WEBVTT - Sports with Coleman 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:05.400 Kaboom. If you thought four hours a day, minutes a 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:09.120 week was enough, I think again. He's the last remnants 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:12.400 of the old republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:15.440 treats crackheads in the ghetto Cutter the same as the 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:19.759 rich pill poppers in the penthouse the Clearinghouse of Hot 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:23.560 takes break free for something special. The Fifth Hour with 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:33.720 Ben Maller starts right now in the air everywhere, Yet 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:38.880 another weekend is upon us. The Fifth Hour with Ben 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:43.440 Mallard back at it. Because four hours a night, five 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:45.760 days a week clearly not enough. So we do this 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:51.200 eight days a week. And if it is a Friday podcast, 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:57.440 that would be today, the weekend before Thanksgiving holiday. It's 0:00:57.480 --> 0:01:02.720 a chance to catch up with someone who I either 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:05.880 know or want to talk to. In this case, it's 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:09.280 someone that I know, a radio pal, someone who I've 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:13.800 never actually physically met, but have been friends with for 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:17.399 over twenty years. I have known. This guy is a 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:21.800 fellow sports talk radio gas bag. He hosts Sports with 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:27.120 Coleman on in the nighttime hours in Baltimore six to ten. 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:31.200 He has covered the Ravens and the Baltimore Orioles for 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:34.080 a long time. We have sparked, I go on his 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:38.000 radio show. Occasionally. I'll pop up on his show and 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:41.480 he uh, this is his first appearance on this show. 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:45.440 But let's give it up now for Sports with Coleman. 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:49.160 Jerry Coleman is his name, and sports talk radio is 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:53.720 his game. So, Jerry, how long have we known each other? 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:58.840 I think it began in the early two thousands, I 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:01.520 want to say, but it might have been even earlier 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:03.960 than that. I'm not sure. I want to say early 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:07.520 two thousands, Jerry, phil me and when was it? It 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:10.400 was actually prior to that, Ben, and thanks for having 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:13.000 me on. I can now update my resume and add 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:15.560 this to it. It should be uh, you know, enough 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:17.360 to get me a much better job than I have 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:20.920 right now. But no, it goes back to a local 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:23.600 l A station you were working at one that of 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:26.560 course started with a K. I can't remember the rest 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:28.880 of the call letters, but you would make the calls 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:32.240 to the little stringers around the country and say, hey, 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:34.440 can you come on and during I think it was 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:38.160 the Angels broadcast or pregame show and give us an 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:41.560 update from Camden Yards was where I was back in 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:44.200 the day. It was a memorial stadium but you would 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:47.120 arrange for that, and then you became, you know, a 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:49.240 lot more high profile and than have time to do 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:52.160 the dirty work. Wow, I don't even remember that. My 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:54.880 memory is so bad, Jerry, I don't. I just remember 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:58.720 you doing stuff. It fucked. We we don't even use 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:01.440 stringers anymore. I don't think it. Fox Sports Radio, like 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:04.440 we at most places have kind of gone away from that. 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:07.720 But we we have similar backgrounds, Like we both did 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:11.960 that for a long time, and I have great memories 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:15.560 and also some terrible memories of doing that. But I 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:20.040 was at games every single night, and it was it 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:22.799 was awesome. And in those days you had a lot 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:25.160 of access to the locker room and stuff, which was 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:27.600 I think Jerry, you would agree a blessing and a 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:29.680 curse at the same time. Some of the stuff that 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:33.840 took place behind the scenes very interesting. There were there 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:38.680 were numerous clubhouse encounters with me and players and managers, 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:42.720 and too many to probably tell the time during this podcast. 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:45.880 But yeah, that's where I learned the protocols of you know, 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:48.200 when you can and can't go into a locker room. 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:51.560 I was always very aggressive, so I didn't ask. I 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:54.520 just begged for forgiveness after. You know, there was one 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:57.839 time actually when they were the Red Skins and Joe 0:03:57.880 --> 0:04:00.640 Gibbs was coaching them back in the nineties. They were 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:05.080 playing the Dallas Cowboys at RFK Stadium. I'm talking football now, 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:08.600 and I didn't know that NFL locker rooms were closed 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:12.760 before the games starts. So I strolled into the Redskins 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:16.320 locker room. There was no gate guard whatsoever. But once 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:18.799 they found out I was in there, all heck broke 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:22.640 loose and I was escorted out. I was chided by PR. 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:25.560 I was told never to enter an NFL locker room 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:28.240 before the game or without a PR person. So I 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:30.720 learned a harsh lesson there. But yeah, that's where I 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:33.360 cut my teeth as being a stringer. You know. We 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:35.960 made a joke about it at the time. You would 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:39.360 make maybe thirty thousand dollars a year, fifty dollars at 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:41.680 a time. Yeah, no, it was, It was true. And 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:45.159 it was like every remember after the work stoppage in 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:49.719 the baseball strike in ninety four, when they came back 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:53.839 in ve and being in l A there were two teams, 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:56.640 it was like every they no days off, And I'm 0:04:56.640 --> 0:04:59.280 such an idiot I never took a day off even 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:01.400 back then. I was I gotta show up and we 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:04.599 needed to as a stringer because you made no money 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:06.400 and the other thing. And I don't know if this 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:09.400 ever happened to you, Jerry, being in Baltimore and going 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:12.559 to games in d C and stuff. At some point 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:16.760 to try to make a decent amount of money, you 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:18.960 had to use I had to work for a bunch 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:21.720 of different networks, right your So you'd work for your 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:24.240 local station. And then I remember at one time I 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:28.719 was working for sports Fan Radio ESPN Radio. How about 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:30.599 that in the early days when they had stuff on 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:34.600 the weekends with Tony Bruno, Peter Brown, and Chuck Wilson. 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:37.600 I did stuff with those guys, and and there was 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:40.719 one on one sports I think out of Chicago was 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:42.560 around for a while, and there were a bunch of 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:45.200 these things. But did you ever have I had one 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:47.920 of the most embarrassing moments I had I've ever done. 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:49.480 I was in the press box and I was doing 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:53.000 these updates from Dodger Stadium, and you know, they're thirty 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:55.960 second updates whatever. So I'm doing the update and I 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:59.080 nailed it, and I was like, you know, sports Fan 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:02.080 radio network. Can I slam the phone down? And it 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:05.040 wasn't the Sportsman Radio network, it was a different network, 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:08.240 and oh man, I would write down the name of 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:10.760 the station because it was U P I, it was 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:13.960 a P. It was the fan in New York. It 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:16.960 was I never worked for Fox Sports Radio. There was 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:19.120 a lady there that didn't like me that would set 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:21.719 up the stringers and she would go with someone else 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:24.080 in the market who came behind me. So that was fine. 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:28.760 But I did ABC and CBS, and at times I 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:32.360 guess it was Westwood One, So yeah, I would have 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:34.359 the name right in front of me. I did not 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:38.839 make that mistake. I was more prone to butchering players names. 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:41.839 In fact, the last time I did one of those 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:46.360 was a Capital's New York Rangers playoff game that went 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:49.880 into triple overtime. I had a morning show the next day. 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:52.360 The reason I went to do it was because, and 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:55.719 here's a name drop alert, Kenny Albert was calling the 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:59.760 game for Rangers Radio and he needed a stat person. Why. 0:06:59.800 --> 0:07:03.080 I have no idea, but the job paid seventy five dollars, 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:05.839 so I took it, and I told him, listen, I 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:08.040 gotta get up at four or five in the morning. 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:11.120 I'm leaving probably midway through the third period, just so 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:14.400 you know. He's like, you're supposed to stay through the 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:16.600 whole game if you want to check. I'm like, just 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:19.160 pay me up front, and I'll be here for close 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:21.720 to three periods. So then we go into overtime. I said, 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:24.440 I'll stick around for the first overtime. Then comes the 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:26.960 second overtime. I stick around a little for that, but 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:29.720 then I leave during a time out and I go 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:32.720 to a remote location and I'm waiting for the game 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:35.040 to end so i can call in the final report. 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:37.600 The goal is scored. The guy who scored the goal 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:40.680 I can't even remember, but I butchered his name so 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:44.280 bad on live New York radio. That was the end 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:46.720 of my career. And when I told Kenny about this, 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:49.520 he couldn't believe it. I literally did the voice or 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:53.440 ben from the lobby of what was called the m 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:57.120 c I Center back then, and then bolted for my 0:07:57.240 --> 0:07:59.600 car and back to Baltimore. But I didn't get home 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:02.560 until like four or five in the morning, and then 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:04.360 was up an hour later, and I said, you know, 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:06.640 I'm getting too old to do this stuff. Yeah, didn't 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:09.640 you tell me you you traveled around you did stats? 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:13.920 Uh for for Kenny right for TV? Right? Yes, I 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:16.680 was his first spot or the first two years. I 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:19.880 think this is year like twenty six or twenty seven 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:23.640 for him, whatever year they started doing the broadcasting. He 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:26.600 and Joe Buck are two among the originals right now. 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:30.280 And his first two years on the job, Fox really 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:33.360 was spending the money under David Hill. They would fly 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:37.440 out the statistician, the spotter. They would put him up 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:39.320 in a hotel for a couple of nights. So I 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:42.120 went out to l A, went out to San Francisco, 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:45.920 did a terrible job in terms of spotting, was fired 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:48.720 after two weeks, but it made a nice living for 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:51.600 two weeks with him, and uh we still remain friends 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:54.959 here twenty five plus years later. But no way he's 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:57.280 gonna hire me to spot a game because I was 0:08:57.320 --> 0:09:02.080 too busy watching the football game myself. So how how 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:05.120 bad were you? Like? What do you remember exactly the 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:08.840 moment you realize this is not good? There were multiple 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:12.040 There were multiple calls where he would just name the 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:15.200 tackler himself instead of waiting for me to point to 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:18.400 the number. Because I was so late in getting to 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:21.480 the number, and the same thing with you know, when 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:24.360 you need someone to tell you who was the assist 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.200 guy and who scored the goal on what the time was. 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:30.880 He had that all calculated before I could write that down, 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:33.840 so I was really not needed. So you're saying that 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:36.720 Kenny Albert has a computer like mind, and you a 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:39.320 little you have a radio mind. You have it, yes, 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:42.200 and uh, and he belittles me at every moment. He 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:45.240 has to have to remind me of that he's superior. 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:47.080 What can I tell you? Yeah, so you need to 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:49.400 come up. I have Mallard math, which is a version 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:52.679 of of actual math. It's a ballpark figure, so you 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:55.200 have you have sports with Coleman math. But I did 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:57.520 learn in those days when I was a stringer and 0:09:57.600 --> 0:09:59.600 I sat near the stat guys that actually knew what 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:01.920 they were doing. And I still to this day some 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:04.840 of that stuff, like when you're breaking down a football game, 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:07.080 some of the numbers are basketball like. I learned a 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:09.560 lot of that stuff in those days when I was 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:11.720 was a stringer. But you mentioned David Hill and the 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:14.840 amount of money that Fox put out, and I met 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:17.720 David Hill a few times. Uh, in the early days 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:20.920 when Fox took over the in the nineties. I was 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:23.600 at we was at a party one time, and uh, 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:27.320 everyone loved David Hill. I don't, I'm not, I'm not. 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:28.839 I'm sure there are people that didn't like him, but 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:31.120 I never met anyone. I mean that the amount of 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:33.560 money You're right that they put out for those those 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:37.400 broadcasts was insane. But I do remember being at the 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:41.240 NHL All Star Game in the mid nineties that Fox 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:45.440 had the rights, and I remember overhearing a conversation and 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:46.960 I don't I will not say who it was with. 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:49.000 It might have been with David Hill, maybe not, but 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:51.160 it might have been somebody else. And they were lamenting 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:53.880 the fact that everything that they had tried to get 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:58.000 people to watch hockey on TV had not worked. Remember 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:01.559 they had that going puck thing that of course, yeah, yeah, 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:04.200 and they were they just couldn't figure it out. They're like, 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:06.160 what do we what do we have to do? They 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:09.839 tried everything, and and here we are all these years later, Jerry, 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:14.160 and still people not flocking to watch hockey on television now, 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:16.080 even though it's moved to T n T and the 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:18.440 guy was calling the game the other night. I didn't 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:20.880 even know that their games start at ten pm. But 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:24.319 he reminded me he was calling his first game from 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:27.080 the Key Arena, home of the Seattle Crack, and he 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:29.800 said he had not been back there since an NBA 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:32.319 game there when the Sonics played there. But yeah, t 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:35.840 n T s starting their hockey now on Thursday or 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:39.319 I'm sorry, on Wednesday evenings at ten pm. And who 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:43.760 knew except the announcer. Yeah, I have not seen any 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:46.599 of those, uh, any of those hockey games. But I 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:51.439 usually wait till like Christmas. Basketball, you definitely wait till Christmas. Absolutely, 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:54.559 but hockey. I love going to hockey. The King's out 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:56.959 here in l A Are not very good, but I 0:11:57.120 --> 0:11:59.000 guess the Ducks are off to a good start. But 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:02.280 you go back in the stringer, back in the stringer days, Ben, 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:05.640 because Baltimore is just a two sport town, and really, 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:07.400 when I was doing a lot of the work, it 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:10.520 was a one sport town. The Colts had bolted for Indianapolis, 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:12.439 which is why I went down the Rhodar f G 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:16.320 just to be around professional football as we were waiting 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:18.439 for a team to come back. And then you had 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:21.560 the Bullets and then Wizards, and of course the Capitals 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:23.760 and I would go to select games there and of 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:27.840 course to about seventy too close to eighty oriole games 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:30.640 a year, just like you with the Dodgers and Angels. Yeah, 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:33.679 and I know you you were born in Atlanta, right, 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:36.920 But have you been in Baltimore your whole career? Have 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:40.480 you been always like a Baltimore radio guy? Pretty much? So? 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:42.920 I was born in Atlanta, lived there the first seven 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:45.720 years of my life. That actually we moved because my 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:48.680 family was in the liquor business. My dad took his 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:53.120 talents to West Hartford, Connecticut, where I lived for three years, 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:57.760 and then in nineteen seventy seven we moved to Baltimore, 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:01.840 and uh, that's where I started elementary school here and 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:04.440 then moved up to middle and high school and then 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:07.440 went to Ithaca College and then out of Ithaca College 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:10.640 because Syracuse wouldn't let me in. That's the reason I'm 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:13.840 not a part of the dreaded Syracuse mafia. Didn't have 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:16.120 the grade point average ben they wanted more than a 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:19.000 two point out for some reason. They also wouldn't let 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:22.400 you start on the college radio station until your junior year. 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:25.640 Where at Ithaca they had a jv and a varsity 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:28.400 there was an a M for the JV and an 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:32.160 FM station for the varsity, and uh I got started 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:34.760 in year one there and then right out of college 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:38.000 started stringing and then started to lay in radio jobs 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:40.560 part time and then eventually full time. Well, it really 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:43.280 is one of the reasons, Jerry, that we have maintained 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:46.240 a friendship for all these years is that you are 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:50.040 not part of the Syracuse mafia. You are not part 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:52.640 of that. Every radio station I've worked at, I've I've 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:55.880 worked odd jobs at different places in sports media, and 0:13:55.920 --> 0:14:00.920 there's always been a handful of Syracuse people that worked there, 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:04.720 especially in the Northeast. Man, my goodness, it is can 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:08.760 escape yeah everywhere. I mean, it is a license to 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:12.160 get a great job. Now, not everyone at Syracuse has 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:15.440 a great job, but I mean the networking, the people 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:18.840 that have come out of Syracuse, it is insane. And 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:21.960 h that college radio station, but I'm proud. So you 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:23.920 didn't go there. You went to a smaller school, and 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:26.760 I went to, of course, the great Saddleback College where 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:30.440 in those of the West, Yes, yes, so I it's 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:33.040 actually the Syracuse the Harvard of the West. But the 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:37.640 cool thing about that is they had a little FM station, 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:41.240 and you know in those days, they've let you right on, 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:43.800 like you took a couple of classes and they put 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:46.160 you on there. Now it's not like that anymore. That 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:51.720 the station's more revenue driven, shall I say, Jarry, you 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:53.960 know they're trying to make some money. Yes, I understand 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:57.440 that a lot of college radio stations have gone that route. Ironically, 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:00.680 what it's supposed to be for the students now for revenue. 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:03.280 But the big guy on campus when I was at 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:07.040 Ithaca was Carl Rabbit. He was a senior. I was 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:10.440 a freshman. He paid me very little attention until he 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:15.120 got a small time TV job in Harrisburg. Excuse me, 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:19.000 Harrisburg TV. We would come to Camden Yards and be 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:22.000 my best friend until he worked for ESPN and then 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:25.200 they never knew me again. Well that's the way it goes, right, 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:28.080 I mean you get to yeah, yeah, we've we've all 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:32.000 been around those people that the little nice and then 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:33.880 when they reached a certain level, there's they're in that 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:35.920 rare fight air and they're like, oh, you're just a 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:38.200 radio guy, get out of here. You know where I'm 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:42.440 a big TV star now, how dare you leave me alone? Yeah? 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:44.920 But we all know guys. We all know guys too 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:48.160 that are at much higher levels than the people I'm 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:51.600 talking about that are also actually nice. You find those 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:54.640 in between, yeah yeah, but we remember the ones that 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:57.200 are mean and douches and things like that. Oh yeah, 0:15:57.240 --> 0:16:00.280 the air holes always stand out to me. Yeah, yeah, 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:03.240 that's a well. It's the same concept with the news business, 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:05.720 right if it's if it's good news, that's at the end, 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:08.880 that's the kicker story at the end. If it's bad news. 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:11.880 That's why I always say you you know this too, Jenny, 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:14.600 from being in those locker rooms. The better stories in 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:16.560 the losing locker room, right you go in there, there 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:19.200 absolutely is. And that's what I miss about going into 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:21.920 the locker room right now is because it is so 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:26.080 I don't know what the word is polished. I guess 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:27.720 as one of the words I can use, and I'll 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:30.840 just reference the local teams like the Ravens. They will 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:34.960 bring out the best talkers, the least controversial players too. 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:37.920 You know, you hear from each and every week unless 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:41.640 you may make a hardsh request, because again, they want 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:44.560 the sanitized version coming out of the locker room. And 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:49.800 when you enter the locker room, PR can't control that. Yeah, yeah, exactly. 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:53.400 And are the locker rooms even open? I know, no, yeah, 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:55.920 yeah they're not open. Only the NHL, i've heard, but 0:16:56.000 --> 0:17:00.840 not the NBA, certainly not football or baseball. Yeah. I 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:05.560 do miss going in there because there would be stuff 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:08.800 that would happen that, as you said, the unexpected right 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:12.199 where you're like you, as you said, everything kind of 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:14.800 filtered now with PR people and stuff, But there'd be 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:18.159 that random day on like a Wednesday night or something, 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:21.000 and you'd get a guy on a on a perfect 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:24.439 moment where he'd rant and complained and and and go 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:27.320 off the deep end, and that would feed the content 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:31.480 for the next several days. Now everything's on zoom and 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:35.320 everything's recorded for posterity's sake, and there's there's not the 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:39.879 one on one doesn't really exist anymore, Nope, because you 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:43.920 have the PR people all standing around monitoring every move 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:46.639 that has made, every word that has said, where they 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:49.760 can't control that. Inside the locker room, you get someone 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:53.440 in a private situation. They don't spread themselves at thin 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:56.399 inside the locker room. So that is what I miss, 0:17:56.480 --> 0:17:58.720 and a lot of the off the record stuff that 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:01.439 is said inside the lock rohom I missed that as well, 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:04.720 so we don't have that right now. Again. I hope 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:08.200 the educated fan, as you like to refer to, understands 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:10.680 that be sure to catch live editions of The Ben 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:13.600 Meller Show weekdays at two a m. Eastern eleven pm 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:18.760 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio. Yeah. Yeah, 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:21.800 exactly as much different. Now, moving on the Great Sports 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:28.000 with Coleman. The greatest contribution, the greatest contribution to sports 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:34.479 entertainment from Baltimore came from Earl Weaver, and I actually 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:36.320 want to play it. I have it here, I've set 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:37.880 it up. We're allowed. I think we're allowed to play 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:40.439 it on the podcast. I will beg for forgiveness if 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:43.040 we're not. But I think we're good to go on this. 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:46.440 It's everyone involved is long gone, so I think we're 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:48.800 good on this. This is for those that haven't heard it, 0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:50.920 and then we're gonna react to it. Maybe I'll stop 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:52.679 it in the middle of it and react to it. 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:57.359 But this is Earl Weaver, the manager's corner, the old 0:18:57.400 --> 0:19:02.240 Hall of Fame manager, the very colorful Earl Weaver. And listen, 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:04.880 this is amazing audio. I don't I don't know when 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:07.840 this was recorded something I know. I know all about this. 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:11.800 I believe the interviewer is a guy named Tom marr Okay, 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:13.920 so this goes back. What are we looking at? Late seventies, 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:17.919 early eighties, probably some late seventies early eighties. All right, 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:21.440 here we go. This is the great Earl Weaver. And 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:26.359 now to the manager's going with Earl Weaver. Hi, everybody, 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:29.800 this is Earl Weaver with Managers Conner. Today. I have 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:33.399 Tom marr oreo broadcaster, back on the show, and I 0:19:33.480 --> 0:19:37.520 understand understand Tom's been getting some mail with questions that 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:40.920 supposedly I can answer. Now what the funk are somebody's 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:44.800 goddamn questions? Tom? Well, first of all, Earl George Moore 0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:46.560 from Ball, we're gonna have to turn that up. Then? 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:49.560 Is that too long? Wait a minute, I cannot hear 0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:52.080 any of that. Really, I heard a little bit of it. Yeah, 0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:54.479 all right, I think that's because you're on the on 0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:56.600 the phone hook up. Let me just playing a little more. 0:19:56.600 --> 0:19:59.000 This is Earl. Let me play a little Earl Weaver there. 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:01.520 I think the the listener Jerry can hear it. But 0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:04.000 the the technical setup that we have here is not 0:20:04.040 --> 0:20:05.879 that great. May play a little bit fine. I know 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:09.080 the conversation almost by heart. Let me play a little 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:11.040 more here, here we go. How much we feel the 0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:15.080 loss of Don Stanhouse. Well, don Stanhouse was an asshole. 0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:17.360 He had us in trouble, had to fucking base as well, 0:20:17.640 --> 0:20:20.320 God damn it. Almost every time he went out there 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:23.240 he liked to ruin my health smoking cigarettes. And thank 0:20:23.280 --> 0:20:25.959 god we got Jimmy Stoddard coming in out the bullpen 0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:28.560 right now sticking a bat up their asses. And that's 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:32.199 what it takes. Well, Bill Whitehouse less certainly is an 0:20:32.200 --> 0:20:34.879 answer from Frederick Maryland wants to know why you and 0:20:34.920 --> 0:20:37.040 the Orioles don't go up and get some more teams, Speed, 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:40.720 team speed, for Christ's sake. You get fucking goddamn little 0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:43.679 pleased on the fucking basis getting picked off, trying to steal, 0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:45.879 get the throwne out, taking runs away from you. You 0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:47.879 get them big cock suckers that you hit the fucking 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:49.560 ball out of the ball puck, and you can't make 0:20:49.560 --> 0:20:53.640 any god damn mistakes. Well, certainly this show is gonna 0:20:53.640 --> 0:20:56.159 get out in history. Earl Terry Elliott of Washington, d C. 0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:57.719 Why And he wants to know why you don't use 0:20:57.800 --> 0:21:01.760 Terry Crowley. As here we go. Well, Terry Terry Crowley's 0:21:01.840 --> 0:21:04.199 lucky he's in fucking baseball. For christ sake. He was 0:21:04.280 --> 0:21:06.760