1 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: Kid you not. We've had this beautiful studio for like 2 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 1: half the year. Now, first time I've ever turned to 3 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: eat on. I've just been cold all day. Started the 4 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: day in New York City. A lot of you saw 5 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: us do get up this morning. Pleasure, Pleasure was all 6 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: ours to be there in Nashville. Now got to go 7 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: to Atlanta later tonight, got a big day, got a 8 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: big weekend in Atlanta. I'm not asking you to feel 9 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: sorry for me. I'm just asking you to feel a 10 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: little bit sorry for me. It is Thursday, it is 11 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: December fourth, the year of our Lord, twenty twenty five. 12 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: Jam packed that hold on. That is the sound of 13 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 1: a stack of papers, the likes of which we could 14 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: only have in front of us. With conference championship weekend 15 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: and maybe just college football playoff chaos weekend on the horizon, Yes, 16 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: college football playoff. It's the talk of the town, Jesse. 17 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: Have you noticed talk of several towns. Albany, Georgia, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, 18 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: two of the places they're watching this tonight. I'm gonna 19 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: talk about it at a lot of different angles. We're 20 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: gonna have cublic on Noil later. Of course, we're gonna 21 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: dive back into Ohio State, Indiana, Georgia, Alabama. I've got 22 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: some swinging theories about the committee itself, but we'll talk 23 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,199 Speaker 1: about all that. I got a couple of big announcements. 24 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: It's just it is a monumentally big time around the show. 25 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: We surpass five hundred subs the other night on air 26 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: hoops to the thunket. So thank you guys so much. 27 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: Talk about the live show more a little bit later. 28 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: They're watching us, like I said, in Albany, Georgia, but 29 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: probably Albany, New York, Harrisburg, PA, Flagstaff, Arizona, and Katie, Texas. 30 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: All right, mentioned a big announcement. Lock in on me 31 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: for a second. There are several big things happening around here, 32 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: but I would argue none bigger than what we're about 33 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: to do this Saturday SEC Championship Georgia versus Alabama, four 34 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: o'clock Eastern time kickoff there in Mercedes Benz Stadium in Atlanta, Georgia, 35 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: carried proudly on ABC. However, I can proudly announce that 36 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: if you take that remote control flip over to ESPN, 37 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: you'll see for the first time ever, yours truly, along 38 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: with Taylor Lawant and Will Compton and Harry Douglass providing 39 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 1: you an altcast right there on the field. The four 40 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: of us will be live on big ESPN. Not that 41 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: there's a small one, but big ESPN, the four letters 42 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: as big as it gets. Mike's in hand, live cameras. 43 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: Anything can happen, hopefully a really good football game. What 44 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: an incredible privilege. A big, big thanks to Pat McAfee 45 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: and his folks for making that happen. Big thanks to 46 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: ESPN for making that happen. Now we just have to 47 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,839 Speaker 1: make it happen. But really, the pressure's not on us, 48 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,119 Speaker 1: Caitlin de Bor, Kirby Smarter, you listening. The pressure's really 49 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: on you, guys. We're just there to narrate. You paint 50 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: the picture, we'll describe it. I would humbly suggest that 51 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 1: you guys check us out. We may not do a 52 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: half bad job Saturday. I'm gonna have a lot of 53 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: fun with that. Okay, let's dive in, I tweeted out 54 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: earlier today. I think that we've got some room for 55 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: mail bag. I mean, we've broken down the games already, 56 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: so everyone's talking about all sorts of different things, I said, 57 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: Jesse dial up the mail bag, give me what the 58 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: people are asking. I put the tweet out. He picked 59 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: out the best replies. Let's start with this. Richard East Lansing, 60 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 1: Michigan said, I'm a Michigan State fan. I just want 61 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: the college football playoff picture to burn. What should I 62 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: root for? 63 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: Richard? 64 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: I understand where you're coming from. There, Brighter days are ahead. 65 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: Congrats on the hire of Pat Fitzgerald. You're going to 66 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: right a lot of wrongs over the past few years. 67 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: So Richard, you just want calamity. You're hurting. Richard says 68 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: he's hurting, he's bleeding. He wants others to bleed along 69 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: with him. It's an unhealthy mentality, but I respect you 70 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: for being honest about it. Here's what you want to 71 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: root for. Clearly, to me, the biggest chaos mechanism in 72 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: this whole thing is not pictured on the graphic Bradley 73 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: is showing you. What do you mean, did Bradley punch 74 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: the wrong graphic? 75 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 2: No? 76 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: Not this time. No, he never does. But Duke's not 77 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: top twenty five because Duke's not a top twenty five team, 78 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: nor a top thirty five team. But they are playing 79 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: in the ACC Championship. Game Saturday, and so Richard, I 80 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: would suggest to you the biggest chaos maker would just 81 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: be Duke winning the ACC championship. Now, for those of 82 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: you who don't really pay attention to odds, Duke's a 83 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: three and a half point dog. That's it against Virginia. Humbly, 84 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 1: I would lean Virginia in the game. But if you're 85 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: rooting for chaos, you don't want to lean favorite, Richard, 86 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: you want to lean underdog. Now here's why that matters. 87 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: As we know, as most of us know, I've got 88 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: to assume someone's kind of coming back. Because you only 89 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: pay attention come playoff time. This is no way to live. 90 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: By the way. You need to be locked in from 91 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: week one. But if you are one that just came 92 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: in from the countryside because you heard the playoff horn sound, 93 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: remember what the rules are and remember what the rules 94 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: aren't With the playoff, the rule is not all the 95 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: power for conference champs get in the playoff. Even though 96 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: an alarmingly high percentage of the the public believes that's 97 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: the case, that is not the case. The rule is 98 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: the five highest ranked conference champs period get auto bids, 99 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: and then seven at large teams get auto bids now 100 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,799 Speaker 1: or not autobids, they get a yeah at large bids. 101 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: It was always assumed by people, including me, that we've 102 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: only got four Power conferences. If you're giving five spots 103 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: to the highest ranked conference champs, surely anyone good enough 104 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: to win a Power for conference is going to be 105 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: among the five highest ranked conference champs. Most years, it 106 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: would be a slam dunk. It would be a no brainer. 107 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: This is not that year. If Duke wins this thing, 108 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: there is sure to be one G five champ ranked higher. 109 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: I don't even care who wins the American either team 110 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: will be ranked higher. And there is a distinct possibility 111 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: if jmu if James Madison just wins as a three 112 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 1: plus touchdown favorite against Troy, there will be two G 113 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 1: five champ ranked higher than Duke, which means Richard the 114 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: ACC champs out, which kicks in the ACC doomsday scenario 115 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: that the Committee could find themselves facing, and that would 116 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: be where the dust settles on Conference Championship Saturday. They 117 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: come in in the wee hours of Saturday night Sunday morning, 118 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: and they've got to figure out their rankings, and they've 119 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: got them all sorted out, except they realize oh, oh, 120 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: we put all the conference champs in. There's no ACC 121 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: in there. We've got a conundrum on our hands. Are 122 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: we going to be able to put an ACC team in? 123 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: And that's where we have to find out what Brigham 124 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: Young did. You're gonna have to follow me here. Brigham 125 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: Young's not in the ACC. But here's what I'm thinking, Richard. 126 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: What I'm thinking. The committee will never admit it. But 127 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: what I'm thinking is if they do get to that rubicon, 128 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: they may be willing to cross it and put Miami in. 129 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 1: And here's what would help them. What would help them 130 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: is if Brigham Young loses and they drop out of 131 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: the way and it's just Miami versus Notre Dame right 132 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: next to each other. I think some minds can change 133 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: at the eleventh hour in that room about how they 134 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: value head to head, and I think it would be 135 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: enough to catapult Miami over Notre Dame and put them 136 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: in the playoff to represent the ACC. Is it supposed 137 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: to work that way? Of course not. We've long since 138 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: stopped caring about how it's supposed to work around here. Frankly, 139 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: none of us even know. I mean, do you watch 140 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: the playoff committee reveal on Tuesday night. Do you hear 141 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: those ridiculous explanations? So that's one thing. Here's another thing. 142 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: I just mentioned the concept of Brigham Young losing. It's 143 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: chaos potentially whether they win or they lose, Richard, So 144 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: you just root for the Big twelve championship game. You 145 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: can be like Rob Low. You just put on a 146 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: Big twelve hat instead of the NFL hat. Because if 147 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: Brigham Young wins Saturday, then they're going to the playoff. 148 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: They'll be one of the five highest rint conference champs. 149 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: They're going to the playoffs, so is Texas Tech. That 150 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: means two Big twelve teams in the playoff, which we 151 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: didn't plan on, and that means someone's got to fall out. 152 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: That someone is, in all likelihood Notre Dame. That would 153 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: be a mess. Now, there are some people out there 154 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: who believe, no, it doesn't have to be that way. 155 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: Alabama could get blown out in their conference championship game 156 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: and they drop out. I have to see that to 157 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: believe it. First off, because I don't think the Maama's 158 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: gonna get blown out even if they lose. Secondly, even 159 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: if they do, even if it's thirty five to ten, 160 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: I don't think the committee's dropping them out, but for 161 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: reasons that I'll talk about in just a second. But 162 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: if Notre Dame is sitting there and they watch Brigham 163 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: Young lose, it's not cause for celebration quite yet either, because, 164 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 1: like I just said, five minutes ago, three minutes ago, 165 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: a Brigham Young win and they're in and Notre Dame's out. 166 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: A Brigham Young loss, then you start asking how bad 167 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: does Brigham Young have to lose for the committee to 168 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: drop them, because the Committee, generally speaking, is not in 169 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: the business of punishing you for losing a conference championship 170 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: game when everyone else is sitting home. Like I firmly 171 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: believe that, but look at him sitting right there at 172 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 1: number eleven as well as I do. The Big twelve 173 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: is not respected in that committee room as much as 174 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: the Big ten in the SEC. So while I sit 175 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: in here and confidently say Alabama can get blown out 176 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: and I don't think they're dropping out, I can't say 177 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: that for Brigham Young. Also, it wouldn't pain the committee 178 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: nearly as much to drop them, because they're already not 179 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: in the playoff to begin with. You drop Bama, you 180 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: would be dropping them out of the playoff. Brigham Young 181 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't have been in the playoff unless they win their conference. 182 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: But if they drop them just one spot, that puts 183 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: Miami in Notre Dame head to head in that conversation 184 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: could get interesting, especially pending Duke or Duke's outcome. The 185 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,719 Speaker 1: third thing is I think the same thing applies to Alabama, 186 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: not in the same sense. Okay, I just told you 187 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: I think Bama's in either way. If they lose, We're 188 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: gonna find out how much it's possible to be penalized 189 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: for losing a major premiere Power two conference championship game. 190 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: Power two is a classification of college football that doesn't 191 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: officially exist, much like Area forty nine or fifty one 192 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: Area forty nine. I don't know maybe where the real 193 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: secrets are at, but it's not supposed to be power 194 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: to but it really is. We're gonna find out how 195 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: much you can get punished for losing that game. We 196 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: already talked about that. What happens if Bama wins blowout game, 197 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 1: close game. They're number nine right now. I've heard some 198 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: people I respect who have said they don't think Bama 199 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 1: can jump up past number five, and I completely disagree. 200 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: Not only do I disagree, I think if they win 201 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: by one point over Georgia, they're gonna be a top 202 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: four seed and have a first round by Again, I 203 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: just want to remind you to suggest anything other than 204 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: that would be to be telling the SEC's one seed. 205 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: Even though they're ranked behind Georgia, they are technically the 206 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: one seed. You just won the conference as the one seed, 207 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: but we're not gonnavault you up there. Instead, what we're 208 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: gonna do is a side note, how far do they 209 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: drop Georgia. Is that gonna be a world where Georgia 210 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: doesn't drop out of the top four, Bama doesn't rise 211 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: into the top four, and in the ad it's just 212 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: Texas Tech that sits there, or or what could happen. 213 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: Just on the flip side of that is the committee 214 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: agrees with me, and so Ohio State and Indiana are 215 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: gonna be one two either way. Georgia is either three 216 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: or four either way, because they're not gonna drop them 217 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: much at all, even if they lose and they Bama up. 218 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 1: And look what that gives us at the end of 219 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: the day. It gives us what we were penciling in 220 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: here a month ago. The big ten champ, the Big 221 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: ten runner up, the SEC champ, and the SEC runner 222 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: up as having the first round buys the alternative there 223 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: or the I guess the counter there is, well, what 224 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: about Texas Tech? I don't know. That's why we're speaking 225 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: in hypotheticals. What I don't think is gonna happen is 226 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: I don't think Oregon is going to jump up there 227 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: in the top four at the expense of Alabama not 228 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: jumping up there if they win the conference. That's what 229 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: I don't think will happen. So, yeah, there's there's a 230 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: lot stort out here, Richard. I think it's gonna be 231 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: a good weekend for you, but it has not been 232 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 1: a good month for you. But I think it'll be 233 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 1: a good weekend, especially Richard, if you stop by Quick Trip. 234 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: Not mandatory, but you admitted it yourself. Live Spin kind 235 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: of poor. Is of late Live Spin on the skids 236 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 1: a little bit. And it's not your fault, Michigan State fan. 237 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 2: It's not your fault. 238 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: But you do control certain things, Richard. One of them 239 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: is where do you get your cold brew? You could 240 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 1: get it on tap at quick Trip. You could fuel 241 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: up at Quick Trip, you could fuel up the tummy 242 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: at Quick Trip as well. They are our ride or 243 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: Die partner. They're going to be on hand at the 244 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: live show tomorrow night in Atlanta. It could be tonight, 245 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: depending on when you're listening to or watching the show. 246 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: I love them. I don't say it enough, and it's 247 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: not Look, this is the ad copy they give me. 248 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: It says QT that's it. So I just roll with it, 249 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: and fortunately they trust me to do that, and I 250 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: just sometimes have to say I love them and I 251 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: Quick Trip Joe. I don't tell you that enough, Bud, 252 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: but I love you, and so does our audience, especially 253 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: the one you give free guess to tomorrow night. Thank 254 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: you in advance. Maybe I'll be one. We had another 255 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: thing about the playoff that I wanted to hit out 256 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: of the whole batch that Jesse sent me. Kyle Knoxville, Tennessee. 257 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: He said, I need the commissioner to help us. How 258 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: would you fix the college football playoff? Now, hold on 259 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: a second, hold it, hold it, hold it, Kyle. It's 260 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: not the first time that you have presented a submission 261 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: to the show. That you have contributed to the mailbag. 262 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: I appreciate it, but we happen to have record of 263 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: your submissions. You are an expansionist, Kyle. It's okay. I 264 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 1: fought against it, you fought, you beat me, you won 265 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: fair and square. Why does it need to be fixed? 266 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: You got what you wanted, didn't you. Oh you mean 267 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: it's not perfect out here? And imagine this, Kyle. Imagine 268 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: if a year and a half or two years ago 269 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 1: you would have seen this situation right now. What situation 270 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: is that, I'll tell you. The situation is you got 271 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: the expanded playoff you wanted at the expense of what 272 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: I wanted, and now you're asking me how to fix 273 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: the thing that you got that you wanted. And listen 274 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: to this, Kyle. I'm going to be the one to 275 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: tell you. I don't think it's broken. There are mechanisms 276 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: of it that I would love to overhaul, namely the 277 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: entire way the committee operates. But I don't think the 278 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: thing's broken at all. What's your evidence that it's broken? 279 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: Kyle's not alone on this. I know a lot of 280 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: you think the playoffs messed up. So do you think 281 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: the Committee's messed up? Or do you think the playoffs 282 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: messed up? I guess that's the first thing, because we 283 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: could fix the committee by just getting a new committee 284 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: or by redefining the process of the committee, but keep 285 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: the playoff the same. When I'm thinking playoff, I'm thinking 286 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: format and size. That's what I'm thinking. And if you're 287 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: saying it's messed up, that means we need to change 288 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: the bracket. And I don't think we need to. So 289 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: if you do think we need to, if you do 290 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: think it's messed up and it needs to be fixed, 291 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: what's wrong with it? That's my question. And my prediction 292 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: is people are going to talk about Texas, and they're 293 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: going to talk about Vanderbilt. They're going to talk about 294 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: Brigham Young. They may talk about Alabama. If Alabama were 295 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: to lose Saturday and they get left out, Notre Dame 296 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: absolutely could get left out of this thing. But my 297 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: question is, how does that prove there's anything wrong with it? 298 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: That doesn't prove there's anything wrong, that proves someone's upset 299 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: because they didn't make the playoff. But you see children 300 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: crying all the time at your local daycare. Just because 301 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: the kids crying doesn't mean anything's wrong. Sometimes kids cry 302 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: because kids pitch fits all the time, just because people 303 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: are upset. In college football, doesn't necessarily mean anything's wrong 304 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: with it. It's not necessarily evidence in and of itself, 305 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: then anything's wrong with it. So if you do think 306 00:15:56,200 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 1: that there's evidence just because Vandy's upset, they're not in 307 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: Texas or Miami is upset there or not? And if 308 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: you think that alone is evidence, well what do you 309 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: want to do? What's your answer? Is your answer to 310 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: expand it more? A lot of people think that, a 311 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: lot of people think, oh, we'll solve all these problems 312 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: if we expand to sixteen. Of course you won't completely 313 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: flawed logic, of course you won't. But walk me down 314 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: that road. What do you need? Do you just need 315 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: five plus nine? Like? Do we go from five plus 316 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: seven to five plus or I guess it would be 317 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: five plus eleven? Is that what we would do? Would 318 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: that be good? Would that solve it? Would you be 319 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: willing to swear under oath that'll take care of it? 320 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 2: No? 321 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: No, you won't, No, you won't. All that does is 322 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: slide the Overton window a little bit. You know, there 323 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: was a time not too long ago where we had 324 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: a four team playoff, and a time before that where 325 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: we had a two team playoff, and any of us 326 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: in those eras would have looked down the road and 327 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: laughed hysterically at the concept of us debating which team 328 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: in the country should be eleven and which should be 329 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: ten at the end of the year. You know why 330 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: would laugh at it, because we would be looking at 331 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: it and properly saying, do any of those teams in 332 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: that cluster really deserve to play for a national championship? 333 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: Do they deserve it? Not saying could they get granted 334 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: an opportunity, but do they deserve it? Like, do they 335 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: have a legitimate gripe that they have met the baseline requirement, 336 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: They've met the threshold that it should take to compete 337 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: for a title. You would have laughed at yourself. But 338 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: we moved the Overton window of what is and isn't 339 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: acceptable as we expanded the playoff, And then if we 340 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: expanded it again, we'd move it again, and sure enough 341 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: to be a team ranked nineteenth and you would be 342 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: up in arms, and someone would be saying, you know, 343 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: the big tens idea to go to twenty four wasn't 344 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: so bad. It would happen within a year or two years. 345 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 2: You know that. 346 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 1: Because many of you are making arguments that you would 347 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: have laughed at three or four years ago. So what 348 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: format do you want? How big does the playoff have 349 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: to be to be fixed? A lot of people want 350 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: to go to sixteen cause they say they don't want 351 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: first round buys, And to that, I say, I think 352 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: that's what those conference championship games are for. Like if 353 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: you ever want to balance out, Hey, why should we 354 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: want to play for a conference championship? Well, because it 355 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 1: could be that win or lose, as long as you 356 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 1: make that game, probably got a first round by coming up. 357 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: Ohio State and Indiana can say that. Maybe Georgia and 358 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: Alabama can say that if Bama wins, But you know 359 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: what Bama could have done taken care of business against 360 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: Oklahoma and then would be saying the same thing about 361 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: both of them. Don't matter whether you win to lose, 362 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna get a first round by anyway. One of 363 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: you's gonna take some hardware home. One of you's gonna 364 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: have more favorable positioning. I just I zoom out every 365 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: time I start to do this. I'm not being a 366 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: hypocrite here. I've complained about a lot this postseason. A 367 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: lot of mine's been more procedural, a lot of mine 368 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 1: has not so much had to do with the fact 369 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: that I think there's this egregious misranking. I do disagree 370 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: that Notre Dame's over Miami. That's small like it's a 371 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: complete open and shut slam dunk case. There are arguments 372 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: for Notre Dame. I just happen to believe the argument 373 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: for Miami over Notre Dame has more merit to it. 374 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: But that's not what I've trafficked in. What I've trafficked in, 375 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: if I've got a big gripe, is the procedure of 376 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: the playoff, the way the committee claims it operates versus 377 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: the way it really does operate, that sort of thing. 378 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: But I always try and take myself back to five, six, seven, 379 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 1: eight years ago, whatever. And I just pictured myself watching 380 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: a future version of myself, which is supposed to be 381 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: an older, wiser version. And what am I doing. I'm 382 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: sitting here, having watched Miami loose to Louisville and SMU 383 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: and I'm about to pound my fist on the table, 384 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: claiming they're getting screwed out of something they're not. There 385 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: are varying degrees of deservedness that teams have when it 386 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: comes to the playoff, and I think Miami deserves a 387 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,239 Speaker 1: spot over Notre Dame. They're not getting screwed. If they 388 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: don't make it in. They screwed themselves. It may be 389 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: a little unfair. It's just like if you're a three 390 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: touchdown favorite in a football game and it's deadlocked, it's even, 391 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: and it's twenty to twenty and it's fourth and goal, 392 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: and you think the ball carrier made the line the game, 393 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: but they call him short and then they go to 394 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: the replay and there's no camera angle, and so you think, 395 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: oh man, the refs just screwed us. The refs didn't 396 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: screw you. You were a three touchdown favorite for a reason. 397 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: It never should have come down to that. So do 398 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 1: I think Miami should get in the playoff? Absolutely? I do, However, 399 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: and I want to stop singling them out like Vanderbilt. 400 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: Do I think it's a shame that they're not going 401 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,719 Speaker 1: to get the playoff Texas? Do? They have a gripe, 402 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 1: of course, but the committee's not screwing them. They screwed themselves. 403 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 1: Texas don't go loose to Florida. Vanderbilt a little more 404 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: product of schedule than anything else. They've largely done the job. Miami. 405 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: Just mentioned those two games Alabama, not that I think 406 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: they should be left out, but the Oklahoma game. I mean, 407 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: you can't let that stuff happen and still claim to 408 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: have this orb, this protective orb around you. So if 409 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: you like opinions like that, boy, do I have news 410 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: for you Tomorrow night, Big Happenings. We are twenty four 411 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: hours away from our first ever live event in Atlanta, Georgia, 412 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: Buckhead Theater, seven o'clock start time, Friday night, SEC Championship 413 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: Game EVE. I know a lot of Georgia fans live there. 414 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: I know a lot of Bama fans will be in town. 415 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: Those are two of our biggest viewer bases, along with 416 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: Ohio State that we have on this show. And Ohio 417 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: State's not allowed to play in that game. So it's 418 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: up to you, guys. We got a couple of dozen 419 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: tickets left. This will sell out sometime during the day tomorrow. 420 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: Peatestatematerial dot com is where you can go to purchase 421 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: your tickets. Great romantic date night idea. Ladies of Peate 422 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: State welcome as well. But I want to emphasize this 423 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: is not a version of this show that we're doing live. 424 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: This is a completely different thing altogether. We got a 425 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 1: lot of special guests we have confirmed, for example, one 426 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: Cole Kublick will be joining us tomorrow night. One Taylor Lwan, 427 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: one Will Compton will be joining us tomorrow night. I'm 428 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 1: even told that Savannah State herself could be joining us 429 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: tomorrow night, as well as several other close personal friends 430 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 1: of the show whose names you would recognize, but we 431 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: haven't quite firmed down yet. But we'll be in the neighborhood. 432 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: This will be really fun. It'll be really fun. It'll 433 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: be sort of off the record. We're not broadcasting it 434 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 1: anywhere like this is a live ticketed event. It's for 435 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: our ears and eyes only, and a couple of dozen 436 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: tickets remain. Gonna have a lot of fun with it. 437 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: Highly encourage you guys to be there. Why do I 438 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: encourage you because it will make me feel good if 439 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: you're there, and we'd like to hang out with you 440 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: as much as possible. All right, let's roll on really 441 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: really hard hitting pressing question here in the mail bag, Bradley. 442 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: It goes without saying, I don't need an individual cut 443 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: from this question, but we have, for instance, over my 444 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: shoulder here that we have the Peate State Freight's logo, 445 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: the little circular logo. You see that we have a 446 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: train right in the middle of it. What is that? 447 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: I freely acknowledge that there are new viewers and new 448 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 1: listeners to the show every single show. And so you 449 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: see that and you're like, I guess that's just some 450 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: inside joke. I don't get it, but don't worry. They'll 451 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 1: talk about college football. I do understand that. Like, why 452 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: is there a Twister movie poster on the wall? Well, 453 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: I'll explain Twister some other time. But Peate State was 454 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: kind of a name we came up with to describe 455 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: our entire community here, our entire family, our entire army. 456 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: I don't think just a community gets five hundred thousand 457 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 1: subs across the finish line live on air Tuesday Night. 458 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: But then I thought to myself, we gotta have a name. 459 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: We gotta have a mascot. Peate State Frights kind of 460 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 1: rolls off the tongue. Some would say it rhymes and 461 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: we gotta have a mascot. Right, there's Chuggy right there. 462 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: Where do we come up with all that? 463 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 3: Well? 464 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: I love trains, I love trains. Have since I was 465 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: a kid. There are some things I've grown out of. 466 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: For example, I used to eat Vienna sausages all the 467 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: time as a kid. Can't stand them now, so I 468 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: grew out of that. I used to love eating play 469 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: though as well, and while I would still admit it 470 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: tastes good, my palette has matured and I don't eat 471 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: playdough anymore. But I loved freight trains, freight trains only, 472 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: no Amtrak here. Freight trains only I loved as a kid. 473 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 1: I still love them. I may love them even more 474 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: as an adult than I did as a kid. Let 475 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: me drop something along you one time. Emily Proud, who 476 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: we used to work with over at CBS, she asked 477 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: me one day, just straight dead serious, facius one, what 478 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: is it specifically about freight trains that fascinates you so much? 479 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: I said, firstly, logistics and power, those two things, but 480 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 1: also I think a manifest freight train, which is just 481 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 1: a bunch of random cars. That style of freight train. 482 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: It's really analogous to watching a person walk by you 483 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: in a crowd, Like if you're at a sporting event, 484 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna see tens of thousands of human beings that 485 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: you'll never see again in your life. Okay, it's gonna 486 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: sound insane, but this is how my mind works. If 487 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: you walk, if you watch someone walk by you, like 488 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: in a food court, in a mall or something like that, 489 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: that person came from somewhere. They're on their way somewhere. 490 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: They're carrying things, of course, figuratively inside them, inside their mind. 491 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: They've got passion, they've got talent, they've got scars, they've 492 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: got experiences, likes and dislikes, traumas, victories, They've got all 493 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: those things you'll never know because you never even said hey, 494 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 1: and then they just move on. I think the same 495 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: thing when I'm watching freight trains go by. I'm just 496 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: utterly fascinated. This box car right here. Where did it originate, 497 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 1: where does it terminate? What's its destination, what is it carrying? 498 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: Who's the manufacturer, who's the supplier, who's the client? Always 499 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: fascinated me. So we needed a mascot. We chose a train. 500 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: That's the story. There was a question, by the way, 501 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 1: I didn't mention that I bury the lead. Someone asked 502 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: why peyt State frights, Well, that's why. And on a 503 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: very very related note, This was wise of you, Jesse. 504 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: I see what you did here. You can go to 505 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: paintstatemterial dot com right now. Actually this sounds sort of 506 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 1: pathetic now that I think about it, but you know what, 507 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: we got to keep going. We got to keep going. 508 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: You can go to paintstatemterial dot com right now for 509 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: your Little Frights, which, as you probably guessed, is the 510 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: name of our children's line of clothing in the store, 511 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: and you could pick up some pate State Little Frights merch. 512 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: Right now. You may be thinking to yourself, Hey, where 513 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: I work, we can't wear novelty T shirts. Okay, it's 514 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 1: got to be blank, you know, kind of like I 515 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 1: wear here. But your kid, whether that kid is actually 516 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: alive right now or you have plans on a child 517 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: eventually being alive in your life, and congrats in advance. 518 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: By the way, that's how they should dress. All the 519 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: cool babies are dressing like that, and so look, I 520 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 1: don't want to tell your baby how to live his 521 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: or her life. I just want to tell you how 522 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: to dress them and pay State Little Freight's merch. Great 523 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: Christmas gifting idea, phenomenal. Jesse bought some Jesse bought some. 524 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: He looks terrible in it, but he bought some, and 525 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: I highly suggest that you do as well. Look, we're 526 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 1: gonna get cublic. I know he's standing right outside. I know. 527 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 1: I just want to remind you big consequential games this weekend. 528 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,239 Speaker 1: You get a FanDuel. You can bet it all. If 529 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,239 Speaker 1: you're not interested in betting, that is completely fine. If 530 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: you're on the fence about it, just think long and 531 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: hard about it before you do. Don't be betting any 532 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: money you don't have. This is for entertainment, so be 533 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: responsible with it. But you can just go over there 534 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: and look at the numbers, like, if you're interested Ohio 535 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: State Indiana, what is the number on the game? You 536 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: don't have to bet to go over there and see 537 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: that Ohio State's a four and a half to a 538 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: five and a half point favorite, depending on when you're 539 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 1: listening to me. But we got all kinds of stuff 540 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: over there. And if you are a new customer, and 541 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: this is anywhere, this isn't just the state of Missouri. 542 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: This is anywhere that it's legal, you can go. You 543 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: can bet five dollars and you can get one hundred 544 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: fifty dollars in bone bets. If that five dollars bet wins, 545 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: you can go bet oh, what's one Jesse. Off the 546 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: top of my head, you can go bet James Madison 547 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: just to win. Don't even have to lay the points 548 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: just to win. They're probably going to, if history is 549 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: any indication, get one hundred and fifty bonus bets just 550 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: for that. 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Jeremy Beds cublick on the 575 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: eve eve of the SEC Championship game, but just flat 576 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: out on the eve of what some are calling and 577 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: I'm reading it right here one of the bigger appearances 578 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: in your life Live show Tomorrow night Over in Atlanta. 579 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: Hope you're ready, Hope, You've prepared a lot of material 580 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: that I didn't tell you to prepare. Where's your head 581 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: at with this whole weekend coming up? 582 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 4: Uh, just you know, live audiences and things or something. 583 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 4: I'm just not used to. So that's gonna be a 584 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 4: whole new format for me. Not sure how the nerves 585 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 4: are gonna deal with it, but we're gonna do our best. 586 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 4: We're gonna try appreciate. 587 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: The shout out on Tuesday Date Night podcast. By the way, 588 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: the Live show got a shout out on Tuesday Date Night, 589 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: mainly from Catherine Tie. 590 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,239 Speaker 4: So that's how we get mentioned on this show. I'll 591 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 4: jef that down. 592 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: This is a straight barter system. It always has been, 593 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: it always will be, all right. So they're talking a 594 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: lot about conference championship games in the Big Ten, I 595 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,959 Speaker 1: mean the Big Ten. Obviously, those two I think it's 596 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: obvious those two teams are gonna be in. They're gonna 597 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: be first round bys. No matter how that shakes out. 598 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: Its just the order. SEC is a little bit different, 599 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: but broad strokes purposes. I don't think I've ever heard 600 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: more collective noise about the state of the future of 601 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: conference championship games. Now, I had you on the show 602 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: like five months ago, and we were talking about that. 603 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: We were all the way back at SEC media days, 604 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: kind of just trying to look across the landscape and 605 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: see how much longer is this world of conference championship games. 606 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: I think if they crystallize their value, they'll always have 607 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: a place. That's why I think this weekend and the 608 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: SEC is a really big test and it's kind of 609 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: a two way thing for Bama. It actually doesn't involve 610 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: Georgia at all to me because they're in win or lose. 611 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: But with Alabama, I know you chopped this up all 612 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: week like I have lose, and I still say they've 613 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: got to be in When this may even be it's 614 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,959 Speaker 1: not quite as interesting, but almost as interesting as if 615 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: they lose. I think if they win, they got to 616 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: get one of those first round by spots. Otherwise, you 617 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: just told your top overall seed by seedings purposes in 618 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: the SEC that you just won our conference championship. But 619 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna put a third Big Ten team in the 620 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: top four that sat at home on conference championship Saturday. 621 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: So we'll get to the game in a second, but 622 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: just general thoughts on where we are on conference championship structure. 623 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, you mentioned showing their value. I might look at 624 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 4: this as from the other side, the opposite end of that, 625 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 4: as to if this is shown to harm specifically one 626 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 4: of these SEC teams, what does the future of this 627 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 4: game look like and how quickly does it change. 628 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 2: Hypothetically, let's say the path you were. 629 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 4: Going to down there, Alabama drops this game, even if 630 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 4: it's ugly, even if it's you know, twenty one to three, 631 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 4: something along those lines, and they're left out. And I 632 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 4: ask you dead serious point, blaying, Josh, do we have 633 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 4: this game next year, or at least in the same format. 634 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 4: Do we have this game next year? Because I'm not 635 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 4: sure we do. I think things could change that rapidly 636 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 4: if it ends up costing the SEC a spot in 637 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 4: the College Football Playoff. I agree with you that they're 638 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 4: in no matter what, think they should be, specifically since 639 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 4: they beat this team on. 640 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 2: The road earlier this year. 641 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 4: But there are gonna be other intangibles, other variables that 642 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 4: are going to play into that. And then two, as 643 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 4: you mentioned, when it comes down to seating, it's only 644 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 4: gonna take one or two of these. I'll quote Brian 645 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 4: Kelly here, you only need one. It's only gonna take 646 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 4: one of these teams to be hurt from a seating standpoint, 647 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 4: or to actually be included. That it's not just the 648 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 4: SEC that we could potentially see some of these games 649 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 4: go away, and it's probably gonna be more towards the 650 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 4: protecting of the top of the league's as it is. Oh, 651 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,719 Speaker 4: we want to make sure that one of the teams 652 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 4: that's number four, five, six had the chance to play 653 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 4: their way into this tournament. I think things could change 654 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 4: rapidly if we see more harm than good done with 655 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 4: these games here in the next year or two. And 656 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 4: it could it might only take one this year for 657 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 4: that to change significantly. And you know, just like I do, 658 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 4: one of these leagues does it the others are gonna 659 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 4: follow immediately. 660 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, no, I completely agree with that. Like, there 661 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: could be a really, really violent shift. That's totally dependent 662 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: on how the committee handles this. All right, Bradley, For 663 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: future purposes, here's a good endpoint for you, Alabama Georgia 664 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: around two. The working theory is it's really hard to 665 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: beat a team a second time. I would argue it's 666 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: hard to beat a team like Georgia one time, especially 667 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 1: in their buildings. So Alabama did it. Then. I was 668 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: talking to some folks at Georgia earlier today say kind 669 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: of how do you guys feel? And the main takeaway was, 670 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: all right, Drew Bobo out starting center out. We can't 671 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: sugarcoat that. That's a huge loss for us. But remember 672 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: what we were missing the first time around against Alabama. 673 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: We were all banged up at our tackle spots. Pass 674 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: rush hadn't come on and yet, and then those lights 675 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: that were red are now kind of green, even though 676 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: you didn't see it last week. You hope that if 677 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: you need to put the game in gun or Stockton's hands, 678 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: he can get the job done. You just and this 679 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: is me talking now. I go back to last week 680 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: on the road playing the Iron Bowl. You get the 681 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 1: win if you're Alabama, but Auburn broke too defensively what 682 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: you would call pretty inexplicable explosives on you, and those 683 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: were yards after catch type explosives. And then I look 684 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: at what zachar Yah Branch could present in terms of problems. 685 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: Both teams are banged up. What's not funny. We were 686 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: talking about the committee earlier. What's funny is the losing 687 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: team could come out of this and weaponize the committee's 688 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: own protocol, their own stated protocol against them, and they 689 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 1: could say, well, you can't be punished in us. Man, 690 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,760 Speaker 1: we were banged up. We'll be healthy for the playoff, 691 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: you know, so we should have minimal punishment here. I 692 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: very very very slightly went Georgia in this game. I 693 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: did the first time. They lost on me the first time, 694 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna double dip on it and see if 695 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,720 Speaker 1: I'm right this time. I really think it's a close game. 696 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 1: Turnovers again, third down. Don't know if Bama's going thirteen 697 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: of nineteen again, know if George is going two of 698 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: eight again. Maybe a little progression and regression to the 699 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: mean there, but just a couple of bounds of ball 700 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: plays probably the difference. 701 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 2: To me. 702 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 4: Quickly, I'm just gonna note to write this down again. 703 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 4: You said the committee has and keeps protocol. 704 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: I let me rephrase, the committee has said some stuff loosely, 705 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: just making sure, Yeah, they would call that protocol. I'm 706 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: not gonna go that far. I'm gonna call it stuff. 707 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:29,399 Speaker 2: Got it. 708 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 4: I think stuff is a much more technically acceptable term 709 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 4: there for what we have seen this season. I like 710 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 4: where you're going with some of the scenarios that are 711 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 4: almost exact and premise of what these two teams have 712 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 4: shown to either be good at and then what they've 713 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 4: shown to give up. 714 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna take. 715 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 4: That a step further with you and go to a 716 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 4: couple more things go back to the LSU game for Alabama, 717 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 4: and I actually spoke to Kane Walmock after this game 718 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 4: and I said, is that the most you guys have 719 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,919 Speaker 4: moved all season? I haven't seen your defensive line beyond 720 00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:01,919 Speaker 4: the move that much And he said, oh, by long shot, 721 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 4: wasn't even close. Well, go back to the Auburn game 722 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 4: a couple of weeks later this past Saturday. That movement 723 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 4: cost them yards on a very consistent basis. Now, it 724 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 4: wasn't always the defensive line. Sometimes the nickel that was 725 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 4: supposed to be down and run support was out in coverage, 726 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 4: so there was some confusion other places. But especially with 727 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 4: those plus one quarterback runs. That was problematic at times 728 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 4: for the Alabama defense. What's Georgia gonna do? Plus one 729 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 4: quarterback runs? Flipped that around? Kane Wammack's vision defense is 730 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 4: based essentially in zone principles. Gunner Stockton did not see 731 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 4: coverage well when Georgia Tech played zone last week. 732 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 2: So here's what I'm struggling with, Josh. 733 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 4: Do we get caught just in the last week or 734 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 4: two or three, or do we look collectively where these 735 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 4: teams have been all season? Because you brought up the 736 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 4: last time that they met, I felt great about Alabama. 737 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 2: The last time these two teams met, felt pretty good 738 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 2: about Georgia. 739 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 4: Remember coming off that Tennessee game, we were like, I 740 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 4: know what Georgia is. My opinion hasn't changed, but my 741 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 4: opinion at Tennessee might be skyrocketing because we were probably 742 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,720 Speaker 4: a little bit down on them going into the season. 743 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 2: I was pretty high on Bama then. 744 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,800 Speaker 4: I don't know if I feel as good about Alabama 745 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 4: right now due to some of those offensive line struggles. 746 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,280 Speaker 4: This might not be five years ago Georgia front seven, 747 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 4: but it's turned into a pretty good front seven. 748 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 2: Christian Miller's making plays. 749 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 4: You got thirty three zero nine all finding ways to 750 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 4: get to the quarterback, and this Alabama offensive line has 751 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 4: just flat been inconsistent. So I would probably be with you, 752 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 4: even though I think there are strengths with both of 753 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 4: these teams that play into the weaknesses of the opposition 754 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,760 Speaker 4: depending on which side of the balls on the field. 755 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 2: I'll go more philosophical with you here. 756 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 4: From my last point, this whole Kirby smart Bama in 757 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:49,720 Speaker 4: his head thing can't last forever. 758 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 2: Right. 759 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 4: That's where I keep going with this is there's no 760 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 4: way that that's just going to continue down this path. 761 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 2: Kirby Smart's too good of a coach. Kirby Smart has too. 762 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 4: Good And it's not that Alabama doesn't have good players 763 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 4: or Caitlyn de Bores not a good coach, but this 764 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 4: isn't gonna continue. It just isn't like college football history 765 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,879 Speaker 4: doesn't say that one of the greatest to ever live 766 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,319 Speaker 4: just couldn't do this for a very extended period of time. 767 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,399 Speaker 4: So I think that potentially is another part of why 768 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 4: this reverse is. And I'm with you. In a game 769 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 4: that I could probably see going twenty different ways, I'll 770 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:26,720 Speaker 4: take Georgia to sneak it out. 771 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 1: They dropped a stat on me this morning that really 772 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: hit me in the face. The trivia question was which 773 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,720 Speaker 1: SEC head coach has lost the most SEC championship games 774 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 1: in the history of the game, which dates back to 775 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: ninety two. So the answer was Kirby. Now, the side 776 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 1: note to that is you know you have to get 777 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 1: there to lose them. But then I was looking at 778 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,720 Speaker 1: that graphic there, so I guess Ricked okay, Ricked had three, 779 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 1: Fulmer had three, I think Spurriyer had three. They were 780 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:53,720 Speaker 1: all tied and then. 781 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 2: Kirby's going to guess Spurrier. 782 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, Kirby's got like four or five point being 783 00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 1: three of them are to Alabama. So you can even 784 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: take the trivia a step further. Kirby's got more SEC 785 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 1: Championship game losses just to Alabama than at the end 786 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 1: of the coach has in the history of the conference 787 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 1: playing anyone, one and seven all the time. Yeah, I 788 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 1: agree with you. I've never even thought about it like that. 789 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: I know it's very popular in Alabama circles to talk 790 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,839 Speaker 1: about it, you know, the same way Bama folks talk 791 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: about playing on a road at Jordan Hare Stadium like 792 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 1: it's a curse. It's just a mental block. It's just 793 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: blocking and tackling an execution, and the other team happens 794 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 1: to have done it better than you. You know, maybe 795 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 1: a little justin Field's fake punt every now and then, 796 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 1: a little bit of head scratcher, but in general, I 797 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, but there's nothing. I think. The only 798 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: thing that would probably shock me is the blowout scenario, 799 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,879 Speaker 1: and that's just because I never see it between these two, 800 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: So that's all that would surprise me. 801 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna one more real quick put this in 802 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 4: my journal, made note Josh had never thought of before got. 803 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,320 Speaker 1: It, never thought of the blowout. 804 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I will say the health you brought up probably 805 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 4: like lt Overton yesterday, seeing his status for this game. 806 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 4: I think that kind of came out of nowhere. Bama 807 00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 4: was a little bit dinged up. Not that George is 808 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 4: completely healthy across the board. You mentioned Drew Bobo, But 809 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 4: does that kind of catch up. And I don't know 810 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 4: if you can institute this into your team this way, Josh, 811 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 4: but Alabama probably needs the extra week more than Georgia 812 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 4: right now. Not that either team wants the extra game. 813 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 4: But if you're looking at health top to bottom, you 814 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,800 Speaker 4: go back to two weeks ago when now Bama plays 815 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,839 Speaker 4: that non con game and let us weekend, Bernard sits out, 816 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 4: brailsforst sits out. I mean, now what you're seeing on 817 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 4: the injury report, you're probably sitting there thinking to yourself, 818 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,280 Speaker 4: if we could get that bye week, that would be massive. 819 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 4: How do you inject that into your team though, and 820 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 4: say this game's more important so you can have a rest. 821 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 2: I just don't. 822 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 4: I don't know if guys buy into that or play 823 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 4: any differently that way. 824 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,319 Speaker 1: I just wrote down three numbers on my piece of paper, like, 825 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: all right, Isaiah Horton's doing his job, Jeremy Bernard has 826 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 1: done his job all year, Lotsier Brooks seventeen, he's come 827 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 1: on strong as of late. And they all got the 828 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 1: number two written down here. And I don't know anyone's 829 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: guess is as good as mine as to kind of 830 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,760 Speaker 1: what's happened to Williams. I think one of the most 831 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 1: shocked to the senses but not overly shocking type thing 832 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,800 Speaker 1: that could happen in this game Saturday, is all of 833 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 1: a sudden, he just re emerges, and if he does, 834 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 1: you like, I have not heard many people mention Ryan 835 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 1: Williams's name in this game breakdown because he really hasn't 836 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 1: done anything much as of late, but yet there he is, 837 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:21,879 Speaker 1: had a little bit of a hamstring thing all year, 838 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 1: but he's playing like he's on the field. That would 839 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 1: be the one thing where if we're at halftime and 840 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 1: he's got four catches for eighty three yards in a 841 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 1: touchdown already, you're going like, yeah, I just I don't 842 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: know that I expected that, which would be weird. Given 843 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 1: Ryan williams history against Georgia. 844 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 4: The reasoning that, I would say, well, first off, you 845 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 4: and I have had this conversation before. Nothing truly surprises 846 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 4: me in college football anymore because I feel like we've 847 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 4: just seen everything and always prepare for something bananas to. 848 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,320 Speaker 2: Take place at that position. 849 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 4: I do think it's more mental than people believe, specifically 850 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,280 Speaker 4: with the drops. It's not like this young man doesn't 851 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 4: know how to catch a football. It's not like he 852 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 4: hasn't caught one hundred thousand footballs in his lifetime. 853 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 2: He has, so, whether you want to relate. 854 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 4: It to a golfer with the yips, a baseball player 855 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 4: in a slump, whatever it is, somehow, some way, confidence 856 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 4: is what will bring this back. So if you get 857 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 4: him one on one early in this game and he 858 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,919 Speaker 4: makes a move and makes a circus at catch, does 859 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 4: a three sixty, gets out of it, and goes for 860 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 4: a seventy two yard touchdown, it wouldn't surprise me from 861 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 4: that point on. If Ty Simpson says, all right, let's 862 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 4: try him again, and it works, and it works and 863 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,319 Speaker 4: it works. Some of that will have to be with 864 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 4: Georgia managing coverage over him if he gets favorable matchups. 865 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 2: But I see that position like listen. 866 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 4: I'm I'm not trying to dog on receivers here, but 867 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 4: let's be honest. Do we view them as the most 868 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 4: mentally tough players on most teams? Probably not, Like do 869 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 4: we have certain guys in the past that were that, 870 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,240 Speaker 4: of course, Like there's no part of me that questioned 871 00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 4: Jamar Chase's mental toughness, Like I just don't think that 872 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 4: that it's a real thing, Like Calvin Johnson. I don't 873 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 4: question Randy Moss's mental toughness. 874 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:06,800 Speaker 2: So like a Marquise Mays. 875 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 4: I've heard Maceilroy tell stories about him, like, would never 876 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 4: question his mental toughness, but we know collectively it's probably 877 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,759 Speaker 4: not that across the board, which also tells me that 878 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 4: when something good goes their way, if that is the 879 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 4: hurdle that's in front of them, you can probably clear it. 880 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,280 Speaker 2: For good very quickly. 881 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 4: Whereas you get an offensive tackle, you gotta be mentally 882 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:29,799 Speaker 4: tough to even do the things that are asked to do. 883 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,239 Speaker 4: You get beat a couple times by say a Will 884 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 4: Anderson or a wit Weeks early in the game, you're 885 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,280 Speaker 4: probably done for the afternoon. Like you're not really bouncing 886 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 4: back from that because now you're constantly thinking about what's 887 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 4: going to be next, how it's gonna happen. I could 888 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:45,879 Speaker 4: see that position having a quicker mental bounce back than 889 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,240 Speaker 4: maybe a lot of others on the field. 890 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to go to the SEC Championship game. 891 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,759 Speaker 1: It says it sold out. That's never really true. You 892 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 1: can go to seat geek right now, enter the code 893 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,239 Speaker 1: paid ten. And the reason you want to do that 894 00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 1: is not just because we get credit for it. It's 895 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,800 Speaker 1: because you get ten percent off your order. Ten percent 896 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,919 Speaker 1: off that purchase of tickets to the SEC Championship Game. 897 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 1: Mind you would be a pretty significant chunk of change that, 898 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 1: of course you could theoretically then use at the Peyate 899 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 1: State Store. I don't want to tell you how to 900 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,760 Speaker 1: spend your money. I'm just saying it is the Christmas season. 901 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,439 Speaker 1: There are a lot of really really good looking gifts 902 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 1: over there. So seat geek if you're going to go 903 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 1: to the game, If you're buying tickets to anything, this 904 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 1: weekend could be big twelve, could be big ten. Just 905 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 1: make sure you go to seat geek first paid ten 906 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 1: at checkout. All Right, two weeks ago, we had you 907 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 1: on and we didn't really plan what we were going 908 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 1: to say we never planned what we're gonna say, but 909 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 1: we really, really really didn't plan that day, and we said, hey, 910 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 1: let's just kind of randomly say what's on our mind. 911 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 1: Imagine that, by the way, So I'm gonna hit you 912 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,799 Speaker 1: with one, and then I'll just hit the ping pong 913 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 1: ball over there and you can hit me with one. 914 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:50,800 Speaker 1: Everyone is looking at the fact that the ACC could 915 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,319 Speaker 1: potentially get a very very underwhelming team in here if 916 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 1: Virginia were to win the conference title. Everyone's looking at 917 00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 1: how pathetic the conference title matchup is to begin with. 918 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,360 Speaker 1: In the ACC. Everyone's talking about how outside of the SEC, 919 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,799 Speaker 1: in the Big ten, the landscape just looks void of 920 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:10,359 Speaker 1: premier teams, which is true. And yet I sit here 921 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,319 Speaker 1: and just zoom out for a second and say, wait 922 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,760 Speaker 1: a minute, are we really about to blame the ACC 923 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 1: for this? Are we gonna blame the Big twelve for this? 924 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:23,080 Speaker 1: Conference realignment, which none of us really liked when it happened, 925 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 1: is still the real culprit over in the corner. It's 926 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 1: just you got so tired of banging on conference realignment 927 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,839 Speaker 1: that you tried to look elsewhere. No, it's just conference realignment. 928 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 1: It's the reason why you've got teams in the ACC. 929 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:38,360 Speaker 1: I can't remember who it was. It may have been 930 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 1: Duke in Miami that had two common opponents in conference play, 931 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,400 Speaker 1: which is utterly insane. But you've also got high value 932 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 1: properties like Texas and Oklahoma. One will be in the playoff, 933 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,720 Speaker 1: the other swears they should be in the playoff. Neither 934 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 1: are in the Big twelve anymore, mind you. And so 935 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 1: I've got way way bloated conferences, and I've got most 936 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 1: of the prize proper ease, most of them in two conferences. 937 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,479 Speaker 1: And I don't know how I would ever do it again. 938 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 1: But man, if I could just take one of those 939 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:10,120 Speaker 1: little cookie cutters and it's like it's pre cut to 940 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,480 Speaker 1: give me all the conferences back, I would just like 941 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 1: to drop that thing down on the soft dough of 942 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 1: college football, because man, I'd love to be watching the 943 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,799 Speaker 1: Pac ten championship game Saturday night, sometime way way way 944 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:21,319 Speaker 1: after dark. 945 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,759 Speaker 4: I would even take Pac twelve championship game or Southwest 946 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,160 Speaker 4: Conference championship game. 947 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:29,239 Speaker 2: I'm with you. 948 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:30,719 Speaker 4: I think if we could all hop in that door 949 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 4: and go back in time, and you go pro wrestling, 950 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:38,279 Speaker 4: pre Vince McMahon and everybody has their regions, and then 951 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:39,879 Speaker 4: we figure out a way for them to go play 952 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 4: each other in the postseason, and that's how we determine 953 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 4: who's actually going to be there and they're going to 954 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 4: go play against one another. But we know what drives 955 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,480 Speaker 4: to sport now, and that's money. And the biggest difference 956 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 4: is there are certain brands, certain leagues, certain teams that 957 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,799 Speaker 4: can drive more eyeballs, get more eyeballs, therefore demand more money, 958 00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,719 Speaker 4: and they're only going to continue to pull away from that. 959 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,240 Speaker 4: The demand of being included, not just in this tournament, 960 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,480 Speaker 4: but in the NCAA tournament and other tournaments is only 961 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,120 Speaker 4: going to continue to rise. So I actually think as 962 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,680 Speaker 4: we sit here today, we're actually closer to that breakaway 963 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 4: than maybe we've ever been. I do feel like at 964 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,719 Speaker 4: times we kind of started to inch towards it, and 965 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 4: then people threw it out and said, nah, no, we 966 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:19,359 Speaker 4: could never do that. 967 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:20,600 Speaker 2: That's not going to work. To forget that. 968 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,400 Speaker 4: I think we're actually maybe full speed ahead at that 969 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,719 Speaker 4: right now. And when I hear more whispers of other 970 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 4: teams that are being discussed to go different places, it 971 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,840 Speaker 4: only makes me think that that big picture idea is 972 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,239 Speaker 4: probably closer than we think now. What I don't know 973 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 4: is that is there somebody sitting up in their throne 974 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 4: somewhere laughing at all of us, waiting for that to 975 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:42,760 Speaker 4: actually take place. 976 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:44,880 Speaker 2: I don't think that that plan is out there. 977 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 4: I don't think there's a commissioner, an individual that has 978 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 4: planned all this out and said, Okay, we get to 979 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,319 Speaker 4: X number of teams in these two leagues, that's when 980 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:52,880 Speaker 4: we run. 981 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:54,960 Speaker 2: That's when we take our ball and we go home. 982 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,920 Speaker 2: So who actually can make it happen? 983 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:02,319 Speaker 4: Is there one, two, ten individuals that have to step 984 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 4: up and say okay, now's the time we leave everybody 985 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 4: else behind. I know it's only ten percent, eleven percent, 986 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:12,520 Speaker 4: five percent, but five percent of a gigantic number is 987 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 4: still too much for us to share with you. 988 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 2: So we're not sharing anymore. Goodbye. 989 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,360 Speaker 4: And then, as you and I've also discussed, who steps 990 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,840 Speaker 4: up from the other leagues the rest of college football 991 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 4: and says here's our plan moving forward, That's what I 992 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,719 Speaker 4: don't hear anybody talking about, because I think we would 993 00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 4: all enjoy whatever you wanted to call it right now, 994 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 4: mid level college football, G five, whatever we've called it before, 995 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 4: for them to have a playoff you look at some 996 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 4: of those teams and how they're playing this year when 997 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,839 Speaker 4: we enjoy that. Absolutely, would it be competitive, Yes, would 998 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,839 Speaker 4: be compelling. Of course it would, and you strategically place 999 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 4: it around where the other games would be. I think 1000 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,720 Speaker 4: it could work. I think it would be self sustaining. 1001 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,479 Speaker 4: It would just have to be in a very different way. 1002 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,080 Speaker 4: So I'm kind of with you there, and it kind 1003 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,799 Speaker 4: of hurts my heart to talk about it because I 1004 00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,319 Speaker 4: do long for the days of staring out there at 1005 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,279 Speaker 4: the Pac twelve about how weak they were and the 1006 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,240 Speaker 4: SEC would dominate them, or the Big ten was slow 1007 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,120 Speaker 4: and there's no way they could keep up with the SEC. 1008 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,080 Speaker 4: And then we see those teams play and somebody's proved 1009 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 4: wrong one way or the other, like you can't run 1010 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,480 Speaker 4: the ball like we can up here, or what would 1011 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,440 Speaker 4: what would olemiss do if they had to play in 1012 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,160 Speaker 4: the cold and we have to go actually find that out. 1013 00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 4: Then they put up forty two points and it's like, Okay, 1014 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 4: that narrative is dead. We can just move on talk 1015 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:22,560 Speaker 4: about football again. 1016 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 1: By the way, I don't know if anyone's realized how 1017 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,480 Speaker 1: completely ridiculously frigid it is in the South, Like it's 1018 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,359 Speaker 1: gonna snow again in Nashville tonight. So we're looking at 1019 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 1: potential playoff games in Norman or Oxford or like maybe 1020 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,520 Speaker 1: Athens or somewhere like that. And it still keeps getting 1021 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 1: presented to me as SEC teams earning the right to 1022 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 1: play in warm weather climates. Buddy, in September, absolutely, it's 1023 00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,480 Speaker 1: gonna be freezing. It won't be as cold as it 1024 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,840 Speaker 1: would be in Madison, Wisconsin. But if anyone thinks players 1025 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 1: in Mississippi are going to be comfortable whenever that game 1026 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 1: kicks off, whatever day it is, against whoever it is 1027 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:04,000 Speaker 1: Vaught Hemingway Stadium, I don't check your ten day, check 1028 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,080 Speaker 1: your extended forecast every now and then. All right, I 1029 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 1: got another thing about the committee, But you can go 1030 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,320 Speaker 1: next hit me with whatever's on your mind. That's of relevance. 1031 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 4: I want to know from you where you view Indiana 1032 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:20,799 Speaker 4: right now, big picture, because I don't hear a lot 1033 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:24,239 Speaker 4: of people talking about them potentially I don't even need 1034 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,960 Speaker 4: you to say definitively potentially being the best team in 1035 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 4: college football. But as you know on the radio show 1036 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,560 Speaker 4: I do with Macro in the morning, we have a 1037 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,920 Speaker 4: computer formula that we plug in every week, and everybody's 1038 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,200 Speaker 4: eyes got real big today when we started going down 1039 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 4: these parameters of how you gain points in this system 1040 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:49,040 Speaker 4: of rush, offense, rush defense, event stuff, turnovers, which is 1041 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 4: go look at the turnover numbers, folks, penalties, and then 1042 00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,480 Speaker 4: third downs kind of even things out a little bit. 1043 00:50:55,480 --> 00:51:00,560 Speaker 4: But even past defense belongs to Indiana, and I I 1044 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:04,320 Speaker 4: wonder why is it the lack of super high profile players? 1045 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:06,879 Speaker 4: Because you and I had a conversation a couple weeks 1046 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,359 Speaker 4: ago about what teams have things that no one can 1047 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:10,799 Speaker 4: do anything about, and it was like A and M 1048 00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,879 Speaker 4: third down defense, Ohio State wide receivers, like everybody kind 1049 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 4: of had that thing, Oklahoma's movement up front with their 1050 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,960 Speaker 4: front seven, Like you better have something to offset this 1051 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,520 Speaker 4: one part of what they do or you never even 1052 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,680 Speaker 4: got the engine started to try to pull the upset 1053 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:29,360 Speaker 4: against them. Where is Indiana in all of these conversations, 1054 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,080 Speaker 4: because you look at some of the numbers they aught 1055 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,000 Speaker 4: to win this game Saturday night against Ohio State. 1056 00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,120 Speaker 2: Not a lot of people believe that's gonna happen. 1057 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 4: And would you not rather take a team a minus 1058 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:44,480 Speaker 4: across the board than a plus plus in one spot? 1059 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,640 Speaker 4: But maybe C plus in one or B plus or 1060 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,840 Speaker 4: B minus in another, Like there's not a true weakness 1061 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,399 Speaker 4: with that football team, but Josh, nobody's talking about them 1062 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:53,799 Speaker 4: that way. 1063 00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 2: And I just don't understand it. 1064 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,920 Speaker 1: Are you gonna give the name of the model that 1065 00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,680 Speaker 1: you use. It's Rubik's Cublic If you're interested, could you 1066 00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 1: say it again? It was really soft there. 1067 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,200 Speaker 2: Rubics Cubulick. 1068 00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think they're the. 1069 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,319 Speaker 4: Second and it is, like Josh said, it is advanced 1070 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,880 Speaker 4: that algorithm. Don't try to figure it out this. It 1071 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,279 Speaker 4: is more complicated than instagrams. You'll never get to the 1072 00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:17,839 Speaker 4: bottom of it. 1073 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,840 Speaker 1: Does it do like quarterback matchups even though they're not 1074 00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:21,200 Speaker 1: gonna be on the field at the same time? Does 1075 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,040 Speaker 1: it really get that granular like. 1076 00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:28,880 Speaker 4: Peyton versus Tom Brady win? It's not the Auburn plainsman 1077 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:33,080 Speaker 4: that you used to have to that quarterback. Don't running 1078 00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:36,840 Speaker 4: back check mark, wide receiver check mark. I used to 1079 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,000 Speaker 4: always get that paper on Wednesdays whenever it came out 1080 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,600 Speaker 4: and look at it and be like, our d lion's 1081 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:42,080 Speaker 4: not playing there. 1082 00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,280 Speaker 2: Delon, wait a second, So I don't really understand. 1083 00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,640 Speaker 1: Letter to the Editor again from number sixty one, yeah, whatever, 1084 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,600 Speaker 1: we just keep getting mail from this guy every week. 1085 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:52,880 Speaker 1: I think they're the second best team in the country. 1086 00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:57,880 Speaker 1: I certainly think that, maybe even fairly. There's a burden 1087 00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,960 Speaker 1: of proof because of that right there. If you're listening 1088 00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,160 Speaker 1: on podcasts, all I'm doing is pointing to the logo. 1089 00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,160 Speaker 1: You've never seen Indiana do it. You saw him do 1090 00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,320 Speaker 1: it last year. But then everyone who thought it was 1091 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,839 Speaker 1: superficial and cosmetic had their thoughts validated because they got 1092 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,120 Speaker 1: run when they played Ohio State, and then they got 1093 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,319 Speaker 1: beat pretty soundly by Notre Dame. This year, I feel 1094 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:21,360 Speaker 1: is totally different. I felt that since the Oregon game easily, 1095 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,080 Speaker 1: but really even before that, and they've motored their way 1096 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,480 Speaker 1: through their schedule. You look at you know, we got 1097 00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,799 Speaker 1: our own model here at pales in comparison to the 1098 00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:32,360 Speaker 1: Rubik's cubelip. But we never would have had Indiana rated 1099 00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,600 Speaker 1: top ten, Power rated top ten last year. They're solidly 1100 00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:39,120 Speaker 1: number two now. And I just want everyone to remember this. 1101 00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,919 Speaker 1: Odds makers really couldn't care less about anything other than 1102 00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,880 Speaker 1: making sure they've got a sharp enough number on a 1103 00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,719 Speaker 1: game that they don't get buried in money. It is 1104 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,200 Speaker 1: a total myth that the points spread on a game 1105 00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,680 Speaker 1: is merely meant to split the action fifty to fifty. 1106 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:58,520 Speaker 1: That is a total myth, because if it were, then 1107 00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:00,520 Speaker 1: they'd be making you lay a whole lot more than 1108 00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,360 Speaker 1: four and a half or five and a half. With 1109 00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,400 Speaker 1: Ohio State against Indiana this weekend. But I digress. I 1110 00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,120 Speaker 1: don't think people understand with this current version of Ohio 1111 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,319 Speaker 1: State how hard it is to be under a touchdown 1112 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,040 Speaker 1: underdog against them on a neutral field. You can play 1113 00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:15,799 Speaker 1: them in your own building, and it's hard to be 1114 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,640 Speaker 1: under a touchdown underdog, and Indiana is. And I think 1115 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,040 Speaker 1: it goes deeper than what you just said, but a 1116 00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,200 Speaker 1: lot of that stuff gets thrown in a blender and 1117 00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,880 Speaker 1: it's not like there's this one area where their quantum 1118 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,680 Speaker 1: leaps and bounds better than they were last year. I 1119 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:34,920 Speaker 1: just think it's the grand sum of incremental improvement across 1120 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,880 Speaker 1: the board, and a really good coaching staff gets that 1121 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,080 Speaker 1: year one to year two. Ideally you get it every year, 1122 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,480 Speaker 1: but especially year one to year two. So I mean, 1123 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,080 Speaker 1: I'm not going to sit here and be shocked if 1124 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,160 Speaker 1: they win. We talk Tuesday night about how many challenges 1125 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,840 Speaker 1: Ohio State's defense poses for Indiana, and that's true, and 1126 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,279 Speaker 1: I think Mendoza probably needs a better game through the 1127 00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:57,040 Speaker 1: air than he had against either Oregon or Iowa. But 1128 00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:01,280 Speaker 1: having said that, we think we know Ohio State's defense 1129 00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,319 Speaker 1: is elite. The paper tells us they're elite. They probably are, 1130 00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:09,200 Speaker 1: But there are some components, there are some combinations rather 1131 00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,799 Speaker 1: sort of being able to do multiple things well that 1132 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,920 Speaker 1: Indiana's offensive possesses that Ohio State hasn't had to deal 1133 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,200 Speaker 1: with this year. So you know what, if we're watching 1134 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:21,800 Speaker 1: and it's thirty to twenty four midway through the fourth quarter, 1135 00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,400 Speaker 1: they've already scored more than you thought that score on 1136 00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,280 Speaker 1: Ohio State, but they're the one with thirty on the board, 1137 00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,080 Speaker 1: it would surprise me. I don't know that would outright 1138 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,239 Speaker 1: shock me, just because it would have been Ohio State 1139 00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,719 Speaker 1: not dealing with a first incredibly. 1140 00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:39,640 Speaker 4: Well, it's gonna be fun to watch, And at first 1141 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,040 Speaker 4: I thought you were pointing at the old Dominion game 1142 00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,280 Speaker 4: that was the reason that we should all be impressed 1143 00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,520 Speaker 4: with Indiana, But nonetheless it was the logo I guess. 1144 00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:51,080 Speaker 4: So either way, I don't know who's gonna win that game. 1145 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:52,759 Speaker 4: I'm excited to watch it because I think it could 1146 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,520 Speaker 4: go either way. I'm with you on Ohio State's defense. 1147 00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,279 Speaker 4: When I watch them, I feel like they're elite. But 1148 00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:00,600 Speaker 4: one of the tests that we point to to say, 1149 00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:02,600 Speaker 4: that's why I know very elak because of what they 1150 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:03,239 Speaker 4: did against them. 1151 00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:04,880 Speaker 2: There's just not a lot of those on the schedule. 1152 00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,200 Speaker 1: I want to just present one more thing to you, 1153 00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,440 Speaker 1: and then we got to run. I listen to everyone 1154 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,560 Speaker 1: gripe and moan about the committee with good reason, because 1155 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:18,120 Speaker 1: every time the committee chair has opened his mouth this year, 1156 00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,560 Speaker 1: it is given a lot of ammunition to the haters. 1157 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,319 Speaker 1: The haters are a plenty, and the ammunition has been 1158 00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:23,800 Speaker 1: a plenty. 1159 00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:24,560 Speaker 2: Now. 1160 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,160 Speaker 1: I made the point the other night. I don't even 1161 00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:28,279 Speaker 1: think I said it on the show. I think I 1162 00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:29,759 Speaker 1: said it on Twitter, which was a waste of a 1163 00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,279 Speaker 1: good point. I said, you know what's really funny is 1164 00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,560 Speaker 1: it strikes me that we've got all these coaching searches 1165 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:38,759 Speaker 1: going on, and athletic directors are involved in those, and 1166 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:43,120 Speaker 1: every detail of these coaching searches eventually leaks and you 1167 00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,880 Speaker 1: just learn all of the ugly truth behind the curtain 1168 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,919 Speaker 1: of a coaching search, or most of it. Those same 1169 00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:54,120 Speaker 1: athletic directors allegedly are locked in a room where they 1170 00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,839 Speaker 1: debate each other. You heard Hunter tuesday night, he said, 1171 00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,960 Speaker 1: boy Reese, that Notre Dame Alabama debate, that was something 1172 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,919 Speaker 1: of the fiercest, most contentious debating that we've had over 1173 00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,480 Speaker 1: several years that I've been on this committee. None of 1174 00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,680 Speaker 1: the details ever leak. Have you ever noticed that all 1175 00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,680 Speaker 1: the details of the coaching searches leak, But allegedly we've 1176 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:17,120 Speaker 1: got these like at each other's throat level contentious debates 1177 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,240 Speaker 1: going to the eleventh hour about one team versus another team, 1178 00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:24,120 Speaker 1: and no one ever even hears what the specific merits 1179 00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:27,080 Speaker 1: of the respective sides of the debate were. My grand 1180 00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,200 Speaker 1: theory is that's cause it's not happening. My grand theory 1181 00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,200 Speaker 1: is they get a computer, they get a computer rating 1182 00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,280 Speaker 1: spat out at them, which finishes about ninety eight percent 1183 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,200 Speaker 1: of their job, and then they just kind of like 1184 00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,440 Speaker 1: the checkerboard at Cracker Brill, it's kind of moving around 1185 00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:44,480 Speaker 1: a little bit. And because they really didn't do the work, 1186 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:49,280 Speaker 1: they're ill equipped to explain their thinking because they didn't 1187 00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,600 Speaker 1: do the thinking, so the numbers are going to be 1188 00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:53,920 Speaker 1: what the numbers are. The reason I know that is 1189 00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,320 Speaker 1: because we got several folks we follow on Twitter right 1190 00:57:56,320 --> 00:58:01,160 Speaker 1: now that to about a ninety eighth percentile accurately predict 1191 00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,440 Speaker 1: what the rankings are going to be using simple computer formulas. Truthfully, 1192 00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,600 Speaker 1: it's mostly just the old BCS formula. And so that, 1193 00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,920 Speaker 1: my friend, I hate to disappoint you, is what is 1194 00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,880 Speaker 1: really going on. That is the playoff Santa Claus and 1195 00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,640 Speaker 1: someone had to someone had to pull the curtain back. 1196 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:23,200 Speaker 4: I thought Santa Claus delivered gifts, not ruined things for people. 1197 00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:27,440 Speaker 2: Depends on how you feel. You want to be Santa 1198 00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,040 Speaker 2: yet you're the grinch. But that's okay. 1199 00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,560 Speaker 4: Let me just counter it with this. In coaching searches, 1200 00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,919 Speaker 4: certain information is beneficial for one side or the other 1201 00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:39,439 Speaker 4: correct when it leaks. As you stated, so we either 1202 00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:43,160 Speaker 4: want you to take your hound dog that direction to 1203 00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:44,880 Speaker 4: try to figure out where were going for a coach, 1204 00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,520 Speaker 4: or that direction because we're actually going to go the 1205 00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:49,920 Speaker 4: other way, or the other side gives you something to 1206 00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,880 Speaker 4: make you think that this is a done deal, it's finished. 1207 00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,640 Speaker 4: Don't come talk to our guy because he's already locked 1208 00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:59,280 Speaker 4: down yet we're off talking to somebody else, or we 1209 00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,160 Speaker 4: didn't know as on but we want that side to 1210 00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,440 Speaker 4: think it is. Whatever it is, What would it benefit 1211 00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,640 Speaker 4: the committee for any of this information to get out 1212 00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:09,720 Speaker 4: of what people are actually saying or what people are 1213 00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:10,440 Speaker 4: actually doing. 1214 00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't I. 1215 00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:14,360 Speaker 2: Don't know what if it would or not. 1216 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,000 Speaker 4: First but we don't think they would want anybody to 1217 00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,480 Speaker 4: know what that information was because, like you said, then 1218 00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:20,720 Speaker 4: they would have to answer to it. 1219 00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,080 Speaker 2: So that would be my understanding of why it wouldn't 1220 00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:23,440 Speaker 2: get out there. 1221 00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:25,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, first off, what do you know about coaching 1222 00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:29,400 Speaker 1: searches anyway? Secondly, I would say I've It's not like 1223 00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,560 Speaker 1: I ever talked about it on air. I've straight up 1224 00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:35,520 Speaker 1: talked to athletic directors after the searches conclude and gotten 1225 00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:37,280 Speaker 1: all the details I could ever want. It's not like 1226 00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,960 Speaker 1: they're not forthcoming with the details that I fully grant 1227 00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,480 Speaker 1: your point. During a coaching search, there's a ton of 1228 00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:46,000 Speaker 1: motivation for someone to tell you a certain thing, to 1229 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:47,600 Speaker 1: get you to look a certain way, or get you 1230 00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:49,760 Speaker 1: to say something that shapes things a certain way. But 1231 00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,600 Speaker 1: after it's done, it's done. They got no problem if 1232 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,040 Speaker 1: they trust you coming forth with the information. And yet 1233 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,240 Speaker 1: the same one sit on that committee and it's like 1234 00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,800 Speaker 1: pulling teeth trying to find out how you guys really 1235 00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,959 Speaker 1: met Baylor in TCU that one year a decade ago. 1236 01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,919 Speaker 1: What were the specific points? Who was specifically arguing either way? 1237 01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:10,280 Speaker 4: Uh uh oh okay, now I'll back up your point, 1238 01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,240 Speaker 4: and this is I think there's reality to this as well. 1239 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:19,320 Speaker 4: They refuse to use common sense. And I've said for 1240 01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,640 Speaker 4: a long time that if whoever stands in front of 1241 01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:25,160 Speaker 4: a television camera does an interview to discuss what happened 1242 01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:29,280 Speaker 4: in this room, would just utilize common sense, a lot 1243 01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,120 Speaker 4: of the anger, the rage, the questioning. 1244 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:32,680 Speaker 2: Would all go away. 1245 01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:37,480 Speaker 4: Let's take probably our number one debate throughout this entire 1246 01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,840 Speaker 4: season as it pertains to the college football playoff rankings, 1247 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:44,760 Speaker 4: and that would be obviously Notre Dame in Miami, right yep. 1248 01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:48,360 Speaker 4: So what's not common sense? What do you and I 1249 01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:52,040 Speaker 4: never utilize when we debate or talk about or want 1250 01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:56,120 Speaker 4: to know more about anything in life? Data points Like 1251 01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:59,360 Speaker 4: if I want to ask you about where you grew up, 1252 01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:01,920 Speaker 4: or I want to ask about how you plan your wedding, 1253 01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,240 Speaker 4: I don't say, well, give me the data points on 1254 01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:07,520 Speaker 4: how you picked your reception venue. And you would say, well, 1255 01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,000 Speaker 4: if you carry the two and you put a decimal point. 1256 01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:11,520 Speaker 2: Those aren't real things. 1257 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,320 Speaker 4: So if a committee member would sit in front of 1258 01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:18,640 Speaker 4: a camera and say, yeah, guys, Notre Dame lost that game. 1259 01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,920 Speaker 4: The reality is when we watch them operate right now, 1260 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:25,640 Speaker 4: we feel like they're a better football team. Do you 1261 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:29,040 Speaker 4: have another question? And that would be the end of that. 1262 01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,640 Speaker 4: Now people are still going to debate it, talk about it, 1263 01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,080 Speaker 4: wonder about it. But when you come up with these 1264 01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:38,880 Speaker 4: hypothetical analytical decimal point math problems to try to explain 1265 01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,440 Speaker 4: your points of how you debated things, first of us, 1266 01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:43,800 Speaker 4: none of us understand that none of us know what 1267 01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:48,080 Speaker 4: those things are. Data points are not real life conversations. 1268 01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:51,840 Speaker 4: Real life conversations are that team operates great in the 1269 01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,680 Speaker 4: red zone. They manage situational football the way that you 1270 01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:56,960 Speaker 4: should be, They control the line of scrimmage, and they 1271 01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:57,680 Speaker 4: don't turn. 1272 01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:59,960 Speaker 2: The ball over like they operate as a better team 1273 01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:00,520 Speaker 2: right now. 1274 01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:05,240 Speaker 4: They have more efficient quarterback play, their defense doesn't allow 1275 01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:08,400 Speaker 4: teams to get first downs, specifically on third down, on 1276 01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:11,680 Speaker 4: a very regular basis. We love that about them. Whilst 1277 01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,200 Speaker 4: of that game early in the season, yes, but look 1278 01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:17,120 Speaker 4: what they've done here and here. That to us points 1279 01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,120 Speaker 4: out that they're a better football team. We don't get 1280 01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:21,560 Speaker 4: answers like that, and to me, that's all it would 1281 01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:23,840 Speaker 4: take for a lot of the nonsense to go away. 1282 01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:28,880 Speaker 4: But as you said, there are deflections to the hows 1283 01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:31,640 Speaker 4: and whys of things being discussed, and maybe that ultimate 1284 01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:35,040 Speaker 4: deflection is what you pointed to, and that is we 1285 01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,200 Speaker 4: use math. We just don't want to tell you we 1286 01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:37,720 Speaker 4: use math. 1287 01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:42,000 Speaker 1: Cole Kublink is his name known as Cole Kublick in 1288 01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:44,440 Speaker 1: the Palmetto State. Happy to have him on the show, 1289 01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:47,640 Speaker 1: Happy to have him. En route to the live show 1290 01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:51,760 Speaker 1: tomorrow night, Buckhead Theater, Atlanta, Georgia. Someone's gonna walk in 1291 01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:53,880 Speaker 1: and could not care less about any of the rest 1292 01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:56,160 Speaker 1: of us. They're just there to see you and you 1293 01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:57,840 Speaker 1: will get no royalties off that. I just want to 1294 01:02:57,880 --> 01:02:59,520 Speaker 1: make you feel good. Pump your tires a little bit. 1295 01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,120 Speaker 1: Someone's gonna come to see you be on your a game. 1296 01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:07,000 Speaker 2: One some one, a individual. 1297 01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:09,240 Speaker 1: And her name is Savannah and my wife won't even 1298 01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,920 Speaker 1: be there. Yeah, her name is swamp Fates. It's disgusting, 1299 01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:14,600 Speaker 1: it's pathetic, there it is, But that's my life, all right. 1300 01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:14,760 Speaker 2: Man. 1301 01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:17,280 Speaker 1: Cube Show on YouTube. Check it out. Check it out. 1302 01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:20,000 Speaker 1: Check it out. Subscribe, subscribe, subscribe, I'll see you tomorrow night. 1303 01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:23,040 Speaker 2: Hey, we're like twenty people away from twentyenty twenty. They 1304 01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:23,920 Speaker 2: said it couldn't be done. 1305 01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,400 Speaker 1: Jumpy said it couldn't be Yeah, so hey, live chat 1306 01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,600 Speaker 1: at least twenty one of you Cube show right now. 1307 01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:33,480 Speaker 1: Our show's over anyway after I tell you something. Okay, bye, wave, goodbye. 1308 01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:38,440 Speaker 1: There he goes, peace out. All right, Remember anyone in 1309 01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:41,440 Speaker 1: the Atlanta area, there are I don't know, like a 1310 01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,880 Speaker 1: couple of dozen tickets. Let we're almost sold out. I've 1311 01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:45,400 Speaker 1: got a couple dozen tickets left to the live show 1312 01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:47,480 Speaker 1: tomorrow night. It's not going to be a version of 1313 01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:51,240 Speaker 1: this show. I'll be there. Cube will be there, Will 1314 01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,880 Speaker 1: and Taylor will be there. We have several special guests, 1315 01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:57,280 Speaker 1: but it's it's very much an off the record, not 1316 01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:01,560 Speaker 1: broadcast anywhere live event. Will very interactive. We'll pass the 1317 01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:04,120 Speaker 1: mic around, you guys can shoot questions. We'll have a 1318 01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:07,280 Speaker 1: ton of giveaways. Gonna be a great time. And then 1319 01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:11,400 Speaker 1: Saturday will be a first because we will be man 1320 01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:15,800 Speaker 1: We're doing an altcast of the SEC Championship game. Harry Douglas, 1321 01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,919 Speaker 1: Will Compton, Taylor Luawan myself right there on the field 1322 01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,800 Speaker 1: at Mercedes ben Stadium, Georgia, Alabama. That'll be on ESPN, 1323 01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:25,520 Speaker 1: falerin Herbie with the call over on ABC, the traditional call. 1324 01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,360 Speaker 1: We are anything but traditional. Appreciate you guys so much. 1325 01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,800 Speaker 1: Happy that you've been here all week. We've had really 1326 01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:35,120 Speaker 1: really good traffic. We'll be here Sunday night to actually, no, jess, 1327 01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,680 Speaker 1: we'll be here Sunday afternoon. This is the only Sunday 1328 01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:40,520 Speaker 1: show of the year that because the playoff rankings happen. 1329 01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:43,920 Speaker 1: When they do, we just go right afterwards. So I 1330 01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:47,160 Speaker 1: think we're planning on one eastern twelfth Central as our 1331 01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,920 Speaker 1: kickoff time Sunday. That's a quick turnaround. We got to 1332 01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:51,120 Speaker 1: get home, all right. 1333 01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:51,840 Speaker 2: Anyway. 1334 01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,400 Speaker 1: We'll see a lot of you in Atlanta tomorrow night. 1335 01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,920 Speaker 1: We'll see many more of you in Atlanta on ESPN 1336 01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:58,400 Speaker 1: the next day, and then we'll see the rest of 1337 01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:01,040 Speaker 1: you right back here in Nashville Monday. 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