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Speaker 1: It's the final countdown. Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show,

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Speaker 1: Danny Surrek joins me. Four games left, two at home,

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Speaker 1: two on the road, two against the division, and all

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Speaker 1: are important for a number of players. When we start

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Speaker 1: looking ahead to next season, the coaches won't look ahead,

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Speaker 1: but we will also the latest from practice and some

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Speaker 1: news from the league meetings in Texas. It's Cardinals Cover two,

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Speaker 1: Episode seven oh nine, and it starts now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 1: Budda Baker, What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: He's at the ten half of five. He's it again,

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Speaker 1: So more Harry Magic.

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Speaker 2: Whoa, here's Craig Griolude.

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Speaker 1: So nice of you to show up today.

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Speaker 3: Danny, thank you for noticing Craig.

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Speaker 1: By the way, That's not typically how you greet someone

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Speaker 1: after a.

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Speaker 3: You know what, Get over at Craig. I'll give the background,

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Speaker 3: I'll give them back.

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Speaker 1: I need to share with everyone.

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Speaker 3: I walked into the press conference room Wednesday morning, ahead

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Speaker 3: of hearing from head coach Jonathan Gannon, and not a

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Speaker 3: lot of people were in there yet. I was pretty

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Speaker 3: early and Craig was sitting there minding his own business

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Speaker 3: on his laptop, getting ready to kindly transcribe and put

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Speaker 3: time codes for the press conference for people in our

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Speaker 3: department to go back in reference. And I haven't seen

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Speaker 3: because there's not practice and there's not open locker room,

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Speaker 3: is at the coordinator's press conference, and I don't see

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Speaker 3: you because you are on live radio for Red Sea Report.

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Speaker 3: So I haven't seen you in a week, Craig. So

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Speaker 3: how else would you expect me to greet you other

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Speaker 1: That's what it sounded like to me, sounding rude, and

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Speaker 1: it did to everyone else.

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Speaker 3: Love, Creg. It was out of love. I knew you

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Speaker 3: were here. You're one of the hardest workers in our department.

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Speaker 3: We're very grateful for all that you do. Dedicated a

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Speaker 3: listener to all the podcasts. It's nice to see your.

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Speaker 1: Face again, okay, and that kind of makes up for

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Speaker 1: being kind of put in my place and feeling very

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Speaker 3: You're like six eight. I could never make you feel

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, when you're sitting next to or standing

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Speaker 1: you know, hey, when you're not around, it's easy to

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Speaker 1: take shots at your coworkers. By the way, I'm glad

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Speaker 1: you did have a good bye week. And before we

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Speaker 1: talk football, because we will talk football here on Cardinals

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Speaker 1: cover two presented by Hyundai, probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals,

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Speaker 1: I think we need to go back to how our

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Speaker 1: because I almost texted you during the bye week. I

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Speaker 1: texted you because we know you're disdain for people who

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Speaker 1: dress up their cars like reindeer. But I have a question.

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Speaker 3: The answer is yes, but ask the question anyway.

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Speaker 1: What about people who dress up like reindeer? Because I

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Speaker 3: Were they It wasn't like they were coming from some event.

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Speaker 4: No, they were in the grocery store. They were a

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Speaker 3: Honestly, I feel like if you're doing that kind of

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Speaker 3: It's like when somebody points something out to you and

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Speaker 3: I did get a picture, though, because our social media coordinator,

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Speaker 3: Now it's kind of all coming together because Q sent

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Speaker 1: I'm waiting for someone to decorate your new car like

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Speaker 3: It would be funny. But nobody knows what my new

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Speaker 1: Well, there's plenty of time. I don't know when the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's get to it here. Wednesday's practice. Let's

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Speaker 1: No Hollywood Brown. I'll all say this. As we walked

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Speaker 3: You know, Hollywood Brown spent an entire week not practicing

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Speaker 1: Gannon hasn't said as much, and no head coach is

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Speaker 1: going to. Gannon did sound optimistic about Hollywood's availability for

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Speaker 1: this week's game against the forty nine Ers, and again

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Speaker 1: it's Wednesday, there's still time, but seven straight practices, and

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Speaker 1: Yes they're good friends, but Hollywood has not had the

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Speaker 3: Part of that all year, I think is when you

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Speaker 3: concerned if Hollywood is not fully healthy. If rookie wide

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Speaker 1: Sunday, getting Michael Wilson back would be huge, not only

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Speaker 1: because of the birth of his child, but let's be honest,

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Speaker 1: to being available this week, as is Amari de Mericado

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Speaker 1: that neck injury that he suffered against the Steelers. But

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Speaker 3: The bye week came very low. Hey, the latest week

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Speaker 3: a team could have one does seem like it could

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Speaker 1: has already been made. He's not a part of your future.

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Speaker 1: The other player that I was I looked at because

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Speaker 1: at every level defensive line, linebacker, secondary, you could come

436
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Speaker 1: up with a handful of different players. But one I

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Speaker 1: circled was Cameron Thomas year three. From our perspective watching it,

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Speaker 1: he hasn't shown up a lot a ton. In fact,

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Speaker 1: he has no sacks, only one quarterback kit. Now, what

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Speaker 1: are the coach scene because is he being asked to

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Speaker 1: do something differently. Is he being double teamed? Is he

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Speaker 1: accepting more of the blocking to free up someone else

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Speaker 1: on the other side. Those are the interest intricacies that

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Speaker 1: we don't know, may never know. But Cameron Thomas here

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Speaker 1: in year two, he and my J Sanders were supposed

446
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Speaker 1: to be the future edge rushers for this team. Sanders

447
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Speaker 1: is no longer here. I don't know if Thomas is

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Speaker 1: going to be here next season, even though you've got

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Speaker 1: two more years of him on a four year rookie contract.

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Speaker 3: That was the name that popped up in my mind

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Speaker 3: was Cam Thomas at first, And especially when you have

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Speaker 3: a position room like that where you don't have a

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Speaker 3: lot of star power and it seems like everyone else

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Speaker 3: has been able to show up a little bit more

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Speaker 3: in games. You're right, there's more than just sack or

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Speaker 3: quarterback hits or pressures that show up to show that

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Speaker 3: you are making an impact in the game. But I'm

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Speaker 3: right there with you. That was the first player that

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Speaker 3: came to mind was Thomas in terms of having a

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Speaker 3: lot to prove these last few games.

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Speaker 1: He has shown the ability, especially in college a plane

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Speaker 1: inside and I know in recent conversations that he's had

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Speaker 1: with Paul Calvisi on the Big Red Rage. He has

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Speaker 1: said that he can get bigger, his body can fill out.

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Speaker 1: Maybe a potential position switch along the defensive line put

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Speaker 1: him in a three point stance. Because that defensive line,

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Speaker 1: I don't know who or who is not going to

468
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Speaker 1: be here next season. That could be in major flux

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Speaker 1: as well, like the wide receiver position. But I just

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Speaker 1: wonder within this defense, is there a position within this

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Speaker 1: defense is there room for Cameron Thomas, Especially again, if

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Speaker 1: you're not seeing him, whether that's in person at State

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Speaker 1: Farm Stadium or on television, I'm not hearing him his

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Speaker 1: name called by Dave pash Ron Wolfley. That's concerning when

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Speaker 1: you were expected to be something here in year two.

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Speaker 3: I think it's fair to make the assumption that that's

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Speaker 3: going to be a position that's going to be addressed

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Speaker 3: in the off season. You might have the utility players

479
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Speaker 3: or what you need in terms of having the right

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Speaker 3: type of potential in players like Xavin Collins who's only

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Speaker 3: in his first year as a pass rusher, or in

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Speaker 3: a rookie b jo Jalar. You're getting a lot more

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Speaker 3: out of Dennis Gardeck I still think you need a

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Speaker 3: true number one pass rusher that's going to take the

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Speaker 3: attention of your opponent. I would imagine that as an

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Speaker 3: area that is addressed in free agency. I'm not sure

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Speaker 3: that a rookie is going to be the right answer.

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Speaker 3: And I say this early in December, right, But that's

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Speaker 3: something else to consider is that's already kind of a

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Speaker 3: full room. And I think if you're gonna look for

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Speaker 3: somebody that you need to see a lot of these

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Speaker 3: last few games to show why they would deserve to

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Speaker 3: say if that's the room you need to trim because

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Speaker 3: you're going to address it with a veteran in the

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Speaker 3: off season, I think that's a name you could be

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Speaker 3: looking at.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Dennis Gardeck. He leads the Cardinals in

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Speaker 1: quarterback hits, quarterback pressures, quarterback hurries, quarterback knockdowns, and he

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Speaker 1: is not playing a ton of snaps, and we know

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Speaker 1: he can play special teams. But that is someone who

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Speaker 1: many of us last offseason felt and I'll raise my

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Speaker 1: hand potentially could be on the bubble as far as

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Speaker 1: an edge rusher because of my j Sanders, Cameron Thomas,

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Speaker 1: b jo joli is. Even Thomas moved to the outside

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Speaker 1: linebacker room. Where does Dennis Gardak fit Well? He fits

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Speaker 1: quite nicely. He has the respects of the coaches, and

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Speaker 1: Dennis Gardak is going to be here because of those

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Speaker 1: numbers that I just mentioned leading the team in all

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Speaker 1: of those categories.

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Speaker 3: Yeah wrong. I think he was on the bubble last year.

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Speaker 3: He just stepped up and showed what he's really capable of.

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Speaker 3: I think part of that, too is the coaching staff,

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Speaker 3: specifically Rob Rodriguez, their position coach, does a nice job

514
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Speaker 3: of finding the strengths, the individual strengths and coaching those

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Speaker 3: up of Gardak doesn't have the same physical traits as

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Speaker 3: a lot of other pass rushers, and they find a

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Speaker 3: way to make him a threat. Gardik also has some

518
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Speaker 3: of the best celebrations, so put that on his pros

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Speaker 3: list well.

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Speaker 1: And also, we need to practice your celebrations with Dennis Gardek,

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Speaker 1: because didn't he critique didn't you have a night? Not

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Speaker 1: a great critique?

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Speaker 3: Sidelin not when I hit the strobe, it was okay.

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Speaker 1: Just okay, just okay, we don't I.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't prepared, But I'll be prepared next time. You always

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Speaker 3: have to be he now, I learned my lesson. It

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Speaker 3: was a little embarrassing.

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Speaker 1: You never know when you're gonna get that tap on

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Speaker 1: the shoulder and say, Danny go In hit the strobe.

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Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of sideline exchange, this week's sideline exchange.

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Speaker 3: Is defensive lineman Jonathan Ledbetter, the Cardinals Walter Peyton Man

532
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Speaker 3: of the Year nominee for his extensive efforts in the community.

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00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 3: He was great. I mean you should have known if

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Speaker 3: you listened to his twenty minute press conference after receiving

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Speaker 3: that award, I mean you would know he was incredible

536
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Speaker 3: because that was just a spectacular conversation with the media.

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Speaker 3: We talked about this for forty nine ers matchup quite

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Speaker 3: a bit. Ledbetter didn't play in that Week four matchup.

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Speaker 3: He was out. The Cardinals defense really struggled. I mean

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Speaker 3: running back Christian McCaffrey ran all over them, which to say,

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Speaker 3: I mean McCaffrey does that with most teams in the league.

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Speaker 3: It's impossible to stop him. You have to find a

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Speaker 3: way to limit him. McCaffrey had one hundred and six

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Speaker 3: rushing seventy six receiving yards in four touchdowns. He was

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Speaker 3: a dual threat, and we talked about how you have

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Speaker 3: to try and limit a player like McCaffrey and prevent

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Speaker 3: those explosive plays not just on the ground in the air.

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Speaker 3: This forty nine Ers team is a balanced offense. We

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Speaker 3: saw it when wide receiver Brandon Ayuk had no problem

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Speaker 3: getting the ball and getting those extra yards against the

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Speaker 3: Cardinals back in Week four in San Francisco. Quarterback brock

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Speaker 3: Perty has the best completion percentage in the league. I mean,

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Speaker 3: this is a very balanced offense. And we talked about

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Speaker 3: what it takes to have a cohesive defensive outing of

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Speaker 3: stopping the run, defending the pass, and the communication that takes.

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Speaker 3: We talked about the Walter Payton Man of the Year

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Speaker 3: nomination and his mom a little bit. I'm not sure

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Speaker 3: if you've seen the photos. I seen the photos, and

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Speaker 3: when we travel and I'm on the sideline pregame for radio,

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Speaker 3: I yes, yeah. So Ledbetter's mom, who he said is

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Speaker 3: his rock, was the first person he called after getting

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Speaker 3: the nomination, started making fat heads of Ledbetter. You know

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Speaker 3: the big poster of jo justah head. They're so fun

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Speaker 3: to see. And then after seeing them, Lucky Fotu went

565
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Speaker 3: to Ledbetter and said, hey, I want one. So is

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Speaker 3: mom made one for Lucky and then josh Woods goes

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Speaker 3: to led Better and says, Hey, I know I'm a linebacker,

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Speaker 3: but can I get my own fat head? So what

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Speaker 3: do you know? Ledbetter's mom has the fat head of himself,

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Speaker 3: of Lucky, Foto and Joshua. So we were talking about

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Speaker 3: who's on the list and who's going to get a

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Speaker 3: fat head.

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Speaker 1: It's got to be you.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's a good idea. Maybe maybe if his mom

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00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 3: watches the sideline Exchange interview on our official website on

576
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Speaker 3: Easycardinals dot com or official YouTube channel, maybe she will

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Speaker 3: make a fat head.

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Speaker 1: We need to make a picture. We need to make

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Speaker 1: that happen.

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Speaker 3: Send her DM.

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Speaker 1: We are two road games left, Chicago, Philadelphia. He can

582
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Speaker 1: you be at home, It doesn't really matter.

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Speaker 3: Just send her a good picture.

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Speaker 1: That would be awesome. If I run into Ledbetter the

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Speaker 1: next couple of days before this week'scape, we have to

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Speaker 1: bring that up.

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Speaker 3: It. It was good to chat with him. He said

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Speaker 3: he had a good, a goodbye week. He went home

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Speaker 3: to Georgia, got to see some family, said he played

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Speaker 3: Santo with like his nephews, and you know, got to

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Speaker 3: give them some gifts and have a good time with them.

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Speaker 1: That's great sideline exchange. This week, Jonathan Ledbetter on all

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Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals social media channels as well as

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Speaker 1: Azycardinals dot Com. Before we head on out of here,

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Speaker 1: some non Cardinals news that potentially could affect the Arizona

596
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Speaker 1: Cardinals league meetings in Texas. Danny, you should have just

597
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: stayed in the state of Texas and covered the two

598
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Speaker 1: days with the owners. But some news coming out of it.

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Speaker 1: The Super Bowl sixty one in twenty twenty seven, So

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Speaker 1: we've got Las Vegas this year, then New Orleans, San Francisco,

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Speaker 1: and then Super Bowl sixty one in LA once again.

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Speaker 1: They just had it in twenty twenty two. So twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty seven super Bowl in LA.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you can only do so many places, I guess.

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Speaker 3: And for those older I was gonna say, those older

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Speaker 3: stadiums like Lambeau that are open, they're not. They're not

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Speaker 3: going to want to do a Super Bowl in February

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Speaker 3: there unless it's got a roof. And I don't know,

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Speaker 3: it's just maybe I'm just not a big LA person.

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Speaker 3: Like SOFI is beautiful, don't get me wrong, it's great state.

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Speaker 3: It is amaze to maneuver as a media member getting

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Speaker 3: up and down. So yeah, that's kind of that's kind

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Speaker 3: of how I feel about that is okay, how.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel about?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 1: One is your passport updated?

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Speaker 3: See?

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Speaker 1: Okay. There is going to be an international game in

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Speaker 1: Brazil in twenty twenty four, first ever game in South America.

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Speaker 1: According to SI's Albert Breer. The home team will be

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Speaker 1: an NFC team. Apparently the Cowboys are the odds on favorite.

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Speaker 1: But you're gonna be having international games next year in Brazil,

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Speaker 1: three games in England including the Jaguars home game, and

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Speaker 1: one in Germany.

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Speaker 3: It's exciting. Are the Cardinals eligible at that point to

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Speaker 3: go international again starting next year?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: They don't know how they did. The rotation is just

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Speaker 3: having played in Mexico City last.

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Speaker 1: Year, but even better, in twenty twenty five, there are

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Speaker 1: going to be as many as eight international games, plus

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars annual home game in London. But that's when

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five. According to what I read and

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Speaker 1: saw on Wednesday, Mexico in twenty twenty five rejoins the rotation,

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Speaker 1: and everyone's expecting Spain to be the new country added

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Speaker 1: to the mix.

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Speaker 3: So interesting I saw online that Brazil, I guess, is

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Speaker 3: the third largest NFL market behind the US in Mexico,

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Speaker 3: which was pretty interesting. I mean it's online, right, so

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Speaker 3: what the trust? But that would be exciting. I have

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Speaker 3: you ever been to Brazil. I've never been to South America.

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Speaker 1: I have not.

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Speaker 3: I would go.

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Speaker 1: My international travel is fairly limited, yeah, very limited.

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Speaker 3: Well maybe you'll get to go to Brazil.

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Speaker 1: That would be phenomenal. Now we've got to pay attention

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Speaker 1: to figure out, you know, like next season's opponents in

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Speaker 1: the rotation for home and away and right the potential Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so potentially three chances at England, one Germany with.

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Speaker 3: All of those too. Honestly, be nice, nice little vacation.

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Speaker 3: Not a vacation, you're working. A nice little trip, I

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Speaker 3: should say.

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Speaker 1: But time to sight see and kind of in you know, would.

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Speaker 3: Also be a fun trip. If we have enough players

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Speaker 3: go into the Pro Bowl in Florida. Cardinals fans can

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Speaker 3: vote for Pro Bowl players on Ezycardinals dot com. It's

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Speaker 3: on the homepage. It's the votes are a third fans,

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Speaker 3: a third coaches, and the third players.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Trey McBride showed up among the tight

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Speaker 1: ends as far as top ten in fan voting. He's

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Speaker 1: the only Cardinals player among the top ten in fan

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Speaker 1: voting at any position. He's eighth among tight ends fifth

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Speaker 1: in the NFC. Voting runs through December twenty fifth. Go

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Speaker 1: to Azycardinals dot com, or you can go to Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowl dot com forward slash vote help send Trey McBride

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Speaker 1: and Danny Sirek to Orlando, Florida for the game on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: February fourth.

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Speaker 3: Yay. I think you can also go on Twitter. I

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Speaker 3: mean if you go to the Cardinals Twitter. I think

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Speaker 3: if you just retweet the tweets that have the hashtag

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Speaker 3: pro Bowl vote on them, that counts as a vote

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Speaker 3: as well.

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Speaker 1: What we've learned here is that Danny would love to travel,

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Speaker 1: sure at the expense of the Arizona Cardinals on their

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Speaker 1: in general. Oh that's true.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just in general, to travel.

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Speaker 1: By the way, you do anything to celebrate today. As

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Speaker 1: I get this, what am my?

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Speaker 3: What is today? December thirteenth?

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Speaker 1: It's a Wednesday, twelve thirteen day?

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Speaker 3: What does that mean?

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Speaker 1: The only reason I know about it is because my

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Speaker 1: daughter woke up and let me know.

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Speaker 3: I don't what am I missing? I feel so.

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Speaker 1: Embarrassed Wednesday, December twelfth, I should say, excuse me, December

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Speaker 1: thirteenth is Taylor Swift's birthday.

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Speaker 3: Oh, is that something I should know?

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Speaker 1: I just figured everyone did.

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Speaker 3: I did not know it was her birthday. Happy birthday

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Speaker 3: to Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 1: And there's an NFL connection there right there is your

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Speaker 1: favorite non Arizona Cardinals, Dallas Cowboys from Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: You make it seem like I hate Taylor Swift and

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Speaker 3: I hate the fact that she's dating Travis Kelsey. I

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Speaker 3: think it's great that they have found love. I think

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Speaker 3: it's great that they the NFL is expanding, intentional or unintentional,

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Speaker 3: through this relationship, their fan base and getting more people

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Speaker 3: watching the Chiefs and watching other games. I think that

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Speaker 3: is spectacular. My only gripe with it was that it

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Speaker 3: shoved down my throat in the very beginning. That's all

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Speaker 3: it was. Give them a little privacy, careful.

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Speaker 1: You don't want those swifties.

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Speaker 3: But I'm not saying it. I'm just asking for privacy

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Speaker 3: for them. I'm not saying anything that would upset them.

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Speaker 1: That's fair. She was born in nineteen eighty nine.

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Speaker 3: You're so you are full of Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 1: Facts just because I know it kind of irks you

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Speaker 1: a little bit. You don't have disdain like you do

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Speaker 1: for reindeer.

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Speaker 3: I do not have bad Bloway Taylor Swift, well done,

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I like that.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's a good way to put a bow on

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Speaker 1: the end of this one.

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Speaker 3: A birthday bo for Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 1: Very nice. Special thanks as always to our executive producer

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Speaker 1: Jim A. Mahundro, our associate producer Coddy Fincher for Danny

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Speaker 1: Surrec Swifty, Danny Surrek. Sure, I'm Craig, Rayal Lou. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you next time here on Cardinals Discover two