Speaker 1: Welcome everybody. Thursday edition of the Clay Travis en Buck
Speaker 1: Sexton Show kicks off right now, and we have so
Speaker 1: much to discuss with you, as is always the case here,
Speaker 1: we've got the Trump trip to the Middle East. He
Speaker 1: spoke to US troops and cutter and talking about what
Speaker 1: we're doing for the military these days. More on the border,
Speaker 1: more on what's going on with the Trump administration's efforts
Speaker 1: to secure the border, and that includes interior enforcement of
Speaker 1: our laws. The left is still very upset about the
Speaker 1: South African refugees, which is not a surprise, but remember
Speaker 1: fifty of them. There's fifty. It's really just, if nothing else,
Speaker 1: they find it so outrageous and insulting. And it goes
Speaker 1: to some broader and very important arguments that everybody should
Speaker 1: be aware of, which is that Democrats have been trained
Speaker 1: to believe that you cannot be why and be oppressed anywhere.
Speaker 1: That's a remarkable position, but that really is in fact
Speaker 1: their position. White people are not oppressed anywhere in the world,
Speaker 1: that is not a possibility. They generally believe that about
Speaker 1: Christians too, you know, even in places like Pakistan or
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Christians can't be oppressed, Saudi Arabia Christians
Speaker 1: are depressed. You know, it's all fine. So we'll discuss
Speaker 1: some of those details with you know, I find that
Speaker 1: to be a very important, important case study. And we've
Speaker 1: also got I listened all morning, Clay, and it was
Speaker 1: very I was I was in charge of the baby
Speaker 1: for a while, so I was taking care of baby,
Speaker 1: listening Supreme Court arguments, trying to stay in the zone,
Speaker 1: you know, make sure baby's good, make sure I'm here
Speaker 1: in all the process and all the back and forth
Speaker 1: over the Supreme Court. And it's about the birthright Citizenship
Speaker 1: Executive Order. Clay, you and I actually talk about this
Speaker 1: a little bit. I'll tell you what I heard, what
Speaker 1: I picked up, and then you could tell me, you know,
Speaker 1: where you think this is all going and what's really
Speaker 1: happening here. It's a lot of process talk on a
Speaker 1: huge case that if it goes against the Trump administration eventually.
Speaker 1: Today was really just on the injunction what should happen Now,
Speaker 1: it's not a final or it's not a final decision
Speaker 1: by any means. They haven't even heard the merits of
Speaker 1: the case. But this case State of New Jersey coming
Speaker 1: forward to say, well, we are so harmed and this
Speaker 1: is so obviously outrageous that you have to do things
Speaker 1: right now to stop this before you even hear the
Speaker 1: merits and it gets to universal injunctions, a lot of
Speaker 1: legally stuff. We'll talk about it, but wow, the Biden
Speaker 1: decline cover up is something that people, I think are
Speaker 1: seeing now clear that we have more and more details
Speaker 1: about this that are coming out. It's even I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's worse than we thought, because we all
Speaker 1: knew and it was as bad as I think it
Speaker 1: could have been, but it was as bad as we
Speaker 1: thought it was going to be. And I also think
Speaker 1: that they're realizing that they're going to have to take
Speaker 1: their medicine on this. People are not buying the arguments
Speaker 1: on it. We've got a whole lot more information about
Speaker 1: like the incoherent mumblings of Biden, all of this kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. What do you make of this? Because it
Speaker 1: has really taken over the news cycle. Yes, so today's
Speaker 1: revelations are so so let me take a step back.
Speaker 1: It is Thursday, the book comes out on Tuesday. It
Speaker 1: seems to me quite clear that they have decided, Hey,
Speaker 1: we're going to have a new bad revelation every day
Speaker 1: between now and publication day, and I sort of think
Speaker 1: that there must be something truly explosive that they are
Speaker 1: holding for Monday or Tuesday that's even worse than what
Speaker 1: we've seen already. So just a refresher on what we've seen.
Speaker 1: George Clooney says that Biden didn't recognize him. They debated
Speaker 1: having to put him in a wheelchair. Today's revelations are
Speaker 1: many of Biden's top advisors he couldn't remember their names.
Speaker 1: This is pretty crazy stuff. I mean, even for us
Speaker 1: to I thought, hey, you know, Biden's pretty bad. I
Speaker 1: didn't think that he would be forgetting his top advisor's names.
Speaker 1: And this is where I think it's even getting worse
Speaker 1: than maybe anyone thought that it could be. Does that
Speaker 1: make sense? So much of what you how you react
Speaker 1: as expectations. If your kid, generally speaking, is a C
Speaker 1: student and he gets a D, you might be like, ah, man,
Speaker 1: what are you doing? You could do better than that.
Speaker 1: If you're a student gets a D, you're like, you're grounded.
Speaker 1: What are you doing in your life? Right? You react
Speaker 1: differently based on what you expect from people, And this
Speaker 1: is the story of to the New York Post. Biden
Speaker 1: couldn't recall his top aides names when they were in
Speaker 1: front of him. This is like, oh man, this is staggering.
Speaker 1: Including Donnellan, the guy who was his advisor since the
Speaker 1: nineteen eighties. He forgot his name in twenty nineteen during
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty presidential campaign. That's what's what's so important
Speaker 1: here is I assumed and clauses before you and I
Speaker 1: were teamed up on this show, I had said on
Speaker 1: my show during the Democrat primary many times on the air,
Speaker 1: it can't be Joe Biden. Guys, he has clear dementia. Yeah,
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, Okay, it was obvious to anybody who was
Speaker 1: paying attention that he had already declined substantially. What they're
Speaker 1: trying to pull now, I think they're only a hope
Speaker 1: of escaping with any integrity at all. This sort of
Speaker 1: journalistic blob in DC in particular is oh, the decline
Speaker 1: was so rapid, it happened so quickly. He was fine
Speaker 1: until the election year or thereabouts. But that's also not true.
Speaker 1: And we called him dementia Joe for four years. I
Speaker 1: used to sit here, and you know, in twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. I'd say, hey, Joe Biden should
Speaker 1: be out somewhere sitting on a park bench feeding the ducks,
Speaker 1: and yet he is commander in chief. We all knew,
Speaker 1: we all said it, and now what comes out is
Speaker 1: everything that we It's this is a little bit like
Speaker 1: COVID deja vu for those of us that are. Everything
Speaker 1: that we said, and every joke we made and every
Speaker 1: snarky comment we dropped out of frustration that there were
Speaker 1: so many lies is a one hundred percent accurate. It
Speaker 1: was the absolute truth. Here are a couple of details.
Speaker 1: Jake Sullivan was a long time Biden ade. Multiple times
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two in public, meaning a lot of
Speaker 1: people knew, Joe Biden called him Steve. He does kind
Speaker 1: of look like Steve, you know, and it is kind
Speaker 1: of funny and ridiculous, But this is the President of
Speaker 1: the United States. I'm not great with names. I screw
Speaker 1: up names all the time. I am not name guy.
Speaker 1: Some of you may be out there that I have
Speaker 1: screwed up. I'm not good with names. But if you
Speaker 1: don't know your top advisor's names, he called him Steve
Speaker 1: beckoned for him to come over and Jake Sullivan, who
Speaker 1: is out there publicly saying Biden as sharp as attack.
Speaker 1: By the way, someone's gonna show up with a video
Speaker 1: where Biden in the Oval is looking right at Jake Salivan.
Speaker 1: He's like, Suirley, I told you how to burn the
Speaker 1: toast again. He's just this is gonna get really bad.
Speaker 1: You imagine in that room he calls Steve, Steve, get
Speaker 1: over here, and everybody's like looking around because there is
Speaker 1: no Steve, and then he called him Steve again. He
Speaker 1: also called his top assistant and current spokeswoman Bettingfield, Press like,
Speaker 1: these are people that are close to Biden, okay, and
Speaker 1: this is where I come back. Sullivan, by the way,
Speaker 1: started to work for Biden in twenty thirteen, so he
Speaker 1: had been with him for a decade at that point.
Speaker 1: Kate Bettingfield started with the vice president in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1: So we're talking about decade long relationships of people in
Speaker 1: close proximity. D Uh. Of course these are the these
Speaker 1: are the top people in the White House. Clay. Can
Speaker 1: you imagine, you know, if Trump was in his first term,
Speaker 1: if he had if he had like looked at Ivanka
Speaker 1: and called her, you know, Cheryl or Susie or whatever. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it would have been It would have been a huge
Speaker 1: story and everybody would have been in, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: he's got the nuclear codes and what are we gonna do?
Speaker 1: And he's a commander in chief. These people all knew,
Speaker 1: they all knew what was going on, and they hid
Speaker 1: this even though we all knew what was going on.
Speaker 1: And what's a amazing is that you still had how many.
Speaker 2: Millions of people vote for Kabala and think that this
Speaker 2: was all fine and this was a better option than like,
Speaker 2: when you actually look at it, it is terrifying that
Speaker 2: so many Democrats were like, you know what, it's okay,
Speaker 2: they tried the dementia puppet thing.
Speaker 1: Let's go with Kamala now, like, well, this was this
Speaker 1: is the biggest Is it the biggest political I mean,
Speaker 1: I got a thing now, I'm like, hmm, there's some
Speaker 1: Trump stuff with the prosecutions. This is in some ways
Speaker 1: the most outrageous though, because it is such an insult
Speaker 1: to our intelligence. They were insulting the intelligence of the
Speaker 1: American people in a way that you never really seen before.
Speaker 1: The insult and that the insult now is the press
Speaker 1: trying to cover up and say, how could we have
Speaker 1: possibly known? And what the answer is? Somehow at least
Speaker 1: half of America watch these videos. But it wasn't just
Speaker 1: that they they knew that you were They knew, but
Speaker 1: so they lied intentionally and attacked people like you and me.
Speaker 1: I mean, their headlines still out there of us pointing
Speaker 1: out Biden's physical and mental frail and you had guys
Speaker 1: like Scarborough. I mean, sharp, You've known him for fifty
Speaker 1: years and this is the best version of Biden. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is like, this is where you realize you're a
Speaker 1: somewhat criminal. I think buck which I hadn't heard vero
Speaker 1: many people talk about. But if you allow someone to
Speaker 1: be in a position of power who has dementia, it
Speaker 1: is I think criminal negligence on the part of the
Speaker 1: advisors too have permitted this to occur. Well, what's the statue.
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got to tell me what crime. I
Speaker 1: agree with you, it's it's a betrayal of the country.
Speaker 1: It's reckless beyond words, but being dishonest morons. Unfortunately that
Speaker 1: they've got to lock up a lot of DC If
Speaker 1: that's well, when you go under oath, as many of
Speaker 1: these people did, and say Biden is fine, he's sharp
Speaker 1: as attack. I mean, there's pretty ample evidence now that
Speaker 1: many of those people are saying that. Yes. I mean,
Speaker 1: then if you're want to get people on perjury, that's
Speaker 1: the statue. Yeah, if that's the case. I meant, at
Speaker 1: a minimum, you could get them on perjury. But I mean,
Speaker 1: this would be a great question for a US attorney
Speaker 1: if if there is a conspiracy to cover up the
Speaker 1: health of the president of the United States, who is
Speaker 1: unable to do the job. And remember when Hillary said
Speaker 1: there was a vast right wing conspiracy and everybody kind
Speaker 1: of ridiculed it about Bill Clinton. I think it is
Speaker 1: clear at this point that there was a vast left
Speaker 1: wing conspiracy to conceal Joe Biden's dementia, and there were
Speaker 1: many people who knew about this and chose to lie publicly,
Speaker 1: sometimes under oath, about his fitness to be president of
Speaker 1: the United States. I mean, the irony here, Buck is,
Speaker 1: all these people lectured us about being on the right
Speaker 1: side of history, and I believe they engaged in the
Speaker 1: most indefensible act in the White House that any of
Speaker 1: us by and large have seen in any of our lives. Also,
Speaker 1: just Jo, we could do a supercut of and I
Speaker 1: mean some of these exact individuals that you're talking about
Speaker 1: whose names were forgotten by And it's not you know,
Speaker 1: when we're talking about Biden forgetting a name, it's not
Speaker 1: you know, somebody saying something and then correcting himself a
Speaker 1: second later. It's he probably had a conversation with the
Speaker 1: person with that name, having no idea what the difference is.
Speaker 1: Because he has dementia, okay, because his brain is not
Speaker 1: functioning the way that it used to. And all of
Speaker 1: these people, though Clay, were making the case when Trump
Speaker 1: was in office that we should invoke the one that
Speaker 1: his advisor should invokee. The twenty fifth Amendent on Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: They all know what the twenty fifth Amendment is. If
Speaker 1: this was not the time to invoke the twenty fifth Amendment,
Speaker 1: why do we have it? Why is it even on
Speaker 1: the books. Is there a more clear cutcase in the
Speaker 1: history of this country while that amendment has been in
Speaker 1: force when it should have been used. No, And yet
Speaker 1: they used it as a political weapon against Trump and
Speaker 1: not as a tool to help the country and do
Speaker 1: their duty by the American people. This is this is catastrophic, man.
Speaker 1: I mean, the amount of of credibility and integrity and
Speaker 1: decency that has been just lit on fire in front
Speaker 1: of everybody, not just you, me, the right wingers. Anybody
Speaker 1: with a brain who's paying attention knows this is terrible
Speaker 1: what they tell you this. Sorry to cut you off, Buck,
Speaker 1: but I'm the more I read about this, the more
Speaker 1: fired up I get. We had congressional hearings about January sixth.
Speaker 1: Why would Republicans not have hearings and an investigation into
Speaker 1: Joe Biden's dementia and the cover up that Democrats provided
Speaker 1: for it and call all of these people under oath
Speaker 1: and make them testify about what they saw based on
Speaker 1: some of the revelations that are coming out in this book.
Speaker 1: Tell me why that wouldn't make sense? Yeah, makes sense
Speaker 1: to me. We have some people. Have you heard anybody
Speaker 1: suggest it? I haven't heard anybody suggest it, But I mean,
Speaker 1: if you use jan sixth as an argument, that's the
Speaker 1: worst day since the Civil War. That's what Joe Biden.
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris tried to say. Where does this rank covering
Speaker 1: up the president's dementia for years in incredible danger that
Speaker 1: our country faced, not to mention who was the actual president? Well,
Speaker 1: we also need to know. And there have been people
Speaker 1: raising the issue of the autopen and it's usage now
Speaker 1: a lot of people use autopens. It's not that there
Speaker 1: was an autopen used by a president, and it's did
Speaker 1: the president actually know that his signature was going on
Speaker 1: these things? Right? You know, if your wife says, sign
Speaker 1: my check and she says, that's fine, it's not forgery,
Speaker 1: Like you're not gonna get a double for it. Right
Speaker 1: if you're signing checks and you're giving yourself money and
Speaker 1: people don't know, and that's that's not okay. And the
Speaker 1: same thing would apply to the press. I mean, you're
Speaker 1: so right here, and I mean there is significant examination,
Speaker 1: for instance, in contract rights, did someone understand did they
Speaker 1: have the wherewithal to bind themselves or a corporation to
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Speaker 1: I know a lot of you are always saying to us,
Speaker 1: make sure we focus on what Trump is doing, and
Speaker 1: we will continue do that today. We try to do
Speaker 1: it every day. The good news is he's just got
Speaker 1: so much going that is in progress. We're updating you
Speaker 1: on it. In the Middle East and the deals he's
Speaker 1: trying to accomplish there. We'll have more of the specifics
Speaker 1: when he gets back. Obviously, while he's over there, some
Speaker 1: of these things are still being negotiated. But we do
Speaker 1: know that there is reporting that Iran wants a deal
Speaker 1: on the nuclear program with Trump. Can Trump figure out
Speaker 1: something with Iran? Is Look, we want iron not to
Speaker 1: have nukes and we want to not have to go
Speaker 1: to war or engage in an extended aerial campaign that
Speaker 1: could lead into war against Iran. Right, We're trying to
Speaker 1: accomplish both of those things if possible. That's what Trump
Speaker 1: is trying to accomplish no war in the Middle East,
Speaker 1: no nuclear Iran, and be confident in that, be certain
Speaker 1: in that. To agree, you can be certain in anything.
Speaker 1: And we'll see if Trump is able to pull that off.
Speaker 1: It's so funny, Clay, he may in fact be worth
Speaker 1: by the end of this administration, maybe by the end
Speaker 1: of this year, the Nobel Peace Prize several times over.
Speaker 1: They will never give it to him, never ever, because
Speaker 1: that is just going right into the heart of the
Speaker 1: international elite. They will never give him the Nobel Peace Prize,
Speaker 1: even though well that's why it's kind of become a joke.
Speaker 1: But we are watching this closely. You're also noticing we're
Speaker 1: not talking too much about the economy this week. That's because, hey,
Speaker 1: how's your four to one k looking Clay over there
Speaker 1: with his French cuff shirts with the monograms and the
Speaker 1: stock ticker behind him. I can just see it right now.
Speaker 1: We got to get like a separate set for you
Speaker 1: on radio where Clay's like, all right, guys, we're talking stocks.
Speaker 1: He said, don't sell, if anything buy. It was good advice.
Speaker 1: It was good advice, and I will tell you great advice.
Speaker 1: I actually I did buy the dip and uh, and
Speaker 1: it was a good move. Stocks are up for the year.
Speaker 1: That that's the thing you need to know. And you know,
Speaker 1: things have gotten a lot better because they don't put
Speaker 1: the stock ticker up on CNN, they don't put the
Speaker 1: stock ticker up on MSNBC. It is such a dishonest
Speaker 1: thing that when the stocks were going down, that was
Speaker 1: the lead story. Price of eggs. Let me hit you
Speaker 1: at this buck. Price of gas. Nobody talking about it.
Speaker 1: Last night, I went to an MLS game two dollars
Speaker 1: sixty five cents. I drove past a Nashville area gas
Speaker 1: station two dollars sixty five cents. It is continuing to
Speaker 1: come down even as we typically gas prices go up
Speaker 1: in the summer. People drive more, that's a general rule.
Speaker 1: It's down by half compared to what it was in
Speaker 1: the summer of twenty twenty two with Joe Biden virtually
Speaker 1: zero media discussion. That's how most people recognize what the
Speaker 1: price of goods is. That's the thing they see and
Speaker 1: just and see price changing constantly. Gas prices for year lows.
Speaker 1: You know, And part of this, I think is whether
Speaker 1: you're when you're reporting on the news, you have to
Speaker 1: focus on what is important, and you look for what
Speaker 1: is in conflict in those important areas. Right, So the economy,
Speaker 1: should we be spending more or how's the market going?
Speaker 1: Or where's unemployment? And what can be done to change this?
Speaker 1: And what are the policies. The opposition to Trump on
Speaker 1: these things right now is so weak as to be
Speaker 1: not even really worthy of time. That's just the truth
Speaker 1: that they are not mounting any real arguments against it.
Speaker 1: So we're updating you on what he's doing at some
Speaker 1: level because that's the only show in town and it's
Speaker 1: going well, right. I mean, if it was and when
Speaker 1: things were rough, what did we say, Okay, the market's down,
Speaker 1: it's going to be choppy. This is going to require
Speaker 1: a reset. But we think he knows what he's doing,
Speaker 1: trusting this, and sure enough, here we are. So I
Speaker 1: just give you all that because we're watching. Trust me,
Speaker 1: all Clay and I do is read the news pretty
Speaker 1: much all day long and set up stories to talk
Speaker 1: about because I know there can be a little bit
Speaker 1: of pushback on why are we talking about the Biden thing?
Speaker 1: Because we're just finding out the full extent of how
Speaker 1: dishonest and disgraceful.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And by the way, to people out there who say, well,
Speaker 1: we know he was bad. Did you see what they
Speaker 1: did on January sixth? They spent four years marinating in
Speaker 1: January sixth, they had prime time hearings, they came out
Speaker 1: and told all of us it was the worst day
Speaker 1: since the Civil War. I would submit to you this
Speaker 1: is way worse. And the media is going to cover it,
Speaker 1: and the Democrat brand it's a big left wing conscent.
Speaker 5: Beer.
Speaker 1: See, if Republicans do their job and they hold all
Speaker 1: these people's feet to the fire, this will make January
Speaker 1: sixth look like a random BLM riot, which is basically
Speaker 1: what it was. And we saw hundreds of those. We
Speaker 1: never remembered the bore in our lives. I remember this
Speaker 1: Tapper publicly, mister Jake Tapper, who's co authored this book
Speaker 1: that is rightly being Unfortunately, they're going to sell a
Speaker 1: ton of copies, so it is a smart financial decision.
Speaker 1: But the premise of it, which is we're the good
Speaker 1: guys for telling you the truth now, is absurd and
Speaker 1: just just an affront to our intelligence and to the
Speaker 1: dignity of public discourse.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: But we're watching all the But I do think that
Speaker 1: building on what you just said is important and why
Speaker 1: this is such a huge deal. They have to cover
Speaker 1: it to make themselves cleansed from their complicity. There's no
Speaker 1: way around this, that's right. That's why they want control
Speaker 1: of the narrative to the greatest possible degree. And you've
Speaker 1: almost started to see some of them maybe with the
Speaker 1: beginnings of some contrition, insofar as they would rather be
Speaker 1: thought dumb than dishonest. Just remember that they because they
Speaker 1: know dishonesty means you're never listening to them again. Dumb
Speaker 1: means I'll do better next time. That's what they're going
Speaker 1: for here. But it actually was not that it was
Speaker 1: that they were dishonest. They are clever, Tapa. I just
Speaker 1: wanted to point out, and you can go go go
Speaker 1: check on Twitter public he was of the Oh, you
Speaker 1: said that people shouldn't attack cops on January sixth, and
Speaker 1: I mean on the day and right after. You're all complicit.
Speaker 1: You get no credit for it. Everybody who was speaking
Speaker 1: out against violence that day, you know your blood is
Speaker 1: on your He was one of those guys. He was
Speaker 1: a blood is on all your hands guys. And as
Speaker 1: we know, the only like substantial injury, or rather, the
Speaker 1: only fatal injury was to a woman who was shot
Speaker 1: by a police officer as capitolill copla the neck anyway,
Speaker 1: Ashley Babbitt, which is still a stain on this country
Speaker 1: that that happened. But okay, so here we are, now,
Speaker 1: Clay and they're going to have to try to explain
Speaker 1: this to their own side. Wolf Blitzer, the most milk
Speaker 1: toast of the CNN, right, I think I nailed that one.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I think that gave me perfectly information. Yes,
Speaker 1: the most milk toast of the CNN anchor stable over there.
Speaker 1: He starts with Hakeem Jefferies on Okay, what did we
Speaker 1: know about this decline? Let's walk through this together, friends.
Speaker 1: This just happened last twenty four hours, play too.
Speaker 6: President Biden didn't even recognize George Clooney at a fundraiser.
Speaker 6: Why should voters trust Democrats when it's clear so many
Speaker 6: in your party went to great lengths to keep Biden's
Speaker 6: condition hidden hidden from the public.
Speaker 4: I can't tell you what happened between George Clooney and
Speaker 4: President Biden that wasn't at that event.
Speaker 1: What I can say is that when not looking back.
Speaker 4: We We're going to continue to look forward because at
Speaker 4: this moment, we've got real problems that need to be
Speaker 4: addressed on behalf of the American people, including the Republican
Speaker 4: effort to snatch away healthcare, snatch away for assistants and
Speaker 4: hurt veterans.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna work, the uh, the old Potomac pivot,
Speaker 1: it's not it's not gonna work.
Speaker 3: The uh.
Speaker 1: We're just looking forward now. No, Actually, this is in
Speaker 1: many ways, Clay. I think Vima for the honor and
Speaker 1: integrity such as it is of a political party in America,
Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like this before. I've never seen
Speaker 1: anything that is this because it wasn't and you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to get at all. The January sixth
Speaker 1: was a different thing. You know, there was a whole
Speaker 1: lot of there was a lot of rigging that went
Speaker 1: on in that election. There's a whole lot of reason
Speaker 1: for concern. It was mostly it was a mostly peaceful protest.
Speaker 1: It was mostly a protest and everything else. This was
Speaker 1: a all the King's horses and all the King's men,
Speaker 1: multi year conspiracy at the very top of the government,
Speaker 1: day in and day out. It wasn't a protest that
Speaker 1: got too rowdy and that then was treated like it
Speaker 1: was you know, Pearl Barbauming. I think, and I think
Speaker 1: we need to see this for what it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's why I think we need to have primetime
Speaker 1: congressional hearings. I just I don't if Republicans do not
Speaker 1: do this, they are incompetent, because one, it's super important
Speaker 1: for the country. We can never have this situation occur again.
Speaker 1: Say whatever you want about Barack Obama, say whatever you
Speaker 1: want about Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush. Did
Speaker 1: anybody doubt that they had the mental faculties to make
Speaker 1: whatever choices they wanted to make? Of course not. I
Speaker 1: think Heck, I'd like to see Obama under oath. Why
Speaker 1: did Obama not pick Joe Biden in twenty sixteen. It's
Speaker 1: some real question that Biden has never really answered. I
Speaker 1: think it's because they could see already that he was
Speaker 1: in the early stages of dementia in twenty sixteen, and
Speaker 1: that's why he went to Hillary about that. He didn't
Speaker 1: let his VP that was there for eight years take over. Now.
Speaker 1: I know they tried to say, well, Joe, you're just
Speaker 1: not doing well enough because your son died. I'm sure
Speaker 1: that was debilitating to Biden and probably did not help
Speaker 1: his descent into dementia. But was the death of his
Speaker 1: son partly what they used as a cover to explain
Speaker 1: his descent into dementia. Maybe it accelerated it. In twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: he didn't recognize the guy who had been his top
Speaker 1: advisor since the nineteen eighties. And I hate to say this,
Speaker 1: but you all know how dementia works. Some days you
Speaker 1: can have good days and you can think, hey, maybe
Speaker 1: it's not so bad. I thought they this is where
Speaker 1: you and I see this a little differently. I think
Speaker 1: they thought they could thread the needle with a good
Speaker 1: day on debate night. And I don't know how they
Speaker 1: thought that. I don't know what the nap schedule was
Speaker 1: or whatever, or the drugs that they were likely shooting
Speaker 1: him up with right before he went out. And I
Speaker 1: you know, you could look at his eyes. Remember us
Speaker 1: talking about how he would wear the sunglasses. But if
Speaker 1: you zoomed in on his eyes, the man looked hopped
Speaker 1: up on stuff like crazy when he was given some
Speaker 1: of these speeches. Remember how angry he looked. Remember how
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm there is zero doubt that they were
Speaker 1: shooting him up like crazy. Remember when he finished the
Speaker 1: State of the Union and he read go get Him?
Speaker 1: Do you remember that? And remember when he went to
Speaker 1: Ukraine and at the end he had lived, and they
Speaker 1: were so angry at him about what he said at
Speaker 1: the end, like we've got a tear down putin or
Speaker 1: whatever it was. They the guy could barely read off
Speaker 1: a prompter. But like an old ballplayer who's been doing
Speaker 1: something for a long time, he could be as good
Speaker 1: as he was for short periods of time, depending on
Speaker 1: day and time. I'm gonna tell you this right now.
Speaker 1: If it was really about what was good for the
Speaker 1: country and going forward, being more accurate and doing a
Speaker 1: better job, where's your invitation. Where's my invitation to go
Speaker 1: on Morning Joe and explain why we the whole time? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but when is the view going to say, Hey, Buck,
Speaker 1: I want you to come on and just walk us
Speaker 1: through why you and Clay. They can have both of us.
Speaker 1: It'd be fun. Why you and Clay were right about
Speaker 1: this for years to the point where it was almost
Speaker 1: like the mockery felt hackneyed after a while. It's like
Speaker 1: we've just done this joke day in and day out,
Speaker 1: day in and day because we're left with no choice.
Speaker 1: Why did you guys get it right? No, Instead, we're
Speaker 1: still some we were right, they were wrong, but somehow
Speaker 1: they still feel morally superior in the situation. This is
Speaker 1: what you have to remember about Democrats. It doesn't matter
Speaker 1: that they look like absolute well liars and buffoons. It's
Speaker 1: they did this to stop the bad team. The bad
Speaker 1: people were the bad people. Nothing else matters, which is,
Speaker 1: by the way, their entire ethos when it comes to
Speaker 1: dealing with Donald Trump. So is it surprising Clay that
Speaker 1: they would do this given that they say, I, you know,
Speaker 1: they have the on Laura Show last night just to
Speaker 1: kind of laugh. There's these professors at Yale, as if
Speaker 1: that's supposed to impress anybody, it should not impress anybody.
Speaker 1: These professors at Yale who are leaving the country because
Speaker 1: they're experts in fascism and they can't handle all the
Speaker 1: fascism that's going on. So they're idiots and cowards because
Speaker 1: they're just abatting their country instead of standing in No
Speaker 1: surprise there right got to go find a tenured position
Speaker 1: somewhere else. But at what point do they just realize
Speaker 1: you guys are wrong. You're insane. Grow up and calm down.
Speaker 1: By the way, we got another bit of breaking news.
Speaker 1: That's another conspiracy theory I think that we've shared on
Speaker 1: this show that now looks like it's true. Jim Jordan
Speaker 1: is investigating, and it appears he has found smoking gun
Speaker 1: evidence that Peiser hid the results of their COVID shot
Speaker 1: to avoid it coming out before the twenty twenty election. So,
Speaker 1: in addition to all the other rig jobs that were
Speaker 1: going over, the Wall Street Journal just published Lawmakers investigating
Speaker 1: whether Pfiser waited to share results, and Jim Jordan just
Speaker 1: shared some tweets and emails that suggest that Pfizer's top
Speaker 1: execs intentionally prevented that from occurring, which obviously given how
Speaker 1: close that was, and Jim Jordan now is going to
Speaker 1: come on the show with us tomorrow to be talking
Speaker 1: about that buck. So conspiracy theorists are on a hell
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Speaker 7: Sometimes all you can do is laugh, and they do
Speaker 7: a lot of it with the Sunday Hang Join Clay
Speaker 7: and Buck as they laugh it up in the Clay
Speaker 7: and Buck podcast feed on the iHeartRadio app or wherever
Speaker 7: you get your podcasts.
Speaker 1: We got a lot of you reacting. We're gonna get
Speaker 1: to some of those eight hundred and two A two
Speaker 1: two eight A two. Obviously as the phone line, we'll
Speaker 1: try to take a couple of your calls. No guest today,
Speaker 1: by the way, we did mention we're going to talk
Speaker 1: to Jim Jordan tomorrow about explosive information that he has uncovered,
Speaker 1: which suggests that the COVID shot, which we now know
Speaker 1: is a limit and basically worthless, but that top executives
Speaker 1: worked to keep news about what they thought was the
Speaker 1: success of the COVID shot from going public before the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty election, which Trump has said publicly he believed happened,
Speaker 1: which may well have swung the election by itself because
Speaker 1: the race came down to forty thousand votes in Wisconsin,
Speaker 1: at Georgia and Arizona. So who knows. I mean, if
Speaker 1: you had thought, hey, there's going to be a vaccine coming,
Speaker 1: would people have been more likely to vote differently? I
Speaker 1: don't think that's a crazy idea. Certainly we know if
Speaker 1: Hunter Biden's business dealings, if Joe Biden's dementia, I mean,
Speaker 1: the rig job in twenty twenty just continues to add
Speaker 1: different layers. But there was a big Spring Court case
Speaker 1: that I want to talk some about, Buck and you
Speaker 1: mentioned off the top of the show that you listened
Speaker 1: to a lot of it. I was not. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you where. I wasn't a sec I was reading about it.
Speaker 1: But I do want to play this because it ties
Speaker 1: in with the first hour. Do you know what happened
Speaker 1: one year ago today? Joe Biden publicly challenged Donald Trump
Speaker 1: to an early debate. Do you remember this, Buck? This
Speaker 1: is what it sounded like for those of you who
Speaker 1: had forgotten. This was one year ago today.
Speaker 8: Listen, Donald Trump lost two debates to me in twenty
Speaker 8: twenty since, and he hadn't shown up for debate. Now
Speaker 8: he's acting like he wants to debate me again. Will
Speaker 8: make my day, Pal, I'll even do it twice. So
Speaker 8: let's pick the dace.
Speaker 7: Donald.
Speaker 8: I hear you're free on Wednesdays.
Speaker 1: So and that was because Trump was going to criminal
Speaker 1: court on Wednesdays.
Speaker 7: Ha ha ha.
Speaker 1: With the preposterous efforts to destroy Trump's ability to run,
Speaker 1: we may try today, pal, Buck, is that the most
Speaker 1: disastrous political taunt in history? Given what happened one month later,
Speaker 1: If if they had just listened to me, they would
Speaker 1: have been in a much better spot because their best
Speaker 1: option was Biden. But their best option was Biden with
Speaker 1: no by the time he was making that taunt with
Speaker 1: no debates, That's what they should have done. That was
Speaker 1: the fatal flaw in all of this was they thought
Speaker 1: they could pull one over with the debates one more time,
Speaker 1: and given that Trump hadn't debated in the primary, the
Speaker 1: Democrats could have very easily said, well we won't. You know,
Speaker 1: people have seen enough of these two anyway. I know
Speaker 1: it's at some level water under the bridge, but they
Speaker 1: just misplayed this thing. They just screwed it up, the
Speaker 1: same way they misplayed running against Trump across the board. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they totally did. And I think, as you break all
Speaker 1: of this down again, that was one year ago and
Speaker 1: Biden completely blown up. And I still think and I
Speaker 1: wonder if in the book they're going to kind of
Speaker 1: give us an idea of what they intended with the
Speaker 1: June twenty seventh, because I had forgotten that he said
Speaker 1: he'd debate him twice. Remember they didn't even attempt this
Speaker 1: second debate because the first one went so disastrously. But
Speaker 1: it was Biden making that video and taunting Trump about
Speaker 1: how much he wanted to debate that actually put this
Speaker 1: on the calendar and bucks right. If they had listened
Speaker 1: to him, they could have at least continued the vast
Speaker 1: left wing conspiracy about his health until September or October
Speaker 1: when they did a debate, and maybe then they could
Speaker 1: have shot up Biden with enough stuff to make him
Speaker 1: able to go out and debate. I tend to think
Speaker 1: that it would have been even more of an implosion
Speaker 1: if they had been able to keep him in and
Speaker 1: not been able to make the change till September. But
Speaker 1: he would have been able to run. They wouldn't have
Speaker 1: been able to replace him like they did and switch
Speaker 1: to Kamala at the last possible minute. But I did
Speaker 1: want to get into this. You listened to a lot
Speaker 1: of the discussion, like an hour of it. I was
Speaker 1: pretty deep into it. Yeah, for those of you who
Speaker 1: don't know, major discussed debate, major oral argument at the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court today, and it was actually a little bit
Speaker 1: complicated because there's kind of two different parts of what
Speaker 1: they were arguing. And I'm going to try to lay
Speaker 1: out why I think it's significant. And producer Ali I
Speaker 1: sent you a cut of Clarence Thomas that I think
Speaker 1: gets to the essence of this really really well. So
Speaker 1: let me know when that cut is ready. But it
Speaker 1: is ready, Okay, So Buck here is So for those
Speaker 1: of you out there who were not following this, it
Speaker 1: is a little bit complicated, and just the whole Trump
Speaker 1: era has been steeped and complicated legal arcana as we
Speaker 1: have been breaking it all down. But really this is
Speaker 1: kind of a two parter that they were arguing today.
Speaker 1: One is the big issue is, hey, is it possible
Speaker 1: for Trump's executive order on birthright citizenship to be legal
Speaker 1: and for him to have the power to say that
Speaker 1: birthright citizenship has been missed applied effectively and citizen and
Speaker 1: kids children, Babies born to illegal immigrants do not become
Speaker 1: automatic American citizens right. People who are here in this
Speaker 1: country illegally do not have the ability to come across
Speaker 1: our border, have a baby, and then your baby automatically
Speaker 1: becomes an American citizen. That's a big picture question. But
Speaker 1: structurally this is impacting everything that Trump is trying to do.
Speaker 1: The question is should a federal district court judge be
Speaker 1: able to effectively enjoin a presidential action nationwide? They're around
Speaker 1: six hundred and fifty ish of these federal district court judges, right,
Speaker 1: and the only person who has that level of universal
Speaker 1: constitutional authority based on just what he thinks or she
Speaker 1: thinks it's always been to he is the president. So
Speaker 1: there's a problem here. No one Supreme Court justice can
Speaker 1: say this is the deal for everybody all across the country.
Speaker 1: But one federal judge, a lower and even lower than
Speaker 1: an appeals court judge, one one circuit court judge could say,
Speaker 1: this is where we're getting into the universal, universal injunction issue.
Speaker 1: And I think it's very interesting, Clay, because you know,
Speaker 1: with the two sides arguing this morning, the side that
Speaker 1: was arguing against on behalf of I guess the state
Speaker 1: of New Jersey, which is saying our welfare programs will
Speaker 1: be too burdened by not knowing if somebody is a
Speaker 1: citizen or you know, if they've been given citizenship, whether
Speaker 1: born in the state or outside the state. I mean
Speaker 1: this It is a pretty complicated series of interlocking legal
Speaker 1: issues here, but I can say this one of the
Speaker 1: things that kept coming up was they said, yeah, okay, sure,
Speaker 1: it's a problem for a federal judge to just be
Speaker 1: able to do that unless it's like really important and
Speaker 1: they're really sure. And that's more or less what the
Speaker 1: anti Trump side of this kept saying to if the judges,
Speaker 1: you know, the justices had to say, you guys do
Speaker 1: this a lot, and I'm sure you always think that
Speaker 1: the people that you like are doing this because it's
Speaker 1: so extreme and so necessary. But it can't just be
Speaker 1: on the whim of a lower circuit or a lower
Speaker 1: circuit court judge. What the policy for the whole country is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it actually goes to me And this is me
Speaker 1: nerding out a little bit legally. It actually goes to
Speaker 1: the essence of separation of powers because there are, in
Speaker 1: theory three co equal branches of the United States government, right,
Speaker 1: take you back to eighth grade history or whatever, the executive,
Speaker 1: the congressional branch, and the judicial. The judicial branch relies
Speaker 1: on the authority of the Supreme Court. That's why it's
Speaker 1: called the Supreme Court. In order for something to happen,
Speaker 1: five Supreme Court justices have to agree on it. Circuit
Speaker 1: court's buck. In order for a circuit court ruling to
Speaker 1: be in effect, at least two out of three Circuit
Speaker 1: court judges have to agree on something. What is happening
Speaker 1: with the Federal District Court is one judge is basically
Speaker 1: executing on a level that Circuit Court judges who are
Speaker 1: above them, and Supreme Court judges who are above those
Speaker 1: Circuit Court those Circuit court judges do not have. In
Speaker 1: other words, the single authority of a district court judge
Speaker 1: is actually higher on the flow chart than two of
Speaker 1: their superior court judges. And that might sound a little complicated,
Speaker 1: but I'm trying to explain. And Clarence Thomas pointed out
Speaker 1: that this has really only become an issue in the
Speaker 1: modern day, and this is the cut I pulled because
Speaker 1: I think he does a good job of distilling how
Speaker 1: things have changed.
Speaker 7: General.
Speaker 4: When were the first universal injunctions used.
Speaker 5: We believe that the best reading of that is what
Speaker 5: you said in Trump against Hawaii, which is that words
Speaker 5: in nineteen sixty three was really the first universal in
Speaker 5: jes function. There's a dispute about Perkins against Luken's Oil
Speaker 5: going back to nineteen forty, and of course we point
Speaker 5: to the court's opinion that reversed that universal injunction issued
Speaker 5: by the d C Circuit and said it's profoundly wrong. Now,
Speaker 5: if you look at the cases at the either party site,
Speaker 5: you see a common theme the cases that we cite,
Speaker 5: like National Treasury, Treasury's Employment Union, Perkins against Lukens Oil,
Speaker 5: Frothingham and Massachusetts against Melon, going back to Scott against
Speaker 5: Donald and all of those those are cases where the
Speaker 5: court considered and addressed the sort of universal in that case,
Speaker 5: statewide issue of provision of injunctive relief. When the court
Speaker 5: is considered it address this is consistently said, you have
Speaker 5: to limit the remedy to the plaintifs of appearing in
Speaker 5: court and complaining of that remedy.
Speaker 4: So we survived until the nineteen sixties without universal injunctions.
Speaker 5: That's exactly correct, and in fact those are very limited,
Speaker 5: very rare, even in the nineteen sixties. It really exploded
Speaker 5: in two thousand and seven. In our curve petition in
Speaker 5: Summers against Earth Island Institute, we pointed out that the
Speaker 5: Ninth Circuit started doing this in a whole bunch of
Speaker 5: cases involving environmental claims.
Speaker 1: Okay, now, again this is in the weeds, but I
Speaker 1: thought that Clarence Thomas did a really good job. This
Speaker 1: is only something that's happened recently in our two hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty ish year history, and usually buck and again
Speaker 1: this is going into UIs This also the Ninth the
Speaker 1: Ninth Circuit is the most lunatic, left ranging, activist judicial
Speaker 1: circuit in the country, so that's where they started doing this.
Speaker 1: No surprise. Most Supreme Court cases come about because the
Speaker 1: circuit Court's ruled different directions. That is, as Buck just mentioned,
Speaker 1: the Ninth Circuit is like the West coast California prominent
Speaker 1: where I live. I am in the sixth Circuit. That's Tennessee, Kentucky, Ohio, Michigan.
Speaker 1: I think a couple of states like that. The Fifth
Speaker 1: Circuit is traditionally seen as one of the most conservative.
Speaker 1: That's Texas, Louisiana. I don't have this circuits in front
Speaker 1: of me right now. Usually the Supreme Court is called
Speaker 1: on to address circuit splits. That's where the ninth star
Speaker 1: in the Fifth Circuit may have had a different interpretation
Speaker 1: of the law. Those are the most fertile, the most
Speaker 1: germane for the Supreme Court to step in on because
Speaker 1: we need a nationwide decision and there are two different
Speaker 1: circuit courts ruling differently. Here you have one random judge
Speaker 1: and I don't know, Boston, Massachusetts, deciding what the law
Speaker 1: should be for the whole nation, or it could be
Speaker 1: one random judge in middle of nowhere, Texas. It is
Speaker 1: a direct attack upon the entire legitimacy of the courts
Speaker 1: to give a district court judge more power than his
Speaker 1: superiors on the Circuit and Supreme Court, and they can
Speaker 1: effectively order the entire federal government as though they run
Speaker 1: the federal government. I mean, yes, think there will be appeals,
Speaker 1: and yes they'll go to the Supreme Court, but for
Speaker 1: a period of time they get to be the legal emperor,
Speaker 1: if you will, of America. And this wasn't a problem
Speaker 1: really until they made it a problem, and they dated
Speaker 1: a problem by having these by these left wing judges.
Speaker 1: We all know how this works.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: They don't feel bound by the constraints of language or
Speaker 1: law or tradition or anything else. It's this is so
Speaker 1: so important that we have to smash the things that
Speaker 1: we used to rely on to keep us from doing this.
Speaker 1: And that's really a large part, I think a lot
Speaker 1: of the argument today. So, I mean, this is really
Speaker 1: this wasn't even about the merits of whether a birthright
Speaker 1: citizenship extends to those who are in the country illegally
Speaker 1: or not, although it could if it went against the
Speaker 1: administration terribly, the Supreme Court right could come down and say,
Speaker 1: you know what, we think, even just taking a peek
Speaker 1: at the merits, this is so bad that we're actually
Speaker 1: gonna uphold this universal injunction until we hear the merits
Speaker 1: on the case, and that would be a huge win
Speaker 1: for the non Trump side. The other side of this,
Speaker 1: I think clays right, they could issue guidance on the
Speaker 1: scope of the injunction specifically in this case. That would
Speaker 1: probably be the best thing you could get from the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court on this. But to me, I just sit
Speaker 1: here saying, Okay, eventually we're going to have to look
Speaker 1: at whether you can steal citizenship or not, because if
Speaker 1: citizenship can be given to people who have broken the
Speaker 1: law to get it, you have debased and de and
Speaker 1: I know it's been going on, and it has been
Speaker 1: wrong the whole time. You have debased and devalued what
Speaker 1: it means to be an American in a way that
Speaker 1: I think, unfortunately is irreparable. I agree one hundred percent
Speaker 1: with that. Here's the question for you, and we can
Speaker 1: debate it or discuss and when we come back, because
Speaker 1: I think it's one of the challenges the Court's going
Speaker 1: to be grappling with. How do you address all of
Speaker 1: the people who had citizenship for decades based on the
Speaker 1: belief that birthright citizenship did convey American city. Well, the
Speaker 1: EO makes this. The EO only affects those after the
Speaker 1: EO goes into effect. I get that, but I think
Speaker 1: there's going to be an equal protection argument on behalf
Speaker 1: of everybody else. They're going to say this is an
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Speaker 1: As you know, President Trump's on a huge trip through
Speaker 1: the Middle East. A lot going on there offered a
Speaker 1: pathway to normalcy with Syria after a long and horrific
Speaker 1: civil war in that country and US military operations there
Speaker 1: against Goddess all that stuff. Now, perhap, perhaps no guarantees
Speaker 1: there could be a better future for that country. He's
Speaker 1: got deal making happening with the Saudi's, deal making happening
Speaker 1: with the EU with Cutter and perhaps with Iran as well.
Speaker 1: That remains to be seen. Those details remain to be seen.
Speaker 1: But there's also Trump speaking to the troops in Cutters.
Speaker 1: You know, we have a very large military base there,
Speaker 1: and he decided that he was going to address them directly.
Speaker 1: I wanted to let you hear from some of this.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about how the military and recruitment and all
Speaker 1: that is going under the Trump administration as well. But
Speaker 1: this has cut eight. Trump sank some words to the troops.
Speaker 9: The real strength of our military doesn't come from it's
Speaker 9: fighter jets. It really comes from our people. That's you,
Speaker 9: comes from our people. Your unbelievable people, the aptitude and
Speaker 9: all of the things you have to do to do
Speaker 9: what you do. You know, I look at some of
Speaker 9: those engines, and I'm a pretty smart cookie.
Speaker 1: I would tell you I'm really supplied.
Speaker 9: And I look at you, and you take those engines
Speaker 9: apart and put them back together, blindfolded and fix them up.
Speaker 9: What you're able to do and then to fly them
Speaker 9: just incredible. You're incredible. You're a very special group of people.
Speaker 9: And that's why in my twenty twenty six budget includes
Speaker 9: across the board, maybe you don't want to look for
Speaker 9: the good of the country, you don't have to take it,
Speaker 9: pay raises for each and every one of you, substantial
Speaker 9: pay raising.
Speaker 1: Pay raise for the military clay. You know, recruitment already
Speaker 1: up substantially under the Trump administration and Secretary of Defense
Speaker 1: had heg sets Tenure. Turns out that the people that
Speaker 1: you want fighting your wars or preparing rather the defense
Speaker 1: of your nation in the event of war want actually
Speaker 1: the business of the Pentagon to be war fighting and
Speaker 1: the focus of it to be on war fighting and
Speaker 1: not a big social justice experiment and a bureaucracy where
Speaker 1: people just show up and it's not really clear what
Speaker 1: anybody's doing, no doubt. And I think again Trump's tour
Speaker 1: of the Middle East, it has a incredible impact already
Speaker 1: in terms of what Iran is reportedly willing to do.
Speaker 1: And also this comes on the heels buck. We got
Speaker 1: more data from April in the economy and I'm looking
Speaker 1: at this article from Axios Hard Data. This is the headline.
Speaker 1: Hard data suggest tariff driven inflation and recession fears may
Speaker 1: be overblown. You mentioned earlier the S and P five
Speaker 1: hundred back near six thousand, now over fifty nine hundred,
Speaker 1: and it says new data out Thursday showed steady retail
Speaker 1: sales and a surprising drop in wholesale prices in April,
Speaker 1: such that there is no evidence that the tariffs are
Speaker 1: leading to massive increases in cost of goods. In fact,
Speaker 1: the Producer Price indexed showed that prices actually fell in April,
Speaker 1: and the cost of goods overall is flat in many ways.
Speaker 1: And I mentioned buck the price of gas, which no
Speaker 1: one is talking. Isn't it kind of crazy that all
Speaker 1: of the headlines we saw about what eggs cost. And
Speaker 1: I don't know what percentage of you buy eggs weekly,
Speaker 1: maybe all I don't know, but I know most of
Speaker 1: you buy gas weekly. And I know most of you.
Speaker 1: When you gauge what things cost, you don't look necessarily
Speaker 1: at one product. When you go to the grocery store,
Speaker 1: you buy whatever your usual groceries are, and then the
Speaker 1: price comes up and you're like, boy, that's been a
Speaker 1: lot more than I expected. Gas is really easy. Remember
Speaker 1: when people started putting that I did that picture of
Speaker 1: Joe Biden next to the gas gauges, little stickers you
Speaker 1: would see all over the place. I saw them all
Speaker 1: over my neighborhood. Those prices are down fifty percent since
Speaker 1: Joe Biden was in office. They're approaching the lowes that
Speaker 1: were set when Trump was in office. I mean, you
Speaker 1: just played that clip from the Middle East. Well, you
Speaker 1: know what happens when you have good relations with people
Speaker 1: in the Middle East, They put more oil and gas
Speaker 1: they actually want instead of they have a cartel they
Speaker 1: can control, basically to a large extent, what the price
Speaker 1: of gas is. Opek opex pretty powerful, and right now
Speaker 1: they're like, hey, we're well, you know, we have a
Speaker 1: good relationship with the United States. We're fine with producing
Speaker 1: a lot of oil and gas. It also is cutting
Speaker 1: the economic engine out of Russia when prices for oil
Speaker 1: and gas in Iran, which they sell on the black
Speaker 1: market to a large extent, when overall prices are low,
Speaker 1: the fact that you can get cheaper oil and gas
Speaker 1: from Russia and Iran because they're having to sell them
Speaker 1: on the black market, it means that the money that
Speaker 1: is pouring into those countries is declining. It should be
Speaker 1: a massive story. What price we're getting for gallons of gas?
Speaker 1: Right now? Almost no one's writing or talking about it.
Speaker 1: And if you really are concerned about the war in Ukraine,
Speaker 1: do you know one of the best things we could
Speaker 1: do to cut economic engine in the economic power of
Speaker 1: rush away? Lower gas prices. Do you know the best
Speaker 1: thing we could do to delegitimize the powers of the
Speaker 1: Ayatola in Iran? Lower gas prices. It's a huge friggin story.
Speaker 1: Google it. Hardly anybody's talking about it. But the price
Speaker 1: of eggs, Oh my goodness, we got to know every
Speaker 1: We gotta know how much your scrambled eggs cost. It's
Speaker 1: really goes to what stories are focused on. And I'm
Speaker 1: telling you yesterday, when I saw two sixty five gallon
Speaker 1: of gas in South Nashville, I bought over the weekend.
Speaker 1: I think it was two eighty seven. Prices keep coming down, Buck,
Speaker 1: This is where most people, normal people judge the economy
Speaker 1: based on what they have to pay to fill their
Speaker 1: gas tank up. That's just the reality. There's something else
Speaker 1: that I think Trump instinctively knows and has known his
Speaker 1: whole life and has lived his whole life, which is
Speaker 1: that the American economy is the single greatest wealth generation
Speaker 1: machine ever devised in the history of existence. Okay, nothing
Speaker 1: has ever been anywhere near what America has been for
Speaker 1: let's say, certainly the last one hundred and you know
Speaker 1: something years. Okay, America has been an incredible wealth generation machine.
Speaker 1: If it is allowed to continue to do what it does,
Speaker 1: it will also continue to make all of us wealthier.
Speaker 1: And I mean that, every single one of us as
Speaker 1: a people. It means, you know, this is when you
Speaker 1: start to look at what was the access to If
Speaker 1: you look at somebody in the nineteen fifties who was
Speaker 1: really rich, and look at somebody today, Okay, I mean
Speaker 1: your access to much better healthcare, much better food, much
Speaker 1: better entertainment, much more comfortable everything. I mean, we are
Speaker 1: all wealthier. Actually, this is what people get very much into.
Speaker 1: And Naval Ravakan who's a thinker that I sometimes cite
Speaker 1: on the show, does a very good job of explaining this.
Speaker 1: We get into status a lot of the time. Wealth
Speaker 1: and status are not the same thing. Right. You can
Speaker 1: talk about everybody getting wealthier in a country, and there
Speaker 1: may be people who still say no, no, no, And
Speaker 1: it's because they don't think that they have more than
Speaker 1: the people they want to have more then, but that's
Speaker 1: not the same thing I think Trump understands. So that's
Speaker 1: the status versus wealth paradigm. We all have actually gotten
Speaker 1: wealthier as a nation. I'm talking about now over one
Speaker 1: hundred year. Yeah, recently there's been some or you know,
Speaker 1: there have been years. You look at two thousand and eight,
Speaker 1: things have turned a bit. But as long as we
Speaker 1: don't mess up this amazing thing called the American economy
Speaker 1: too badly, it's going to continue to do what it does,
Speaker 1: which is create a wealthier and a more prosperous America
Speaker 1: all the time. Democrats are always so focused play on
Speaker 1: hyper regulating it and dividing the spoils within it and
Speaker 1: finding ways to carve up the pie. They don't even
Speaker 1: stop to think, this pie is getting bigger every year. Yes,
Speaker 1: let's how do we make this How do we keep
Speaker 1: this pie growing and getting bigger all the time with
Speaker 1: again the Democrat mindset, because it's about equality. In their minds,
Speaker 1: it's about status and if I don't if I feel
Speaker 1: like there are too many people who have This is
Speaker 1: why Bernie Sanders goes around. Billionaires have no impact on
Speaker 1: ninety nine point nine percent of Americans day to day lives. Okay,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter that there are a thousand billionaires or
Speaker 1: something like that in this country, but it's a fun
Speaker 1: way to divert people from Hey, what are you actually
Speaker 1: paying in taxes in your state? How good is your
Speaker 1: healthcare that you're being forced to because of regulations? What's
Speaker 1: actually happening with inflation chipping away at your savings? Like
Speaker 1: those are real things that affect you. Your analogy on
Speaker 1: the pie is actually the way that I see the country.
Speaker 1: I didn't like living on the East Coast because it
Speaker 1: felt to me like everybody was like, there's only twelve slices.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to fight you to see who can
Speaker 1: get the most slices. Like the East Coast, I would argue,
Speaker 1: of all the parts of the United States, is the
Speaker 1: most focused and status conscious. You getting something means somebody
Speaker 1: else will loses something. Best case scenario West Coast used
Speaker 1: to be before they destroyed it. Hey, let's build a
Speaker 1: brand new pie that's way bigger, right, like the brand
Speaker 1: new technology. It's not old school. Europe is the worst
Speaker 1: you with your pie analogy South is like, hey, do
Speaker 1: you want to share you know, it's like people are
Speaker 1: just really friendly. They're not necessarily as as status obsessed.
Speaker 1: But what you hit on is so important because because
Speaker 1: we all live this is a great stat and I
Speaker 1: think it's still true. The poorest twenty percent of Americans
Speaker 1: would be the richest people in almost every country in
Speaker 1: the world. And one of my favorite stats. I think
Speaker 1: you may have shared it for the first time. England
Speaker 1: is poorer than Mississippi. Yep, per capita. Yeah, and that's
Speaker 1: a holy crab moment if you've been to London. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying there's not a lot of rich people, but
Speaker 1: for a long time people dump on Mississippi. It's great state,
Speaker 1: by the way, a lot of great people, but they
Speaker 1: would say, oh, it's and I think it's still Mississippi
Speaker 1: as the poorest average per capita in the United States.
Speaker 1: It's richer than Great Britain. And that speaks to the
Speaker 1: wealth overall of the United States, that even our poorest
Speaker 1: state is wealthier than a huge European country on average. Yes, well,
Speaker 1: this is also why you know we have and this
Speaker 1: is maybe transitions a little bit of the RFK discussion.
Speaker 1: We have become a society where the challenge binges of
Speaker 1: and the diseases of abundance are far more of a
Speaker 1: problem than diseases of scarcity. Whether it's eating way too
Speaker 1: much and obesity and the health challenges from that, that's
Speaker 1: obviously an overabundance issue. I mean it is. You know,
Speaker 1: we're talking about the grocery store thing yesterday, and maybe
Speaker 1: this just makes me sound like I don't know how
Speaker 1: many of her watched Perfect Strangers, but I sound like
Speaker 1: Balkie Bartakamus, who is the h I think it's supposed
Speaker 1: to be like a Greek immigrant or something, and he'says like, oh,
Speaker 1: what the you know, amazing country. But I walk into
Speaker 1: the grocery stores around here, Clay, It's just like a
Speaker 1: vast reservoir of food. It's unbelievable how much produce and
Speaker 1: food Americans have access to. And we don't even think twice.
Speaker 1: And I've been you know, you've been in places too.
Speaker 1: I mean, you go to the Caribbean. Caribbean's poor. A
Speaker 1: lot of parts in the Caribbean are poor. I live there.
Speaker 1: There are some Yeah, that's what I mean. But I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you know it's truly poor, right, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: Haiti's one of the poorest countries on the planet. You
Speaker 1: go around here, you just take all of this stuff,
Speaker 1: all this stuff for granted a lot of the time.
Speaker 1: And I just think that with Trump, what you have
Speaker 1: is somebody whose focus is letting the greatest wealth generation
Speaker 1: machine in human history, which there is no argument that
Speaker 1: America is that thing, letting it just do its thing
Speaker 1: like ride this, ride this show horse all the way
Speaker 1: to the finish line. With Democrats, they sit around and
Speaker 1: they have committees about like, well, what about the other horses,
Speaker 1: Like how are they going to feel? Like what about
Speaker 1: the you know, No, let's let the American economy and
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a Calvin coolidest thing. Let
Speaker 1: the business of the American people be business. And I
Speaker 1: just think that you're seeing the early stages of that.
Speaker 1: And it doesn't have we don't have to have the
Speaker 1: sclerotic bureaucracy that is choking off so much wealth generation creativity.
Speaker 1: And and when you start to think about this country
Speaker 1: versus other countries, I mean you just look at GDP
Speaker 1: per capita wealth Clay. You know, China we think of
Speaker 1: as our nearest editor. I think Chinese GDP per capit
Speaker 1: is like a third of ours. I'm going off top
Speaker 1: of my head here, but I mean it's a fraction
Speaker 1: of what. But not only that, what they find is
Speaker 1: it's very hard to take the proverbial next step to
Speaker 1: actually challenge us, because this goes back to historically Japan
Speaker 1: was going to pass us if you looked at all
Speaker 1: the projections China's peaked. I think China's already begun to decline.
Speaker 1: And that's what can make them a little bit scary
Speaker 1: right now because sometimes, as we know historically, it's not
Speaker 1: when you peak that your power is at most. It's
Speaker 1: when you start to lose power that sometimes you overreach,
Speaker 1: which could happen with Taiwan. Things like I just think
Speaker 1: everyone should always be very cautious about listening to the
Speaker 1: catastrophists and the the high priests of resentment because that again,
Speaker 1: that gets you back into that status. This is what
Speaker 1: Marxists do. This is how communism gets going. You know.
Speaker 1: It's as long as they they they're making the right
Speaker 1: people miserable, they can make you miserable too. It's kind
Speaker 1: of the way that you know, overregulated, over controlled the
Speaker 1: economy's function. And Trump takes the approach of how do
Speaker 1: we do what is going to be best for the
Speaker 1: most every you know, one hundred times out of one hundred.
Speaker 1: The way to do this is to try to actually
Speaker 1: grow the American economy and we will all get richer.
Speaker 1: And there are a lot of ways we can even
Speaker 1: look at this ourselves. But I just think that the
Speaker 1: catastrophism stuff is it's so yeah, we have to watch
Speaker 1: the debt. That's when we can't. We can't just let
Speaker 1: this machine get destroyed. But it actually works. That's my
Speaker 1: fundamental thing. Like Trump knows that it works. If you
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