1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: This is Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous in depth. 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: It's a very special episode of the almost Famous podcast 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: we have. I would say, uh definitely one of the 4 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: most uh captivating and intriguing uh characters on Paradise this season. 5 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: Jacob is joining us here in just a second, but 6 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: before we do, actually, I gotta tell you, I just 7 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: met two people who are fans of yours who traveled 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: in to Rhode Island to Audrey's coffee shop. They met Jared, 9 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 1: but you weren't there. I think you had something on. Yeah, 10 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 1: they did a live podcast from Audrey's. She's All Batch. Yeah, 11 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: it's their anniversary episode today that we recorded, and I 12 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: came on months ago um to hang out with him, 13 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: and uh, now today's their anniversary. So I came back 14 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: and they said, hey, we really like Ashley, and then 15 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: we talked a lot about your time on Paradise, which 16 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna obviously talk about with Jacob here and just 17 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: a second, and they're like, hey, we like seeing Ashley 18 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: and Jared. We just didn't need to see Ashley fart 19 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: so much. I mean, I'm sorry, guys, I can't help it. 20 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: They have a camera in our bedroom. Huh. Yeah, that's 21 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: what it is. Um. Well, actually, let's just get Jacob 22 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: on now chat with him about everything going on in Paradise. 23 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun exciting. Jacob is in the room. 24 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: Jacob is so good to see you again. We had 25 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 1: such a great time with you down in Paradise. You're 26 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 1: such a character. You lean in to being a character, 27 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 1: basically calling yourself Tarzan the entire time. Did you always 28 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: think that you are Tarzan? Or is that some the 29 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: Bachelor cave you? Um? I would imagine the Bachelor probably 30 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: gave that to me. I've always thought of myself as 31 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: someone who was a little bit wild, like I'm I mean, 32 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: I'm outside right now. Um. But honestly, you can't choose 33 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: a nickname for you. It's got to be given to you, 34 00:01:56,160 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: and I just kind of owned it. So um yeah, Well, 35 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: you started out, even on Gaping in Rachel's season as 36 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: being kind of like the naked guy you and other 37 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: than not like friends, whereas the ugly naked guy. You're 38 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: the hot naked guy, Oh thank you? So? Like, how 39 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: were you always that guy amongst your bros? No? I 40 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: was never the guy to go and take my shirt off. 41 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: I mean up until like two years ago, I was 42 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 1: kind of like chunky and I, you know, I didn't 43 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:34,399 Speaker 1: really work out, and all of a sudden COVID happened, 44 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: and um, it was like, to be honest, I mean, 45 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: COVID was obviously terrible for a lot of people, but 46 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: for me, it was a time for me just to 47 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: sit back, get in the gym, which again the gyms 48 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: were closed, so I just used my garage and I 49 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: just worked out in there every single day, and it 50 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 1: became where I said, okay, I lost pounds, um put 51 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: on some muscle, and then from there it was like, okay, 52 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: let's just keep this thing rolling. You either went one 53 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: way or the other during COVID, and I also got fit. 54 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: It was the best. It was the best shape I've 55 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: ever been in. Ben Which way did you go? I 56 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: got fit because I lived at my in law's house 57 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: for most of it and then my parents house for 58 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: some of it. And when you wake up in the 59 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: morning and you're like, what am I gonna do today, 60 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: there's very few excuses not to at least try to 61 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: go get active. My problem was I had more cocktails 62 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: during COVID than ever before because there wasn't like a 63 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: good reason not to it, you know, whatever time the day, 64 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: and so that didn't help my my physique. But I 65 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: worked out hard. I just I don't know, I just don't. 66 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: I can't look like you, Jacob. That's the thing. I 67 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: just can never look like you. It's I mean, to 68 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: be honest, there's plenty of other guys on the show 69 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: that we're better looking to me, had you know, worked 70 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: out even harder than me. I just I feel like 71 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: I just tried to own up to it. And that's 72 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: when I was watching like a clip from your guys 73 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: um podcast, probably like a few weeks ago, and you're 74 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: talking about me a little bit and saying like, yeah, 75 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: Jacob's the guy that's like the Bachelor in Paradise right now. 76 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: And it's probably because he came down and nothing but 77 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: a least, you know, it's like he's fun, he's energetic, 78 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: he's crazy, like who is this guy? Um? And that's 79 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 1: kind of what you know. I may not be the 80 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: most fit guy, but at least I'm like the most energetic, 81 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: and I don't take myself seriously. I think that's what 82 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: kind of alerts some people or gave some people like 83 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: some like, oh, this guy is actually fun. You know, 84 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: he's not just another you know, the guy that just 85 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: is all about himself or something like that. But here's 86 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: here's my fault to that, because he can go one 87 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,799 Speaker 1: of two ways. Either somebody's gonna be interested and intrigued 88 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: and be like, hey, Jacob's fun and he's into just 89 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: having a good time. Or you can come off as 90 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: the joke of Paradise or the joke of the bachelorette. 91 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: So how did you walk that line? And did you 92 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: do it like consciously, like did you intentionally try to say, hey, 93 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: I I you know, and down for whatever, but I'm 94 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: just not a joke here. So kind of how did 95 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: you balance it? A good question? So, you know what, 96 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: it's hard. It's it's tough because when you come to 97 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: that situation, you know you're gonna be putting everything out there, 98 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: um literally, And it was for me, it was it 99 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: was just being real. It was just being real with people, 100 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: Like I mean, when when I'm communicating with people, when 101 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: I'm talking to them there it's like it is a 102 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: funny joke at the beginning, But I knew that was 103 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: the only told me one day I be wearing that 104 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: outfit and at that point I said, Okay, well I'm 105 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: gonna be a real person, get to know these girls, 106 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: um and be a little bit deeper than that. Like 107 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: I said in the last podcast I was on, you know, 108 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: I have more facets. I have a lot of different 109 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:54,679 Speaker 1: strengths and it's not just being crazy outgoing. But people 110 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: could read through that. And I know even the guys 111 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: were like, you know, they're joking around, but at the 112 00:05:58,360 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 1: end of the day, they that we could have a 113 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: deeper conversation than that. Does it frustrate you that you 114 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: do kind of look like you I don't care what's 115 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: going on, dude. No, not in not in the slightest. 116 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: I I own that part. I love being just the 117 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: guy who just doesn't like I'm just like I'm staring 118 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: off into the distance at something, you know, like I 119 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: just don't never never really cared for that, Like I mean, 120 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: there's always been another person who's done it better than me, 121 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: and I'm just like, all right, whatever, I'll just be 122 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: myself and that's me. Well, you're absolutely harmless, which I 123 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,119 Speaker 1: think is wonderful. Like you're having fun. And I feel 124 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: like even even though Jill is seemingly going to get 125 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: her heartbroken, Uh, and you know, like I know Jill, 126 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: and I just know that she probably she's freaking out now, 127 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: but like you know, I'm sure there's no hard feelings 128 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: that exist currently now. Yeah, So it's like, I don't know, 129 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 1: I just feel like you're just very playful and sometimes 130 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: play like and I just think that you're just genuinely playful. Okay, 131 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: what was the last time you took a relationship? Really seriously? 132 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: Are we gonna see that that with Kate or are 133 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: we gonna still see more Paradise fun with Kate? Sure? 134 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: And that. Yeah. That's the other thing too, is you know, 135 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: coming into Paradise, I didn't look at any of the 136 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: character I didn't look at any of the girls prior 137 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: to I wanted to just come in there with you know, 138 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: an open open clear book, open mind, um and get 139 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: to know everybody you know in that in that context 140 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: of being there and you you you both know that 141 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: well then I'm not sure if you were on Paradise, 142 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: but um, so that's that's the thing about it is 143 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: you don't have a lot of time with these people, 144 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: um when you're there, so you're getting to know that 145 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: you know, I meant I knew Jill for less than 146 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: a week before we went on our date, and you know, 147 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: on paper we we really were a really great match 148 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: and we and we still are. I believe that Jill 149 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: is such an amazing person. We communicate all the time. Um, 150 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: I don't want to give away too much. But at 151 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: the end of the day, after that moment, I was 152 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: I have always been the person who's going to go 153 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: on the beach and if I find my soul mate, 154 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to get on one knee and propose. But 155 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: as you know, actually it's hard. It's hard initially to 156 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: to find your person. You may not know if that 157 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: your person is there before you do, and then you 158 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: may you may know later on you're like, dang it, 159 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: I wish I had put pursued more. It's hard out there. 160 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: And I did start to realize that later that I 161 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: need to be more um formal and and and be 162 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: more intentional. But at the end of the day, I 163 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: felt like I'm not going to lead anybody on either. 164 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: And that's immediately what I you know, with how Jill 165 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: and I were, it's like, I'm not gonna I don't 166 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 1: want to be the person to go out and cheat 167 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: on you or something like that I want to. I 168 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: want to let you know and give and give it 169 00:08:51,559 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: to you straight up. You're into quote Taylor Swift casually 170 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: cool in the name of being honest when he said 171 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: I don't wake up in the morning thinking of Jill. 172 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: That's like a dire for a girl. Do you regret 173 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: saying that or I mean, honestly, it's not really regretful. 174 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 1: I mean it's super super honest, but it is just 175 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: its harsh. Yeah, that's another good question. It was hurtful. Um, 176 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: if I could go back, I wouldn't say that. But again, 177 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 1: I'm very honest, as you know from me on the 178 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: Batch threat and from this, I'm brutally honest sometimes. And 179 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm okay with people being brutally honest 180 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: to me too. Um, I think that's at least I'm not. 181 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 1: At least I'm not going to lead you on or 182 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 1: ghost you or just not tell it to you. Straight up. 183 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: I'd rather give it to you and and that way 184 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: we can if we were a match forever, then I 185 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: would then I would continue to pursue you. You all 186 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: the way. I'm I'm either a hundred percent or I'm 187 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: a zero percent guy. Well, I guess you can. You 188 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: can argue that you were leading on Jill if you're 189 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: still hanging out with her and not really thinking about 190 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: her in that light. Yeah, that's in the case too, 191 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: is is Uh, That's the thing about me is initially 192 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: I do I do, look, I I do well, I 193 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: look I want to I want to have fun too, 194 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: like I'm and me being fun is me being playful 195 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 1: and and goofy and like and you know, like a 196 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: little bit touchy feely and stuff like that, Like I'm 197 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: I'm okay with that stuff too, But I don't know. 198 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: It's just like in the back of your head, you're like, okay, 199 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: so it's forever. It's forever. Um, is this my person? 200 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: And sometimes you got to look back and say like, 201 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. I I really don't. I it was 202 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: so hard to to do that. But I don't want 203 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: to lead that personal And I think maybe in that case, 204 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 1: I do a little bit with Jill. Um. You know, 205 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: when we didn't have it, we didn't get have a 206 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: chance to talk before she left, you know, like, hey, 207 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: if we get to meet other people, are you going 208 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: to go and talk to these guys? Am I gonna 209 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: go talk to these girls. Are we in kind of 210 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: like that open relationship right now? Um, we didn't have that. 211 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: It was it was pretty instantaneous when when Jesse came in. 212 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: So stuff. I mean, that's that's where my question like, 213 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: because I don't know and and please tell me that 214 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: you did. Um, but I don't see it as you 215 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 1: leading Jill on unless you had these feelings before she left, 216 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: because you didn't get a chance to talk to her 217 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: and confront her once the girls were gone. You had 218 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: just moved on with somebody else. Uh. And I'm you know, 219 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: we don't know how it's gonna play out necessarily and 220 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: how that conversation is gonna look when she does come back. 221 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: But when Jill was the only person on the beach 222 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: for you, were you having these doubts that I miss 223 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: this or were you having these doubts already? Uh? Yeah, Ben, 224 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: So no, I didn't have those doubts initially. Um. But 225 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 1: but you know, in the back of my mind what 226 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: I had said was partially true, Like what do I 227 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: wake up in the morning and say, Wow, I'm I'm 228 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: ecstatic to see this person. Not not really not not 229 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: two And I know that's super harsh for Jill because 230 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: I mean she is she is an amazing person. Um. 231 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: And to be honest, like, I still have some feelings 232 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: for Jill in that you know, romantic way. Um, it's 233 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: it's just really hard because she is such an amazing person. 234 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to hurt her in anyway. Um. I 235 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: just in the moment you're having, You're just you're living 236 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: that paradise lifestyle. And I guess I could have done 237 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: it differently, but it was it was so early to tell, 238 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: if if that makes sense. Like I said, we've we 239 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 1: had been known each other for a couple of nights. 240 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: It was probably the st date I've ever been on, 241 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 1: the best first date I've ever been on. I mean, 242 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: we got completely nude with each other and got into 243 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: bathtubs and hold that the moon with a shaman like me. 244 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: To get to do that, I just don't I don't 245 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: know how you end a relationship after that first date, 246 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: Like what, how in the world do you have that 247 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 1: kind of first date? And then you're like, yeah, I 248 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: don't know if this is gonna work out. I know 249 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: they set you up to definitely. You're like, hey, you 250 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: know I saw what I saw, we did what we did, 251 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: and uh, it's best if we just try to date 252 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: other people. Like, there was no good way for you 253 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: to get out if you wanted to get out, Yeah, 254 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: there was no there was no good way for me 255 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: to do it. And and again, if we had had 256 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: that conversation prior to I think I would have been 257 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: a little bit more um open with her and said, well, 258 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: you know, I do, I do really like you, but 259 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: in this moment, let's just see how things go. If 260 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: if we have a connection with someone else, then take that. 261 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: If you don't, then then let's continue and see where 262 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: this goes. Um. If I would in a lot of lights, 263 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: I'd still be open to having that relationship with Jill, 264 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: because again, we get each other, as you saw it, 265 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: actually like we we really do. Um. But yeah, it's 266 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: it's just yeah, it's hard. It's definitely hard out there. Ben, 267 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: you asked Jill about something biological during our live podcast 268 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: with Jill about that? Do you want to ask? Yeah, 269 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: you want to ask Jacob? Yeah, during a live podcast, 270 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: I asked Jill did you like what you saw, you know, 271 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: from a biological standpoint, from a human standpoint, and she said, yeah, 272 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: I did. Uh. Jacob asked you the same question Uh 273 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: was that and were you happy with what you saw? 274 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: Because Jill claimed at our live podcast that you told 275 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: the guys yes, oh absolutely, yeah it was. I tried 276 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: to keep my eyes you know, to it well us level, 277 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: I guess. But yeah, that was nice of you. Yeah, 278 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: I was. Yeah, okay, it's but again I did like 279 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: when I saw and I did like what I I 280 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: guess felt. Um, we you know she's beautiful, she's definitely. Yeah, 281 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: she's hot. I have to ask you man to man though, Jacob, 282 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: you know, going to too many details, right, we have 283 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: thank you. We have a wide array of listeners here, 284 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: but they know what they're getting into by listening to us. Uh. 285 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: If I was asked to be on that date and 286 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: I found myself in the same position as you, I 287 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: would be very nervous about life happening in that moment 288 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: for me and it getting really weird for not only 289 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: myself for my date, but also the twentiesome people that 290 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: are watching us. Was that a concern of yours? Are you? Um? Yeah, 291 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: I guess that's what I can leave it, you know 292 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: what I'm asking. Was it a concern? Yeah? Uh, yeah, 293 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: I know, it absolutely was. I was. I was in 294 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: the back, like trying to think about baseball, trying to 295 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: think about other things. And in the same context I 296 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: was I also kind of knew that there was five 297 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: cameras and a bunch of people all staring at us too. 298 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: But at the same time, so I'm trying to put 299 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: my mind off of not thinking about Jill's body and 300 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: think about think about like, Okay, let's think about other things. 301 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: But there was moments where I was like, Okay, let's 302 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: right up and getting this bathtub. Jacob, you are saying 303 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: that you still have sort of like romantic, li gering 304 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: feelings her chill. Sounds like you really respected like her 305 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: as a human being. I don't know that somebody who 306 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: ends up with somebody end the paradise would be saying 307 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: such things. So I'm assuming that things that k may 308 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: not be going uh, they may not be uh. You 309 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: might not be ending in paradise with her. That's the 310 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: safest something. And I guess, um, there's a lot of 311 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 1: twists and turns in the rest of the season. I'll 312 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: be honest, like, this is a very wild paradise. Um, 313 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,719 Speaker 1: And yeah, I wouldn't be saying that if you know, 314 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: if you're happily with somebody maybe yeah, yeah, yeah. I 315 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: don't want to I don't want to learn anything too crazy. 316 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: But you know, again I have a lot of relationships 317 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: on this show. Um and again, like I said before 318 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: and I'll restate it again, I am there for the 319 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: ultimate goal of finding a future partner. You know, in 320 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: that particular case, we are in this same context exploring 321 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: seeing who we match up with the most, who we 322 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: truly like and want to spend the rest of our 323 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: life with. Because when I do propose, I mean I 324 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: want to be one time. You know, I don't want 325 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: to do this. I don't want to do this two 326 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: or three times or break things off, to be honest, like, 327 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: I want to have that ending type of relationship. So 328 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna explore. I'm gonna see my my options and 329 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: kind of weigh those out, but sometimes to make their 330 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: own decision. Um I'm human, just like everybody else. We 331 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: all do. Is my first or second time on TV 332 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: doing this? Um Am I the greatest at dating in 333 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: real life too? Probably not? Uh, But at the end 334 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: of the day, you live and you learn and you 335 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 1: have to just do better the next time. You know. 336 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: How did you feel about Kate being so open this 337 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: week about like just wanting to win and get the 338 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 1: rows and stick around and like I'll do anything in 339 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: order to like make it through the next week. And 340 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like she was like super into you 341 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 1: as she was the competition. Yeah, you heard it yourself. 342 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: I mean she she was like she she basically said 343 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: that you know, she's not usually in the guys like me. Um, 344 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: you know, younger guys, guys that look like they come 345 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: out of a Marvel movie. That was a compliment. I 346 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: think I don't think I looked like tor. Uh but anyway, 347 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: so yeah, I think I mean, look, at the end 348 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: of the day, I think Lay was doing the same thing. Um, 349 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: to be honest, like probably just using me for a rose. Um. 350 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: And again, I love Lacey that she's she's amazing, and 351 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: UM hope the hopefully things work out with her and 352 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: Rodney and everything like that, but um, it's not looking 353 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: too great there anyway. I just I feel like in 354 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 1: this particular context, like you don't know what someone's gonna do, 355 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: and and someone could be leading me on as well, 356 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: and that could be what Kate's doing right now. Um, 357 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: And I just it this it's like, what do you 358 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: what are you doing the same in this space you 359 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: don't you can't really tell with someone. And when I'm 360 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:45,719 Speaker 1: talking to Kate, it's like all bubbly, all fun, you know, cute, 361 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: like just a cute little thing like and that's where 362 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: I'm just like, okay, perfect. And the funniest part about 363 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: the whole thing is the show is showing us making 364 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: out like for two and a half three minutes, and 365 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 1: just like we made out two times in person. It 366 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: wasn't like it was in you know, all the time, 367 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: like oh, we're just making out the whole time, and 368 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: here's Jill looking at our crystals. It was like, okay, 369 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: we made at one time, they showed the entire makeout 370 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: sash and it just made it look like, Okay, I'm 371 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: just totally like into this other person. But in this 372 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, it was just me being myself, just 373 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: just seeing what so seeing what was there? So would 374 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: you say that, you know, to give a perspective on 375 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: what was going on your head at that point in 376 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: time as where we sit right now with the show 377 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: and what we know is viewers, Um, did you feel 378 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: stronger about Jill at one point or Kate like what 379 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 1: was was kind of the one for you? Were you 380 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: thinking this could be the thing that lasted to the end, 381 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: like if you had to balance it out? Where was 382 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: your head at? Oh man, another good question. At the moment, 383 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: I'm probably saying to myself, it's it's probably pushing towards 384 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: Kate in that in that same context, um, Kate is 385 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: like she has this just salesman mindset where she's very cool, 386 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: very you know, educated, and it just in that moment 387 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: and saying with Jail though Jill is very very educated 388 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: as well. Um, but I just I felt like there 389 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: was that spark too with with Kate, and I was like, Okay, 390 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: let me just see what's up with this too. And 391 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 1: again when they take the girls away and you just 392 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: have you know, you you solely with that other person, 393 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: you look at both relationships and kind of weigh those out. 394 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: And I was just saying to myself, well, I think 395 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: if this and this is the and and even m 396 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: Kate is not my forever person, I'm still going to 397 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: look back and say, well, that means that I'm probably 398 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: not a hundred percent with Jill. And so in that 399 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 1: in that same thing, you'll see next week what happens. 400 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: But I don't want to lead anybody on, and I'm 401 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: gonna tell you straight up, um, but yeah, I was 402 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: probably more towards Kate in that moment. To be honest, 403 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 1: we all can see that your chemistry with Kate was instantaneous, 404 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: and with Jill it took you a little bit. Yeah, 405 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 1: we didn't. We didn't even start talking until the week 406 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: two or three. I know. Okay, so we have five 407 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: more minutes with you. I want to ask you a 408 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: few fun, rapid fire Bachelor in Paradise questions. But first, 409 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: as a mortgage broker, what's your advice for people looking 410 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: for homes these days? This is not an ad either, 411 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: This is not I'm truly curious. Do either you too 412 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: need to buy a house or I we just bought 413 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: the house in in June and so like we're done 414 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 1: for a while. Oh man, well, you know, right now 415 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: is tough. Right now is super tough for people. We 416 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: have the tenure treasury going through the roof. The interest 417 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: rates are astronomical compared to what they were about six 418 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: months ago, a year ago. So right now is I 419 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: would hold off. I think that's the that's the good play. 420 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: You don't want to buy a house at seven percent 421 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: interest straight. Um, it's just not going to be beneficial 422 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: to you. Even doing a cash out loan right now 423 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: is just it's crazy. But if you need the money, 424 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: you need the money. Um. So I'll also be honest, 425 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: I'm not currently a mortgage broker anymore. I was gonna 426 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: ask if you still were or if that was ever 427 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: your profession, because The Bachelor likes to like just slap 428 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: on professions. No, no, I was a broker. I was 429 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: a broker for about two years. Um. That's why I 430 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: moved to Scottsdale. Um the second show, I knew I 431 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: couldn't continue to pursue this, And after I got back 432 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: from Paradise, when the interest rates went up that much, 433 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: it was it was so hard to do have a 434 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: refined market. We weren't pretty, we weren't huge into realtors 435 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: at the time, so we didn't have a great relationship 436 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: with them. So for me, it was like, how do 437 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: I what do I do? What do I transition out 438 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: of this from? And too, I ultimately want to be 439 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: a multi family investor. I think that's where the big 440 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: cash flow is. So I'm looking right now for another 441 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: job in you know, maybe underwriting for somebody. UM So, 442 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 1: if you know anybody who is currently buying multi family 443 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: investment properties, let them know. I'm a bit right. Are 444 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 1: you just cruising the B I P wave right now 445 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 1: until you find the job? Yeah? Yeah, I am. Um. 446 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: I just want to have something that's a career like 447 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: I don't want to because Mortgages I was only I 448 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 1: was working there for you know, three years, and now 449 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: look at it, I would probably make half of what 450 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: I was making before. So I want something that's long term. Um. 451 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: So hopefully that's with investing. But we'll see. Okay, good well, 452 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: good luck with that. It sounds like you know what 453 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 1: you're talking about. I have no idea what I'm talking about, 454 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: so like anybody really, I mean like hmm, yeah, you 455 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: know what I mean? That out, don't take that out. Okay, 456 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: it sounds like you you know what you're doing. Um so, 457 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: good luck with that venture. Now. I want to go 458 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: into some fun rapid fire beschelor in Paradise questions. Okay, ready, 459 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: what was your go to order for food? Okay, go 460 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 1: to order for food? I loved the ahi tuna, the 461 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: fish tacos probably would there was like a there's a 462 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: soup and I want to go too much detial. It's 463 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: like a fish soup, It's a sea. It was like 464 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: a savica. Yeah, and I would have that just about 465 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: every day with a smoothie. What was your go to 466 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: alcoholic beverage quick story? I asked, I love Margarita's and 467 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: I would always get margarita from Wells and Wells. Once 468 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: time made me a spicy margarita and he put fresh 469 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 1: al opinions in there. I took one sip of this 470 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 1: thing and it was way too spicy, and I handed 471 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: it back to Wells. I was like, hey, Wells, you know, 472 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 1: can you make me something a little bit more, a 473 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: little bit less spicy, like just a regular margarita? And 474 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: he like turns me and he does something that's I 475 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: probably can't say on this podcast or even on my 476 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: TV whatever will beep it out. Uh. He takes a napkin, 477 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 1: he rolls it up in his hands, and he says, 478 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: next time, just stick this up your Wow. Thanks Well 479 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: to go, continue with my potty humor of Bachelor in Paradise? 480 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: Where was your Where was your pooping room? Where was 481 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: my personal Did you have like a bathroom that you 482 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: would go to for privacy or did you just not 483 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: care just go into the guy's room. No, No, I 484 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: just go in the ocean, you know, like that's that's 485 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: where I was like a little bit freaked out there 486 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: for a second joke, you know, if I were to 487 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: use the restrooments, I go wherever when Chever restaurants open, 488 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not like freak out about that. What 489 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: was your favorite daytime activity? Uh? We favorite daytime activity 490 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: was with the boys. We would play tips in the pool, 491 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: which is like a tips is where you take like 492 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: a beach ball or no, it's a football. You take 493 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: a football and you you have to you have to 494 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: jump up and catch him before you touch the ground 495 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 1: your feet. You throw it back up and we're in 496 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 1: the pool, and so if you throw it to somebody, 497 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: it's kind of close and they miss it, they bobble 498 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: it and they're out and you go until someone wins. 499 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: So we would all play that like every day. Okay, 500 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: that's fun. Yeah, when the girls think we're cheating, that's 501 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 1: what we're doing. Okay. Lastly, if you had to be 502 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: stranded on actual desert island with one of the girls, 503 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: who would it be. And then if it had to 504 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: be one of the guys. Who would it be stranded 505 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: on a desert island. I mean, at this point it's 506 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: probably Jill like. We would have a good we would 507 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: have a lot of good conversations. You know, I don't 508 00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 1: know what else we would do on the beach, but 509 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: um I do uh with the guy uh Logan, I 510 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: always matched. We always had a good conversation from each other, 511 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: and we can always make each other laugh. So crabby Logan, Well, 512 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: great answers. Thank you so much for coming on, and 513 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 1: we can't wait to see where everything leads for you. 514 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: You are very fun to watch ye hang out with 515 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: in person. Jared, I really enjoyed your company. Thank you 516 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 1: so much. Ben Ashley, thank you very much. It's a pleasure. Hey, 517 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: you gotta follow along with us, So Jacob, you're not 518 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: done quite yet. Follow our lead with it. That's been 519 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: a great in depth Bachelor in Paradise episode with one 520 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: of our favorites, Jacob. We'll be talking to you again 521 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: very soon. Look for new episodes to be coming out 522 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: in the next week. Until then, I've been been, I've 523 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: been Ashley, and I'm Jacob. I've been Jacob. That works, 524 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: but That's fine, all right, See you guys ye. Follow 525 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts on I 526 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: Heart Radio, or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.