1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Did you see him tape of Marcus left tackle. 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, Marcus did some good things. There are times where 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 2: where you know he passed protected well, you know, it 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 2: was was solid in the run game. I think, as 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 2: always when you watch the tape, you're gonna have one 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 2: or two plays that you're gonna want to have back, 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 2: or whether it's it's you know, technical finish, whatever it 8 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: may be. But for the most part, I thought he 9 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: did a good job. Always areas to improve, and I 10 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 2: think you could tell having the entire week to prepare 11 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 2: and take those reps and and you know, really get 12 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 2: ready to go start a game, showed up and he 13 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 2: played well enough for us to win. 14 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 3: How much you think a year of you know, an 15 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 3: off season of being able to put on the strength 16 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 3: and muscle can help him. And it seems like if 17 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 3: there's something in his game, so the power seems to 18 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 3: be something that they can probably improve here moving forward. 19 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think for a lot of these guys, you know, 20 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 2: particularly in that position, but really from uh, from any position, 21 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: to jump from you or one to year two physically 22 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 2: is is huge. There's there's more opportunity there. They're now 23 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 2: in a position to go and train year round, if 24 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: you want to call it that, not worrying about running 25 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 2: a forty, not not worrying about you know, some of 26 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 2: these things that you're never ever going to do again 27 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: once you leave Indy. So now you're you're preparing your 28 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: body for those extra months to go and play football. 29 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: Uh So, for for all these rookies that are going 30 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 2: into you year two next year, I think they all 31 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 2: have a tremendous opportunity to go and get bigger, stronger, 32 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: uh and and and get themselves ready to go play 33 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 2: a full NFL season. I think that's another thing, is 34 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 2: it's the seasons long for these guys coming and playing 35 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: however many games. You know, it's it's it's a big difference, 36 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: you know, coming here and having to go from call 37 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: it the middle of July until hopefully February, you know 38 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 2: what I mean. So, uh, being able to mentally understand 39 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: kind of what what you need to do in order 40 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: to get your body ready to do that is also 41 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 2: is just as important as as the physical part of it. 42 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 2: So there's definitely, you know, room for for growth there 43 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 2: in terms of his ability to go and get bigger 44 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: and stronger. But I would say that's the case for 45 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: the majority of these rookies. 46 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: Awesome to have a step in a few different times 47 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: this year, Center, What what's has anything change is in there? 48 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: How valuable is it maybe to have a guy who 49 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: you can. 50 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: Just yeah, it's great. You know, he's he's done a 51 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: great job being able to go and and step in 52 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 2: and like we said last week with you know, with 53 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 2: these offensive linement a lot of times the biggest compliments 54 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 2: that you don't notice them. And and he's done. He's 55 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,679 Speaker 2: done a great job of of not only going and 56 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: executing uh, you know, his individual job, but really kind 57 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 2: of driving the ship. Up front. We put a lot 58 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 2: on the Center's plate and kind of set the table 59 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: for everybody else and we have them missed beat. 60 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: With Jackson, just what's been the most impressed from just 61 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: you working with them now? 62 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 3: What's been the most impressive part of his growth from 63 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 3: when you started to this point. 64 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if there's one thing I think, uh, 65 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 2: you know, every time he takes the field, he's he's 66 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 2: getting better in a certain area. He's done a great 67 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: job as a rookie of not really exposing the football. 68 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: Hopefully we continue that on on Sunday. But but his demeanor, 69 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 2: his instincts, his ability to see things is really unique. 70 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: So so you know, being able to get to kind 71 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 2: of know him a little bit better and work with 72 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 2: him a little bit more, you're able to kind of 73 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: see those things that that you may not notice if 74 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: if you weren't you know, working closely with him. 75 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 1: You say ability to see things. What you mean by that. 76 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: Instinctually being able to go and see the field leverage, coverage, 77 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: you know, different tells things along those lines. He's got 78 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: a great feel for space, so knowing when when can I, 79 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: you know, jam this ball in there, or when do 80 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: I have to pull off? And yeah, there's just certain 81 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 2: things where you know, some people may have to wait 82 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 2: to see somebody open, and people can anticipate it because 83 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 2: they can feel the space. And you know, I think 84 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 2: he's one of those guys who can feel that space. 85 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 3: Obviously, as the office the coordinate, you're probably a little 86 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 3: more direct relationship or you know, working relationship with the 87 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 3: quarterback groom. You could see more of like how how 88 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 3: they operate as a whole. What have you learned about 89 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 3: about that room in the last few weeks with you, you know, 90 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 3: stepping into a road where you probably work more directly 91 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 3: within that. 92 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of personality in that room, and 93 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: that's a good thing. 94 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 3: Uh. 95 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 2: You know, Jackson has been very fortunate to have two 96 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 2: vets that I played at a high level that I've 97 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: seen a lot that have been in different systems to 98 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 2: provide insight, to provide guidance and and to give opinions 99 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 2: on on certain things. And and it allows you to 100 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 2: go and have discussions and and uh kind of kind 101 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 2: of open up your eyes to there's more the you know, 102 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: the one way to do things, and that that's been 103 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 2: the biggest thing I think. You know, both Jamis and 104 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 2: and Russ have have just a great knowledge and and 105 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: it's different than you know, they've played at a high level. Right, 106 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 2: They've won a lot of games, thrown a lot of touchdowns, 107 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: you know, un Uss has won a Super Bowl. So 108 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 2: being able to draw on that experience, you know what 109 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 2: it looks like, what it's supposed to look like is 110 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 2: you know, not only for Jackson but me individually, has 111 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: been has been great to just kind of kind of 112 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 2: going and having conversations with them what they see and 113 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 2: and and really just being able to kind of draw 114 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 2: on their wealth and knowledge has been has been great. 115 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 3: How much does that help you think that they have there? 116 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 3: He has two different perspectives right too. Yeah, it's not 117 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 3: just one guy, it's two veterans. 118 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 2: And I think that's great. And I think Jackson is 119 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 2: a unique individual in his own sense. And I think 120 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: he's able to kind of filter out, you know, what 121 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: what he needs right and and and what's helpful for 122 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 2: him and and again, I think that's just the testament 123 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: to the type of person he is, you know, his 124 00:05:55,520 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: emotional intelligence. But but he's again, he's he's been very 125 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: fortunate to have those two in the room with him, 126 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 2: and I think he's grown from it. 127 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: Tight ends your primary focus to start the year and 128 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: got the year says some drops like Darius and says 129 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: some drops. As a coach, how do you like the professionals? 130 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, then how to do is 131 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: how do you coach that? How do you prote a guy? 132 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: Maybe he's going through that. 133 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you look and see what Hey, what 134 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 2: what's the issue with the drop? Is it hand placement? Uh? 135 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 3: Is it? 136 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: Is it timing? Is the ball on him before he 137 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 2: thinks it's supposed to be? Is he not ready? For 138 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: the throw is he is he you know, should you 139 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 2: flip his hands? And then sometimes it's just you know, 140 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 2: kind of giving him a remind or like you're you're 141 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 2: pretty freaking good, right, and being able to show him 142 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 2: examples of them being able to go and make those 143 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 2: types of tough catches. But but if it's a fundamental 144 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 2: issue being able to go and try and emu or 145 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 2: replicate those drops in practice in terms of the situations 146 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 2: they were in and and be able to hammer it 147 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 2: and okay, well you know this is what you did 148 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 2: last time. Let's go and make sure you gets hands 149 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 2: flipped and and just try to recreate that situation so 150 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: the next time it comes out there they're able to 151 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 2: make the play. 152 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 3: What do you think it is when you look at 153 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 3: THEO specifically. 154 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: I think some of them are uh, you know, timing issues, 155 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 2: And I would say probably the you know, the I 156 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: think he had two against San Francisco, ball was on 157 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 2: probably before he thought he was it was, it was 158 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 2: going to be on him. And then you know some 159 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: of those like that, you look at the play in 160 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 2: New England and in the play in Philly, He's going 161 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 2: to make those catches for sure. They would have been 162 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,559 Speaker 2: great plays, but the expectation is that he makes them. 163 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 2: Uh so, being able to track the ball when it's 164 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: in there and being able to tie up basically his 165 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 2: ability to go and pluck the football as opposed to, 166 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 2: you know, waiting for it to get to him. 167 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: What's the next step in his development? 168 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 2: I would say, I would say, you know, playing consistently 169 00:07:55,720 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 2: with the confidence that that you know he has and 170 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 2: his ability to do that day in and day out, 171 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: from from the first day, from the first play to 172 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: the last play, is you know, something that's going to 173 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 2: be able to take him to the upper echelon and 174 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 2: titans in this league. 175 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 3: How important do you think it was for Jackson? I mean, 176 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 3: obviously didn't have his best three weeks previously. To finish 177 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 3: the season strong and be able to kind of take 178 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 3: that and move forward and. 179 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 2: Shorts next year, Yeah, I think not only for him, 180 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 2: but for everybody. I think you want to make sure 181 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: that you know you're finishing strong and you're playing your 182 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 2: best football at the end of the season. So individually, 183 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 2: for him, for sure, that's important, but I think for 184 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 2: the entire team and everybody involved with the team, that's 185 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: really important.