilling
Speaker 1: that he worked out to or three hours of morning.
Speaker 1: The rest of that he got chill. I'm like, Dad,
Speaker 1: this is what you're doing. Like you who were drive
Speaker 1: out to it. We would drive to a big gass crib.
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn they are You're doing it like that
Speaker 1: Sam Cars. I'm like, Okay, the life, Okay, who I mean,
Speaker 1: let me focus on. Let me locking and try to
Speaker 1: get you know, go this way, because you know, at
Speaker 1: to that point, I was just I was just heard,
Speaker 1: you know, with just being fifteen six and year old kid.
Speaker 1: I mean not really, no, really go there's got a
Speaker 1: lot of kids in neighborhood were kicking and we're doing
Speaker 1: whatever we're doing, trying to get through the school. So
Speaker 1: once I met him, my stoo coach Doug Bibby flew
Speaker 1: me out of Sacramental working out with Mike Bibby. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, everything I can hoop you. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm over playing ones against the nigga. They ain't killing
Speaker 1: me too much. See what I got. Let me focus
Speaker 1: a little bit more. Um. Then I went to Old
Speaker 1: Kill Academy. I got my boy, my brother to this day,
Speaker 1: Josh Smith and the league they coming, they come to
Speaker 1: scout him, the league coming. See this Nick. I'm like
Speaker 1: ship he they come to see him. You know, we
Speaker 1: had once every day going at it and practice my shot.
Speaker 1: I can keep up this nigg he just you know
Speaker 1: six eight freakish athleticism. But you know I got some
Speaker 1: shipped too. Once they started looking at him as the league, Um,
Speaker 1: I kind of was like, oh, I can get it.
Speaker 1: I can go get you know what I mean. That's
Speaker 1: kind of my master's when I really kind of locked
Speaker 1: in my senior year. I went from Danna Reddy eight
Speaker 1: to make McDonald's my senior year and then um it
Speaker 1: was on every cent. I mean I all got matched
Speaker 1: up with a couple of you know, Sebastian Tilver, Sean Livingston.
Speaker 1: We had. We had I think one of the best
Speaker 1: McDonald classes all time. I'm arguing that with anybody, so
Speaker 1: class old folk. You know, we think we had fourteen
Speaker 1: go out of the league, straight out of the league
Speaker 1: and go to the total League. So you know, once
Speaker 1: I once I got to that point, I was like,
Speaker 1: it's all. I was pissed. Funny, I had to go
Speaker 1: to school. Everybody all when I went out of high school,
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, I ain't even know good. I'm going
Speaker 1: to Kentucky. But I'm like everybody went to the league,
Speaker 1: So I had to go to school for a couple
Speaker 1: of years, and you know, here we are. It's funny
Speaker 1: to say something about O Kill because my going into
Speaker 1: my junior year, you know, I can win the state
Speaker 1: championship with Texas. I started getting the name for myself,
Speaker 1: and I started, you know, looking at basketball more shares.
Speaker 1: But once I got the Old Kill and I got
Speaker 1: a chance to experience traveling all around the country, plan
Speaker 1: against the top players and holding my own I think
Speaker 1: that's what made it real for me, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Because before I got the O Kill, I
Speaker 1: never thought about making the McDonald's game. You know, I
Speaker 1: had it. I had a dope class to Kobe, Jermaine
Speaker 1: on Neil, Tim Thomas, Real Hamilton I had, and Mike
Speaker 1: Bibby I had a dope class too. But going to
Speaker 1: O Kill made me realize that I could make it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I heard you kind of
Speaker 1: speak on that earlier. Absolutely same likewise, when I got
Speaker 1: A Kill got the Josh, we we played four or
Speaker 1: four games that year, like thirty seven on the road,
Speaker 1: and I mean so that was just already getting the set.
Speaker 1: If we did, like most of us did, go to college,
Speaker 1: you know how that mandset to still be able to
Speaker 1: do academics on the road and then make sure you
Speaker 1: get your grades working then who so we're prepared for
Speaker 1: you know, at a young age, the hardest part was
Speaker 1: living on the hill ship man, I'm talking about girls
Speaker 1: on one side, dudes on one side. You can't come
Speaker 1: across the line. Yeah, got a line, boss you Yeah,
Speaker 1: you get calling with the girl you sed to spend
Speaker 1: it off the rip there no questions, right, that's made
Speaker 1: it happen, man, I made it happen, matt if any month. Anyway,
Speaker 1: back to business, what was the recruiting process? Like you
Speaker 1: chose Kentucky, you played for Tubby Smith. Did anyone else
Speaker 1: get a real consideration or being you know, born and
Speaker 1: raised from there? That's where your mind was from the beginning? No, actually,
Speaker 1: um I was. I got off from Louisville my junior
Speaker 1: before I went to Okill, and I said, no, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna wait. So a lot of people thought you don't
Speaker 1: never offered me, But I'm like, you know, it didn't
Speaker 1: really make a difference. I kind of want to wait
Speaker 1: to see where I was at. I got to o Kill,
Speaker 1: so I had about five business set up. I never
Speaker 1: took no out of my visits and being being ok Kill,
Speaker 1: you know, I was like ten hour drive from from
Speaker 1: the crib and my mom was, you know my biggest
Speaker 1: my name wants to paint number one fan. So I
Speaker 1: wanted to be close to her, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like going Okay, I miss home like crazy, um, and
Speaker 1: I wanted her to be able to come travel and
Speaker 1: see me. So Kentucky here, I think four or five
Speaker 1: seniors leaving that year, I would opportunity to come in
Speaker 1: and start right away. And the ship was supposed to
Speaker 1: career and we have like I think number two recruited
Speaker 1: class coming in. We had Randal More, Joe Crawford, Mell Bradley,
Speaker 1: Chuck Hayes there already clinizes a booky. So I was like, ship,
Speaker 1: you know, we can go out and rock it out
Speaker 1: and figure, you know, try to get to the lead
Speaker 1: from there. The biggest platform. Mm hmmm. How was it
Speaker 1: being a part of that Kentucky legacy still to this day?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Like I'm really I played
Speaker 1: are be in basketball three? The most story franchises. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like it's let me recognize, I
Speaker 1: mean right behind, right behind, right behind you see la,
Speaker 1: But I feel you go ahead now, we ain't done
Speaker 1: ship lately. Now it's definitely Kentucky now, I mean U C.
Speaker 1: L a Is is played out unfortunately, but it's definitely
Speaker 1: Kentucky is the mecca for college basketball now that's for sure.
Speaker 1: And point go out of cat right now, even Ship
Speaker 1: since the abandoned brothers man for no, you ain't lying
Speaker 1: absolutely right now resting Kevin Love and them had their
Speaker 1: nice little run but never won a championship, like we
Speaker 1: ain't won the championships. I think Drew was a little older.
Speaker 1: It was Derren Collins. It was Darren Collinson, Russell Westbrook, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Kevin Love. They had a good team but could never
Speaker 1: get over the hump. And then we had a dope
Speaker 1: team too. But our coaches are only a couple of
Speaker 1: years older than us, laugh at just like her thirties.
Speaker 1: So motherfucker's out trying to chase holes just like we were.
Speaker 1: So we we all we had like nine pros or
Speaker 1: eight pros. Go pro off our team, but we didn't
Speaker 1: win ship. So you decided you decided to make that jump. Um,
Speaker 1: the Knicks passed on you at twenty and you went
Speaker 1: twenty one to the Sons? Did playing and being but
Speaker 1: being a Nick ever crossed your mind and the thoughts
Speaker 1: of what it would be like to to to be
Speaker 1: a point Guarden for that it is a historical franchise,
Speaker 1: even though I haven't done nothing a long time, but
Speaker 1: just thinking like changing the culture in their mental Did
Speaker 1: that cross your mind seeing that they were right there? No,
Speaker 1: I didn't give a damn where I win. I was
Speaker 1: with my name. It's so crazy because the nigga went
Speaker 1: in front of me. Dude in front of me. His
Speaker 1: name is Ronaldo Balkman. Yeah, that's who got knocked out
Speaker 1: by Mellow. They said, okay, you know means they gat me.
Speaker 1: I thought I was ready to get picked that in.
Speaker 1: I don't know that wasn't he was just on the
Speaker 1: team my bad four winning season. Then it all changes
Speaker 1: someone when you get KG and ray Allen y'all bounced back,
Speaker 1: Tell me what have tell I had the team changed
Speaker 1: when nob y'all had those guys. So, I mean it
Speaker 1: was from jump, you know it was. It was a
Speaker 1: chemish from Jump. I think those guys came in. We
Speaker 1: all came in about maybe three weeks earlier than camp
Speaker 1: and started a hoop and from the first game him
Speaker 1: to pick up. The biggest difference I noticed was was
Speaker 1: KG yelling you know you I'm up top on the ball,
Speaker 1: He's yelling screen screen screen. I'm like, damn, this ain't
Speaker 1: even nowhere near me yet. So I was like it
Speaker 1: was a different It was this easy playing with him,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like he he told you
Speaker 1: what to be, what was happening behind you, and if
Speaker 1: you got a guy behind you just to be able
Speaker 1: to check your eye, he was able to, you know,
Speaker 1: quarterback and do that and that. From that moment on,
Speaker 1: I knew like this ship was on, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. He was having a guy that can quarterback
Speaker 1: behind me versus me and not being always on the
Speaker 1: back line. Having to say ship like I had a
Speaker 1: big fellow that knew the game as well, so I
Speaker 1: have him behind me being able to quarterback. And then,
Speaker 1: like I said, it goes along with our work ethic.
Speaker 1: You know, we went to Rome right away. That helped
Speaker 1: from jump. You know, we got our chemistry from from
Speaker 1: day one, going on a trip overseas where ship you
Speaker 1: don't have anybody to talk to about yourself. Everybody speaking
Speaker 1: for an language, We got them too. There were able
Speaker 1: to lock in and just just understand what we're trying
Speaker 1: to accomplish that year and the mentality and their mindset
Speaker 1: from me being able to free us that being around
Speaker 1: the great leadership. And when they brought in Sampa Sale.
Speaker 1: One of my my closest coaching staff bladders was Armine here.
Speaker 1: You know he's still with our Hey, Hey, did he
Speaker 1: used to motherfucker take it? Did he used to take
Speaker 1: his shoes off of everything and sit on them hot packs? Uh? No,
Speaker 1: that was my bad. That was oh dude from the
Speaker 1: Lakers with Phield Jackson. My bad our mom. But our
Speaker 1: mom was cool, cool, real cool dude. Hey, you know KG.
Speaker 1: KG said the same thing when he was on the show.
Speaker 1: He was like, from that first practice, how we competed,
Speaker 1: how he felt like everybody was on the same page
Speaker 1: and came into work. He said the exact thing. Broad
Speaker 1: from that first practice. He knew that y'all had some
Speaker 1: special Now we used to dog it. We used to
Speaker 1: have called junior runs. That's when we played one on
Speaker 1: one and you couldn't call a foul, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Like it was like we weren't going crazy.
Speaker 1: Ain't know the soft ass foul they was playing. Like
Speaker 1: I said, bigs are lined up on one end and
Speaker 1: the guards line on another, and we would go at
Speaker 1: it and we're playing ones before the games. So getting
Speaker 1: it in. What's speaking? He speaking to KG you know,
Speaker 1: obviously to land him was huge. He was talking about
Speaker 1: other teams and impossible situations where he went. But when
Speaker 1: we interviewed him on the show, and I quote he said,
Speaker 1: you gotta keep the little African kid, yo. If I
Speaker 1: come to Boston, you gotta keep the African story. He
Speaker 1: keeps saying that, Hey, but he said, I mean it.
Speaker 1: But but but to hear that, it is what it is.
Speaker 1: But to those someone of Kevin Garnetts caliber knew that
Speaker 1: you were a young and up and coming main piece
Speaker 1: for that team. How did that make you feel? I'm
Speaker 1: sure they had to give you a lot of confidence.
Speaker 1: Definitely a lot, you know, Like I said, it was
Speaker 1: so crazy that I was sitting at the cree of
Speaker 1: my mom's house in Kentucky when the trades were happening.
Speaker 1: I think it was before the draft, And like I said,
Speaker 1: my name was on the board the first two days,
Speaker 1: along as you know, six other guys. I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: we're gonna I'm going to Minnesota. I'm like, fun, I'm
Speaker 1: like I said, I asked to get out here cause
Speaker 1: I was trying it out here my rookie year. Games
Speaker 1: wouldn't blame me. I was trying to get a batter,
Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, cool trade having I trade.
Speaker 1: It happens to happen. Two days past, Danny called me like,
Speaker 1: you ain't going nowhere, So I said, cool, I lock
Speaker 1: back in with Boston and I, you know, not knowing that,
Speaker 1: kJ was like, no, get him out of there, keep
Speaker 1: him here, you know what I mean? So that that
Speaker 1: changed my career path right there? What that's what? What? What?
Speaker 1: What is your heritage? What does the name region Rondo
Speaker 1: come from? Raj and my mama just made it up,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Just a unique name that
Speaker 1: I appreciate you this day. So it ain't thathning. I
Speaker 1: think my other name, my ucle name is Roderick, and
Speaker 1: I think she started as was made, uh talk to
Speaker 1: us a little bit. Uh, you guys had a run.
Speaker 1: You guys won a championship obviously the first taste of
Speaker 1: the Lakers selfish rivalry. Uh, you guys got a chance
Speaker 1: to play play against each other a few times. What
Speaker 1: was it like to be a twenty one year old
Speaker 1: point guard in the midst of the most historical I
Speaker 1: ad in the game. I was just locked into the moment,
Speaker 1: you know, it was it was a real moment to
Speaker 1: understand the history because the Celtics hadn't one, you know,
Speaker 1: so I was born I think it was twenty years
Speaker 1: you know, prior to it. So I was getting there
Speaker 1: or being back into the championship. So I had to
Speaker 1: watch a lot of tape and just understand, like, you know,
Speaker 1: all the greatness that I've I'm pretty much a part
Speaker 1: of now and understanding how big the rivalry was. And
Speaker 1: it didn't realize until you know, the NBA Finals of
Speaker 1: the media hit, you know, once the media was there,
Speaker 1: it was it was like, damn, this is this is
Speaker 1: the real deal. And all the attention and uh reporters
Speaker 1: from different countries, you know, at the event, it was
Speaker 1: like this is, uh, this is bigger than I imagine.
Speaker 1: So it was dope at twenty one just to be
Speaker 1: able to go through that and then being from you know,
Speaker 1: playing for Boston. You know, I still say, the best
Speaker 1: fans and you know, one of the best fans that
Speaker 1: I've ever played played for those Arenas, so they know
Speaker 1: the game, they're they're amazing fans. And uh, it was
Speaker 1: just like I said, great being in the town at
Speaker 1: the entitled town m You and Jack both won the
Speaker 1: Young Ages. You guys both had big close out Game six.
Speaker 1: What was your experience like closing someone out on the
Speaker 1: biggest stage Rondo? And then I want to compare to
Speaker 1: you know, I want Jack to talk about his experience
Speaker 1: as well, because for young players, a lot of mother's
Speaker 1: ain't got them kind of balls. Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: was just thinking dominated. Like I said, Danny came to
Speaker 1: me before a game six and I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know what you do. He was like, get him up.
Speaker 1: I said, well, get him upright? Cool? So I just
Speaker 1: kind of went the mentality like I said, and the
Speaker 1: shot and shot and shot the ball. And I knew
Speaker 1: that aggressive play well. I intended to hope that that
Speaker 1: aggressive player would would propel us to get a victor again,
Speaker 1: like I said, would be the shot out of here.
Speaker 1: So it was it was all around team. I think
Speaker 1: for me and it was similar you know, Toronto. I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure, but just having Tim doncan have the comfidence
Speaker 1: in me, I think for me not playing to me
Speaker 1: starting to me getting all those shots and making big shots.
Speaker 1: It all started and had something to do with him.
Speaker 1: And when you got the best player believing, then you
Speaker 1: you got the best player of telling the coach that
Speaker 1: you need to start. You got the best player coming
Speaker 1: you were believing you to throw you the pass at
Speaker 1: the end of the game. That boost is your confidence.
Speaker 1: So for me having Tim to have my back and
Speaker 1: let me know that I belong in this game, that
Speaker 1: I belong on this team, that I'm a big part
Speaker 1: of this team, That's what helped me as a young guy.
Speaker 1: So when anytime you have a young guy that you
Speaker 1: know that they're gonna be a big part of your team,
Speaker 1: it's imperative that the star players give them that confidence.
Speaker 1: M HM. Talk about it. What was the process of
Speaker 1: growing because you had to grow fast and learn fast,
Speaker 1: and and when would you say like you were kind
Speaker 1: of handed the keys to the car, you know, along
Speaker 1: with it with three Hall of famers that are rolling
Speaker 1: with you handed the keys. I think I kind of
Speaker 1: gained him throughout the playoffs that that first year of
Speaker 1: playoffs run we had you know, we we had a
Speaker 1: tough battle against the Hawks. You know, we went seven.
Speaker 1: We went seven and seven and six six. I think
Speaker 1: I think at the time it was the most you
Speaker 1: know games played the win the championships like twin six games,
Speaker 1: so you know we were about to tested, you know, ship.
Speaker 1: I pretty much played every game seven, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I had any packing those games seven.
Speaker 1: I think it is group, you know, going into the
Speaker 1: playoffs that year, Um, you know, every everybody on this
Speaker 1: in that role, and I wanted to be the best
Speaker 1: roleplayer possible and make my guy's job easy. You know.
Speaker 1: That was just my masset one to the game. Whatever
Speaker 1: I can do to make y'all, make y'all ship easy.
Speaker 1: You know, if you're shooting PT two, I want to
Speaker 1: get it to fifty five, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Just little things like that, as far as just having
Speaker 1: him to understand that they know I want the best
Speaker 1: for them, so that it wasn't a problem. Um that
Speaker 1: gave me the keys, Doc gave me the keys, and
Speaker 1: it was it was through time, through film, through working
Speaker 1: through a lot of criticism. Like I said, even we
Speaker 1: wanted me and Doc still was but in his I mean,
Speaker 1: but Doc right bumped his first four or five years,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean it was just um point guard
Speaker 1: point guard understanding game from what I saw, what he saw.
Speaker 1: So it wasn't um nothing that it was something if
Speaker 1: I coach, I look forward to doing as well, you know,
Speaker 1: just teaching the game, understanding the game with what my
Speaker 1: point guard sees or the guy I'm helping, or even
Speaker 1: trade this year, you know what I mean. I love it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna enjoy picking his brain understand like what he
Speaker 1: sees and how I can help you get him, you know,
Speaker 1: whatever level he's trying to get to it, which is
Speaker 1: probably the best. So I look forward to that. So
Speaker 1: just having those vests, Man, it was big in the
Speaker 1: locker room for me coming off that. You guys had
Speaker 1: a big two thousand ten run uh knock and weight
Speaker 1: off braun our Lando team um to get to a
Speaker 1: reach match with the Lakers. Um Na, remember, so we
Speaker 1: had we Man, who was I talking to about this
Speaker 1: was events. I was pissed because we had beat you
Speaker 1: all three one that season and we got going into
Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference finals. The standing got scared, like, yo,
Speaker 1: this is a veteran team. We gotta change up this, this,
Speaker 1: and that switched the whole game plan. Man. See, y'all
Speaker 1: was up three, remember you guys were up three, three nothing,
Speaker 1: and then we won two in a row, and then
Speaker 1: y'all beat us in game six. Bullshit, So we thought
Speaker 1: we were Yeah, we thought we was going to the
Speaker 1: finals that year, but anyway, you guys whipped our ass
Speaker 1: um And we talked to Paul Pierce obviously, uh last
Speaker 1: year on the show, and he said that game seven
Speaker 1: lost in two thousands ten, he still hasn't been able
Speaker 1: to watch. How tough was that after tasting it the
Speaker 1: year before getting back and then not getting a chance
Speaker 1: to to taste it again. It was, It was difficult.
Speaker 1: It was so you know, some of the players in
Speaker 1: my mind as far as whenever I watched the finers
Speaker 1: and you're understanding, like ship, we were up three to you,
Speaker 1: I mean with two games ago, like we didn't get
Speaker 1: the job done. So you know, I don't try to
Speaker 1: live in the past too much, but understanding what I
Speaker 1: had and how precious it is to get to the
Speaker 1: finals and not taking that for grant because you know,
Speaker 1: you can eat if you get there, you still can
Speaker 1: be up in a series and losing motherfucker. So it
Speaker 1: was like that was just my mentality coming into this year, understanding,
Speaker 1: like ship, we get these boys life. You know, when
Speaker 1: when he won the first game, so I understand, like
Speaker 1: I've been up in the finals and it ain't you know,
Speaker 1: coming back and losing it, bitch, ain't what you want
Speaker 1: to be and you want to live with. So um,
Speaker 1: you know, I think maybe you know that helped me,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, inspire guys or to bring a
Speaker 1: little bit more this year in the finals. But nevertheless,
Speaker 1: it's still something you mind. You know, I've been on
Speaker 1: the finals three times one when too. It's not a
Speaker 1: bad but understanding we were we're geting going into the fourth,
Speaker 1: that's the crazy part. We're going to the fourth and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, still took their but like I said, key
Speaker 1: role player has made plays. They stepped up and win
Speaker 1: the championship. It's gonna take everybody. You've mentioned Doc a
Speaker 1: couple of times interview. How instrumental or or how much
Speaker 1: did you learn from him in your early years to
Speaker 1: kind of shape who you are um as a floor
Speaker 1: general and as a man man. He was big in
Speaker 1: my life own and off the court. Um, whatever I
Speaker 1: had problems, any think I was going through whatever we
Speaker 1: were going through the court, you know, and never waver
Speaker 1: how you know, our relationship was off the court, so uh,
Speaker 1: you know, he was definitely big as you being a
Speaker 1: black male mentor in my life at twenty years old
Speaker 1: coming to the game understanding you know what I needed
Speaker 1: to be become a great young point guard. That he
Speaker 1: you know it was or how he played back in
Speaker 1: the day, as far as you know, how he's ever
Speaker 1: to impact the game. So I was. I was fortunately,
Speaker 1: I was lucky man. Like I said, I always say,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, as good as your coach pleasing
Speaker 1: you in certain sports and pretty much every sport. And
Speaker 1: he gave me the keys. Like I said, we be
Speaker 1: bump heads, you know, a couple of years in the row,
Speaker 1: but it was still for as far as a mentality
Speaker 1: of him want the best for me. And I'm appreciative
Speaker 1: to understand that I got fortunate to play for a
Speaker 1: coach like Doc. I could have been with ten other
Speaker 1: coaches and should I could have been out of the league.
Speaker 1: And if I got a rid car a lot last
Speaker 1: you know what I mean first, and who know who knows?
Speaker 1: So ah, I'm just appreciative the idea to play for doctor.
Speaker 1: What was it like being after leaving the Celtics, like
Speaker 1: before becoming the Laker your career after leaving Boston, Like
Speaker 1: once you become a Boston Celtic and you win champions there,
Speaker 1: you become a legend in Boston and you kind of
Speaker 1: become a state in that community. Some players don't want
Speaker 1: to leave. Paul was able to stay, and I thought
Speaker 1: you was one of those guys that would finish their
Speaker 1: career in Boston, one of those Boston Celtist Hall of Famous.
Speaker 1: What was life like after leaving you know, the Celtics
Speaker 1: before getting to the Lakers. To be honest, you was
Speaker 1: so crazy you said that. I was just talking about
Speaker 1: that like three days though, maybe two. Um. Uh. It's
Speaker 1: certain ways to look at it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like I look at you know, guys like a Dirk
Speaker 1: you know, who lived in Dallas his whole life. You know, uh,
Speaker 1: you know other players who played their career at one place.
Speaker 1: It's like when I was younger, when I was playing
Speaker 1: the game and I was living in Boston, I felt
Speaker 1: that way, I was like, Okay, it could be you
Speaker 1: know some ship. Tim Duncan did players like that. But
Speaker 1: but the end of the day, like I said, once
Speaker 1: I was, I was traded being able to live in
Speaker 1: different cities, man like my parents joined. What that life
Speaker 1: experience like? Now I figured out where I want to live.
Speaker 1: I played in the best cities in the world and
Speaker 1: got paid to do it. So it's like ship I'm in.
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying life. I'm glad I didn't stick in Boston.
Speaker 1: You know, my entire career. You know, when I lived
Speaker 1: there of eight and a half years, I got experience
Speaker 1: that now I get experienced live with a Docramento amazing
Speaker 1: time and stack. I asked why I should going on
Speaker 1: to my basement downstairs the stack, which you know, I
Speaker 1: mean I had interest. I mean it was a dope experience,
Speaker 1: I said, So, I said that perspective of living in Chicago,
Speaker 1: you know, I lived downtown and the Triangle, like you know,
Speaker 1: that type of lifestyle kind of living there that was
Speaker 1: that was fun. Uh. You know, citing New Orleans is different.
Speaker 1: Like I drove an hour every day to practice in
Speaker 1: New Orleans, you know what I mean, Just because I'm
Speaker 1: really particular about where I live in my home like
Speaker 1: that asked to be in my happy place, in my
Speaker 1: leave the reno or practice for every place me be.
Speaker 1: Like I told you, I'm my home body. So my
Speaker 1: career got to be you know what I mean, like
Speaker 1: a lovely place and enjoyable, great vibes, the type of field.
Speaker 1: So I love it, you know what I mean. Being
Speaker 1: able to experienced the different different cities and different climates,
Speaker 1: enjoy life. So I don't look back at it, want
Speaker 1: to regret it. Uh, you know, she could have went differently,
Speaker 1: But it's all about perspective for me. And like I said,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out where I want to live
Speaker 1: the rest of my life. But differing this type of
Speaker 1: lifestyle and understanding like I said, I've got to experience
Speaker 1: so many different cities. My mind is thinking differently. Now,
Speaker 1: how was it plan with Boogie and A d Who
Speaker 1: to my favorite show? That's what I wanted, favorites, two
Speaker 1: of my favorites shows. Y'all seen you fill my career. Now,
Speaker 1: I've been trying to play with him to the last
Speaker 1: four or five years. They wanted wanted to the best
Speaker 1: to do in the game, and I called him Tim
Speaker 1: Duncan and David Robinson on steroids. That's what I called
Speaker 1: him to, especially when they was in them. Listen, when
Speaker 1: I got with them in New Orleans, I thought I
Speaker 1: had it figured out a blue prints, except we're gonna
Speaker 1: shot the world with that group because we had a
Speaker 1: big three. And what was so dope about that is
Speaker 1: at first, uh you know because and eight you know,
Speaker 1: they they both would go get trying to go get fifty,
Speaker 1: and uh, I'm like, cause, nigga, you can you can
Speaker 1: damn rab a triple double with this lineup. I mean,
Speaker 1: like get the fifty, you get fifteen, fifteen and twenty,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like kill it that way.
Speaker 1: And then you got you got Drew in the Pico
Speaker 1: roll that you can't funk with, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So it's like, Nick, we got a baby, big a monster,
Speaker 1: big three over here. The niggas ain't they sleeping on
Speaker 1: like I said, but I was, we would have to
Speaker 1: give Golden State in the playoffs with because eight Andrew,
Speaker 1: come on, man, they gonna mess up with that because
Speaker 1: because you gotta put Draymond on cuse you know what
Speaker 1: he trying to do. But he bullied basketball, so we
Speaker 1: can get in they can fast over real. Then I said,
Speaker 1: who gonna who gonna check a D? I was missing,
Speaker 1: y'all was missing Matt Barnes and Ron test and Stephen Jackson.
Speaker 1: You was missing that three guard that could defend the shoot.
Speaker 1: Y'all had everything else, you Drew boe a D. Y'all
Speaker 1: just needed that three guards. I wouldn't even I wouldn't
Speaker 1: even talk, abouldn't. I didn't even need to be on
Speaker 1: the court. Them three on the court, stop stopping you
Speaker 1: put them in the sea. Actually because the elbow with
Speaker 1: the ball. Now he's making the play, Drew pinning down
Speaker 1: for eight d Like what you're gonna switch? Like you
Speaker 1: can't stop everything? How tough? Know when you know obviously
Speaker 1: Kentucky ties, but then just being a good dude, you
Speaker 1: got a chance to play with him in sacrament I
Speaker 1: think Cousins so much understood how tough is it for
Speaker 1: you as a as a brother seeing him go down
Speaker 1: when he finally got into position. He was up for
Speaker 1: two hundred plus million that year, and y'all had a
Speaker 1: hell of a team. What was that like to you
Speaker 1: as a brother just seeing him have to go through
Speaker 1: all that ship. It was. It was sickening, and the
Speaker 1: disrespect on his name and man, you know, even to
Speaker 1: this day then I was like, y'all, this nigga the
Speaker 1: best thing, y'all. I don't know if you nigga seeing
Speaker 1: like when he gets the ball, like what you're scared of.
Speaker 1: But he's a great deal. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like if you know some people are I like that,
Speaker 1: if you smell blood, he gonna eat. But you know,
Speaker 1: if you stand up for yourself or you speak up,
Speaker 1: he he's gonna he gonna respect that. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Understand that, Okay, cool, I understand where you're
Speaker 1: But if not, you know, people you know are intimidated
Speaker 1: by his dominant presence and its demeaning. But like I said,
Speaker 1: you get to know the man. He's one of my
Speaker 1: favorite teammates of all time. I love playing with him
Speaker 1: and I think he's one of the best to ever
Speaker 1: do it. Y'all. I hated that he went down pack
Speaker 1: the back injuries like that, and like I said, just
Speaker 1: even like I said, those two with them too, they
Speaker 1: could change the game back to where and he was
Speaker 1: looking for big mens because you can stretch, we can
Speaker 1: stretch the floor. He won't, but ship that the games
Speaker 1: wanted to paint. I mean that month, you can't stop him.
Speaker 1: He's gonna demand. I'm saying it's now double. I'm saying
Speaker 1: it's now boogie cogs boogiecause it's come back player of
Speaker 1: the year. Watch. But if he if he's healthy, if
Speaker 1: he's healthy, he's gonna suck it up down. I already
Speaker 1: know that one that anybody here going to demand a
Speaker 1: double for show. So I'm glad. Yeah, I mean, I say,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, you could, we could go
Speaker 1: back and forth. But as far as skilled centers, he's
Speaker 1: probably the most skilled big man we've ever seen from
Speaker 1: There was not a hole in this game from the
Speaker 1: block to the three point line. There wasn't you know
Speaker 1: everything you never I love about that motherfucker boy is
Speaker 1: when we play sacking Mino, when I was a stacked
Speaker 1: with him, you know before every game was a big man.
Speaker 1: If we got to play against he b like, Nick,
Speaker 1: I'm about to fund this nigg up, I'd be like, oh,
Speaker 1: I can't wait to get the ball, big felling. I
Speaker 1: love it off Like he won't. He was like, I'm ready,
Speaker 1: Biggs ain't talking about that was cool. I ain't say
Speaker 1: the name, but he was sucking a all up you
Speaker 1: when they know that the niggas niggas getting niggas getting
Speaker 1: thrown out the game because they won't play against this nigga. Man,
Speaker 1: he was an animal like watching listen watching film back
Speaker 1: when I said, I told you like I watched myself
Speaker 1: then I usually watch cousin. When I was in sack
Speaker 1: Man and Ship. He used to do like on film
Speaker 1: that you didn't even see. Unreal he was. He reminded
Speaker 1: me a lot of a little bit of kg. You know.
Speaker 1: I mean like he might mean boom one of these
Speaker 1: you know the rebound. Ain't saying that like he just
Speaker 1: he was a bullyou he could he could talk about
Speaker 1: he can back it up with his game. He go
Speaker 1: get you fifty and twenty like easy. That's what I'm saying. Easy.
Speaker 1: And but like you said, don't sleep on how good
Speaker 1: he could pass the motherfucking ball like man, he could
Speaker 1: really average a triple double. That's how good he is.
Speaker 1: He gonna demanded double. He can throw one hand, wrap
Speaker 1: around any past your name, and he can bring the
Speaker 1: bitch off off the off the glass. He's like all right,
Speaker 1: but I said, I actually have to let him bring
Speaker 1: it up the court like he was too good not
Speaker 1: to me trying to like, okay, let me look at
Speaker 1: the bar, and so he got it. I gotta get
Speaker 1: out the way, I gotta run the flow. Let me
Speaker 1: try to step up or something, let me get involved.
Speaker 1: But he was he can play, yo. He has some moves. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I hope you know, all for all of it, you know,
Speaker 1: for his sake, but definitely coming from all of us. Man,
Speaker 1: I hope he has a healthy else back a year
Speaker 1: because he was. It was sad the way the game
Speaker 1: was taken from him at at the point of career
Speaker 1: where he was at, you know what I mean. He
Speaker 1: was still young. Like I said, he was on the
Speaker 1: brink of two million. Never get the two hundred million back.
Speaker 1: But I think at the end of the day, he
Speaker 1: just wants to play. He just wants to be healthy
Speaker 1: and have a chance, and hopefully he'll have that in Houston. Man.
Speaker 1: So if you see this, you big ugly motherfucker, good luck.
Speaker 1: That's my boy. I love Buggy. I had a chance
Speaker 1: to play with him a Sacramento man, and it was
Speaker 1: almost like I was a cousin whisper like they would
Speaker 1: come to me because Rondo knows you don't really you
Speaker 1: don't really funk with respect too many people. But when
Speaker 1: he respects you, he'll listen to you. So I'm sure.
Speaker 1: I'm sure Rondo had his ear, but I had his
Speaker 1: ear too. So it was me kind of like because Jack,
Speaker 1: you know me, and you like for me to have
Speaker 1: to try to calm down you were you to try
Speaker 1: to calm down me just seeing his young fire was
Speaker 1: like us in in in in Golden States. So me
Speaker 1: just trying to, you know, maneuver him through the technical
Speaker 1: fouls and you don't need all this and let me
Speaker 1: handle this and let me get in trouble for you,
Speaker 1: like let me. But he was figuring it out, man,
Speaker 1: And I really think, you know, it's sad how quick
Speaker 1: people forget. But then, like you said, the disrespect put
Speaker 1: on his name because he was the code is big
Speaker 1: in the game when he was healthy, no question ending
Speaker 1: up in Los Angeles, What was that process like for you?
Speaker 1: And from your early days did you ever think you
Speaker 1: would be a Laker. I didn't think I'd be a leker,
Speaker 1: But at the time y'all had two teams called so ship.
Speaker 1: I mean I know that, you know it was my time.
Speaker 1: Who was different? Who was on the table? I think
Speaker 1: it might have been New Orleans at the time. You
Speaker 1: want me the money, leve, try and get me out
Speaker 1: of here. What you want me to do? Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to figure it out. That's how I go. That's
Speaker 1: just how I go. Right, quick, turnaround. You're going into
Speaker 1: your fifteenth year. Where where's your body at? Where's your
Speaker 1: mind at? You guys literally just finished what two and
Speaker 1: a half months of on you gotta start soon? Um,
Speaker 1: where's your mind that? Mentally and physically? Man, I feel great.
Speaker 1: I'm locked in. I said, I'm down a and I'm
Speaker 1: on it. Like I said, I got the game planning
Speaker 1: to watching a little bit of tape as far as
Speaker 1: Offensive says they want to run this year, So I
Speaker 1: gotta figure out quickly. I mean, how to MANI theate
Speaker 1: the game and who to put people in certain spots.
Speaker 1: So I'm enjoying the process so far. It's different, Yo,
Speaker 1: the game is different now like this league. Ship, How
Speaker 1: we got this COVID testing and we got the schedule
Speaker 1: so crazy that we can't even interact with our teammates
Speaker 1: for the most part, Uh in the locker room. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like we're in groups of four right now, and
Speaker 1: you know you've got to train and table, you've got
Speaker 1: weight room, court, get your ass out, m straight like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, no, ain't no sitting around rock room talking
Speaker 1: to the guys getting no one. They're trying to get
Speaker 1: you out of here. And we're in the locker room
Speaker 1: with masks on. Yeah you know, I mean talking. So
Speaker 1: it's just it's a little bit different. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: still trying to know how to you know, get the
Speaker 1: chemistry and the comarader with guys. We're taking foe buses
Speaker 1: this year, you know what I mean. It's like only
Speaker 1: thirtain amounting for that ast of time. So it's like
Speaker 1: it's now we all have to adjust and adapt to it,
Speaker 1: which would be fine, but um, you know, it's it's different,
Speaker 1: and I'm just trying to like just just adapt and
Speaker 1: enjoy the process getting settled. I learned the system, but
Speaker 1: you know, it is what it is. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I feel great and we'll see them satisfying. We've been
Speaker 1: doing a couple of four court drills, you know, here
Speaker 1: and back and forething and what I pried myself on.
Speaker 1: That is like I never get a drink. It's just
Speaker 1: feeling to see a couple of young guys over there,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean gas and for air, a little
Speaker 1: bit can get water. Ship. I'm like, okay, I might.
Speaker 1: I'm thirty four. If the drug test it was like
Speaker 1: it was now, man, we could have played all year round, easy,
Speaker 1: easy around. You don't need to break. As long as
Speaker 1: I can burn it down. I'm ready all year round.
Speaker 1: My let's go. I mean, I mean I did. I
Speaker 1: did like I burned it down my whole entire career.
Speaker 1: But it's funny because I took pride in being the
Speaker 1: one most of the most in shape people. If you
Speaker 1: look back when I played like I was always top
Speaker 1: ten in miles during the season because my game was
Speaker 1: running and I love to run. But I knew I
Speaker 1: had to bust my ass in the summertime because I
Speaker 1: was gonna smoke that much weed to get me through
Speaker 1: the season. And I need because to me, it wasn't
Speaker 1: really the alcohol, it wasn't the peels, but my stomach up.
Speaker 1: So I knew I had to go a bug and
Speaker 1: beyond my cardio so I could burn my tree during
Speaker 1: the season straight up, what were those experiences? Like, I've
Speaker 1: removed myself obviously retired from basketball. I don't miss playing
Speaker 1: at all, not one bit. But you touched on something,
Speaker 1: kicking it in the locker room most of the time
Speaker 1: after practice with some of the funnest times in my life,
Speaker 1: just sit there, talk shit ice. Sometimes you stay in
Speaker 1: that bit for two hours, just talking with someone and laughing,
Speaker 1: laughing the whole time. That's like, no bullshit. That's one
Speaker 1: of the things I miss is just that locker room time.
Speaker 1: And like you said, well COVID, obviously it's not the
Speaker 1: same feeling, but touch on how just fund them locker
Speaker 1: room times were with you? You could just had a
Speaker 1: hell of a practice or a tough ass game. Sometimes
Speaker 1: you said, I can't remember enough that that's the best
Speaker 1: time y'all. Even like I said, me playing with so
Speaker 1: many different teams, all all the guys in the chemistry,
Speaker 1: that the fun times we're in the locker room, you know,
Speaker 1: whether before the games or after practice, it was. It
Speaker 1: was a lot of crazy things. And uh, that's a
Speaker 1: funny story when that comes a man. When you said that,
Speaker 1: So there's so many there's so many stories that all
Speaker 1: the funniest stories come from the motherfucker locker room. Trust me, listen.
Speaker 1: We and the Motherfucker we were in New Orleans a
Speaker 1: couple of years back and we got some gamblers on
Speaker 1: the team. We were gambling or whatever throughout team. What
Speaker 1: what team were you on? I'm in New Orleans with
Speaker 1: the I'm with the Palestor note so we're actually in
Speaker 1: like so what happened was we had a delay. The
Speaker 1: raining had a leakage in it. So we're sitting there
Speaker 1: on you from the locker room and it is a delay.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, ship, let's get it in like Nigga's
Speaker 1: oh money whatever. So right, but they got sitting in
Speaker 1: the locker room like we gotta wait the hour and
Speaker 1: had to play the game. I'm like, man, play the
Speaker 1: game for you wanted to sit that We first of
Speaker 1: all warmed up, they stopped. They stopped it so we
Speaker 1: couldn't go out. I'm like, you want to sit in
Speaker 1: the locker room for an hour and a half and
Speaker 1: then go play a motherfucking game. I'm like, yeah, okay, cool, whatever.
Speaker 1: So we're sitting there for without chilling anybody doing that,
Speaker 1: Okay cool. I'm like, sucking man, bring the cars out.
Speaker 1: We end up getting the cars out gambling right there
Speaker 1: before the game. Man. We didn't play the game, but
Speaker 1: it was like this we got inn we paid out
Speaker 1: the cards. Like I said, this team ship. We was
Speaker 1: vibe and put the music on whatever our gymer managed
Speaker 1: came in there and he was like, y'all playing. Were like, no,
Speaker 1: we ain't playing, but you're trying to None of that
Speaker 1: slaves right now. We ain't gonna just sitting at ourselves up.
Speaker 1: We just said for two hour cold out and let
Speaker 1: me go and played for sprint. Now it's over. So
Speaker 1: we end up gambling getting it in. It was funny,
Speaker 1: like I said, it was a good time. We laughed
Speaker 1: about it to this day and uh, you know, that
Speaker 1: was one of my funny locker times. I can imagine, Bro,
Speaker 1: I can imagine you t a big baby. Kg Perk
Speaker 1: and Paul are on the same locker room. Dog. That's
Speaker 1: kind of classic. That's kind of that's got into a
Speaker 1: bad locker room one day. I have to practice too, though,
Speaker 1: like buckets of water, throwing each other, like tacking the
Speaker 1: We got some crazy movements doing the locker room. So
Speaker 1: that's where it all go down. That's where closer though.
Speaker 1: That made you all closer though, all that ship battle
Speaker 1: testing all right, man, were down the quick hitters. Just
Speaker 1: first thing that comes to mind when they asked these questions,
Speaker 1: who's one player you haven't played with that you wish
Speaker 1: you could have got a choir? Would like to get
Speaker 1: a chance to play with Katie? Oh, motherfucker's are in
Speaker 1: trouble this year? Man, I didn't see film on Katie
Speaker 1: in the summertime because he was playing in my homeboy.
Speaker 1: Rico Haynes runs KD is back. Yeah, you're proudly easy
Speaker 1: easy and he's doing it. He can do it on
Speaker 1: both and so Ship, Yes, yes, sir, you and four
Speaker 1: other players to go to the black Top and run
Speaker 1: the court all day. Who you go? Who you for? Players?
Speaker 1: You pick the outdoors because because Aby Bradley of course,
Speaker 1: Uh the Mosquito. I'm gonna go with Drew. Lord, they're
Speaker 1: not scoring on y'all for show them too, motherfucker's who
Speaker 1: who my forward? I'm out this fuck with KG Ship
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah, that's Y're definitely gonna win all day.
Speaker 1: So you Bradley, uh, KG, Drew and Boogie and y'all go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: y'all gonna win one way or another. You most like
Speaker 1: you on, but y'all go have a great chance in
Speaker 1: winning in the scrap too, if you come down to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah sir, Yeah sir. Right now for you top five
Speaker 1: artists or who are you listening to the most little baby?
Speaker 1: Little Baby J? Cole Drake in one. Yeah, this kind
Speaker 1: of lead this kind of leads me into my next question.
Speaker 1: You've been named dropped by several artists, Wayne J. Cole, Pusher, Uh,
Speaker 1: Tiger Trey, to name a few. What's been your favorite
Speaker 1: name dropped us far on? Maybe maybe Jeez, he had one.
Speaker 1: I know he had one. There's a couple of them
Speaker 1: that I like, like that's uh, you know they're old
Speaker 1: now and the old ship now they still don't though, Well,
Speaker 1: what was it like here? Like you mean, you're a
Speaker 1: kid from Louisville, Kentucky, Like, what was it like hearing
Speaker 1: dude you look up to in a whole another space talk,
Speaker 1: you know, talk to you about you? But Matt, one
Speaker 1: of the famous lines all all rappers say, I keep
Speaker 1: a nine on me, like Rondo, that's what's favorite line?
Speaker 1: Stay fat that green on me? Like yeah, okay, right whatever,
Speaker 1: So it's Uh, it's unreal, yo, It's it's so it's
Speaker 1: so much. It's dope. How much love like it? Especially
Speaker 1: in our community. You know what I mean when I'm
Speaker 1: out in the clubs where if I go like Nigga's
Speaker 1: love me and it's like you may be respected and
Speaker 1: loved by your peers like that. Uh you know, being
Speaker 1: when I'm fromt Like I said, it's this dope feeling
Speaker 1: and being able to be mentioned in so many rap songs.
Speaker 1: Uh you know now I'm like said, my kids get
Speaker 1: a kick out of it, and uh, you know it's dope.
Speaker 1: It's dope, dope to have that, you know, they experienced
Speaker 1: to be a part of something as far as a
Speaker 1: rap history favorite point guard battle De Rose d Rose
Speaker 1: the God two point Guards, his rookie year, is that
Speaker 1: Nigga's seven games problem? Can you can you? Can you
Speaker 1: compare a prime time De Rose to anyone you've ever
Speaker 1: either either played against or seen? Can you compare them
Speaker 1: to anybody? No man, anybody. I was about to say,
Speaker 1: you candy him like seven games here when he was
Speaker 1: a you're putting your gass in trouble. You on your
Speaker 1: heels the whole game, The whole game English. You know,
Speaker 1: one person in front of him, you got a whole
Speaker 1: scouting port on him, for sure. That's how we packed
Speaker 1: the paint, packed the paint. And he's still getting there, everybody,
Speaker 1: He's still gonna get in there. But then he could
Speaker 1: he could hit that little one dribble pull up to
Speaker 1: he's hitting that too. He's hitting threes when he's rolling
Speaker 1: like he wasn't. He was too exclosively and he was
Speaker 1: a shore one man fast break every uh five dinner
Speaker 1: guests dead are alive? Mm hmmm, big mhm jay z
Speaker 1: m hmm, oprah mm hmmm. H my mom, that's gonna
Speaker 1: be a dope one. That's gonna be a dope. You got,
Speaker 1: you got, you got, you got some warrior as in
Speaker 1: some entrepreneurs at the table, and and and two queens.
Speaker 1: You can't lose. Who do you want to see on
Speaker 1: All the Smoke? Whatever you're answers, you have to help
Speaker 1: us get this guests on. Josh mill Oh, that would
Speaker 1: be a good one, of course. Man. I think I've
Speaker 1: seen him, I've seen it, but I've seen him recently.
Speaker 1: I told him if I wanted to have him on
Speaker 1: the show, would be a good one. That'd be a
Speaker 1: good one. I like that Atlanta got to so you
Speaker 1: know here in Atlanta two app massive we can get it. Yeah. Hey,
Speaker 1: something that just came to my mind just while we
Speaker 1: were doing these quick hitters. And I wouldn't be me
Speaker 1: if I didn't ask it. What's the deal with you
Speaker 1: and CP three? Let's deal with us? Yeah? Like to me,
Speaker 1: like not, I don't know. You know, you played against
Speaker 1: you a long time. I'm getting to know you now,
Speaker 1: knowing CP CPS and a chuired taste. But I see
Speaker 1: very a lot of similarity as far as the way
Speaker 1: you guys managed the game and thinking our leaders. But
Speaker 1: you guys just butt heads and then sometimes that ship happens.
Speaker 1: They both they both too damn smart. That's what it is.
Speaker 1: You think. You think you're smart, and I'm smart. I'm
Speaker 1: the smartest point guard the game. No I am. But
Speaker 1: now I'm gonna punch you in the face because I
Speaker 1: think I'm smart. Hey, I ain't got no problem about it, man.
Speaker 1: I'm just a lot to compete, you know. I mean
Speaker 1: obviously he does as well, and he just go at it.
Speaker 1: You know, it's nothing I don't like. I said me. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't feel like it's personal. That situation happened. You know,
Speaker 1: obviously he at the moment, but I just try to
Speaker 1: you can go out him every time I can. That's
Speaker 1: just any point gonna play against nothing, particle Like I'm
Speaker 1: getting Elevator in the game for him and ship. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to fuck everybody else. So it is what it is.
Speaker 1: That's between the lines, that what goes on between the lines.
Speaker 1: I mean, that was a throwback basketball to me. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know me and Jack, that's me and Jack Speed.
Speaker 1: So when I seen I was like, Okay, I like this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's he's clever, you know. I mean I watched him play.
Speaker 1: Understand he's dirty too, now you know that's my boy,
Speaker 1: but he wanted dirties. Motherfucker's in the game. I gotta
Speaker 1: say that that is my boy. I fight for CP,
Speaker 1: but he is one of the dirtiest players ever in
Speaker 1: the NBA. Dog hands down, mm hmmmmmm CP three. Hey man,
Speaker 1: Well that's a wrap. Thank you Reigion for your time. Man,
Speaker 1: Congratulations on the win. I hope you enjoyed the off season,
Speaker 1: and good luck in Atlanta. Jack Show, good job, and
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