1 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: Well, hello, Hello, are you ready for this today? 2 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 2: I don't know. 3 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: We told you guys a couple of weeks ago we 4 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: were going to Key West to celebrate Chip's fiftieth birthday. 5 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm still not quite there. 6 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: Yet, but I was going to say the actual birthday 7 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,319 Speaker 1: is not till November twelfth, right, correct, Yes, So we 8 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: were a little ahead of time, and we're a little 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: ahead of time on this topic as well. But Wednesday's 10 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: guest was John Slavitt, who it was actually a replay 11 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: of something a conversation I had had last year that 12 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: I just loved. I really think it's important to hear 13 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: men's perspective of aging and mid life and life after divorce, 14 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: because often on this podcast, obviously I'm talking to women, 15 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: and I'm coming from a female perspective, so it's interesting 16 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: to me to hear the male perspective. And he gave 17 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: that he was a very successful guy, had a great 18 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: marriage or had a marriage storybook kind of looking life, 19 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: fairy tale life, and then it all fell apart, so 20 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: he had kids, the marriage fell apart, and then he 21 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: was talking started a whole network about starting over at 22 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: fifty and just like what that looks like? And it 23 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: made me think about you and some of the things 24 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: that you have brought up in relation to turning fifty. 25 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: And I will say this is the most maybe is 26 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: the word hesitant or back and forth kind of wavering 27 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: that I've seen you do about a birthday in an 28 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: age Like I've never seen you struggle with it at all, 29 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: And I think this one seems to be hitting you 30 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: a little differently. 31 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: I mean, it's well, it's funny because I feel like 32 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: I've never really worried about the number, because I feel, 33 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: you know, I've always felt like super youthful and like 34 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: having my finger on the pulse. But I mean, and 35 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: I guess my frame of reference generally is music. You know, 36 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 2: It's like the most central thing in my life. And 37 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 2: you know, as I'm inching towards fifty, it's like I 38 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: am really starting like it's not even the number that's scary. 39 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 2: It's like I'm starting to feel old in ways that 40 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: I never really thought I would, not even physically, it's 41 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 2: more like emotionally and the like, you know, I look 42 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: at the charts and I'm like, who are all these 43 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 2: people like? And I feel like I'm paying attention, you know, 44 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: I'm just like I'm just like old. Even before we 45 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 2: were started recording you when I were talking about some 46 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: of your new clients or your newer clients, and you know, 47 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 2: it's like I just don't have my finger on the 48 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 2: pulse like I used to, and that is a bit 49 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,119 Speaker 2: of a bummer, but it's also something that like there's 50 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 2: a bit of relief in it too, like I don't 51 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 2: need to, you know, like it's like I have the 52 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: stories I have. I mean, look, I'm nowhere near it. 53 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 2: Like this sounds like I'm dying, but you know, I've 54 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 2: like great memories and stories and stuff that like it's 55 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 2: it's I'm actually okay with like sort of turning the 56 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 2: corner a little bit and like taking my foot off 57 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 2: the gas and not not feeling like I have to 58 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 2: keep up Like that is truly a young person's game. 59 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 2: And look, I still like I'm going to be active 60 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 2: and like do things, but I also don't feel like 61 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: I need to be the first one, you know, to 62 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 2: know about everything you know, because they're I mean, the 63 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 2: truth is is, I think as you get older, you 64 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 2: realize like that time is precious and all of those things, 65 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: and it's like I don't I really only want to 66 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 2: spend my time on the things that I really really like. 67 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: And I mean that might be something like a new 68 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 2: music discovery, but I don't have to. I don't feel 69 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: like I have to sift through all the bullshit to 70 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 2: find the things that I like. I feel like now 71 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: I'm at an age where the things that I like 72 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: will find me eventually, or maybe they won't and I'll 73 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 2: just never know about them. But I don't feel like 74 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 2: I have to like be a active in the search. 75 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: I always think it's so funny when you say you 76 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: don't have to be as active as anything, though, because 77 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: even when you made your word no k n O 78 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: W versus no, like saying no, I did not witness 79 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: you saying no. 80 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 2: Oh my god. I was literally thinking about that this morning. Well, yes, okay, 81 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 2: yesterday I woke up. 82 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: That was your word this year, right. 83 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 2: That was this year's oopsy oopsy. I guess that's gonna 84 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 2: have to carry over to fifty. I woke up yesterday morning, 85 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 2: like before my alarm and literally had one of those 86 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: what day is a moments, you know, like when you 87 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 2: wake up and I guess I'd gotten a decent night 88 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 2: of sleep because it was like I was in such 89 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 2: like a trance, okay, and I had no idea what 90 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: day of the week it was. I was like, is 91 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 2: it the week? Is it the weekend? And then I 92 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 2: realized it was Wednesday, which is I mean, I guess 93 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: not the word. It could have been Monday, right, So 94 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 2: it was the downhill slide. But in that moment, I 95 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 2: was like, I had to start. It is almost November 96 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 2: and I haven't really said out all a lot this year. 97 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 2: I'm like this this month, I'm traveling every weekend. It's 98 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 2: crazy to me. 99 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: So you've got two months of no left of five. 100 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: You may just need to carry this one over. 101 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 2: I know. I think I'm gonna have to carry it 102 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 2: over because I have to travel and I know some 103 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 2: travel I have to do in November for some friend's 104 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: birthday also turning fifty. So I have not done a 105 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 2: very good job. But I do feel like the k 106 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 2: n ow part I have been, you know, trying to 107 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: like learn more about myself and what it is that 108 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: I want to do. And maybe that is just sort 109 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 2: of the reflective side of turning fifty, like thinking about 110 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 2: some of those things, and I feel like, you know, 111 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 2: I've learned a lot about how strong I can be, 112 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 2: and I've had you know, I've tested myself in ways 113 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 2: this year that I haven't in the past, and I'm 114 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 2: still here, you know, I'm still here. 115 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: I always think about aging in relation to kind of 116 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: like we have these expectations when we're kids of what 117 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: it's going to feel like to turn a certain age, right, Like, 118 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: I will never forget when my parents turned forty, and 119 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: I remember thinking, like, whoof old? 120 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 2: Everything was black? At my mom's forty dad over the hill. 121 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: I remember my dad getting upset because his sister had 122 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: done a bunch of stuff like that, like kind of 123 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: the over the hill jokes, and I think he wasn't 124 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: prepared for that and didn't want it to be doomsday either, 125 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: and so he was like what. But I remember thinking, yeah, 126 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: like forty, man, you are like on death's doors what 127 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: it felt like as a kid. Then you get to 128 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: forty and you're like, I don't have anything figured out. 129 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 1: It's not at all what I thought it would be. 130 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: So I wonder, is that something that you're feeling right now? 131 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: Do you feel like the decades are kind of the 132 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: markers of that more where we start doing the comparison 133 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: to what we thought it would be versus what it 134 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: really is, and what are the things coming up for 135 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: you with that? 136 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you know, obviously fifty is probably a 137 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 2: pretty good benchmark for like you're in the latter half 138 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 2: of your life. You know, very few people live to 139 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 2: be over one hundred. So I'm incredibly aware of that. 140 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 2: You know, I'm a really lucky person. Like I had 141 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 2: a dream and I achieved it, and I'm still somewhat 142 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 2: living in that dream. So in terms of like career building, 143 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 2: I don't feel behind. Look, would I like to have 144 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 2: more money in the bank, Yes, Would I like to 145 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 2: have achieved some greater things in my career? Yes? So 146 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 2: I think that there are still like real goals that 147 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 2: I can set for myself and work towards. But if 148 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: it all came crashing down tomorrow and I couldn't work anymore, 149 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 2: would I be happy with what I've done? Absolutely? But 150 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 2: I do. I think That's one of the things is 151 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 2: like when you hit this age, it's asking yourself, like, well, 152 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 2: who am I now? Like what do I still have 153 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: time to do? What are the things that like I 154 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 2: don't want to regret? You know, Like time truly is 155 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 2: our most precious resource, and it may she realize those things. 156 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 2: Like I'm still very lucky to have my parents alive. 157 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: They're both in their eighties, and I mean it's crazy 158 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 2: to think that, Like, you know, I feel so much 159 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: closer in age to them now than I have ever felt, 160 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: and we've always been the same exact amount of time, 161 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: but like I know them from fifty to eighty. I 162 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 2: know all the life that they've lived for those thirty years. 163 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: And although it seems like eighties around the corner for 164 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 2: me at this point, like I know that there's still 165 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 2: a lot of time and if I can like try 166 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 2: to be better about respecting my body and sleeping better 167 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: and doing all the things, like, I can have that longevity. 168 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 2: And I do think like I'm really fortunate. You know, 169 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: what I do is exhausting, and I travel a lot, 170 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 2: and I give up a lot of my personal life, 171 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 2: but I also feel like that is keeping me like 172 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 2: younger and vibrant, more vibrant, So I think that is 173 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 2: a bonus to the exhaustion. It's not like I'm just 174 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 2: like traveling around, like you know, reading lawyer docs and 175 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 2: fighting in court and doing stuff that's a lot more 176 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 2: stressful or like giving surgery to people, you know, like 177 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 2: that's really. 178 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: Really saving lives. 179 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the main thing now is like really 180 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 2: trying to figure out, like what do I want the 181 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 2: rest of my life to look like? Like, you know, 182 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 2: when you're turning forty, that just is like that's more 183 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 2: of like a joke. You're right, Like I didn't know 184 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 2: what I was doing. I like felt like I was 185 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 2: on a path, but I wasn't certain and it was 186 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 2: right around So I moved to Nashville ten years ago 187 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 2: this month, So I was in a season of major change. 188 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 2: The main reason I wanted to move to Nashville, outside 189 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 2: of like loving the city and having friends here, was 190 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 2: I knew I needed to start really thinking about my future. 191 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 2: I wanted to own something, and I couldn't do that 192 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: in Los Angeles. I knew I would probably, without like 193 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 2: a huge stroke of luck, would always be renting in 194 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 2: Los Angeles, probably never own anything. So moving to Nashville 195 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 2: gave me the opportunit to like buy something and sort 196 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: of invest in myself for the first time financially in 197 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 2: that way. So, you know, ten years ago it was 198 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 2: like this huge season of change where now I feel like, 199 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 2: you know, I've been in this house for ten years. 200 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 2: It's got a lot of equity in it, and like, 201 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 2: I set myself up for my future in a way, 202 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 2: just you know, with a piece of property. And so 203 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 2: I'm like resting on a little bit of relief. So 204 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 2: now it's more like who am I moving forward? And 205 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 2: what do I still want to achieve? And what are 206 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 2: those things that I want to check off my list? 207 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 2: Which is scary and exciting because I can obviously only 208 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 2: fit so much in and the next however many years 209 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 2: I'm going to live. 210 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: And lord knows, you'll try to fit it all in. 211 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: And you know there's there. It's like I've lived my 212 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 2: life coming up with lots of like great ideas, and 213 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 2: one of my regrets in life is like sometimes I'll 214 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 2: have a great idea for ten twenty years and never 215 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 2: do a single thing about it. And like now it's 216 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 2: the time for me to like look at those ideas 217 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 2: and be like, Okay, which of these are actually realistic 218 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 2: that I would want to like try and make a reality? 219 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 2: Exciting to me? 220 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: That is exciting. Do you feel like there's any aspects 221 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: of your personality or lifestyle or job anything that you 222 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: feel like Okay, you know what, I'm fifty now, this 223 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: is a part that I want to leave behind. I've 224 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 1: done that, been there, like it's time to move forward. 225 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: Or even just like ways that you went about doing things, 226 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: like are you kind of over some of your own patterns? 227 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: Is that hitting me? 228 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 2: I'm still like a chronic procrastinator, and that is one 229 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 2: of the things, Like the more that I learn about it. 230 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 2: It's funny because I get served ads on Instagram about 231 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 2: procrastination and it's not there's roots to why people share 232 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 2: to procrastinate that I probably really need to address. But 233 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 2: the more that I just sort of like learn about 234 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 2: the procrastination that I've literally done my whole life and 235 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 2: the weight that it adds to just your being, that 236 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 2: is something that I really want to work on. Like 237 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 2: when I work with friends or see friends who are 238 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 2: incredibly decisive and just like yes no, move on, yes no, 239 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 2: get it done, move on, where I like labor over 240 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 2: decisions and try to look at everything from a million sides, 241 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 2: and I know that they're doing that their process. This 242 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 2: is just more rapid because I don't think that my 243 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 2: friends that are doing that are just like yes no, 244 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 2: like just like making decisions. I don't want it to 245 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 2: sound like that, but I like labor over it. It's 246 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 2: I'm going to give a great example, like and this 247 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 2: has really nothing to do with work, because it could. 248 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess it does. But our friend Tyler 249 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 2: is a travel agent, and when we were in Key West, 250 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 2: he helped sort of arrange everything. And when we were 251 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 2: in Key West, one of the rooms that i'd booked 252 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 2: i'd booked through the block that he'd set up, and 253 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 2: another one I'd booked through a third party because I 254 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 2: want to points. And he was like he looked at me, 255 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 2: and he was there when I was checking in, and 256 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 2: I was like, worried that any sort of upgrade that 257 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 2: had been asked for on behalf of the birthday boy 258 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 2: was going to go to the room that I'd given 259 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 2: to my sister because that was the one that I 260 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 2: booked through the block. And then suddenly was like, oh 261 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 2: my god, what if she gets the upgrade? And he 262 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 2: looked at me and he was like, you were so 263 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 2: anti travel agent. I was like, no, I'm not, and 264 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 2: he was like, yes you are. And I was like, look, 265 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 2: I just like my points. You know, I got to 266 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 2: get my companion passed and he was like, ugh, you're 267 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 2: so pedestrian, and I was like, no, I'm not. I 268 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 2: was like, plus, I don't want to like have to 269 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 2: call you at twelve thirty at night if there's something wrong. 270 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 2: And he's like, that's what I'm here for. And I 271 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 2: you know, I just like the control of like being 272 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 2: able to make the changes and know all the things. 273 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: But I also know that if I called Tyler to 274 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 2: be like, hey, i'm doing I'm going here, I need 275 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 2: you to help me, he would send me options, and 276 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 2: you know what I would do. I would go to Kayak. 277 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 2: I would search options myself. So I would just like 278 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 2: waste time because it's not as necessarily a procrastination thing. 279 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 2: It's more of like a control. I need to know 280 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 2: every single option before I make a decision, versus just 281 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 2: being like that flight looks good, move on and oh okay, 282 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 2: And so I think I need to I think it 283 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 2: is about like it's not just stop procrastinating. I still 284 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 2: need to figure out how to work smarter, not harder, 285 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 2: so that I can also like have more free time. 286 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: So I start some of those what if ideas, Right, 287 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: there's no way that you'll be able to expand business 288 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: wise or into any of those ideas unless you allow 289 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: help to come in. And yes, we physically can't. Like 290 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: I'm in the same stage right now, just it's gotten 291 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: busier than it has been. I need to get some help, 292 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: but I've got to get through a couple of things 293 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: be where I can sit down and do. But I 294 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: know from past experience that if I don't ask for help, 295 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: I'm just going to keep drowning. But it's not going 296 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: to help me grow. It doesn't give you the space 297 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: to grow. You just stay at the level you are 298 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: because one person can only do so much. 299 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 2: There's only so much bandwidth. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I 300 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 2: think to answer the question, it would be to really 301 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 2: start to figure out how to let go of the 302 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 2: little things that caused me to procrastinate or not be 303 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 2: able to make a decision. 304 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: So when you're turning fifty, you've kind of touched on 305 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: this a little bit. But I think that with your job, 306 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: you said, I have lived my dream, but of course 307 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: I would like a little more money, a little more whatever, 308 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: you know, all the stuff that we all want. Is 309 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: there some sort of definition of success that has changed 310 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: or evolved for you since your thirties and forties at 311 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: fifty or is it around the same goal wise, because 312 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: you've always just kind of known you wanted to be 313 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: a part of this music industry. 314 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know that there's any particular like benchmarks. 315 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 2: Look the fact that I have sustained in this business 316 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 2: for I mean, it's literally I've only ever worked in music, 317 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: and I know so many people who were, you know, 318 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 2: equal further along in their career than me when I 319 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 2: was younger. But the industry has like shifted and laid 320 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 2: off so many people, and jobs of like complete jobs 321 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 2: have gone away that didn't like that existed when I 322 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 2: when I was younger, and like technology has replaced a 323 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 2: lot of people. So the fact that I'm even still 324 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 2: in it is success to me. I still get to 325 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 2: wake up and do what I love every day. And 326 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 2: having shifted from like working in the more like I 327 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 2: was at record labels, and then I was in a 328 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 2: marketing team and so I was more service oriented, and 329 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: now being on the management side, it's like I have 330 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 2: a really clear affinity for like working with the artists 331 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 2: that I want to work with. So that feels like 332 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 2: a step, you know, like in the right direction. Because 333 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 2: it is in some ways building your own business. I mean, 334 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 2: I still work on teams that like, I'm not the manager, 335 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: I'm working under a manager, so there's that too, But 336 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 2: I do have my own clients, which is that is 337 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 2: me sort of you know, in a way. Investing in myself, 338 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 2: taking a chance on myself and having that confidence is 339 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 2: truly like the biggest stage of success for me, because 340 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 2: I was always scared that I could not be a 341 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 2: manager because there was so much that I didn't know. 342 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 2: And now I learned that, like most managers, there's so 343 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 2: much shit that they don't know, you know, because you 344 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 2: just don't know what's yeah, yeah, right, yeah, there's so 345 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 2: much personality that's involved, and I mean, shit, you just 346 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 2: don't know what's going to get thrown at you any day, 347 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 2: Like you're you're you could have a client that gets 348 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 2: a movie offer out of nowhere, and if you've never 349 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 2: worked in the movie business, suddenly you have to figure 350 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 2: out how to navigate that. And quite honestly, that's fun. 351 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 2: That's the fun part is that it changes every day. 352 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 2: So but yeah, I mean, look, would money be a 353 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 2: great marker of success, Absolutely, I think it is in 354 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 2: any business, But I also think the fact that I'm 355 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 2: still happy doing what I do is the greatest mark 356 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 2: of success. 357 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 1: Well, you can't take it with you, so you really 358 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: can't enjoy what it is you do have. 359 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 2: While you're here. And I've never beginn it holding on 360 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 2: to it, so it's like I might as well. 361 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you you mentioned investing in yourself or taking 362 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: a chance on yourself with moving into management and things 363 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: like that, what do you feel as far as you 364 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: know self love? That's like I always hear women who 365 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: turn fifty. Let me say it this way, when I 366 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: turned forty, I felt like, you know, what the fucks 367 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: that the amount of fucks that I give is dropping 368 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: by the day. Like it's just like you kind of 369 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: get to this place where you're like, I have to 370 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: just start accepting myself as I am because this is 371 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: all I've got. Like wherever I go, I am here, 372 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 1: you know, like I'm with me, so I might as 373 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: well figure out a way to embrace myself and love myself. 374 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: But then I always hear women say when they turn fifty, 375 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: it's even more than that, like you're just like in 376 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: this full blown place of here I am world, take 377 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:55,959 Speaker 1: it or leave it, Like this is what it is. 378 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: Do you feel that as Is it the same for 379 00:18:58,520 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: men or as. 380 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 2: I think so? I mean, look, there are instances where 381 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 2: you like, and I'll end up in a room where 382 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 2: I'm like the oldest feel like the oldest person there, 383 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 2: and that's that's a little weird because I still am 384 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 2: like going out and trying to be somewhat youthful. But 385 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 2: I joke about it, like it doesn't make me feel bad, 386 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 2: but I'll just be like, well, I'm gonna leave early 387 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 2: because I'm definitely the oldest person here. But I can 388 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 2: have a sense of humor about it. But I do 389 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 2: feel like life is so much less performative now, Like 390 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 2: I know who I am, I have an amazing network 391 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 2: of family and friends that love me and which was 392 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 2: proven time and time again last weekend. Yeah, and it's 393 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 2: also too like I think back to some of my 394 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 2: other birthday parties that had hundreds of I mean, it 395 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 2: wasn't like destination stuff like this was more like a 396 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 2: wedding in the way that it was set up. But 397 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 2: it's like I used to have to have. And you're 398 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 2: probably gonna laugh at this because you still probably felt 399 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 2: like there were ancillary people there but I used to 400 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 2: like literally everyone I worked with was there, Like I 401 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 2: would have two three hundred people at my birthday party, 402 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 2: and like now it's like even it feels like this 403 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 2: one was narrowed down. 404 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: Either that was dialed back for you, that. 405 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 2: Was dialed back. But like you know, as people from 406 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 2: my childhood to people in New York and college and 407 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 2: Los Angeles and New York and sorry I said New 408 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 2: York and Nashville, it was like the most important people 409 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 2: from like lots of walks of my life. And it's 410 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 2: really awesome to like look back and see the relationships 411 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 2: that have really sustained and mattered. And some of those 412 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 2: people like I'll speak to a couple times a year, 413 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 2: so to get to see them and know that, like 414 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 2: I hold a place in their heart that they would 415 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 2: spend that money and get on a plane and come 416 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 2: spend that time in Key West, you know, it just 417 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 2: made me feel really special. But you know, to answer 418 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 2: to get back into your question, you know, I know 419 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 2: what is important to me. Now, I know what my 420 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 2: values are. I feel like I can stand behind them 421 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 2: without like feeling worried about fitting in. You know, I 422 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 2: also feel like my value system is so clear to 423 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 2: me that I can have conversations about it without feeling preachy, yeah, 424 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 2: if I need to, or feeling like I'm wrong. You know, 425 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 2: like I feel so good about like where I stand 426 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 2: on things that even if I don't agree with someone, 427 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 2: I don't walk away from those conversations feeling like I'm wrong. 428 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 2: Are there things that I can learn? Of course, but 429 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 2: I like in my core. I believe that my value 430 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 2: system like lays in the right place. And that's a 431 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 2: nice refreshing way to feel, because it's when you're questioning 432 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 2: your values because you don't feel like you fit in somewhere, 433 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 2: it's a really slippery slope and you're not living authentically. 434 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 2: And to recognize that, like I am resolute in my 435 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 2: values means that I'm living pretty authentically. 436 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: So I was gonna touch a little bit on Key 437 00:21:55,119 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: West because it was such a fun experience. That was 438 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: gonna touch a little bit on Key West because it 439 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: was such a fun experience. I did not know what 440 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: to think going into it. As you mentioned, there was 441 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people going. It felt a little more 442 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: like for the listeners, it felt a little more like 443 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: a wedding situation in that we were all going to 444 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 1: this one destination. There was a hotel block, like all 445 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 1: the things that a destination wedding would involve. There was 446 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: an itinerary, you know, things like that. But I'd sid 447 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: say to someone when reflecting back on it, I don't 448 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: know another human in my life that could bring so 449 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: many people from different stages of life and us all 450 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: kind of mesh and get along, and the common denominator 451 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 1: is just how much we love you. 452 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 2: Right. 453 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: That was like such a cool experience because I truly 454 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 1: felt like even people from your childhood maybe that you 455 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: haven't seen as often, like you were saying, and then 456 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: you're La frindjern O friends, we all like had this 457 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: common bond of like, well we just love chips. So 458 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: here we are. We're ready to go, you know, and 459 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: like and then. 460 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 2: We also have fun. 461 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know another person either who could manage 462 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: that many different groups and walks of life and no 463 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: one feel neglected. Like thought, I felt like I saw 464 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 1: you a ton, but I know everyone else did too, 465 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 1: you know, So I don't know, it. 466 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 2: Was just a That's why I'm still tired a weekend. 467 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: It's probably all the same. I do have to tell 468 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: the listeners I've mentioned before how Chip loves karaoke. What 469 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 1: I didn't know about you is that the people from 470 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: other walks of life of yours also love karaokes equally 471 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: as much and are as good at it. Like I 472 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 1: have never been with so many professional karaoke people in 473 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: my life. 474 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 2: Oh my god, somebody Spanish? 475 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: Yes the CARDI b I like it? Like that? I 476 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 1: like that and did the Spanish parts too. I was like, 477 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: who are you? Everyone got up. But the thing I 478 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: learned about y'all, and what I learned about karaoke from y'all, 479 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: is if you get up on a karaoke stage, you 480 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 1: better fucking own it, Like you just gotta go. You 481 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: can't half ass it. You can't be awkward and shy. 482 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: You gotta lean all the way in, even if you 483 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: don't know all the lyrics, and just go, just go. 484 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: And when I say lean all the way in, let 485 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: me give you guys a visual. I thought the night 486 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: was winding down, but I guess this was maybe like 487 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: the encore, the finale performance, and I see a chair 488 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: get brought up to stay there? 489 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 2: Do you think Britney spears up? 490 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 1: I didn't know what you were. I thought you were 491 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: maybe gonna do what's the one where they. 492 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 2: Pull the water flash dance? 493 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, the flash dance dance. Whatever that song is. Yeah, 494 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: what a feeling. That's it. That's it. But it wasn't. 495 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: So Chip takes the chair, turns it backwards like he's 496 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: a c slater, and sits in it stoically starts into 497 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: father Figure. 498 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 2: I was really worried when I did it, too, because 499 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 2: I feel like it came after some really big hype song. 500 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: It's probably Bell Yes, and he gets up there and 501 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: does the ballot. He stayed in the chair for half 502 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 1: the song, and he gets up and obviously works the 503 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: stage and gives the people what they want. I mean, 504 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: that wasn't the only time he was on stage, don't 505 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: you guys worry. It was multiple times. 506 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 2: There were many times. 507 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: I've just never seen so many stellar karaoke performances. I 508 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: even felt like that bachelor party that came into the 509 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: room with us, they were leaning into it. 510 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 511 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: The energy around karaoke was like, get up and own it. 512 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: I did not. I couldn't even get up there because 513 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: I was so intimidated by all y'all. 514 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 2: Well, what was funny was so my friend Lauren was 515 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 2: in town and she loves karaoke, and she had prepared 516 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 2: gnarly by Kat's Eye and like learned the dance everything. Well, 517 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 2: she fainted at dinner before karaoke and didn't get to 518 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 2: come to the karaoke. Okay, yeah, you're like, I don't 519 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 2: remember that. But the next night, after dinner, a bunch 520 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 2: of us went to the karaoke place so that she 521 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 2: could do it, and the vibe was very different, like 522 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 2: the night of my birthday party. Like if you had 523 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 2: randomly walked into this karaoke place, you would have thought 524 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 2: a real concert was happening, because the whole audience was 525 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 2: like in it, screaming. It was crazy. And we walk 526 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 2: in the next night and it's like there's like twelve 527 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 2: people in the bar, and the people that are singing 528 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 2: are all doing like show tunes, and so it was 529 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 2: like this like and there's like no energy coming at 530 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 2: the stage, and in walks Lauren Waterman and gets up 531 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 2: there and does her dance and like kind of brought 532 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 2: the place down because those of us who were with 533 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 2: her had that same sort of energy. But it was like, 534 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 2: I bring it up because I noticed, like just how 535 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 2: the two nights were and like, I mean we so 536 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 2: she mentioned a bachelor There was a bachelor party that 537 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 2: basically we took up two thirds of the whole bar, 538 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 2: and then this bachelor party came and filled up the 539 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 2: other third, and so it was like them and us 540 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 2: going they were great, and they were great too, but 541 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 2: we invited them on our boat the next day they 542 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 2: ended up. Yeah, we invited all of them, but they 543 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 2: couldn't come. 544 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: I didn't even know that part. 545 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was texting with a dude named Brian. 546 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love that you even exchanged numbers. 547 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: The thing is, you were not acting fifty that week 548 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: this weekend, because like I would be asleep by like 549 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: ten every night, I. 550 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 2: Would be up till four am. 551 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: I don't know how you did it. And that one 552 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 1: day you did lose your voice. It was the night 553 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: after karaoke. Yeah, I've never heard Chip have such a 554 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: low voice. It was like I can't. 555 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 2: And I was trying so hard to speak, and it 556 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 2: was just making it worse and worse. 557 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: All that singing Father figure really just scream. I think 558 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: your body is probably like, why are we up at 559 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: four am? You're a percent chicken. I just still can't 560 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: believe that you went with it all in all, though, 561 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I'll love never laughed that hard. At karaoke 562 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: was another thing. But our friend Reagan was up on 563 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: the speakers dancing like I don't know who we thought we. 564 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 2: Were we I mean we went in there and owned 565 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 2: that bar. That is for sure. If anyone is going 566 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 2: to Key West, you got to go see our boy 567 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 2: Rico at Duval Stars karaoke. 568 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: That is that the one you talk about. It used 569 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: to be a strip club. 570 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 571 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,719 Speaker 1: Wow, what a vibe. Okay, it's a vibe. Yeah, I 572 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: was really really into it. Your friend Willa got a 573 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: chip is friends with Willa Ford. If you guys remember 574 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: I want to be bad back in. 575 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 2: The day, back in the day, she's. 576 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,479 Speaker 1: Making a comeback. So the fact that she got up 577 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: and did I wanted to be bad for you. I 578 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: was dying. 579 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 2: She's never done karaoke before in her life, and she 580 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 2: certainly was like, this is the only time I'm ever 581 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 2: going to do this song. 582 00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: It has to be because you're turning fifty. 583 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to get that up on the interneweb 584 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:02,959 Speaker 2: so people can see it. 585 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: I was going to ask you, And this feels kind 586 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: of like a good transition. Do you feel like there's 587 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: anything people get wrong about aging? And I think this 588 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: is an interesting transition because obviously in that those experiences 589 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: we were acting like twenty somethings. 590 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was like the twenty first birthday. 591 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: Do you feel like there's an overall misconception or did 592 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: you have another understanding of aging and now you're here 593 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: and you're like, well, I. 594 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 2: Mean, I think, you know, being I'm single and don't 595 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 2: have kids, so my experience is different than a lot 596 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 2: of probably most people's. I've always thought that age is 597 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 2: a number and you have to like really like lean 598 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 2: into that. Like there are certain things scientifically that I 599 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 2: cannot stop from happening. My my joints are going to ache, 600 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 2: my muscles are going to get weaker as I get older, 601 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 2: things like that. But I don't think that like we 602 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 2: all have to stop having fun, you know, Like I 603 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 2: look at my parents in their retirement, like they still 604 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 2: want to have fun. And I don't think that growing 605 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 2: up or maturing means don't have fun. And I think that, 606 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 2: you know, there is particularly in America, in our puritanical society, 607 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 2: there is some sort of a stigma to like you 608 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 2: act your age, you know, like people are expected to 609 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 2: just act like kids. I'm not act like kids as 610 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 2: they grow up. But I'm just like, wouldn't wor'll be 611 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 2: a better place if we all just sort of held 612 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 2: on to that, Like the are youthful qualities, the one 613 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 2: you know, seeing the world with wonder instead of disdain 614 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 2: or jealousy or the things that like creep into our lives. 615 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 2: I mean, that was one of the things that like, 616 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,239 Speaker 2: I was doing a little reading before we did this, 617 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 2: and I was like, just do research about like the 618 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 2: good things and the bad things of about turning fifty. 619 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,239 Speaker 2: And one of the things that I read was like, 620 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 2: and when it comes to relationships, which I've talked about 621 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 2: a little bit before, like the ones that are really 622 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,479 Speaker 2: locked in are so much more clear now and like 623 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 2: you know who your core is, but also your relationship 624 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 2: to yourself gets to change as you are dropping the 625 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 2: things that don't matter. And that really struck me because 626 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 2: I'm like, I want to continue to focus on the 627 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 2: kid in me, and like the kid that just saw wonder, 628 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 2: like that believed he could do anything. That I mean, 629 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 2: it's like the where the what if guy came from? 630 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 2: I think, you know, and so I think that's the 631 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 2: one thing that I'm just going to remind myself as 632 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 2: I continue to age and I, you know, do finally 633 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 2: turn the corner to fifty, that you know, don't lose 634 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 2: the kid. 635 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. I love that, and I really like tying it 636 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: back into Wednesday's podcast of him starting over at fifty 637 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: is essentially what it was. I think we do map 638 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: it out when we're younger, and we're kind of like, Okay, 639 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: by this age, I'm gonna do this and by this 640 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: and that, and then life happens and it never looks 641 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: like what we think it will probably now, or if 642 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: you get all the things you thought you wanted and 643 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: then you are done getting them, you're like, wait, is 644 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: this it? 645 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? 646 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: And I do think as you age you almost can 647 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: embrace the child like wonder like you're talking about, even 648 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: more than maybe we could in our thirties and even 649 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: your forties a little bit. It's like getting back to 650 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: the root of why you wanted to do all the 651 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: things you wanted to do when you first started in 652 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: this business or when you first moved to Nashville, Like 653 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: letting yourself get lit up again instead of just being 654 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: so focused on the grind. I think that's a beautiful 655 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: lesson to take from getting older. 656 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well and even too. It's like while we were 657 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 2: in QS, I could see myself there as a retired 658 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 2: like as a retired person. 659 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: Oh, I could totally see you working. 660 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,239 Speaker 2: At a bar, like working on a boat, or like 661 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 2: still working, like because I still I think I'll always 662 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 2: want to have that sort of you know, do I 663 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 2: want to have to have a job, No fucking way, 664 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 2: But like do I want to sit in my house 665 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 2: and watch prices right every day? No? 666 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to know, I want to do that on. 667 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 2: The days that I want to. But I could also 668 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 2: see myself we did. There was on the second day 669 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 2: or on Saturday, we did there was a rental boat 670 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 2: and I had like these It was a female captain 671 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 2: who was a badass and had these beautiful women that 672 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 2: were like serving us. But I'm like, I could capture 673 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 2: one of these boats. I could do this take people 674 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 2: out to party every day. Like, oh my god, that 675 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 2: would be a dream come true. I should. I'd live 676 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 2: on that boat if I could. 677 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see you doing it. 678 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. So it was like being able to see 679 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 2: myself still having fun when like the music business is 680 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 2: behind me. It was. It was very clear to me then. 681 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 2: So it's like I don't feel like I have anything 682 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 2: to fear right now. 683 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, just stuff to look forward to. Yeah, well, thanks 684 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: for sharing your experience with that. I love getting wisdom 685 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: from the elderly. 686 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 2: You better respect your elders. 687 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: I just had to get one in there. If you 688 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: guys haven't listened to my podcast with John, go check 689 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: it out. If you're going through something later in life 690 00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: and you feel like you're having a start over, it's 691 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: just not were starting over. It's just a new part 692 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: of the journey. And I think he really talks about 693 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: that a lot, and I think Chip's knowledge and wisdom 694 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: today that is also saying the same thing. Just go 695 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: out and live life and start over. Do follow your 696 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: inner child's journey though too, it's like what did you 697 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: what lit you up when you were younger? Like are 698 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: you living that out? I think those are really good, 699 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 1: like reflective questions for later stages. 700 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 2: I also think too, if you can get ahead of 701 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 2: it so that like it's not reactionary. Like obviously john 702 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 2: story is different than mine because he went through a divorce, 703 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 2: he got laid off. There were like things that were 704 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 2: out of his control that happened that he had to 705 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 2: react to. So you know, do as much as you 706 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,720 Speaker 2: can to try and stay in control of the things 707 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 2: so that like it's not reactionary. 708 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, like you don't want to be looking back. 709 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: I just had this conversation with my boyfriend. His dad 710 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: is having some health issues, and he was talking just 711 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: about how like his dad's at the phase of life 712 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 1: where he's looking back with regret on certain things, and 713 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: it's really made my boyfriend and think to himself, I 714 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: don't want to get to that place in my life 715 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: where I feel that way. I want to do the 716 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: things I want to do now, or the things that 717 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 1: light me up, or the things that I'm passionate about, 718 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: so that when I'm looking back on my life, I 719 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 1: can feel like, Okay, well I did it, you know, 720 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: like I lived in a true way for me, which 721 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: I think is sometimes easier said than done because we 722 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 1: all get kind of stuck in the rat race a 723 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: little bit. But I do think these kind of conversations 724 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 1: are really good to reflect on and just you know, 725 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,359 Speaker 1: make sure you are living in alignment. Like you said, 726 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 1: you feel like your most authentic self right now, and 727 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: I think that's beautiful. That's a great reflection to have 728 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,839 Speaker 1: on your fiftieth birthday, is that you're really embracing who 729 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: you really are. So anyway, if you guys have any 730 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: thoughts on this or you're going through a similar experience 731 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: and you want to share it with us, you can 732 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: always email us at the Edge at velvetsedge dot com 733 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: or you can hit me up on Instagram. I'm at Velvet's. 734 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 2: Edge, Chip, I'm at Chip doorsh It's Chip dr scch. 735 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: And don't forget to wish Chip a happy birthday on 736 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: November twelfth, you guys sliding to those d M And 737 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: as you guys go into the weekend and you're living 738 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: on the edge, I hope you always remember to act Catsule. 739 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:09,919 Speaker 1: Bye bye