1 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: Welcome you in to b p A episode ten, the 2 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: best podcast available. It is episode ten, right, Gribbs, It 3 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: is ten days into practice, recapping a day out here 4 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: in Maria with pads, but a day that you know, 5 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,919 Speaker 1: there was a little somberness in the air with everything 6 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: that has gone on with this football team in the 7 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: last twenty four hours, really forty eight hours if you 8 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: go back to the madness on Sunday, and then all 9 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: of the injuries that happened yesterday, especially in the secondary, 10 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: and now the news that Grant Delpit is out for 11 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: the year with a torn achilles a devastating blow. Gribbs. 12 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: I think if if you want to know how much 13 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: he was meaning to this defense and what his role 14 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: was gonna be in, look no further than Joe Woods 15 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: and some of the comments, poignant comments that he made 16 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: today to the media. Yeah, I mean that the big 17 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: takeaway from what Joe Wood said was that, you know, 18 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: he's got to maybe recalibrate what what the kind of 19 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 1: formations they'll be looking at this year on defense and 20 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: just the use of three three safeties, whether you go 21 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: with that look or go with more of a traditional 22 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: uh look because of the strengths of your defense, and 23 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: he clearly was going to play a valuable role. And 24 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: and really Delpat's injury is kind of just the the 25 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: I hope, what is the final moment of just this 26 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: barrage of injuries that this team has been dealing with 27 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: so far through camp. You look at today's list, the 28 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: Browns had twelve players not practicing because of injuries. Today 29 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: a thirteen player, Chad Thomas left practice today with the 30 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: neck injury. And then you throw in Jarvis Landry's not hurt, 31 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: but you know he's only able to practice halfway and 32 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: then has to go inside and work with trainers as well. 33 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: So uh, not ideal. Uh nothing really has been ideal 34 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: the last three or four days, or really since the 35 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: last six months. But these are the circumstances that the 36 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: Browns are dealing with right now, and uh, just a 37 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: big early dose of adversity. And it's one of those 38 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 1: things where you don't have like a preseason game to 39 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 1: kind of get you over the humper a moment in 40 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: camp to kind of serve as like a way to 41 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: overcome all this. You just have to get through it 42 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: and kind of slog through it. And I think that's 43 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: what the Browns are doing right now going into this 44 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: offt day. It was interesting coach to Fanski after practice 45 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: talking with the media, you know, taking in the stride 46 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: number one with the injuries, not no one's gonna feel 47 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: sorry for you, next man up. All the mentality that 48 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: we understand and know throughout the National Football League when 49 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: there is an injury or a lot of injuries. Um, 50 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 1: but he also said, you know, we're hitting the mile 51 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: post and we're you know, we're We're still gonna have 52 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: some ups and downs as we work our way through this. 53 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: And boy, I I thought it was a little bit 54 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: of a rough day for the offense. I don't know 55 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: how you felt about it, but um, the offense has 56 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: looked good at times, it has not looked good at times. 57 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: Today one of those times where the peaks and valleys, 58 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: maybe more so the valley today for the offense as 59 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: they tried to figure out this offense. And I'll get 60 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: up to speed together. Yeah, I would agree. I think 61 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: it was just uh off schedule maybe is what it 62 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: seemed like. It wasn't like there was like it seemed 63 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: like there was guys in maybe wrong places or that's 64 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: not on the same page. And then when they were 65 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: on the same page, you saw balls go off the 66 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: hands or receivers and into the defensive bac scenes Karl 67 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: Joseph had a nice day for the defense, getting a 68 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: couple in her interceptions, and you know, I'll spin this positively. 69 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: I thought the defensive backs, with all the circumstances they're 70 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: dealing with right now, held their own. It wasn't like 71 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: guys were getting wide open or any blown coverages there. 72 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: They were playing pretty well. The one positive that came 73 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: out of it we saw a nice little completion from 74 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield or Shard Higgins at the end of pray, 75 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: just for a touchdown at the end of a two 76 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: minute drill. But for highlights, that was that was really 77 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: about it. I still think it's right now a mix 78 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: of teaching, installing and kind of working things out and 79 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: seeing what this team does well. I will say this, 80 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: this team we I think is going to run the 81 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: ball very well. I didn't really run the ball much today, 82 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: so I think that there was a focus on the 83 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: passing game, and it just things weren't clicking the way 84 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: you wanted to see him right now. But you take 85 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: the off day and go in and try to attack 86 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: this over the next four days after the off day. Yeah, 87 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: I mean that's you've reached your your second milestone here 88 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: in this ramp up period in terms of the day 89 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 1: off coming. The only that the issue is Sunday. You 90 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: didn't practice yesterday. You lost your entire back end of 91 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:50,679 Speaker 1: your defense basically. Uh So it's been a little tough 92 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: on the second stretch of practices in this ramp up period. 93 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: You mentioned Richard Higgins, a guy that we haven't talked 94 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: a whole lot about. You know, we've talked about Candarrel 95 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: Hodge and he's had some ups and downs and uh 96 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: Donovan People's jones and you know, some of these other 97 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: wide receivers were Shard Higgins quietly starting to stack a 98 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,559 Speaker 1: few days together, although his offensive coordinator Alex Van Pelton 99 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: had some really high praise for him as well today 100 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: after practice. Yeah, I thought it was a quiet start 101 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 1: to camp. But but he's shown up these last couple 102 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 1: of days with a couple of big plays, and I 103 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: think that he really has been predominantly that third receiver 104 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: with the starting group over these last few days. I 105 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: don't know if Hodge's absence from practices had something to 106 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 1: do with that, but I think he's taken advantage of it. 107 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,799 Speaker 1: I think that the catches he's made to have been 108 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: not the easiest catches to execute, and I think he's 109 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: he's performed well in that role. As I'll mention over 110 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: and over here, it's really hard getting used to seeing 111 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 1: him in that number eight too. I just have to 112 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: do a double take every time I'm like, is that 113 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: Higgins out there? I just I just associate him with 114 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: the eighty one, but that's not Austin Hooper. But it 115 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: was good to see that connection there at the under 116 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: practice because there really wouldn't have been much to talk 117 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 1: about had that not happened, and it would have been 118 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: a rough for the offense with with the struggles that 119 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: it had in the two mentoral earlier in the day. 120 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: Our offensive corn inter Alex Faith helped also with some 121 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: praise for Nick Harris and the job that he has done. 122 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: He said this on Brown's Live earlier today. But some 123 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: praise for Higgins, some praise for Harris. What are you 124 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 1: seeing from this offensive line here in this second stretch 125 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: of practices in the ramp up? Well, I just think that, 126 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: like I mentioned earlier, I think they're gonna be good 127 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: running the ball. I think they have the types of 128 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: players that will allow them, especially when you look at 129 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: that right side, when you get maybe even Batonio pulling 130 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: on that side, why teller Jack Conklin. I think they're 131 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: solid in that regard. I just think that it's it's 132 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: a little bit inconsistent with the heat we've seen on 133 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield in that defensive line, which is very talented 134 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,119 Speaker 1: and giving them all they can have. And you're breaking 135 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: in a rookie at left tackle against the Pro Bowl 136 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: veteran uh and Olivia Arning, So you're gonna have those 137 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: moments in practice that I think that the focus is 138 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: always gonna be on Wills this season at at left 139 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: tackle because he he's the one that's going to get 140 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: better with each week. But you just got to weather 141 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: the storm that is going to be a rookie at 142 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: left tackle who's making the adjustment from right tackle the 143 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: left tackle. So uh, there's a lot on his plate, 144 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: a lot on this entire team's plate. But I feel 145 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: I feel good about the offensive line special when you 146 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: get you get the ball, Nick Chubb and cream ONTs hands, 147 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: I think that plays to their strengths right now. You know, 148 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: it's a rough day for the offense when Hooper drops 149 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: a few balls. Yeah, that was I'll call that an 150 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: aberration or aberration for right now. I mean he's he's 151 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: at a heck of a camp. I mean the tight 152 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: end room in general has been has been fantastic. Yeah, 153 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: I just think you know, it was a rough day 154 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: for the offense. Put it to bed, move forward, and 155 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: as O'Dell said, you try to go one and oh 156 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: the next time you go out there and take it 157 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: one day at a time and even one hour at 158 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: a time. The way things have been changing across the 159 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: NFL landscape. On the defensive side of the football. We 160 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: talked a little bit about him yesterday, but Jordan Elliott 161 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: continues to impress as Phillips the rookie linebacker. As those 162 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: two continue to get some additional reps, starting to see 163 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: some things from those two that are pretty positive. Yeah, 164 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: I would say both are long term pieces in this defense. 165 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: And I think that both depending on what goes on 166 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: your defensive line. That we saw Larry ogun Joe Be 167 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: come back today, so you had your starters back in 168 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: the middle the defensive line. But clearly Jordan Lays showed 169 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: a lot there with those opportunities in Jacob Phillips, you know, 170 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: probably your long term answer at that position depending on 171 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: how long Mac Wilson is out, So the faster Jacob Phillips, 172 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: Phillips catches on, the better off this defensive b boat. 173 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: You know, we've seen a lot of good things from 174 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: both him and Taki Taki outside of b. J. Goodson 175 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: in the middle there that makes you think that clearly 176 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: this linebacker corps is maybe the least experienced in the 177 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: entire NFL right now, but you've seen flashes and and 178 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: and seen some good moments from them so far in camp. 179 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: Uh now we just see that, you know, you you 180 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: get thrown into the fire week one with probably your 181 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: toughest test as a linebacking corps that you're going to 182 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: face all season. Lar Jackson, the ratings, I mean it 183 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: really you almost can't judge what we see from this 184 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: group week one because that is that was that was 185 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: a team that gave the veteran linebackers, this team at 186 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: last year a lot of trouble. Well and again, as 187 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: we've talked about, it requires a totally separate um play call. Essentially, 188 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:23,359 Speaker 1: I mean, your game plan is different than any other team. 189 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: You know, you tweet things weekend and week out, but 190 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: when you play Baltimore, it's a totally different game plan 191 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: when you have a quarterback like Lamar Jackson. So there 192 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: will there will be some challenges all right in that 193 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: corner room right now, who are you looking at over 194 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: these next few days, because clearly guys aren't going to 195 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: be back. Although money Mitch was doing a lot of 196 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 1: calisthetics today and look like you know, he was very 197 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: much into practice and I think he understands that the 198 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: opportunity that he has with all of these guys down. 199 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: But it definitely sounds like Greedy Williams might be out 200 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,719 Speaker 1: for a little bit. Uh uh. Still a lot to 201 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: be determined, but Greedy could miss a few days here, 202 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: and some opportunities for Terence Mitchell to move up and 203 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: get his reps as well as Kevin Johnson's rose. Yeah, 204 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: it'd be it'd be good to see both Mitchell. I 205 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: mean three guys, Mitchell, uh, Johnson and Stewart. If you 206 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: can get all those guys back, I think you're here 207 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: in good shape. The player that has stepped up I 208 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: think is is Donovan and Loumba. Who who's filling in 209 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: for for Greedy williams Now. I mean he is he 210 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: looks the part of kind of that big lanky corner 211 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: that you like to have. He's six ft two two 212 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: five pounds, and he he looks the part of of 213 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: what like the modern corner has become in the NFL. 214 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: And I think he's got a good shot of making 215 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 1: this team. And he was a you don't see too 216 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: many guys get signed in March who have never played 217 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: the game, but that was that was an interesting signing 218 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: by the Browns. I mean right around the same time 219 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: he signed Joe Joe Natson. So he was someone they 220 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: targeted early in free agency to get in the building. Uh. So, 221 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: I think they clearly see something they like in him. 222 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: Uh And he's someone I would watch it as someone 223 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: who even if Creedy comes back here soon, someone that's 224 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: gonna have a role in that defense I think this year. Yeah, No, 225 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: I would agree with that. Who else in the corner 226 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: room right now? You know, we talked about Donnie Lewis 227 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: getting getting some reps the late round pick last year 228 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: for the Browns, But who else can we be looking 229 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: at in this corner room over the next over the 230 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: next week here as guys slowly start to come back 231 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: from injury. Yeah, I mean it's I mean you look 232 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: at in the slot your options behind Kevin Johnson, there's 233 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: Donnie Lewis, and then there's a j Green, the undrafted 234 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 1: rookie out of Oklahoma State, who he's another player that 235 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: can help you, uh in the slot. And I just 236 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: think when you go back to the safety position, your 237 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: options really behind Sindejo and Karl Joseph right now, start 238 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 1: with Shaddick red Wine, and then a whole bunch of 239 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: unproven guys. I mean you you you've they've Joe Woods complemented, 240 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: Elijah Benton and Javonte Moffitt, but those both those guys 241 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: are undrafted players. And then j T Hassell really only 242 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: played on special teams last year and got a couple 243 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: of snaps here and there when the Browns are really 244 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: decimated in the back of the defense. So the free 245 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: agency process, you're looking at like a five day period 246 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: where you can react to these injuries in terms of 247 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 1: getting guys in the protocol, working them out, and then 248 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: deciding if you're ready to go. So as we saw 249 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: with the Mac Wilson Mack Wilson injury. It took about 250 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: five or six days to to make that adjustment and 251 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 1: bringing Malcolm Smith. So we'll see if you can maybe 252 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: by Saturday or Sunday, if you're looking for options outside 253 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: of the building, Uh, that that's when it might come. 254 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: But earlier than that, it's just impossible to do right 255 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: now in our current client. I was gonna say that 256 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: was where I was going next. It's almost a five 257 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: day period. If someone's not with a team and you 258 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: go and trade for him, it's it's a good three 259 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: to five days at least before they can be in 260 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 1: your building. Yeah, And that's why I think, like if 261 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: you look at the waiver wire every day, you see 262 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: these team workouts, and it's like each team is like 263 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: devoting a day to a position group. I saw one 264 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: team the other day work out like five guards or 265 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: something like that, and I don't know if they're signing 266 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: any of them right then, but it's almost like you 267 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: need to have them in your rolodex ready to go 268 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: so that you don't maybe have to wait for that 269 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: period to get them locked up if you need it. 270 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: And so I think that that's that's something that teams 271 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: are having to adjust their strategy with. But I mean, 272 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: if this was the old ways, you might have a 273 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: new safety ready to go by Thursday's practice. And I 274 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: just don't think that's possible right now. I mean, crazier 275 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: things can happen, but I think you just have to 276 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: go through this entire process to get these guys ready 277 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: to go. Uh and in your building. So uh more 278 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: reps for for undrafted guys, More more reps for shutter Gadwine, 279 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: who I think now is in a prime position to 280 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: to play a pretty big role in this defense. And 281 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: and we'll see what kind of moves Andrewberry in the 282 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: front office kind of cook up here to replace a 283 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: player in Grant Delpitt, who I mean it is almost 284 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: assuredly after the season. You know that now, and you 285 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: have to plan that way. I think the one thing 286 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: that we that that has gone overlooked, not necessarily by us, 287 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 1: but be a little bit. All of these injuries, and 288 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of I started reading through them. 289 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: About a minute from now, we might be wrapping up 290 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: the injury report. Um, the the issues that all of 291 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: these injuries caused for special teams and Mike Preefer, who 292 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: now really has his work cut out for him over 293 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks. Yeah, I mean a lot 294 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: of these guys were involved in some way, shape or 295 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: form with those units. And it's just even when you 296 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: go down to something as simple as like your extra 297 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: points or things like that, were you know, someone like J. C. 298 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: Treader is probably gonna be your center on the field. 299 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: And it's just there's just a lot of a lot 300 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: of players involved in all these processes. But special teams 301 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: coaches at least are are used to this. They're they're 302 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: they're always shuffling guys in and out because they're at 303 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: the mercy at the bottom of the roster. So probably no, 304 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: no huge adjustments for Mike Preefer. But it's just a 305 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: lot of this is just not idea. I mean, it's 306 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: not ideal that to be missing this many guys at 307 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: this part of training camp and not great, you know, 308 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: under the circumstances to be in solving brand new offenses 309 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: and brand new defenses. But again, as the Pants he said, 310 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: no one's gonna feel sorry for the Browns. It's just 311 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: gonna be something where this team could look a lot 312 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: different week six than it does week one, and it's 313 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: just gonna be how you handle the adversity that comes 314 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: with some of these games and maybe some of the 315 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: successes in the surprise moments that you're able to the 316 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: positive moments you can have. So they just have to 317 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: build up, figure out what they're good at right now 318 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: going into week one, and kind of building there all right, 319 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: speaking of positive moments, cornerback Kevin Johnson a lacerated liver 320 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: not even a week ago. I believe it happened at 321 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: Wednesday's practice, So yes, yeah, I mean back out on 322 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: the field today, not practicing obviously, but in uniform, watching 323 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: practice with his helmet on. I give that guy a 324 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: lot of credit. Pretty impressive, and it's something that we've 325 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: taked ked about. Alacerated kidney and elacerated liver are two 326 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: very different things, obviously. Yeah, I'm not a medical professional. 327 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: You're not a medical professional, but from everybody we've talked to, 328 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: lacerated livers seem to heal a lot quicker than a 329 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: lacerated kidney. Yeah, and I still think he's probably weeks. 330 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: I think that, as I said, a week to week thing. 331 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: I just I mean, I truly this is a this 332 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: is a new one. I mean, I just don't know 333 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: what what you're able to do, what you're not able 334 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: to do, Like what does what does rehab look like 335 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: on your way back? Because it's not like an external 336 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: body parts you wonder, it's just I imagine it's just 337 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: a lot of eas ng into things and then monitoring 338 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: and making sure everything's okay. That would be my guest. 339 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: But good to see him out there. It's always the 340 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: opinion where if the guys out there on the practice field, 341 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: they might be getting closer to getting back. I mean 342 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: that's usually the theory, and that unless you're someone like 343 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: I think J. C. Treader, who I think is going 344 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: through some some rehabbing and getting all that stuff done. 345 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: All the teams out in the practice so everyone's different. 346 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: We'll see what happens with Kevin Johnson. And clearly you 347 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: wouldn't you wouldn't be talking about this guy as much 348 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: as we have if we weren't impressed with what he did. 349 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: And I think that those first five days were very 350 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: impressive on his part. Uh And clearly with what Joe 351 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: Woods mentioned about incorporating Nickel and Dime, I mean, this 352 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 1: is going to be a player when when he's back 353 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: in healthy. He's gonna have a pretty big role on 354 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: this team. Alright, So five days and a day off. 355 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: It was supposed to be four days or Yeah, they 356 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: had a little bit of a practice on Sunday, Uh, 357 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: Monday and Tuesday practice. So we're off Wednesday and then 358 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: four days and then an off day and we'll kind 359 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: of see where things go from there. What are your 360 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: expectations here over this next stretch for this team? Where 361 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: does this team need to go? What are you looking 362 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: for from this football team as they continue to wrap 363 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 1: up to Uh, you know, by the time we get 364 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: to this coming Sunday will be two weeks out from 365 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: a football game. No, I mean this is this is 366 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,959 Speaker 1: where you should be peaking in your preseason because this 367 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 1: would have been the dress rehearsal weekend game, correct, right, 368 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: I mean this this would have been Stefanski versus his 369 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: old team at First Energy Stadium on in a nationally 370 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 1: televised game. That's what that was supposed to be. Uh. 371 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: And so this should be where you should be hitting 372 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 1: your stride and getting getting your your guys that you're 373 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: counting on as much looks as possible. And I think 374 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: we've already seen that. I think we've mentioned on the 375 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 1: side just the deviation of reps in camp have not 376 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: looked like a normal training camp. I think like even 377 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: like a guy like Garet Gilbert, the third quarterback, we 378 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: don't see much of at all or And and really 379 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,239 Speaker 1: not much of anyone else in that quarterback room. It's 380 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: been a lot of Baker and a lot of Case 381 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: and and that's pretty much it. Because you're rolling with 382 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: your offense and your defense that you want to get 383 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: get ready for the season. So you know, I just 384 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: I just want to see the hitting that kind of 385 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: ramp up in the actual training camp part of this 386 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: that you see usually in the August twentie range. I 387 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: think we're gonna be seeing that in the next few days, 388 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: and then you're getting in the game prep mode and 389 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: we'll we'll see how things get really locked in and 390 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 1: and and really how dialed back. Potentially, these playbooks are 391 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball, because you just have 392 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: to focus on what your team knows, what you're comfortable 393 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 1: running with. You don't want them running stuff they've never 394 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 1: even run in practice before by the time that the 395 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: game starts to count. So just honing in on what 396 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: you're good at and getting that ready to go U 397 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: for week one and build from there. Yeah, because at 398 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: some point you want to start to I don't want 399 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: to see you want to ramp it back, but you 400 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: you do start ramping back the physicality and you start going, Okay, 401 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: I need to get these guys ready. So on Labor 402 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: Day Monday is at the seventh I think I think 403 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: I might be the seventh Monday, the seventh team shows 404 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: up first workout. Officially it's week so ten day still 405 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 1: roster cuts. Yeah, that's crazy. That that is very crazy. 406 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: Is there a player or a position group you're most 407 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: interested in watching over these next four days. I mean 408 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: I would guess the wide receivers because I think we 409 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: know what's going on with Jarvis O'Dell. They're fine. We 410 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: think Richard's in a good position. But you wonder, could 411 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: there a Hodge comes back? Uh if he gets back 412 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: in the mix. You have Donovan, People's Jones, and then 413 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: you you've got decisions to make with Taywan Taylor, d 414 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: J Montgomery, Jama Warre. There's a lot of players in 415 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: this room. It feels like it's like the one room 416 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: where everyone is closest to healthy. I mean, Damian Ratley 417 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: hasn't practiced, and I think he we thought he was 418 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: competing for a third receiver spot, but there's just he 419 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: has been out there. So there's a lot of guys 420 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: in that room for we don't know how many spots. 421 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: We don't know if this is gonna be a five 422 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: man group or six man group. Uh, we don't just 423 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: because simply we haven't seen a ton of three receiver 424 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: look out there, especially not not many four receiver books. 425 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: So that's a group there. I truly don't have much 426 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: of a read on it, as much as we see 427 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: a lot of guys out there, because they're all getting 428 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: out there in certain reps. I mean we've seen Jamon Moore, Montgomery, 429 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: and Montgomery out there a decent amount. So I don't know. 430 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: I truly don't know what the pecking orders in that 431 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: group beyond that top two. Yeah, I think it's that's 432 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: one to watch. I think watching this linebacker room to 433 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: see who's stepping up, because again, it's not just Mack 434 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: Wilson that's dinged up. You know, there are a couple 435 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: other guys that are dinged up, and who's gonna play 436 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: in what formations, And I think it would have been 437 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: interesting to see how Grant delp It might have been used, 438 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: uh in that situation, maybe moving up toward that linebacker area. Um. 439 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: But um, it will be interesting to see how that 440 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: position group goes forward because the defensive line is doing 441 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: quite well. Um. Obviously the secondary is a position of 442 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: concern right now, depending on how long Greedy's out and 443 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 1: when you can get money Mitch back. Um. But at 444 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: the same time, they seem to hold their own today, 445 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: so we'll we'll kind of see if that still is 446 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: the case come Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. Looking forward to it. 447 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: Player day off on Wednesday. Uh, make sure you log 448 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 1: on Cleveland Browns dot com or wherever you get your podcasts, 449 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: like and subscribe today to the best podcast available. Also 450 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: check us out on YouTube YouTube dot com Slash Browns. 451 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: We're back with you on Thursday. We'll have a little 452 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: coach interview and a few other things as well as 453 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 1: we start to wind down. 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