WEBVTT - Dray's First Game Back, March Madness + a Joel Embiid Interview 0:00:01.240 --> 0:00:07.080 The volume. The Draymond Green Show is presented by a 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:10.360 fan duel sports book. There's no better place to bet 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:15.040 the action than on FanDuel sports Book during the football season. 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:18.880 It's easy to use, it's safe and secure, you get 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:21.959 payouts and as fast as two hours. There's so many 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:26.840 bet types. My favorite same game parlay bets. There's live betting, 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:31.720 player props, futures. If you're new, just download the FanDuel 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:35.199 sports Book app to get started. Now sign up. Please 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:41.360 use the promode code column C O L I. An 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:51.239 fan duel sports book makes it easy. What's up, everybody? 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:54.960 Welcome to The Draymond Green Show. This is episode seventeen, 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:58.400 and boy is it a big one. We've been processing 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:00.680 this with for a while. I hope you clocked the wordplay, 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:04.520 processing it, trying to make it happen. Schedules collide that 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:07.200 and it happens all the time. East coast travel, West 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:10.440 coast travel sometimes can be hectic to put it together, 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:13.000 but we got it done this week and I am 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:18.080 excited to welcome m VP candidate five time All Star 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:22.560 the Process Joe L. M B to the show today. 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:25.560 Uh he would be our guests and this interview man 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:29.520 was it a good one? And I mean, what would 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:32.800 you expect though, It's Joel who talks a bunch of 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:38.480 shit to everybody and anybody, and then it's me who 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:41.319 like to talk from time to time, and it's us 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:43.760 having a conversation. So I thought it was great. I 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:47.280 hope you all enjoying it and take away from it, um, 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:49.160 some of the things that I took away from it. 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:52.200 I thought it was an incredible interview. But before we 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:56.480 get to that, let's cruise around the association a little bit. Uh, 0:01:56.600 --> 0:02:06.720 starting off with my return. Sure, it was incredible, um, 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:09.880 but it was a blur. I mean I was like, 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:13.960 if you watch when when I checked into the game, 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:22.280 I actually didn't process that welcome back, and ovation I 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:25.839 didn't process it at all. I was nervous and ship 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:29.480 like if you if you see me, like go back 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:31.600 and watch the clip and look how like watch how 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:33.760 fast I'm like ripping my pants off and taking my 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:38.679 shirt off. I got turned and then I just had 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:42.440 straight for the free throw line and Ruey said something 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:44.200 to me next to me, He said, man, I thought 0:02:44.200 --> 0:02:46.359 they were cheering her at me, And I was so 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:49.520 out of it I started laughing, like, yeah, hey, where 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:52.880 and I'm like, wait a minute, oh that was funny, 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:58.560 Like I mean the nerves that I was feeling, um 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:00.480 and getting back out there. You know what, when when 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:03.840 coming off an injury, you're just never you can just 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:06.519 never be too sure how it's gonna go. So it's 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:08.800 that on top of not planning for a couple of months, 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:11.960 on top of planning with with Stephan Clay for the 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:16.080 first time in one thousand and five days. Um, you know, 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:21.200 it's all of that in one and it was a blur, 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:24.080 like it just was moving way too fast for me. 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:26.600 Like I mean even with the ovation, like most people 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:29.919 would like stop and like waver like acknowledge. I didn't 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:32.360 even realize that. Like it took me to get home 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:38.760 last night. Check my phone. I went to Twitter and 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:42.440 like my first my first response to the ovation if 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:45.600 you go look at my Twitter page, I think I said, like, wow, 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:48.600 that's the first I had really even heard of it, 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:50.280 Like I had no idea. And by the way, it 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:52.680 was to three am by the time I saw it, 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:56.800 Like I had no idea that was the case. And 0:03:56.840 --> 0:03:59.240 so I most importantly I want to say thank you 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:04.120 to dub Nation. Um, I mean that was incredible. It 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:06.840 was something that I would remember for the rest of 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:09.560 my life of what I do remember of it, but 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:12.480 I mean just to be welcome back like that. I 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:16.919 can't think thank our fans enough. It was incredible. It 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:20.200 was such an amazing night steph birthday. To come back 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:23.600 on steph birthday so obviously incredible. I said the other 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:26.440 day in one of my interviews, like, now this this 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:28.800 should be a very memorable birthday for him, like he 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:32.039 scored forty seven, it's our first time playing and in 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:34.800 one thousand and five days. Because thirty four sucks, like 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:37.880 like you're turned thirty four, Like that's no fun. It's 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:43.120 like I turned thirty two last week. I thirty two, 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:45.880 Like it's it's just one of those birthdays and so 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:48.840 and in thirty four is even worse. Like thirty four. 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:50.640 You're like right on the cusp of having a big 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.720 thirty five but not quite there. And so it's like 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:56.400 in reach but not quite there. So it's boring as hell. 0:04:57.000 --> 0:05:00.760 But I think the birthday turned out great, Like it 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:03.440 was an incredible night. Step dropped them boys off of 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:07.400 forty seven, which was beautiful to see. I wish he 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:10.800 would have could have gotten fifty, but we came out 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:14.080 the game the last minute and a half, and I 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:16.160 have no doubt in my mind that he would have 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:19.279 gotten fifty if we were selling in the game. But man, 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:22.080 it was just it was such an amazing night. I 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:24.800 felt great for the most part. I think once I 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:27.240 got to the end of my lads, like the end 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:30.560 of my six minutes stretch, I got, you know, my 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:32.960 win and get a little challenging. Ever, for the most part, 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:36.080 I felt pretty good. Um, a couple of times I'm 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:38.479 dribbling down the court and I like, just lose handle 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:41.840 little ball like it's a field thing. And so I'm 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:44.119 still getting my fieldback. I feel like I'm at about 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:47.160 seventy seventy seventy five per cent or something like that. 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:49.600 And I got I have a month to get ready 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:51.320 for the playoffs, and I have no doubt in my 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:55.320 mind that I'll be back um where I left off 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:58.200 for the playoffs. But overall, I thought it was pretty good. 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:00.000 I thought, you know, we did some really good things. 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:01.680 Is on the offensive end. I thought we did some 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:07.760 really good things on the defensive end. And like I said, uh, 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:10.080 some of the moments that felt great to me. Number 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:12.520 One Steph putting me in the position as soon as 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:15.800 I checked into the game um to catch the ball 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:19.240 and the post and hit him was incredible because as 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:21.359 soon as that happened, which was the very first player 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:24.560 I was in, as soon as that happened, I was like, oh, 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:27.320 like I felt normal after that, Like I felt like, oh, 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:30.440 I'm fine. Like once that first thing is think that 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:33.000 first thing happens, then from that point it's just kind 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:35.240 of like all right, like now it's just basketball. And 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:38.600 so him putting me in that position was extremely important 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:40.240 because you start to run up and down the court 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:42.599 a few times, three, four or five times and nothing 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:46.240 happened with you, and then that that nervousness just starts 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:48.839 to build and build and build and build, and it 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:52.520 gets a little hectic. So I was extremely appreciative of that. 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:55.040 And then I think it was just such a moment 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:58.800 like and and so that moment really stood out to me. 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:01.840 And then also the another moment that really stood out 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:06.599 to me was the the back door cup uh dime 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:10.920 for Clay in transition. That moment was beautiful to me 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:14.200 because it was Steph and Clay right on top of 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:17.320 each other, and then it was myself and so that 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:20.480 play kind of involved that play kind of involved all 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:23.240 of us, and so I thought that was like, those 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:25.840 were the two moments, like two plays in the game 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:30.560 that really stuck out to me that um that that 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:34.200 moving forward, I'll remember those plays in that game. It 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:36.520 was such a beautiful thing. So right in the four 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:39.400 game win streak, which I think is great, especially off 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:42.560 of that stretch of games that we had that I 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:45.280 think we lost nine out of eleven, and so to 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:47.840 see how to squad this bounced back from that and 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:50.640 you know, pulled out some very tough wins. By the way, 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:52.880 I thought. I thought that was a beautiful I thought 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:58.160 that was a great show of character and resilience because 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:01.720 the reality is this team, this team has not really 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:04.960 gone through much. And you know, I know most people say, oh, well, 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:07.760 they got championship experience. We got four guys with championship 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:13.000 experience and then eleven or twelve guys with not much 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:16.800 playoff experience at all, and so trying to get them 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:20.800 to understand what it takes to win at this time 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:24.080 of the season and moving forward, it's something that you 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:26.080 have to really teach, and I think that's something that 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:28.240 we needed to go to in order to figure it out. 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:31.000 And I think, you know, we we definitely showed that 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:33.760 we're capable of figuring it out and and putting it 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:37.080 back together. So that's been beautiful to see. But yeah, man, 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:41.160 I mean, and just wrapping up about the comeback, I mean, 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:43.920 it was it was incredible. As I said in my 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:47.040 press conference last night, I'm very thankful for Rick, Celebrati 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:49.280 and all the work that we put in to get 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:52.319 back here. Man, it was not an easy role. Like 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:56.720 four weeks ago, I could barely run, Like two and 0:08:56.760 --> 0:09:00.360 a half weeks ago, I was like super excited dunk 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:04.720 of basketball, like literally too dunk the basketball, and and 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:09.640 so like what I had to go through to get 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:12.600 back to that court, especially in the time that I 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:18.480 did it was it was hard. It was, I mean, 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:23.640 super challenging, but very rewarding to know the work that 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:28.000 I put in that Rick and I dedicated ourselves too, 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:31.800 to know that it brought me back here to do 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:35.560 what I love with the guys that I love to 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:38.320 take the court with every single night. And like I said, 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:40.880 for the first time in the thousand and five days, 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:45.240 like that's insane, And I could have never imagined that 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:47.880 that would be our reality. But that is our reality. 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:51.760 And you know the band is back together. And like 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:56.040 I said last night, to seed three, seed seventh seeds, 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:59.199 I don't give a damn. We went in the championship 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:03.080 and that's that also not quite around the association, but 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:05.760 in the basketball world. I know you may see I 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:09.320 have on my Michigan State Spartan sweatshirt. This is not 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:14.120 a coincidence. Um. As you know, we have one show 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:18.280 a week, and so this show has to live for 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:28.640 the Michigan State David Davidson Wildcat Game seven ten match up. 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:30.720 My Spartans kind of let go the rope a little 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:33.240 bit down the stretch and ended up as a seventh 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:38.640 seed when three weeks ago we were number one in 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:40.960 the Big Ten. We end up as a seventh seed 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:44.600 and tournament. And so that's the story for another day. 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:50.520 But My Spartan Dogs is going into Greenville, South Carolina, 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:53.920 which is essentially a home game for Davidson, and we 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:59.640 are going to destroy Steph Curry's Davidson Wildcats, and there 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:03.480 will be some good bets. There would be a monetary bet, 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:06.600 there would be a better Steph Curry walking into the 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:11.040 game in the Sparty costume. No, no, no, and not 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:14.880 not just my jersey, not just a Michigan State T shirt. 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:18.200 He will come to a game as the Michigan State 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:23.720 Spartan mascot Sparty. That's what it's gonna be. So I'm 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:25.800 looking forward to that game. And so I had to 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:29.160 wear his shirt just to let it be known. My 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:33.199 Spartan dolls is March. You know what they called time 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:36.200 is so Mr March. You know how he gets it 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:38.880 done at this time of year, and I don't think 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:43.760 it's any different now this year. Now, the second round 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:47.640 matchup that we have is Duke and you know what coaches, 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:50.880 oh say, you give me the first game with the weekend, 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:54.959 I'll get you the second one. And I have no 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:58.160 doubt in my mind that he's going to give me 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:01.120 the second one. I've actually never lost in the second 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:04.480 weekend of in the second game of the weekend. That 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:06.680 is his thing. You give me the first one, I'll 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:11.800 get you the second one. And he delivered. So goodbye Davidson, 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:15.040 coach K I got nothing but love for you, man. 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:20.240 We want to go medal together. Incredible, great great run. 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:24.120 Congratulations to the legendary the great coach k such An honor. 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:26.319 I had to play for him in the two thousand 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:31.440 and sixteen Olympics. But Coach K, you must enjoy retirement 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:36.760 after round to my friend, because my Spartans, we're getting 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:38.840 it done, baby, That's what we do. Coach. But it's 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:41.200 been a great run for you, coach, and I am 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:44.280 upset and sad that it has to end at the 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:48.160 hands of my Spartans Coach K. But it has to. 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:51.800 And to all the Dukie Blue Devils out there. J 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:57.520 t um Seth, I can go down the list, Kyrie, 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:01.640 like I can go down on this list for days. 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:07.640 Bet the money my Spartans taking y'all down. So let 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:10.200 me know what it is. All you Dookey Blue Devils. 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:14.440 All you guys who zion, All you guys who showed 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:19.520 up for the coach k retiring game. Queenn Cook, by 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:22.320 the way, I absolutely thought that was incredible. Of how 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:26.320 everyone showed up like that was amazing. Kudos to the 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:29.640 to the Duke program now was spectacular. But all you guys, 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:34.440 I'm taking all the bets Michigan State round two after 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:37.640 we crushed ste Curry, Davis and Wildcats. How about me? 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:40.600 I need those bets, you know. I'm always rolling with 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:49.200 my spartans. Man. As I told you all that this 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:52.040 this next guest, it is one of the guys I'm 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:55.480 most excited, uh to speak with. I think when when 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:58.680 we're done playing basketball, we'll probably have a show together. 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:03.679 Um and it's gonna be the number one radio basketball 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:06.160 show in the world. I'm just throwing that out there. 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:09.960 Hopefully the big fellow take debate. But man, I'm extremely 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:13.760 excited to welcome five time All Star m v P 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:18.040 front runner candidate this year and was an m VP 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:20.440 candida last year arguably could have been m v P 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:23.880 last year as well. But really excited to welcome this guy. Man, 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:26.760 guy who I'll be locking up that always me by 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:30.640 eighty pounds, got me about six or seven inches, Joe, 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:33.480 L and B. Welcome to the Draymond Green Show, my brother. 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:37.040 I appreciate you coming on. How you doing, I'm good, 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:41.080 I'm good. How you doing? I can't complain, Man, first 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:44.240 game back, I'm feeling great. Bro. I'm so excited to 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:46.080 be back out there on the floor. Man, I've never 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:48.840 you know, I've never been through and and I know 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:52.800 you are. It's someone that definitely understands it even more 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:55.840 than I do. I've never really been through an injury 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:58.440 that kept me out that long like I've been out. 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:02.360 I was out for eleven weeks. Like I've had some 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:04.920 injuries that I needed to rehab, but they were all 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:07.000 over the summer, and so I've never been through an 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:09.680 injury that kept me out that long in the season. Man, 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:13.280 it's brutal. Yeah, it sucks. I mean when you think 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:16.320 about it, and I missed my first within my first 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:22.080 three years because of injury. Obviously you know that that 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:25.040 all that also kept me at longer than you know, 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:29.040 he was supposed to, just because they wanted to make 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:33.000 sure that I was right. But it sucks, can't you? 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:35.840 I mean for you you said it was eleven weeks 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:40.440 for me really three years. So yeah, especially coming out 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:44.480 of college, so you lose, you know, those first three 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:47.920 years of experience that you can't get uh in that time, 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:52.240 and it does suck, Yeah, now for sure. Man. I 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:58.440 it gave me a totally different appreciation for what guys 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:02.880 like yourself went through, um, what Zion Williamson is going through, 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:05.960 what Clay Thompson went through. Like, it gave me such 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:09.360 a deeper appreciation week too. I'm like, all right, man, 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:12.880 like this, this is crazy, Like what we're here six 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:16.480 hours just in the weight room doing like car strange, 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:19.920 Like what are we doing? Man? It's crazy. So at 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:22.720 some point, at some point it doesn't make sense because 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:25.560 you're going every single day. Obviously you do a bunch 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:30.120 of of exercises every single day, but sometimes the same 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:34.000 thing and like it's just like it gets annoying. Like 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:37.920 I remember my first my first year, so I was 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:41.160 doing berialub all the time and then uh, you know 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:43.600 that had me. You know, they wanted me to sit 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:45.960 on the bench and travel with the team and all 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:49.600 that and all that stuff and um and we were 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:52.400 that was at the time where you know, we were 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:56.000 losing a lot every single game. So like I had 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:59.160 to go through that that you know, having to go 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:03.120 through you know, we are met with single single thing. Mentally, 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:05.600 he is already tough, and then you gotta sit on 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:08.040 the match and watch the losing going into the game 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:11.560 and knowing that you don't have like your team doesn't 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:13.639 have a chance to win the game, so you're probably 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:18.359 gonna watch losses after losses. Like he was like, mentally, 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:22.440 you gotta be extremely strong. Absolutely, I think I think 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:26.080 for me, Um, I hadn't said on the bench most 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:28.639 of the games. I was like, maybe I said on 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:32.680 the bench one game and two games the entire time 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:36.120 that I missed. Obviously, you know we have a much 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:39.240 better team. But I think what people don't realize when 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:42.680 you're going through rehab, you're on a totally different schedule 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:47.760 than the team. To to to you're their way earlier 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:50.320 than them because you need to get your rehab in 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:53.320 before they come in, prepping for the game or prepping 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:57.200 for practice or whatever it is. You're then their way 0:17:57.320 --> 0:18:01.560 later than them. And to two then ask a guy like, 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:03.800 by the way, we want you to sit on the bench, 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:08.560 that's your whole day gone. Yeah, for sure. And so 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:10.640 I thought like for me, that was a big thing 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:15.120 where they didn't make me sit on the bench. Um 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:17.600 and and it was good for me. But and speaking 0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:21.080 of your injury and essentially missing the bulk of your 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:25.600 first three years and then UM and then following following 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:28.600 those three years, you didn't go on and signed a 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:32.440 five year, one hundred and forty eight million dollar rookie extension. 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:35.399 What did that tell you that the team was willing 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:37.280 to bet on you like that? And you probably had 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:41.200 played all the forty fifty games leading up to that. Man, 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:45.600 I remember when my agent at the time, Uh, I 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:48.480 don't have an agent anymore, but my agent at the 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:52.320 time was Leon mos He came out to me. It's like, yeah, 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:54.600 I didn't wanna, you know, resign you that want to 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:58.439 give you, you know, five year hundred or whatever that was. 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:02.160 I was like, what are you talking about. I haven't 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:05.639 played basketball, Like, I played thirty one games in three years, 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:10.600 and we're talking about you know, a Max Dill like 0:19:11.160 --> 0:19:13.720 and I only played thirty one games. And then he 0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:16.760 started going over it. He's like, yeah, but they want 0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:19.639 to put you know, all these protections and all that stuff, 0:19:19.720 --> 0:19:22.159 like this amount is gameted. And I was like, I 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:27.200 don't care how much he's guaranteed. I'm signing whatever because 0:19:27.440 --> 0:19:29.960 this is insane. Like they're giving me a hundred and 0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:34.399 fifty million after playing thirty one games. I was like, Yo, 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:37.120 they gotta be crazy, like And that was still at 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:41.480 the point where like, brother, that was my fourth year 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:47.520 or fifth year playing basketball, really my really, but when 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:49.639 I started playing in the NBA, and that was really 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:52.760 my you know, second year because I had missed you know, 0:19:52.840 --> 0:19:56.000 those three years so you know, at that point, I 0:19:56.440 --> 0:20:00.600 never really believe in myself at that point where like 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:05.000 you know, people always saw something different in me, uh 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:08.359 than I did. Like at that point, I was like, alright, 0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:10.880 I'm not even that good, Like I don't know what 0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:13.560 they're saying in me. But like if they're gonna give me, 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:16.119 if they're gonna give me this amount of money, and 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:19.000 I'm not from here, I'm from Camro, Like, yeah, I'm 0:20:19.040 --> 0:20:21.359 glad it's still it because I don't know what's gonna 0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:24.159 happen in the future. Like, you know, I I just 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:28.240 missed two years and you know, everybody's talking about he's 0:20:28.280 --> 0:20:30.840 never gonna play the end. Yeah, like he's already missed 0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:33.480 two years. They're talking about you know all the you 0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:36.840 know bus uh you know in past history and all 0:20:36.880 --> 0:20:39.760 that stuff. You know, all these bad stories coming out, 0:20:40.240 --> 0:20:42.959 you know about me, whether it was the weight and 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:45.520 all that stuff. And it was at the wrong time too, 0:20:45.560 --> 0:20:48.280 because I was at the time when I just lost 0:20:48.320 --> 0:20:50.480 my little brother, when I had to go back to 0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:53.199 kem More so you know, all that stuff was like 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:56.480 it was crazy. And you know, when you know he 0:20:56.600 --> 0:20:58.920 came up to me, it's like, yeah, this is the deal. 0:20:59.400 --> 0:21:01.560 You know they're gonna gonna get into this amount of money. 0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:06.040 I'm like, you know, I don't care like they're grant 0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:08.879 to I'm taking it because I don't know what's about 0:21:08.880 --> 0:21:11.960 to happen. Like I'm like reading into like what all 0:21:12.040 --> 0:21:14.920 these people are saying about me, Like I don't even 0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:17.280 believe in myself. I don't know how good I am 0:21:17.440 --> 0:21:20.359 and how good I'm gonna be. So I was like, yo, 0:21:20.600 --> 0:21:22.919 like I'm not I don't even want to fight it, 0:21:23.320 --> 0:21:26.000 Like I was like, just do whatever you have to do. 0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:31.520 That's incredible, man. I have a couple of questions follow 0:21:31.600 --> 0:21:34.520 ups on a couple of things you just said. Number one, 0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:39.440 talk to me about not believing in yourself because from 0:21:39.440 --> 0:21:43.679 what we've seen, um is And it's funny that you 0:21:43.760 --> 0:21:47.080 say that. And I have interests in this because I too, 0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:53.280 you know I am I am. I'm not bashful at all, 0:21:53.480 --> 0:21:55.720 just like yourself. Like if I have something to say, 0:21:55.720 --> 0:21:59.560 I'm gonna say it like yourself. And I think one 0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:05.119 thing you you exude confidence, Like when anyone see you, 0:22:05.119 --> 0:22:09.359 you exude like like we know like Joel, not only 0:22:09.400 --> 0:22:12.440 is Joel good, but Joel think he's gonna bust your ass, 0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:16.240 like no matter who you are, But to then go 0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:18.880 on to say you didn't believe in yourself, Like walk 0:22:18.960 --> 0:22:22.200 me through that journey for someone as confident as yourself 0:22:22.920 --> 0:22:26.680 to to then lose confidence and say, like, give me anything. 0:22:26.720 --> 0:22:28.880 I don't believe in me, so give me whatever. Whatever 0:22:28.920 --> 0:22:32.120 they're gonna give me, I'll take it. So I'll take 0:22:32.160 --> 0:22:35.520 you to the town line. So think about so your 0:22:35.520 --> 0:22:38.960 whole life. Uh, you know I went to you know, 0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:42.000 obviously it's cool. I was really good at school. I 0:22:42.119 --> 0:22:45.520 never really thought, Yeah, I didn't stop playing basketball until 0:22:45.520 --> 0:22:49.920 I was sixteen. So before that, I was playing you know, soccer, 0:22:50.040 --> 0:22:54.440 I was playing volleyball, so and I was actually out 0:22:54.480 --> 0:22:57.560 of one, you know, sixteen years old. I was about 0:22:57.600 --> 0:23:00.600 to actually go to France to try to become a 0:23:00.640 --> 0:23:05.840 professional volleyball player until Luke came back to look bad mute. 0:23:05.920 --> 0:23:09.200 He came back to Cameron. Then he had a campaign, which, 0:23:09.560 --> 0:23:11.280 you know, a camp I didn't even want to go 0:23:11.400 --> 0:23:14.720 to because I had just started playing basketball like three 0:23:14.760 --> 0:23:17.239 months before. That's how I was like, yo, I'm not 0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:20.200 good enough. Like you know, these guys have been playing 0:23:20.200 --> 0:23:23.479