WEBVTT - Proof that Biden Admin Targeted Christians plus Tucker Spirals Out of Control 0:00:01.280 --> 0:00:01.680 Welcome. 0:00:01.720 --> 0:00:04.520 It is Vertical Center, Ted Cruz ben Ferguson with you. 0:00:04.559 --> 0:00:06.040 It is very nice to have you with us. By 0:00:06.040 --> 0:00:07.960 the way, this episode is also going to be up 0:00:08.000 --> 0:00:09.800 on YouTube as well, so if you want to watch 0:00:09.840 --> 0:00:12.280 the episode, you can watch it. Hit that subscribe button 0:00:12.320 --> 0:00:14.800 there so you don't miss an episode on YouTube that 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:17.280 we do. We've got a lot centered to talk about, 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:21.759 including this headline, the Department of Justice Task Force finds 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:27.800 quote numerous instances of anti Christian government bias under the 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:32.279 Biden administration. This is a massive story basically about the 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:35.040 government going after Christians. 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:39.840 Well, the facts are deeply disturbing. During the Biden administration, 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:42.559 we saw the federal government target people of faith, but 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:46.520 in particular believing Christians, believing Christians were persona non grata 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:49.839 under the Biden administration. And when President Trump came in, 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:53.640 he created a task force chaired by Attorney General Pam 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:58.120 Bondi looking at instances of religious discrimination within our government. 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:00.040 This was the preliminary report. 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:04.720 From that task for force, detailing how multiple government agencies 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:09.160 under the Biden administration targeted Christians for persecution. 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:10.479 We're going to break all that down. 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:13.280 We're also going to talk about a very sad development, 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:17.520 which is the spiral down of Tucker Carlson. Tucker Carlson 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:21.000 continues to get more and more extreme, and this week 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:24.760 he decided to say that he wanted to apologize to 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:29.639 Osama bin Laden's family, and he also said astonishingly enough, 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:32.319 that he didn't know if Hamas was a terrorist organization. 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:36.200 He's just asking questions. Gosh, what has Hamas ever done 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:38.200 to us? It really is sad to see what has 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:41.640 happened to someone who used to be a conservative stalwart. 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:45.440 He used to be not nuts all that on today's pod. 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:47.880 If you've ever listened to the show before, you know 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:50.120 I'm a big advocate for the Second Amendment and I've 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:53.600 shared on numerous occasions how carrying a firearm literally saved 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:56.520 my life from a gang related attack. 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And this task force that was put together 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:03.200 to a dedicate anti Christian bias in our government is 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:07.560 actually chaired by the Attorney General Pambondy, and what they 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:10.960 have found is under the Biden administration, they weaponize the 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:13.560 quote full way of the federal government against Christians that 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:17.320 according to Trump's leadership, they laid out a new report 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:21.640 where there are numerous instances of past anti Christian bias 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:25.880 and recommendations to protect faith in America, especially when it 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:29.040 comes to our federal government going after people of faith. 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:32.560 Well, as you noted, Pambondi, the Attorney General, chairs this 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:35.440 task force. We've had Pambondy as a guest on this 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:39.400 podcast right at the beginning of her tenure, and let's 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:42.119 break down what the task force found. 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:44.440 Here's what Fox News reports. 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:47.599 Quote, the Biden administration weaponized the full weight of the 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:52.400 federal government against Christians, according to Trump leadership, laying out 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:56.479 in a new report the numerous instances of anti Christian 0:04:56.600 --> 0:05:02.480 bias and recommendations to protect faith in America. This report, 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:07.160 the task Force had a clear mandate to ensure that quote, 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:12.000 any unlawful and improper conduct, policies, or practices that target 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:18.000 Christians are identified, terminated, and rectified. And here's what the 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:21.520 task Force says in the overview the damage that can 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:25.000 be done when religious liberty is not protected and preserved 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:30.160 for all Americans. The Task Force makes this commitment. The 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:33.640 federal government will never again be permitted to turn its 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:39.600 power against people of faith. Under President Trump an Attorney 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:42.440 General Bondi's leadership, in partnership with all members of this 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:46.359 task Force, the rule of law will be enforced with vigor, 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:51.160 and every religion will be treated with equality in both 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:56.719 policy and action. And the report adds the days of 0:05:56.760 --> 0:06:00.880 anti Christian bias and the federal government are over. Faith 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:04.680 is not a liability in America, it is a liberty. 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:07.800 And I want to go through their numerous instances of 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:11.360 anti Christian bias that the report lays out. The report 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:14.400 concludes Joe Biden weaponized the full weight of the federal 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:19.160 government against Christians and trampled on their fundamental First Amendment rights. 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:24.279 The task force founded the Department of Defense, the Equal 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:31.000 Employment Opportunity Commission, and the Department of Labor all quote deprioritized, 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:35.880 mishandled or denied requests for religious exemptions to the Bide 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:39.880 administration's COVID nineteen mandate. So that's one aspect where you 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:42.560 had believing Christians that wanted an exception to the COVID 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:45.960 mandate and the Biden administration. If you're a Christian, you 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:50.440 need not apply. The task Force also found that the 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:55.919 Department of Education, under the Bide administration quote, attempted to 0:06:56.040 --> 0:07:01.520 impose record breaking fines on some of the nation's largest 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:07.960 Christian universities, including Liberty University fourteen million dollars and Grand 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:12.000 Canyon University thirty seven point seven million dollars. 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:14.000 By the way, let's just stop there and talk about 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:16.520 Liberty University. So if people understand the history of Liberty, 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:21.280 Liberty University has been a front end center university that 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:25.800 is of Christian faith, Christian values, Christian students. They have 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:28.960 had many, by the way, political people come there to speak, 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:33.160 Conservatives obviously among those. That is a clear attack on 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:35.400 that university, trying to hurt that university. 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:37.000 In my opinion, your thoughts. 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:40.000 Look, as you know, in twenty sixteen when I ran 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:44.880 for president, I launched my presidential campaign at Liberty University. 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:49.040 Speaking at that convocation in March of twenty fifteen, it 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:52.320 was incredible. We had about ten thousand students there. Liberty 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:56.240 is a tremendous institution, but it is a Bible believing 0:07:56.320 --> 0:08:01.160 Evangelical Christian university. And to the Biden that meant it 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:04.120 was an enemy, that mint it was someone to be persecuted, 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:08.679 to be targeted. And this pattern of animus it really 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:13.880 combines two things, one the deep distrust and hatred of 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:19.240 evangelical Christians, with two the weaponization of government. The willingness 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:22.360 of the Biden administration to say, we've got the Department 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:24.840 of Justice, We've got the FBI, we've got the Department 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:27.480 of Labor, We've got the Department of Education, We've got 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:30.520 the irs. We are going to use government to go 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:33.360 after our enemies. That is a pattern we saw for 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:36.400 four years. I'm really glad this task force is laying 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:39.720 out the results because the results. But by the way, 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:43.120 the Department of Homeland Security, here's what the task force 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:48.559 found that Customs and Border Protection omitted Christian perspectives from 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:54.120 a directive for detainees, but deliberately noted accommodations for Islam 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:59.120 sects of Judaism and Rastafarianism. In other words, under the 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:03.000 Biden administration, and if you're a Rastafari and Yaman, that 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:07.120 was fully protected. Yeah, but God forbid you're a Bible 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:10.719 believing Christian. They never heard of you. Sorry, no one here, 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:13.199 no new number who. 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:15.920 This Yeah, well, and you look at this, and it 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:18.640 goes back to there were a lot of I think suspicions, right, 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:22.520 and the suspicions were that the administration was anti Christian. 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:24.320 If you brought up, of course, everybody in the media 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:26.960 is like, that's absurd, that's absurd. We're now getting the 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:31.000 documentation to show that, yes, these groups and organizations, universities, 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:35.760 actually felt like they were clearly being targeted, were right 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:38.319 and now vindicated. The question is, how do we make 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:40.960 sure this hasn't happened again. That's part of what Pambonding 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:43.040 and the trum administration are trying to accomplish here. 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:46.560 One of the most powerful tools is sunlight. 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:49.640 And one of the things that I've urged PAMBONDI, I've 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:52.080 rged just about every Department of Justice official who has 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:52.880 been confirmed. 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:54.319 I've verged urged. 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:57.600 Cash Mattel, the head of the FBI, is engage in 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:01.480 radical transparency. I've urged Bobby Kenned at HHS, engage in 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:06.360 radical transparency. Shine a light on what the Biden administration did. 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:08.959 Make it public. Look much of this abuse of power. 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:13.640 It's like cockroaches. It thrives in the darkness. It thrives 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:16.520 when it is hidden. There is power to just shining 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:18.679 a light on it. And by the way, if anyone 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:21.600 violated the law, if anyone committed a criminal act, they 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:25.120 ought to be prosecuted. That's the next step of this inquiry. 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:27.480 But the very first thing is just exposing it. So, 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:30.960 for example, let's take a law, the Face Act, the 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:35.199 Freedom of Access to clinic entrances, Act. The task force 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:39.640 found the Department of Justice under the Biden administration arrested 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:43.280 and convicted approximately two dozen individuals under the Face Act 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:48.480 for praying and for demonstrating outside abortion facilities. And let 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:52.320 me stop and repeat that. They arrested approximately two thousand 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:57.400 dozen individuals for praying. That was deemed a criminal offense. 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:01.280 Praying and demonstrating. Well, there is that whole thing called 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:05.240 the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, the first 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:07.640 Amendment that protects the right to free speech. But not 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:11.559 under Joe Biden. If your speech was in defense of 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:14.280 the right to life, if your prayer was in the 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:17.160 defense the right to life, they viewed you as a 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:20.720 criminal defendant. And yet, the way the Face Act is written, 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:24.200 it is written to prevent to protect the right of 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:28.560 access to an abortion clinic, but it is also designed 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:32.040 to protect the right of access to places of worship 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:36.920 and crisis pregnancy centers. Here's what the report founded. They 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:40.320 would not enforce it for churches or crisis pregnancy centers. 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:44.560 It was a pure double standards. If their politics agreed 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:48.199 with you, then bring out the jack boots. If you're 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:51.120 a little old lady praying, get ready to be in handcuffs. 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:54.280 But if it's a church, if it's a pregnancy access center. 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:59.280 By the way, we saw radical pro abortion forces fire 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:03.160 bombing ignancy access centers, and yet the Department of Justice 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:08.679 did no arrests. It was simply not a priority. At 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:11.920 the same time, the task Force lays out that at 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:20.840 the FBI, the FBI specifically targeted quote radical traditionalist Catholics 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:28.040 as domestic terrorism threats. As treasury, the task Force points 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:33.480 out that many quote pro Christian groups have been debanked. 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:36.760 This was a pattern across the board. 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:43.400 The State Department quote limited humanitarian relief to Christians relative 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:47.280 to other populations and offered muted response to attacks on 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:50.520 Christians compared to other groups. And at the State Department, 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:54.520 the task force said it discovered evidence that quote preferential 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:59.760 employment practices were afforded for those of non Christian religions, 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:05.280 while Christian employees quote were disfavored. And it continues to 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:08.440 say it was particularly concerning that employees were less likely 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:12.280 to be permitted leave for observation of certain Christian holidays 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:15.359 as opposed to non Christian holidays. 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:19.000 All right, so you hear that center, and then here 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:21.840 comes a million dour question. We've exposed it. Right, that's 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:23.800 great news. We've found it. Is there going to be 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:27.800 any accountability now? I asked that question, also asking this, 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:31.000 The task Force says they had a clear mandate again 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:35.280 Pambini in charge to ensure quote that any unlawful and 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:40.920 improper conduct policies or practices that number one target Christians 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:45.640 they're identified, then terminated, and then they say it will 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:48.800 be quote rectified. So I hear that, I'm actually a 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:51.199 little bit hopeful. Does that mean, and I want you 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:54.040 to put your lawyer hat on here, does that mean 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:57.200 that there's a real chance people could actually not only 0:13:57.200 --> 0:13:59.960 lose their job, but actually be charged with crime. 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:03.680 Well, I very much hope. So the first step is 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:08.760 just transparency, making it public, cataloging it, giving specific instances. 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:11.960 This report, this reports a preliminary report. They're planning to 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:17.160 put out a more fulsome report with extensive details and 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:19.440 as much as they can catalog it and build a 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:23.160 public record that is valuable. It is important not just 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:26.640 to have it abstract, but to identify who the decision 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:29.840 makers were. Some of those decision makers are going to 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:33.520 be political appointees from the Biden administration who are gone. 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:34.360 Who are out of office. 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:38.880 Other decision makers are going to be career government employees 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:44.560 who eagerly participated in the persecution of Christians. At a 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:49.200 very minimum, any career federal government employee who persecuted Christians 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:53.040 should be terminated. They should lose their job. It is 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:57.160 important for that to be a firing offense because unfortunately, 0:14:57.200 --> 0:14:58.880 at some point in the future we're going to have 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:05.360 another Democrat administer and the pattern we've seen from Bill 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:09.960 Clinton to Barack Obama to Joe Biden is we've seen 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:14.640 each Democrat administration get worse and worse and worse. And 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:19.280 so whenever we have the next Democrat administration, if we 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:21.960 don't do something significant, we can anticipate it will be 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:25.480 even worse. One of the significant things is if people 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:30.000 lose their jobs. If it becomes clear if you target Christians, 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:33.040 if you violate the law, you will be terminated. That 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:36.880 is important as a deterrent. It's also important for accountability, 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:40.920 and then if anyone violated the law, if anyone committed 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:46.080 criminal conduct, they should be prosecuted. And the most likely 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:50.440 instance of criminal conduct is if they lied under oath. 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:54.320 And you frequently have individuals who testify before Congress or 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:57.720 otherwise are lying under oath. That's the most direct way 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:01.280 of criminal liability. You know, we rememberer back to Lois Lerner, 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:06.760 who during during the the Obama administration targeted Christians at 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:09.520 the I R S. And Lois Lerner ended up pleading 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:13.520 the fifth in front of Congress. She ended up refusing 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:16.640 to testify. She ended up being held in contempt of Congress, 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:20.080 and then the Obama administration refused to do anything about it. 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:25.280 The Obama Department of Justice refused to prosecute the contempt finding. 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:29.480 That's a pattern that should not be replicated, and so 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:33.080 everyone who violated the law needs to be accountable. That's 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:37.800 important both for holding people accountable for past conduct but 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:40.040 also for deterrents going forward. 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:44.000 All right, Senatra, I want to move to another issue, 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:47.920 and this one deals with Tucker Carlson. I was actually 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:52.320 genuinely shocked by the audio when this broke. I really 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:55.480 couldn't believe what I was witnessing when this audio broke. 0:16:56.000 --> 0:17:00.200 Tucker Carlson is now coming out and he's, like said sang, 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:03.480 he wants to give condolences to a Sabin Lauden's family, 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:05.720 and he says he's not even sure the Hamas is 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:07.920 actually a radical Jihadis organization. 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:11.240 Those are his words. What in the hell is going 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:11.680 on here? 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:15.600 Yeah, Ben, you and I both know Tucker Carlson well, 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:20.040 and something is wrong with Tucker Carlson. I don't know 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:22.439 what the hell is wrong with him, But look, Tucker 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:26.560 is someone He's very smart, he's very talented. During the 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:32.320 COVID lockdowns, Tucker's monologue every night was destination TV. He 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:36.520 was unloading on idiotic practices that were shutting our country down. 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:38.720 I called him the midst of COVID. 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:41.200 I said, Tucker, you're the single best thing on television 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:43.520 every single night. Thank you for doing what you're doing. 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:47.760 I look at the Tucker today, he is unrecognizable. As 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:51.160 listeners of this podcast know, I went on Tucker's show. 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:52.840 I knew Tucker was going to come after me. I 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:55.840 knew he was going to come after me, and sadly 0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:59.760 do so dishonestly. In the course of that two hour 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:01.800 by back and forth, it was a lot of firefight. 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:06.320 It was a bloodbath. I think on both sides. You 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:12.160 saw Tucker engage in bizarre counterfactual assertions. He said, for example, 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:14.960 Iran's not trying to kill the president. What do you 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:17.359 mean no, no, no, no, no, Iran. There's no evidence Iran's 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:20.040 trying to kill the president. That is, of course absurd. 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:24.600 Multiple people have been indicted for being Iranian agents, trying 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:28.719 to kill the president, trying to kill former US senior officials. 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:29.880 But but and and. 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:32.000 Tucker bizarrely said, you know, if Iran was trying to 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:34.880 kill the president, well then we should nuke them, which 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:37.800 which was a really bizarre proposition. No, we should not 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:43.520 be nuking Iran or anyone else. But I got to say, 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:46.320 the week that I did the Tucker interview was the 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:50.480 week right before the President launched the bombing attack on 0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:54.920 Iran's nuclear facilities. And and Tucker was was spiraling at 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:57.919 the time because he was attacking Donald Trump and saying, 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:02.920 if the United States bombs Iran, he said, it will 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:06.879 be World War three. Number one, Yeah, he said, thousands 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:10.680 of Americans will die. Number two, And he said America 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:14.840 will lose. Number three, that Iran will beat us in 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:15.600 World War three. 0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:17.080 Yes, every one of. 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:19.320 Those, so he said at the time it was shocking 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:21.200 when he said, everybody was like, what are you talking about. 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:23.040 America is going to lose to Iran? Are you kidding? 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:26.040 Me. Every one of those predictions we now know the truth. 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:31.040 They were laughingly, entirely totally false. And I got to say, 0:19:31.119 --> 0:19:35.600 for some reason, when when Tucker tried desperately to convince 0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:39.520 President Trump not to bomb Iran's nuclear facilities and Donald 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:43.719 Trump disagreed with Tucker Carlson, and Tucker put out his 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:45.879 newsletter and said, well, you're not America first if you 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:49.560 bomb Iran, and Trump responded, no, I'm the one that 0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:53.160 decides what America First is, and I'm telling you right 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:57.720 now defending America is America First. I gotta say it 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:03.119 just started Tucker on this downward spiral. So in the 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:06.520 weeks and months since then, he had some loon professor 0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:10.280 on talking about Hitler and saying, you know, there's a 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:13.000 very good argument the United States should have intervened in 0:20:13.040 --> 0:20:16.280 World War Two on the side of Hitler and the Nazis, 0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:21.560 and Tucker kind of nods, no, there is not a 0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:25.000 good argument America should have supported the Nazis. The Nazis 0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:29.600 were evil period the end. I gotta say, any commentator, 0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:31.360 if you're sitting around thinking, you know what I need 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:34.520 to do. I need to go out and embrace Adolf Hitler. 0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:37.840 Defend Hitler. Just pause right there. 0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:38.960 Think about what you're doing. 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:39.200 Right. 0:20:40.280 --> 0:20:44.480 There are very few ironclad rules in politics, or history 0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:49.000 or life, but I'll give you one. Adolf Hitler always, always, 0:20:49.040 --> 0:20:52.560 always bad. Just trust me, this is a safe ground 0:20:52.640 --> 0:20:54.720 to be on. Yeah, Hitler bad. 0:20:55.600 --> 0:20:57.440 Let me add number two to the list real quick, 0:20:57.480 --> 0:21:00.879 because if you go Hitler first in there next for 0:21:01.000 --> 0:21:03.359 especially for people that are I don't know, forty five 0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:06.640 and under, the most evil guy that we probably saw 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:09.000 in our lifetime in real life, and that was a 0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:11.440 guy by the name of Osama bin Lauden, right like, 0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:14.840 throw him out there nine to eleven if you were alive, 0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:17.600 if you remember it. Osama bin Ladd's another one. Don't 0:21:17.640 --> 0:21:20.840 don't side with Adolf Hitler. And if you were my age, 0:21:20.840 --> 0:21:23.160 I'm forty four now, don't whatever you do, don't side 0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:25.880 with Osama bin Laden, which brings us to this unhinged 0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:27.000 Tucker point number two. 0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:31.159 Yeah, okay, I just want you to listen to what 0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:33.200 Tucker had to say about Osama bin Laden. 0:21:33.359 --> 0:21:33.960 Give a listen. 0:21:35.280 --> 0:21:38.080 Let me just say I would be totally comfortable sharing 0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:41.920 condolences with Osama bin Laden's family. I hate Osama bin Laden. 0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:46.399 On the other hand, if somebody dies, it's okay to 0:21:46.480 --> 0:21:48.680 say I'm sorry to his family that he has a murder. 0:21:49.320 --> 0:21:52.960 That's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's immaterial. I would say 0:21:52.960 --> 0:21:56.679 that to the family of an executed murderer in a prison. 0:21:56.720 --> 0:21:58.880 It doesn't mean I support the murderer or the murderer. 0:21:58.880 --> 0:22:02.000 But this is family, Like, that's okay. That's called like 0:22:02.119 --> 0:22:04.320 human decency and anyone who's against that. 0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:06.000 Yeah, and. 0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:11.640 This, let me just be clear, if I meet any 0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:14.080 of the Osama bin laden family members center, I'm not 0:22:14.119 --> 0:22:16.040 gonna walk up back. Let me give you American hug, 0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:19.560 real quick thoughts and prayers like, No, that's not gonna happen. 0:22:20.600 --> 0:22:25.320 Look, this is a bizarre position that that Tucker says 0:22:25.320 --> 0:22:28.480 he's okay with giving condolences to Osama Bin Lauden's family. 0:22:28.760 --> 0:22:30.760 By the way, on his same reasoning, he'd be just 0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:33.520 fine giving condolences to Adolf Hitler's family. Let me tell 0:22:33.520 --> 0:22:36.520 you right now, I am not remotely sorry that Osama 0:22:36.560 --> 0:22:39.040 bin Lauden is dead. I'm not remotely sorry that Adolf 0:22:39.119 --> 0:22:41.440 Hitler is dead. By the way, I'm not remotely sorry 0:22:41.440 --> 0:22:43.960 that Jeffrey Dahmer is dead. I'm not remotely sorry that 0:22:44.280 --> 0:22:46.919 Ted Bundy is dead. I'm not remotely sorry that Charles 0:22:46.960 --> 0:22:47.760 Manson is dead. 0:22:48.119 --> 0:22:48.399 Yeah. 0:22:48.440 --> 0:22:54.640 If people are evil, psychotic mass murderers, then society celebrates 0:22:54.680 --> 0:22:56.120 that they are no longer with us. 0:22:56.400 --> 0:22:57.520 There is justice. 0:22:57.640 --> 0:23:00.960 I believe in the principle of justice and understand. Osama 0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:04.560 bin Laden led out Kaita. He planned nine to eleven. 0:23:04.600 --> 0:23:08.280 He executed nine to eleven, in which case nearly three 0:23:08.560 --> 0:23:11.800 thousand people, most of whom were Americans, were murdered. On 0:23:11.840 --> 0:23:14.520 September eleventh, You and I were both alive. I was 0:23:14.560 --> 0:23:17.720 in Washington, d C. Heidi was in the White House 0:23:17.760 --> 0:23:21.400 at the US Trade Representative's office on nine to eleven. 0:23:21.480 --> 0:23:26.040