WEBVTT - David Harsanyi - WW3 Scare Mongering

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<v Speaker 1>On this episode, we have our friend David Harsanyi joining.

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<v Speaker 1>David is a senior editor at The Federalist. David, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for being here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's my pleasure. Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Just I want to do your your thoughts on what

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen so far from the American media as it

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<v Speaker 1>relates to the Israel Hamas war. I mean, the New

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<v Speaker 1>York Times obviously ran with that Hamas propaganda story about

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred killed that was totally false. Have they started

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<v Speaker 1>to pull back a little bit on the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>pro Palestinian pro Hamas stuff. What do you see happening?

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<v Speaker 3>I think they've pulled back in a sense, in the

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<v Speaker 3>sense of not being so obvious about it, but I

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<v Speaker 3>think subtly, you know, it's worse right God, Gaza Ministry

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<v Speaker 3>of Health is constantly being quoted. Their numbers are constantly

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<v Speaker 3>being you know, given, and they'll say, you know, they'll

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<v Speaker 3>they'll they'll preface it by saying that they're you know

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<v Speaker 3>that this is the Gaza side of things. But they

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<v Speaker 3>don't explain that this is the Hamas side of things.

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<v Speaker 3>You know that they that they Thatjmasque couldn't possibly know

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<v Speaker 3>how many people died, you know, within a few you know,

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<v Speaker 3>minutes of a bomb exploding. But more than that, it's

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<v Speaker 3>just the usual editorial paid stuff that I think is

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<v Speaker 3>the worst. I mean, you know, just pro Hamas people

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<v Speaker 3>on these staffs. It's very clear justifying murder, justifying and

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<v Speaker 3>hiding basically, and this happens in news stories as well,

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<v Speaker 3>hiding what these protesters are really about. How they have

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<v Speaker 3>genocidal slogans, you know, how they are anti Semitic, not

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<v Speaker 3>anti Israel, not critics of Israel and not critics of Palestine,

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<v Speaker 3>pro Hamas, and uh, you know, it's pretty much radicalized

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<v Speaker 3>me to to where I just hope they all go

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<v Speaker 3>out of business. I mean, I don't think there's any

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<v Speaker 3>saving this industry. They side with the most you know,

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<v Speaker 3>evil people. They you know, set them on the same

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<v Speaker 3>moral plane as people who defend their citizens. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think there's any anything worth saving when you have people

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<v Speaker 3>doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>And in terms of the demands for cease fire, how

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<v Speaker 1>do you assess, like what one thing that I'm always

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<v Speaker 1>curious about is how long would that cease fire, even

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<v Speaker 1>if it were agreed to? How long would that last?

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<v Speaker 1>And what's the difference between demanding an indefinite ceasefire after

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<v Speaker 1>a massive terror sneak attack and saying they don't actually

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<v Speaker 1>have a right to defend themselves like this. This is

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<v Speaker 1>where I start to wonder if people are being honest

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<v Speaker 1>at all in what they're even saying they want.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I think that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>Ceasefire means Hamas will get off, get away with it again,

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<v Speaker 3>and exist after this. I don't think any normal country

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<v Speaker 3>any moral any country and country that had an attack

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<v Speaker 3>like this would have a moral imperative to destroy the

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<v Speaker 3>people who did it. You know, you know the Twin

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<v Speaker 3>Towers fell. I know that we did a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>things wrong after that, But the American people would never

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<v Speaker 3>have stood for a government that said, now we're not

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<v Speaker 3>going to go after al Qaeda, Let's have a ceasefire now.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that is insane. And the Israeli government is

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<v Speaker 3>an elected government. It now has a unity government left

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<v Speaker 3>and right, and they want to dismantle this terror state

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<v Speaker 3>that's right on their border, and every civilian who dies there.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a tragedy, but that tragedy is caused by Hamas,

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<v Speaker 3>initially because they were put into power by these people,

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<v Speaker 3>but be more importantly because they put these people in

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<v Speaker 3>the way of danger. And Israel does the best it

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<v Speaker 3>can not to punish civilians. But proportionality doesn't mean that

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<v Speaker 3>no civilian can die. People don't know what proportionality means.

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<v Speaker 3>If we had a proportional fight here, Israel would go

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<v Speaker 3>rape and kill children and women.

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<v Speaker 2>But they don't.

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<v Speaker 3>They're trying to dismantle the people who attack them, completely

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<v Speaker 3>legitimate under international law and under the moral law that

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<v Speaker 3>any normal civilized nation lives under.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think the end state should be here

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<v Speaker 1>of this fight? I you know, what is victory in

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<v Speaker 1>this conflict against Hamas? What does that look like in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of what's left in Gaza, what's left of Hamas,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, I don't think there's any really good victory here.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an intractable problem caused by mistakes of the past.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that the Israelis have made and obviously that

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<v Speaker 3>the Palestinians continue to make. I don't think that removing

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<v Speaker 3>Hamas will all of a sudden make the Palestinian people,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, open to having a Switzerland there or open

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<v Speaker 3>to like, you know, being part of a peaceful pact

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<v Speaker 3>with Israel. So I don't know where it leads, and

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think there's going to be any good victory. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>the Jordanians and the Egyptians don't want to help. They,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they don't want Palestinians in their country as

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<v Speaker 3>refugees either. They have their own problems. And Gaza Hamasa's

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<v Speaker 3>is basically the Muslim Brotherhood. And in Jordan there's a

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<v Speaker 3>Palestinian majority because there's already a Palestinian state there ruled

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<v Speaker 3>by a minority. So it's a really bad problem for Israel,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm not sure it can be fixed. I think

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<v Speaker 3>it could be managed to some extent, but I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know that there's a victory in the sense that you

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<v Speaker 3>know you're going to have peace there.

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<v Speaker 1>and many more. There seems to be a little problem

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<v Speaker 1>the Democrat Party. H David the kind of old line

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<v Speaker 1>or old guard Democrats like Joe Biden and you know

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<v Speaker 1>Pelosi and Schumer. They're in general supportive of Israel, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they still say, like, don't do war crimes,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're worried about Islamophobia, like they they hedge a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, but in general their supportive of Israel. But

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<v Speaker 1>then you have you know, the Rashida Talib wing and

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<v Speaker 1>the squad and some of the far left of the

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<v Speaker 1>Democrat Party or straight up anti Semites and are rooting

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<v Speaker 1>for Hamas and all this. How does that How does

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<v Speaker 1>that play out? Now? I mean, You've got a Democrat

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<v Speaker 1>Party that it seems like is going to have to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out what it really stands for on this or

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<v Speaker 1>there could be some people that get primary.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I think they're in a tough spot. Biden,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, he says all the right things, and he

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<v Speaker 3>supports Israel to some extent I would call it Obama

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<v Speaker 3>level support basically. You know, So he sends Jack lou

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<v Speaker 3>as ambassador, who is an Iran deal booster who made

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<v Speaker 3>It's not a fault for what happened, but it's part

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<v Speaker 3>of the problem. Right at least he bear some responsibility

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<v Speaker 3>people who pass the Iran Deal push the Iran Deal.

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<v Speaker 3>And then on the other hand, so that makes like

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<v Speaker 3>the AOC faction really angry, and Progressive is really angry.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, his rhetoric makes them angry, but his actions

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<v Speaker 3>are probably making pro Israel people angry in the Democratic

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<v Speaker 3>Party as well. So I think he's going to I

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<v Speaker 3>think this is a disaster for him. I think the party,

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<v Speaker 3>when you look at it and divide it by age

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<v Speaker 3>groups and generationally, it's heading in one direction.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very clear what the trajectory is. To me.

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<v Speaker 3>I see it on college campuses. I see, you know

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<v Speaker 3>at Harvard where you have the head of the you know,

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<v Speaker 3>what is it the law of you out there basically

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<v Speaker 3>physically trying to intimidate Jewish kids. I see where that's

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<v Speaker 3>all headed. I'm not you know, you don't have to

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<v Speaker 3>be a genius to see it. And that's the future

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<v Speaker 3>of the Democratic Party, not not the old line people.

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<v Speaker 3>It's obviously an age thing, so that's another thing. It's

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<v Speaker 3>headed in a really bad direction. And obviously maybe I'm

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<v Speaker 3>being a little bit dramatic about it, but I see

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<v Speaker 3>like these are the steps.

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<v Speaker 2>That head towards some kind of violence.

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<v Speaker 3>To me, Like, you know, I feel there's a threatening

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<v Speaker 3>air about all these protests.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're Jewish, I think you feel it.

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<v Speaker 3>But if even if you're not, you should there's a

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<v Speaker 3>threatening air to it, and sooner or later it gets

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<v Speaker 3>to a point where you know, you've got to start

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<v Speaker 3>worrying about violence, and in that you know, I know

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<v Speaker 3>that's not exactly what you asked me, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>in general, I think things are headed in a bad

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<v Speaker 3>direction for Democrats. Yeah, and so I think it's a

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<v Speaker 3>problem for them.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, how much of Israel Palestine or Israel Hamas you

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<v Speaker 1>know that this conflict we're seeing right now in the

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<v Speaker 1>US left wing version of the discourse, I mean, the

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<v Speaker 1>people refer to it as anti colonial lot but it

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<v Speaker 1>seems to me that this is viewed on American college

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<v Speaker 1>campuses in particular as a race war effectively, and that

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<v Speaker 1>you have white Israel versus brown Palestine. Do you see

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<v Speaker 1>that as well? I mean, is that more so than

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<v Speaker 1>even a religious conflict? From what I can see, that

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<v Speaker 1>they view this in racial terms first and foremost.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you nailed it, that's how they see it, which

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<v Speaker 3>is so idiotic. I can't even explain to anyone who's

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<v Speaker 3>been to Israel knows the Sephardic Jews and many Jews

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<v Speaker 3>who came from Arab places look just like Arabs. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not there's a color like half the country. There are

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<v Speaker 3>people there are Jews from Africa who are Israeli citizens.

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<v Speaker 3>It's you know, it's not about color, but it is

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<v Speaker 3>about to them and how they view race. It is,

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<v Speaker 3>so I think you're right. So when we see people

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<v Speaker 3>like queer Surpalasin, everyone's like, that's a joke. Go to Gaza.

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<v Speaker 3>See what happens. They don't get it. It's they're an ally.

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<v Speaker 3>They have the same enemies Western civilization, America, Israel, the

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<v Speaker 3>constant to shin freedom, how we see freedom. Those are

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<v Speaker 3>their enemies, their allies, the same way we had to

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<v Speaker 3>ally with the Soviet Union to fight Nazis. You know

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying, Like they don't want to live together.

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<v Speaker 3>They just hate the same people, so their allies and

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<v Speaker 3>they see it. You know, the whole intersectionality, the identitarian stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>the decolonization stuff, it's all going to lead to anti

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<v Speaker 3>Semitic posture. The whole anti Zionism thing, which is just

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<v Speaker 3>an you know, an euphemism for Jew started in the

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<v Speaker 3>Soviet Union. It was a Soviet way of being anti Semitic,

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<v Speaker 3>and these people have just picked it up Angela Davis

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<v Speaker 3>used to do this in the seventies and now she's

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<v Speaker 3>you know, she was a fringe figure then and now

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<v Speaker 3>she's a hero of the left.

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<v Speaker 2>She was one of the you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, she marched with the Women's March and BLM and

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<v Speaker 3>all that. They love her, and they're all all those

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<v Speaker 3>groups I just mentioned have the same outlook on Jews.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it's it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely how they see it as a racial war and

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<v Speaker 3>they see Jews as on the wrong side of that divide.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Come back in a second and get into David. Some

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, I wonder if this is going to

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<v Speaker 1>change any political alignments. I'm kind of curious if you

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<v Speaker 1>think that will actually happen. We'll get to that in

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<v Speaker 1>Com paid for by wide Mote Research. So a conversation

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<v Speaker 1>that we've been having on the radio show I've been

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<v Speaker 1>having David is he's wondering aloud whether there will be there,

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<v Speaker 1>whether there's been a red pilling of the American Jewish

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<v Speaker 1>community over this in terms of the right is with

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<v Speaker 1>them pretty just consistently uniformly Israel's right defend itself, Israel

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<v Speaker 1>should go after hamas Democrats are a little split. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think that will affect voting at all in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four or is this just Is it still likely

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<v Speaker 1>that Democrats will get about sixty to sixty five percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the Jewish vote in the next election.

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<v Speaker 2>Not sure.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm very skeptical that that's going to happen. Maybe on

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<v Speaker 3>the margins. I actually think the Arab vote and the

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<v Speaker 3>progressive anti Israel vote is probably more important for them

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<v Speaker 3>in that conversation. Actually though, and this sounds horrible, and

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<v Speaker 3>I don't mean it to sound horrible, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Jews are still a big part of the philith you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the fundraising aspect of this and stuff like that. Jews

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<v Speaker 3>are important in the Democratic Party. So there's this, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>fight between those two. But I mean, I'm skeptical it's

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<v Speaker 3>going to change anything. I saw the dean or the

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<v Speaker 3>dean of the Berkeley Law School said, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I can't believe this is happening. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's anti Semitism within the left. You know Berkeley last

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<v Speaker 3>year they had a Jew free zone students some students

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<v Speaker 3>set up they won't invite Zionists you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>wink wink to appear at their events. I think eleven

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<v Speaker 3>groups have banned them. So the idea that this is

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<v Speaker 3>new to them or that they didn't see it coming,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm pretty skeptical of that as well. So I think

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<v Speaker 3>as soon as Donald Trump's back on the stage and

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<v Speaker 3>says something.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't like.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, religious Jews are different, I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>or like even modern Orthodox Jews, I think might be

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit different. And they were already split and

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<v Speaker 3>vote Republican in some decent numbers, But when it comes

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<v Speaker 3>to the reform jew or or or even farther to

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<v Speaker 3>the left, they've created a fate. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>say that they've created a religious disposition that is basically

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<v Speaker 3>completely in tune with socialistic ideas.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not going to change just because of this. To them, abortion,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Redistribution of wealth is much more important, more religiously important

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<v Speaker 3>to them than the state of Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>So to me, I don't see a huge change there. Frankly,

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<v Speaker 2>do you.

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<v Speaker 1>Think that this conflict is going to broaden beyond Israel

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<v Speaker 1>and Jimas or you think it's likely to stay pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much within that sphere. And people are talking about Iran,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, the Houthis and Yemen fire and off

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<v Speaker 1>some missiles to make some noise, US personnel being attacked

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<v Speaker 1>in Syria and Iraq by she and militia's proxies of Iran.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your take on where you see it going.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's some scare mongering here that there's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be World War three. It's like Russia is going to

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<v Speaker 3>get into a fight, you know, with Israel and Hamas,

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<v Speaker 3>or even Iran, I don't think, or Syria. But I

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<v Speaker 3>mean there's a danger because if you're a country like Israel,

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<v Speaker 3>Hamas did this, they killed a bunch of your citizens.

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<v Speaker 3>They had logistical and financial assistance from another country. That

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<v Speaker 3>is an act of war. That would be an act

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<v Speaker 3>of war. If someone did that to us, that would

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<v Speaker 3>be an act of war. And I don't know how

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<v Speaker 3>Israel can just keep sitting around and letting Iran and

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<v Speaker 3>its proxies. I mean, you have hez Ball on the

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<v Speaker 3>northern border. They have real scary missiles, not you know,

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<v Speaker 3>homemade missiles. They can do some extreme damage, and they're

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<v Speaker 3>constantly threatening and talking about eliminating the country. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know how long they can allow that to happen. And

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<v Speaker 3>obviously Iran wants nuclear weapons. Imagine if they had a

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<v Speaker 3>nuke right now, how this looks like. It's a completely

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<v Speaker 3>different and dangerous situation. So I don't know, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know what's going to happen. But you know, Iran has

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<v Speaker 3>also killed thirty America helped kill thirty Americans. Iran has

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<v Speaker 3>also killed I don't know if you remember this, but

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<v Speaker 3>they killed like six hundred soldiers in Iraq.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I was in Iraq when Iran was killing

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<v Speaker 1>those soldiers by putting the EFPs on the side of

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<v Speaker 1>the road to punch through our vehicles. They were just

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<v Speaker 1>killing Americans. That's Iran. They just viewed that as some

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<v Speaker 1>strategic imperative to killing name as many American soldiers as

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<v Speaker 1>they can. So I'm yeah, no, no, I was gonna say.

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<v Speaker 1>It was why I was so supported of when Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>When Trump decided to turn the head of the i

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<v Speaker 1>ERGYC you know, solemoney head of the irgc coods force

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<v Speaker 1>into a into a dust cloud. I thought that was

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<v Speaker 1>an excellent move actually, And.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm not saying America should be in a war

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<v Speaker 3>with Iran or anything like that. However, I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>that America should want to sit by and allow this

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<v Speaker 3>sort of thing to go on with its citizens either.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, you know everyone's work. It's not like

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<v Speaker 3>we want to drop boots on me. It's not like

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<v Speaker 3>we're on a nation building expedition to Iran.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not going to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>We are a true people underestimate how how powerful we are.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm not saying that we should be bullying people,

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<v Speaker 3>but people attack us should have to pay some kind

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<v Speaker 3>of price. And I'm not a warminder, I'm not a neocon,

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<v Speaker 3>but I mean I don't know how long that can

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<v Speaker 3>go on either, And uh so we'll see. So my

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<v Speaker 3>answer to that question is, I'm not sure, but I

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<v Speaker 3>doubt you know, we're on the cusp of World War

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<v Speaker 3>three or and.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of see the same way you do. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been telling people this notion that Iran, like Iran, is

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<v Speaker 1>just going to escalate, and then I mean, we can

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<v Speaker 1>do so much moredamage to Iran in this escalation that

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<v Speaker 1>they can do to us that it's they have to

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<v Speaker 1>take that into account as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean, I mean Israel has nukes, right.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, and Israel has submarines in the Indian Ocean

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<v Speaker 3>that can fire at Iran, like you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if people realize that Israel has a conventional army.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty scary, you know, if it really wants it

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<v Speaker 2>to be. And anyway, yeah, no, I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>Over at the.

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<v Speaker 3>Federalist, I just wrote a piece on jacklu who is

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<v Speaker 3>the ambassador named the Ambassador to Israel. He's a corrupt dude.

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<v Speaker 3>He's kind of an Obamas leftover stooge, and he is

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<v Speaker 3>a terrible person to send over there for us.

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<v Speaker 1>Why they pick him.

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<v Speaker 2>He said it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean he's and CNN I saw had a piece

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<v Speaker 3>saying it. I mean, he's there to inhibit Israel from

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<v Speaker 3>doing what it needs to do in Gaza, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, using this it's a blood liabel, by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>to keep telling Israel that they're you know, he's making

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<v Speaker 3>sure Israel is not going to commit, you know, acts

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<v Speaker 3>against civilians and so on. Israel doesn't do that already

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<v Speaker 3>any more than any other Western country. And so I

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<v Speaker 3>think they sent him there because they want Israel not

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<v Speaker 3>to go into Gaza.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically, I think it's too late for that.

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<v Speaker 1>David Arsan everybody look for his latest at the Federalist

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. David, my friend. I always appreciate you joining.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for being here anytime. Thanks for having me