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Speaker 1: Wow, Hey there everybody. It is Wednesday, April twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where we're still

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Speaker 1: open to making a trade somewhere in the first round.

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Speaker 1: It's been your man named g Marcus Grant. Randy is

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Speaker 1: at the controls, Michael left. Florio is off today. He's

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Speaker 1: doing stuff with the fam. I actually think, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: I know there is a a top golf that opened,

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Speaker 1: uh in Elsa Gundo down near the beach, and Uh,

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Speaker 1: it's brand new. Everybody's like clamoring to get in. I

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Speaker 1: believe Florio has been standing in line since Saturday, and

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Speaker 1: I think he's hoping to get up to see at

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Speaker 1: some point this afternoon. So uh, sitting in in his place. Uh,

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Speaker 1: a friend of the show, just a friend in general,

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Speaker 1: a researcher extraordinaire. If you listen to our previous shows,

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Speaker 1: you know him previously as our fantasy nerd Uh. He

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Speaker 1: is one of the many people I go to when

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about wide receivers. Is the one

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Speaker 1: and only Matt Okayet appreciate you sitting in man. How

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Speaker 1: are things absolutely glad to be back? Um, things are great.

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Speaker 1: It is almost draft time, which is one of the

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Speaker 1: best times of the year, and I'm excited for it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I definitely wanted to get your you on here and

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Speaker 1: pick your brain about some of these wide receiver prospects

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Speaker 1: because I think when it comes to the offensive skill positions,

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Speaker 1: this is probably the deepest group of that. So I

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Speaker 1: wanted to kind of get your thoughts on on some

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Speaker 1: of the guys here. Also, though I know I said

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Speaker 1: this last week, we were kind of hoping maybe to

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Speaker 1: get you on last week, but you uh were called

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Speaker 1: to perform your civic duty at jury duty. I also

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Speaker 1: at the time I threw in, I threw a plea

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Speaker 1: A County court system that somehow excuse you, we would

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Speaker 1: be grateful. And it turns out I don't think it

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Speaker 1: had anything to do with my plea, but you have

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Speaker 1: been excused. But you were almost going to rub elbows

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Speaker 1: with I use celebrities in air quotes. You were going

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Speaker 1: to rub elbows some uh, some big name people potentially

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Speaker 1: had you been called to a jury called it's a

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Speaker 1: jury service. Yeah, So as it happens, I actually did

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Speaker 1: rub elbows with them. I just didn't get put on

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Speaker 1: the jury long term, but they called me into the courtroom,

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Speaker 1: so I don't. I think I'm pretty sure I can

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Speaker 1: talk about all this since I'm not on the jury.

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Speaker 1: And also, yeah, so it's a Kardashian case. The whole

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Speaker 1: Kardashian family is being sued by Black China. Long story,

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Speaker 1: I don't really understand it. I didn't research it because

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Speaker 1: I wasn't supposed to per the instructions of the judge. Uh.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, so they all they all were walking right

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I was ten feet away from all the Kardashians.

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Speaker 1: I can tell you that Kim is tiny, a lot

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Speaker 1: smaller than you would expect, and they all look like

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Speaker 1: more relatively normal. I hope that's not insulting, but you

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Speaker 1: it's uh always always interesting. I was. I was mentioning

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Speaker 1: that on the walls of the lobby where I had

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Speaker 1: was walking by a security guard. This was a funny

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Speaker 1: to the point where the guy said, yeah, I remember

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Speaker 1: is amazing. That is absolutely amazing. Well, glad to have you.

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Speaker 1: We got plenty to talk about that. We'll do some

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Speaker 1: interestingly enough, I maybe I've jinked this. I said before

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Speaker 1: Darlington's as we started recording this show breaking News. I

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Speaker 1: just spoke to wide receiver Deebo Samuel, and he told

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Speaker 1: me that he has asked the forty Niners to trade him.

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Speaker 1: He did not want to discuss specific reasons behind his request,

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if there's much to be

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Speaker 1: imagine Matt, there will be plenty of people interested. U

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Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel really truly wants to leave San Francisco. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: uh in his defense. So that's gonna be the one

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Speaker 1: probably have to do it, telling Deebo advance unless he

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Speaker 1: And if they don't, then he's just gonna not want

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Speaker 1: find you know, the quote unquote the next Deebo Samuel. Um,

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Speaker 1: now it could be that, you know, the original Deebo

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Speaker 1: we will certainly keep tabs on it. Again. This literally

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Speaker 1: get us to some other headlines. Now. Strangely enough, I

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Speaker 1: It turns out a lot of the interesting headlines had

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Speaker 1: just kind of a coincidence. The first one being Patrick

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Speaker 1: Mahomes talking about Nicole Hardman saying he doesn't have to

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Speaker 1: be Tyreek Hill in order for the Chiefs offense to

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Speaker 1: fantasy sort of been waiting for another Chief's receiver to emerge.

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Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey has been great, Tyreek Hill was great for

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Speaker 1: that they tried to shoehorn Josh Gordon in at some

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Speaker 1: point to um, is there an easy way? Is there

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Speaker 1: a one to one way to replace Tyreek Hill, at

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Speaker 1: be the ideal pick. And with Mahomes at quarterback and

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Speaker 1: the guys that they do have now they all have,

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Speaker 1: you know, pieces of his skill set or good pieces

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Speaker 1: He takes some of that work. M VS potentially takes

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Speaker 1: let's be honest here. Nobody expected Tyreek Hill to be

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Speaker 1: So we'll see if they do, you know, if they

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Speaker 1: do target somebody, how that sort of works out. In

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Speaker 1: the meantime, how this combination of of wide receivers they

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Speaker 1: the horizon and he can kind of see it, and

430
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 1: he's got plenty of time left before it gets here,

431
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 1: and he's gonna throw in another season. I think that means.

432
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 1: I think that's entirely why he came back, why he left,

433
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,639
Speaker 1: and why he came back. He was starting to feel

434
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,439
Speaker 1: his age. It was at the end of the season

435
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: you feel a lot worse. At the end of the season,

436
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,920
Speaker 1: he had just lost and there was like, Okay, you

437
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 1: know what, I think this might be finally time. And

438
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 1: then once he had his body recover a little bit,

439
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 1: his mind recover a little bit, he said, wait a minute,

440
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 1: I've still got at least a year left. I'm coming

441
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 1: back again. And I think he hunter percent does, and

442
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,159
Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, Bill Belichick has built a reputation,

443
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 1: except maybe in the Brady situation, for getting out of

444
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 1: a guy at just the right time a year before

445
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 1: they fall off. He's kind of built a reputation of

446
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 1: doing that. I think at this point we have to

447
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 1: just with Brady agree that we're gonna be a year

448
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 1: late on predicting that he's going to fall off, because

449
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,119
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna do it again. I don't know if

450
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 1: I have, since I'm a Patriots fan at heart. I

451
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: may never have actually done it, but I know that

452
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 1: everyone else has. You know, five or six years ago,

453
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 1: there are clips of people, uh in the Big Talk

454
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 1: Show saying he's falling off a cliff, this is the

455
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 1: last year. He's never going to be in a great

456
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: quarterback again. And he's still the best argue with the

457
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,120
Speaker 1: best in the league, at least in terms of winning

458
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 1: a games. So no, I don't think he's I think

459
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 1: he might not have a lot left, but I think

460
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 1: he has plenty for this year. So I don't think

461
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 1: he's falling off the cliff here. And I will not

462
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 1: bet on it until he's retired for five years, and

463
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 1: then I'll say, Okay, he probably can't play quarterback anymore.

464
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's probably fair, right, Like I

465
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 1: I think I have gotten out of the you know,

466
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:51,440
Speaker 1: predicting Tom Brady's declined business, right, Uh you know, I

467
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 1: I think I might have been one of those people

468
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: four or five years ago say you know, the end

469
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 1: is near, right. It was talked that his deep ball

470
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 1: had fallen off, that he wasn't the same guy. I mean, uh,

471
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 1: you know what, the last time we saw him throw

472
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: a pass for the Patriots, it was a pick six

473
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, and we're like, well, maybe that maybe

474
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: that's a wrap for Tom And then he leaves and

475
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 1: he goes and went to Super Bowl somewhere else. So

476
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,439
Speaker 1: I am I'm definitely out of the business of saying

477
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,360
Speaker 1: Tom Brady is done. He he will tell us when

478
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 1: he is officially done. And uh, I mean, who knows.

479
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 1: Maybe it's after this year, maybe it's still a couple

480
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: more years. Maybe he really does play until he's fifty

481
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 1: years old. Who who knows at this point. But I'm

482
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 1: not going to bet against tom Brady. And I feel

483
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: like this was a little bit of him trying to

484
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 1: to be humble, maybe trying to to show his human side.

485
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 1: Other than this, I do feel like Tom Brady has

486
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 1: been a little more I won't say of a regular person,

487
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 1: but he's shown a little bit more of his human

488
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: side since he left. Since he left New England, he

489
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 1: he tends to be more humorous, more open. Whoever runs

490
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: his social media account is really good at it. Uh.

491
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: I'm sure they get paid a lot and uh. And

492
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: and he comes off as very very it in humans.

493
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 1: So I would say we have seen a different side

494
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 1: of Tom Brady since since he left the Patriots. So

495
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: that's that's entertaining. And yeah, I'm curious whether that is

496
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 1: because he left the Patriots and got out from the

497
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 1: Evil Empire or if he's just like trying to set

498
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 1: himself up for profit or post football celebrity hood. And

499
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 1: although he's putting in the effort. Now feels like this

500
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: seems like both things can be true a situation. You know,

501
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: it's funny too because I I sort a parallel of

502
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 1: this as I'm watching this to to late career kind

503
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: of Kobe Bryant even too, because I I had always

504
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 1: felt like it felt like Kobe was so focused on

505
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 1: basketball that I felt like maybe he would be lost

506
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: whenever his playing days were done. And you know, tragically

507
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 1: we didn't get to see a long post basketball career

508
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: period for for Kobe Bryant. But in the time that

509
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 1: he was not playing, uh, you know, he really opened

510
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: up and he really had a you know, show that

511
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,439
Speaker 1: he had a whole diverse set of interest and he

512
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 1: was you know, kind of getting into entertainment and producing

513
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 1: and just doing you know, doing a whole lot of

514
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: other things. And so I feel like maybe this is

515
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 1: sort of the pivot that Tom Brady is trying to

516
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: to create now too, because you know, regardless of when

517
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: he's done, it probably is coming sooner than later. So

518
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 1: you know, I'm very interested to see kind of what's

519
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: next for him. All Right, let's take quick break, come back,

520
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna get into the meter this We're

521
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 1: gonna talk to some wide receiver prospects because we are

522
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 1: officially eight days from the start of the NFL Draft,

523
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 1: So we'll talk some wide receivers coming up after the

524
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 1: break on the NFL Fantasy Football Show. All right, we

525
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: are talking wide receivers with a certified wide receiver expert.

526
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: I guess can we can? We say expert? Is that fair? Alright?

527
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: Scout a little bit expert, give me maybe a little

528
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: too much credit? All right, we'll go Scout. Then that's fair.

529
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: So it's certified wide receivers, Scout, Matt o'cada. And when

530
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: you look at all the skill positions all the I

531
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 1: will say fantasy relevant positions. Uh, the wide receiver group

532
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: this year, your tends to be maybe the deepest. I know.

533
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 1: There's a lot of talk about the quarterbacks. Uh, you

534
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: know we have cherry picked I think some running backs

535
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: here and there. There's usually one or two tight ends

536
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: of note, but the wide receivers continue to be kind

537
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: of deep. So let's just start at the top. I

538
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: know there are a handful of guys and and depending

539
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 1: on who you ask, their number one wide receiver in

540
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: this class might be different. Us. Why I will ask

541
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: you who is your number one wide receiver in this class? Yeah,

542
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: But one of the things I like most about this

543
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: class is how many different answers you get to this question,

544
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: Like you said, depending on who you ask. So there,

545
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 1: I'm sure there'll be plenty of people who are in

546
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: my mention telling me I'm wrong for this, But for me,

547
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: it's Drake London, and I don't know how close it is.

548
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 1: For me. I have them like a whole grade level

549
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: above the next tier of guys in my opinion, And

550
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: the main reason is because I think he has the

551
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 1: best ability and chance to be a true number one

552
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 1: superstar kind of wide receiver. Um, he's got the size

553
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: for it, six four two ten to two fifteen somewhere

554
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: in that range. He's got the every bit of the

555
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,239
Speaker 1: contested catchability. He's got route running ability. I know there

556
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: are questions about his separation, which we may get to.

557
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: I'm not too concerned with them. He's got elite body control.

558
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: He is an incredible track in the ball on d passes.

559
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: He's good after the catch, very good after the catch,

560
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: very strong. He's extremely competitive, which is something that I

561
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: like to see a lot, especially for guys that are

562
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 1: going to be in Alpha in this league if you

563
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: want them to be. So he brings he checks basically

564
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: every box for me, and he checks higher on most

565
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: of the boxes than than everybody else in this class

566
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: and then a lot of other guys in recent classes,

567
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: even especially with his size. So I really think Drake

568
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: London has the best chance to be in Alpha. I

569
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: think he has even if you you know, go away

570
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: from the tape a little bit more towards his analytics

571
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: is bra acount Age is really good. His per game

572
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: numbers have been incredible in the last few years. So

573
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: I think he can be a true one. And he's

574
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: my wide receiver one, and honestly, I'm leaning towards him

575
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: as my number one pick if you're not in a

576
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: super flex league. Maybe even if you're in a super

577
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: flex leak, depending on where the quarterbacks go. All right, Um,

578
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: so you mentioned his separation, and I know that's that's

579
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: been the big knock on him, right, that he's not

580
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: a separator, at least on film. We had Emory Hunt

581
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: on a couple of weeks ago and and he sort

582
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: of talked about that too, And what Emory said was,

583
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: you know, he's like, yeah, sure, when you when you

584
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: see him at the catch point, maybe he doesn't have separation,

585
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: but if you watch him in the route, he probably

586
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: had separation moments earlier and the throw was a little

587
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: bit late. I mean, for you, with somebody who spends

588
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: a lot of time watching these guys, what is it

589
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: about him that that doesn't really you know, if if

590
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: he doesn't get separation, what is it about you that

591
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: does about him that doesn't worry you? There? Yeah, I

592
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: think it is a lot of that. I would agree

593
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: kind of with that assessment. Um. I saw really good

594
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: footwork from him. I saw at the top of his route,

595
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: when he's when he's breaking out of his route, his

596
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: snap back ability and his timing are incredible, and then

597
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: the quarterback tends to maybe throw him a little less

598
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: open than he should have been. Um, And I mean,

599
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: for me, a lot of it. I look at guys

600
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: like Mike Evans, right, and that's one of the comps

601
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: he gets often. And in fact, I went back and

602
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: pulled up a Mike Evans scouting report just to see

603
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: what kind of things are being said in this regard.

604
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,479
Speaker 1: So I wrote them down here they are. This is

605
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: this is what was being said about Mike Evans monotone

606
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: mover with pedestrian speed, cannot separate vertically or or pull

607
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: away from the pack unsudden acceleration. Stiff hips will have

608
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: to make a living in traffic at the next level,

609
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: will struggle to separators with quick twitch NFL cornerbacks. That's

610
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: a lot of the same stuff that the Drake London

611
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: haters are saying, and I think we've seen Mike Evans

612
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: show that that's not really a problem, and not just

613
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: because he's one of the best contestant can tested catch

614
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: receivers in the NFL and will make those catches even

615
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: when he doesn't separate, but also because he does actually

616
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: have the ability to separate, especially when he has a

617
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: good quarterback who can throw, you know, at the right

618
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: timings and when he finds that open window. So I

619
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,719
Speaker 1: see Drake London very similar to Evans in that way.

620
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: I think he does have the ability to separate enough,

621
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: and if and when he doesn't, he's coming down with

622
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: the ball anyways. And I know that there are a

623
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: lot of people who are concerned about the guys who

624
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: rely on contested catch to succeed. I don't think London

625
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: only relies on that to succeed. I just think that

626
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: he will always succeed when that situation is asked of him,

627
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: And I think that it is probably going to translate

628
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: well into a lot of touchdowns, which is something we

629
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: like for fantasy. So I'm really not Yeah, I'm not

630
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: too concerned. I will say, as as someone who watched

631
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: a lot of USC football games, Uh, you know, I

632
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: can I can attest that quarterback play was not always

633
00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: a strength for the Trojans that you know at that

634
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: at a lot of times it was it was Drake

635
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: London sort of bailing out the quarterback. I mean it

636
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: in some ways, it's it's it's nice to have that

637
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,239
Speaker 1: blank It's nice to have that guy where you can say, hey,

638
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: you know what, when all else fails, let's just throw

639
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: it up in his direction and the chances are good

640
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: he's going to make a play. Uh. It's good for

641
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: on the field. I know it doesn't necessarily translate well

642
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: into scouting that sometimes you know, it maybe makes the

643
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: wide receiver look like he's in a worse position uh

644
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: than he may have been initially. So you talk about

645
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: how much you love him, do you look at him?

646
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: I mean the last couple of drafts have given us

647
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: some really elite prospects. Right, we had Jamaar Chase last year,

648
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: we had Justin Jefferson the year before. I mean, that's

649
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: not even talking about some of the guys that went

650
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: later who have been very good, uh so far in

651
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: their young NFL careers. Are we talking about Drake London

652
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,959
Speaker 1: as that level? I mean, look at and looks to say, look,

653
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: if he's not just In Jefferson, that doesn't mean he's

654
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: a bad player, But but do you see him kind

655
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: of on that level or is he maybe a little

656
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: less than that? So I'll what I'll say is this,

657
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: Both those guys were viewed as potential superstar prospects and

658
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: you know, very high first round uh capital type options.

659
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: I think London is in that conversation. I'm not going

660
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: to predict him to be that those guys and I

661
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: and even if you just you know, you gave me

662
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: five to one odds on it, I probably wouldn't take it,

663
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: just because those guys have been records setting unbelievable. You know,

664
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: I would call them generational, except that they both happened

665
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: one after the other, so you can't really say that,

666
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: um kinds of of young wider super talent. So it's

667
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: it seems a little strong to predict him, to project

668
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: him to be that. But I do think he can't

669
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: fit in that conversation. And I think there's even maybe

670
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: one or two other guys here who could. I wouldn't

671
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: bet on it, but I would say it's possible. And

672
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: it's more possible with Drake London for me than it

673
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: is for most of this class. Yeah. Look, I said,

674
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: like like I said, just because he doesn't turn into

675
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: Jamaar Chase, Uh, you know as a rookie doesn't mean

676
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: I think he's a bad player and and and no

677
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: one should think that. Uh. And it looks I feel

678
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 1: like the last two guys I have set the bar

679
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 1: really really high. Um, and it's it's okay if maybe

680
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: not everybody reaches quite that that level. Look, if if

681
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: Drink London helps get somebody to super Bowl, great, Otherwise

682
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: I think we can just settle for him being a

683
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: very good wide receiver. Other than that, UM, A couple

684
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: of Ohio State guys also sort of near the top

685
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: of everybody's ranks. Garrett Wilson, Crystal Lava. I know that

686
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: you were very big on Crystal Lava, and you're not

687
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: the only one. Uh. You know, our pal Matt Harman,

688
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,760
Speaker 1: who also spent a lot of time charting wide receivers,

689
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: likes Crystal Lave. I know you said that he he

690
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 1: absolutely has to be in everybody's top five and otherwise

691
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 1: you're doing it wrong. But when you compare him to

692
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson, is there one you like more than the other?

693
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: It's close. I'll start off with that. It's it's basically

694
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 1: like a A minus difference at best. But and for

695
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: a while I had it basically at the same grade

696
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: for both these guys. But for me it's Chris A

697
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: Lava and that I think that's a little bit of

698
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: a hot take, because Garrett Wilson is a lot of

699
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: people's number one overall wide receiver, and most people have

700
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: a good three to four or maybe even five wide

701
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: receivers between these two guys. But for me and a

702
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: lot of it is in the same vein as why

703
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,959
Speaker 1: Matt Harmon likes him so much. And if you haven't

704
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: checked out Matt Harmon's worked with reception reception, you absolutely

705
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: should because there aren't many better sources to view how

706
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: good a a wide receiver is at winning on his

707
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: routes then that product and he loves Chris lave because

708
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: this guy is one of the most incredibly talented route

709
00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: runners I have ever seen on tape. And it's interesting

710
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: because he does it in a little bit different way.

711
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: So Garrett Wilson is also a very good route runner,

712
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: but he kind of has that Stefon Diggs keenan Allen

713
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: incredible cut like how does his knee do that? And

714
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: suddenly he's going in the other direction type of ability

715
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 1: to win through his routes, and that's a great way

716
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 1: to win, and it's it's very successful to the NFL level.

717
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: Chris lave A, his ability to win in the vertical

718
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: route running space is seriously elite. It is unbelievable. It

719
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 1: is truly beautiful to watch. I suggest that you guys

720
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: try to go and find clips of it. He will

721
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: absolutely cook NFL level cornerbacks, literally, guys who are strong

722
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: NFL corners now like Patrick Surtan with his his nuance

723
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: in the vertical route, his head faced, his ability to

724
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: accelerate and decelerate, it's he is a craftsman in that way.

725
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 1: And I even have in my notes somewhere, so with

726
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: his speed he turns this into the um incredibly difficult

727
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: question every single route of is he going deep or

728
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: is he not going deep? And I had this one

729
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,720
Speaker 1: line in my notes that just says, in all caps,

730
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 1: is he going deep or not? I have no idea.

731
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: He's a wizard for exclamation points, literally a wizard. And

732
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: so if you put him in onto a team where

733
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: the quarterback is a threat to throw deep and Chris

734
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 1: A Laby is a threat to go deep, it means

735
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 1: that either he's gonna win deep or he's gonna win underneath.

736
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: Whichever way he's trying to win, he's gonna do it.

737
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: That's the way I see it with him, and so

738
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: I think that he I think he could be absolutely

739
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: incredible at the next level given the right situation. UM,

740
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: and he's got tons of other skills as well. The

741
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: size and the production are kind of the two big

742
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: question marks, especially in his senior year where he kind

743
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: of stepped back. So those things keep him from you know,

744
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: jumping Drake London or maybe even being higher as a

745
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: prospect for me. But I still really really like him,

746
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: and I also like Garrett Wilson. So you mentioned you

747
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: mentioned that you know a lot kind of took a

748
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: step back his senior year, and you know, the games

749
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: I watched, um, you know, I watched a handful of

750
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: both of these guys, and it just it felt like Wilson,

751
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: at least last year was more of the alpha in

752
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: that wide receiver group there for Ohio State. And so

753
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: that that immediately kind of made me wonder, well, you know,

754
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 1: does that mean Olave has to be a secondary guy

755
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 1: in the NFL? I mean, when you look at him,

756
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: does he have what it takes? Could he maybe not

757
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,760
Speaker 1: right away? Could he one day be a wide receiver

758
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: one or is he always sort of destined to be

759
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: kind of that complementary piece in a passing game. So

760
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: it is very, very tough to camp Lave. And I've

761
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: seen a lot of people do it, and I've seen

762
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: pretty much a different name every single place that you

763
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: see a camp. To me, the one that stands out

764
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 1: the best that I like the best, not just because

765
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 1: they kind of have a similar skill set and size

766
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: a little Lave is a little bigger I think, and

767
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 1: uh just all around ability, but because I see them

768
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 1: being similar in their fantasy production and in who they

769
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: can be for us in fantasy. Is Brandon Cooks. Is

770
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks a true one. I don't actually know. He's

771
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: on the fringe. He's kind of always been sort of that,

772
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 1: but not really ever that um and part of that

773
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: is his size and the fact that he's more of

774
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: a deep threat kind of guy, and so we don't

775
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: think of him like we think of the you know,

776
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: Mike Evans is or Alan Robbins is if he got

777
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: a good quarterback, those kinds of guys who were bigger.

778
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: But Brandon Cooks has been perennially at least every year

779
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 1: he's had a half decent quarterback, and even several years

780
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: that he didn't or a couple of years that he

781
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: didn't because mostly he had Hall of famers. He has

782
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: been a fringe wide deceiver one a top fifteen guy reliably.

783
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,439
Speaker 1: I think Chris alob it can be that kind of guy.

784
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: Is he ever gonna be, you know, the number one

785
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: wide receiver in fantasy? Maybe not, although he could be,

786
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: but probably I wouldn't bet on it, but it can

787
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: he be a Brandon Cooks, you know type of guy

788
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: where year and year out you're getting value on him

789
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: in draft because he's returning top twelve value at a

790
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: top twenty price. Yes, I think he absolutely can. So

791
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: I like dot Com for his skill set and for

792
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: you know, fantasy expectations. I mean, look, man, having a

793
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks type career, it's not a bad thing. Um.

794
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: I I I'm always amazed that it feels like Brandon

795
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: Cooks seems to be getting traded around the league. I

796
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: know he, I know, he just you know, reuped in

797
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: Houston Soil. He's gonna be back there. But uh, the

798
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: fact that he went, it seemed like every year Brandon

799
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: Cooks was getting traded to somebody else was always a

800
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: head scratcher to me because this is a guy that, uh,

801
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: you know, showed up and would would reliably give you

802
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: a thousand yards, a decent handful of touchdowns. Uh, was

803
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 1: generally just consistent week to week. It just it boggled

804
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: my mind that, you know, a team wouldn't want to

805
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: hang onto a guy like that. But you know, if

806
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: if that's what we get out of Crystal Lave, I

807
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: think they're they're certainly worse things in the world, uh

808
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: than than that level of production. Um. Christian Watson was

809
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: a name that that I think early on in this

810
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: process was getting a whole lot of run. Uh you know,

811
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: big tall speedster guy. Uh, you know, went to an

812
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: FCS school. I feel like, you know, we have the

813
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: same kind of conversations with all these FCS guys about

814
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: level of competition or what have you. The one thing

815
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: that jumped out of me though, is, you know, his

816
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: relatively low catch numbers. I mean, this is a guy

817
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: that was averaging, you know, maybe three or four catches

818
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 1: the game. I think his final year he had forty

819
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: three catches. I mean that it's not a huge number. Necessarily.

820
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: Did that worre you at all when you were when

821
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,439
Speaker 1: you were doing your evaluations for him? Um? I think

822
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 1: it was a starting point that then created a bit

823
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: of worry as I watched him on tape. So, and

824
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: that's typically the way that I like to do things

825
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: is look at a guy's production, see you know, where

826
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 1: did he succeed, how did he succeed, When did he succeed,

827
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: and then watched the tape and see why. And so

828
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: if I watched the tape on Christian Watson, and I

829
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: saw that his team was just running the ball so

830
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: much that you know, he didn't get that many targets,

831
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 1: and so he didn't get that many catches, but he

832
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: was being used everywhere. I don't think I would feel

833
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: that bad to me. That's not the case with Christian Watson.

834
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: The reason he didn't get a lot of catches is

835
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: because he was only targeted deep. His average depth of

836
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 1: target over the last two years is sixteen point four.

837
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: Most of the guys were talking about in his class

838
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:13,479
Speaker 1: around the ten to eleven range. His uh, he will

839
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: only be he was only targeted deep in college. I

840
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: see that probably being in the case at the next level.

841
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: He is just a big deep threat kind of guy.

842
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: And the reason for that, and this is kind of

843
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about with why I didn't liking why

844
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: it does create worried for me. I only saw one

845
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: winning move from him, only one in all the tape

846
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: that I watched, and that is where he will slow

847
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: roll the dB off the line and then kind of

848
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: hit this second gear, which he has in spades. It

849
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: is an incredible second gear, especially for his size, and

850
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 1: he'll burst past the dB and he'll be three yards

851
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: past him, the ball will go up and he'll have

852
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: a deep touchdown. But that's the only way I saw

853
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: him win, and I do not like that for a

854
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: wide receiver prospect. I want them to be able to

855
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: win in multiple ways, like with Drake London, life with

856
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: Christal Love and Art Wilson. Um. Yeah, so I did

857
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: not see that with him, so it created concern can

858
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: he be like for me? The comps that I wrote

859
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: down are like Tyrrell Williams type of guy. Probably like

860
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: he can probably have a few hundred guard games again

861
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: a year. He'll be maybe a nice best ball or

862
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: everyone someone will he'll hit for dfs. He'll be that

863
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 1: type of receiver. But I don't see him being a

864
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 1: guy that you want to be drafting in the first

865
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: six rounds of your fantasy drafts or even the first

866
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: two rounds of your rookie drafts. To me, he's kind

867
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: of a complimentary deep speed piece and that showed up

868
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 1: on the tape along with the stats for me. So,

869
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: speaking of of bigger guys out there having success, Trey

870
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: Burke's you know another guy who's a you know, he's

871
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: a bigger bodied guy. I know that at the combine

872
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: his forty time didn't necessarily impress a lot of people,

873
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: but it felt like for me, maybe for you maybe

874
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: you felt differently, but like his game speed seems a

875
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: lot more relevant than his is his workout speed. I mean, like,

876
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: this is a guy who against Alabama, a team that

877
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: you know every year is just loaded with NFL prospects,

878
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: went out and had one of his best games of

879
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: the season. Um. I mean, how do you feel about him?

880
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 1: Is he? Is he a guy where it is really

881
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: more about the tape than it is the workout measurements. Yeah, well,

882
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: at the starting point, I'll say for the most part,

883
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: for me, it's more about the tape than the workout measurements.

884
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: Across the board with these guys, especially in the year

885
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 1: where everyone seems to run a sub for four and

886
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: and the initial times were miles off of the actual times,

887
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: I don't know how sold I am on these four, three,

888
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: nine guys, the eight of them in this trapp Everyone

889
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: is fast now, Um, But with Brooks, I would I

890
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: think I would agree with you. I think that you

891
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: see more of game speed on tape than maybe a

892
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: slow fort you would tell you. And I don't think

893
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: that that really is the concern for me with him.

894
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 1: Does concern me a little bit more. I think he's

895
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: not quite sudden enough in his routes and doesn't have

896
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,240
Speaker 1: enough urgency in his routes to get open very often,

897
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: and I think he might need to be a big

898
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: slot guy at the next level to be open frequently.

899
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: I didn't see him win off the line, you know,

900
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: versus press man coverage very much, and so that that

901
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: kind of concerns me a little bit more than his speed.

902
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 1: But he has a lot of other strengths. He's a

903
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: monstrous contested catch guy. He's great after the catch, very tough,

904
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: and he's a smooth route runner as well. So I

905
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 1: think you get him in the slot and you expect

906
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 1: him to be a big slot guy, he can be

907
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: very productive. He's kind of a tier below the other

908
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: guys we've talked about so far and one other guy

909
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,399
Speaker 1: that I have above him, but he is, He's right

910
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: into that next tier, and so I think that he'll be.

911
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: I think he can be a very productive fantasy receiver,

912
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 1: maybe not elite, and the speed is not really you know,

913
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: a huge concern for me in that regard. Um, what

914
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: is my Jamison Williams too. I mean, the guy was

915
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 1: having I know, a great year, unfortunately suffers the injury

916
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: in in the National Championship game. Um. Before that, I mean,

917
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: what how do you how are you feeling like? What?

918
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:13,240
Speaker 1: What are your your takeaways on Jamison Williams. Jamison william

919
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: is an interesting one. I think that for whatever reason,

920
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: he might be lower from me relative to where everyone

921
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: else has him than any other wide refever that we've

922
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: talked about, and not horrifically so to where I'm like,

923
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: this guy's a bus, don't touch him. But I just

924
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: think that to me when I saw is he has

925
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: elite speed, extremely impressive. You know, whether it's before the

926
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: catch should get open, whether it's after the catch, whether

927
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: it's on reverses or handoffs, he will blow by people

928
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: and it will turn into good yardage, which is good

929
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: for us in fantasy um. And he does have a

930
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: lot of good route running abilities and quick comeback stuff.

931
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: But I was not that impressed with kind of his

932
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: competitive toughness overall. His blocking ability didn't stand out to me.

933
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: In fact, it was pretty bad. After the catch when

934
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 1: he's not using his speed, he didn't seem very tough,

935
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: and so a lot of that stuff kind of pulled

936
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: him back down for me a little bit. I think

937
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: that if you get him to a system where his

938
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: speed is utilized and you get him into open space. Uh,

939
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 1: with the ability to run deep or to run fast

940
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: to the outside or past you know, defenders, he is

941
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 1: going to be very productive. So if he goes to

942
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, this is a guy I would like to

943
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,240
Speaker 1: go to the Chiefs. If he goes to the Chiefs,

944
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: I think it could be really really strong for him

945
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: and for the team. If he goes to somewhere they

946
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: where they want him to be a one. I don't

947
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: really like that. And for further context, him going to

948
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: the Chiefs is not to be Tyreek kill. It's just

949
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: because they know how to utilize speed incredibly well. And

950
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: I think that they could mix him in with the

951
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: other guys they have in a situation where no one

952
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: has to be a true alpha. Then I would like

953
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 1: Jamison Williams a lot. But I think that there's a

954
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: lot of places that he could go where I wouldn't

955
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: like him too much. And he didn't feel as well

956
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: rounded to me as some of these other guys, so

957
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: he's a little lower for me. So of of the

958
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: the top tier guys, and when you talk about some

959
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 1: guys being situation dependent, is there one that you feel

960
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 1: like really does have to land in the right situation

961
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:20,720
Speaker 1: in order to be their most productive. Jamis and Williams

962
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: would be pretty high on that list. Another one that

963
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: I think stands out to me, and it's kind of

964
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: for similar reasons is George Pickens. Um. One of the

965
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,919
Speaker 1: one of the standout things for me and my notes

966
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: on him is again, he has the speed. He is

967
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: a monster, deep threat, but he kind of needs to

968
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 1: be thrown open because I didn't see him get open

969
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: on his own enough like Chrysal LaVey does, like Garrett

970
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: Wilson did. Um, he's most dangerous as like a timing threat.

971
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: So if he can get on a good page with

972
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: a smart quarterback, uh and then they can unlock his speed,

973
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: I think he could be an absolute monster. But if

974
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: he so, For example, Packers and Jets, right, obviously, those

975
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: are two vastly different situations at least in terms of

976
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: quarterback ability. But if Drake London went to the Packers

977
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: versus the Jets, or Chris A Law they went to

978
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: the Packers versus the Jets, I would feel a little

979
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 1: sad if they went to the Jets versus the Packers,

980
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 1: but I would feel like they could still be productive.

981
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: If George Pickens goes to the Packers, I think he

982
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: could be incredible. I think that's one of the best

983
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: landing spots for him, assuming that Aaron Rodgers sticks around

984
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,280
Speaker 1: more than just one year, which is not a given,

985
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 1: but a type of place like that where the quarterback

986
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: is extremely intelligent and able to throw receivers open to

987
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: some degree and then utilize their speed in that way.

988
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: But if he goes somewhere like the Jets, I'm not

989
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 1: touching with a ten foot poll. I don't think he

990
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: can get open well enough. Like Alijah More. I think

991
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: he can succeed in the Jets because he knows how

992
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: to get himself open. George Pickens, for me, doesn't and

993
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson's not throwing anybody open. And the quarterback they

994
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 1: probably draft next year because Zach Wilson is terrible again,

995
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: might not either. So yeah, it's a little This a

996
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: little tough for me. So you were sort of intimating

997
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: that maybe you had a guy in mind you would

998
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 1: like to see the Packers draft. Can you can you

999
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: name who that might be? Uh? I'm okay, honestly, with

1000
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:17,240
Speaker 1: any of the top three that we hit on, Drake London,

1001
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: Chris lave or Garrett Wilson. They're my top three. I

1002
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: think they're most people's top three. In some degree, Trey

1003
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: Burke's shows up in a lot of those. So I like,

1004
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: I like all those options. Um for me and I

1005
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: this is I think, looking at the tea leaves of

1006
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: draft talk lately, I don't know if Drake London will

1007
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: be there that late. So when I mentioned if you

1008
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: really like a guy and you want to package someone together,

1009
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: go up a little bit, it would kind of be

1010
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: for assuming they they view him like I do for

1011
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: Drake London, because again I think he can be that

1012
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: true one. And in fairness, you know, Davante Adams is

1013
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: was less of a speedster and less less of a

1014
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: UM you know, super on route runner and more of

1015
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 1: just a craftsman with an incredible release who had a

1016
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: big body and was very very smart and knew how

1017
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: to get open. And I think Drake London can feel

1018
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: some of those roles. Maybe not as good of a

1019
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 1: separator as Adams was throughout the route in general, but

1020
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 1: bring a lot of those abilities, be that big guy

1021
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 1: and be a true one for the packers. So but

1022
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: again I like, I like a couple other names. I

1023
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 1: like a third name or fourth name. I guess that

1024
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: we haven't even talked about who is kind of a

1025
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: lower on the list guy that we might get to

1026
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: in a bit. So I won't spoil it, uh, but yeah,

1027
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: I would like Drake Lendon the best. There I say this,

1028
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: I'm old enough to remember. When you know, Davante Adams

1029
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: was almost considered a bust right Like as a rookie,

1030
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 1: he struggled to get open. He had a bunch of drops.

1031
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: Everybody's like, what's the problem. This guy's never gonna make it.

1032
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: Now you know, he's arguably the best wide receiver uh

1033
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. Um, all right, so you're

1034
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 1: sort of hinting there's some guys that are a little

1035
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,439
Speaker 1: bit lower on your list. I mean, who's a guy

1036
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: that that maybe we haven't talked about, or maybe who's

1037
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: not getting enough attention that you really have kind of

1038
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 1: fallen in love with. Yeah, so the standout for me,

1039
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: and when you say they're not being talked about too

1040
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,439
Speaker 1: much depends on where you look. Because if you look

1041
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 1: on Fantasy Twitter, sky Moore is getting talked about a lot,

1042
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 1: But if you look outside of Fantasy Twitter, he's really not.

1043
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 1: Um and He's more in like the mid to high

1044
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: second round range for most people than a lot of

1045
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 1: the names we've hit on so far that are being uh,

1046
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 1: you know, mocked in the first round. But I love

1047
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: sky Moore. He's my widey sever four. He's ahead of

1048
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: Trade Berks for me. I think he could be great

1049
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: for the Packers if they want to go this kind

1050
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 1: of receiver, which is a lot different than at Drake

1051
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: London and fits more like the Randall Cobb type of

1052
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: mold than he does the uh Davontae Adams type of mold.

1053
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: But sky Moore is the best word for me for

1054
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: him is punchy. He's super quick and energetic and nimble

1055
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: and tough. A lot. I've seen people compare him to

1056
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: Austin Ekeler almost more than they do to other wide receivers.

1057
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 1: And part of that is his size. He's short and

1058
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 1: kind of squat um and I like that. I like

1059
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: that in in his ability to run after the catch

1060
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: is incredible because of that that that kind of running

1061
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: back mold body type works well for him. He's very shifty,

1062
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: he's very fast, uh and that a lot of that

1063
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: speed which we you know he can threaten deep routes with.

1064
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: He also has incredibly fast comeback ability, which is something

1065
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: that I really like to see because it means if

1066
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:32,240
Speaker 1: you can threaten that speed deep and the dB plays

1067
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: you off and you come back quickly, you're gonna have

1068
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 1: a first down every single time. And if you have

1069
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 1: theat ability which sky More has, you're gonna have four

1070
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: yards of separation from that dB. You're gonna be able

1071
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: to get around him, and then you have a lot

1072
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: of open field. So I really like sky More. I

1073
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: think that I think that he should go in the

1074
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: first round. We'll see if he does. Um, I think

1075
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: he'll still be there for the Packers. So the best

1076
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: case scenario for me for the Packers is they get

1077
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,439
Speaker 1: like an a Lava and a sky More with those

1078
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 1: later two picks and don't even have to trade up

1079
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: for Drake London. But I think he could be great

1080
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: in a lot of different places, and I think that

1081
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: he kind of fits this role that the NFL is

1082
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: starting to explore a little bit more, especially with a

1083
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,839
Speaker 1: guy like Deebo Samuel, where he can do a lot

1084
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: of different things, be using a lot of different ways

1085
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 1: and use yak to win more than you know the

1086
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: olden days of jump up and win that we used

1087
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: to see a lot more so as we're as we're

1088
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:32,280
Speaker 1: looking at this right now, Um, how many wide receivers

1089
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 1: would you expect come off the board in the first round?

1090
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: I mean I'm seeing maybe seven, eight potentially, and it

1091
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: seems like the top end. How many would you expect

1092
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: to see that? Yeah, I've seen mostly in the five

1093
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: to six range, and I think that it's most likely

1094
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: that we follow one of those two numbers, five or six. Um.

1095
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 1: I think most of the guys you know that you

1096
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: brought up are going to go in the first round.

1097
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 1: And the question mark whether it gets up to six,

1098
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: seven or eight. Is our guys like sky More we're

1099
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:03,439
Speaker 1: going to go there? Another guy like is Jalen Tolbert. Um,

1100
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: there's some questions that Metchi might go that high given

1101
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: his ability even though he got injured. So yeah, it's

1102
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot. UM. I would guess five or six,

1103
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,879
Speaker 1: but it could be more. And the question is just

1104
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: who's going to be the best of that group, because

1105
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: there's gonna be plenty of options or they all gonna

1106
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: be great. Yeah, it should be interesting. Um, you know,

1107
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like maybe the top end

1108
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 1: of this draft class isn't maybe quite as talented as

1109
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: the top end of other draft classes, but maybe it's

1110
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 1: as or more deeper uh that some of the other

1111
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 1: recent draft classes. So it should be fun, it should

1112
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: be interesting, and definitely looking forward to it. It It all

1113
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: kicks off eight days from now in beautiful Las Vegas,

1114
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,919
Speaker 1: so we will we will definitely talk more about that

1115
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: once these guys have homes. It's it's sort of fun

1116
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 1: to talk about this now, Matt, but it's a lot

1117
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,760
Speaker 1: more fun to talk about it when these guys actually

1118
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 1: have homes, uh, and we can kind of start to

1119
00:55:56,239 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: figure out how their skill sets work in their respective offenses. So, uh,

1120
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: always appreciate it, man. Always always a good conversation. I

1121
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: always appreciate you jumping in when you have a chance.

1122
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: Always appreciate being on I love talking while receivers and

1123
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 1: apparently Kardashians. Yeah, Kardashians is too. I know, like you know,

1124
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 1: I know you're you're kind of off doing your own thing.

1125
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: Is there are is there stuff that folks should be

1126
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 1: paying attention to? Are you are you brewing something up

1127
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 1: for for the draft? Uh? No, I'm I'm relaxing mostly

1128
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: I'll be back working at the network for the draft,

1129
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,399
Speaker 1: so I'll be doing that, but for the most part

1130
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 1: of I'm gonna be I'm gonna be actually taking a

1131
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,959
Speaker 1: draft to watch and enjoy for once this year, which

1132
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,879
Speaker 1: is awesome. We'll we'll definitely enjoy it, and I'm sure

1133
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 1: we will talk again uh in a very near future.

1134
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 1: So anyway, go check him out if you don't already,

1135
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: should follow him in matt Okada. I'm sure that even

1136
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 1: once the draft is over, I'm sure he'll have something

1137
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 1: interesting about some of these guys and where they land too,

1138
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 1: so I'll be sure to check him out there. In

1139
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 1: the meantime for us I'm doing for this edition of

1140
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: this uh NFL Fantasy Football podcast. They happy, safe and healthy,

1141
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:59,800
Speaker 1: do good and live well. Talk to you next week.

1142
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Speaker 1: Want I Want day Father I co