Speaker 1: Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The Black Effect
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Speaker 1: Hopefully's when it should be? This is your point in
Speaker 1: or what up is d j e FN? This tim
Speaker 1: crazy war? Yeah? Up right now, when you're talking about
Speaker 1: state boos, when you talk about a legend, when you
Speaker 1: talk about when you google Virginia, this man face should
Speaker 1: pop up like the state farm doesn't already, I think
Speaker 1: it does. But the man we talk about bars bar lord,
Speaker 1: we talk about lyrical when you're talking about everybody from
Speaker 1: his state has to pay homage to him, the first
Speaker 1: very one from that and we won't get to the
Speaker 1: I if this is the South or notion, But the
Speaker 1: man has transition the man is a ghostwriter. He's done
Speaker 1: numerous he's still here and we're don't get to all
Speaker 1: the controversy everything, But we don't even know right now,
Speaker 1: Virginia's number one representative in a world. Motherfucking maskillers. Can't
Speaker 1: we say mankillers? You just wanted me just say something,
Speaker 1: right because we have a groun'm on here. And this
Speaker 1: became a controversy topic. He declared Virginia as being the South,
Speaker 1: but I said that Baltimore was the South to the ball.
Speaker 1: That was a controversy. People did not like Yeah. They
Speaker 1: were like, no, we are not the South. Ye be more,
Speaker 1: be more now, I wouldn't say, be more in the South.
Speaker 1: So the South starts in Virginia. Yeah, we light on
Speaker 1: the middle of the Mason Dixon and was the capital
Speaker 1: of the South, the capital of the South, you know,
Speaker 1: during the Confederacy, the wealth all day. Wow. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: kicked out of Virginia Mall because I was, um, yeah, sego.
Speaker 1: I was walking through and people were following me. And
Speaker 1: instead of like the police said yo, you know stop
Speaker 1: the people the police said you gotta go. I said, listening,
Speaker 1: I said, I said to continue. Crazy, So let's just
Speaker 1: take it back right because a lot of people got
Speaker 1: the uh well there's another for real thing too. A
Speaker 1: lot of people got Telly Rowley was like a person
Speaker 1: who kind of like made Virginia. How is that accurate
Speaker 1: to say? But Teddy was from New York? So how
Speaker 1: did how did that? How how did that go? When
Speaker 1: Teddy came down? Um, we were like enamored, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, lost so to speak, because it was
Speaker 1: like he was right there, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So you be like like nigga, Like nigga, you be
Speaker 1: in school at lunch and Nigga's like, yo, Michael Jackson's
Speaker 1: people like you. So Um, Teddy coming down and making
Speaker 1: that move opened up like he opened up a whole
Speaker 1: fucking stratosphere of opportunities. Like you gotta think Teddy's the
Speaker 1: only nigga that was a super producer and made like
Speaker 1: we're not made, but opened the door for two other
Speaker 1: super producers. Yeah, I'm got a whole genre for him,
Speaker 1: new jack Swingers, you know what I'm saying. Like, So
Speaker 1: like you you go, you know, you ride by the
Speaker 1: studio and see the fucking lamb Older for all You're
Speaker 1: like think it like it's right there. I'm saying, super close,
Speaker 1: and I don't want the places that Teddy could have went.
Speaker 1: What made him pick? You have no clue, I have
Speaker 1: no clue. I remember being at something in the water
Speaker 1: the first one. Yeah, at the Yeah, I remember being
Speaker 1: at something something in the water. My man, Bookie, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, something man bogie. We're standing there
Speaker 1: watching Teddy performed, and he's saying he said to me,
Speaker 1: he said, skills. Do you realize that Teddy is performing
Speaker 1: rump Shaker on the same beach that he shot the
Speaker 1: video hosted at a fucking festival body he put on
Speaker 1: at some amount of years later, Like, that's insane. So
Speaker 1: women was the first time because I want to be
Speaker 1: even push your tea sat shout push, So you know
Speaker 1: this is what I do when I um and a
Speaker 1: few people, I hit people that's around them, across them.
Speaker 1: He said, no real story, just that he was really
Speaker 1: the first rapper that was truly proud of from the
Speaker 1: v A he was performing with the tribe, I believe
Speaker 1: when they came to v A four show, and that
Speaker 1: alone meant that he made it in my eyes. I
Speaker 1: remember his outfit the Tommy or Polo Chino styles, zip up.
Speaker 1: We weren't like friends or anything back then. We were
Speaker 1: it even from the same town. But I thought he
Speaker 1: represented via the way I wanted it to see it done.
Speaker 1: He probably he probably doesn't remember that time, might not
Speaker 1: even remember me there. I don't. I never knew he
Speaker 1: was there, you know what I'm saying. But n like
Speaker 1: but like, but let me let me try to say
Speaker 1: a little bit when when people thought of Virginia it
Speaker 1: was one person they thought of at one time, because
Speaker 1: I know we just thought Teddy, but Teddy, Let's just
Speaker 1: be clear. Teddy from Hall yeah all day. You like
Speaker 1: when when you google you all of these people names
Speaker 1: from pushing t to around Off. What was that like?
Speaker 1: That's one part question. Let's just answer that question first.
Speaker 1: I mean, to be first was always weird. You know what
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like because it's so money and nigga's
Speaker 1: niggas forget the first. You know, I'm saying that they're
Speaker 1: quick to him saying I don't feel like we pay
Speaker 1: enough respects to the bands and the herds, and you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like like that, So it's like
Speaker 1: when you first, it's weird. But I knew that where
Speaker 1: I was from had to be represented in a way
Speaker 1: that people hadn't seen it before, you know what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 1: so it was niggas calling us country, niggas calling us baders.
Speaker 1: It's the same same ship with Atlanta in a way,
Speaker 1: like my nigga like like we we we get fucking busy,
Speaker 1: like we do what we do. Like half of your
Speaker 1: nigga's down here in school anyway, come down and get
Speaker 1: show money, drug money. You know what I'm saying that
Speaker 1: this is what it is. So it's like what you
Speaker 1: ain't gonna do is clown on us. But nobody was
Speaker 1: out there. The only nigga was was Dangelo, and that's
Speaker 1: R and B Like like, oh you know Diangel little
Speaker 1: you know. I'm like, Nick, what you want to do? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm like he came out first, so I shouldn't have
Speaker 1: dropped the album dropped. He's held as a R and
Speaker 1: B superstar and he's like, oh, you know, he don't
Speaker 1: really say the town. I'm like a lot of pussy.
Speaker 1: I'm like, nigging here, on B artist, what you want
Speaker 1: to make a song called fucking cruising in Richmond? Like
Speaker 1: he on B artists so it was up to me
Speaker 1: too to hold that flag. And I was like, when
Speaker 1: I get the shot, like it's gonna be a problem
Speaker 1: because it was like Michael Vick and yes, and then
Speaker 1: you like was it yeah? And then we kind of
Speaker 1: knew because I want to say, like I don't want
Speaker 1: to say like like conscious, but you were like you
Speaker 1: you're aware. But when we looked at Michael and we
Speaker 1: were looked at these guys, and then we looked up
Speaker 1: Newport News, yeah, bad news. Yeah, So what was it
Speaker 1: like hearing hearing these guys or you. Yeah, we called
Speaker 1: we called a bubba chuck. What I'm saying, like, we
Speaker 1: need that's all we knew, so vic bubba chuck to
Speaker 1: see them make it, you know what I'm saying. We
Speaker 1: knew like that we had people in that we were talented,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Because you gotta understand, like
Speaker 1: I'm from where I'm from. I'm from a town called Richmonds,
Speaker 1: like an hour away from where for rele there. So yeah,
Speaker 1: they filmed like Virginia Beach, but seven cities in that
Speaker 1: whole region. So imagine imagine fucking Miami, Imagine Florida Miami.
Speaker 1: And let's say Fort Myers is twenty minutes away. Orlando's
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes away, fucking and it's a whole different city.
Speaker 1: So they got seven different cities from where I'm from,
Speaker 1: like an hour back towards in Inland. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like rich med so like to see Ai
Speaker 1: and Vic. Man, it was like somebody you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And they was rapping in D'Angelo. He was
Speaker 1: rapping it but he he r and b So it's
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, He ain't about the way
Speaker 1: eight chains in the vena what I'm saying. So ay man,
Speaker 1: it's like a guy him and Vic like gods what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Wow? Wow, man, let's make some noise for that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know bootles, you want to move boggles, Bros.
Speaker 1: Getn't camera bro Oh that's what they what we got.
Speaker 1: But you're like regular ship, right, get my part? We
Speaker 1: do it? Yeah? So um so boom, how did you
Speaker 1: even come up? Two? Okay, okay, put you on cue tip.
Speaker 1: I was discovering by Q tip you went too fast.
Speaker 1: Let's let's describe that. Is this this show that what
Speaker 1: your tea is talking about? Yes? Well later, So so
Speaker 1: ninety three, I'll go to Jack the Rapper in the landing.
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, hold on. Those those are the days.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to be old right now, but listen, your
Speaker 1: motherfucker's at Give me to look at your Instagram and
Speaker 1: you get tags we used to have called Jack the
Speaker 1: fucking Reverence. Yeah. We we're gonna fucking line to see
Speaker 1: DJ read Alert thanks to C. D J. Collins to
Speaker 1: see these people. Yeah, and that was real great. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: you just gotta be a flashback. I'm sorry, man, I
Speaker 1: called the Holy Ghost the Holy rap Ghost. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Was on the original. Yeah, yeah, original before before I
Speaker 1: could after. So go to I go to Atlanta with
Speaker 1: with three of my homies and I'm in this lobby
Speaker 1: I got. We got passed it, so we legit. We
Speaker 1: ain't sneaking around. We got you know, we paid the money,
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I'm walking around and it's just
Speaker 1: it's in the lobby. It's huge ass hotel, fucking sixty floors, right.
Speaker 1: So I see these niggas in the corner like bopping,
Speaker 1: like niggas is like it's it's a b playing out
Speaker 1: of here. B I see niggas like bopping. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: who that that be hard saying. I'll walk over and
Speaker 1: I see fucking cut it. But it's it's it. It's
Speaker 1: it's like, imagine this this this ship right here, This
Speaker 1: is a plant, but it's like the lobby so big.
Speaker 1: It's a fucking tree in the lobby. But bone, this
Speaker 1: is just some of that Midnight Marauders is about to come.
Speaker 1: He's he's this is out of this. He found out
Speaker 1: like he was doing he had did one love. He
Speaker 1: did the mob deep ship like Nigga's like, oh he
Speaker 1: doing them beat? So I see it was a producer
Speaker 1: from from Jersey's name is lot Teeth. These niggas had
Speaker 1: a radio and they're bopping, and I'm looking and I
Speaker 1: can't get in. It's too many niggas around to get in.
Speaker 1: I go to the back of the fucking tree. This
Speaker 1: ship is like six feet tall. It's like a fucking
Speaker 1: potted plant. I crawled up on the back of the
Speaker 1: ship and walk over. So this nigga looks over his shoulder,
Speaker 1: came out of the tree like he looks over his shoulder, like, damn,
Speaker 1: who is sonning the trees? But I'm bobbing and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm vibing, so nig ain't trying to rob, you know,
Speaker 1: so some tips like nothing, so it's a nigga rapping
Speaker 1: for cute tip and I'm sitting there like, no nigga
Speaker 1: like now it's now, so I bom I started rapping.
Speaker 1: So I started rapping and he like he looking like yo,
Speaker 1: this nigga crazy, like this ship crazy. The nigga that
Speaker 1: I cut off cut me back off. So now I'm
Speaker 1: so I cut him off, go mucking. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: was definitely back I go him by body. The nigga
Speaker 1: security comes over, Yo, y'all gotta disperse your my man
Speaker 1: come down at the tree like y'are doing too much?
Speaker 1: Are you doing? Ship in the tree? Where from the trip?
Speaker 1: So I get up off the tree, but I'm standing
Speaker 1: over to the side, and you know, niggas is walking
Speaker 1: up the ship like this is my tape You're from
Speaker 1: Jersey with people. But I see him. He keeps like
Speaker 1: looking to it right like I guess to see if
Speaker 1: I'm there. So I'm like, I ain't going to way,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna stay here. So I'm standing there. I
Speaker 1: see the nigga. He's like, yo, yo, commit something. So
Speaker 1: I walked over like, Yo, what's your name? I said,
Speaker 1: Mad Skills. He's like, yo, saying you else where are you?
Speaker 1: Where you from? Sir? I was like, I'm from I'm
Speaker 1: from Virginia. He's like from where? I said Virginia. He
Speaker 1: was like, you know what you're doing? After this, I said,
Speaker 1: now I'm just chilling my nigga, Like what what's up?
Speaker 1: He's like, Yo, you want to roll to this radio station?
Speaker 1: And I was like fuck yeah. We go up to
Speaker 1: his room. This first time I seen the nigga had
Speaker 1: a sweet. I'm used to walk in the hotel rooms
Speaker 1: and this is the fucking hotel. We walk in the room,
Speaker 1: it's the sweet. I'm like, oh, they got the whole.
Speaker 1: She's like polo shit everywhere, fucking closed tims. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying this. Then in the third he said,
Speaker 1: y'all gonna get dressed real quick. Let me change the
Speaker 1: old sitting quick yo, And it's a CD player right
Speaker 1: here goes the nigga goes, but it's cute, and I'm
Speaker 1: saying so the nigga goes, jo Um, I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: dressed real quick, yo. This the album and then niggat
Speaker 1: hit a button and I hear way and comes out
Speaker 1: like before the only thing out US Awards tour. No,
Speaker 1: it's just me if you if you didn't come, who
Speaker 1: you are, nigga? Pep straight locks no Instagram back then.
Speaker 1: So I'm sitting there and I'm like what then is
Speaker 1: that some jash like what the fund did this? And
Speaker 1: I had but the Linden Bulevard represented and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: Ship like the fucking album, so I hate the fucking album.
Speaker 1: I think the next song was Awards. So I think
Speaker 1: the next song was the fight. Uh went through Lyndon
Speaker 1: Boulevard to get the milkshakes. This nigga comes out of
Speaker 1: the room like, Yo, you're ready. I'm like yeah, like nigga,
Speaker 1: because I like you, elder you at that point, Ship,
Speaker 1: I'm like early twenties. Like one we get in the elevator,
Speaker 1: light throws in the elevator, his road manager, we go downstairs.
Speaker 1: We go downstairs, and me being thinking mind I had
Speaker 1: one of those yellow fucking code that caim I said, Yo,
Speaker 1: let's take a picture real quick. He's like, all right, cool,
Speaker 1: the van is supposed to come up take the picture.
Speaker 1: This little kid walks into the picture. I got to
Speaker 1: it on my grands crazy little kid walks into the picture.
Speaker 1: I get into the van, slide over. He get in
Speaker 1: the front seat. This nigger goes, Yo, this is my
Speaker 1: man merse and this mace and I turned around and
Speaker 1: daylight as in the fucking back of the van, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, nigga, I'm in the name or something like,
Speaker 1: this was you? Officially No, I wasn't, but I swear
Speaker 1: I wish I was. And he like he like, he
Speaker 1: tells post. He goes, you're the nigger. I possible. He crazy,
Speaker 1: he's like your Sonniger that he was lady to talk.
Speaker 1: I think about it. This is you know, while it's
Speaker 1: like bred man is technically woo tags get it? Yeah yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, So the hip hop Confession series, right, what
Speaker 1: was what was the motive behind that? Well? I started
Speaker 1: that's just like ten years old, right, So I started it.
Speaker 1: And this is what's crazy. I not not really. I'm
Speaker 1: running around and I'm asking niggas like ship like yo,
Speaker 1: like tell me some stories, like tell me some hip
Speaker 1: hop show, like what's what's your hip hop confessions? So
Speaker 1: it was niggas like, yo, you know, I never really
Speaker 1: you know, listen to songs. So I don't like songs
Speaker 1: or as the MC. I know you the hottest thing
Speaker 1: gout don't like them like it was you would say
Speaker 1: that you really wouldn't say around the homes. So hip
Speaker 1: Hop Confession started because me and Big sat down and
Speaker 1: I had it. Yeah, and I had a whole it
Speaker 1: was a whole TV show. Yeah, yeah, I had an
Speaker 1: old TV show and we put the ship out and
Speaker 1: then after like six episodes, it got it got harder
Speaker 1: to find niggas to to want to tell the truth,
Speaker 1: to tell stories. So I fell back off the ship.
Speaker 1: Than a year later podcast happened, and I'm like, fuck,
Speaker 1: NIGA was earlier. So the nigga has been asked me
Speaker 1: for ten years straight, YO, bring back hip Hop Confessions.
Speaker 1: So I just brought it back like this year. I
Speaker 1: just wrunn about so um super Naps, what was your
Speaker 1: relationship your battle I mean, if he was a battle
Speaker 1: MC at that time, you're going through Supernatural. I send it.
Speaker 1: I sended the demo in the back of the source
Speaker 1: to Clark Kent Superman Battle for Work. Yeah, that's my
Speaker 1: old g I have funny Clark Kent story too. Everybody
Speaker 1: I send it. I send the tape in and fucking
Speaker 1: I get picked. I get to New York and it's
Speaker 1: the New Music Seminars thirty off right there on fucking
Speaker 1: Midtown Manhattan, fucking forty nine on whatever, Hella Green Badges
Speaker 1: all that ship. So it's sixteen M sees that the
Speaker 1: DJ battle did the rap Battle. It's sixteen M sees.
Speaker 1: I see this one nigga walking with dreads. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is nike A different, Like it's gonna be me
Speaker 1: and him like this Nigga different. So he started running,
Speaker 1: running past motherfucker's getting them out of there. I'm doing
Speaker 1: the same thing. Puffers Puffer is on the Judge of Table,
Speaker 1: Tracy Waits, Sheena Leicester and Todd one from from MTV,
Speaker 1: from your TV raps. So nigga get to the end
Speaker 1: and dam is there like this nigga can't like, they
Speaker 1: can't decide who's gonna win. And I think the winner
Speaker 1: was you got a demo deal and the jacket and
Speaker 1: a ring, and then the second person got the demo.
Speaker 1: They nobody know about that. So Boo mus keep going
Speaker 1: back and forth. He hopped in the crowd. He freestyle
Speaker 1: about what niggas get on, I hop into crowding after him,
Speaker 1: freestyle by what niggas. Niggas like yo, these niggas said,
Speaker 1: what they have on? He like Clark like Yo. They're
Speaker 1: going back and forth, puff like nah, man like these niggas,
Speaker 1: don't let them go to Clark like yo, Nigga is like,
Speaker 1: we got to get the funk out of here. So
Speaker 1: they do the whole um the apologip yo' giving up
Speaker 1: give it up for supernatural from Brooklyn, give it up
Speaker 1: for mad skills from Virginia. Later I find out he
Speaker 1: from Brooklyn, but then he was from Indiana. But then
Speaker 1: he then they say, like, Yo, this man was nice enough.
Speaker 1: He's gonna take the ring in the jacket. He's gonna
Speaker 1: give him the demo deal. So I'm like, I don't
Speaker 1: want the fucking demo deal and they want the ring
Speaker 1: in the fucking jacket Like me, I want to be
Speaker 1: the best. I'm not coming up here to be second.
Speaker 1: So I came in second and I got the demo deal,
Speaker 1: which which kept me in tune with Clark. I go
Speaker 1: outside and it's a cipher outside jay Z outside demolishing
Speaker 1: niggas running through blow for us. No niggas sign rappers
Speaker 1: was looking at the cipher like, oh you're not I
Speaker 1: want the props with this and getting straight in the
Speaker 1: car service like our home was killing niggas young. It's
Speaker 1: a young green Landing and they're looking like a fucking
Speaker 1: fourteen year old hole and Clark is behind him acting
Speaker 1: out all the words this and the dird But me
Speaker 1: and Clark ended up having a relationship afterwards, and Clark
Speaker 1: did my demo. I used to go to Clark's house
Speaker 1: and talk about is he like a dumb man? Record? No? No, no,
Speaker 1: I would go to Clark kiss I'm driving, driving, I
Speaker 1: dropped back and forth and I'm going to Clark's house
Speaker 1: and I'm still trying to I came in second, so
Speaker 1: I'm still trying to prove not Nick, I'm the best.
Speaker 1: And He's like, y'all want you listen to this nigger
Speaker 1: I got named named Jay And I'm like all right.
Speaker 1: So he played me records and Ship and I'm like
Speaker 1: you I'll smash that nigger Clark and he like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: comes to listen to record. Listen to the records again.
Speaker 1: He played he played me in a record call What's
Speaker 1: in the name? Ship was most crazy shot I heard
Speaker 1: my life. He was talking about he was talking about hustling,
Speaker 1: but he was talking. He was using his names and
Speaker 1: the sort like rappers name. It's crazy. It's still ten
Speaker 1: records I heard at Clark's house I've never heard before.
Speaker 1: So then I guess maybe after the third time me
Speaker 1: and Clark did some ship, Clark just gets tired of
Speaker 1: and he like, he played me another jay Z record.
Speaker 1: I'm listening to the ship. I'm like, I see your
Speaker 1: club man, Yo, put me in the room. Then they
Speaker 1: got I bought it, and he like, Nigga, I funk
Speaker 1: with you. I'm gonna do your demos. Jay Z is
Speaker 1: at Jesus Christ a rat. Stop talking about j Jesus
Speaker 1: Christ a rat like you got He's like before before.
Speaker 1: So at this point I'm like, I'm like the g
Speaker 1: so boom, I'm doing it yours. Fast forward way later,
Speaker 1: I'm in ninety eight or somethhing. I I'm signed with Timberland.
Speaker 1: We're in the Manhattan Center and in the little studio
Speaker 1: knocking out joint. So it's me. I want to say, Tim, Pete, Pablo,
Speaker 1: and Jimmy Douglas, right Tim, I think Pete is there
Speaker 1: don't give me the line. They left me and Jimmy
Speaker 1: Douglass in the studio this ninety eight whole. This nigger
Speaker 1: comes into the studio, just me, Jimmy Douglass, jay Z.
Speaker 1: He like, yo, we're tim man. He's like yo, he left.
Speaker 1: I think he'd be right back. He said, yo, pull
Speaker 1: pull it up? What he what he wants me to
Speaker 1: pull it up? He pulls the beat up beat playing,
Speaker 1: and this nigger takes the tennis ball and just starts
Speaker 1: throwing the tennis ball to the floor, to the wall,
Speaker 1: back to his hand, floor to the wall, back to
Speaker 1: his hand. He just mumbling, floor to the wall, back
Speaker 1: to his hand, floor to the wall, back to his
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. The nigga looks at Jimmy Duginson goes your bravery.
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there like I'm ready for I heard I
Speaker 1: heard rumors, right, because her rumors, Jay don't right. Never,
Speaker 1: I'm like nigga. This nigga goes into the booth. Is
Speaker 1: you're Pemp nigga, Yeah, Pemp nigga, Loso shrip nigga, los
Speaker 1: shrimp nigga, and what's her name? Jinger? And I can't
Speaker 1: like nigga starts doing the verse right, Nigga starts rapping nigga.
Speaker 1: But like jajover Nigga before, I never got no player.
Speaker 1: Now these bitches wanted to give me more head this
Speaker 1: shot day. When I'm in l A, the the six
Speaker 1: Fords ill, when I'm in a t Ellis to coop
Speaker 1: the Ville. When I'm in Miami, I'm hopping through on
Speaker 1: the all black Ninja with the sock over my shoe,
Speaker 1: Mommy sending the chew like who can stopping you? I'm like, yo, nigger,
Speaker 1: like this nigga did all this ship in one tape.
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there going yet this thing is a great
Speaker 1: like we ra that niggas like, I've never seen it before.
Speaker 1: But hol fucking did that ship in like one take
Speaker 1: and left. It was like back two versus two hooks left.
Speaker 1: I didn't to get the sea chap no no. And
Speaker 1: then months later I hit a record and I'm just
Speaker 1: like this, it's naked bad he different. So your whole
Speaker 1: NAS category, who are you going with? I would have
Speaker 1: to say j because you experienced that nos. Nas watched
Speaker 1: me on the song though, so and NAS watched me
Speaker 1: on a Timberland song like straight did me in so
Speaker 1: so he next year we did a song together called
Speaker 1: to My Niggas and Uh, I did my verse Classics Ship.
Speaker 1: I did my verse and I'm fucking I'm on Tim's
Speaker 1: album and Ship the song comes out, I'm like, oh, Ship,
Speaker 1: I'm on a song with na fucking be come on it,
Speaker 1: don't stop be come on. I'm like, oh, Ship, nos
Speaker 1: about to be on this song. This thick comes out.
Speaker 1: Know it splats your dudes and cats. I used I
Speaker 1: used hanging off my chest because my cash improved. I'm
Speaker 1: just like, oh, I didn't get a chance to change
Speaker 1: my ship, like nigga like this. Nigga was like instead
Speaker 1: of Benny Honness, y'all can eat plenty of nass. Like
Speaker 1: this nigga is going hell. And I'm just like, I
Speaker 1: go back to Virginia. Nigga's like, yeah, you got washed
Speaker 1: going on. But then I got a song with nas
Speaker 1: and I'm saying, take it away from you, because you know,
Speaker 1: for years, the year long discussion was who had the
Speaker 1: better verse of bad and TV right for me? Right?
Speaker 1: And I actually really don't care. But you know, sometimes
Speaker 1: when I pay attention, but overwall, I always looked at
Speaker 1: the record as its totality. I never looked at you know,
Speaker 1: part had the better verse or nature had the better verse.
Speaker 1: I think I had the better problem. I didn't like
Speaker 1: when you don't look at it my totality. Everybody didn't
Speaker 1: at But does that take away from the record when
Speaker 1: when people look at it like that, when people look
Speaker 1: at it like this verse like to me, I look
Speaker 1: I like ren the game as a total soul. I
Speaker 1: didn't relate to Marshall's verse, But I didn't say Marshall's
Speaker 1: versus whack. I like it just saw does that there's
Speaker 1: a factor that you Marshall watched him on that though
Speaker 1: the only time Hope ever, guy was you know why?
Speaker 1: You know what? For me? You know why? For me?
Speaker 1: Like when j J is rapping, he's doing jay. When
Speaker 1: fucking Eminem starts rapping, it sounds like somebody's playing a instrument.
Speaker 1: It sounds like a nigga sat down like the keys
Speaker 1: and win. Now, when I'm in the position to talk
Speaker 1: to these kids and they listen, I ain't no politician,
Speaker 1: but I kicking with it, and I'm just like who
Speaker 1: I got to agree with you, but I also have
Speaker 1: to disagree with you because if they're talking about ship
Speaker 1: that I don't care, like absolutely kill you and they
Speaker 1: don't disrespect then yeah, no, never visires killing my mom's
Speaker 1: like that's whe go. No, I got mad at her
Speaker 1: plenty of time. Let out here. We are as young
Speaker 1: as black men, as funked up as our lives. It's coming.
Speaker 1: We love our mom waks like like like hot was
Speaker 1: like even though he wasn't crashing like Nigga, we could
Speaker 1: never make a video fucking putting up shovel of our
Speaker 1: mom and if we did, BT wouldn't playoffs. I was
Speaker 1: killing the bags giving that you got a video. So
Speaker 1: I'm how I saw my mama like Nigga wasn't like,
Speaker 1: But for me, it's just his caduce Like I've never
Speaker 1: seen understand what you're saying. I'm never looking at the
Speaker 1: technicality of how he's wrong because I've never seen nobody
Speaker 1: fucking manipulate vows the way that Nigga do. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about him like when you listen to lose yourself like
Speaker 1: the two viale sounds and lose yourself as um and
Speaker 1: et right, you got um, you got so when he
Speaker 1: starts sucking wrapping moms spaghetti, these weak arms are heavy.
Speaker 1: That's vomit on his sweater already, Moms spaghetti. He's nervous,
Speaker 1: but on the surface he looks calm and ready to
Speaker 1: drop bomb, like he when when he puts together ship.
Speaker 1: But when you puts together ship, I know it's as
Speaker 1: close to perfect as it can be because the motherfucker
Speaker 1: take full Like Nigga, we walk into booth one take hold.
Speaker 1: We think we want to take hold, Like know what
Speaker 1: I'm doing, Nigga said, trash, know what I'm saying, like
Speaker 1: he will sit down and go. These are the words
Speaker 1: that fucking fit. No other words in the English ain't
Speaker 1: wha was fit because if they did, they'd be here.
Speaker 1: It's like he's writing music, Nike. I've taught classes on him.
Speaker 1: But I think one of the craziest songs of all
Speaker 1: time is the Gun. Yes, yes, yes, that's it is incredible. Man.
Speaker 1: I couldn't understand how you did that? Right? Did that?
Speaker 1: What is a song writing? Yes? Very very much so,
Speaker 1: but also to the point of where it's like like
Speaker 1: some people just gifted you know what I'm saying, to
Speaker 1: be able to like we've heard motherfucker's to signify themselves
Speaker 1: as weed and but signify themselves as hip hop and
Speaker 1: should I did it. Naws is different when it comes
Speaker 1: to that ship and then it gets still looking twenty one,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, so he not he
Speaker 1: wanted the greats man, So I was happy to get
Speaker 1: washed on the song by by Esco. Now, when we
Speaker 1: move with you a lot, one of the first things
Speaker 1: that come up is this famous ghost ride, right, which
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna tell you nothing. I just said, but
Speaker 1: how is one go about that? Like what happens? It's
Speaker 1: the record lady. When I suggested that no no, I
Speaker 1: was in New York, New York DJ at the time,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna say what he was, he was right
Speaker 1: for fabulously check a little bit. Just now, I'm in
Speaker 1: the studio and I'm you know, I'm just in New York.
Speaker 1: I'm Virginia nigga from in New York, like, and I
Speaker 1: have signed a big beat and fucking he comes in
Speaker 1: into the wrong room like like, oh, ship, I thought
Speaker 1: I thought this was the beat room. I said, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's next door whatever. He's like, okay, cool, oh ship
Speaker 1: skills Right, I'm like, yeah, you know what you're working on?
Speaker 1: So I play him some ship and they're like, no,
Speaker 1: this ship hard, nigga, let me get this, and I'm
Speaker 1: like the DJ saying yeah, but the only thing order
Speaker 1: is the hook. He's like, you should let me get
Speaker 1: this and I'm like, yeah, let me let me put
Speaker 1: my wraps on it. I'm not knowing that the nigga
Speaker 1: saying I want this and I want to put other
Speaker 1: rappers on it. I don't. I don't talk with you
Speaker 1: like this. I know who you are. You use cool,
Speaker 1: but this ship hard. The first time bom ship comes,
Speaker 1: what's you said? This was? I want together? It might
Speaker 1: have been unique, have been unique, and then um so
Speaker 1: I give him the ship was the hook and it
Speaker 1: ship comes out. They hit me for the splits. I
Speaker 1: got a big percentage of the record, but considered writing
Speaker 1: yet because you know, but nobody knew that. But I
Speaker 1: hear these rapping niggas saying my hook and I'm just like, damn.
Speaker 1: They they could put me on the record, but they
Speaker 1: read did the hook the hook? The check comes and
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm good. I don't gotta be.
Speaker 1: I don't gotta be on the record what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So then my name started moving around like yo yo,
Speaker 1: Because some niggers have businesses and ENTI season, they don't
Speaker 1: have the time to sit down the craft the Hot
Speaker 1: six teams. So that's where somebody like me coming there
Speaker 1: because we hear these funny stories like Rico Love and
Speaker 1: you know my friend car Dad. Uh. You know, they're
Speaker 1: very honorable too, But that's I always want to know, like, like,
Speaker 1: how does that happen? So you're saying that was the
Speaker 1: first time, all right to what your words? That? Yo? Right?
Speaker 1: So now I'm like, oh, I'm gonna just send this
Speaker 1: c D to whoooooom and they're like, yo, who wrote this?
Speaker 1: Like oh, you know the nigga skills from Virginia? Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: not nigga nigga pull up. So it was it was
Speaker 1: getting me in doors that I might not have been
Speaker 1: able to get in before I take something, I'll tell
Speaker 1: you something, and I blew this up for um. I
Speaker 1: used to going Farrell sessions and he used to have
Speaker 1: old records for people, and I used to be like,
Speaker 1: oh with the verses. I used to like, oh, ship,
Speaker 1: you're gonna kill us, and He's like stuff for me,
Speaker 1: but I'd be him referenced out, yeah, you mean him
Speaker 1: doing he said. He said, of them, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: threw it up here, plenty of them. Is that how
Speaker 1: you do it? Like you just send himself? But my
Speaker 1: thing is and I'm right, I right, you know I
Speaker 1: started with hip hop, but should I hadn't done like
Speaker 1: fucking you know, R and B records, Pop records. So
Speaker 1: after a while, I it's like I might reference the
Speaker 1: whole thing, but then just leave something for the artists
Speaker 1: if they want to hop in what I'm saying and
Speaker 1: make it their own, like lead the bridge open, lead
Speaker 1: the second verse open. You know what I'm saying. What
Speaker 1: did you think? I'm sorry, I cut you up. I'm
Speaker 1: going good. What did you think about when you heard
Speaker 1: Drake reference tracks? It was I don't have the sooner later?
Speaker 1: What do you mean by that? Like they was gonna
Speaker 1: come out? You know what I'm saying. Like because at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, nigga's like us, we can
Speaker 1: in nineties seven ninety eight, we gave a fun you
Speaker 1: and then if you tell me, Rock Him didn't write
Speaker 1: microphone film knocking all this ship exactly. But for these
Speaker 1: kids today, like they don't fucking care, Like niggas don't
Speaker 1: even have to. They don't even have a proper place
Speaker 1: to go look to find the credits. Does that matter?
Speaker 1: No matter? A hit record matters, A hit record matters
Speaker 1: who wrote it? Don't matter in one. You ain't even
Speaker 1: right your ship. I'm gonna be honest with you. This
Speaker 1: is how I knew. I was on the fence a
Speaker 1: little bit. One of my greatest records that I love,
Speaker 1: it's Easy saying ice Cube drives that I say, and
Speaker 1: I grew up the whole time. Now find the actually
Speaker 1: was yeah, the thing easy he actually said said everybody
Speaker 1: knew Easy wasn't a rapper. Every we didn't. I didn't
Speaker 1: know event I'm gonna be honest one. I was scared
Speaker 1: of it way you're scared of competent to see. I
Speaker 1: thought Compton was jail like Regen's was like, oh shoot,
Speaker 1: I don't wanta I gotta arrest it one time. I'm
Speaker 1: don't take you to Compton. But he's like, what I was?
Speaker 1: You know, Levin, But they made it notorious? When now,
Speaker 1: how how is it I look at Easy as a great?
Speaker 1: And he said that, how is it I look at
Speaker 1: Dr Dre as a great? And he said that I
Speaker 1: look at the care if I write rhymes, I write, Paul,
Speaker 1: I look at him. It's a great But if I
Speaker 1: found out that balance rope, mad skills, well I'm mad
Speaker 1: at you, right, I get it. Why is that because
Speaker 1: we because we you know what it is, we still
Speaker 1: at some point we still want to believe niggas. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like when when I understand pre
Speaker 1: pre spotifaller ship, when I went to the Best Buy
Speaker 1: and I spent eighteen dollars on your fucking CD and
Speaker 1: I got in the car and put that ship in.
Speaker 1: I still believe some of them, like we believe Like
Speaker 1: you said, I believe if I went to Compton and
Speaker 1: I wasn't right, I believe I would get robbed out
Speaker 1: of the gate. Like niggas made us believe everything else,
Speaker 1: so that the lifestyle and the ship came along with it.
Speaker 1: And what you gotta understand is when you put out
Speaker 1: that kind of ship, that's what's gonna come back to you.
Speaker 1: So I never forget O G told me like Yo,
Speaker 1: like Nigga said, Yo, make rhymes. Who you want to
Speaker 1: see in the hotel lobby after your show? Who? O G?
Speaker 1: And Philly? I did a show with the roofs and
Speaker 1: me and my DJ and the lobby drinking and the
Speaker 1: nigga like he's sitting there and the nigga said, Yo,
Speaker 1: you know who told me that? You say, because you
Speaker 1: were trapping on the record. I'm sorry. The nigga said, Yo,
Speaker 1: what y'all do? I said, y'all I wrapped. He was like,
Speaker 1: you make music? I said yeah, because he just did
Speaker 1: the Electric Factory. She was sold out. Who do you mean?
Speaker 1: He's like, hey, let me tell you something, young blood,
Speaker 1: and he got about it. That got us Gary leave.
Speaker 1: Nigga walked off and then tap me on the show.
Speaker 1: He said, YO, make records for who you want to
Speaker 1: see in the lobby after your show. And I said,
Speaker 1: why the funk? I ain't even making records for bitches
Speaker 1: this whole time because after after at my show, after
Speaker 1: my show, I get niggessn't want to talk about why
Speaker 1: Trip called Quest broke up? And what's my top five?
Speaker 1: Like I don't get like I might get women, but
Speaker 1: not like l L you know what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 1: but you don't think it's a difference between who considered
Speaker 1: themselves a rapper versus an MC or you think that's
Speaker 1: going too deep that might be a little deep because
Speaker 1: at some you know, after a while, it's like motherfucker's
Speaker 1: can't really gauge the difference between the two. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like the lines get blurred. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: lines definitely get blurred between you who's living in and
Speaker 1: who ain't. And then it's like who kids like these
Speaker 1: motherfucker's ain't breakdancing. They ain't writing your feeding about this.
Speaker 1: They're definitely not. You're not doing nothing that I did it.
Speaker 1: I did everything that I did just to do it.
Speaker 1: I did. I did too. I did too. I had
Speaker 1: my fucking my first My first rap name was fucking
Speaker 1: corny as fun. But my first rap name is MC
Speaker 1: y'all who with the ball to be? It's true, he
Speaker 1: says it all the time. I'm mad didn't work out.
Speaker 1: My first name was the Funky Orators. Come on that
Speaker 1: right now. That doesn't at all something that at all?
Speaker 1: So all right, kids entertainment, he won that was your
Speaker 1: label and the kids entertainment. Yea. Yeah, it's just me
Speaker 1: trying to keep as much of the bread as I could.
Speaker 1: Okay what I'm saying, Okay, keep a because you know
Speaker 1: they wasn't spend all of us went through contact one,
Speaker 1: every everybody, everybody, everybody, which was land speed before that.
Speaker 1: When it was right after this was I think there's
Speaker 1: at the gym, got of popping you fly high. You
Speaker 1: know what we don't forgetting he got last week, get
Speaker 1: this thing on there to fifty he put out ship
Speaker 1: through there. No, I think that was in the original lands,
Speaker 1: but I'm talking about pop lands. Fifty dragged it after like,
Speaker 1: thank you, sir. Do some shots man, kids and god,
Speaker 1: water man, this is not water chipping out for you,
Speaker 1: for you, for you. I got. I'm a white right,
Speaker 1: I'm do a white grape shot a white gap we got.
Speaker 1: We gotta shout out the Organic Food Kings's incredible. We
Speaker 1: got the truck outside at Organic Food Kings. Make sure
Speaker 1: you check them out. We're gonna beating them all the time.
Speaker 1: Right now, that's the same ship. No, it's different color.
Speaker 1: That's one is bootleg? Which one is bootleg? We don't
Speaker 1: want so what would say? Oh yeah, y'all holding on,
Speaker 1: you got you still got your pit bullshit. They cut
Speaker 1: you with jack. That's that's why that's right here now,
Speaker 1: that's why it always comes out for the shot. So boom,
Speaker 1: the older go back to Q tip was this pre
Speaker 1: or post the beef with with Rex in Effect posts,
Speaker 1: So how is that weird? Like because that's Virginia. I
Speaker 1: had to get involved that. Yeah, Like no, it was
Speaker 1: um you know because Rex in Effect was halland but
Speaker 1: they was running around in Virginia Beach with Teddy. You know,
Speaker 1: I think they I think they took offense to something
Speaker 1: that fight said Fife said, strictly hardcore tracks, not a
Speaker 1: new Jack swing God bless God bless fight. Um, and
Speaker 1: they thought they felt some kind of way about it.
Speaker 1: You know, I wasn't unstan he becoming that a lot
Speaker 1: of people. Yeah, he has to wear always like doing
Speaker 1: this thing like um yeah, but I think they jumped
Speaker 1: him with some ship and he had the patch of
Speaker 1: the video the video Sex on the Platfort Sex on
Speaker 1: the Fat. They say, here, I don't know that's that's
Speaker 1: we talked about it. We talked about it with ship.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that yeah, yeah, yeah, so we forget
Speaker 1: a lot of But now he was very instrumental and
Speaker 1: you know, I'm running around with him and like I said,
Speaker 1: after when I met him after the night after the
Speaker 1: Jack the rapping ship, he gave me his number. So
Speaker 1: I get back home and my my mom said, yo. Um.
Speaker 1: Like two weeks later, my mom said, Yo, somebody named
Speaker 1: RiPP called you. I'm like, who she likes? Somebody named Ripped?
Speaker 1: I don't know. He left a message in the answer machine.
Speaker 1: So I go hit the button on the answer machine
Speaker 1: and I heard, Yo, you know what I'm saying this
Speaker 1: this this just tipping. I'm saying, yo, Yo, I want
Speaker 1: to know something like how before you live from Hampton, Virginia.
Speaker 1: Son hit me up. So I get off the phone.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Yo, this ship is crazy. He's like, my
Speaker 1: fucking life could change. So I called nigga back. He
Speaker 1: asked me how far I lived from via from Hampton,
Speaker 1: which is down there. Bob Pea Mack. I go to
Speaker 1: the show and I've been with him. I have been
Speaker 1: done a a couple of shows with it all nv A.
Speaker 1: I go to this show and they would let me
Speaker 1: freestyle at the end over God Lives through the beat
Speaker 1: for God Lives through. So we we do it. My
Speaker 1: man with me. We're leaving. We're leaving, about to ride
Speaker 1: back to Richmond down down the highway. This nigga comes
Speaker 1: up behind me with sucking silver goloshes. Then he had
Speaker 1: silver gobbles on his head, a silver Donna Karen fucking jacket,
Speaker 1: some black pants, and some silver Donna Karen fucking rain boots.
Speaker 1: And nigga says, yo, man, won't you just on stage
Speaker 1: with tipping them? And I was like yeah, and he
Speaker 1: was like, yo, I gotta I gotta meet him, Man,
Speaker 1: you gotta introduce me. And while we're standing there talking,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this nigga, like, Yo, this nig is
Speaker 1: weird as fun. The toll buses at the light blinker
Speaker 1: blinker on ship about the move and I'm sitting there
Speaker 1: looking at this nigga and he's like, yo, I said, Yo,
Speaker 1: you rapp He said yeah. I said what's your name?
Speaker 1: He said, Magnum the verb Lord. I said, oh okay,
Speaker 1: So I started beat boxing. My man starts sucking rapping.
Speaker 1: These niggas rapping about the planets and they want to
Speaker 1: keep Mary ship. And that was what they say that
Speaker 1: what was his name an Agnum the verb Lord. That
Speaker 1: was his rapping name. I went with the government, but
Speaker 1: super ill like that's how that's the first time met
Speaker 1: for Rell. So come I want to get back to that.
Speaker 1: But I want to ask you something. You said he
Speaker 1: was freestyle right right, that's a freestyle. Really have to
Speaker 1: be a freestyle the age old conversation. I would say
Speaker 1: a freestyle could be two things. It could be a
Speaker 1: rhyme you never heard, or could be something made up
Speaker 1: in PROMPTU right on the spot. Right, That's that's the
Speaker 1: only two that's gonna go that way. Otherwise just a
Speaker 1: written um. Some niggas were skilled that making it sound
Speaker 1: like I came up with it on the spot. I
Speaker 1: was real good at that. I'm throwing something around the room.
Speaker 1: Then I go into a little bit of rig six
Speaker 1: back like that old ship like, I was real good
Speaker 1: at that. I don't think it matters as long as
Speaker 1: it's dope, you know what I'm saying. Because at certain times,
Speaker 1: it's like niggas would go to Rap City. Let's say
Speaker 1: you go see Tiger, Like, niggas got Cam there, they
Speaker 1: got Jim there, They're doing all these tapings. Fucking A
Speaker 1: Z is ready to do his ship like nigger Like,
Speaker 1: it's no point of going in the booth with ticket
Speaker 1: and trying to freestyle this ship. It's just going to
Speaker 1: eighteen million homes. Make it dope, you know what? I'm saying,
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna give a funk if you fumble. They're going back.
Speaker 1: Then this nigga fumbled in the booth, sound like you're
Speaker 1: trying to come up, like what's the point? So I
Speaker 1: feel like I feel like, you know what it is.
Speaker 1: It's like a dunk, but it's still two points two,
Speaker 1: no matter how good at no matter how good, it's
Speaker 1: still ready even get a cop right, come one. Because
Speaker 1: in this show, we celebrate motherfucker's longevity. They want to
Speaker 1: kill people out the game over it is here we
Speaker 1: celebrate all motherfucking legends. So I look, I like the
Speaker 1: white Great. It's the best white great ever. I like that.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna get ready for the next one. Ready.
Speaker 1: When I listened to you, When I listened to you,
Speaker 1: it's like every single line matters to right. You think
Speaker 1: that's a plus or a card to a certain extent,
Speaker 1: because if I'm just one thing, I could miss a
Speaker 1: whole truth, the whole concept of this of this. So
Speaker 1: what do you think about years later? When I mean,
Speaker 1: when I listened back to my old raps and ship,
Speaker 1: it's it's almost like I was super fucking confident, cocky,
Speaker 1: and but who wasn't. He was ahead of the around.
Speaker 1: I used to fucking demolish rap like that was my
Speaker 1: whole thing. And you know, um going back and forth,
Speaker 1: you know, from Virginia to New York, riding up in
Speaker 1: the turnpike, trying to get on like we knew that
Speaker 1: we couldn't just be average, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like we had to fucking be good, you know, just
Speaker 1: stand out like like yeah, So that's how I ended
Speaker 1: up things like yo, where you from, Nigga? Like and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm from Virginia And the answer was always
Speaker 1: from where I didn't know niggas like that in Va
Speaker 1: like Nanda. I'm like like nigga like trying me know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like so that was my whole emo
Speaker 1: like back then. But yeah, no, man, it's just it's
Speaker 1: just it just went that way because because like I said,
Speaker 1: it's just like like it's every single line right it started.
Speaker 1: It started out, It's like and we'll articulated, right because
Speaker 1: I wanted people to understand what I was saying, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And like the mumbleship came later
Speaker 1: like we you know, we we made sure niggas can
Speaker 1: understand what the we'll be saying, Like for the most part,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, that's what it was,
Speaker 1: so you like mumble rap for you are listen, man,
Speaker 1: I feel like I always like the music gonna do
Speaker 1: what the youth is doing. But wait, I second hold
Speaker 1: up and said, you're gonna tell me that there's an
Speaker 1: artist out there saying I do mumble rap. Yeah, come on, man,
Speaker 1: what Acsho says I'm mumble wrap is ef? The girls
Speaker 1: clamming up like that, they say, I mean, that's one
Speaker 1: thing to call it mumble rap, but they're going out
Speaker 1: there saying that's my ship, I'm a mumble rapper. Like
Speaker 1: how bad happening? The backpack term didn't like it. That's different, man,
Speaker 1: that's a little distance because what is what it is
Speaker 1: is that for them, it's about the feeling. For us,
Speaker 1: it's about it was about the content. They just they
Speaker 1: just cared about what feel good the music gonna do
Speaker 1: what the kid's gonna do. Bro, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: that's just what it is. Like I like that. I like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what they say. They don't know what
Speaker 1: I got. I'm gonna sept the new generation. The one
Speaker 1: thing that I hated bout the new generation, which blows
Speaker 1: me over, blows me over. Right, I accept him, but
Speaker 1: I do hate this part of right. They'll sit there
Speaker 1: and make a record like uh, Michael Jordan's, They'll make
Speaker 1: a twenty three right, they'll make up Mike Tyson. I
Speaker 1: think you wan't around when Mike Tyson was people are
Speaker 1: you went around what Jordan was playing? And why not
Speaker 1: study your own craft? Why not go out there and
Speaker 1: no know who Mellie mell is to know who Grandmaster
Speaker 1: cast is? No cou hurk is. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I maybe I went too far because you know who
Speaker 1: are honorious? I teach you not. I went to Sunday
Speaker 1: service one time and I see Cremo just walk right bobs.
Speaker 1: We looked at Krebo. We looked it up and think,
Speaker 1: ain't make our contact, but numbers it was me j
Speaker 1: the kiss and motherfucking fat jokes. I looked at it
Speaker 1: and I said, all right, he he necktizes. Then't need you.
Speaker 1: So I ain't taking personally because what I'm trying to
Speaker 1: say is I could easily like grab because easily said, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know who it is, and I would have
Speaker 1: had to respect that. I would have been I would
Speaker 1: have been disappointed. But you don't have to respect I
Speaker 1: don't have to respect that because I remember certain people
Speaker 1: that I didn't know when hip hopa came before me,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to study them. Right, but this, so,
Speaker 1: what do you feel like in that situation? It was
Speaker 1: but real. The culture taught us to dig in the crazy,
Speaker 1: to respect el even though we weren't from that. We
Speaker 1: weren't from the mill Melo, grand Master flags, but we
Speaker 1: knew those were the architects of pioneers. And even though
Speaker 1: we didn't listen to them every day, we respected where
Speaker 1: they're going from. We didn't continue that we're saying like
Speaker 1: our generation because I put it in the connotation of
Speaker 1: like a car. Like so, say I had a I
Speaker 1: got a car headed in nineties and it was mine,
Speaker 1: me and you was working in the car. We was
Speaker 1: banging a lot of mob deep, a lot of tribe professors.
Speaker 1: Ship was hard like that. I gave it, y'all. I mean, y'all,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't saying that. So I gave the car with
Speaker 1: my son, right, it's his car. Now he'll give a
Speaker 1: funk about the car and make a dog and the
Speaker 1: ship out of the car. But it's his car. Now,
Speaker 1: I see him pulling the driveway. I'm looking at it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, nigga, like your back tiger, Yo, you
Speaker 1: got slow leak like nigga me cranking up. I'm like, yo, yo,
Speaker 1: corporator sound like. But he's not taking care of the car.
Speaker 1: But it's his car, so we gotta just set back
Speaker 1: and is heavy. That's I'm gonna tell you why. Because
Speaker 1: it's a different time. We're all still in it were
Speaker 1: it's the first this is there, This mom is graduated
Speaker 1: to your grandparents. If you let yourself borrow the cars,
Speaker 1: that's what we all are with old borrowers right, nothing
Speaker 1: that this ship is really are. So we have a
Speaker 1: still choice I borrow, but we're giving him the car.
Speaker 1: I agree with you because I'm gonna tell I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell him if he borned, I'm gonna say, yo, you've
Speaker 1: better take care. That ship is gonna die on you.
Speaker 1: And then when the ship died on him, I just
Speaker 1: got to go. I told you, nigger, like he sucked
Speaker 1: the car. Or you get them all you change yes
Speaker 1: and put every they say this is on Sundays Nigga's
Speaker 1: My Ship hip hop late late eighties, No, not really
Speaker 1: late eighties, early nineties. So eighty nine I think the
Speaker 1: three I think we come up with the like that's
Speaker 1: that was listening. Bro. We had some funk ups back then,
Speaker 1: but it was it was It was beautiful, man, like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like niggas was getting it
Speaker 1: eighty nine and ninety three. Everything was fucking bumping. Everything
Speaker 1: sounded good. Everybody was making quality ship. Niggas was making
Speaker 1: other niggas get back. People were still sampling with it.
Speaker 1: Sound amazing, like niggas was hearing other niggas and then't like, no, no,
Speaker 1: I gotta go get my ship right, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. We didn't trying to sound like that was
Speaker 1: the thing. You couldn't sound like any nigger. I could
Speaker 1: go to a show a fucking ninety and it'll be
Speaker 1: too short. KRS one, Digital Underground, E P. M D.
Speaker 1: Like all these niggas on the same bill like now,
Speaker 1: you could never do no ship like that. You couldn't
Speaker 1: have fucking me Gooes on the same bill with J Cole.
Speaker 1: The ship wouldn't make sense. I don't see that ain't gonna.
Speaker 1: I would, but the kids wouldn't probably, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like, so it's a different area. I hate
Speaker 1: the way they can't mesh now because because back then,
Speaker 1: like niggas in that area, like you, you was just
Speaker 1: a nice nigga for then. I kind of like what
Speaker 1: Nas is doing with the kids disease. He kind of
Speaker 1: like put the hit boy. Yeah no no, not like
Speaker 1: I said, like that nigga can do no wrong, bro,
Speaker 1: Like he's Nas can't do no wrong, Like he's a
Speaker 1: fucking god in his rap ship. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Love him, Love him? So how did um because you
Speaker 1: were signed the timber at my point where he already
Speaker 1: said that, yes, how did you guys hook up? Or
Speaker 1: how did that interally? Because you know it wasn't just
Speaker 1: a Virginia thing or was Magoo fucking I'm where the
Speaker 1: about to say, yo yo, not the nigga. And like
Speaker 1: he managed arts then do real estate? I think he
Speaker 1: man he was managing artists who good like clapping up.
Speaker 1: So what happened? Shots? It's ninety seven, it's the no
Speaker 1: way out to Virginia. In Virginia, they missy Tim and
Speaker 1: Magoo come down to to where I'm from the city
Speaker 1: I'm from to come to the show. Sucking Puff is
Speaker 1: killing this. It's no way out. Biggie has passed and
Speaker 1: the fucking Puff is mashing. I'm backstage sucking d Dot
Speaker 1: the locks May. We're shooting dice and Ship and I
Speaker 1: see Magoo in the hallway and he's like, yo, nigga,
Speaker 1: what you're doing? And I'm like, I said, I can't
Speaker 1: see pump Daddy Like Nigga, He's like, yo, who are
Speaker 1: you winning them? When your new ship coming out? I said, Yo, No,
Speaker 1: like I ain't on Big Beat no more, like that's
Speaker 1: just Junior Mafi out. Nigga like I'm I'm I'm chilling.
Speaker 1: I'm a free agent. Said you ain't no deal. I said, nah,
Speaker 1: he's nick you got me him. I'm like, okay, So
Speaker 1: Nigga introduces me to him. He introduced me to him.
Speaker 1: I see Missy, I seek him and Magoo is like
Speaker 1: pressing him, like, no, Nigga, this is the nigga. He
Speaker 1: gotta be with us Like this, Nigga don't got no deal.
Speaker 1: That's blast forem me. He needed to be with us.
Speaker 1: So Tim like I cool, come to the studio of
Speaker 1: the Marrow, and I drive Virginia Beach, meets him. We
Speaker 1: do like seven songs like in one day, and from
Speaker 1: then on it was I was with him. And that's
Speaker 1: how I ended up hyping man and for Missy. And
Speaker 1: that's when I started watching this song writing process because
Speaker 1: Missy don't even have a deal and the fucking Lambeau
Speaker 1: was purple. You know what I'm saying that the Junes
Speaker 1: is truck and I'm sitting there like, what am I
Speaker 1: doing wrong? Before you start goes right around the time
Speaker 1: because said miss Missy was doing Mariah Carries in the studio,
Speaker 1: Jannet Jackson coming down here like Steve lo seven oh
Speaker 1: two or Leah Ship and I'm just like and she
Speaker 1: don't even want to deal. She like nine they I
Speaker 1: don't want to where to deal and fucking Missy is
Speaker 1: is killing them. And she was like, yeah, I gotta
Speaker 1: do the show because she hated doing shows. She was
Speaker 1: Mona Mona was her manager, and she hated doing shows
Speaker 1: because she was a studio rat. So She's like, yo, skills,
Speaker 1: have called me do this show because she knew I
Speaker 1: can remember all of the words. So Missy hop on
Speaker 1: stage and The thing was when she looked to me.
Speaker 1: That was my cue to finish the rhyme because I
Speaker 1: don't remember this ship like so she she'll Missy be
Speaker 1: putting it down. I'm not how that's around. I told
Speaker 1: your mother's yall stop me now, and then I'm listening,
Speaker 1: and she like, that's what I was there for. I
Speaker 1: Missy for a while, just so. But I learned like
Speaker 1: Missy fucking amazing with that ship, bro she was turned up.
Speaker 1: Turn up Solu. Yeah, not, Missy was amazing. That's what
Speaker 1: you gotta get on missing. We've been trying to get
Speaker 1: missing for never. Then we have a round we have
Speaker 1: with You're gonna get malice. You gotta do this, gonna
Speaker 1: be evil gool. You know we're gonna solve this whole
Speaker 1: Virginia thing. Man Cross Virginia. Thank you, thank you. Broke.
Speaker 1: I'm come on, I'm from a magical place. And let's
Speaker 1: just be clear in my personal career, like Virginia changed
Speaker 1: my life. You're around, he meant, And let's be clear,
Speaker 1: I was the hot dude at the time when I
Speaker 1: met met me and was like, yo, listen, you listen
Speaker 1: to me. We're gonna go number one. He acts like
Speaker 1: he was. He's knocked on. He has a little humble
Speaker 1: now when he was cocky back, I remember like he
Speaker 1: was like Mone was like, yo, you're not just closing
Speaker 1: your album without me on it. And I was like, yes,
Speaker 1: you know what, I believe this little guy like he
Speaker 1: had a trump Man tight you know, I'm saying his clothes,
Speaker 1: he came in the game with type clothes like he was.
Speaker 1: He was always different. And what's the craziest when you
Speaker 1: look at it for me, for me to be here,
Speaker 1: like your life was changed by the nigga from Virginia,
Speaker 1: My life was changed by nigga from Queen. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, let me go look great for the
Speaker 1: cute said that's so crazy, Like, oh you have like
Speaker 1: you have a really rich hip hop story. And so
Speaker 1: I was around, I'm moving around. How did did you
Speaker 1: come up with the wrapp up? Um? I was, I
Speaker 1: was in uh, I was in Baltimore and my family's
Speaker 1: crib and I did a mix tape best of It.
Speaker 1: I was doing mixtapes because Tim was popping at the time.
Speaker 1: For I was popped. I did the best of Neptunees mixtape.
Speaker 1: Right I'm wrapping over your ship. I'm wrapping over Grind
Speaker 1: and I'm wrapping over Model lover all the hard ship
Speaker 1: that I couldn't get. I didn't beat over, I didn't
Speaker 1: join over Roscope, be cold change ship. And my man says, yo,
Speaker 1: my man just time. He said, Yo, you should wrap
Speaker 1: over that comm and come close ship. And I was like, nigga,
Speaker 1: they don't even know forever that ain't hard, Like like
Speaker 1: I want the harsh. I want what happened to that boy? Like, no, nigger,
Speaker 1: you should do that. And I'm sitting there and I'm
Speaker 1: watching TV and it was just, uh, it was two
Speaker 1: thousand or two. It was this thing was talking about
Speaker 1: the year end whatever whatever. So I go, all right, son,
Speaker 1: I'll wrap about everything that's about to happen at the
Speaker 1: end of the year. And if a nigger get to
Speaker 1: the end of the mixtape, he'll get a little surprised
Speaker 1: or whatever. And I put the ship at the end.
Speaker 1: So I put the ship at the end. This was
Speaker 1: right when the Internet was popping, and my man put
Speaker 1: it on his website. He called me the next day
Speaker 1: he said, Yo, man, I gotta I think I like
Speaker 1: to get more bandwidth. I was like band with he said,
Speaker 1: you're like Motherucker's Downtack mixtape. And then radio starts playing
Speaker 1: this Ship and they're playing to wrap up and I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: nigga play the grinding free style and your body that
Speaker 1: ship like like they're not playing none of that. They're
Speaker 1: playing over the conna come close, and then the ship
Speaker 1: starts burning that radio and then then it comes back
Speaker 1: around to two thousand three. Nikka said, Yo, you're gonna
Speaker 1: do another wrap up next year. I'm like, what I
Speaker 1: call that ship the old two freestyle and he's like, no,
Speaker 1: you gotta do one more like for this ship. That
Speaker 1: ship was hot, and I'm like, so I did another
Speaker 1: one and then the ship just started turning into something else.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying like, that's the one song niggas won't
Speaker 1: let me not do. You still enjoy doing them move
Speaker 1: I do, but it's definitely just feels like an obligation.
Speaker 1: It definitely feels like you know what I'm saying. It
Speaker 1: definitely feels like a fucking like niggas want. But but
Speaker 1: to think about it, um to have something, well, to
Speaker 1: have something that's your own that people only want from
Speaker 1: you at this day and age in our career is
Speaker 1: super fucking we we we. That's like Nika is begging
Speaker 1: about that ship like Nigga. They still want that ship
Speaker 1: every Eastern. My fans want me to drop a Nor Easter.
Speaker 1: Gotta give it. I case, So now I gotta let's
Speaker 1: take a shot. Let's take a shot. Let's take a shot,
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna take a shot. Solo, solo, let's
Speaker 1: get it. So you you, you do this rap up,
Speaker 1: You make the wrapper up. Everyone knows the year end
Speaker 1: we skills are gonna come through. You're gonna wrap up
Speaker 1: the year, gonna make us laugh. Anybody come out with
Speaker 1: a couple of people too. You come out of people
Speaker 1: if you wore purple, Rick liten the wrapper right, and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you hear a different wrapper. M hmm,
Speaker 1: what happened? Oh the New York Wrapper. Listen, this is
Speaker 1: the New York wrap York. No, No, this is New
Speaker 1: York rapper. I don't know what ship ship I know,
Speaker 1: I do, that's his real name. But oh we're talking
Speaker 1: about the line ship. So what happened the first year
Speaker 1: he dropped it? Where you offended the first year? Or
Speaker 1: how did this? How did this understanding? Like I've been
Speaker 1: doing this nineteen years. It's yes, it's fucking it's a
Speaker 1: it's a it's a Malaysian wrap up, it's a Hong
Speaker 1: Kong wrap up, it's a UK wrap up. It's Tina
Speaker 1: fade to the Dirty Rock wrap up. I've written wrap
Speaker 1: ups for the Wire, SPS, sports, Senda like all this ship.
Speaker 1: So when the nigga did it, I'm used to the
Speaker 1: vine was popping YouTube, nigga's doing the ship all over,
Speaker 1: But most niggas would be like, yo, this is the song,
Speaker 1: so wrap up shop. My man man skills knew it
Speaker 1: was bite like, but it was the show love for
Speaker 1: Lenny because I'm I'm petty for Lenny. It was he
Speaker 1: did it and it was like fucking ship. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: so let me let me give your analyogy. I've been
Speaker 1: in the game longtimes. What's called the negative time? A
Speaker 1: person hold on because you know we're in a negative
Speaker 1: moment of drinks. What does that mean? We're in the
Speaker 1: negative moment to drinks? Your car, the drim h who
Speaker 1: you're at? If we all go on drink tests right
Speaker 1: now with bad skills, Okay, don't don't hurt nobody. We're
Speaker 1: gonna hit your super wee finished. I got you my brother,
Speaker 1: all right, my bad con so because I saw what
Speaker 1: you said. UM want y'all do it together? What's this?
Speaker 1: I've been in the game a long time, twenty years.
Speaker 1: I know a lot of niggas. I started a podcast,
Speaker 1: hipop Infests ten years ago. Right, let's say, I said, Yo,
Speaker 1: I called Dr Dre like y'all want you to be
Speaker 1: on my podcast. He's like, nigga, let's do it. I
Speaker 1: call I call Andre three thousand, Yo, nigga, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get Andre three thousand and fucking Dr Dre on my
Speaker 1: fucking podcast. We're holding the ship ship crazy. Next week,
Speaker 1: I put the ship on YouTube. Ships stupid. It's called
Speaker 1: Linked Champs, y'all. Nick is cool with that, exactly exactly,
Speaker 1: like it's parable parable together. It's like that's how Jesus talk. Like,
Speaker 1: let's keep it as being. I can't call my ship
Speaker 1: what y'all call y'all ship? This this drink Champs. I
Speaker 1: can't start Linked Champs next week and fucking I start you.
Speaker 1: You go on YouTube and you see me sitting at
Speaker 1: the table with a bunch of licking and I go, Yo,
Speaker 1: what a dude, what it is that makes something that link.
Speaker 1: Chaps got a lot of copies out there, didn't you
Speaker 1: have a lot of I'm saying you wouldn't expect it
Speaker 1: from me. You're like, come on, it's not like a
Speaker 1: beer up right. So what I'm saying is what I'm
Speaker 1: saying is and what I'm saying is it's it's almost
Speaker 1: like that's the New York wrap up like it is
Speaker 1: what it is. I don't I'm petty. It is what
Speaker 1: it is like. But he was the first nigger to
Speaker 1: be like, fuck me on my ship. I can't how
Speaker 1: did that? I can't rap over fucking allowed me to
Speaker 1: reintroduce myself. You like, but how did this start? Because
Speaker 1: of lack of a better turn? For? What we don't know? Was?
Speaker 1: I like, it was all up at the first and
Speaker 1: I heard you and Clark Kid. I heard Kid made
Speaker 1: a call to you or made a call to him,
Speaker 1: and you guys got on the phone. At one point,
Speaker 1: me and him never talked on the phone. So Kid
Speaker 1: called me O G. I'm like, what's up? O G?
Speaker 1: He like, yo, listen, you know you know you know
Speaker 1: Lenny my young right? But I said yeah cool? He
Speaker 1: said yeah right, So I know he did what he do.
Speaker 1: He did what he does. He ship funny, you know
Speaker 1: you're some right rock ship just a the third Like
Speaker 1: I was thinking, if y'all niggas did this together. I said,
Speaker 1: Club fund is wrong with you, nigga? He was like,
Speaker 1: what you mean? I said, club wou would you call
Speaker 1: Hove and say one savage you want to do twenty
Speaker 1: two tools but you like it? Don't make sense. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't take a picture with that, nigga. So I fucking i'm, i'm, I'm,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not working with it, but I'm not saying that.
Speaker 1: And every year it's fun man skills, man skills, So
Speaker 1: I gotta disagree with that. I didn't hear nigga then,
Speaker 1: but I think there was an actual interview where you
Speaker 1: was like, correct me if I'm wrong where Murder was
Speaker 1: saying he wasn't really claiming it, and then you did
Speaker 1: an interview and he was like, yeah, I didn't really
Speaker 1: like it somewhat to what you're saying then, and then
Speaker 1: that's what he said. He say, I said, I said
Speaker 1: in one song maybe seventeen, I said a lot into
Speaker 1: his doing wrap ups. She ain't she ain't helping y'all
Speaker 1: niggas whatever he felt like. I took a shot right
Speaker 1: this ten, I get a call, I get a job
Speaker 1: at a university, nig I'm teaching at the college. Spot.
Speaker 1: Keep me a lot of jobs and then we'll get
Speaker 1: me a teach you know college, right, I have a class.
Speaker 1: I'm a professor. At this point, I'm like, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do the wrap up this year. I'm gonna knock it
Speaker 1: down and said, y'all ain't gonna say nothing about Lenny
Speaker 1: unless he says something about me. Soon come out, you lisam.
Speaker 1: Wrap up the nigga man Skills ship Yo, blah blah,
Speaker 1: starts Rapper. So I go, I'm gonna check this nigga
Speaker 1: right now, totally. I fucking I put up the ship
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna tell you what happened. I'm writing the wrapper.
Speaker 1: I'm in the studio writing the wrapper. Got my notes
Speaker 1: right in the wrapper. I get a d M from
Speaker 1: Linny Grant that says, I ain't mean to take your ship,
Speaker 1: but you the PG version. I'm raided on nigga plus
Speaker 1: you whack anyway. I said, I'm going to lyrically kick
Speaker 1: this nigga in the pussy. Yes, let me tell you
Speaker 1: let me tell how can we see the nigga said, Yo,
Speaker 1: I ain't even take your ship. You the PG version,
Speaker 1: I'm the art version plus you fell off anyway, my
Speaker 1: g I said, I'm gonna check this nigga. Naw I take.
Speaker 1: I take the d M and make the d I
Speaker 1: put out a song called murder Gram. Demolished this nigga,
Speaker 1: demolished them over murder Gram. Boom boom boom had that
Speaker 1: ship fucking uh. I put the song out and everybody
Speaker 1: go to the beef because the wrap ups is done.
Speaker 1: Nigger just don't care about the brown. They're like, oh shit,
Speaker 1: fucking mad skins and this nigga going there and they've
Speaker 1: been they've been tossing it back and forth for years,
Speaker 1: this nigga. I bodied this nigga over murder Gram and
Speaker 1: made the d M the cover art for the single
Speaker 1: because I didn't want niggas about why are you this
Speaker 1: in the naw are you posted this? It's just called
Speaker 1: It's just called it's called murder Gram. I started the ship.
Speaker 1: I told the whole story. Um U. I said, motherfucker's
Speaker 1: want to kill me, but they got the heart. Um
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I'm gonna pick the mic back up
Speaker 1: for this walk in the park. And I don't want
Speaker 1: credit for this. This ain't nothing. I'm just answering the
Speaker 1: nigga that kept pressing my buttons. Uncle murder, what's all
Speaker 1: the fuss about? And they can keep my fucking name.
Speaker 1: Mit your brown ass mouth, Clark kid, your man about
Speaker 1: the hole? This ell so roase some weed. I got
Speaker 1: a story to tell, and I tell the whole ship.
Speaker 1: Clark hit me, say yo, y'all should link up. This
Speaker 1: is then the third body. Then I'm waiting you know how?
Speaker 1: You know how? This wraps nigga took like two weeks
Speaker 1: and it wasn't a worthy response. And that's when I realized,
Speaker 1: I'm not beefing with a neiggative kid about rap. I'm
Speaker 1: beefing with a neiggative kid. By the attention were differently.
Speaker 1: I'm different. I'm from a different class. So for me,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I saw you had him here, probably was
Speaker 1: a slow day. I'm patty. He's definitely not no, no respectful.
Speaker 1: I'm respectfully patty. You're going in respectfully. But I got
Speaker 1: love for like I got love for him, but because
Speaker 1: and I jumped out the window to do some this
Speaker 1: ship and I was like, he don't want to do that.
Speaker 1: He just he just wants people to pay attention to
Speaker 1: what he thought. And I get it that ship works
Speaker 1: sometimes ship work for fifty and oh too one like,
Speaker 1: so I did it. It was what it was. But Nigga,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm teaching the class so on World Star
Speaker 1: at the same time at the faculty meeting, like this
Speaker 1: ship with and I'm trying to push the ships to
Speaker 1: the left. I'm trying to put the ships to the left.
Speaker 1: And they were like, yo, um you know, uh, I
Speaker 1: know you this song came out. I never forget somebody
Speaker 1: know to put the professor I work and he was like.
Speaker 1: The dean was like, to my that fucking that that
Speaker 1: that hip hop that dis track. Nigga, I'm at the
Speaker 1: crib right when my daughter, my daughter works at the
Speaker 1: day kids, she's like twenty five years old. She comes
Speaker 1: into the house. She's like, hey, I said, Hey, what's up.
Speaker 1: She said, um, so one of my students parents came
Speaker 1: in and apparently you made a this song. I was like,
Speaker 1: I said, I ain't know this song. She was like,
Speaker 1: you know, they come in and they go, yo, your
Speaker 1: dad fucking body that was going up. Man. My daughter goes, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's the wrap up. He does it every year, he said.
Speaker 1: Nigga said, no, no, no, as as he's putting his
Speaker 1: coat on his chi No, no, no, I know about
Speaker 1: the rapperp She like, you got a dish record, Nigga.
Speaker 1: So I'm sitting there, I said, I said, yo, Nigga
Speaker 1: kept saying my name like Charris. She's like, let me hear.
Speaker 1: I like, no, no, no, She's like, dad, let me hear.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, fun, I have to play my daughter.
Speaker 1: I hit the button that ship more murder gram boom boom,
Speaker 1: hardass beat, and she listened to it, and I'm just
Speaker 1: sitting there like and I'm sucking going. I'm like, Lenny Grant,
Speaker 1: the nigga your name signed to should be on the
Speaker 1: side of a funeral home. They get like, Nigga, you
Speaker 1: signed the g unit ten years too late. I'm going
Speaker 1: to hands and my daughter's listening to it, and I'm
Speaker 1: just sitting there like fucking embarrassed. And she stops and
Speaker 1: she she goes, so, don't you have a class tomorrow?
Speaker 1: I said yeah. She said, Dad, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: I said, you know, what you gotta understand, Like it's
Speaker 1: not the second like niggas don't never disrespect facing back
Speaker 1: and forth like so when she said it, I'm sitting
Speaker 1: there and I'm like, damn, like I'm playing a this
Speaker 1: song for my daughter at late forties and ships weird,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, but but the whole,
Speaker 1: you know, the whole, I d like de bo like nigga.
Speaker 1: I'm from Virginia. They didn't ain't nobody never took nothing
Speaker 1: from me but l that period. So it's the New
Speaker 1: York wrap up. Well, this is shot to y'all working
Speaker 1: it out. I hope y'all working out. Let me see
Speaker 1: my child, and I'm warning for myself. Listen, man, you
Speaker 1: know we might work it out if y'all let me
Speaker 1: do link Champs, let's work out. Is that something that's
Speaker 1: a problem in hip hop? It's just like, like you know,
Speaker 1: I see I see the homie walk in my homie
Speaker 1: Snoop home me and I was such a fan of Snoop, right,
Speaker 1: but I never wanted to do nothing Snoop did because
Speaker 1: I felt like that was himp. That's something that's a
Speaker 1: problem in hip hop is that people actually see something
Speaker 1: they like and they imitate. It's a problem now because
Speaker 1: the gate keepers don't call it what it is. Like,
Speaker 1: you didn't take nothing, nigger, you bid it. Let's keep
Speaker 1: it a being. You ain't. I'm from Virginia and they ain't.
Speaker 1: Nobody never took nothing from me. You bid it. Like
Speaker 1: I can't fucking I can't. I'm out tomorrow and make
Speaker 1: an album called the World Report exactly like I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't go to Virginia and get some niggas and say, Yo,
Speaker 1: we're gonna start a new clip. They're like, what's the same.
Speaker 1: I'm like your niggas called dip set, like nigga nah, nigga.
Speaker 1: Like at some point somebody gotta said, I said, it
Speaker 1: ain't cool my nigga like and he nigga like he
Speaker 1: Lennly olden. I'm petty Linly old enough to know he
Speaker 1: like the old enough to know that I respect the
Speaker 1: ference my younger. But but he's actually playing into the game.
Speaker 1: I'm just being a definitely advocate keeping actually pay playing
Speaker 1: into the game. And the game is Brooklyn has always
Speaker 1: been on for Brooklyn keeps on taking Yeah, well, Brooklyn
Speaker 1: ain't taking ship from a nigga like me, I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's not. I'm just saying you can't. You can't just
Speaker 1: take something from me, like it's gonna come with something.
Speaker 1: When I checked them for I was expecting a response,
Speaker 1: and then when I didn't get a worthy response, I
Speaker 1: was like, damn, like I'm not even going at it
Speaker 1: with a nigga that's respectable, Like it's not fad, but
Speaker 1: they ain't kiss It's not you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I ain't twenty Brooklyn niggas
Speaker 1: in the song that I would rather battle than him,
Speaker 1: Like it was crazy. I was talking cash, I was wild.
Speaker 1: I was definitely wild. Do you regret that? Absolutely not?
Speaker 1: Why what? It's all in the game. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. This hip hop is what we do. It
Speaker 1: was fun this fall with the nigga for a minute
Speaker 1: or something, and then when I realized he really wants fall.
Speaker 1: He just wanted the attention. I was like, we're different.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not chasing attention. But is there a
Speaker 1: world world where all these wrap ups do exist, where
Speaker 1: everyone his cordil or so he said, where they're paying
Speaker 1: him homage, where they're paying respect for where it came from.
Speaker 1: That's where he Before two thousand and two, nobody was
Speaker 1: making a yearly recap of what happened to Coach Hippop,
Speaker 1: I invented that ship. And I'm not tripping like like
Speaker 1: I said, I'm not tripping. YouTube niggas doing all day
Speaker 1: half the castle wild and out made wrap ups. But
Speaker 1: they was always like trying to nigga mad skills like
Speaker 1: Andy kept it moving like we gotta call a biter bitter.
Speaker 1: But I gotta, I gotta, I gotta just be the
Speaker 1: devil's advocate. You know how many people for theself slide
Speaker 1: and they don't give me no respect. You know how
Speaker 1: many people there's actually games so slide and you know
Speaker 1: how slim Gotta have been in Let me just tell
Speaker 1: you how sl I'm gonta have been the My boy,
Speaker 1: they're easy. Said, I'm gonna go to the store to
Speaker 1: get a pepper Die sandwich. Do you want anything? And
Speaker 1: pepper Die sound like pepper Broni to me, so I
Speaker 1: said no. The homie came back in the studio with
Speaker 1: a turkey and cheese. I said, that's not pepper Wroni.
Speaker 1: He said, I said, pepper Die not pepper BRONI and
Speaker 1: I said, look, give me half and he said he
Speaker 1: was a slime mask. Nigga, just you a sandwich. And
Speaker 1: I took this ship and from that day on be
Speaker 1: calling each other slide. Simple is that this game is
Speaker 1: called slie. Yeah, they don't salute me. There's young thug.
Speaker 1: This thing's got his whole career. He has never said
Speaker 1: big up normal? Now what now? Mind you? This is
Speaker 1: This goes back. I got a good point, y'all. That
Speaker 1: was a good point, right. This goes back to what
Speaker 1: I said earlier. Niggas don't care about who first, but
Speaker 1: we do. You know what I'm saying. We the tight
Speaker 1: niggas like Yo, like Yo, who got you in the
Speaker 1: hip hop? I'm gonna tell you first niggas I listened
Speaker 1: to that got me starting the ship. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: disrespect him. I'm not gonna say nothing crazy about him.
Speaker 1: Like we gotta call a spade to spade at some
Speaker 1: point because otherwise niggas just started acting blues like. It's
Speaker 1: not trolling, my nigga. Let's call it what it is.
Speaker 1: You're lying for attention. If I knew something dumb for attention,
Speaker 1: that's called lying for attention. It's not called trolling, my nigga,
Speaker 1: but we fucking and better let me represent for the
Speaker 1: new generation to the new generation. Just didn't know where
Speaker 1: that came from, right, he knew, he knew I'm patty,
Speaker 1: but he ain't new like I can see. I got
Speaker 1: told you. If there's somebody twenty one like yo, I
Speaker 1: see niggas like yo, I'm the new nigga. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We called we broccoli. I'm like, nigga,
Speaker 1: that's nigga? What you thought? That's the moment they find
Speaker 1: out then you know, you pick it up appropertly efore
Speaker 1: to say, hey, look, little niggas, I had to show
Speaker 1: you up. He got a lot of nigga like one
Speaker 1: of the most illest, one of the nicest guys I've
Speaker 1: ever met, but we gotta call us Spain is Paine
Speaker 1: at some point one of the nicest guy we see.
Speaker 1: If the water isn't around, I'm so wait a minute,
Speaker 1: So we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna get No, you
Speaker 1: don't want to work it out. You're saying you don't
Speaker 1: want to work it out, not on a wrapp up?
Speaker 1: How about this? Is this is a crazy thing, right, dude,
Speaker 1: we passed away, right, do pass away off for my hood?
Speaker 1: So do for my hood to come home with jail?
Speaker 1: Says hey man, I want to dish you on the record.
Speaker 1: And I said, for what he said, because I think
Speaker 1: that's the way I can get on corny corny like
Speaker 1: we got called rufy. But so I told him, I said,
Speaker 1: because I knew he was just coming home from jails,
Speaker 1: just wrapping thinking, thinking's death broke all They all right, listen,
Speaker 1: I said, let's do it together on the stage. I
Speaker 1: want you to dis like that. I don't say it
Speaker 1: like that. It's different. I don't want you just me
Speaker 1: in my face and I wanna diss you with your face.
Speaker 1: But I'm also show you I'm a rapper, right, and
Speaker 1: I've never happened, right do you think that like it's
Speaker 1: something like that that can be happen where you guys,
Speaker 1: it's like a face off on the same track for
Speaker 1: the same in the same studio. Get body, man, get body.
Speaker 1: He's not here like he ain't a rapper like that.
Speaker 1: It's more like he like a comedian, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like that's how I look at him. I
Speaker 1: think I think I think I'm a murders though. I
Speaker 1: think of the murders though. That's cool, that's cool, that's
Speaker 1: your man is. I get it like I get it.
Speaker 1: I don't think you're dope. It's not no, no, not
Speaker 1: at all. But I'm just saying for me, it's like,
Speaker 1: it just don't feel like hip hop to me. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like to me, it does for
Speaker 1: like you just want to see some drama. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't even he want to sing to see how you like. Ultimately,
Speaker 1: because that's how I said, I think y'all should do
Speaker 1: the track together. I do it. I do feel like
Speaker 1: I think got like you were saying. First, Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: saying I think you should you to track together, like
Speaker 1: me saying I think I should be when every drink
Speaker 1: chance like maybe when he hears how you're saying it here,
Speaker 1: maybe it maybe and different. I wish the brother no
Speaker 1: ill will man like we did what we did like that.
Speaker 1: I thought something. It was fun. I thought, I know
Speaker 1: you called him like yo keep it going like yeah
Speaker 1: I did. I did the first time I did. I
Speaker 1: did say that I did. That's why I felt felt
Speaker 1: guilty because the first time I heard it, I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, cool, I can't think it was no valance
Speaker 1: towards you for the first one. I don't have that
Speaker 1: kind of time, bro, I don't have fifteen minutes and
Speaker 1: listen to a nigger rap. Maybe you do, yeah, a
Speaker 1: little bit. I'm pending just fact liked, Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: you might be. You know, I'm only that way when
Speaker 1: you poke me, like you gotta stand for three years,
Speaker 1: I'm going to the barbershop, my bar but like yo,
Speaker 1: like nigga, what's up with your man? Noo? And I'm like, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I'm chilling, you know what I'm saying that like nine nigga.
Speaker 1: Like if you would have told me in nineties six
Speaker 1: ninety seven, when I was going back and forth to
Speaker 1: New York trying to get on that a nigga from
Speaker 1: the Borough would take something from a nigga from Virginia
Speaker 1: to be relevant, I would have been like, nigga, what
Speaker 1: like nigga, y'all are the necka to us? We always
Speaker 1: felt like we had to prove our way, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I remember going to fucking to the
Speaker 1: to the sheet loops Farrell Mont's video right and Farrell
Speaker 1: Case slaves outside in the drama. I was the biggest
Speaker 1: ship in the world, and I'm like, yo, I'll walk
Speaker 1: up to case saying, I'm like, yo, man, you know
Speaker 1: I think it's graph pepoo some other niggas. I said, Yo, man,
Speaker 1: how I get on the drama our nigga said, I mean,
Speaker 1: ship man, you gotta be nice. Nigga, ain't look at
Speaker 1: like you gotta be nice. I'm like, Day's trying to
Speaker 1: sound nice to say you gotta be nice. So I
Speaker 1: go to Rockers like Nigga, I gotta get on the
Speaker 1: fucking drum out. I don't know how y'all making happens
Speaker 1: the street nigga, Howe mcduffin. He's like, no, Nigga, I
Speaker 1: make it happen. Yet, how we mcduffer you? So? How
Speaker 1: we for niggles it to with me Most and Feral
Speaker 1: and this new nigga that they gotta go up to
Speaker 1: the drama hole. And this was when Rockers was kind
Speaker 1: of nig was like the Ruggers might be the next
Speaker 1: fucking death jam. It's just kind of bubbling, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We go to the drama hole. I
Speaker 1: never forgot wrapped over in the club. I wrap over
Speaker 1: in the club body the ship and the Niggy case.
Speaker 1: Slay goes Yo. He's talking to Nigga Malacott and Nigga
Speaker 1: used to the boy where he's like your Malco like
Speaker 1: real talk that that might be the hottest freestyle Nigga
Speaker 1: ever said up it, And I'm just like yes, nigger like,
Speaker 1: I'm not no fucking coming, boy, I'm getting fucking busy.
Speaker 1: Like so we always had to go to New York
Speaker 1: to prove ourselves. You know what's the conversation I'm about
Speaker 1: to get into, which one? No, I don't are you
Speaker 1: one of the South guys? Come on, come on, like
Speaker 1: New York don't show love to the South. And I
Speaker 1: want you to be because we talked about this a lot,
Speaker 1: because I talked about the Miami perspective to visit right
Speaker 1: when y'all focused, and I'm putting y'all in the category
Speaker 1: of the South, like another shot, Virginia get another shot.
Speaker 1: So here's what I get a fit because me personally,
Speaker 1: I don't have the experience that a lot of the
Speaker 1: stop people Like I said I was going to Virginia.
Speaker 1: I was we need hen like this. What I'm trying
Speaker 1: to say to you. So, in my opinion, me and
Speaker 1: this guy because he he loves my goddamnit, this someone.
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is I feel like a lot
Speaker 1: to the South guys are wrong for paying attention to
Speaker 1: what was not shown to you guys as opposed to
Speaker 1: what the love was. You know what, I don't even
Speaker 1: meaning meeting A lot of times you guys sit around
Speaker 1: and you say, you know what, New York can't give love.
Speaker 1: This guy can't get love. But how about the holes?
Speaker 1: How about the Northeast? How about the people who was
Speaker 1: embracing the South? Who was going back? But I tell
Speaker 1: the fact hold holder. But I said this a bunch
Speaker 1: of times on drink. I said it was the industry
Speaker 1: was the biggest problem, working to the industry. You know,
Speaker 1: y'all kept it to yourself, not you, maybe not fact,
Speaker 1: not the individual artist. That's what I needed to hear it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's y'all understand y'all are the mecca. So nigger. I
Speaker 1: remember going to the new music seminars of rock Steady
Speaker 1: in the Park just trying to get respect from y'all
Speaker 1: because New York was the mecca. So with fucking stretching
Speaker 1: Barbado told me I was dope and guy was dope
Speaker 1: with mother fucking Q Tip told me I was dope.
Speaker 1: I was dope, you know what I'm saying. Like, so
Speaker 1: it's like when the ships which what about the ship switch.
Speaker 1: It was like we all we gave so much love
Speaker 1: to y'all. A lot of us felt like fucking like
Speaker 1: fucking out cares on the sauce stage like damn like
Speaker 1: swoop like dah, y'all love us. We all understood that,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, We all felt we
Speaker 1: did that, but understand what I mean. It was all
Speaker 1: the same thing different but speaking person, we felt like that. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: we felt and it wasn't personal. You're thinking as individual
Speaker 1: artists or the artists, it's not personal. Come to Miami,
Speaker 1: so like two thousands moved like you've been coming out.
Speaker 1: You're doing a lot of work. South really shouldn't have
Speaker 1: that complaint because she everybody can't speak for us, bro,
Speaker 1: everybody from the East coast. Grandmother had a tie to
Speaker 1: the South. Yes, yeah, okay, I understand. So this is
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to tell. Even from the West Coast sects,
Speaker 1: we all kind of came from the South, slave weeks
Speaker 1: to the South and then So that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I feel like y'all always judged that off for young people,
Speaker 1: young people who didn't travel as much, like, this is
Speaker 1: no way I can go to Atlanta like I went
Speaker 1: to once twilve. What was that ship Atlanta in Atlanta,
Speaker 1: New York? If you would go to the strip club
Speaker 1: in New York, you are waiting stuff. And I was
Speaker 1: out there and they had like it three things you
Speaker 1: don't do in the strip club. You don't tip, you
Speaker 1: don't eat, and you don't ship. The first week in Miami,
Speaker 1: I broke all three of those rules. The first thing
Speaker 1: I like the same time, shout the reason out and
Speaker 1: tip every bitch in there. It was crazy. It was great.
Speaker 1: Like But that's what I've noticed see in New York.
Speaker 1: It wasn't recalling youabamas. We were saying that, you know,
Speaker 1: it was a different people. It was a different cousins
Speaker 1: because I gonna remember y'all, our cousins were all family, man,
Speaker 1: do you understand I'm saying. And when we got to
Speaker 1: the West coast, it was a little different too. But
Speaker 1: the South, honestly is all of our grandmothers have all.
Speaker 1: I think you're talking about different things. Man. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is, here's what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1: What I'm trying to say is people felt like East
Speaker 1: Coast wasn't giving it up to the South. It was
Speaker 1: always called n't want to get to nobody and the
Speaker 1: industry lived in New York. The radio show City Ship.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't see it. You wouldn't see it. Let me
Speaker 1: ask you a question. Remember I remember watching a podcast
Speaker 1: and you was like, yo, when I went to l A,
Speaker 1: I was, I was, I was looking around, I was,
Speaker 1: I was making sure she was good. Why was you
Speaker 1: doing that? Exactly exactly? So for us, like of course
Speaker 1: it's slow. Everything slow. We're not slow as Texas but
Speaker 1: not just chopped the screw music. But you come down South,
Speaker 1: ship gets slower. But for us, it was like we
Speaker 1: always showed your love, like y'all came down. They went
Speaker 1: to schools, went to the HBCUs. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like we got we got out. Was that hole? Was there?
Speaker 1: They getting money? Like I know that you're saying so,
Speaker 1: And it's like we adopted some of the ship. He
Speaker 1: adopted some of this ship from y'all. So it's like
Speaker 1: when when Tim's got popping, we threw on the tails
Speaker 1: when the bubble goose is like everything was about y'all.
Speaker 1: So it was like when it became about somebody else
Speaker 1: to see certain artists like now we're not that ship Cony,
Speaker 1: We're not working with them type niggas like damn like Nigga.
Speaker 1: We were just we're doing what hip hop fays. We're
Speaker 1: rapping about what we know from where we are, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like everybody ain't gonna be that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I think when when
Speaker 1: people like Tim and Pharrell got into the studio to
Speaker 1: make music, they knew what they couldn't make. We couldn't
Speaker 1: make no premier type sound bad hip hop. Y'all already
Speaker 1: did that. We couldn't make Baltimore Club. Baltimore Club was
Speaker 1: already popping, couldn't make Jersey House, she was already done,
Speaker 1: couldn't do Go Go, so she was already can't do
Speaker 1: can't do the screw the shop ship, can't do the
Speaker 1: chronic ship. So it's like, damn, nigga, I'm gonna sample
Speaker 1: this baby, you know what I'm say I'm gonna sample
Speaker 1: this last noise if it tim That was the illest
Speaker 1: because I've never seen a nigga sit down and beat
Speaker 1: box a fucking beat and then touch the fucking something
Speaker 1: and make it so the nigga would sit down and go,
Speaker 1: y'all wanted you to go, and the nigga will find
Speaker 1: the sound that went. And I'm sitting there like yo,
Speaker 1: this niggas fucking crag. He beat boxes all the ship.
Speaker 1: I work with timpular Please don't get your story. I
Speaker 1: work with timpularly. At one time he was like this
Speaker 1: nor just how I want your wife to God like
Speaker 1: Mario brothers. I looked at this nigg I said he
Speaker 1: gotta be hot, like that's how he did it. And
Speaker 1: then you see, I took two longer. I had a rock.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, ship, nigga liga around and fucking
Speaker 1: and till you gotta listen to them too, because they'll
Speaker 1: have you. They'll change your whole life. And niggas wasn't listening.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like now, I ain't doing
Speaker 1: that corny same way before him. Give you some babe.
Speaker 1: She's like, I'm not walking around these fake casts for once,
Speaker 1: bake over your check. I don't know what's probably be
Speaker 1: Like I was, y'all guinea pick for two years. I
Speaker 1: was walking around. It's like, you ain't you getting money?
Speaker 1: You having a force once? You don't remember because they
Speaker 1: look just like people were laughing at me. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: those those two dudes man changed to face the music man.
Speaker 1: And it ain't too many people that could say that
Speaker 1: they did that. And for me, like to be from
Speaker 1: where we from, it's truly something in the water. Like
Speaker 1: it's not it's not just something to say, it's a
Speaker 1: special and unique they maybe they create their own unique sounds. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like I feel like Farrell was the closest thing. Him
Speaker 1: and Chad were the closest thing we ever had to
Speaker 1: happen to sound. You know what I'm saying. But that
Speaker 1: the person time came back around what was the name
Speaker 1: of his group naging him and he wouldn't know it
Speaker 1: was just him. He was a raptor's name was nagging
Speaker 1: the verb lord worked out for him. But that sounds
Speaker 1: like here's the thing. Next time I see him, Hawaiian
Speaker 1: shirt read in the Excess and he's telling the DJ
Speaker 1: played my record and they're like, yeah, like like my
Speaker 1: magnum Yo he's talking about or super Thugger is fucking
Speaker 1: tending the clubs down. He's telling the DJ like, Yo,
Speaker 1: that's my record, and DJ like, yeah, yeah, that's my
Speaker 1: that's my reckord like started, and then the video comes
Speaker 1: out and niggas just like, Yo, that's his record, red
Speaker 1: in excess fucking and I'm like, Yo, the nigga really
Speaker 1: doing that. I though it sounds so cliche that said
Speaker 1: right now, But for the moment I met that motherfucker,
Speaker 1: I knew he was was from earth. Fact, he was.
Speaker 1: He was different, bro, he was It was so easy
Speaker 1: to say that now, like but I wish I was lying,
Speaker 1: but I'm just not. Just looked at him. I wish
Speaker 1: we had the Purple rain for this right now. That's
Speaker 1: my that's my man man, that's my brother. Yeah man um.
Speaker 1: And it's like it feels like in Virginia you all
Speaker 1: have to be tied to each other. It's there artists
Speaker 1: that you're not tied to in Virginia. No, they can't
Speaker 1: be right. Who's this new artist you guy? I think
Speaker 1: we're signed to push your teeth? Oh card I think
Speaker 1: his name is Carden. He signed on pushing teas Labor. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Petersburg Young Boy Virginia. Yeah, yeah, yeah, not he's
Speaker 1: from with trade songs from Oh. I was saying, you
Speaker 1: gotta think Virginia's Angela, the girls from Chris de Angelo
Speaker 1: me trade songs, Chris Brown for Reno Chris Brown. Chris
Speaker 1: Brown is from Tappahanned Virginia, fucking clips, push you Analyst,
Speaker 1: Missy Macgoo. Like, bro, what was the crew were into?
Speaker 1: Wasn't super free but friends Lonnie b Day so he
Speaker 1: was a dope rapping back. Yeah, he battled up Jojoe
Speaker 1: Pellegrino on the boat the Dirty White Boy. Yeah, man, no,
Speaker 1: man like um so yeah, No, Virginia is a special place, bro,
Speaker 1: something really in the ward. It's listen, it's not just
Speaker 1: something we say. It's not just Molly, It's not just
Speaker 1: probably not Molly. How did you break It's not He's like,
Speaker 1: it's not mon Yeah, man, God damn holy bo. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know I got does man, you know, let's get
Speaker 1: to those man, you know, you know the easy help
Speaker 1: people do for what album? Because the first was the album? Yeah,
Speaker 1: the whole first album, the first I'm a zyl because
Speaker 1: he did a song for the artifacts, and that was
Speaker 1: I didn't know that he did down to My Soul
Speaker 1: rebix the fact the first niggas ever let me on
Speaker 1: a song, Yeah, all the facts. I'll tame one else
Speaker 1: since then. That was a crazy Actually, I do remember
Speaker 1: that Dona My Soul, the first album from with Yes
Speaker 1: I came out on the same day as the Food
Speaker 1: Jis and All Eyes on Me worst day of in
Speaker 1: South I didn't I don't know what. I don't know where.
Speaker 1: This was a great niggas from Virginia. The album that
Speaker 1: I didn't take. It didn't happen to me. You didn't
Speaker 1: get gold. Now I'm not gold, but back there was
Speaker 1: but little to leave with this leave with the score
Speaker 1: and all I mean to me, I mean that's a
Speaker 1: little I mean that's different everyone, dude that All Eyes
Speaker 1: on Me is that the album after he came Double Yes,
Speaker 1: that's double out kill him did not pick a good day.
Speaker 1: Let's just throw that out there. Okay, okay, you have
Speaker 1: you had large professor producer on that large professor j
Speaker 1: period Clark Kent, not psycho Le's um. And I was
Speaker 1: the first person that ever did this song with j J. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: because that was guy and that's early. Didn't understand. I'm
Speaker 1: with you, Tip, I'm making the album and I'm like,
Speaker 1: niggad you on my album. He's like, yeah, no, son
Speaker 1: got this nigga you gotta I said, Noah, nigga you
Speaker 1: on the album. He comes to Battery Studio Street went
Speaker 1: a little small dude with a fucking Detroit had on
Speaker 1: and he's talking about him the same way he talked
Speaker 1: about me to Pasta, Neuse and Mace. And he's talking
Speaker 1: to you. He's he's going, your son, this, where's yo.
Speaker 1: He's so ill and I'm like even, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I need to cute Tip beat though He's like, no, no,
Speaker 1: I got at you. But listen to this nigger. He
Speaker 1: hits the beat, he put the I still have the tape.
Speaker 1: He hit the cassette, put the consette, places the cassette.
Speaker 1: As soon as I hit the cassette. But no, and
Speaker 1: and and it's running. I'm like, you play the next one,
Speaker 1: my dumbass. I'm like, play the next one. Next beat
Speaker 1: is the far side. Gotta kick something to me something
Speaker 1: I passed on running. You gotta kick something to me
Speaker 1: something Drop passed on that. And then he gets to
Speaker 1: the song that I take and I never forget. I
Speaker 1: paid him three three bands a song. We did three songs.
Speaker 1: I can't find the third one. If I find it, God, God,
Speaker 1: please let me find that third song. Uh. And I
Speaker 1: paid me here, I paid nags and I remember he
Speaker 1: was in the studio and battery mixing, and he was like, um,
Speaker 1: he said, yo, I never I'll never forget this. And
Speaker 1: I don't care if I get as big as Dr Dre.
Speaker 1: You always be able to give me for three bands
Speaker 1: a song. I don't care how big I get. And
Speaker 1: we never got a chance to do another because he
Speaker 1: passed away. Because he passed and at the home and
Speaker 1: you thought you were missing out on a qute tip beat,
Speaker 1: but q tip hopped on the song with large Professor
Speaker 1: called extra abstract skills, right, my man, I spent more
Speaker 1: money on large professor songs. When you look at the budget,
Speaker 1: because I had an ad it I was gonna R
Speaker 1: and B label and I had to change the faces budget.
Speaker 1: My budget like three fifty or something. Ship. When you
Speaker 1: look at how much you spend a large professor and
Speaker 1: you need studios fucking this saying large professor will come,
Speaker 1: you need to get him on the podcast to Lars,
Speaker 1: professor will come and just listen to records in the
Speaker 1: studio like my nigga like we this is a twelve
Speaker 1: hour block our eight and he like putting the record
Speaker 1: and I'm sitting there looking at my A n R
Speaker 1: reeflight like what we you know what we do? That's
Speaker 1: my and we And you know, I spent so much
Speaker 1: money with large professors just listening to the songs. But
Speaker 1: the knowledge that she just based on what he's said
Speaker 1: waiting long. And Clark Kid was on the album because
Speaker 1: because because he did it them a so of course
Speaker 1: I gotta bring my old chea and make sure he
Speaker 1: could taken care of because he helped me. Even though
Speaker 1: I was talking about hold in his house, Um he was.
Speaker 1: He was on the album. Yeah, the album was on
Speaker 1: the album when it came out, even even on the
Speaker 1: same day that not you know, not the Fuji's and
Speaker 1: fucking Tupac came out. It was in Virginia. It was
Speaker 1: a big thing because he never saw its classic first
Speaker 1: albums from where right, that's what you all eyes on
Speaker 1: me and food. But it was probus called I Ain't
Speaker 1: Mad No More right, That's when I changed it from
Speaker 1: Mad skills and skills, and that's what that was. Rockers
Speaker 1: fucked that whole ship up. I think I ended up
Speaker 1: puttinession the singles came on. The singles came because folded,
Speaker 1: because did Aft stake with m c A and the
Speaker 1: whole ship. I think that was when quality came out
Speaker 1: and sound Brian and Jared. But they was trying to
Speaker 1: get fucking Coogi Wrap to do songs with Nellie and
Speaker 1: ship like they was David wilder Um. But they started out.
Speaker 1: They started out with the writer attention because I believe
Speaker 1: Raucus was probably the last label with As soon as
Speaker 1: they got the record, he was like, I'm funking with this.
Speaker 1: Soon as I started the razor the all I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give this a shot because it's Ruckers. They were thinking
Speaker 1: about the box and some some of the things weren't
Speaker 1: and some of the things then now they was killing
Speaker 1: it for a minute. So what happened? We killed Racers.
Speaker 1: I mean he's m c A. Em c A got
Speaker 1: in for half and the ship went left after Like
Speaker 1: I said, they was trying to get Coogi Rap to
Speaker 1: do songs and Nellie not knowing what they have. You
Speaker 1: got most you got quality. You got Ferrell months like,
Speaker 1: and these niggers are doing numbers with no radio play,
Speaker 1: Like I remember what Simon says got on High Night seven,
Speaker 1: like get the Nigger, like it was done that lawsuit
Speaker 1: and did them. But they had crazy. That was that
Speaker 1: was crazy. But Roucus was Rucus was sucking crazy. I
Speaker 1: remember crazy. Story about rock is real quick. I'm at
Speaker 1: Conway Studios in l a Machine studio. I'm with my
Speaker 1: girl at the time, Esther Dean, who was like a
Speaker 1: super big pop writer. How you know everybody's name? Star
Speaker 1: forgetting nobody's name, he like, he describes it so great.
Speaker 1: So I'm with I'm with Esther and she goes to
Speaker 1: a session with Dr Luke right at this time, this
Speaker 1: is fucking Katie Perry and like killing the ship, right.
Speaker 1: So she's in there cutting of vocals. I'm sitting out
Speaker 1: on the little patio. Dr Luke comes out and he
Speaker 1: got a guitark. So we're just sitting there. He's like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: you know how long you and you and her been dating.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, that's the amount of time. And
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, you look wild familiar. He was like,
Speaker 1: where are you from? I said, I'm from Virginia, said
Speaker 1: where you from? He was like, I'm from New York.
Speaker 1: I was like, I said, yo, you ever ever been
Speaker 1: Raucus Records? And this one Funer's playing can talk and
Speaker 1: didn't stop. He said, oh Raucous. I was like yeah,
Speaker 1: he said yeah, No, I used to be at Raucus.
Speaker 1: He's like, I used to sell Brian and Jared their weed.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what Dr Luke, Katie Perry Katie Perry Cashier.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I'm like, yo, I saw you at Raucus.
Speaker 1: He was like, no, I used to do like what
Speaker 1: you called it, dubstep remixes. He's like, I would do
Speaker 1: dumb euro remixes. And they realized that every time that
Speaker 1: they would, uh, I would do a remix in the UK,
Speaker 1: the ship would get b d s. They spins will
Speaker 1: go up. He was like, so I started doing remixes
Speaker 1: one that give me that from a cappella and then
Speaker 1: one day I think this is what he says that
Speaker 1: one day like one of the rappers left his voice
Speaker 1: right now, hero, one of the rappers left some weed
Speaker 1: in my studio and I just fucking started selling them
Speaker 1: that the weed. And I'm sitting there going Dr Luke
Speaker 1: was fucking killing the game pop game killing it. Used
Speaker 1: to sell weed to fucking Brian and Jerry, that Raucus
Speaker 1: and then the nigga looks at me. He was like,
Speaker 1: he's looking at the air like Raucus Records. He's like,
Speaker 1: do you think that name would like mean something? Now?
Speaker 1: I was like, what you mean? He's like, you know what?
Speaker 1: Like the emergence is of like the you know, the
Speaker 1: j Coles and the Kendricks. I wonder if I just
Speaker 1: bought the name. And I'm sitting there going, you said,
Speaker 1: let's be partner, Like this is crazy, like super ill
Speaker 1: when like bro as far as songwriter as he's he's
Speaker 1: right behind Max Martin, which is probably the top top tier.
Speaker 1: Let you know how much I know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: You don't know Maxin. Look it up, Dr Luke. Max
Speaker 1: Martin plaining me, come on, please, I don't wanna look
Speaker 1: it up. Max Martin started out nine before right maybe
Speaker 1: nice the year he was born right, but he's had
Speaker 1: a hit on the charts. Britney Spears, Backstreet, Taylor, Taylor
Speaker 1: Swift are on the ground. Like Dr Lucas his his protege.
Speaker 1: He took him under. He's fucking Kesha Katie Perry. Nick
Speaker 1: had a pop run that was like a Songwriter of
Speaker 1: the Year a bazillion times over. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like I pay attention to all types of songwriters, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it just as far as
Speaker 1: writing songs like so, um when I got when I
Speaker 1: did the Nicky ship, Um, I did the Nicky song. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I did the Nicky song. You can't just pop
Speaker 1: pop record. You can talk ABOUTNICKI. I don't know. First
Speaker 1: of all, I ain't writing Nicky raps. She write all
Speaker 1: her wraps. Hook for Nicky called the Night is still young?
Speaker 1: Pop record? Pop record comes out and I'm I'm at
Speaker 1: home looking at this. Was when I think Taylor Swift
Speaker 1: and Nicky got into a little twitter be for whatever.
Speaker 1: Remember that the other chick and Taylor Swift jumped in.
Speaker 1: Then they made up, and then they come out at
Speaker 1: the MTV Awards and I'm watching Taylor Swift on stage
Speaker 1: the MTV Awards sing my words and I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: nigga like niggas, niggas like us can get there. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like pop music is is pop music.
Speaker 1: But it's still all music. It's only two kinds of music. Look,
Speaker 1: get up when you see Taylor Swift when it happened
Speaker 1: for you. If you see Taylor Swift singing what you
Speaker 1: wrote and your singing mother, now, man like to watch
Speaker 1: that happen as a songwriter. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like I write all conds of songs, bro Like, I
Speaker 1: just do what I do. Fucking uh. Black men don't cheat.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. For for Duval dude, that
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I could see that, I could see
Speaker 1: that I was pissed when I wrote that. What happened? Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you shot, Let's get another shot.
Speaker 1: You remember the video? I don't know if you remember.
Speaker 1: It was a world star shop was it was this
Speaker 1: girl at McDonald's, black girl, drunk, white dude comes into McDonald's,
Speaker 1: starts talking crazy tour and he said some tour, and
Speaker 1: the black girls just start beating his ass at McDonald's
Speaker 1: across the camp and then there's two dudes in the back,
Speaker 1: like two black dudes, young dudes just looking like yo,
Speaker 1: like damn, he should beating the funk out. And it
Speaker 1: was just an onslaught of light Black women like see,
Speaker 1: this is this is why we don't funk with y'all.
Speaker 1: Y'all don't protect us. Why the fund is this girl
Speaker 1: at McDonald's fighting this man and y'all niggas watching, You're
Speaker 1: not helping. And I'm sitting there going, no, she was
Speaker 1: whipping this nigga ass at one point this ship, she
Speaker 1: and you know how you be at work and you
Speaker 1: gotta everybody got that person that worked there, like, yo,
Speaker 1: don't don't funk with Kim Kimball beat yours with Kim.
Speaker 1: So they watching her beat his ass and black women
Speaker 1: just went crazy online. Was all on the blogs and
Speaker 1: ship and I'm just sitting there watching and she's like,
Speaker 1: why it's always our fault? Like Dad, what what we do?
Speaker 1: So in that moment, I was like, yeo, I want
Speaker 1: to piss off every black woman in America. And I
Speaker 1: wrote black Men Don't Cheat that day, and I was
Speaker 1: about to do the video and I'm sending the video
Speaker 1: to to Apion Nick Cannon, and I just want nigga
Speaker 1: to sing the hook black men don't Cheat because I'm like,
Speaker 1: when black women see this ship, they're gonna be mad
Speaker 1: as fun. So I sent this ship to Charlemagne. Charlemagne
Speaker 1: calls me like, Yo, you know who need this record?
Speaker 1: I said who? He said, a little du vo. This
Speaker 1: is right after um living my best life. He said, Yo,
Speaker 1: you said it a little duvo. But I believe this record.
Speaker 1: So you're telling me I'm a black cousin because I
Speaker 1: thought it was real. Oh listen, I don't cheat. I'm
Speaker 1: a black man, black boys right right now. Here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Duvall was being funny. Charlemagne was like, no, nigga, that's
Speaker 1: about to be the new way I want this ship
Speaker 1: to be. I want this you to be a nigga
Speaker 1: who don't cheat on his girl, will be able to
Speaker 1: work out to the ship and say no, nigga black.
Speaker 1: I want to us to be a movement. So I'm like, y'all,
Speaker 1: go ahead, gave him the record. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1: And I figured it was it was it was. It
Speaker 1: worked because it was like it was one nigger that
Speaker 1: was controversial and then one nigger that was funny. Somethings
Speaker 1: are gonna take it as a joke, but Charlottage took
Speaker 1: a super serious. So I was two days away from
Speaker 1: putting out Black men thought she has bad skills, and
Speaker 1: Charlotte Mage was like, yea, you shoul to get this
Speaker 1: in the Duke baigges Man, Charlotte Mane and that you know,
Speaker 1: that's how skills a real drinker. He's taking a shot.
Speaker 1: What a shot? What a regular drink? And I'm thinking
Speaker 1: the p and I actually this already. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: if I did. But what is your favorite part of
Speaker 1: the game? Music? Just just but the music. That's still
Speaker 1: a two part answer, because is it making the music
Speaker 1: or performing the music? I don't really like I like DJ.
Speaker 1: Now I'm a DJ. I've been DJM for five years
Speaker 1: and the passion that I lost for rapping I gained
Speaker 1: in DJ. So for me, it's all it's just music
Speaker 1: is the hub of all of this ship. I started
Speaker 1: out making music, then I ended up writing music for
Speaker 1: other people. Um, now I'm playing music. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. No, No, not just DJ like I DJ heavy,
Speaker 1: like DJ heavy man. I love I love DJ and
Speaker 1: and the the respect that I have for that craft
Speaker 1: because because when I'm from it's like like being from Virginia,
Speaker 1: we always felt like we had to use underdogs. So
Speaker 1: when I started DJ and I was like, I don't
Speaker 1: want to be a rapper. Niggas like, oh yeah, he's
Speaker 1: just up there sucking around, Like that's not scals. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. If he funked up like real
Speaker 1: DC Live Nigga lived. I wanted to be the best.
Speaker 1: I wanted to be good. So when niggas think about
Speaker 1: rappers that used to DJ, I wanted him to think
Speaker 1: about me. D nice biss mark you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: was like, pray yourself a biss, keep pushing through. Um.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I wanted to be one
Speaker 1: of those rappers that people take serious as a DJ.
Speaker 1: So I got in the room and started sucking, practicing
Speaker 1: hard body on my own mixing, mixing, because what you
Speaker 1: gotta understand is that when I get a gig, like
Speaker 1: I did a gig Lass Night, so it's like, when
Speaker 1: I get a gig, I'm gonna get niggas and just
Speaker 1: booked me on the name. It's like, that's that's the
Speaker 1: whole mean, let's get him a back real quicker. He don't.
Speaker 1: Let's bring it through, but I want to kill it.
Speaker 1: I want to tell that on some kick appre ship,
Speaker 1: on some motherfucking s And that's what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: wanted a part of J Kick Apri hands down, Kick Apre.
Speaker 1: I would say, Kick Apre is definitely my first party
Speaker 1: right now, A party I would love to go to.
Speaker 1: D J Camillo, Yes, I can't live You're not community,
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, it'd be Koreans in there, Like how you
Speaker 1: Koreans calling something international? Yeah? Yeah, because I feel like
Speaker 1: I feel like as a DJ, I don't know nobody
Speaker 1: that likes just one type of music. Like if I
Speaker 1: ask you to name me your favorite songs, you might
Speaker 1: name me some some reggae ships, some that ship and
Speaker 1: saying nobody likes just one genre of music. So I
Speaker 1: don't think you should ever just play one genre music.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm the type person like
Speaker 1: if I'm if I'm DJing for for black people, I
Speaker 1: know what before I Let Go does to black people,
Speaker 1: right right? I know what that means to black people?
Speaker 1: Oh what's that ship? Bobs and Claire? What's the song
Speaker 1: play was talking about? Like? I want to know, right,
Speaker 1: don't know? I want to take you know, as a DJ,
Speaker 1: As a DJ, I want to know for every for
Speaker 1: every person that could be at a party. What is
Speaker 1: what is the music for them? People coming up to
Speaker 1: you request Yeah, but I don't usually take them. I'm like,
Speaker 1: if you were, you never don't want to. Yeah. Cool,
Speaker 1: But the one thing is, I never want people to
Speaker 1: come to a party. But oh, he's just gonna play
Speaker 1: some nineties hip hop. I'm gonna get some nas, some
Speaker 1: play all that ship. I play everything because the DJ
Speaker 1: a real DJ. It ain't about me, It's about y'all
Speaker 1: for New Home. Oh, man, listen, I'm playing twenty one Savage.
Speaker 1: I'm playing a legend. Yeah, yeah, I'm playing. I'm playing.
Speaker 1: I'm playing. You know is going and five year old?
Speaker 1: You go? If I'm in New York, which ain't been yet,
Speaker 1: you've been shaking some New York shots. Later, man, you're like,
Speaker 1: you know I'm saying I love you, love y'all man,
Speaker 1: you can still listen. Listen, listen, I pull up. I
Speaker 1: love y'all man, Like, listen, what's y'all I've done for
Speaker 1: the culture? Can never be a race. But who's who's
Speaker 1: the newest guy? You gotta set? I needed I need
Speaker 1: to need to know this in my set. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: the newest lab A couple I'll probably play like I said, Savage,
Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna hear thug. How about CJ whoop
Speaker 1: d you're not playing whoop? You definitely got a problem
Speaker 1: New York playing Roddy Rebel. Okay, I'm saying when I'm
Speaker 1: playing that you've got two drinks. Ship. I was ready
Speaker 1: for two. Yeah. Man, I'm not doing too but I
Speaker 1: don't feel it up a little more. But you gotta
Speaker 1: play a little c J whoop. Okay, for the rest,
Speaker 1: it ain't fun. It's not it's for us. It's not false.
Speaker 1: Yes it's by us, but it's not for food boom back,
Speaker 1: it's mo foo. And we said we said your favorite
Speaker 1: every we said your favorite part of the game. Yes, Salo, Salo, Salo,
Speaker 1: So nobody said every cull I got through the side.
Speaker 1: That was not enough for me. I'm gonna be an honest.
Speaker 1: I'm going right back here. You got big as ice
Speaker 1: cubes happened. Man, that's a nice cube. Nice cube to
Speaker 1: go for a pause? Join will join you for a second.
Speaker 1: Damn you got motherfucker mad skills. Joes. You want to
Speaker 1: come in here? You want to come in ship? What's up? Jones?
Speaker 1: And I will say, like, big shout to you, because
Speaker 1: anytime somebody that was hit that was hit from VA,
Speaker 1: the first thing you would always say was not the
Speaker 1: first thing I ever heard of. I was playing your
Speaker 1: records out here, I was on the X Tams everything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got dropped from you. How can I be down?
Speaker 1: Like thank you? And I mean when you said it
Speaker 1: to me, like you was like no, like drops to me?
Speaker 1: The old ship was like, now is that preussure? Give
Speaker 1: stram much goddamn c so anyone take four shots to
Speaker 1: catch up? You can take the mask off right now?
Speaker 1: Looking a little crazy right now, I appreciate that you're not,
Speaker 1: But like it is that I'm certain about the pressure
Speaker 1: because or is it like all right, let me civilize
Speaker 1: the question. JA Prince, j Prince here? Okay, So to
Speaker 1: a certain stand, everybody from Houston, Texas feels like they
Speaker 1: have to have a Jake Prince stamp a Jay Prince?
Speaker 1: Is it like that? Not for me? Like I don't
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not the person where they feel like
Speaker 1: they have to get through me. I want everybody to
Speaker 1: win because, like I said, we come from a place
Speaker 1: where nobody ever got off. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: so um, I would love to see the young you know,
Speaker 1: like like like the kid pushing god Car. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like I would love to see new
Speaker 1: artists coming up from the city, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like from the state, because I, like I said, I
Speaker 1: realized that it ain't about me no more. Like how
Speaker 1: opened the door so you could get the Farrells, the Misses, Eclipses.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, The Magoo's open that door,
Speaker 1: so it's only right that the door stay open. Like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I don't want to be Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't want I don't open the door to close
Speaker 1: the motherfucker. I mean like I want this ship. I
Speaker 1: want everybody to win because because you gotta understand, we
Speaker 1: we birth probably two of the biggest producers in the
Speaker 1: fucking game period, not just in Virginia hip hop like
Speaker 1: Nigga hands down, these niggas big niggas is producers. They
Speaker 1: are song craftsmanships. They know exactly what they're doing. I've
Speaker 1: seen it at a at a at a at an
Speaker 1: early level. I remember being in the studio in Master
Speaker 1: Sound when Niggas was working on Buster. What it is
Speaker 1: right now in one room and was working on Grahamey
Speaker 1: and the next just back. I was there so active,
Speaker 1: so aptly. I was there. So you hear you here
Speaker 1: to buck and then Prime like now I'm like, is
Speaker 1: on fire. You know what I'm saying. Wagons and ship
Speaker 1: in the last you know what I'm saying. Working, It
Speaker 1: was working. So it wasn't this ship didn't come to
Speaker 1: Farrell and Chad and Tim easy man like they was working.
Speaker 1: We was all working. Goddamn make looks for that at
Speaker 1: that building away with that. You ain't take your shottle.
Speaker 1: Motherfucking mass kills man makes a motherfucking noise. I ain't
Speaker 1: drinking either. I'm it's cool now we're not drinkings either.
Speaker 1: We just we just do it camera. So, um, who's
Speaker 1: your favorite producer? If you have one track, listen to
Speaker 1: one trap. This is one track. God comes to you
Speaker 1: and says, listen, You're gonna live forever, m but you
Speaker 1: gotta make me one wrapperpe gonna make me one wrapper,
Speaker 1: one producer for the rest of your life. You live eternally.
Speaker 1: But it's one producer you gotta lock it with. Is
Speaker 1: it a producer you never worked with? Or is the
Speaker 1: producer you're comfortable with? And who is that producers? Great question.
Speaker 1: I can't lie. I express myself. That's that's that's for
Speaker 1: l As for Royal Williams all day, I've never seen
Speaker 1: nobody make music the way that he does, with the
Speaker 1: passion that he does, you know what I'm saying, And
Speaker 1: to to be you know, to be an inspiration to
Speaker 1: all of us. You know what I'm saying, Like that
Speaker 1: nigga is he seriously loves music, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And that's where I can relate to him because it's
Speaker 1: like I love I love rapping, I love DJ and
Speaker 1: I love writing so all some motherfucker's. I love fucking
Speaker 1: helping niggas put the snare wherever. But it also it
Speaker 1: all revolves around music. So to be around somebody loves
Speaker 1: music just as much, that's the whole point of the game,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like want, I want to
Speaker 1: take the time about the big up. Our engineer has
Speaker 1: it the sounds because every time has this sounds, well,
Speaker 1: I do a record with them, give me two or
Speaker 1: three different versions of a record. I love it. I
Speaker 1: tell him, it reminds me of what reality should do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: every records I ever have it for besides Super Thug
Speaker 1: was the third version of that actual record. Like he'll
Speaker 1: try a whole new beat hold and be like and
Speaker 1: I like before I hate that ship. He'd be like
Speaker 1: a cool bo and he'll just keep keep shooting shots.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like you don't go to the gym
Speaker 1: just to shoot one free throwne. Maybe you're gonna keep
Speaker 1: shooting shots, you know what I'm saying. So at that point,
Speaker 1: something's gonna fall and hopefully you'll shoot so many that
Speaker 1: when this game time, you'll make that motherfuck makes mother
Speaker 1: actually saying in question. But yours is different because your
Speaker 1: money gonna slow up. Because once you don't name a
Speaker 1: rapper that they love you, you got one record to produce,
Speaker 1: Lifetime Guards says you're gonna live for got one one
Speaker 1: artist one orders to work with to make a turn.
Speaker 1: So I'm just throwing it out there. Is he a
Speaker 1: live Yeah? Some day? All right? Uh? I go with
Speaker 1: with my goat is NASO. I would do with nas
Speaker 1: that have me worked with nas in the studio before,
Speaker 1: you might not I didn't beat, I didn't be, but
Speaker 1: ive never been in the studio with him. So he
Speaker 1: rung on one of your beats on the Jade album
Speaker 1: he did, He's on that joint. So God comes to you,
Speaker 1: says you liberturnal or even go to shake Tar, maybe
Speaker 1: jay Z. But you just just yeah, yeah, answer which one?
Speaker 1: You don't go one of them too? But we need
Speaker 1: to pick one. I said nas for us. That's that's
Speaker 1: that's who I was wronging with growing up, the more
Speaker 1: than Jay. You know what I'm saying. So that's like
Speaker 1: some golding go Look, okay, as a producer T G E.
Speaker 1: F year, you get those teams from I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know you want to do with DJ College DJ
Speaker 1: Clue album. You got one producer and one artist to pick.
Speaker 1: God says, if you make it work, you live eternally.
Speaker 1: If you don't make it work, you're gonna work with
Speaker 1: the Shape. Well. I already had a chance to work
Speaker 1: with Premiere on my album. My last album is The
Speaker 1: beat Maker. Are you picking with me again? I will
Speaker 1: go again. I like what you're going so far, and
Speaker 1: I'll go with Cube Man because she was my favorite
Speaker 1: artist growing up up to what my favorite might not
Speaker 1: five me? Look it. I don't think i've ever heard it,
Speaker 1: so I had them together. He definitely in my top five. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I want this, that's that's that's that's the Cube
Speaker 1: by one On. That was Pete Rock, That was pro
Speaker 1: that Rock did so which which was the Premo? Joe
Speaker 1: A Primo did the joint where they sucking sample me
Speaker 1: the game. I never come Lane tight killing in the game.
Speaker 1: Primo did that, did Cratches. I'm bumkingna be honest with you.
Speaker 1: I think you need to come up with your aunt Thorus.
Speaker 1: Thus the Thoris steps up. You're making me because you
Speaker 1: know I'm sitting back like you're like Google. He's a
Speaker 1: professor for God says he meets with deeds and they
Speaker 1: for him boys free style? How do you know? Maybe
Speaker 1: like why are you on World Star World Store? Like
Speaker 1: why are you beating with a rapo? World Stop? And
Speaker 1: then want to answer the question the school play you
Speaker 1: ask the question. Don't want to ask him if he'd
Speaker 1: been a studio when when Missy was making the beat,
Speaker 1: because she makes me Missy don't had nobody in the
Speaker 1: studio when she recalled her voice. I've seen Missy, Missy, dude,
Speaker 1: you know she she maybe not sitting down playing, but
Speaker 1: as far I've never seen, but she'll definitely sit down
Speaker 1: and tell you I ready to go. Uh is that
Speaker 1: saying to call a puffy that you tell them how
Speaker 1: you dine? We call that. That's that's knowing what it
Speaker 1: isn't Quincy. Joe's mainly kind of yeah, yeah, but he
Speaker 1: can sit down to play too, but call it. Did
Speaker 1: he do so when you could just say I wanted
Speaker 1: to go un the same way like Drey is the
Speaker 1: same way, not saying he can't play. But the times
Speaker 1: that I've been around and Dre was definitely like you
Speaker 1: wrote with Dr Dre, I wrote some ship um it
Speaker 1: never came out was detox Um, but that was probably, um,
Speaker 1: probably one of the endest times because I've seen it's
Speaker 1: like being around Dre. If you ever in the session
Speaker 1: with Dre, it will be the most important session in
Speaker 1: your life, you know what I'm saying. Like, And I
Speaker 1: came out there and I'm bugging because we with the
Speaker 1: hollywe with the Hollywood Hills and the fucking Laker games
Speaker 1: on and it's me, Dre and the man that brought
Speaker 1: me there and maybe like two other people. And I
Speaker 1: go in and I'm writing, I'm writing a song and
Speaker 1: he he talking to his men. He's like, yo, like
Speaker 1: it's like boring, Like you think we should bring some
Speaker 1: people around. He's like, I mean, I mean, if you
Speaker 1: want Dre, He's like, yeah, I think we should get
Speaker 1: some people. It's kind of boring game all. And I
Speaker 1: go back in the room because I don't want niggers
Speaker 1: to think I'm there just the fucking party. And I'm
Speaker 1: coming from the right. So I go back in the
Speaker 1: room and right and I come out and I tell
Speaker 1: him I said, yo, I got it done, he said,
Speaker 1: I come in, So he comes in. He listened to it.
Speaker 1: He said, Yo, I want you to change line eight,
Speaker 1: line fourteen, and line three. And I'm like, okay, bom
Speaker 1: and he's like yeah, make it like you're the one,
Speaker 1: like make it go uh time. I like say something
Speaker 1: like to the tod tod and I'm like, okay, cool.
Speaker 1: So I say it, and then I fu I'm working
Speaker 1: on these three lines that he wants me to change.
Speaker 1: And then I come back out to tell him that
Speaker 1: I redid it, and it's it's a whole fucking part
Speaker 1: and I'm like, God, damn. Dr Dre just blink his
Speaker 1: fucking eyes and people show him crazy. Yeah yeah, And
Speaker 1: it's Grammy weekend, so it's it's sucking buzzle say how
Speaker 1: to go down? So it's Grammy weekend and I'll do
Speaker 1: the joint and we finish, everybody leaves and I'm talking
Speaker 1: to him and I'm like, yo, man, like like he's like,
Speaker 1: like you like the record. He was like, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a with it. I might cut the reference ship.
Speaker 1: He says it's dope. And I was like, yo, man,
Speaker 1: I love the house. Man like, this ship is amazing, man,
Speaker 1: Like I'm in the house right, so like the no,
Speaker 1: I'm in the house and I'm like, yo, man, this
Speaker 1: is beautiful. Man like this that's amazing. This home you
Speaker 1: build here, know what I'm saying. Like, and he said, um,
Speaker 1: I never forget this ship. The nigger said up, yeah,
Speaker 1: not this the crib. This is this is like the
Speaker 1: party crib. I said, what you mean? He said, it's
Speaker 1: like yo, um he said, no, I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: like stay here like I don't like lay my head hand.
Speaker 1: I said what you mean? He said no, no, just
Speaker 1: like the Cribit crib billion dollars ships like the crib.
Speaker 1: But you gotta come out, he said, skills. You gotta
Speaker 1: come out in the sun. I'd be having ship cracking
Speaker 1: barbecue with the homies. I said, Yo, you don't live
Speaker 1: in He said, like with my wife and family. I
Speaker 1: said yeah, he said, oh no, crazy, craziest ship ever.
Speaker 1: It was the Grammys. I can't remember what year it was,
Speaker 1: but funk I was like this, nigga, don't even live
Speaker 1: in this house. Like this is fucking insane. This this
Speaker 1: house is don't even live in. It was a chill
Speaker 1: crib that that's someone that we need on drink champs
Speaker 1: and shout out to Smitty who was trying to make
Speaker 1: it happen. He's he's in that camp. He's a writer
Speaker 1: going to him under the bus. But let's let's make
Speaker 1: it happen. So I leave the crib and I'm with
Speaker 1: the home me and we're driving and I'm sucking kind
Speaker 1: of like the homies kind of faded. So he's like, yo,
Speaker 1: can you drive. I'm like, I bet I'm driving. I
Speaker 1: made the right I come out and these men and
Speaker 1: black niggers come out of norwhere and with the fucking
Speaker 1: end pieces of black glasses and I'm like, yo, what
Speaker 1: the fund is going on? And do like Yo, where
Speaker 1: are you going? I said, you know, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: get back down the sunset. He's like, yeah, no, not
Speaker 1: back up, do a three point turn, go back that way.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I like, I felt like he was about
Speaker 1: to pull out on me. So I'm the homie and
Speaker 1: he fuked up being the passenger. See. I turned the
Speaker 1: car around, went the car around. I stopped on in
Speaker 1: the hill. I said, Yo, what the fund was that? Bro?
Speaker 1: He said, Yo, my bag, Yo, that's something Leonardo to
Speaker 1: Cappy over. You can't go up his street. I said, bro,
Speaker 1: what the fun like? Ship was crazy and being around
Speaker 1: you have to know you have to answer this now
Speaker 1: your producer. But that's the thing I read knew that
Speaker 1: say that. So now you're gonna take a feature on
Speaker 1: the track, last feature in your life? Yeah, jack stop
Speaker 1: it stop it. That's to be artist man. But he
Speaker 1: could be alive or death. It does matter. Really like
Speaker 1: Easy like that. I really love Easy. I just love
Speaker 1: his persona. I just love this, like when I went
Speaker 1: back and I really studied. You know, his life is crazy.
Speaker 1: I just love this crazy like I love I think
Speaker 1: he might be my top one. That's the piece why
Speaker 1: I actually that question earlier. It's like, why do I
Speaker 1: expect him so much? When it comes down to like
Speaker 1: there's other people like I get. I just think there's
Speaker 1: different categories that we should be kind of Like I
Speaker 1: can't put it nigga in front of your nigga who
Speaker 1: he influenced or did he nigga he was influenced bot.
Speaker 1: I can't put Hove in front of came because Hove
Speaker 1: was directly influenced by Cage. And I agree with you
Speaker 1: to a certain STI because you know the reason why
Speaker 1: I agree with you a certain steps because one thing
Speaker 1: about these young dudes, they're not gonna respect respect. They're
Speaker 1: gonna respect what they see is it in front of them?
Speaker 1: Like like the thing about it is like, you know
Speaker 1: the old dude on the block that got the most knowledge,
Speaker 1: but it's a drunk. He's actually hitting you with the
Speaker 1: most vilege in the world, but pissing on the stuffs.
Speaker 1: But not every block is a drunk. That's not a
Speaker 1: good analogy. It's not fair to compare to that. They
Speaker 1: just an example, I know, But the young guys only
Speaker 1: seen with in front of them. We have to teach
Speaker 1: him what's beyond in front of them because that's what's
Speaker 1: most important, and that's what our role is. Like I
Speaker 1: can't put it. It is in front of Kane because
Speaker 1: I know who can influence came influence Jay. He influenced
Speaker 1: Big Like if there wasn't no Big Dady Cane, that
Speaker 1: couldn't be Bruce Lineage. So I could never dish in
Speaker 1: front of the young nigger that doesn't that says I'm
Speaker 1: with just Jack and that's it. I don't because I
Speaker 1: see what he sees too. It's just like you know
Speaker 1: what I love Maham Molley, I really do, got to,
Speaker 1: but I've never seen a love behind my leaf fight right,
Speaker 1: actually see all the Floyd by Rollers fights my book.
Speaker 1: Oh Mike, Mike, I think Floyd by Riel is the
Speaker 1: best box of all times. Who do you think the
Speaker 1: best rapp of balls? Who are your top five? Are
Speaker 1: you said? Easy is top five? Easy? You easy? Eat
Speaker 1: Bis Markey? Yeah? I love that list can wrote for
Speaker 1: this Cane. It's my six pick a bug that's today,
Speaker 1: for today, for the three days? Ye bread Daddy? Are
Speaker 1: you like Bess Markey's grandpop hard? That's so I think
Speaker 1: of the Randoms care at one for me? She rock
Speaker 1: more on the year four. We need one more and
Speaker 1: I'll never do this. Give you that fit for it, right.
Speaker 1: I don't gotta go queens with you because fucking y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all not the bat ship, y'all not growing up. I
Speaker 1: said right there that you. I said, could you back?
Speaker 1: You gotta say, could top D made have five? Pull that? Yeah? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Tomorrow might be something differ today something I'm feeling very
Speaker 1: lyrical and scaled in front of you. And that's my
Speaker 1: fucking five. What's up? Five man? Five? Number five is
Speaker 1: I'm funked up now at this point. No, not chip ship.
Speaker 1: We gotta shot. It's too it's too late more. I
Speaker 1: don't know you come you'll remember your five? You really
Speaker 1: a five two point fun with you? I'm from with
Speaker 1: you on some sets, So I let him go. I
Speaker 1: got yeah, five, no word unless you want to happen. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I don't do that or don't do Number five is
Speaker 1: as I'm in, I'm there with you. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: you wanna be mad. You're gonna be mad? Number four
Speaker 1: black thought, why you be mad? People? Number three whole
Speaker 1: not bad yet. I seem to need the righte lops
Speaker 1: and shrimp right, in front. That was far was hard,
Speaker 1: that was hard, number too. Big Daddy came, mm hmm,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be no mad scuses. Big Daddy came, I
Speaker 1: respect that number three, I mean number up. You're number
Speaker 1: number one, greatest all time. Go to meld On, hold on,
Speaker 1: everybody hates you, dude, gold time greatest rap hole. I
Speaker 1: don't get better be kill rock him, nigga, don't nobody
Speaker 1: can be question Yes, give me five niggas, five rappers,
Speaker 1: and I'd never be in your top five. Jesus, that's
Speaker 1: let's do it. Let's do it. And this guy is
Speaker 1: actually at my TI won't time racks, he must top
Speaker 1: five and he won't never be fun up now, I
Speaker 1: mean I couldn't been you. You didn't want that, stupid
Speaker 1: you know you never be in my top phol stop
Speaker 1: not now, I'm going back to back with you. Sip
Speaker 1: Shot can never be in my top respect respect when
Speaker 1: you can't. I'm okay, sip the Shot can never be
Speaker 1: in my top five. So this give me a nothing
Speaker 1: every source of stopping. There's just see no back right now.
Speaker 1: Let's see him back so that he can never be
Speaker 1: your time fire. Give me another one. Let's it a
Speaker 1: hard let me get let me live with this one, definitely,
Speaker 1: I love, I love that love. If they never they
Speaker 1: will never be your top five Armis, Juice Jones and didn't.
Speaker 1: I don't don't care a rap I'm trying to be.
Speaker 1: Never be it's how five, Nor rest player a wrapper
Speaker 1: you John what we're talking about? Nor never be in
Speaker 1: my top five Murphy the same ticks. Never tell you next,
Speaker 1: good scrap Joe, you're not gonna do befom and twine
Speaker 1: fucking you's getting ready pretty hardcore, Never be hard, say
Speaker 1: no disrespect. I love the group. I say a Malachia nutcrack.
Speaker 1: No that Malachi, it's how five the group Rupper still skids.
Speaker 1: Not like the wrapper you like, it's actually like the
Speaker 1: mala clue it was. You aren't giving, you're getting. Let's
Speaker 1: go train this now because I'm gonna give a like
Speaker 1: a regular like funking. Let's go No, No, I don't go, man,
Speaker 1: come back come back to no net wrapper never be okay,
Speaker 1: get you right, okay to five? Top doesn't come back
Speaker 1: to You'll never be telling its top top five that
Speaker 1: sees like never, he'll never be. It's our five. We'll
Speaker 1: never be in top five. You don't mean, they just
Speaker 1: mean they're not. It's best to just making sure they're
Speaker 1: not coming on Drink champ soon because I wanted, No,
Speaker 1: I want them to be drink We're trying to be
Speaker 1: politically No, it's not politically correct. I just want them
Speaker 1: to tell the story of get itself, just thinking get
Speaker 1: you next, get your No you don't you know? Yeah,
Speaker 1: the tag team do team would never be in five.
Speaker 1: Tag team who that is wouldn't be never be your
Speaker 1: top five. I'm not gonna love and I love these
Speaker 1: guys and I live in Miami. That's so terrible smiles
Speaker 1: the South stuff. Oh yeah, they don't be my and
Speaker 1: my boy names. There it right with me. I was
Speaker 1: going to a long cool without Luke. He We're like, buddy,
Speaker 1: whoa what? Just same times he's a whack there not
Speaker 1: Vericlos and were trying to find an Icos. I'll do
Speaker 1: another Showyes, I mean that's what. That's the East. That's
Speaker 1: so oh, I had it. I got it then, great.
Speaker 1: Never pade my top five. I'm paying pennies. I'm patting
Speaker 1: my feet. Spram Joe Nick never be his top five?
Speaker 1: What about own? What's her name? From from Rockefeller to Garden.
Speaker 1: But a male was like show his name a meal,
Speaker 1: learning it's top I get, I get very safe. Now
Speaker 1: who the busts? Who got the bus? Let's go? Who
Speaker 1: would never dream of my top five? The thing is,
Speaker 1: I have people in my mind and it's just like, nah,
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not worried about him. Like's not she
Speaker 1: thought of that because I don't think that. Like I
Speaker 1: don't want to throw share anybody. It doesn't deserve it
Speaker 1: any No. I'm just it's not saying you whack. It's
Speaker 1: just saying you would never say it does say in
Speaker 1: your whack, and it is it is. And the thing
Speaker 1: that people I'm thinking are alleged in my mind, but
Speaker 1: they lyrically, they don't stand up to the top five.
Speaker 1: I'm never being Norm's top five. I'm not skills fro
Speaker 1: from Virginia. That's cool. I ain't sucking a hold na
Speaker 1: mother fucking easy top five. I know it, yeah easy
Speaker 1: my top five. As we can say a million people.
Speaker 1: But I think the minute you just say it, I
Speaker 1: just like doing it because niggas always going who he
Speaker 1: get top five? Like next top top top five, I'll
Speaker 1: name my top five big el Rock him, ice Cube
Speaker 1: scar Face might not already say okay and pun I
Speaker 1: like that. I like that. I like that you said Joyce,
Speaker 1: I said mine, let's positive, come on positive. Niggas on
Speaker 1: the shoulder just said fuck me, so I definitely say
Speaker 1: oh no, no, no no. He didn't say fucking me.
Speaker 1: He was taking to the shot. And this is when
Speaker 1: I'm good, I hope, just when you wanted, because I'm square.
Speaker 1: Who are you not do with? What's that? Will never
Speaker 1: be in my top five? And yours? Are you gonna?
Speaker 1: You probably skip? You? Wait? I said something, I said,
Speaker 1: you say nothing. I said it was a tap team.
Speaker 1: You don't know that is team? If see brains will
Speaker 1: never be in my top I see brains. I mean
Speaker 1: he won't be my top five. That would never be
Speaker 1: in my Virginia? Who relevant playing with me? Who was
Speaker 1: relevant right now? Oh? A part of the light skin
Speaker 1: in my field, which I'm not a part of. I'm
Speaker 1: a part of the dog skin community, fix up, run
Speaker 1: out of the Bears. I wanted to be with eight
Speaker 1: caring Joe Button is never going Joe wouldn't never be
Speaker 1: in my top do listen? I love like that? Who
Speaker 1: didn't say that doo joice he said, dude, like dude
Speaker 1: who doo doo smoothie another shooes. I've never heard of
Speaker 1: that when Joe, but it is a rapid You can't
Speaker 1: you can't say you know what y'all need is biased?
Speaker 1: What's that? Joe? Like? You know I ain't doing this
Speaker 1: with you? But you know he lokey you music? No,
Speaker 1: he Loki got mad at me because I put him
Speaker 1: in the wrap up and ship. What did you say
Speaker 1: about how to jerks off his goal? I mean that
Speaker 1: was a little weird, bro, that was weird. I said
Speaker 1: the girds weird. That was weird. There's no way to
Speaker 1: getting about how weird that was me. I didn't see it.
Speaker 1: I just know about the fun I talked about Wait
Speaker 1: a minute, jerking a little and like you sain't pleasure
Speaker 1: his doughs because the dogs, he said, girls. So you
Speaker 1: don't say he join he joined on the show My lack.
Speaker 1: I didn't come to Miami to talk about Joe Button
Speaker 1: jerking on his door and jumped on his door. I
Speaker 1: got a losing for you. I don't said the reason
Speaker 1: he said. He said, his dog needs to get him,
Speaker 1: need to release so and jump he had to help
Speaker 1: the dog. What you know, I had it. It wasn't
Speaker 1: a joke. The joke and then he missed. Joe Bladen
Speaker 1: was some motion in his head Turkey girl happy happy,
Speaker 1: this drink cham happy. Like he got mad at me
Speaker 1: because he was like, yo, to wrap up. They was like,
Speaker 1: I didn't listen. I don't I'm not, I don't listen
Speaker 1: to the podcast. I don't know. She's like yo. Joe
Speaker 1: said he was going to wrap up trash and did it,
Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, cool, like that's Joe opinion.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, he probably mac as I said.
Speaker 1: He jerked off his dogs and we're like, yo, like
Speaker 1: skills beat was trash. He trashed him and he got
Speaker 1: a it's a white boy whatever, white way, the black
Speaker 1: brother whatever. So I was like, I get so. I
Speaker 1: wasn't I kid it, but you jerked off your dog, boy,
Speaker 1: would you get mad at it? He talked about then
Speaker 1: he just seeing about the wrap now he talks about
Speaker 1: I don't know about to get the rap. He talked
Speaker 1: to sund like, you don't get mad about it. He
Speaker 1: talked about talked, I don't even know about if you
Speaker 1: weren't saying in your podcast. I know if he didn't.
Speaker 1: He he talked about he got He said that he
Speaker 1: was like, yo, he needed to release, so if they
Speaker 1: would have to do and there's like a lead. I
Speaker 1: don't know this ridal for something showing him, but I
Speaker 1: don't know it's real. I don't put it in a
Speaker 1: new wrap up because it might have been real. But
Speaker 1: I really told me the same ship, like got Great
Speaker 1: out of the Brute, were the same age. Somebody somebody
Speaker 1: pull up and see if that's I think there's a
Speaker 1: video of it. Yeah, somebody told me the video and
Speaker 1: he spoke on it. No sex is that serious? Death serious?
Speaker 1: He says that he kids to do it for his dog,
Speaker 1: for the benefit of his dog. That he now. They
Speaker 1: told me I got a bulldog, and they told me
Speaker 1: if I want to they told me they said, if
Speaker 1: I want to breathe my bulldog, I can make a
Speaker 1: lot of bread. But I gotta I gotta do this dog.
Speaker 1: He's doing it. They're saying bulldogs they have trouble. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, uh breathing. So the owner got
Speaker 1: to help. I was like, it's not that deep, jerk.
Speaker 1: You can make a lot of money or bulldogs, but
Speaker 1: you gotta do the dirty word. I said, I'm good
Speaker 1: with good that just want to drink your buddy. I'm paid.
Speaker 1: But this is what I'm saying. Though, If you said
Speaker 1: it in the wrapper and it's real, why why did
Speaker 1: he get mad at you? He got pissed because I
Speaker 1: guess I put his business on front because you must
Speaker 1: have said it in a way that was disrespectful. But
Speaker 1: do you think he can rapid? You can jump as
Speaker 1: weirdough he cool like I've never been a fan, but
Speaker 1: it is what it is. But here's the thing about
Speaker 1: the wrap up. If I put you in the wrap up,
Speaker 1: it's because it happened, right, I'm gonna put it in
Speaker 1: there because it happened. I'm not gonna be super distressed.
Speaker 1: I was super disrespectful old two oh three. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna be super disrespectful now because it ship don't make
Speaker 1: sense for me. And that's probably why old boys shit
Speaker 1: go up, because niggas want to hear the shade. They
Speaker 1: want to get a tea like he should do Hot
Speaker 1: Topics or Highlight seven. It would be good for him,
Speaker 1: but for me, I'm not going this year. I didn't
Speaker 1: The wrap up was eight minutes and forty six seconds,
Speaker 1: which was the same amount of time that the nigga
Speaker 1: had his knee or George Floyd, God bless. So for
Speaker 1: me it was more of a point. For me, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I get to the end of the soul and I say,
Speaker 1: the whole time he been listening to me was the
Speaker 1: whole time that that nigga had his knee on George
Speaker 1: Floyd's Imagine listening to a wrapper wrap that long and
Speaker 1: the nigga was fighting for it's like that long. So
Speaker 1: the wrap up had a meaning this ship. It was
Speaker 1: eight minutes forty six seconds because the ship got to
Speaker 1: reflect the times. So for me, that's what it was.
Speaker 1: And I think they listened to it. They was like,
Speaker 1: oh that he was trashed the flows trashed, skills out
Speaker 1: of here and we're working with the other one. I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, cool, But it was a meaning to the ship.
Speaker 1: Why it was as long as it was, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So that's why I did what I did.
Speaker 1: I respect to him, and the family hit me up like,
Speaker 1: you know, we appreciate that because I'm like, it's the
Speaker 1: simble or Floyd happened in the summer I don't want
Speaker 1: niggas to forget. I'm gonna try to remind niggas one
Speaker 1: more time, you know what I'm saying, just to let
Speaker 1: niggas know. So I got a questions. I gotta, I gotta.
Speaker 1: I got somebody that I would have put on the list.
Speaker 1: And I wonder and I want to know why, dude,
Speaker 1: Like I want to know the history behind mcgoole. I
Speaker 1: talked about that. We're talking about him talking about earlier
Speaker 1: because I'm wondering why he kept on get thrown in
Speaker 1: the cipher talking about it earlier like he he's doing well, man,
Speaker 1: super dope. Do know what I'm saying. But that's that's
Speaker 1: that was the reason why the ratfle wasn't the amount
Speaker 1: of time that it was. You know what I meant, questions,
Speaker 1: what's up? All right? I'm faded now at this point,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you that it happens. Who was in
Speaker 1: the room. I want to why he looked for his
Speaker 1: question who who was in the room? Because the way
Speaker 1: I became a skills fan was listening to Stretching Bob
Speaker 1: and that one free style you did. I know, you
Speaker 1: made a b side out of it. It was like
Speaker 1: punch laughter, punchline five minute straight. I forgot what beat was,
Speaker 1: but who that's what it was. It was called, but
Speaker 1: it had like some some underground like you know what
Speaker 1: that's you put it on the B side, but who
Speaker 1: who who? But there was other other mcs there though.
Speaker 1: Right me and cut stretching. Barbado went crazy. It was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: we're gonna invite you up here, but you gotta bring
Speaker 1: cute It. We need to interview Cute Tip so we
Speaker 1: could talk about So that was the way you got,
Speaker 1: so we could talk about these beats and how he's
Speaker 1: been doing one Love and the Naas remix. Cute Tim goals.
Speaker 1: When they uk me to rap, I'm gonna keep the
Speaker 1: ship to you and spit that ship. Yet he said,
Speaker 1: He said, spit that ship. You spit in the lobby,
Speaker 1: in the letter and the hotel. I said, I vote.
Speaker 1: Que Tip starts wrapping, throws the ship to me. I
Speaker 1: do the ship stretching. Barbado wasn't even had me up
Speaker 1: there if it wasn't for Cute Tip. And then Q
Speaker 1: Tip threw the ship to me and I did the
Speaker 1: verse and the ship went it went viral. I guess
Speaker 1: it's viral is now that ship was on vital bro. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the rock Steady in the Park start wrapping it. Everybody
Speaker 1: in Rocksteady in the Park would be And I was
Speaker 1: just going viral. Was that it was the King? Who?
Speaker 1: That was another rapper on that it was a song. No,
Speaker 1: it was Mark King, just instrumental. It was That's what
Speaker 1: I was gonna watch this, so I was gonna rock
Speaker 1: the soul Again Records had had a little compilation beating
Speaker 1: number four was that beat I wrapped over. I should
Speaker 1: never forgot, never forget that. You guys, Jack the Eliah.
Speaker 1: Are you that somebody reck? Yes, DJ Lonnie be danjer Monty,
Speaker 1: I have that vinyl big like it so much. She
Speaker 1: actually made it an efficient. Yes, that's one of the
Speaker 1: plaque I got earlier. Danje Mouth wrapped over it. Nie
Speaker 1: was in the heavier and shot DJ off shot Lonnie
Speaker 1: and his daughter too, which is the he the first
Speaker 1: DJ that has his own kid in the heavier. Danjer
Speaker 1: Mouth wrapped over first played it for me. I rapped
Speaker 1: over second, Lonnie his it, Bonnie be his and and goes, oh, no,
Speaker 1: I'm getting off like I need twelve balls. We do it.
Speaker 1: We give it to this before you can give your
Speaker 1: song to nigga the radio. Niggas played there. Niggas would
Speaker 1: never play a song in the radio or ninety eight.
Speaker 1: What you're rapping on it now, niggnna, you mean this depth? Jam,
Speaker 1: I'm not about to add you the case you mean.
Speaker 1: We did the song. The nigga who was p D
Speaker 1: at the radio station, he came up with us. He
Speaker 1: started playing the ship. The ship pops off, it gets
Speaker 1: the Timberland, it gets to Leah Aliyah. Like, now, I
Speaker 1: want them niggas that at the tunnel to perform with me.
Speaker 1: We performed with Aliyah at the tune that classic What
Speaker 1: what year? What years? That some Lenna tell you you
Speaker 1: know what? You know, every time I think about that record,
Speaker 1: I think about the year and we brought you to
Speaker 1: do the show in Miami, your first, your first solo show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I played that record at the club. Listen in Virginia,
Speaker 1: they don't play no other version but that one. That's
Speaker 1: the one. That's the only one in Virginia. Niggas, no
Speaker 1: like shout to Aliyah rest in peace in last you
Speaker 1: know artists. I met her to Timbo super Sweet, special
Speaker 1: girl and she's from she's from Detroit. She was from Detroit.
Speaker 1: That was the first project that Tim and Missy got
Speaker 1: on their own, like you'll do this Aliyah album and
Speaker 1: then they get you love you Babe, bab ships schools.
Speaker 1: That's good. So relationship with Jazz and Jeff uh really,
Speaker 1: what the hell? Well? I told with him for thirteen years. Um,
Speaker 1: I was his MC right. I made it so the
Speaker 1: only nigger that could come get the microphone for me
Speaker 1: while he was DJ was Will. That's it. It ain't
Speaker 1: no other nigga coming up me. And that nigga was
Speaker 1: so tight. I knew when he was gonna play before
Speaker 1: he played. I tip my hats on my respect and
Speaker 1: my love him. I'm told I filled up two passports
Speaker 1: with that nick. I'm on my third ports passport now
Speaker 1: two of us because the yes everywhere in the world
Speaker 1: because that nig Like I told you earlier, I started
Speaker 1: dating est Dean, I moved to l A. I tell
Speaker 1: the nigga yo, Um, I'm gonna fall back from mc
Speaker 1: N because I'm out in l A now like I'm working,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna I'm getting back into my song ready Ship.
Speaker 1: I wrote the nick becoming Yes Right. I tell him
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a chill because what I'm what I'm
Speaker 1: making with you, I feel like I can you know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just fall back. I'm gonna focus on song
Speaker 1: ration ship. I quit and the nigga never said nothing
Speaker 1: to me ever again. And I start DJ, and I
Speaker 1: started DJ, and I started getting better, and he starts
Speaker 1: having these DJ retreats at his crib guru there quest
Speaker 1: love DJ scratch like a call. I'm trying to get
Speaker 1: them invite I never got never. I never got invited never.
Speaker 1: And I started DJ, and we never spoke again. And
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened. I don't know that. This
Speaker 1: is not in my notes, by the way, I don't
Speaker 1: know this question. This weird. I thought this a little
Speaker 1: game after me, had another MC after me, but we
Speaker 1: never spoke again. I've still haven't spoken to him seven
Speaker 1: eight years. And I don't know why you quit. You
Speaker 1: do know why? Yeah, but that shouldn't hear. So the
Speaker 1: thing is this, I started DJ. You know all called
Speaker 1: the sad, petty gay, But my thing is this you DJ?
Speaker 1: I think it is this. I'm a I'm a I'm
Speaker 1: a dope DJ. I started DJ, and I started doing
Speaker 1: my thing but what you left. But but you want
Speaker 1: do you know who you are? You the greatest hip
Speaker 1: hop DJ? Ever, it can't be because you think he's
Speaker 1: looking at his competition and how can he has the
Speaker 1: first hip hop brand? No, you can never ever be
Speaker 1: in competition. He was heels just I started I started DJ.
Speaker 1: We all started DJ, and you started DJ, and he
Speaker 1: just started paying me and did like I told you earlier,
Speaker 1: I started trying to get better than not not good,
Speaker 1: and I was just like, damn. But it's not already spoken.
Speaker 1: I hadn't spoken to him. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1: I love him and it is what it is, but
Speaker 1: we don't speak. That's weird, man, that's not in my notice.
Speaker 1: That's a little awkward. I'm sure he's that he influenced you.
Speaker 1: I learned the same thing you learned from the nigger.
Speaker 1: I learned the same thing now. But we wasn't on
Speaker 1: tour with him day. But at the same time, Yeah,
Speaker 1: did you take something from him? Did you take Peter Piper?
Speaker 1: Peter Piper with team? Did you do Peter Piper? We
Speaker 1: all got everything you never did not then look, I
Speaker 1: can do the Peter Piper. See I can never do
Speaker 1: it as ill as head. I definitely didn't rock you
Speaker 1: have because I say, Arris want k v A. I
Speaker 1: didn't rock the belt, but everybody's done to rock the belt.
Speaker 1: It might have been a little different because it was me,
Speaker 1: but my fingers bro when it came down to me
Speaker 1: on that. In the terms tables, I funked with the
Speaker 1: B Junkies. I funk with DJ Manuel, I funk with
Speaker 1: d J Lonnie B. I funk with d J B
Speaker 1: out of v A. Those are the niggas that taught
Speaker 1: me this anything I learned from him as a DJ,
Speaker 1: the same thing, y'all nigga's learned. You watch them, we
Speaker 1: watch the videos that in the third I don't know
Speaker 1: why we don't talk. I'm sucking up right now. I
Speaker 1: love you, nigga. That's what you want to talk to
Speaker 1: this this this is camera right here, Jetty. But I
Speaker 1: love you, my nigga, Thank you for everything. It's like,
Speaker 1: let's Jones mbra carry just Jack because no, no, that's
Speaker 1: a good look. We don't mind carry Yeah, do my
Speaker 1: name on it. I don't know. I can't find the record. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but let's see. You know you got whatever you want
Speaker 1: with she she gotta come tell the story once. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we need we got to drink. I tell you, we
Speaker 1: tell them dropped out about you choosing to um to
Speaker 1: get a cor verse instead of she was gonna give
Speaker 1: me some bread to get on the remix and then
Speaker 1: you take you took the chorus with the pun. You
Speaker 1: gotta relax. Yeah, that was the time. Hold on, I
Speaker 1: was like saying, I tried to got that. I got story,
Speaker 1: I got the story we could tell. We can tell
Speaker 1: the actual story. That's scrap, that's time. That's great, it's
Speaker 1: a dope story. Now. I actually was like the first
Speaker 1: black man that actually had land on thirty second and
Speaker 1: Madison the hood lab prittily, So let's put it in
Speaker 1: that bad can I can I put it in pus
Speaker 1: back then? You please? Scrabo just made a shot. Yeah
Speaker 1: yeahs basically, yeah, you're gonna wire here. What are you doing? Like?
Speaker 1: It looks sis but come on, I think it looks
Speaker 1: storm for the chip. Yeah come on you let me
Speaker 1: do remember all of you. I'm trying to remember playing
Speaker 1: right now. You're shot. Tell your story, the story, the story,
Speaker 1: rewind it and you had property on thirty six and
Speaker 1: Matty second thirty second boom so boom. I was engineering,
Speaker 1: producing for Norrie coming through every day. He was nor
Speaker 1: was the tite to jump on the socket every morning
Speaker 1: to like twelve or fifteen people your way y'are at
Speaker 1: and talking about a lot of how to squad that
Speaker 1: I was done and the socking. So I was the
Speaker 1: one to press the buttons. But he only press the
Speaker 1: buns like once in the day. The rest of the
Speaker 1: day was just drinking pino and bullshit it. But if
Speaker 1: it was a moment of record, you know, he jumped
Speaker 1: into it one taking and then go back to chilling.
Speaker 1: You know what, you know, we have to fix it.
Speaker 1: I picked up. So that's where that's what he just
Speaker 1: dropped all maconto and the and the rock rock lit
Speaker 1: familiar blew up. That's when that's when the reggaetone two
Speaker 1: thousand or six. I think there was one build number
Speaker 1: one record in the building. Can we talk about about
Speaker 1: take them turning down today? Shout to nature for actually
Speaker 1: bringing me through to you first. Come on, let's get
Speaker 1: some more shots going on about my mother ship off
Speaker 1: my hoodie. What are you gonna do? I'm taking another peoples,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna yeah, I'm gonna follow him one bathroom. We'll
Speaker 1: do it. We'll do it. How long do you mind me?
Speaker 1: By the way, I'll lead them off. Okay, so all right,
Speaker 1: the studio, all right, so bas the league. I stopped
Speaker 1: becoming regular at your hood quote hood Lab, even though
Speaker 1: it's on Madison, six empty rooms, only one room with
Speaker 1: the computer them like the rest is mice running around
Speaker 1: and the work that we don't wear bubbles like like
Speaker 1: there's no heed. It's just like a foul situation. But
Speaker 1: it's over the chest. But yeah, yeah, so that's it,
Speaker 1: like you know, as an upper coming producer DJ, obviously
Speaker 1: it's not it's not it's not what you knows who
Speaker 1: you know. It's about beating the right place. So I
Speaker 1: already knew if I'm gonna planting myself there, nor you know,
Speaker 1: everybody everybody showing up boom boom networking. And then when
Speaker 1: he got signed a rock life familiar Dame Dash surprising
Speaker 1: but bringing the ride to the Hood Lab. So when
Speaker 1: she showed up, I was ready in front of the
Speaker 1: boards and everybody was on the DVD color exactly critically
Speaker 1: now that's the fact, But everybody was contracting the DVD
Speaker 1: because I was DVD, so you was talking to DVD
Speaker 1: try to get his footage, and I'm sitting there like, ship,
Speaker 1: I should play some beats in the background. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Small By the fifth beat, She's like,
Speaker 1: what's that? And then after that, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: do the pass off? And then she she picked something
Speaker 1: but let's study. Yeah, this was you know, I had
Speaker 1: searched for studios. What happened was I started to notice
Speaker 1: that I was losing money when I put a studio
Speaker 1: in Queens, because Queens is either it's in a nice part,
Speaker 1: but to get to that nice part, you gotta go
Speaker 1: do something crazy. Jersey just seemed too far to people.
Speaker 1: I finally got the perfect location thirty second at Baptist.
Speaker 1: The person who was renting it to me at the
Speaker 1: time one of like the whole year's rent up front.
Speaker 1: I think it was like sixty the first year. So
Speaker 1: he wanted all off. No, no, it's not for the
Speaker 1: whole year. I thought. He wanted like six a month.
Speaker 1: Damn man, the whole east for the for the whole year.
Speaker 1: He wanted six thousand fours each month changed and I
Speaker 1: was just like, you know what, I'm not I'm gonna
Speaker 1: put the money into the rig and not the equipment.
Speaker 1: So we really didn't even have equipment. Shout. Can I
Speaker 1: give a shout out to somebody? Can I just say
Speaker 1: one name? Shout the chin. Okay, shout in the chin man.
Speaker 1: So this is like provided the equipment. But then he
Speaker 1: got a third made for the whole year. I got
Speaker 1: illustrious property a thirty second, but when you went in,
Speaker 1: it was not so illustrious. No, it's illustrious outside decorations
Speaker 1: because because crazy, because we have to sleep there a
Speaker 1: couple of times. Thank you very much. I appreciate it
Speaker 1: back there since I got this ill fucking students like,
Speaker 1: everyone's gonna come in to give the address. So what
Speaker 1: happens is right, carry wants to hang out. They das
Speaker 1: he said, goes because she lives a block away, literally
Speaker 1: a block away, but I think it actually walked over wow,
Speaker 1: and she go up to the that and I could
Speaker 1: not believe how she was about. I didn't know who wants.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's more bride, but I didn't know how
Speaker 1: much like hood nig Is turned into groupies. Like all
Speaker 1: the time I was bucked up and he was alreadypies groupies,
Speaker 1: groupies called loopies. No, dude, that the battery already because
Speaker 1: he was drinking that peanut with This is what crack Meau.
Speaker 1: She's sitting there chilling and I'm like, yo, you drink
Speaker 1: peanut green and she's like, yeah, listen, I had to
Speaker 1: just don't happen. I had a fidgerated peanut gree Let
Speaker 1: me tell you more. Every morning put on pots, get
Speaker 1: to is this is our third day having the hood
Speaker 1: of that thirty second of man between thirty second and
Speaker 1: thirty person of Madison. It's a luxurious problem. I did
Speaker 1: not order the furn of you yet. I'm your first
Speaker 1: never did remember, Yeah, you're from left Rand and Property.
Speaker 1: And Mariah walks in and she wants to sit down
Speaker 1: and she could sit down on creak, but yeah, I
Speaker 1: was getting I would saying Barriss the same time, like
Speaker 1: not having to me. He was like, this is kind
Speaker 1: of fucked up on the part of he was like
Speaker 1: my shop was on the ground by the way, and
Speaker 1: I'm YouTube, like I said once people is just the
Speaker 1: penot grigio. She just she dranks. She ran around the
Speaker 1: students drop. You had Mariah sitting on the milk crap.
Speaker 1: But hold on, let me finish the story about that
Speaker 1: feature because I don't know what did you even record
Speaker 1: to it? Yeah? Alright, so boom, so let me just
Speaker 1: tell you much. I remember you're calling me and you're
Speaker 1: like yo yo, Marian. You called me like four in
Speaker 1: the morning, You're like yo. Ryan just says, she got
Speaker 1: like fifty racts for me to do the remix, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pass on it, and I'm gonna tell her
Speaker 1: I need a hook for this joint. I got a
Speaker 1: pun to a Greenland up beat. So you remember he
Speaker 1: was like, I'm the hook from her. I said, that's
Speaker 1: all you want to pass the fifty bands I get?
Speaker 1: And then that record? Did that record? Ain't it never
Speaker 1: came out? This one runs, I don't never came out. No,
Speaker 1: so that he got a hook from her, but it
Speaker 1: was on. It was the punt The punt verse was sensitive.
Speaker 1: So it then come out. I had a punt Verse,
Speaker 1: had an unreleased punt verse, and me and me and
Speaker 1: Punt had a song called friends all right, and we
Speaker 1: jacked the friendship. But yeah, so we knew we couldn't
Speaker 1: do that. And so when Marian came and did that.
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, let me just and
Speaker 1: she's listed, so we had gave it the original being
Speaker 1: they said, come ask baby, rest in peace, Ecstacy from WHOA.
Speaker 1: Bottom line, that's some more ran carry big, upset and carry.
Speaker 1: But what happened to that verse? Though? I have no
Speaker 1: idea you have to do because I never even heard
Speaker 1: your verse they promoted it. I just kept googling it
Speaker 1: and kept coming up like Marian and it just came
Speaker 1: up with Joel's and camp because they jacked that. They
Speaker 1: did like a mixtape version of it, and she ran
Speaker 1: with that. And you know what, I'm grateful for that.
Speaker 1: I grateful for that Moment's just us knowing like this
Speaker 1: is at the end of day. This is the hood,
Speaker 1: dudes opening up for three days, and you got one
Speaker 1: of the most biggest stuff. That's the reason why I
Speaker 1: never really changed her lab. I never really did that.
Speaker 1: Granted you listen, I had Evie Queen coming to Evie
Speaker 1: Queen whatever you a. I'm so sorry we need her
Speaker 1: on drink chances. I'm so sorry she came into the
Speaker 1: hood lad and she took up her shoes and I
Speaker 1: wanted to tell our maid is fired forever please put
Speaker 1: your shoes back on. This is not the place to
Speaker 1: take your shoes. But I could. Evie Queen was so gast.
Speaker 1: I was just like, you don't care. Everywhere she went like, oh,
Speaker 1: like I know we had Mike. He mentioned that earlier.
Speaker 1: You guys had a lot of things that I stopped that.
Speaker 1: I think that ghost in that motherfucker and I got
Speaker 1: stuck on on the elevator, petty cracking couple. Elevator was elevated,
Speaker 1: spect it wasn't right down the street. That's all I
Speaker 1: made that Miami things are going to this couple. That's
Speaker 1: how we need, you know, white caps. Y'all like Miami
Speaker 1: subs to New York posts. That's sucking phenomenal to New
Speaker 1: York people, but y'all hate it. And that's that's how
Speaker 1: we are enjoy It's a part of my people. Gotta dope.
Speaker 1: We we go left hand, we right listen. This is
Speaker 1: we're gonna end this out because you still got a
Speaker 1: shot from last time. Oh ship, you know you gotta
Speaker 1: skill you one more because what we're taking a shot
Speaker 1: minster is already done. I gotta feel up. Hold on,
Speaker 1: that's y'all last year shot. But what's all I gotta say,
Speaker 1: is on our show. We want like to pick up
Speaker 1: all legends, um other genres of music. It's not even
Speaker 1: a word called washed up. Okay, bus up, bus you
Speaker 1: got lied. You gotta put it. You gotta put bus on.
Speaker 1: Speaking your bust, the bus were here, drink chance of masks?
Speaker 1: What's going on? I get you what I'm done, Bro,
Speaker 1: I got you, I got your man. You out all
Speaker 1: right now? I keep that sitting there. What's the rounds
Speaker 1: called during the Mad Skills episode call let you know
Speaker 1: my phone is hot. Goddamn. But we want to pick
Speaker 1: you up because in our game, and when I'm looking
Speaker 1: at like these other genmas of music, like jazz and
Speaker 1: all those other things, there's no word called washed up.
Speaker 1: There's no word called like you've been here too long,
Speaker 1: Like I see these rock and roll people they talked
Speaker 1: thirty years in this game, and everyone chares the more
Speaker 1: so I along with my partner. Yeah, we want to
Speaker 1: change the narrative of that. We want to let people
Speaker 1: know that, you know, Champaigne is hazed your mind. Real
Speaker 1: ships age two eight seven don't carryall. There's certain years
Speaker 1: of a certain page that this is great one the
Speaker 1: same ship And the thing is, I want to change
Speaker 1: the narrative for our culture. I want people to know that.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like you said earlier, like you know
Speaker 1: y'are borrowing the car. Yeah, y'all got the car, and
Speaker 1: we ain't mad we gave you at the car. But
Speaker 1: take care of you. Just take care of it. Get
Speaker 1: your transmission, your mouth, Like right now, I don't even
Speaker 1: got to oil change my old car because if I'm
Speaker 1: sucking up, because because if you don't take care of it,
Speaker 1: and they take care of you, yellow engine, like cut
Speaker 1: it off soon as I cut the car. Just all
Speaker 1: remember what would be without the cars, without hip hop, bro, exactly,
Speaker 1: that's what we really need to we We fucking we
Speaker 1: come from a special music man that has changed the world.
Speaker 1: Most popular art form in the in the world, the world,
Speaker 1: the world, the world. I'm saying, like it is what
Speaker 1: it is like these corporations and these businesses, they know
Speaker 1: what we bring to the table. Man, hip hop has
Speaker 1: changed the fucking world. So with that being said, you know,
Speaker 1: we just got to cultivate it. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: White grape on you, white grape you ever wrapped up
Speaker 1: a scrap Jones? But I remember I used to call
Speaker 1: him like, no, no, no, first of all, no, no,
Speaker 1: first of all, this nig did a song. This this
Speaker 1: guy did a song called We's got into the song
Speaker 1: called Forking the Road, and I remember hearing it and
Speaker 1: it was most amazing. Ship that I say, he's gonna
Speaker 1: call you called him and I remember calling him and
Speaker 1: at this point in his life, he told me he
Speaker 1: was like Scott, wasn't sure if I was gonna DJ,
Speaker 1: if I was gonna wrap some dudes. I called him
Speaker 1: and I said, Yo, I hit him on the d M.
Speaker 1: I said, yo, Twitter, I said, yo, fam, you better
Speaker 1: than Kanye? You you are? You? Did I tell you that?
Speaker 1: I did? I not tell you that. He put the back.
Speaker 1: I said, you keep doing your Ship. Never met him
Speaker 1: a day of my life. I might have seen him
Speaker 1: beginning to do over maybe a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: but we never met. But I've always been a super
Speaker 1: I've always been a fan of him. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like producers beats, I wouldn't even happen, you know,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't need rapping songs in my mixes. Like my
Speaker 1: thing is whatever I'm doing. If I stop with you,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put your ship into what I'm doing. I'm saying,
Speaker 1: if I do a podcast, I'm gonna drop your name
Speaker 1: on my podcast. If I'm doing the mix, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: play your song in my mix. I did a ship
Speaker 1: in plenty of times, and he played my ship early,
Speaker 1: like back back. What I'm saying non factor big b
Speaker 1: days like fan man that take address that I'm fucked
Speaker 1: up to himself. Drink, I'm so gonna got a beatbox
Speaker 1: outside drink. We saw on the side this ship crazy.
Speaker 1: We're twenty drink minimum, So let me get over her.
Speaker 1: Tell me about that, because that's after I Ain't Man
Speaker 1: and I got I asked about the albums in the
Speaker 1: beginning about it I Ain't Man no More, and competition
Speaker 1: of the Goes writing was the Rockings album, which was
Speaker 1: the same album I was on tour with Nerds in
Speaker 1: two thousand two. I started selling them ships out there,
Speaker 1: out there at the shows and finished the show you know,
Speaker 1: meet me at the merged. Move from selling CDs and
Speaker 1: Matt Skills T shirts. I sold probably more than ships
Speaker 1: than rockers, so I was moving them because I knew
Speaker 1: rockers out of business. So I'm like, no, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: sell my music. My ship only came out. It only
Speaker 1: came out, and like it came out real quickly, and
Speaker 1: they didn't press up no more CD. So I pressed
Speaker 1: up CDs on my own, like a mixtape, show them
Speaker 1: ships and a million dollar backpack. Who was in a
Speaker 1: million dollar back million hours? I don't really know, I
Speaker 1: don't That was. That was the one after after Gym
Speaker 1: got a popping Shadow Stokes. I'm saying the saw on
Speaker 1: the Graham those my niggas. Um. That was when I
Speaker 1: did the song with Common Freeway Black Thought who else
Speaker 1: ahead on the album Tyler Quality. Um, that's the first
Speaker 1: time I did a song for women and realized, like
Speaker 1: I've gone back when the O G said, Yo, make
Speaker 1: songs with who you think? I made a song called
Speaker 1: heat on Me for real. Women loved it. I feel
Speaker 1: like l for fanteen minutes. She was amazing, loved it. Yes, Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm a cute nigga. Sometimes the weekend niking something that
Speaker 1: it depends something, No, depends. When I got there, James
Speaker 1: Pony killing them differences so anxious him and Tim was
Speaker 1: getting big. I was the rapper, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: When I popped in it was Pete Barba Swalks, Mrs
Speaker 1: j uh and then Missy had this artist from from
Speaker 1: my hood name what was her name? Mocha Nicole Ray
Speaker 1: brother name Kenney shouted to Kenny Um, we was doing
Speaker 1: songs together. But I never oh no, I never hopped
Speaker 1: on the genuine joint. Wasn't wasn't no beating get on
Speaker 1: the poem. He wasn't like that hop the remixed and
Speaker 1: that was that was what took us questions good, you
Speaker 1: do a lot of you do a lot of lives
Speaker 1: streaming for the ladies. You do like brunches, and like,
Speaker 1: ever got some buns off of that? I haven't got
Speaker 1: no buns yet off of the stream that I knew
Speaker 1: every weekend nineties girl brunts. But it's a it's a
Speaker 1: community of women, people that have gravitated and people start
Speaker 1: it was Dope the DJ, and people started supporting each other, like, yo,
Speaker 1: your your daughter cell. Girls got cookies, I'm goa boy
Speaker 1: something from her. You do a fitness class, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take your fitness. Like dope community built the whole community
Speaker 1: when when the quarantine and niggas couldn't really go out,
Speaker 1: no buds. The world needs More Skills one of my
Speaker 1: favorite albums. Uh. I wrote the song called Celebrate Life.
Speaker 1: That was for Ross. I don't even know if Ross
Speaker 1: ever heard it. But if you hear, if you hit
Speaker 1: the song now, can't you can't see you? What do
Speaker 1: you mean? I mean it was more than one Ross
Speaker 1: in the world. The way you made that you just
Speaker 1: just no, no no for the the hook. I was
Speaker 1: trying to be Rose. I don't know if he ever
Speaker 1: heard it, but it was for him, but I ended
Speaker 1: up keeping it from myself. Um. Craziest song called Celebrate Life.
Speaker 1: Shot the video in in Vegas when I was on
Speaker 1: Told with Jeff. Shot the video on Vegas with my
Speaker 1: man Christopher Schaefer. Ship costs like four hundred dollars. Ship
Speaker 1: looked like a fucking he doesn't know why he doesn't
Speaker 1: speak the job. Jeff no more no no, I was
Speaker 1: here guy. Yeah. Uh it last it last album. Um.
Speaker 1: I love the songs and it just made sense to
Speaker 1: making at the time. Okay, Thoughts Become Things that was
Speaker 1: supposed to be my last album. It was not. It
Speaker 1: was not Thoughts Become Things was more so me saying
Speaker 1: this is this is my black album. I want some
Speaker 1: whole ship my mouth after this did it? She was dope.
Speaker 1: I put it out myself. Um. One of the crazy
Speaker 1: things about the album is as a kid, I'm on
Speaker 1: the cover of the album sitting on the floor watching
Speaker 1: Run DMC on TV Fluence first niggas that made me
Speaker 1: want to get into the game. My didis suck MC
Speaker 1: changed my life. Yeah, I'm saying, Um, Run and d
Speaker 1: had to be the coolest niggers in the world. One
Speaker 1: time I wanted to beat the ship out of Run,
Speaker 1: but that's a whole story. And rever Run did me
Speaker 1: so dirty one time. You're gonna have to say it.
Speaker 1: Can't tell you that you people on the buffet, we
Speaker 1: need thirteen years old. I'm in favor of North Carolina.
Speaker 1: I mean, run DMC at a record store. I wait
Speaker 1: all day, Right, DMC, show up pictures on my grand niggas,
Speaker 1: Run DMC, show up, Run d J Amazing. I'm in
Speaker 1: the breakdance group with my cousin and his sister Ship
Speaker 1: crazy me. Run DMC take a picture twenty at ten whatever.
Speaker 1: Years later, I'm on raucous high the Mighty and I
Speaker 1: saw the most death called b boy document ships Popper.
Speaker 1: Remember when Cool used to do those those cigarette parties
Speaker 1: where they had to they had to have a party
Speaker 1: to every they would have a comedian, they would have
Speaker 1: a comedian, rap artists, a fucking graffiti. They it. I'm
Speaker 1: on the shiet the most Death High. The Mighty Rue
Speaker 1: DFC is closing out the build Virginia Beach. I'm down
Speaker 1: in with for Reldon from I came to them telling
Speaker 1: the story. I see this nigga run on the side
Speaker 1: of the stage. I walk up to the nigga, I said, Yo,
Speaker 1: my nigga, my name Mad Skills. I met you when
Speaker 1: I was thirteen years on Favored, North Carolina. I love you, man,
Speaker 1: like listen, you changed my life. I'm a rapper. I'm
Speaker 1: the field. This field is too long, I said, yo.
Speaker 1: I said, I just got this thing. I just like
Speaker 1: shaking wrap his hands with with the hands that I
Speaker 1: write my proms with. My nigga, thank you so much,
Speaker 1: And they tap me on the shoulder. Nig said, that's
Speaker 1: what something like, I'm like this. He left you. I said,
Speaker 1: oh right, he was. He was a dick at of
Speaker 1: eighty five when I met him. But the house thirteen
Speaker 1: didn't matter. It was running first. Can you forget it?
Speaker 1: The same second time I met him. I shock, he's
Speaker 1: the reverend. They ain't shake it fast fool, you're showing
Speaker 1: not a German phone of the funk, all that fast fools.
Speaker 1: Black Thought calls me say, yo, I need you to
Speaker 1: help me. Come to in New York. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: come to New York and do this. Help me out
Speaker 1: on the handems we're doing the show for super When
Speaker 1: the super Bowl was in New York, I said, I
Speaker 1: bet he said, Yo. They called me, they fly me in.
Speaker 1: I got I brought a brand new five D camera.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I got my five D camera. All
Speaker 1: my hip hop legends are perform the right. Pete Rock,
Speaker 1: Cel I don't know that they're not cool. I don't care.
Speaker 1: Dayl So still cool, nor anybody nature they be No No,
Speaker 1: Vinnie Vinnie and trucks like that. You don't know that
Speaker 1: day not cool. Super Bowl It listen to the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl The Roots Present hip Hop featuring Run DMC featuring
Speaker 1: Pete Rock and Cel Smooth featuring Douggie Fresh as Slick
Speaker 1: Rick featuring Daylight Soul and featuring Jim Joney. How to
Speaker 1: get to New York because the Super bowls in New
Speaker 1: York it's freezing fucking I get to the vine, get good, good,
Speaker 1: I get to the venue. It's everybody's backstage. Ship's crazy,
Speaker 1: Ship's super wild, right, I'm liker bet I see ed Love,
Speaker 1: I see I s T Coco. It's it's it's this,
Speaker 1: I see fucking ed Love. This ship is New York
Speaker 1: and this essays freezing outside. They got some sins the same.
Speaker 1: The third all my hip hop heros Or performed. Douggy
Speaker 1: Fresh performs with Slick Rick. They do the fucking show.
Speaker 1: I'm bucking. Daly I Sold performs, They Still Cool, Pete Rocket,
Speaker 1: Cel Smooth perform, Villian tracks, and KG performed Ship's Crazy Run.
Speaker 1: DMZ performs I'm like, no, nigga, I'm going in the
Speaker 1: front with my camp. I gotta get this ship. He
Speaker 1: shitting on. I'm like, Nigga, I gotta get this ship. Nigga.
Speaker 1: I go to the front. D Nice with me, Deep
Speaker 1: Nice sitting next to me because he this is when
Speaker 1: he earned it with the term sho s D Knix.
Speaker 1: We sitting in the paparazzi pit backtrack. I'm backstage. Or
Speaker 1: DJ walks up to me, said, Yo, my nigga, I'm
Speaker 1: a fan. My nigga. I used to bang your ship
Speaker 1: in college. My name is Charlie chan I DJ for
Speaker 1: d M d MC. I said, that's just up appreciated
Speaker 1: my nigga. The ground was new. Twitter was popping, the
Speaker 1: brand was new. Nigga takes a picture with me a
Speaker 1: me you posted to the ground. I'm like, oh, she
Speaker 1: just need a really a fan da, that's the dope.
Speaker 1: Fast forward, I'm in the I'm in the pit watching bread.
Speaker 1: DMC performed film with Muhammad. Nigga got done, they got
Speaker 1: two d J jam mssing day, God bless your dad.
Speaker 1: J MR Dad passed away. D J rukis is with
Speaker 1: run d J Charlie shand then they got took a
Speaker 1: picture with earlier. It's with DMC. I'm in the crowd
Speaker 1: performing watching the ship, got my candy reforming. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm in the crowd. Fuck up. Maybe it's the brother crowd.
Speaker 1: I'm in the crowd with my five d can right
Speaker 1: the crowd run filming ring DMC. These niggas hard time
Speaker 1: walk this way this that In the third the nigga
Speaker 1: d MS. The nigga run takes his motherfucking hat off
Speaker 1: and says Joe who's the biggest run DMC fan and
Speaker 1: this motherfucker to night this corporate, it's the roots, it's
Speaker 1: bud Wis, it's corporate. I'm like, has d taste it
Speaker 1: off and the door. I'm gonna get this hat to
Speaker 1: the biggest run DMC fans back. I'm like nigga, I'm looking.
Speaker 1: I've been on my I've been on my ship. I
Speaker 1: got a twelve and signed by met the Man Red Man.
Speaker 1: I got an ill maddic CAUSEPT that I bought off
Speaker 1: Hunting twenty five signed by nine. I'm on my ship
Speaker 1: setting this by he got he got hit, gotta setting
Speaker 1: list by Trump call quite signed by all four members.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna add this hat to my ship. I'm looking
Speaker 1: at this ship like Yo, this nigga. This nigga says, Yo,
Speaker 1: give me something, give me a silver shot. Somebody give
Speaker 1: me a silver shot. They bringing my shop. He nigga
Speaker 1: signs the hat. I'm watching this ship like nigga. If
Speaker 1: I get that fucking hat, get it happy. DMC Yo
Speaker 1: did signed the ship. Man sign the ship. D DNC
Speaker 1: signs the hat. I'm like nigga, when I put I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't please just sing this shot for you, Jo,
Speaker 1: who got who got that? Nigga? So this is a
Speaker 1: bill up. I'm gon who got If I get that
Speaker 1: fucking hat, I'm out the I'm out the game. This
Speaker 1: is the route Late Night with him fallis not the
Speaker 1: tonight show. Yet they're doing the they jay Leno still on.
Speaker 1: They're doing the ship after jay Leno Dame moved up.
Speaker 1: Yet the routes. Black Thought called me say, I need
Speaker 1: you to come down with these ad lite blah bo
Speaker 1: I do it run DMCs before run sign the hat,
Speaker 1: D sign the hat. He like, YO did some rock
Speaker 1: and roll Hall of Fame ship. Who is the biggest
Speaker 1: run DMC family here tonight? I'm seeing it going. I'm
Speaker 1: a thirteen year old kid in Fairville, North Carolina. I
Speaker 1: need that hat. I look at the DJ who took
Speaker 1: a picture with me for the Graham earlier. I say,
Speaker 1: yo family. Nigga says it's because the DJ go Charlie said,
Speaker 1: he goes, I got you skills mouse it to me.
Speaker 1: He don't say it. No, my he mouthed to me.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, nigga, man, run walking back and forth
Speaker 1: and stage with the happen. Who is the biggest run
Speaker 1: DMC fan in here tonight, Charlie Chad tapped the mike, Yo,
Speaker 1: run you're gonna up my nigga. Yo. I think I
Speaker 1: know who the biggest run DMC fan is. Yo. Who
Speaker 1: that Yo? It's my man Mad Skills right there in
Speaker 1: the front row. That's the biggest run DMC fan. I said,
Speaker 1: Oh ship, the nigga goes. I know you ain't get
Speaker 1: it right there. The nigg don't know who I am.
Speaker 1: I'm not expecting no I am. Nigga. Run goes who
Speaker 1: he said. He says it again, Yo, my nigga Mad
Speaker 1: Skills in the front row, black hat right there. That's
Speaker 1: the biggest RUNC fan. I know my nigga. The nigga goes,
Speaker 1: run goes and the nigga ain't no fan of nigga working.
Speaker 1: Like I said, biggest one. What I listen, I gonna
Speaker 1: yeah you hit d Nice and all of the Poplar
Speaker 1: riz Yo d Knights, all the poplar Rizzi go. I
Speaker 1: put the I put the kaplins on the on the
Speaker 1: on the camera. I closed the camera cart the camera.
Speaker 1: I walked back to the side of the stage. They're
Speaker 1: like yo. I walked up to the side of the stage.
Speaker 1: I got my past. I'm on the side of the stage.
Speaker 1: We get him. See performing there, I'm pacing back and
Speaker 1: forth his kids. His kids are right in front of me.
Speaker 1: Jeff Daylick soul. But fucking see how smooth I'm pasting.
Speaker 1: They're like like Yo, I said, Yo, I'm pacing. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm smacking ship out of him. Nigga, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: know Rod Rod Nigga. Niggas don't even see I'm pacing
Speaker 1: niggas like Jazzy. Jeff goes Yo, skills you good. I said, Yo,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna smacking ship out there, nigga. Bro. Niggas like no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no. I said, no, Bro, he hadn't do that. Bro.
Speaker 1: He said, you're working. He said they they don't working.
Speaker 1: But what mean they looking? They because I had a
Speaker 1: ca I remember he goes skills you good. I said, Yo,
Speaker 1: I want this. I want his kids to hear me.
Speaker 1: I said, when I see that nigga, I'm gonna snack
Speaker 1: the ship. Black story. Black boy sees me goes, Yo,
Speaker 1: You're good. I said, not Bro, fun that nigga. Bro.
Speaker 1: I'm trying. I'm trying to be loud. I wanted niggas
Speaker 1: to hit me. You're like raw raw, Like yeah. Now,
Speaker 1: Black Thought comes over to me, said, skills, what are
Speaker 1: you doing? I said, Reek because I called him to Reek.
Speaker 1: I said, Reek, I'm gonna smack ship out that nigga
Speaker 1: when he come off stage. Bro, he's the skills. You
Speaker 1: can't do that. I said, why the funk not Bro?
Speaker 1: He said, the skills core? Bro, this my shirt. I said,
Speaker 1: funk that Reek. That nigga, Yo, that's the third time
Speaker 1: I nigga to play. You know he skill this Nigga
Speaker 1: reached on to talk to him. Me. He never sing.
Speaker 1: I know Black Thought twenty years, he never seen me
Speaker 1: act like this, and they're like, Yo, skills, I'm not
Speaker 1: some words for you. I said, what, he's a nigga,
Speaker 1: NBC Jimmy Fallon digga. But like meanwhile, a white bits
Speaker 1: got the hat. You don't even know what the run
Speaker 1: dmc me. He said, skills, you can't do that. I said, Bro,
Speaker 1: when I see when run finishes, weren't want to smack
Speaker 1: the ship out of him. Then he turns around like
Speaker 1: like Nigga, niggas ain't gonna smack He hurt you like
Speaker 1: I can't remember it was Da Jojo was one of them.
Speaker 1: Like Nick, Nick ain't gonna smacks my dad. I'm not
Speaker 1: getting what run coming like nigga. They took me off
Speaker 1: the stage, put me in a room in the back,
Speaker 1: had security with me and kept me there, and so
Speaker 1: run dmc got off the stage. I've never told the
Speaker 1: story in my life. I was gonna save it for
Speaker 1: the book. Every time I met and Queen's is the
Speaker 1: best burrow for rappings. But every time I met that
Speaker 1: nigga run from run dmc heat treat me like a
Speaker 1: piece of ship, and I almost beat his ass at
Speaker 1: the team fucking shot no right, I love you, but
Speaker 1: every time I met you, you treated me like ship.
Speaker 1: It changes the It changes the perspective of two years ago.
Speaker 1: A friend of my fucking like yo. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he was in a bad move. I think it's rooting.
Speaker 1: I run didn't see prospects. It's in a bad move.
Speaker 1: But every time I met him, every time I met him, Bro,
Speaker 1: he treated me bad and I never forgotten, to the
Speaker 1: point that I was almost ready to throw hands with him.
Speaker 1: And he probably has no clue, never knew, But damn, Bro,
Speaker 1: I was. I met you in our third team, and
Speaker 1: I loved you, and every time I met you, you
Speaker 1: treating me like ship you got people. Yeah, he just
Speaker 1: he just took the kick with that. But they say
Speaker 1: they say, never meet your hero roes Man because you
Speaker 1: never fleet your hair ros because they're gonna remix your
Speaker 1: whole deal with him. I probably got curved before by hero.
Speaker 1: I can't got curve about Noriega. Maybe I don't know
Speaker 1: the sacred thing, but not nor I see you curb
Speaker 1: a couple of niggas in v A cur I'm pretty
Speaker 1: curve balls. Yeah, a couple of niggas at the height
Speaker 1: of super thumb. Yeah, never last last more people go
Speaker 1: on me let me relaxt. No, you're not a couple
Speaker 1: of niggs. Yeah. I mean it's crazy man, one of
Speaker 1: the illiests. No, no, don't tell that story. No, no,
Speaker 1: I told mine. No, huh, I would say that was crazy.
Speaker 1: That's a great story. But you know we're gonna do.
Speaker 1: We're gonna bring guys together here. I'll drink Champs. I
Speaker 1: would love to just hug. He's gonna break is Jase
Speaker 1: gonna be jasse Jack? Give me jazz Ja. When you
Speaker 1: cooling yourself, I want you to give yourself the ball
Speaker 1: like it plops us. Y'all best friends. So when you
Speaker 1: google me, it comes up me and Jazz as best
Speaker 1: At first. I wish we were, but that's fat. Like
Speaker 1: I said, you call him right now, I'll speak. I
Speaker 1: think we should call j Jeff. Don't come on when
Speaker 1: you might, You're nothing. See how this works? Come on,
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, Para, now you want to let's see this.
Speaker 1: Jazz and Jack really a little jack jaw try bird Man.
Speaker 1: Let's just I would not call. I only got emails.
Speaker 1: Sorry email, I don't even know if I had him.
Speaker 1: Come on, let's see. Let's see that. You call him
Speaker 1: man call because we don't make sense. You gotta make
Speaker 1: sense of its trading places right now. You gotta help
Speaker 1: us out. I don't even know what's the next question.
Speaker 1: I got. The next one dogs me a couple of
Speaker 1: things we already were talking to about Dad, all right.
Speaker 1: The last one Aden Virginia. We're big listen, Big Dog
Speaker 1: one of the best down the phone, call M I
Speaker 1: don't have his number, Bing Dog. Let me see bing Dog. Uh.
Speaker 1: One of the best producers I've met in my life.
Speaker 1: And we made an album call Made in Virginia. And
Speaker 1: that nigga is amazing, and he don't get the credit.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that he should. But wait,
Speaker 1: I do have jazz jas number whole type. You don't
Speaker 1: get the credit that he should. But Devil in a
Speaker 1: new dress. You meet him and her that bake, No,
Speaker 1: that's bike, it's definitely party. Are you at? I was
Speaker 1: somewhere else. Think if I think about Jazzy Jess Champ Champs,
Speaker 1: that's Devils lights camera action. You meet him and her
Speaker 1: whole monster beans. And when they talk about the blue print,
Speaker 1: they always talk about just they always talk about yeah, good, yeah, biggest,
Speaker 1: that's my brother. The rule is back all I need
Speaker 1: all of that, Like the nigger is a fucking problem man.
Speaker 1: And that's what I heard. Hustler won not hunted Hustler
Speaker 1: like all of the name dog ship, I got love
Speaker 1: corrupt fucking like big yes a pause, yeah, oh pause,
Speaker 1: I understand. Put some respect on my brother's name, giving
Speaker 1: up a big dog a big tape real quick. And
Speaker 1: then were gonna get about here. And then we called
Speaker 1: Jase Jeff can wait for that ship. Let's see, let's
Speaker 1: put a face face the probably won't pick up faces
Speaker 1: respectfully I would pick a face ring. He might be black,
Speaker 1: I might be black. Let's let's say something. Appreciate something,
Speaker 1: appreciate we face something. Let's see with the cara. Let's
Speaker 1: go let Jazzy Jay Jasmin. Listen. Man, when we google masks,
Speaker 1: we see that two brothers was together on tour forever.
Speaker 1: You don't understand wh we don't see y'all together. I
Speaker 1: asked him this question. He couldn't answer the question. So
Speaker 1: we want to ask you. Okay, you gotta carry what's
Speaker 1: going on? I'm okay. And you wouldn't pick the phone
Speaker 1: if you didn't funk with them, because obviously would do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got that. We need to see y'all to go
Speaker 1: lookin skills huh, and you ain't like that? This is okay.
Speaker 1: Worried about any other man on this plan. But what
Speaker 1: I'm talking on the mic now, I think skills DJ
Speaker 1: and I'm ready to sign that podcast whatever it's called.
Speaker 1: This is SI DJ shops up, so we might had
Speaker 1: to do. I'm back to back set. Hello, letta other
Speaker 1: y'all tell y'all need to make that right each other.
Speaker 1: Let's say you did you see I listen, hey, bro,
Speaker 1: they asked me I didn't know what to tell us.
Speaker 1: I'm fucked, Jel. I'm about to cry, but I love
Speaker 1: you man. I love you, Bro, thank you, thank you
Speaker 1: for everything you did for me. Man, and I just
Speaker 1: want to say thank you. Man with skills with thirteen
Speaker 1: years understand that dys we circle the glues. Listen, Man, hey, Bro,
Speaker 1: I'm want drink chips and I love you many good chips.
Speaker 1: Huh are you drinking on Janzy Jel? I'm je you
Speaker 1: know I cadn't drink man a Man. I love you Man.
Speaker 1: I'll call you afterwards. Man. It's just good to see
Speaker 1: your face. Man, Absolutely all right. I love you many chance.
Speaker 1: That's a Jake chances out there. That's what the about
Speaker 1: it for one more, because it's got to be the
Speaker 1: last question, because this is too much. This is too much.
Speaker 1: Is so great. That was amazing when we walked there
Speaker 1: and we talked about some real ship and you said
Speaker 1: you gotta d backstory. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we gotta
Speaker 1: get that. This is absolutely last question. Yo, You're a
Speaker 1: great man. That was that was god. Listen. You're an
Speaker 1: amazing podcast host. Okayea make seven. He just helping the listen.
Speaker 1: That's a seven years. I'm trying to get because that's
Speaker 1: we need those chance for radio. We haven't spoken seven years.
Speaker 1: That that's what we need. That's what drinks is about,
Speaker 1: dreams about Give me a motherfucker another shot. I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't retreat next summer. That's a clue. Man, so bad.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. So DX story. So I'm in
Speaker 1: I'm in Virginia. We had this club called twenty four
Speaker 1: South Union, might have been called Flavors. Uhcram come on
Speaker 1: and d NX has a show. I'm opening up. You know, Nick,
Speaker 1: it's still throwing me a bag for opening up. Dn
Speaker 1: MIX comes up and this was before, right before he
Speaker 1: had he had a case. I don't want to bring
Speaker 1: us up, but I'm gonna have to because it makes
Speaker 1: sense of the story. Somebody say he raped him or
Speaker 1: whatever whatever. I think he ended up getting clear. But
Speaker 1: it was a girl was like yo, he took it.
Speaker 1: You know. The DNAX had a case. I go, I
Speaker 1: I did the show. I fucking go to the airport
Speaker 1: the next morning, me, my my baby, mom and my daughter.
Speaker 1: DNMEX is white hot at the tom He's fucking insane.
Speaker 1: This is the year he had two albums number one
Speaker 1: the same. I get to the Hope, I get to
Speaker 1: the airport, I get to the gate, fucking dnmex of
Speaker 1: the gate sill. I just opened up for him, so
Speaker 1: I know you know where I am. I'm like, yo, ex,
Speaker 1: what's up? Dog? What's good? I'm like, oh, ship, what's up?
Speaker 1: He's like, bro, kill that ship last night? Thank you?
Speaker 1: Like yo, you know what I mean? Like you're going
Speaker 1: to New York. I said, y'all got a meeting up
Speaker 1: at rockets or whatever wherever I'm going, Like yo, oh
Speaker 1: that's good, ship man, Like fun with your ship, my nigga,
Speaker 1: Like we get to that. We had the gate, we're
Speaker 1: sitting at showing. I don't want to crowd the nigga.
Speaker 1: He buyse up like him, a security guard, maybe a DJ.
Speaker 1: Fucking the plane gets canceled. They're like flights canceled to
Speaker 1: Jeff Kes, like Yo, the fucking calling. Motherfucker's yo, I
Speaker 1: need to be on the next thing, Like I'm about
Speaker 1: to do the ship. You know how to be on set?
Speaker 1: And they're like, yo, whatever whatever. This is Virginia Richmond,
Speaker 1: Virginia Airport. D Mix goes. I called my baby moms,
Speaker 1: like yo, come back and get me. The flight delayed
Speaker 1: to like five. Me and DN Mix of the airport
Speaker 1: leven am. I said, Yo, the flight delayed to five,
Speaker 1: Come back and get me. She's like, i'mbody getting on
Speaker 1: the high and say, yo, circle back, come get me.
Speaker 1: She got my daughter in the car. Fucking she comes back.
Speaker 1: She's like, I'm out fronts like yo, she's about to
Speaker 1: do I said, yo, man, my baby, My baby mom said,
Speaker 1: my mother just go fucking waste some time to fucking
Speaker 1: five PM. Y'alls. I'm a roll baby. Maybe mom at
Speaker 1: a Ford expedition. Baby mom had afforded by mom had
Speaker 1: a Ford expedition. My daughter is in the back seat
Speaker 1: in the child seats. She comes back around the loop.
Speaker 1: He tells us DJ or whoever, y'all, I'll be back.
Speaker 1: They're like, damn actually gonna like yo, good, I'm fun
Speaker 1: with skills. My baby Mom's comes around me and DX.
Speaker 1: I get into passenger seat D and Mex gets into
Speaker 1: the passenger seat beside my door. I know, yo, axcess,
Speaker 1: my baby mom, Yo, how you doing? Oh? It's Mix.
Speaker 1: He's like, Yo, how you doing. Love. She's like He's like,
Speaker 1: sock my daughter sitting there. My daughter. She's old enough,
Speaker 1: she's three maybe four. I said, yo, you hungry. He said, yeah,
Speaker 1: Let's get some new I'm like, I bet true story.
Speaker 1: We stopped at a KFC. We go to KFC. It
Speaker 1: wasn't need cantank you for a chicken because I don't
Speaker 1: even know if they was calling the ship chicken at
Speaker 1: this point. They no, just KFC, it's the Curtiner. We
Speaker 1: don't have Kennedy. We get to the fucking ME and
Speaker 1: DMX walk into the fucking KFC. I'm like, yo, let
Speaker 1: me get a twelve piece. The girl was standing there like, no,
Speaker 1: y'all Nick, She's looking at it. She looking at me.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, let me get a twelve piece. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, cold slaw, master potatoes and give
Speaker 1: me get some biscuits, candis and hot saw. She's like
Speaker 1: yeah sure. It's like, what do you have? Ex goes, yo,
Speaker 1: I want to get I want to get a piece.
Speaker 1: No skin, no skin of my Chicken's like she said,
Speaker 1: you don't want no skin on your chicken? No skin
Speaker 1: rich She goes she had heard his voice. She goes,
Speaker 1: oh shit, oh my Kennisha, Oh ship, Kendisha, come here,
Speaker 1: don't you say you want again a piece, No, nigga,
Speaker 1: we get a twelve piece. We get a twilt piece
Speaker 1: of a piece. Too fast to say those two fucking
Speaker 1: skin on that motherfuck nigga. The food comes out and
Speaker 1: she's like, oh my god, it's him. It's him. He's like, YO,
Speaker 1: appreciate you, Nigga. We eat the chicken. In the car.
Speaker 1: We're riding around. I don't know what the fund to
Speaker 1: do till five with MX just telling my baby mom, Yo,
Speaker 1: just ride around, my nigga. That's Ivory Street, this chore.
Speaker 1: This is the maze spot when Nigga's come to this
Speaker 1: to let out like nigga. We go back to the
Speaker 1: airport after the club, I mean, after the fucking after
Speaker 1: riding around. My baby Mom's like, my my daughter's wide
Speaker 1: and she recognized his voice. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: from from get at me, dogs, get at me dogs insane.
Speaker 1: At the time, my daughter's like she's tripping because she
Speaker 1: knows this is voice. We get to the airport. Back
Speaker 1: to the airport, DAMEX gets on the plane. I don't play.
Speaker 1: Small ship. We're flying from from from Richmonds in Virginia.
Speaker 1: Small ship sixteen passengers, quick, quick flip, yeah, quick, forty
Speaker 1: forty minute fly. I'm on the plane with fucking DMX
Speaker 1: and all these fucking businessmen that work in Virginia but
Speaker 1: live in New York. Ties suits the whole ship. I'm
Speaker 1: flying to New York JFK with DMX. We to a
Speaker 1: to be Ain't no first class because all this ship small.
Speaker 1: The nigga like, yeah, let's go. I said, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm chilling, But was movie and ship hype? I said, word,
Speaker 1: what is it? Now? I don't know what he's gonna call?
Speaker 1: Nas is in it? You know it? Nas is in it?
Speaker 1: Sucking t BOS just this with me crazy. I'm embarrassed.
Speaker 1: I'm embarrassed because I'm like, it's me, DMX and twelve
Speaker 1: white businessman. This motherfucker's on the plane. Yeah you mean excess,
Speaker 1: you mean that's t BOS you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, you know, he's talking so crazy.
Speaker 1: He tells me the whole premise of the movie. Now
Speaker 1: it's like two niggas, how do they getting money? Went
Speaker 1: out and again trying to the game, and at the end,
Speaker 1: the nigga they try to get the nigga that assassinated
Speaker 1: you know, what I mean one of the reference nigga
Speaker 1: won't do you know, I mean NASA, it's a it's
Speaker 1: a nig bucks bucks. And I'm just sitting there like, yo,
Speaker 1: why are you so loud? I fly JFK we fucking
Speaker 1: DMEX says, yo, you know, I mean I see you
Speaker 1: all day, you know, I mean with you. Two days later,
Speaker 1: d mix rap up you know what I'm saying, comes out,
Speaker 1: you know, but he got off. But the girl said
Speaker 1: girls trying to come up. She says some crazy ship
Speaker 1: about DMX. She comes out two days later and I'm
Speaker 1: just like, yo, it's just crazy. Ben Belly comes out
Speaker 1: and I'm like, that's the movie he was talking about.
Speaker 1: Oh you didn't cause yeah, you have no reference point, Buns.
Speaker 1: It sounds crazy. It's buns. It's t Bux and the
Speaker 1: ship ship and I'm just like swaying the ship. And
Speaker 1: then Belly comes out, WoT I can't no more? Get
Speaker 1: your shot, brother, get your shot, and then comes out,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry mass because you can't say you can't drink
Speaker 1: no more. You're gonna take one more drinking and say
Speaker 1: you can't drink that normal. That's it. It's a drink chat.
Speaker 1: You Pleasure, Drink Drink Chat Fraternity. I just want to
Speaker 1: say thank you. That's thanks for being open, thank you
Speaker 1: for you know this, this is what it is is. Oh,
Speaker 1: everybody in hip hop is a superhero. I believe that.
Speaker 1: So our job is to to to show that superheroes. Kate.
Speaker 1: I believe that our job to show that. Our job
Speaker 1: is to sit back there and even like you know,
Speaker 1: for poor righteous teachers to you know, you know, when
Speaker 1: little oozy work becomes a legend, job to sit there
Speaker 1: and say, wow, they're legend. I'm proud to prove and
Speaker 1: show to people who you are, how you are and
Speaker 1: what you are. Thank you, motherfucking legends. Let's do it.
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