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Speaker 1: Welcome to All the Smoke, a production of The Black

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Speaker 1: Effect and our Heart Radio and partnership with Showtime. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back Man, season two of All the Smoke. We got

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Speaker 1: a real special guys, what's up with your Brodie with

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Speaker 1: the virtual head shake. I'm gonna tell you I never

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Speaker 1: told go back. I want welcome back to another edition

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Speaker 1: All the Smoke. Jack. What's going on? Bro? My brother,

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Speaker 1: we're back. What's going on? Man? I can't call him man,

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Speaker 1: just getting through the day. It's my my week with

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Speaker 1: the kids, so it's NonStop twins. Ashton running around the

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Speaker 1: house opening everything. So I got a little pit stop

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Speaker 1: real quick to uh knock this interview out today. Man,

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Speaker 1: how's everything out there? Man? Everything's good? And speaking of

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Speaker 1: ash you know Sky's running around with Speaking of ash

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Speaker 1: my man, take a showers already, Bro, it's crazy. It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: He like a little key like he can't get the

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Speaker 1: soap in his head. But once I get the soap

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Speaker 1: in his hand, he could rub it on his body.

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Speaker 1: But he told me the other day, said daddy know

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Speaker 1: and like shut the ship on me like he loves

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Speaker 1: like when I say this is shower time. This broke

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Speaker 1: this dude, will you know, make his way upstairs, fast

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Speaker 1: up the stairs, you know how to take his diaper off,

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Speaker 1: clothes off, and he's ready, so it's solid. At least

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Speaker 1: I know it's gonna be clean. But anyway, man, they

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Speaker 1: appreciate that, thank you very much. But we got man

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Speaker 1: two time NBA champ, if I'm not mistaken, the only

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Speaker 1: person in the history of the NBA to win a

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Speaker 1: ring with the Boston Celtics in the Los Angeles Lakers

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Speaker 1: just recently signed a two year deal with the Atlanta Hawks.

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Speaker 1: Welcome and region Rondo appreciate. It's what's up nine, How

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Speaker 1: are you? Yeah, we're supposed to do this and we're

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Speaker 1: supposed to do this interview last week, but he was

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Speaker 1: he was on vacation. The WiFi was spotty, so we

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Speaker 1: we we had to push this. But I'm glad we

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Speaker 1: finally were able to track you down and yeah, wherever

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Speaker 1: you was, but you had you had some lions and

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Speaker 1: tigers and bass showing on the Wi Fi car and

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Speaker 1: I don't know where you It was horrible, So I'm

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Speaker 1: glad we had to get rescheduled and got this thing

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Speaker 1: going to that. Well, let's get to it. You know,

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Speaker 1: you come off a championship with the Los Angeles Lakers. Uh,

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Speaker 1: what what years schooling you're going into? What year going

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Speaker 1: into year fifteen? What was your deciding factor, um to

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Speaker 1: go back to the Lakers or take a little more

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Speaker 1: lucrative deal um with Atlanta. Not one prior to his family,

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Speaker 1: So for me to be close to my family more

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Speaker 1: on the East Coast. Um, and then obviously playing for

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Speaker 1: a young organization, helping a lot of these young guys out.

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Speaker 1: You know, they made a couple of me to call

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Speaker 1: and you know, once it was over, as far as

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Speaker 1: I'm talking how much they wanted me there and they

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Speaker 1: wanted to learn from me. So, um, I'm glad I

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Speaker 1: made a decision being able to to be a veteran

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Speaker 1: the trade younger going into this knowing how much you're

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Speaker 1: gonna mentor him, and that's being players. We know the

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Speaker 1: education you're gonna give him. Hi high expiring. How excited

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Speaker 1: are you to going to be able to give that

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Speaker 1: the game. I'm very excited. Uh. You know, we've been

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Speaker 1: kind of picking each other's brain and getting up some

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Speaker 1: I'm ready to give him whatever I have, obviously trying

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to teach him and all the other young

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Speaker 1: guys as well. But I think it's great too from

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Speaker 1: a standpoint, and you're gonna allow him to do more

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Speaker 1: the side on the run. Is that everyone loading up

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Speaker 1: to him up top, So I think obviously similar to

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Speaker 1: You guys got two young monsters next to you, and

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Speaker 1: that opportunity of passing all your knowledge of the game,

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Speaker 1: because you're one of the greatest minds that ever played

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Speaker 1: You guys are out in the landing now. You mentioned

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Speaker 1: was it like? Um? You know, as I mentioned at

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Speaker 1: the top of the show, you want a championship for

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Speaker 1: But has it kind of sunk in that you won

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Speaker 1: It's definitely sunk in, but you know it's still being

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Speaker 1: But um, you know, I see it. I hear it

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Speaker 1: You know you obviously guys you saw it. It's crazy

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Speaker 1: quick story. When I went back in uh oh eight,

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Speaker 1: You know, leaving the bubble was it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: But after leaving, you know, I enjoyed myself in a

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Speaker 1: that was a was a beautiful picture. It's funny you

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Speaker 1: that kids. Uh in a little side, No, I think

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Speaker 1: Or Um? I had questions. I wasn't even thinking about

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Speaker 1: going into the bubble initially. UM, you know, that was

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Speaker 1: But after I broke my thumb, I didn't have doubts

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Speaker 1: trade happened, you know, the same year, same players go KG.

429
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Speaker 1: I think that I heard KG said he wanted me

430
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Speaker 1: to stay, so boom we win a championship. But throughout

431
00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,159
Speaker 1: that year it was tough, yo, but Doc helped me

432
00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,680
Speaker 1: get through it. Obviously understanding you know he's played I

433
00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,360
Speaker 1: think he played with two Hall of Famers at the time,

434
00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,400
Speaker 1: and just how to navigate and keep those guys happy. Um,

435
00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,120
Speaker 1: you know, I think I'm blessed and fortunately, like I said,

436
00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,600
Speaker 1: I played baseball, football, basketball all three growing up, so

437
00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,480
Speaker 1: I kind of had that leader mentality, leader mindset growing

438
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Speaker 1: up as far as it's being a believer in being

439
00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:47,719
Speaker 1: a student of the game whatever I wanted to to accomplish,

440
00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,200
Speaker 1: And that will show those guys are under respect, you know,

441
00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,040
Speaker 1: back with my my knowledge and my work ethic. You

442
00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,520
Speaker 1: can't deny me or you can't you know, not hand

443
00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,800
Speaker 1: me the keys and you know giving them granted, Uh

444
00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,879
Speaker 1: they didn't, you know, that's earlier. Obviously want to give

445
00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:02,320
Speaker 1: me the keys. At first, I had to earn their respect.

446
00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,080
Speaker 1: I did that throughout the season. Um, they ain't still

447
00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,440
Speaker 1: trusting me. I communicated with my guys all the time

448
00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,440
Speaker 1: on the court, you know what I mean. Like I

449
00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,840
Speaker 1: prided myself on having the most touches. There's a stat

450
00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,399
Speaker 1: back in the day when Steve played, and um, I

451
00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,359
Speaker 1: think one year he had beat me in most touches

452
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Speaker 1: with his teammates, you know what I mean as far

453
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Speaker 1: as like coming back, running back on defense, touch or

454
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Speaker 1: coming that time I was touched like that, that mindset,

455
00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,760
Speaker 1: you know, also helped me kind of earned their respect

456
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Speaker 1: and this to gather that I could probably kind of

457
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Speaker 1: bring teams together that I don't mean to cut you off,

458
00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,040
Speaker 1: but see that's that's how you set them apart. Who

459
00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,200
Speaker 1: thinks about stuff like that? Right? I love hearing this ship.

460
00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,400
Speaker 1: I love hearing this ship. I love that. Damn that's crazy.

461
00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,119
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that was a stat. Yeah it was.

462
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Speaker 1: It was Steve beat me when y'all I was like,

463
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Speaker 1: damn beat me. I mean, like that's what you know,

464
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Speaker 1: that's just like I said, how I am. But it

465
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Speaker 1: it wasn't forceful like I said. There's always you know,

466
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Speaker 1: me being the point you know what I mean, Like

467
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Speaker 1: everybody runs back to the point guard, you know what

468
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Speaker 1: I mean. So okay, good shot, good what is that

469
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Speaker 1: that pick like it just you know, positive encouragement and

470
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Speaker 1: talking to my team to where you know, we feel

471
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Speaker 1: confident about what we're doing and were ready to lock

472
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Speaker 1: the funk in. Everybody know what we're doing. Only stat

473
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Speaker 1: Jack knew was motherfucking f g A S f J

474
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Speaker 1: speaking of that though. That's that's what Danny. That's the

475
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Speaker 1: key thing Danny told me. Game sticks back in our way.

476
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Speaker 1: He was like f g A, he said, he said,

477
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Speaker 1: put him up against Coble. He said, put him up,

478
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Speaker 1: I play. You gotta be aggressive. I end up shooting

479
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Speaker 1: twenty one field goals of that game. But see I

480
00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,320
Speaker 1: remember that though, because obviously, you know, being in the

481
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Speaker 1: league the same time, I remember cob used to play

482
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Speaker 1: you under the free throw line sometimes, you know what

483
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,560
Speaker 1: I mean. And it kind of could clogged the defense

484
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Speaker 1: up for everyone else, for all the curls and all

485
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,200
Speaker 1: the ship in the paint and it, and it took

486
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Speaker 1: you to be more aggressive for him to come out

487
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Speaker 1: and motherfucking guard you, right, So that he was the

488
00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,480
Speaker 1: first to do that, then obviously he set that. He

489
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Speaker 1: set the trend. I mean a couple of years that

490
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Speaker 1: I think Brown was playing like that in the playoffs

491
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Speaker 1: and and they put a bigger guard on me that

492
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Speaker 1: type of mentality. So I was like, okay, cool, I

493
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Speaker 1: gotta figure out how to dash that. This I got

494
00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,480
Speaker 1: you know, this is this is playoff Okay, I get it. Okay,

495
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,680
Speaker 1: Now I gotta elevate because I think throughout the playoffs,

496
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Speaker 1: no one that played me that way. And Kobe, you know,

497
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,520
Speaker 1: that's why you arresting peace one Grace. I love the

498
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,119
Speaker 1: Peters because he understood the mindset of the game and

499
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Speaker 1: just had a you know, we it was a chess

500
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 1: match out there, and I love playing against it with him,

501
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 1: you know. And also you know, obviously gotta give Phil

502
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Speaker 1: Jackson credit as well. What is it about like you

503
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 1: and like Jaked, like even Jakid, like y'all wasn't shooters

504
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,159
Speaker 1: now now they can't leave y'all open m That's what

505
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 1: he telling me too. But now just you know, just

506
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Speaker 1: working and not giving the funk, you know what I mean? Ship, Yeah,

507
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 1: but but on some real ship that not giving a

508
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 1: fun meter has to be really high. And to me,

509
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Speaker 1: that's the only thing holding Ben Simmons back right now

510
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 1: is that I don't give a funk meter and what

511
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Speaker 1: you get over that. I don't give a meter. You're good.

512
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Speaker 1: The crazy part is you look around the league nigger

513
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:56,160
Speaker 1: shooting three for seven teen. I'm like, what come on, okay,

514
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 1: all right, get up til three, nick, I'm a five

515
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 1: five of the mothers exactly exactly, exactly real. But you

516
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,360
Speaker 1: got But you gotta get over that though, Like you said,

517
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,199
Speaker 1: how what what was it difficult for you to get

518
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 1: over that? You embraced it right away because you are

519
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 1: a past pass first type of guy. So was it

520
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 1: hard for you to actually take that mentality on? It was?

521
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 1: You know still at times, you know, it's just my

522
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 1: mindset is always thinking open man. But you know, the

523
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Speaker 1: way the game is played today. When I'm able to

524
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Speaker 1: stay in the league now, like I said, they've been

525
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Speaker 1: telling me, I gotta take it so um. Like I said,

526
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Speaker 1: I'm looking for that motherfucker. I'm trying to get him up.

527
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 1: I ain't got nothing to lose, you know what I mean.

528
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna make any back in the game so many

529
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Speaker 1: other ways, so I get three D bit just on. Yeah,

530
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 1: all right, back, let's let's go back to bron Rondo.

531
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Speaker 1: Give me one thing that you could say you actually

532
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Speaker 1: learned from the King. I call him the k A

533
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Speaker 1: n G. The King. I think I actually learned as

534
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Speaker 1: far as game while I was like or or or

535
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 1: yea or or just something you previously didn't know about him,

536
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like you hear a lot

537
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 1: of different things, like what is something you learned from

538
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 1: him that you just didn't know? Like damn, Okay, I

539
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 1: mean I'll go I might say it's disciplined. I just

540
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 1: think it's discipline, you know, Like I said, he got

541
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Speaker 1: the best guy working on his body in the game. Uh,

542
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 1: and everything to do is you know, it's routine, strategically

543
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 1: routine as far as the rest diet, you know what

544
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 1: I mean, like from top to bottom. The only person

545
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Speaker 1: that was KG. But like I said, Lebron is the

546
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Speaker 1: way he's daily doing exactly what he needs to be doing.

547
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Speaker 1: It is a match. So it's like you, I can

548
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 1: tell you that, but you can't really understand until you

549
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 1: like see it, like damn, like I see him every

550
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 1: day like and he's he ain't taking no shortcause like

551
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 1: he owned it, locked in love it, so putting them

552
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 1: days together. What was it like going from being a

553
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Speaker 1: Boston Celtic to winning a championship for the Lakers. The

554
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 1: year Kobe passes, it was a lot. This is the

555
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 1: emotional rollercoaster the year m H winning it, you know

556
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: for Kobe, the year Cope passes is unreal. There's something

557
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 1: you can't imagine obviously, be playing against a couple of finals, uh,

558
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 1: you know, in the in the same uniform. So h

559
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Speaker 1: it was. It was a tough one. I said. We

560
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Speaker 1: all understood the mindset and the goal of what we had,

561
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Speaker 1: what we're trying to attain, and who we were doing

562
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: it for. So do to be able to you know,

563
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 1: kind of like you said, say that full circle accomplish

564
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Speaker 1: your goal. It was just a real moment and it's

565
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 1: definitely something but you know it would be grateful for

566
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 1: I'm sure the rest of our life. So it was

567
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: a dope moment. It's been. It's been a dope moment

568
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 1: despite everything else, you know, I mean, just being able

569
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:57,959
Speaker 1: to share some light in that in that aspect, I mean,

570
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: it's been amazing to me. You know, people talk about

571
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 1: this should be an asterisk. To me, this should be

572
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: a gold star considering what the world was going through,

573
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 1: what you guys had to go through to to to

574
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Speaker 1: get in the bubble, and stay safe and still carry

575
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 1: your message and still be away from your family. To me,

576
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: the game is mental. Once you get to this level,

577
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 1: everyone could pretty much do everything. So who mentally, like

578
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 1: you said, with Broun's discipline, or who can really lock

579
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,880
Speaker 1: in for this time and understand the task at hands.

580
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,120
Speaker 1: So for all those people to say this is an asterist,

581
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: this ship and then the man funk that, there's gotta

582
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: be a gold star considering how fucked up it, how

583
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 1: fucked up in your ties been as a whole. Absolutely,

584
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 1: I can't wait within my room. I'm gonna wear my

585
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: last Yeah, I saw, I saw Braun. He did an

586
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Speaker 1: interview Richard Jefferson Um not too long ago, and he

587
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 1: said the one thing he was disappointed was was not

588
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 1: being able to party with his teammates. Obviously said, you know,

589
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 1: the locker room is cool, the parade is cool for

590
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 1: the fans. But then, and I heard before this, you

591
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 1: guys are a really close team. You guys moved as

592
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Speaker 1: a unit. So how disappointing was it for you, even

593
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: though you're old, wildly vetting you want to sit at

594
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Speaker 1: home with the family, to not be able to a

595
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 1: party with you team. You know, when you win a

596
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: championship because those obviously the ships don't come around all

597
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: the time. That's the time to turn up. That's right.

598
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: You get everybody in the past, you can, right. So no,

599
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: it was you know, it wasn't uh, you know, it

600
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: wasn't what you would expect. It was difficult, you know,

601
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: I just you just gotta appreciate what we did. You know,

602
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: we didnt get the opportunity to kind of go crazy

603
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: and celebrate it due to the situations. But let's just hoies, Ben,

604
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 1: you know, it's just roll with the punches. Like I said,

605
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 1: its warts up and down. You you take your wins

606
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: when you can't understand, you know, some things uncontrollable. So

607
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 1: you know, where were unite, you know what I mean?

608
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 1: Like ship, we're still out here. So it's something they

609
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: can never take away from us. So it might not

610
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: be the ideal right after right after the CHIP championship celebration,

611
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: but we figured some ship out in a lot of

612
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 1: guys we got on this team. You know, we can

613
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 1: make some moves. Um. Growing up in Louisville, Kentucky, multi

614
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 1: sport athletes, UM, similar to me, didn't really tune in

615
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 1: to basketball until I got older, Like I watched the Lakers,

616
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: but outside of that, I wasn't really following college basketball,

617
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 1: know who like that. I was just out there playing sports.

618
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: When did basketball become serious to you? It became serious

619
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 1: to me probably with my senior at Okaill you know

620
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like I played sports growing up. Now

621
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: I take that back. It might have been serious maybe

622
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 1: junior year, I say. Junior year, I would say, but

623
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: I still didn't know, you know what I mean. I

624
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: had an opportunity to kind of get to leave, but

625
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: I understood that. Um. You know, I had a mentor

626
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: growing up that I met when I was like fifteen

627
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 1: years old, Um, Derek Anderson. And I met him. Like,

628
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 1: I'm from Kentucky, so I didn't watch basketball growing up.

629
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: I watched football like I was outside playing. So we

630
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: didn't have a professional team in Louisville. And I was

631
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: just always outside active, so I didn't I didn't grow

632
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 1: up a fan of anybody or anything. And like I said,

633
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: once I met him, uh, you know, he exposed me

634
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: to a lot of different a different life. Basically, you know,

635
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: we picked me up like that's all we're doing, chilling

636
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: that he worked out to or three hours of morning.

637
00:27:58,480 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: The rest of that he got chill. I'm like, Dad,

638
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: this is what you're doing. Like you who were drive

639
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: out to it. We would drive to a big gass crib.

640
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn they are You're doing it like that

641
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 1: Sam Cars. I'm like, Okay, the life, Okay, who I mean,

642
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: let me focus on. Let me locking and try to

643
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,479
Speaker 1: get you know, go this way, because you know, at

644
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 1: to that point, I was just I was just heard,

645
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: you know, with just being fifteen six and year old kid.

646
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: I mean not really, no, really go there's got a

647
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: lot of kids in neighborhood were kicking and we're doing

648
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: whatever we're doing, trying to get through the school. So

649
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: once I met him, my stoo coach Doug Bibby flew

650
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: me out of Sacramental working out with Mike Bibby. So

651
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, everything I can hoop you. I mean,

652
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: I'm over playing ones against the nigga. They ain't killing

653
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: me too much. See what I got. Let me focus

654
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: a little bit more. Um. Then I went to Old

655
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: Kill Academy. I got my boy, my brother to this day,

656
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: Josh Smith and the league they coming, they come to

657
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: scout him, the league coming. See this Nick. I'm like

658
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: ship he they come to see him. You know, we

659
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: had once every day going at it and practice my shot.

660
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: I can keep up this nigg he just you know

661
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: six eight freakish athleticism. But you know I got some

662
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: shipped too. Once they started looking at him as the league, Um,

663
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: I kind of was like, oh, I can get it.

664
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: I can go get you know what I mean. That's

665
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: kind of my master's when I really kind of locked

666
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: in my senior year. I went from Danna Reddy eight

667
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: to make McDonald's my senior year and then um it

668
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: was on every cent. I mean I all got matched

669
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: up with a couple of you know, Sebastian Tilver, Sean Livingston.

670
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: We had. We had I think one of the best

671
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: McDonald classes all time. I'm arguing that with anybody, so

672
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: class old folk. You know, we think we had fourteen

673
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: go out of the league, straight out of the league

674
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: and go to the total League. So you know, once

675
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: I once I got to that point, I was like,

676
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: it's all. I was pissed. Funny, I had to go

677
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: to school. Everybody all when I went out of high school,

678
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, I ain't even know good. I'm going

679
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: to Kentucky. But I'm like everybody went to the league,

680
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: So I had to go to school for a couple

681
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: of years, and you know, here we are. It's funny

682
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: to say something about O Kill because my going into

683
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: my junior year, you know, I can win the state

684
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: championship with Texas. I started getting the name for myself,

685
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: and I started, you know, looking at basketball more shares.

686
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: But once I got the Old Kill and I got

687
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: a chance to experience traveling all around the country, plan

688
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: against the top players and holding my own I think

689
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: that's what made it real for me, you know what

690
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Because before I got the O Kill, I

691
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: never thought about making the McDonald's game. You know, I

692
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: had it. I had a dope class to Kobe, Jermaine

693
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: on Neil, Tim Thomas, Real Hamilton I had, and Mike

694
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: Bibby I had a dope class too. But going to

695
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: O Kill made me realize that I could make it.

696
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I heard you kind of

697
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: speak on that earlier. Absolutely same likewise, when I got

698
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: A Kill got the Josh, we we played four or

699
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: four games that year, like thirty seven on the road,

700
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: and I mean so that was just already getting the set.

701
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: If we did, like most of us did, go to college,

702
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: you know how that mandset to still be able to

703
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: do academics on the road and then make sure you

704
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: get your grades working then who so we're prepared for

705
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: you know, at a young age, the hardest part was

706
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: living on the hill ship man, I'm talking about girls

707
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: on one side, dudes on one side. You can't come

708
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: across the line. Yeah, got a line, boss you Yeah,

709
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: you get calling with the girl you sed to spend

710
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: it off the rip there no questions, right, that's made

711
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: it happen, man, I made it happen, matt if any month. Anyway,

712
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: back to business, what was the recruiting process? Like you

713
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: chose Kentucky, you played for Tubby Smith. Did anyone else

714
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: get a real consideration or being you know, born and

715
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: raised from there? That's where your mind was from the beginning? No, actually,

716
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: um I was. I got off from Louisville my junior

717
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: before I went to Okill, and I said, no, I'm

718
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: gonna wait. So a lot of people thought you don't

719
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: never offered me, But I'm like, you know, it didn't

720
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: really make a difference. I kind of want to wait

721
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: to see where I was at. I got to o Kill,

722
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,719
Speaker 1: so I had about five business set up. I never

723
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: took no out of my visits and being being ok Kill,

724
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: you know, I was like ten hour drive from from

725
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: the crib and my mom was, you know my biggest

726
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: my name wants to paint number one fan. So I

727
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,479
Speaker 1: wanted to be close to her, you know what I mean,

728
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: like going Okay, I miss home like crazy, um, and

729
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: I wanted her to be able to come travel and

730
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: see me. So Kentucky here, I think four or five

731
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: seniors leaving that year, I would opportunity to come in

732
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: and start right away. And the ship was supposed to

733
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: career and we have like I think number two recruited

734
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: class coming in. We had Randal More, Joe Crawford, Mell Bradley,

735
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: Chuck Hayes there already clinizes a booky. So I was like, ship,

736
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: you know, we can go out and rock it out

737
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: and figure, you know, try to get to the lead

738
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: from there. The biggest platform. Mm hmmm. How was it

739
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: being a part of that Kentucky legacy still to this day?

740
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Like I'm really I played

741
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: are be in basketball three? The most story franchises. You

742
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like it's let me recognize, I

743
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: mean right behind, right behind, right behind you see la,

744
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: But I feel you go ahead now, we ain't done

745
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: ship lately. Now it's definitely Kentucky now, I mean U C.

746
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: L a Is is played out unfortunately, but it's definitely

747
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: Kentucky is the mecca for college basketball now that's for sure.

748
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: And point go out of cat right now, even Ship

749
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: since the abandoned brothers man for no, you ain't lying

750
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: absolutely right now resting Kevin Love and them had their

751
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: nice little run but never won a championship, like we

752
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: ain't won the championships. I think Drew was a little older.

753
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: It was Derren Collins. It was Darren Collinson, Russell Westbrook, Yeah,

754
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: Kevin Love. They had a good team but could never

755
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: get over the hump. And then we had a dope

756
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: team too. But our coaches are only a couple of

757
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: years older than us, laugh at just like her thirties.

758
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: So motherfucker's out trying to chase holes just like we were.

759
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: So we we all we had like nine pros or

760
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: eight pros. Go pro off our team, but we didn't

761
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:48,959
Speaker 1: win ship. So you decided you decided to make that jump. Um,

762
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: the Knicks passed on you at twenty and you went

763
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: twenty one to the Sons? Did playing and being but

764
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: being a Nick ever crossed your mind and the thoughts

765
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: of what it would be like to to to be

766
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: a point Guarden for that it is a historical franchise,

767
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: even though I haven't done nothing a long time, but

768
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: just thinking like changing the culture in their mental Did

769
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: that cross your mind seeing that they were right there? No,

770
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: I didn't give a damn where I win. I was

771
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 1: with my name. It's so crazy because the nigga went

772
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: in front of me. Dude in front of me. His

773
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: name is Ronaldo Balkman. Yeah, that's who got knocked out

774
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: by Mellow. They said, okay, you know means they gat me.

775
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: I thought I was ready to get picked that in.

776
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: I don't know that wasn't he was just on the

777
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: team my bad four winning season. Then it all changes

778
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,439
Speaker 1: someone when you get KG and ray Allen y'all bounced back,

779
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: Tell me what have tell I had the team changed

780
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: when nob y'all had those guys. So, I mean it

781
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: was from jump, you know it was. It was a

782
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: chemish from Jump. I think those guys came in. We

783
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: all came in about maybe three weeks earlier than camp

784
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: and started a hoop and from the first game him

785
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 1: to pick up. The biggest difference I noticed was was

786
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 1: KG yelling you know you I'm up top on the ball,

787
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,919
Speaker 1: He's yelling screen screen screen. I'm like, damn, this ain't

788
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: even nowhere near me yet. So I was like it

789
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: was a different It was this easy playing with him,

790
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like he he told you

791
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 1: what to be, what was happening behind you, and if

792
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 1: you got a guy behind you just to be able

793
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: to check your eye, he was able to, you know,

794
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: quarterback and do that and that. From that moment on,

795
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 1: I knew like this ship was on, you know what

796
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: I mean. He was having a guy that can quarterback

797
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 1: behind me versus me and not being always on the

798
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: back line. Having to say ship like I had a

799
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: big fellow that knew the game as well, so I

800
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: have him behind me being able to quarterback. And then,

801
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: like I said, it goes along with our work ethic.

802
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: You know, we went to Rome right away. That helped

803
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: from jump. You know, we got our chemistry from from

804
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: day one, going on a trip overseas where ship you

805
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: don't have anybody to talk to about yourself. Everybody speaking

806
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 1: for an language, We got them too. There were able

807
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: to lock in and just just understand what we're trying

808
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: to accomplish that year and the mentality and their mindset

809
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 1: from me being able to free us that being around

810
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: the great leadership. And when they brought in Sampa Sale.

811
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: One of my my closest coaching staff bladders was Armine here.

812
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: You know he's still with our Hey, Hey, did he

813
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 1: used to motherfucker take it? Did he used to take

814
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: his shoes off of everything and sit on them hot packs? Uh? No,

815
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: that was my bad. That was oh dude from the

816
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: Lakers with Phield Jackson. My bad our mom. But our

817
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 1: mom was cool, cool, real cool dude. Hey, you know KG.

818
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: KG said the same thing when he was on the show.

819
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: He was like, from that first practice, how we competed,

820
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: how he felt like everybody was on the same page

821
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: and came into work. He said the exact thing. Broad

822
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: from that first practice. He knew that y'all had some

823
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: special Now we used to dog it. We used to

824
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: have called junior runs. That's when we played one on

825
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: one and you couldn't call a foul, you know what

826
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: I mean. Like it was like we weren't going crazy.

827
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: Ain't know the soft ass foul they was playing. Like

828
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: I said, bigs are lined up on one end and

829
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: the guards line on another, and we would go at

830
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: it and we're playing ones before the games. So getting

831
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: it in. What's speaking? He speaking to KG you know,

832
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: obviously to land him was huge. He was talking about

833
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: other teams and impossible situations where he went. But when

834
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: we interviewed him on the show, and I quote he said,

835
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: you gotta keep the little African kid, yo. If I

836
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: come to Boston, you gotta keep the African story. He

837
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: keeps saying that, Hey, but he said, I mean it.

838
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: But but but to hear that, it is what it is.

839
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: But to those someone of Kevin Garnetts caliber knew that

840
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: you were a young and up and coming main piece

841
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: for that team. How did that make you feel? I'm

842
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: sure they had to give you a lot of confidence.

843
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: Definitely a lot, you know, Like I said, it was

844
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: so crazy that I was sitting at the cree of

845
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: my mom's house in Kentucky when the trades were happening.

846
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: I think it was before the draft, And like I said,

847
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:50,919
Speaker 1: my name was on the board the first two days,

848
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: along as you know, six other guys. I'm like, damn,

849
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: we're gonna I'm going to Minnesota. I'm like, fun, I'm

850
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: like I said, I asked to get out here cause

851
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: I was trying it out here my rookie year. Games

852
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: wouldn't blame me. I was trying to get a batter,

853
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, cool trade having I trade.

854
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: It happens to happen. Two days past, Danny called me like,

855
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: you ain't going nowhere, So I said, cool, I lock

856
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: back in with Boston and I, you know, not knowing that,

857
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: kJ was like, no, get him out of there, keep

858
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: him here, you know what I mean? So that that

859
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: changed my career path right there? What that's what? What? What?

860
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 1: What is your heritage? What does the name region Rondo

861
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: come from? Raj and my mama just made it up,

862
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Just a unique name that

863
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: I appreciate you this day. So it ain't thathning. I

864
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: think my other name, my ucle name is Roderick, and

865
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: I think she started as was made, uh talk to

866
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: us a little bit. Uh, you guys had a run.

867
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: You guys won a championship obviously the first taste of

868
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 1: the Lakers selfish rivalry. Uh, you guys got a chance

869
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: to play play against each other a few times. What

870
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: was it like to be a twenty one year old

871
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 1: point guard in the midst of the most historical I

872
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: ad in the game. I was just locked into the moment,

873
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: you know, it was it was a real moment to

874
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: understand the history because the Celtics hadn't one, you know,

875
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: so I was born I think it was twenty years

876
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: you know, prior to it. So I was getting there

877
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: or being back into the championship. So I had to

878
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: watch a lot of tape and just understand, like, you know,

879
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: all the greatness that I've I'm pretty much a part

880
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: of now and understanding how big the rivalry was. And

881
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: it didn't realize until you know, the NBA Finals of

882
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 1: the media hit, you know, once the media was there,

883
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 1: it was it was like, damn, this is this is

884
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: the real deal. And all the attention and uh reporters

885
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: from different countries, you know, at the event, it was

886
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: like this is, uh, this is bigger than I imagine.

887
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 1: So it was dope at twenty one just to be

888
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: able to go through that and then being from you know,

889
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: playing for Boston. You know, I still say, the best

890
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: fans and you know, one of the best fans that

891
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: I've ever played played for those Arenas, so they know

892
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: the game, they're they're amazing fans. And uh, it was

893
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: just like I said, great being in the town at

894
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: the entitled town m You and Jack both won the

895
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: Young Ages. You guys both had big close out Game six.

896
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: What was your experience like closing someone out on the

897
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: biggest stage Rondo? And then I want to compare to

898
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: you know, I want Jack to talk about his experience

899
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: as well, because for young players, a lot of mother's

900
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: ain't got them kind of balls. Yeah, I mean I

901
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: was just thinking dominated. Like I said, Danny came to

902
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: me before a game six and I was like, I

903
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: don't know what you do. He was like, get him up.

904
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: I said, well, get him upright? Cool? So I just

905
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: kind of went the mentality like I said, and the

906
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: shot and shot and shot the ball. And I knew

907
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: that aggressive play well. I intended to hope that that

908
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 1: aggressive player would would propel us to get a victor again,

909
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: like I said, would be the shot out of here.

910
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: So it was it was all around team. I think

911
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: for me and it was similar you know, Toronto. I'm

912
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 1: pretty sure, but just having Tim doncan have the comfidence

913
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: in me, I think for me not playing to me

914
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 1: starting to me getting all those shots and making big shots.

915
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: It all started and had something to do with him.

916
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: And when you got the best player believing, then you

917
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 1: you got the best player of telling the coach that

918
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 1: you need to start. You got the best player coming

919
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: you were believing you to throw you the pass at

920
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: the end of the game. That boost is your confidence.

921
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: So for me having Tim to have my back and

922
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: let me know that I belong in this game, that

923
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: I belong on this team, that I'm a big part

924
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: of this team, That's what helped me as a young guy.

925
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: So when anytime you have a young guy that you

926
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: know that they're gonna be a big part of your team,

927
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: it's imperative that the star players give them that confidence.

928
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: M HM. Talk about it. What was the process of

929
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 1: growing because you had to grow fast and learn fast,

930
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: and and when would you say like you were kind

931
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: of handed the keys to the car, you know, along

932
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: with it with three Hall of famers that are rolling

933
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: with you handed the keys. I think I kind of

934
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: gained him throughout the playoffs that that first year of

935
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: playoffs run we had you know, we we had a

936
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,959
Speaker 1: tough battle against the Hawks. You know, we went seven.

937
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: We went seven and seven and six six. I think

938
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: I think at the time it was the most you

939
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: know games played the win the championships like twin six games,

940
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: so you know we were about to tested, you know, ship.

941
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: I pretty much played every game seven, you know what

942
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I had any packing those games seven.

943
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 1: I think it is group, you know, going into the

944
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: playoffs that year, Um, you know, every everybody on this

945
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 1: in that role, and I wanted to be the best

946
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: roleplayer possible and make my guy's job easy. You know.

947
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,439
Speaker 1: That was just my masset one to the game. Whatever

948
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: I can do to make y'all, make y'all ship easy.

949
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: You know, if you're shooting PT two, I want to

950
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: get it to fifty five, you know what I mean,

951
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: Just little things like that, as far as just having

952
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: him to understand that they know I want the best

953
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: for them, so that it wasn't a problem. Um that

954
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: gave me the keys, Doc gave me the keys, and

955
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: it was it was through time, through film, through working

956
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: through a lot of criticism. Like I said, even we

957
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 1: wanted me and Doc still was but in his I mean,

958
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: but Doc right bumped his first four or five years,

959
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 1: you know. I mean it was just um point guard

960
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: point guard understanding game from what I saw, what he saw.

961
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: So it wasn't um nothing that it was something if

962
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 1: I coach, I look forward to doing as well, you know,

963
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: just teaching the game, understanding the game with what my

964
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: point guard sees or the guy I'm helping, or even

965
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: trade this year, you know what I mean. I love it.

966
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna enjoy picking his brain understand like what he

967
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: sees and how I can help you get him, you know,

968
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 1: whatever level he's trying to get to it, which is

969
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: probably the best. So I look forward to that. So

970
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: just having those vests, Man, it was big in the

971
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 1: locker room for me coming off that. You guys had

972
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: a big two thousand ten run uh knock and weight

973
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: off braun our Lando team um to get to a

974
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 1: reach match with the Lakers. Um Na, remember, so we

975
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: had we Man, who was I talking to about this

976
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: was events. I was pissed because we had beat you

977
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,919
Speaker 1: all three one that season and we got going into

978
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference finals. The standing got scared, like, yo,

979
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: this is a veteran team. We gotta change up this, this,

980
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: and that switched the whole game plan. Man. See, y'all

981
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,959
Speaker 1: was up three, remember you guys were up three, three nothing,

982
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: and then we won two in a row, and then

983
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: y'all beat us in game six. Bullshit, So we thought

984
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: we were Yeah, we thought we was going to the

985
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: finals that year, but anyway, you guys whipped our ass

986
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: um And we talked to Paul Pierce obviously, uh last

987
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,479
Speaker 1: year on the show, and he said that game seven

988
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 1: lost in two thousands ten, he still hasn't been able

989
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: to watch. How tough was that after tasting it the

990
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,919
Speaker 1: year before getting back and then not getting a chance

991
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: to to taste it again. It was, It was difficult.

992
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: It was so you know, some of the players in

993
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 1: my mind as far as whenever I watched the finers

994
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 1: and you're understanding, like ship, we were up three to you,

995
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: I mean with two games ago, like we didn't get

996
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: the job done. So you know, I don't try to

997
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: live in the past too much, but understanding what I

998
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: had and how precious it is to get to the

999
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: finals and not taking that for grant because you know,

1000
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: you can eat if you get there, you still can

1001
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: be up in a series and losing motherfucker. So it

1002
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 1: was like that was just my mentality coming into this year, understanding,

1003
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: like ship, we get these boys life. You know, when

1004
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: when he won the first game, so I understand, like

1005
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: I've been up in the finals and it ain't you know,

1006
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: coming back and losing it, bitch, ain't what you want

1007
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: to be and you want to live with. So um,

1008
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: you know, I think maybe you know that helped me,

1009
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 1: you know, you know, inspire guys or to bring a

1010
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: little bit more this year in the finals. But nevertheless,

1011
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: it's still something you mind. You know, I've been on

1012
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: the finals three times one when too. It's not a

1013
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,959
Speaker 1: bad but understanding we were we're geting going into the fourth,

1014
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: that's the crazy part. We're going to the fourth and uh,

1015
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: you know, still took their but like I said, key

1016
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 1: role player has made plays. They stepped up and win

1017
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: the championship. It's gonna take everybody. You've mentioned Doc a

1018
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: couple of times interview. How instrumental or or how much

1019
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: did you learn from him in your early years to

1020
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,919
Speaker 1: kind of shape who you are um as a floor

1021
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: general and as a man man. He was big in

1022
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: my life own and off the court. Um, whatever I

1023
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 1: had problems, any think I was going through whatever we

1024
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: were going through the court, you know, and never waver

1025
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 1: how you know, our relationship was off the court, so uh,

1026
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: you know, he was definitely big as you being a

1027
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: black male mentor in my life at twenty years old

1028
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,280
Speaker 1: coming to the game understanding you know what I needed

1029
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 1: to be become a great young point guard. That he

1030
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: you know it was or how he played back in

1031
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: the day, as far as you know, how he's ever

1032
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: to impact the game. So I was. I was fortunately,

1033
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: I was lucky man. Like I said, I always say,

1034
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: you know, you know, as good as your coach pleasing

1035
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: you in certain sports and pretty much every sport. And

1036
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: he gave me the keys. Like I said, we be

1037
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: bump heads, you know, a couple of years in the row,

1038
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: but it was still for as far as a mentality

1039
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: of him want the best for me. And I'm appreciative

1040
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: to understand that I got fortunate to play for a

1041
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: coach like Doc. I could have been with ten other

1042
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: coaches and should I could have been out of the league.

1043
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: And if I got a rid car a lot last

1044
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean first, and who know who knows?

1045
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:19,439
Speaker 1: So ah, I'm just appreciative the idea to play for doctor.

1046
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: What was it like being after leaving the Celtics, like

1047
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 1: before becoming the Laker your career after leaving Boston, Like

1048
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: once you become a Boston Celtic and you win champions there,

1049
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 1: you become a legend in Boston and you kind of

1050
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 1: become a state in that community. Some players don't want

1051
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 1: to leave. Paul was able to stay, and I thought

1052
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: you was one of those guys that would finish their

1053
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: career in Boston, one of those Boston Celtist Hall of Famous.

1054
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 1: What was life like after leaving you know, the Celtics

1055
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 1: before getting to the Lakers. To be honest, you was

1056
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,919
Speaker 1: so crazy you said that. I was just talking about

1057
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: that like three days though, maybe two. Um. Uh. It's

1058
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: certain ways to look at it, you know what I mean.

1059
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,439
Speaker 1: Like I look at you know, guys like a Dirk

1060
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: you know, who lived in Dallas his whole life. You know, uh,

1061
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 1: you know other players who played their career at one place.

1062
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: It's like when I was younger, when I was playing

1063
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,959
Speaker 1: the game and I was living in Boston, I felt

1064
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: that way, I was like, Okay, it could be you

1065
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: know some ship. Tim Duncan did players like that. But

1066
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: but the end of the day, like I said, once

1067
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: I was, I was traded being able to live in

1068
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 1: different cities, man like my parents joined. What that life

1069
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 1: experience like? Now I figured out where I want to live.

1070
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: I played in the best cities in the world and

1071
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: got paid to do it. So it's like ship I'm in.

1072
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,720
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying life. I'm glad I didn't stick in Boston.

1073
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: You know, my entire career. You know, when I lived

1074
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: there of eight and a half years, I got experience

1075
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: that now I get experienced live with a Docramento amazing

1076
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 1: time and stack. I asked why I should going on

1077
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: to my basement downstairs the stack, which you know, I

1078
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: mean I had interest. I mean it was a dope experience,

1079
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: I said, So, I said that perspective of living in Chicago,

1080
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: you know, I lived downtown and the Triangle, like you know,

1081
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: that type of lifestyle kind of living there that was

1082
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: that was fun. Uh. You know, citing New Orleans is different.

1083
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: Like I drove an hour every day to practice in

1084
00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: New Orleans, you know what I mean, Just because I'm

1085
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: really particular about where I live in my home like

1086
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: that asked to be in my happy place, in my

1087
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: leave the reno or practice for every place me be.

1088
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: Like I told you, I'm my home body. So my

1089
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: career got to be you know what I mean, like

1090
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,760
Speaker 1: a lovely place and enjoyable, great vibes, the type of field.

1091
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 1: So I love it, you know what I mean. Being

1092
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: able to experienced the different different cities and different climates,

1093
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: enjoy life. So I don't look back at it, want

1094
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: to regret it. Uh, you know, she could have went differently,

1095
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: But it's all about perspective for me. And like I said,

1096
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out where I want to live

1097
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: the rest of my life. But differing this type of

1098
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: lifestyle and understanding like I said, I've got to experience

1099
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 1: so many different cities. My mind is thinking differently. Now,

1100
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: how was it plan with Boogie and A d Who

1101
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: to my favorite show? That's what I wanted, favorites, two

1102
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: of my favorites shows. Y'all seen you fill my career. Now,

1103
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: I've been trying to play with him to the last

1104
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: four or five years. They wanted wanted to the best

1105
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: to do in the game, and I called him Tim

1106
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 1: Duncan and David Robinson on steroids. That's what I called

1107
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: him to, especially when they was in them. Listen, when

1108
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 1: I got with them in New Orleans, I thought I

1109
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: had it figured out a blue prints, except we're gonna

1110
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: shot the world with that group because we had a

1111
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: big three. And what was so dope about that is

1112
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: at first, uh you know because and eight you know,

1113
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: they they both would go get trying to go get fifty,

1114
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: and uh, I'm like, cause, nigga, you can you can

1115
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: damn rab a triple double with this lineup. I mean,

1116
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 1: like get the fifty, you get fifteen, fifteen and twenty,

1117
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like kill it that way.

1118
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: And then you got you got Drew in the Pico

1119
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: roll that you can't funk with, you know what I mean.

1120
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: So it's like, Nick, we got a baby, big a monster,

1121
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: big three over here. The niggas ain't they sleeping on

1122
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 1: like I said, but I was, we would have to

1123
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: give Golden State in the playoffs with because eight Andrew,

1124
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: come on, man, they gonna mess up with that because

1125
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 1: because you gotta put Draymond on cuse you know what

1126
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: he trying to do. But he bullied basketball, so we

1127
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: can get in they can fast over real. Then I said,

1128
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 1: who gonna who gonna check a D? I was missing,

1129
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: y'all was missing Matt Barnes and Ron test and Stephen Jackson.

1130
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: You was missing that three guard that could defend the shoot.

1131
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: Y'all had everything else, you Drew boe a D. Y'all

1132
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: just needed that three guards. I wouldn't even I wouldn't

1133
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: even talk, abouldn't. I didn't even need to be on

1134
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: the court. Them three on the court, stop stopping you

1135
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 1: put them in the sea. Actually because the elbow with

1136
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: the ball. Now he's making the play, Drew pinning down

1137
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: for eight d Like what you're gonna switch? Like you

1138
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: can't stop everything? How tough? Know when you know obviously

1139
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: Kentucky ties, but then just being a good dude, you

1140
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 1: got a chance to play with him in sacrament I

1141
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: think Cousins so much understood how tough is it for

1142
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 1: you as a as a brother seeing him go down

1143
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: when he finally got into position. He was up for

1144
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: two hundred plus million that year, and y'all had a

1145
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: hell of a team. What was that like to you

1146
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 1: as a brother just seeing him have to go through

1147
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: all that ship. It was. It was sickening, and the

1148
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 1: disrespect on his name and man, you know, even to

1149
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: this day then I was like, y'all, this nigga the

1150
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: best thing, y'all. I don't know if you nigga seeing

1151
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: like when he gets the ball, like what you're scared of.

1152
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 1: But he's a great deal. Yeah, you know what I mean.

1153
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: Like if you know some people are I like that,

1154
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: if you smell blood, he gonna eat. But you know,

1155
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: if you stand up for yourself or you speak up,

1156
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: he he's gonna he gonna respect that. You know what

1157
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 1: I mean. Understand that, Okay, cool, I understand where you're

1158
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: But if not, you know, people you know are intimidated

1159
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: by his dominant presence and its demeaning. But like I said,

1160
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: you get to know the man. He's one of my

1161
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: favorite teammates of all time. I love playing with him

1162
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 1: and I think he's one of the best to ever

1163
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: do it. Y'all. I hated that he went down pack

1164
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: the back injuries like that, and like I said, just

1165
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: even like I said, those two with them too, they

1166
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: could change the game back to where and he was

1167
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: looking for big mens because you can stretch, we can

1168
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: stretch the floor. He won't, but ship that the games

1169
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: wanted to paint. I mean that month, you can't stop him.

1170
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,399
Speaker 1: He's gonna demand. I'm saying it's now double. I'm saying

1171
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: it's now boogie cogs boogiecause it's come back player of

1172
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: the year. Watch. But if he if he's healthy, if

1173
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: he's healthy, he's gonna suck it up down. I already

1174
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: know that one that anybody here going to demand a

1175
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 1: double for show. So I'm glad. Yeah, I mean, I say,

1176
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, you could, we could go

1177
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: back and forth. But as far as skilled centers, he's

1178
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: probably the most skilled big man we've ever seen from

1179
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: There was not a hole in this game from the

1180
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: block to the three point line. There wasn't you know

1181
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: everything you never I love about that motherfucker boy is

1182
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: when we play sacking Mino, when I was a stacked

1183
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: with him, you know before every game was a big man.

1184
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: If we got to play against he b like, Nick,

1185
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: I'm about to fund this nigg up, I'd be like, oh,

1186
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 1: I can't wait to get the ball, big felling. I

1187
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,919
Speaker 1: love it off Like he won't. He was like, I'm ready,

1188
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: Biggs ain't talking about that was cool. I ain't say

1189
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: the name, but he was sucking a all up you

1190
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 1: when they know that the niggas niggas getting niggas getting

1191
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: thrown out the game because they won't play against this nigga. Man,

1192
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: he was an animal like watching listen watching film back

1193
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,280
Speaker 1: when I said, I told you like I watched myself

1194
00:52:58,360 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 1: then I usually watch cousin. When I was in sack

1195
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 1: Man and Ship. He used to do like on film

1196
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,240
Speaker 1: that you didn't even see. Unreal he was. He reminded

1197
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: me a lot of a little bit of kg. You know.

1198
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: I mean like he might mean boom one of these

1199
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: you know the rebound. Ain't saying that like he just

1200
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: he was a bullyou he could he could talk about

1201
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 1: he can back it up with his game. He go

1202
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: get you fifty and twenty like easy. That's what I'm saying. Easy.

1203
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: And but like you said, don't sleep on how good

1204
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: he could pass the motherfucking ball like man, he could

1205
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: really average a triple double. That's how good he is.

1206
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 1: He gonna demanded double. He can throw one hand, wrap

1207
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: around any past your name, and he can bring the

1208
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: bitch off off the off the glass. He's like all right,

1209
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: but I said, I actually have to let him bring

1210
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: it up the court like he was too good not

1211
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 1: to me trying to like, okay, let me look at

1212
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: the bar, and so he got it. I gotta get

1213
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: out the way, I gotta run the flow. Let me

1214
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: try to step up or something, let me get involved.

1215
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: But he was he can play, yo. He has some moves. Yeah, man,

1216
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: I hope you know, all for all of it, you know,

1217
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 1: for his sake, but definitely coming from all of us. Man,

1218
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: I hope he has a healthy else back a year

1219
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: because he was. It was sad the way the game

1220
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 1: was taken from him at at the point of career

1221
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: where he was at, you know what I mean. He

1222
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 1: was still young. Like I said, he was on the

1223
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: brink of two million. Never get the two hundred million back.

1224
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: But I think at the end of the day, he

1225
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: just wants to play. He just wants to be healthy

1226
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 1: and have a chance, and hopefully he'll have that in Houston. Man.

1227
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: So if you see this, you big ugly motherfucker, good luck.

1228
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: That's my boy. I love Buggy. I had a chance

1229
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: to play with him a Sacramento man, and it was

1230
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: almost like I was a cousin whisper like they would

1231
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 1: come to me because Rondo knows you don't really you

1232
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 1: don't really funk with respect too many people. But when

1233
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:36,879
Speaker 1: he respects you, he'll listen to you. So I'm sure.

1234
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 1: I'm sure Rondo had his ear, but I had his

1235
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: ear too. So it was me kind of like because Jack,

1236
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 1: you know me, and you like for me to have

1237
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 1: to try to calm down you were you to try

1238
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: to calm down me just seeing his young fire was

1239
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: like us in in in in Golden States. So me

1240
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: just trying to, you know, maneuver him through the technical

1241
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 1: fouls and you don't need all this and let me

1242
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: handle this and let me get in trouble for you,

1243
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: like let me. But he was figuring it out, man,

1244
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,919
Speaker 1: And I really think, you know, it's sad how quick

1245
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: people forget. But then, like you said, the disrespect put

1246
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 1: on his name because he was the code is big

1247
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: in the game when he was healthy, no question ending

1248
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: up in Los Angeles, What was that process like for you?

1249
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,320
Speaker 1: And from your early days did you ever think you

1250
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: would be a Laker. I didn't think I'd be a leker,

1251
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 1: But at the time y'all had two teams called so ship.

1252
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: I mean I know that, you know it was my time.

1253
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: Who was different? Who was on the table? I think

1254
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 1: it might have been New Orleans at the time. You

1255
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: want me the money, leve, try and get me out

1256
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 1: of here. What you want me to do? Yeah, I'm

1257
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 1: trying to figure it out. That's how I go. That's

1258
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: just how I go. Right, quick, turnaround. You're going into

1259
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: your fifteenth year. Where where's your body at? Where's your

1260
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 1: mind at? You guys literally just finished what two and

1261
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: a half months of on you gotta start soon? Um,

1262
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: where's your mind that? Mentally and physically? Man, I feel great.

1263
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,399
Speaker 1: I'm locked in. I said, I'm down a and I'm

1264
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: on it. Like I said, I got the game planning

1265
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: to watching a little bit of tape as far as

1266
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 1: Offensive says they want to run this year, So I

1267
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: gotta figure out quickly. I mean, how to MANI theate

1268
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 1: the game and who to put people in certain spots.

1269
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 1: So I'm enjoying the process so far. It's different, Yo,

1270
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 1: the game is different now like this league. Ship, How

1271
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: we got this COVID testing and we got the schedule

1272
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: so crazy that we can't even interact with our teammates

1273
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: for the most part, Uh in the locker room. You know,

1274
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: it's like we're in groups of four right now, and

1275
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: you know you've got to train and table, you've got

1276
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 1: weight room, court, get your ass out, m straight like that.

1277
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 1: I mean, no, ain't no sitting around rock room talking

1278
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: to the guys getting no one. They're trying to get

1279
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: you out of here. And we're in the locker room

1280
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 1: with masks on. Yeah you know, I mean talking. So

1281
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 1: it's just it's a little bit different. Um, you know,

1282
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 1: still trying to know how to you know, get the

1283
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 1: chemistry and the comarader with guys. We're taking foe buses

1284
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: this year, you know what I mean. It's like only

1285
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: thirtain amounting for that ast of time. So it's like

1286
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: it's now we all have to adjust and adapt to it,

1287
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 1: which would be fine, but um, you know, it's it's different,

1288
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 1: and I'm just trying to like just just adapt and

1289
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 1: enjoy the process getting settled. I learned the system, but

1290
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: you know, it is what it is. Like I said,

1291
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: I feel great and we'll see them satisfying. We've been

1292
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: doing a couple of four court drills, you know, here

1293
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: and back and forething and what I pried myself on.

1294
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: That is like I never get a drink. It's just

1295
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: feeling to see a couple of young guys over there,

1296
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: you know, I mean gas and for air, a little

1297
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: bit can get water. Ship. I'm like, okay, I might.

1298
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: I'm thirty four. If the drug test it was like

1299
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 1: it was now, man, we could have played all year round, easy,

1300
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: easy around. You don't need to break. As long as

1301
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: I can burn it down. I'm ready all year round.

1302
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 1: My let's go. I mean, I mean I did. I

1303
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: did like I burned it down my whole entire career.

1304
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: But it's funny because I took pride in being the

1305
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 1: one most of the most in shape people. If you

1306
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 1: look back when I played like I was always top

1307
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: ten in miles during the season because my game was

1308
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 1: running and I love to run. But I knew I

1309
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 1: had to bust my ass in the summertime because I

1310
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: was gonna smoke that much weed to get me through

1311
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 1: the season. And I need because to me, it wasn't

1312
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: really the alcohol, it wasn't the peels, but my stomach up.

1313
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 1: So I knew I had to go a bug and

1314
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 1: beyond my cardio so I could burn my tree during

1315
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: the season straight up, what were those experiences? Like, I've

1316
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 1: removed myself obviously retired from basketball. I don't miss playing

1317
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: at all, not one bit. But you touched on something,

1318
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 1: kicking it in the locker room most of the time

1319
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: after practice with some of the funnest times in my life,

1320
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 1: just sit there, talk shit ice. Sometimes you stay in

1321
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 1: that bit for two hours, just talking with someone and laughing,

1322
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: laughing the whole time. That's like, no bullshit. That's one

1323
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: of the things I miss is just that locker room time.

1324
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: And like you said, well COVID, obviously it's not the

1325
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 1: same feeling, but touch on how just fund them locker

1326
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: room times were with you? You could just had a

1327
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: hell of a practice or a tough ass game. Sometimes

1328
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: you said, I can't remember enough that that's the best

1329
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: time y'all. Even like I said, me playing with so

1330
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 1: many different teams, all all the guys in the chemistry,

1331
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 1: that the fun times we're in the locker room, you know,

1332
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 1: whether before the games or after practice, it was. It

1333
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: was a lot of crazy things. And uh, that's a

1334
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 1: funny story when that comes a man. When you said that,

1335
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 1: So there's so many there's so many stories that all

1336
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: the funniest stories come from the motherfucker locker room. Trust me, listen.

1337
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: We and the Motherfucker we were in New Orleans a

1338
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 1: couple of years back and we got some gamblers on

1339
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 1: the team. We were gambling or whatever throughout team. What

1340
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 1: what team were you on? I'm in New Orleans with

1341
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 1: the I'm with the Palestor note so we're actually in

1342
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 1: like so what happened was we had a delay. The

1343
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 1: raining had a leakage in it. So we're sitting there

1344
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 1: on you from the locker room and it is a delay.

1345
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 1: So I'm like, ship, let's get it in like Nigga's

1346
00:59:55,440 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 1: oh money whatever. So right, but they got sitting in

1347
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: the locker room like we gotta wait the hour and

1348
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: had to play the game. I'm like, man, play the

1349
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: game for you wanted to sit that We first of

1350
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 1: all warmed up, they stopped. They stopped it so we

1351
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 1: couldn't go out. I'm like, you want to sit in

1352
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 1: the locker room for an hour and a half and

1353
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 1: then go play a motherfucking game. I'm like, yeah, okay, cool, whatever.

1354
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 1: So we're sitting there for without chilling anybody doing that,

1355
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: Okay cool. I'm like, sucking man, bring the cars out.

1356
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 1: We end up getting the cars out gambling right there

1357
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 1: before the game. Man. We didn't play the game, but

1358
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 1: it was like this we got inn we paid out

1359
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 1: the cards. Like I said, this team ship. We was

1360
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 1: vibe and put the music on whatever our gymer managed

1361
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: came in there and he was like, y'all playing. Were like, no,

1362
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 1: we ain't playing, but you're trying to None of that

1363
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 1: slaves right now. We ain't gonna just sitting at ourselves up.

1364
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 1: We just said for two hour cold out and let

1365
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 1: me go and played for sprint. Now it's over. So

1366
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,919
Speaker 1: we end up gambling getting it in. It was funny,

1367
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: like I said, it was a good time. We laughed

1368
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 1: about it to this day and uh, you know, that

1369
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: was one of my funny locker times. I can imagine, Bro,

1370
01:00:55,720 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 1: I can imagine you t a big baby. Kg Perk

1371
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: and Paul are on the same locker room. Dog. That's

1372
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 1: kind of classic. That's kind of that's got into a

1373
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 1: bad locker room one day. I have to practice too, though,

1374
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 1: like buckets of water, throwing each other, like tacking the

1375
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 1: We got some crazy movements doing the locker room. So

1376
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 1: that's where it all go down. That's where closer though.

1377
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 1: That made you all closer though, all that ship battle

1378
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 1: testing all right, man, were down the quick hitters. Just

1379
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: first thing that comes to mind when they asked these questions,

1380
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: who's one player you haven't played with that you wish

1381
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 1: you could have got a choir? Would like to get

1382
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: a chance to play with Katie? Oh, motherfucker's are in

1383
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 1: trouble this year? Man, I didn't see film on Katie

1384
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 1: in the summertime because he was playing in my homeboy.

1385
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: Rico Haynes runs KD is back. Yeah, you're proudly easy

1386
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 1: easy and he's doing it. He can do it on

1387
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 1: both and so Ship, Yes, yes, sir, you and four

1388
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 1: other players to go to the black Top and run

1389
01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: the court all day. Who you go? Who you for? Players?

1390
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 1: You pick the outdoors because because Aby Bradley of course,

1391
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 1: Uh the Mosquito. I'm gonna go with Drew. Lord, they're

1392
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 1: not scoring on y'all for show them too, motherfucker's who

1393
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 1: who my forward? I'm out this fuck with KG Ship

1394
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah, that's Y're definitely gonna win all day.

1395
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 1: So you Bradley, uh, KG, Drew and Boogie and y'all go. Yeah,

1396
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 1: y'all gonna win one way or another. You most like

1397
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 1: you on, but y'all go have a great chance in

1398
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 1: winning in the scrap too, if you come down to it.

1399
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 1: Yeah sir, Yeah sir. Right now for you top five

1400
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 1: artists or who are you listening to the most little baby?

1401
01:02:55,960 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 1: Little Baby J? Cole Drake in one. Yeah, this kind

1402
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 1: of lead this kind of leads me into my next question.

1403
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 1: You've been named dropped by several artists, Wayne J. Cole, Pusher, Uh,

1404
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 1: Tiger Trey, to name a few. What's been your favorite

1405
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 1: name dropped us far on? Maybe maybe Jeez, he had one.

1406
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 1: I know he had one. There's a couple of them

1407
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 1: that I like, like that's uh, you know they're old

1408
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 1: now and the old ship now they still don't though, Well,

1409
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 1: what was it like here? Like you mean, you're a

1410
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 1: kid from Louisville, Kentucky, Like, what was it like hearing

1411
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 1: dude you look up to in a whole another space talk,

1412
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 1: you know, talk to you about you? But Matt, one

1413
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: of the famous lines all all rappers say, I keep

1414
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 1: a nine on me, like Rondo, that's what's favorite line?

1415
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 1: Stay fat that green on me? Like yeah, okay, right whatever,

1416
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 1: So it's Uh, it's unreal, yo, It's it's so it's

1417
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 1: so much. It's dope. How much love like it? Especially

1418
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 1: in our community. You know what I mean when I'm

1419
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 1: out in the clubs where if I go like Nigga's

1420
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 1: love me and it's like you may be respected and

1421
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 1: loved by your peers like that. Uh you know, being

1422
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 1: when I'm fromt Like I said, it's this dope feeling

1423
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 1: and being able to be mentioned in so many rap songs.

1424
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 1: Uh you know now I'm like said, my kids get

1425
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 1: a kick out of it, and uh, you know it's dope.

1426
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 1: It's dope, dope to have that, you know, they experienced

1427
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 1: to be a part of something as far as a

1428
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 1: rap history favorite point guard battle De Rose d Rose

1429
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 1: the God two point Guards, his rookie year, is that

1430
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 1: Nigga's seven games problem? Can you can you? Can you

1431
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 1: compare a prime time De Rose to anyone you've ever

1432
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 1: either either played against or seen? Can you compare them

1433
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 1: to anybody? No man, anybody. I was about to say,

1434
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 1: you candy him like seven games here when he was

1435
01:04:59,880 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 1: a you're putting your gass in trouble. You on your

1436
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 1: heels the whole game, The whole game English. You know,

1437
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 1: one person in front of him, you got a whole

1438
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: scouting port on him, for sure. That's how we packed

1439
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 1: the paint, packed the paint. And he's still getting there, everybody,

1440
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:16,439
Speaker 1: He's still gonna get in there. But then he could

1441
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 1: he could hit that little one dribble pull up to

1442
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 1: he's hitting that too. He's hitting threes when he's rolling

1443
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 1: like he wasn't. He was too exclosively and he was

1444
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 1: a shore one man fast break every uh five dinner

1445
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 1: guests dead are alive? Mm hmmm, big mhm jay z

1446
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 1: m hmm, oprah mm hmmm. H my mom, that's gonna

1447
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 1: be a dope one. That's gonna be a dope. You got,

1448
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 1: you got, you got, you got some warrior as in

1449
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 1: some entrepreneurs at the table, and and and two queens.

1450
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 1: You can't lose. Who do you want to see on

1451
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 1: All the Smoke? Whatever you're answers, you have to help

1452
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 1: us get this guests on. Josh mill Oh, that would

1453
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 1: be a good one, of course. Man. I think I've

1454
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 1: seen him, I've seen it, but I've seen him recently.

1455
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 1: I told him if I wanted to have him on

1456
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 1: the show, would be a good one. That'd be a

1457
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 1: good one. I like that Atlanta got to so you

1458
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 1: know here in Atlanta two app massive we can get it. Yeah. Hey,

1459
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 1: something that just came to my mind just while we

1460
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 1: were doing these quick hitters. And I wouldn't be me

1461
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 1: if I didn't ask it. What's the deal with you

1462
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 1: and CP three? Let's deal with us? Yeah? Like to me,

1463
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 1: like not, I don't know. You know, you played against

1464
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 1: you a long time. I'm getting to know you now,

1465
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 1: knowing CP CPS and a chuired taste. But I see

1466
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 1: very a lot of similarity as far as the way

1467
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 1: you guys managed the game and thinking our leaders. But

1468
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 1: you guys just butt heads and then sometimes that ship happens.

1469
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 1: They both they both too damn smart. That's what it is.

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Speaker 1: You think. You think you're smart, and I'm smart. I'm

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Speaker 1: the smartest point guard the game. No I am. But

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Speaker 1: now I'm gonna punch you in the face because I

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Speaker 1: think I'm smart. Hey, I ain't got no problem about it, man.

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Speaker 1: I'm just a lot to compete, you know. I mean

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Speaker 1: obviously he does as well, and he just go at it.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's nothing I don't like. I said me. Now,

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Speaker 1: I don't feel like it's personal. That situation happened. You know,

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Speaker 1: obviously he at the moment, but I just try to

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Speaker 1: you can go out him every time I can. That's

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Speaker 1: just any point gonna play against nothing, particle Like I'm

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Speaker 1: getting Elevator in the game for him and ship. I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to fuck everybody else. So it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: That's between the lines, that what goes on between the lines.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that was a throwback basketball to me. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know me and Jack, that's me and Jack Speed.

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Speaker 1: So when I seen I was like, Okay, I like this. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's he's clever, you know. I mean I watched him play.

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Speaker 1: Understand he's dirty too, now you know that's my boy,

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Speaker 1: but he wanted dirties. Motherfucker's in the game. I gotta

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Speaker 1: say that that is my boy. I fight for CP,

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Speaker 1: but he is one of the dirtiest players ever in

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Speaker 1: the NBA. Dog hands down, mm hmmmmmm CP three. Hey man,

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Speaker 1: Well that's a wrap. Thank you Reigion for your time. Man,

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Speaker 1: Congratulations on the win. I hope you enjoyed the off season,

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Speaker 1: and good luck in Atlanta. Jack Show, good job, and

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Speaker 1: you can catch this on Showtime Basketball. YouTube or the

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