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Speaker 1: Why don't two point seven It is Kiss FM.

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Speaker 2: Are you familiar with this? Yeah, I think this. I

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Speaker 1: Of course this from way back in the day, no

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Speaker 1: doubt therek Gwent Stefani here, who was amazing. Everybody Gwent

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Speaker 1: was buzzing about your set after you did it at

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Speaker 3: I was backstage and Camilla Kbeo was on right before me,

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Speaker 3: and she was all sexy and like twerking and.

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Speaker 4: Doing all her stuff. You know, we were on the

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Speaker 4: a sweet little girl. I love her.

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Speaker 3: But I was like, oh my gosh, I gotta come

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Speaker 3: I was like, maybe I can do that toirl on

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Speaker 3: the what does she had like some kind of a

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Speaker 3: tourling thing she did. But it was a really exciting

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Speaker 3: and I love I love the fact that it's kind

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Speaker 3: then you're done a minute. Like sets are like, oh

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Speaker 3: my god, it's so exhausting, but it's just so fun

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Speaker 3: to do like such a quick you know.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, it was super fun.

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Speaker 1: I had well you did the set listen was the

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Speaker 1: Sweet Escape, then somebody Else's Don't Speak justicic Hall the background,

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Speaker 1: and it was like by at that point, and somebody

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Speaker 1: Else's is the new one. How many times did you

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Speaker 4: I think that was the first time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I had done in rehearsal like a couple

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Speaker 3: I did it a few times, but never live. And

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Speaker 3: so that's the thing when you have the new song,

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Speaker 3: You're like, oh my gosh, how much can I move?

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Because I I don't know

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Speaker 4: where you're breath yet.

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Speaker 3: You have to like learn how to like know when

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh my gosh, I learned that I'm

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Speaker 3: not going to move a lot on that song when

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Speaker 3: I sing it next time. Next time, I didn't. I

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Speaker 3: was like, okay, dancers, you dance, I'm gonna see. It

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Speaker 3: has a lot of long notes.

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Speaker 2: And it's entirely here in a second.

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Speaker 1: We did have a chance to get a little sample

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Speaker 1: of some of the album, which we will we can't

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Speaker 1: play now because it's not out, but we got a chance.

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Speaker 1: Then thank you for giving us permission for that. We

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Speaker 1: this album. And I think you were saying maybe I

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Speaker 1: read it, heard it. I don't know if you told

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Speaker 1: me you were saying. This track, the first single, somebody Else's,

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Speaker 1: almost didn't make the album for some reason.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because Okay, So I had been writing for a

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Speaker 3: find time when you're a mom, and like you almost

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Speaker 3: I felt guilty, like, oh, you know, because I've already

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Speaker 4: It's like just you did it, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 4: Like why are you gonna go do more?

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Speaker 3: But I feel like when I write, like it's so

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like working out for me, like I have

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm never going to have the body I had,

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Speaker 4: I need to work out. By the way, you still

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Speaker 4: have the body you had.

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Speaker 3: No, but you know what I'm saying, like you as

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Speaker 3: It's it's it's weird because the songs are literally handed

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Speaker 4: So whatever gets old is.

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Speaker 1: This span of time and emotion that is encapsulated in

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Speaker 4: So many layers to this.

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Speaker 3: And it's the thing is when I started writing, I

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Speaker 3: listening to the old stuff from TikTok, Like all of

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Speaker 3: my songs were getting big again on TikTok That's wild.

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Speaker 4: And write with some people you don't know, and a

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Speaker 3: was like, oh no, you need to work with Ja Cash.

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Speaker 3: I don't know you guys heard that song, but this

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Speaker 3: Like you're like a little girl like girl wrote it.

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Speaker 2: Hang on, please, when's the Fanny?

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Speaker 1: Somebody else's by the way, I mean, you know this,

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Speaker 1: you're a superstar. By the way, ever a question.

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Speaker 1: I just love that you wrote the most beautiful thank

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Speaker 4: I cannot take all the credit. I this is the thing.

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Speaker 4: So I once I found Ja Cash, going back to.

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Speaker 3: I'm giving everyone credit because I would not have this

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Speaker 1: I have to say, it is so special when'ste Funny here.

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Speaker 1: It's so special for you to come in and sort

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Speaker 1: so that the amused bouquet. It's out November fifteenth. You

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Speaker 1: And we just love you for always coming by and

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Speaker 4: Yes, so come for life.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna if you are ever out and you hear

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Speaker 1: and sudd really, Hey, yeah, I'm gonna give you the line.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Quen, great to see you back on Kiss