1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: Angie Martinez in Real Life Podcast. This episode and conversation 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: is powered by I Do Say. Hey guys, it's Angie here. 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: With the new Takeaway episode. We're going to talk about 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: our kill a mic episode. This week, we interviewed Killer Mike. 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: It's funny because we interviewed him right before the Grammys. 6 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 2: Yep. I wish we would have known how that was 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 2: gonna end out. 8 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: I was so happy for him when I saw, well, 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: except for the arrest that happened, but he breezed through 10 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: that real fast. 11 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 2: He seems to be fine. 12 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: Uh, and he definitely had a sweep and I know 13 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: it was a really exciting night for him. So congratulations 14 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: to him on his three Grammys. We were thrilled to 15 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: see that. But I love this episode. I think Mike 16 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: is so I don't know, see. First of all, he's 17 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: so smart, and he's so self aware, and he is 18 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: so comfortable in his own skin and his own life 19 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: and his own journey. You know, even even the way 20 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: he talks about some of really what some people could 21 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: probably have a hard time talking about, like his mom 22 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: and to commit suicide in front of him. He's so 23 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: comfortable with all parts of his life that he could 24 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: share that story so kind of freely. 25 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 3: He's comfortable with his emotions too. He doesn't mind crying. 26 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: He doesn't mind crying. 27 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: Then he's like so stoic at certain times at the 28 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: same time, but then he's he gives himself permission to 29 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: be vulnerable. 30 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: He says he's a crier. 31 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: He's very old school in a lot of ways in 32 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: terms of the man woman relationship and how the men 33 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: the man is to take care of the family and 34 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: the leader of the family. One of the things there's 35 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: a lot of things, a lot of takeaways from this episode. 36 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: And he's just really smart, and he's just one of 37 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: those people that when they talk, you want to listen 38 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: to him because you feel like he's got something. 39 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: He got some jewels in there that you want to 40 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 2: kind of hang on to. 41 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: But one of the first things I'll say that I 42 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: that I remember and it's stuck with me and is 43 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: a takeaway from me when he mentioned that everybody should 44 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: have friends that are different from you, who are different religion, 45 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 1: different political views, different race, because it helps us understand 46 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: each other. Yeah, it's like you know, you used to 47 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: We'll play the clip first of all. 48 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 4: That's why I encourage people to be a one on 49 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 4: one relationships with people who are not like them, Like 50 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 4: you need a one on one relationship with someone who's 51 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 4: not of your religion, not of your ethnic background, not 52 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 4: of even your political beliefs, because once you start to 53 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 4: know that person, you're going to start to find commonality. 54 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 4: And that commonality is going to make it less easy 55 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 4: for you to carry your pride, ego, bigotry, and prejudice 56 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 4: into situations with people. 57 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 5: From their community. 58 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're going to have to come in with an 59 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:43,399 Speaker 4: open mind and open. 60 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: Heart, especially with what's happening in the world right now. 61 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: Now that's exactly why I like that piece, because of 62 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: what's happening in the world right now, like everything is 63 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: set up to be separated. 64 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 2: Separated, polarizing. 65 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: You can't be a Democrat and feel a way about 66 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: a p litical issue that is aligned with them. You 67 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: can't be a Republican and feel like, hey, those Democrats 68 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: are right about that thing, Like it's the lines are 69 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: so deep in the sand that it really is, Like 70 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: it's just not a healthy way to live. Like we 71 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: should have empathy and see other people's perspectives whether we 72 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: agree with them or not, and It's funny because when 73 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: this episode went up, I did see a few comments 74 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: like he's not for gun control, you shouldn't talk to him, 75 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 1: and I'm like, Okay, Mike and I have very different 76 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: views on gun policy, completely different. Also, I was raised 77 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: in New York City. I have a very different perspective 78 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: about what guns do in communities and how they use 79 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: and how people are incarcerated for having them. He lived, 80 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: he grew up in a different place where other people 81 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: had guns, and it was important for him to also 82 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: have guns to protect himself. 83 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 2: So, yes, he has different views. I can disagree with 84 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 2: him and still learn a lot from him as a 85 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: human being. I can disagree with him, it's still very 86 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: much like him. And so yeah, when I saw some 87 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 2: of those comments, I mean, I didn't really make much 88 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 2: of it, but it really is. It's just a testament 89 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: to like how the world is set up right now, Like, 90 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: so if we only talk to people that we agree 91 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: with on every single thing, that is a small group 92 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 2: of people. 93 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 6: Well, progress doesn't happen from talking to people who think 94 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 6: similarly to you. 95 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: And then that part as well, So I like that 96 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: he said that, and it resonated with me, especially now 97 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: I just feel like anytime anybody has a view that 98 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: we all kind of like, eh, I don't know about that, 99 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: it's all of a sudden we write them off as 100 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: they're no good, right, They're not one of us, They're 101 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: on the other side, they're the enemy, and it's not 102 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: really the case man anyway. So that was one thing 103 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: that stuck with me of the many things that stuck 104 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: with me from this interview. I mean, obviously the story 105 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: about him his mother's addiction and how she you know, 106 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: she was battling, she was super sensitive and she was 107 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: an artist. Yeah, and he talks about her trying to 108 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: commit suicide in front of him and his sister, And 109 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: this made me sad. Where he talked about, you know, 110 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: from his his family, what he learned was like, why 111 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: should you expect life to not be hard? And it's 112 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: that mentality that kind of carries him through things. He 113 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: kind of just like, Okay, this is hard, I'm gonna 114 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: deal with it. I'm gonna go about my business. I'm 115 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: not gonna sit in I'm not gonna sit in sadness, 116 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: sit in trauma. There is something to be said about 117 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: that too, you know, It's like I get it. 118 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 6: He has a great rule about that though, Like he's like, 119 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 6: you let it all out, you cry, you grieve, you 120 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 6: do whatever you have to do, and then. 121 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 3: You get your ass. 122 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 2: Yea, he said. We don't ignore it. 123 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, we look at it, we deal with it, but 124 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 1: we gotta you gotta keep it, you gotta keep it moving. 125 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 6: He really gets tested in his life with that philosophy, because, 126 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 6: I mean, look what happened one of the biggest nights 127 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 6: of his life. He goes to the Grammy and at 128 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 6: the Grammys he arrested. Yeah, he gets arrested, but he 129 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 6: he he I really admire how whatever your religion is, 130 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 6: he is really rooted in his faith though he really 131 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 6: leans on on God to do that. After he got 132 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 6: arrested in the Grammys, he got an interviewed by GQ 133 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 6: after words, and they obviously were asking him about what happened, 134 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,239 Speaker 6: and he goes, look, this is his view on how 135 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 6: he was in the cell after. 136 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 3: Winning the Grammys. 137 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 6: I was glad that I had those three hours to 138 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 6: be thankful to God and to be calm and to meditate. 139 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 2: He's in a cell meditating. 140 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 6: Right, because the very next morning I got a call 141 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 6: that my child after being on the list for three years, 142 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 6: finally got his kidney, and I can just truly tell 143 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 6: you that God is real and the same way Christ 144 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 6: gave us an example of me being by himself, of 145 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 6: being whatever tempted by saying YadA YadA yadh. I'm just 146 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 6: so grateful. I'm grateful not only that I won, but 147 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 6: I'm grateful that God showed me within twenty four hours 148 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 6: that there's something more important than even the accolades that 149 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 6: you worked for, and that my family and my child. 150 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 3: I'm just thankful. I thank him. 151 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: No, that's a bar. Those are bars, all bars, all 152 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 2: bars God. You know me. 153 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: I always say that God will sit you down if 154 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: there's a lesson to learn in your life and you 155 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: get little taps on the shoulder. 156 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: And you don't pay attention them taps. 157 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: Get stronger, they get to push, they get yeah, they 158 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: do get to put I. 159 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 2: Really believe that. 160 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: I don't mean I don't think God is here to 161 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: make your life miserable, but I think He is here to, 162 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: you know, in your life, to teach you certain things 163 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: and when you're not learning them. Sometimes I do think 164 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: people need to be you know, you gotta sit down. 165 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: That felt like a moment like that for him at least, 166 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: it wasn't so harsh, like a subtle sit down for 167 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: him to appreciate, you know, what was real in his life. Yeah, Like, 168 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: that's that's pretty amazing. What are some of other other takeaways? 169 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: Let me think I like the idea about how he 170 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: manages his blended family too. You know, it's a lot 171 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: of people with blended families out here. There's always complications 172 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: in managing that. But he really believes deeply in like 173 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: and it's also again he's he was raised very different 174 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: than me. They have family reunions and the dad with 175 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: the four kids, it's from the difference. They're all there 176 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: and everybody's you know, expected to show up. There's a 177 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: very strong sense of family and history in his family, 178 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: and man, I respect that. I admire that. And I 179 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: know it's not always sweet, it's not always pretty. You know, 180 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: sometimes you do have to cut family if they're you know, toxic, 181 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: toxic or whatever, if they're just not. But I do 182 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: respect that. I do admire that they have that in 183 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: their family. I thought that was that was a dope 184 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: takeaway from me. It's really important for all the kids 185 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: to know each other. 186 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 187 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, he made that he made that clear, like put 188 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 6: whatever your ego and your issues to the side for 189 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 6: this one day, but better know each other. 190 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: If I'm being honest, I haven't always operated like I 191 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: don't really operate like that for me, but doesn't mean 192 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: I can't admire that for somebody else. I do operate 193 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: it in some sense, Like my son has brothers and 194 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: they're my god kids at this point. My family so 195 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: close with them, so we do operate in that sense, 196 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: but I don't force it. If there's a long distance 197 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: family member that I haven't seen, we don't really see 198 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: eye to eye. I'm okay with I'm over here and 199 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: you're over there. 200 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 3: Well, it takes both parties to come to that agreement. 201 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 2: That's true. That's true. I also just feel like life 202 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 2: is short, man. But that's just me, you know what 203 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 2: I'm saying. 204 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: That's just me growing up in the one bedroom apartment 205 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 1: in New York. Yeah, yeah, that's my experience. Like we're 206 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: all trying to just survive, and your immediate family is 207 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: your tribe, whereas the way he grew up, the extended 208 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: family is the tribe. The history of that family is 209 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: their tribe. And I really I do admire that what 210 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: do you got. 211 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 6: I really appreciate we talk about a lot of deep 212 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 6: traumas on here, but I appreciate Mike talking about a 213 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 6: moment where he was laughing through pain. 214 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: You know. 215 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 2: I love that laughter through tears my favorite emotion. 216 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 6: But he has a funny story that he tells, and 217 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 6: I'll play this clip. 218 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 4: My mama and I had. My mommy, Denise had one 219 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 4: of the biggest arguments ever after my grandmother. She's always 220 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 4: something I hit me so hard wearing limousine, Sorry, my 221 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 4: mom My autistic uncle. Me, my autistic uncle who thinks 222 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 4: he's like my big uncle still, and he's trying to 223 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 4: call you. He'll call me four times a day. I'm 224 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 4: checking on you. Don't you let nobody use you, don't 225 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 4: you know? And I'm just like, okay, yes, sir, Oh gotcha. 226 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 4: She was like, God, damn it, I can't even more 227 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 4: my mama right, and my uncle's trying to give it. 228 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 4: She says, shut up. I didn't have to fight for 229 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 4: you my whole life your hands. I'm fighting as we 230 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 4: kids from people beating on you, and I'm just like, 231 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 4: oh shit. So in the moment of sadness, I am 232 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 4: bothering laughing, just like, this is fucking amazing. And finally 233 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 4: I'm trying to interject with her, like, Mama, you can't 234 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 4: do you shut the fuck up too, my mom My, 235 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 4: mama should have died with me. I wouldn't. And I'm 236 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 4: just thinking, what the fuck I'm like, I didn't want 237 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 4: to be on death duty. I didn't want to be. 238 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 4: And she says, you don't understand. You think your mama died, 239 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 4: but that was my mom. When I die, You're gonna 240 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 4: understand the feeling I have. And I just thought myself 241 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 4: the fuck out because so now it's me hers arguing 242 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 4: over my grandmother the most. Oh, it is divine comedy 243 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 4: at this point. 244 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: And there's a linement it's Still Magnolias that laughter through 245 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: tears is like the best emotion. 246 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty great. That's pretty great. I do love that. 247 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 4: Really. 248 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: I always tell you about that quote from Still Magnolias, 249 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: but it really is like, when you want to cry, 250 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: if you can find a way to laugh and to 251 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: be honest, you don't want to fake laugh, but if 252 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: you can find an honest way to just find some 253 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: type of humor or something to make you feel okay 254 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 1: in a moment that could otherwise be heavy and wear 255 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: you down. It really is a beautiful thing. 256 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 6: It's the light at the end of the tunnel, like, yeah, 257 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 6: you're still light, there's still light even in the darkness. 258 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: Yes, that's absolutely what it does. And also this just 259 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: keeps coming up this episode. Last episode we had Melissa 260 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: Ford and just the connection between mother and child. Yeah, 261 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, we're blessed that our moms are 262 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: still here. 263 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 2: But it does make me. You already talked about how 264 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 2: you appreciate your mom more. 265 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: Okay, I have been looking at my mom too, like, okay, mom, 266 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: let's go to the gym. Let's go to them and 267 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: make sure she's healthy and living. And I mean my 268 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: mom's young and fit, thank god. And I mean, you 269 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: know so, but this has come up, like just how 270 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: how much it shifts people when you when you lose 271 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: a parent, when you lose a mother, especially. 272 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 6: It was interesting from my perspective too, because if you're 273 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 6: like Latino, you're black, what happens is your grandmother and 274 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 6: you have a young mom. The grandmother steps in and 275 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 6: really acts as the mom. So sometimes your mother ends 276 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 6: up being more like a sibling or feeling that way. 277 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 6: Than your actual mother, and but she's still your mother, yeah, 278 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 6: at the end of the day, and he still felt 279 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 6: that when she was gone, And man, God bless him. 280 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 6: I really appreciated him showing up because I know he 281 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 6: wanted to cancel because he actually just lost a family 282 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 6: member the day of the interview, and he thought to himself, 283 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 6: would she want him to be there? And he showed 284 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 6: up in the middle of that pain. And it's weird too, 285 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 6: because when he walked in, I did feel some energy 286 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 6: from him, and I just thought maybe he was having 287 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 6: a day, or he was busy, or he was like 288 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 6: I mean, he shook it off. He was he wasn't 289 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 6: remote or anything, but he just seemed in his own 290 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 6: head a little bit. And the fact that he still 291 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 6: showed up, I thought I appreciated that from him. So, yeah, 292 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 6: you just never know what people are going through, man, 293 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 6: any time, And I thank Mike for sharing his story. 294 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 6: Those are just a couple of the takeaways. Honestly, there 295 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 6: was so much in this episode, so much. There's great 296 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 6: takeaways about waiting for your moment, and again we have 297 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 6: the theme of like enjoying your journey. Mike's been doing 298 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 6: music for decades and he's finally getting this big moment 299 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 6: of celebration. He made that great Grammy speech about you know, 300 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 6: it's never too late. 301 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 2: There's great. Yeah, Mike, Yeah, Mike, I love that. 302 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: You know me, I've been on my Martha Stewart started 303 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: her business at fifty Okay, Martha's started her business. It 304 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: is a billion dollar company. Martha Stewart's company. She started 305 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: that at fifty years old. That is the great that 306 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: right now, this is the big agent time of my life. 307 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 1: I hold on to that. I'm trying to start all 308 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: kinds of new businesses in the next couple of hours, 309 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 1: as we will the next couple of years. 310 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 2: So yeah, so it's never too late. 311 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: He had actually his MIC's takeaway from this episode and 312 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 1: when he hope people got out of it was very similar. 313 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 2: Let's let's end with that. So looking at your life 314 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 2: in real life, like what do you hope people take from. 315 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 5: Your life and your story at the end of the day, 316 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 5: Oh Man, ain't nothing impossible. Oh Man, little black buck 317 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 5: tooth boy from the West side of Atlanta. Man has 318 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 5: grown to be one of the most influential people on 319 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 5: social level. Is going to be a business person that's 320 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 5: going to make his family proud, has figured out blending 321 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 5: his big family kids who ain't got the same mamas. 322 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 5: And you know, it's just nothing's impossible, but you gotta 323 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 5: get up every day. And my team says this, they 324 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 5: put one foot in front of the other, wishing for 325 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 5: it is not enough. If you want to see the 326 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 5: world change, start with the street you live on. You know, 327 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 5: if we all do a little bit, no one has 328 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 5: to do a lot. You've got to plot, playing, strategize, organized, 329 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 5: vobilize and every step of you know it did just 330 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 5: on the personal when I'm learning it's may my grandma, 331 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 5: take care of yourself first, be selfish with yourself, selfish. 332 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: Words talk that talk Mike killer, Mike Michael, as he 333 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: likes to be called. Okay, if you haven't seen the 334 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: interview yet, you will not regret it. There's more to 335 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: it than what we just discussed. Those were just some 336 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: of our takeaways, like we like to do it after 337 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: every one of our interviews. So feel free to go 338 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: check out the interview. You can listen to it right here, 339 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: you can watch it on my YouTube page Andrew Martinez IRL. 340 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: And we'll be back next week. Thank you guys so 341 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: much for checking out the episode, make sure you subscribe 342 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: and we'll see you on the next one. 343 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 2: Bye.