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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Glay Travis buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: Wednesday edition of the program. Bucks still on his honeymoon

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Speaker 1: with the Lovely carry Out for the rest of this week.

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Speaker 1: He is somewhere in the South Pacific living it up.

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Speaker 1: I am with you here Clay Travis, to roll through

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Speaker 1: the stories of the day and help bring a little

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Speaker 1: bit of sanity to an insane world. I hope all

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Speaker 1: of you are having fantastic Wednesday's giving you a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a roadmap of where we're headed on the show.

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Speaker 1: Next hour, we're going to dive into this Ohio train

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Speaker 1: spill and what exactly is going on there with Bill Johnson,

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Speaker 1: the Congressman who represents that area. Of the latest news there.

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Speaker 1: We will also continue to follow the ongoing crisis surrounding

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Speaker 1: What do we even shoot down and why do we

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Speaker 1: still not know what we shot down the past week

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Speaker 1: or so and what exactly happened there We will discuss

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Speaker 1: as it is underway right now. Nicki Haley officially announcing

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Speaker 1: her presidential run, joining Donald Trump as a contender in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. Who else is going to run. How

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Speaker 1: do we assess her viability? Will discuss that as well.

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Speaker 1: A lot to get into be taking your calls as well. Also,

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Speaker 1: this is a troubling story doctor Jensen, who was the

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Speaker 1: nominee for Minnesota governor for Republicans. They're trying to take

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Speaker 1: away his medical license. This is a crazy story that

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Speaker 1: I think we need to discuss. Also, New York City

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Speaker 1: sent to the FBI fingerprint data on New York City

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Speaker 1: school teachers who were refusing to get the COVID shot.

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Speaker 1: What in the world was going on there? We will

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Speaker 1: discuss that as well. But yesterday I teased with you

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Speaker 1: a story that I saw that to me is incredibly

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Speaker 1: emblematic of the era in which we live, and in particular,

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Speaker 1: what it represents is the amount of young girls, teenage

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Speaker 1: girls in particular, who are really suffering in today's America.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think we are discussing this enough. But

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Speaker 1: this came out of a survey, and I'm reading from

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Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal. This is a CDC survey on

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Speaker 1: youth behavior, and it said fifty seven percent of high

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Speaker 1: school girls in the past year experienced persistent feelings of

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Speaker 1: sadness or hopelessness and this number I couldn't get out

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Speaker 1: of my head. Thirty percent of high school girls seriously

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Speaker 1: considered attempting suicide in the past year, thirty percent, fifty

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Speaker 1: seven percent basically massively depressed. Now, the reality is teenagers,

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Speaker 1: as you well know, often are fraught with emotions, and

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Speaker 1: the teenage years can be very, very difficult. If you

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Speaker 1: go back and remember your own teenage years, how much

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Speaker 1: time did it seem like past, between say, when you

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Speaker 1: were a freshman to when you were a senior compared

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Speaker 1: to twenty eighteen to now. And probably if you're listening

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Speaker 1: to me right now, twenty eighteen you can snap your

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Speaker 1: fingers that feel like it just was here. And if

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Speaker 1: you're a and that has to do with the telescoping

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Speaker 1: effect of time when you're younger, that those years are

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Speaker 1: so impressed upon you because you've had relatively few of them,

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Speaker 1: and as you get older, years pass and don't seem

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Speaker 1: to leave as big of a significant mark on your life.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of the way our minds work. But what

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Speaker 1: is going on right now that fifty seven percent of

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Speaker 1: teenage girls are basically suffering from some form of depression,

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Speaker 1: and thirty percent of teenage girls have thought about killing

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Speaker 1: themselves in the past year, and these numbers continue to

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Speaker 1: get worse year after year because we have a baseline

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Speaker 1: upon which we can measure these and you know where

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Speaker 1: this is probably not going to stun all of you,

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Speaker 1: but it might stun some of you. Do you know

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Speaker 1: when these rates of suicidal ideation and when these rates

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Speaker 1: of massive propression, particularly among teenage girls, although teenage boys

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Speaker 1: are also impacted, really took off when social media became

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Speaker 1: it makes a lot of sense, right because Instagram in particular,

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Speaker 1: is even in social media, which is an artificial construct.

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Speaker 1: I've argued for a long time that social media is

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Speaker 1: akin to carnival fun house mirrors. That's the analogy, the

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Speaker 1: metaphor that I would that I would lay out for

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Speaker 1: you where if you've ever been to a carnival and

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Speaker 1: And I think, unfortunately what has happened and it is

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Speaker 1: impacting young people more than anybody else, which I have

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Speaker 1: theory is this is the people that are most fertile

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Speaker 1: to embrace the woke virus which has run rampant throughout

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Speaker 1: this country since social media came into effect. This is

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Speaker 1: a big picture idea that I want to share with you.

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Speaker 1: If you are feeling intensely unhappy, and if you are

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Speaker 1: feeling psychologically unwell, you are going to project those feelings

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Speaker 1: that you have internally. I really do believe on the

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Speaker 1: larger country and the war world as well, and so

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Speaker 1: the internal strife that you are filling makes you believe

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Speaker 1: that the country as a whole is also awful. And

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Speaker 1: this is the territory that Democrats are plunging and taking

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Speaker 1: recognized this massive lack of purpose that has taken over

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Speaker 1: in a social media age, and they have weaponized it

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Speaker 1: by telling all these young people, your country is awful,

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Speaker 1: your country is sick. Your country is not a story

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Speaker 1: of righteousness. America is founded on evil and venality, and

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Speaker 1: therefore you cannot support anything in America. And if you

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Speaker 1: think about that, the woke virus is taking over in

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Speaker 1: these young people because they're so profoundly unhappy with their

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Speaker 1: think it's particularly pernicious on Instagram. I want to open

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Speaker 1: and grandparents about this, and also, if by chance you're

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Speaker 1: about the impact as well, because in addition to giving

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Speaker 1: it's also giving you I think, in particular for girls,

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Speaker 1: the people who are most popular on Instagram, this is

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Speaker 1: we've had Playboy for a long time, We've had Maxim

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Speaker 1: we have a lot of small level fame. The best

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Speaker 1: may not be as self confident, it's making them wildly

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Speaker 1: unhappy in their own lives because you might have not

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Speaker 1: You might have known that the captain of the cheerleading

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Speaker 1: there are lots of interesting discussions about what should happen,

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Speaker 1: what could happen. And I don't claim to be an

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Speaker 1: expert on this. I've got three boys, one teenager, one

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Speaker 1: don't have girls. They sit around on social media and

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure that that's super healthy, but I don't

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Speaker 1: think it reflects upon their own self image in the

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Speaker 1: may explain why the desire to commit suicide, for instance,

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Speaker 1: particularly healthy for anyone, but I do think that for

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Speaker 1: young girls it's probably the least healthy of all. And

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Speaker 1: how do we fix this? Its some big topic, big discussion.

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Speaker 1: Senator Josh Holly, who may join us later in this week.

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Speaker 1: He's instituted a bill that would ban anyone younger than

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Speaker 1: because people are not ready for that opportunity. I can

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Speaker 1: see the logic there. We don't let thirteen year olds

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Speaker 1: drive cars, why should we let them have social media accounts? Now?

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Speaker 1: Kids can still. I want to have a big discussion

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Speaker 1: bet many of you out there are sensing this, feel it,

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Speaker 1: and see it in your own existence, in your own families.

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Speaker 1: If you heard yesterday show where we went after the

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Speaker 1: I don't know how Facebook regulates and proves that you are,

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Speaker 1: you know, not the age that you're claiming to be.

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Speaker 1: So I agree with my concern and thank you for

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Speaker 1: the call. By the way, my concern is not with

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Speaker 1: whether government should be involved here. It's whether we can

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Speaker 1: come up with rules that are efficient and effective that

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Speaker 1: makes sense. Let me give you one. Do you know

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Speaker 1: that there are kids getting raked over the colds every

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Speaker 1: single day for something that they post on social media

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Speaker 1: when they were fourteen or fifteen years old when they

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Speaker 1: become adults. If you're a kid out there and you're

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Speaker 1: listening to me right now and you're about to go

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Speaker 1: I would scrub all of your old social media because

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Speaker 1: there's almost nothing that you can gain from it, and

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Speaker 1: it creates potential headaches for you. But one thing that

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Speaker 1: I think should be a national policy is, look, you know,

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Speaker 1: our general rule as it comes to adolescence, if you

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Speaker 1: have a juvenile justice system is because we believe based

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Speaker 1: on your youth that shouldn't follow you for the rest

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Speaker 1: us right now who did incredibly stupid, maybe even criminal

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Speaker 1: things when you were fifteen years old, when you were

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Speaker 1: sixteen years old, that then gets completely erased unless you're

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Speaker 1: tried as an adult, And that's a different conversation. And

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Speaker 1: typically if you're tried as an adult for a crime,

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Speaker 1: it would mean that the crime is very, very severe

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Speaker 1: But most fifteen and six year old crimes are not

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Speaker 1: and some other sixteen year old kid got into a

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Speaker 1: sense for what a teenage kid could get in trouble for.

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Speaker 1: We cut off your responsibility for those crimes when you

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Speaker 1: become an adult. You know how often kids are getting

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Speaker 1: in trouble now, not getting admitted to colleges, not getting jobs,

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Speaker 1: losing opportunities because the things they did before they were eighteen.

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Speaker 1: Let me just float at least one idea that I

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Speaker 1: would like to see, how about we treat social media idiocy.

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Speaker 1: If your kid is out there singing along to a

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Speaker 1: rap song and there's a racial slur in it, does

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Speaker 1: that really mean that kids shouldn't be able to go

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Speaker 1: to college? Because that's happening now where kids are losing

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Speaker 1: their college admissions because they sing along to rap songs

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Speaker 1: in a TikTok video. We need to have adults making

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Speaker 1: adult decisions, but we also need I think, nationwide parameters

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Speaker 1: for what should be existing with social media, and I

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Speaker 1: think later this week we're gonna have a good conversation

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Speaker 1: with Senator Josh Holley about this. By the way, appreciate

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Speaker 1: all of you hanging out with us and having this conversation,

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Speaker 1: because I do think it's a really significant one that

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Speaker 1: is super super important for so many of you, not

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Speaker 1: just with your kids, but with your grandkids and by

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Speaker 1: the way, grandparents, I think these are conversations you can

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Speaker 1: of social media, but understanding consequences is a big part

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Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Let me

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Speaker 1: get a couple more of these calls. Caller has been fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Connie in Miami, we're discussing the rise of social media.

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Speaker 1: You've got two teenage boys and you work in it

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Speaker 1: and your husband does as well. What are your thoughts? Hi,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. This topic really resonated with me,

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Speaker 1: and I think you want to hear about legislation. While

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Speaker 1: there may be, you know, a fit for that, in

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Speaker 1: some way, I think in my opinion, it comes down

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Speaker 1: to the core issue of, you know, the child not

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Speaker 1: being connected. And usually if kids, regardless of any physical

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Speaker 1: attributes I used to be a music teacher years ago,

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Speaker 1: regardless of physical attributes, if they have a strong bond

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Speaker 1: with a brother or a sister, a mother or father

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Speaker 1: above it makes a huge difference. And I think over time,

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Speaker 1: you know, I get it. It's really entertaining to give

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Speaker 1: a baby to give a toddler a gadget and they're

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Speaker 1: fooling entertained, and you can focus on whatever you need

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Speaker 1: to focus. But I think over time, and especially to

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Speaker 1: to COVID, the level of you know, human lack of

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Speaker 1: human connections is crazy. And you know, as you were

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Speaker 1: talking about the article, nobody posed, you know, in social

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Speaker 1: media bad moment, they're just highlighting the best moments, which

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Speaker 1: may or may not be indicative of their life. As

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Speaker 1: it is. So to me, it's not so much about

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Speaker 1: regulating at what age, So I think some of that

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Speaker 1: may be appropriate. But and this is also not a

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Speaker 1: critical comment on parents at all. I know, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's a difficult job. It's a difficult task, but it's

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Speaker 1: making time, making purposeful time. I have to tell you

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Speaker 1: that one I received cards yesterday from my boys for

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Speaker 1: Valentine's Day. They brought me to tears because they highlighted

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Speaker 1: the time I take with them. You know how I'm

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Speaker 1: involved in in every you know, in their schooling and everything,

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Speaker 1: and it doesn't happen overnight. But I think if a

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Speaker 1: kid has knows that their parent is right there, has

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Speaker 1: their back. I think the amount of depressed kids kids

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Speaker 1: on the verge of suicide, which is, you know, super

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Speaker 1: distressing and alarming, UM would be much lower. I thank

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Speaker 1: you for the call. No, I think that's a lot.

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Speaker 1: I think one thing that she hit that I that

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Speaker 1: I think needs to be hammered home is that social

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Speaker 1: media is a highlight reel, and a lot of kids

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Speaker 1: if your lives don't feel like there's very many highlights.

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Speaker 1: You are looking at the best moments of somebody else's

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Speaker 1: life while you're sitting by yourself in your room and

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Speaker 1: you are thinking to yourself, man, my life sucks. Well,

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Speaker 1: actually it's a curated highlight reel that you're watching, and

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Speaker 1: I think that's hard for thirteen and fourteen and fifteen

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Speaker 1: year old kids to understand. I also think it's omnipresent

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Speaker 1: because whereas you or I back in the day you

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Speaker 1: the evening when you weren't in school, when you're home

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Speaker 1: by yourself. Now, the immediate default is I'm going to

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Speaker 1: get on social media and look at what everybody else

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Speaker 1: is doing. And it creates an enormous sense I think

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Speaker 1: of worthlessness. And again, I think there are just a

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Speaker 1: lot of kids without purpose, and my big thesis would

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Speaker 1: be that that's where the world as it pertains to

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Speaker 1: the woke society. Up next, Doctor Scott Jensen, Minnesota,