WEBVTT - Kofi Kingston’s Gauntlet Match 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:07.480 What's up, everybody. It's Freddie Brents Jr. I haven't done 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:10.880 this before, but I'm gonna answer a question that I 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:13.600 got on Twitter that at first I just kind of 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:16.479 was like it was too hard to answer because it 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:18.400 was an artistic one. You got to kind of take 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:20.599 time with those I've had like a week with it 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:22.720 now and I think it was a good enough question 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:25.560 that we should talk about. And it was wrestlers that 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:28.960 became actors, um and why does it seem so hard 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:31.440 to make the transition? But yes, we're going to dive 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:33.320 into that a little bit. And this week we're going 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:38.960 to dive into the KOFEE Gauntlet match, and in two 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:42.400 different directions. One the one you saw on TV that 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:46.440 got him the opportunity for the World Championship, which he won, 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:50.159 and the origin of it, which was when I was 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:54.280 working there and it was the whole writing team, but 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:57.000 I remember I was the one who pitched it as 0:00:57.040 --> 0:00:59.360 long as as well as the producers behind it, UH 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:02.959 Freebird and that lot. So we're gonna jump into that 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:06.920 because it was crazy watching it happen live. So without 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:09.840 further ado, here we go, now stuffing up to the mic, 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:17.880 the host of Wrestling with Freddie Freddie Prince June. All right, 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:21.120 I was up in my attic and a lot of 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:24.000 you if you listen to my old podcast with Josh Wolfe, 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:27.400 he calls it my gym Attic. And I was watching 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:31.199 an episode of I think it was Friday Night SmackDown 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:37.000 and the Kofi Kingston. This is years after, ten years 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:40.840 after I left the company, easily ten years. So not 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:43.560 only does he have to win all his matches in 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:46.080 a row, he can't lose any to earn his prize, 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:49.000 his title opportunity, and this is the w w E 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:53.000 World Championship, but he also has to win them all 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:56.240 in a row with no rest in between. And it's 0:01:56.280 --> 0:02:00.440 the impossible challenge for the impossible prize, right, And anyone 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:03.960 who knew the business, there's no way they they thought 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:06.280 they were going to put the title on Kofi Kingston. 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:08.959 And then the New day comes around and it's sort 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:14.359 of re shapes and remolds him, and the hype and 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:18.400 the and the passion became very very real, and you 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:20.760 started to see, almost like in a Jeff Hardy way, 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:24.160 people believing in Kofe and and the crowds were hot, 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:26.919 and I'm watching this, and all of a sudden, I go, 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:32.359 holy crap, I think we wrote this. And I texted 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:36.079 my buddy who no longer worked at the company, or 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:38.519 maybe he did, but he was there when I was there, 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:41.000 and I said, oh my gosh, are you watching this 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:43.760 KOFE Gauntlet match? And he texted me back he goes, Dude, 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:47.000 we wrote this gauntlet match, and I've freaked out. I 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:48.880 was like, oh my god, I wonder if they're gonna 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:51.360 They're not gonna let him win. And all of a sudden, 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:54.480 he just wins match after match after match, and he 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:58.679 wins the whole thing, and he gets his title opportunity, 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:02.280 and then of I'm not connected to the to the 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:04.160 rest of the story and I have no knowledge of it. 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:06.320 But then he goes on to win the w w 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:09.280 E Championship, only to then lose it to the to 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:13.639 the treaded brock lessner Um a few months later. So 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:17.919 I'm watching this and I'm I just I have a 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:21.600 grin from ear to ear on my face. You would 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:25.000 have thought I was I was going back to Disneyland 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:27.320 for the first time since I was a little boy. 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:31.919 Like it was crazy watching the journey, the story that 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:34.560 they were telling in the ring that night with the 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:37.760 history involved. So now let's let's go back in time, 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:43.000 right like Wayne's World, and I'm at the company. I 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:46.000 barely have any gray hair at all. I was looking smooth, 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:51.320 and we come up with this idea for Kofe to 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:56.440 become Intercontinental Champion. I believe I think it was Intercontinental night. 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:58.720 It could have been the US title again, someone w 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:00.920 someone will correct me. You is no better than I do. 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:04.760 And everybody is like writing out their ideas and how 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:07.760 they would book it this wrestler and how he's gonna 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:10.120 beat him in that wrestler and how he's gonna beat him, 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:12.600 And that wasn't my that wasn't my strong suit. I 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:14.960 was probably the weakest one in the room when it 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:18.280 came to to who should win and who should lose. 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:21.640 So I'm sitting in there and I'm trying to, you know, 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:24.360 write out the story behind it and the and the 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:27.520 promo that's gonna get us into the story, and thinking 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:30.000 about after how this is gonna, you know, get over. 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:35.880 And all this happened because Kofi had this crazy scene 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:40.120 on live television. Man, maybe it was Monday Night Raw 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:43.200 and it was the US title but one of the 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:46.160 NASCAR guys, and I don't follow NASCAR, so I don't 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:48.480 I don't know their their names the way some of 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:51.000 you would, so forgive me for not knowing. I think 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:52.880 the only one I can think of. I was gonna 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:56.440 say Jeff Jarrett, but that's that's not a professional race 0:04:56.520 --> 0:04:58.920 car driver, so I clearly I don't know the sport. 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:01.920 But there's a Jeff there that drives fast. One of 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:07.080 these guys gave Randy Orton a NASCAR, like an actual 0:05:07.279 --> 0:05:10.840 race car NASCAR, and it's shiny and it's got all 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:13.240 the logos. It looks like, you know, straight out of 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:17.400 Tom Cruise's Days of Thunder, and maybe not with as 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:19.880 good of hair as he had, but still the same vibe, 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:22.400 and it's it's glistening the way they have the lights 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:27.360 on it, and Kofe's going just ballistic for something that happened. 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:29.520 Forgive me again. This is a long time ago. I 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:33.040 can't I can't remember, but he takes an axe of 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:38.760 fire axe to this NASCAR while he's cutting the promo, 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:42.200 so there's a ton of effort and breath behind it, 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:46.239 and it doesn't sound like the standard baby face promo 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:49.400 or baby face, trying to be a tough guy. Help trying. 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:52.960 The man's holding an axe and he's cutting holes into 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:55.680 the hood of what looks like it's clearly not, but 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:59.040 of what looks like, you know, a two million dollar car, 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:01.520 however much in the ASCAR costs. I have no idea, 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:04.440 And he's like, is this what you wanted? Is that 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:07.000 what you And it's like he's yelling every time the 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:11.520 axe hits, and we're watching I'm watching Vince's reactions to this, 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:15.400 and he's just lighting up like a teenager watching it. 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:18.160 I mean, you just see when he sees something and 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:21.400 somebody's like, that's that. Damn it? Yes, and you can 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:24.000 he's just behind him all the way. And then Kofe 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:27.200 finally like puts the axe through the windshield or if 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:31.000 you're in England, the windscreen I respect all cultures, and 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:33.400 he jumps off the car and he storms off, and 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:36.360 Vince is like, damn it, yes, and he's this kid's 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:38.600 going to be a star. So that was the impetus 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:42.040 to write, is that the right word to to write 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:45.640 the story? The seed that that sort of sprouted when 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:50.279 when Vince fertilized it, so to speak, and we started 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:52.960 riding crazy as fast as we could because we knew 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:55.720 we had a green light. And when you work at 0:06:55.760 --> 0:07:01.720 that company, there's so much certainty, and so much of 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:05.000 your hard work feels like it goes to waste sometimes 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:08.400 because you get assignments that aren't even approved by the boss, 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:11.360 or maybe they were just approved but in passing. So 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:13.640 he wasn't really listening, you know, like when you tell 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:18.200 your your better half man or woman yes, just to 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:21.160 get them to stop asking you questions and talking because 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:23.520 you're watching something that you really like, or you're trying 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:26.000 to play a video game, you're like, yeah, that sounds amazing. 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:28.920 Have you heard nothing of it? So you know it 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:32.800 could have been that, or it could just be random politics, 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:43.760 which is where this story goes. We have this story, 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:47.080 the whole team is motivated, and again I don't remember 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:50.360 everyone who worked on it, so I'm just including everyone, 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:53.560 but I know I wasn't alone on this. We finished 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:56.000 the whole thing up, and everybody thinks we have this 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:59.520 great run to the title. We bring it and it 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:03.200 gets a proved by Steph. She's she's way behind it. 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:06.160 I don't think Shane was back in the company at 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:08.560 that point. I think he was over in China at 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:13.320 that point in time. In the meantime, Randy Orton and 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:17.040 Kofi have a match. This is a week later. In 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:20.320 the match, a spot gets blown. And for those who 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:25.160 don't understand, who aren't wrestling fans, that's like if if 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:28.200 a scene on Saturday Night Live a live show, or 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:31.040 if you're watching a sitcom that happened to be taped live, 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:33.640 like Rock back in the Day, or or I think 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:37.559 Will and Grace eventually went live. Things like that. You 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:42.200 can't have people making what you would deem a foolish 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:44.360 mistake because it could kill the whole show. Now, in 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:47.319 a sitcom, it's sort of funny, so the audience is 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:50.000 laughing and you kind of roll with it. But imagine 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:52.800 if it was Law and Order Live and someone just 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:55.559 blew their line and started laughing when they're trying to 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:59.400 you know, arrest or break up some like pornography ring right, 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:02.720 It's it would just kill the show. So a spot 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:07.360 gets blown and Randy gets piste on live TV and 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:09.840 you see him and you can check this on YouTube. 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:15.959 You know, stupid with that deep orton booming voice and 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:19.920 that that that Vince wanted him to be Johnny Cash 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:22.800 and and present himself even though everyone already knew he 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:26.640 was Randy Orton as Hello, I'm Randy Orton. Like, Yo, 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:28.920 that's exactly like it is from the trailer that you 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:32.000 saw in that movie. Goes Yeah, that's great. We already 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:34.400 know he's the best wrestler in the world. Everybody knows 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:38.959 who he is anyway. So this spot gets blown, meaning 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:42.600 a technique, a stunt in the in the match gets blown. 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:45.280 You can tell something doesn't look good. I don't know 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:48.559 what it is because I don't see the spot when 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:51.520 it when it happens, so I don't know what happened. 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:55.640 I just know something is not good. Right. We get 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:59.559 to TV the next week with our story and it's 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:02.280 written in the script and again I can't remember if 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:07.160 it's a SmackDown or a row and we're in there 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:10.040 pitching it. I'm pitching it, the producers are pitching it. 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:13.199 I'm trying to help shape and tell the story and 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:16.200 bring a lot of passion and energy to it. They're 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:18.520 talking about, Yeah, the guys have worked this out. They've 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:21.080 worked that out. You know, he's gonna save face here's 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:23.839 meaning he's not gonna look bad when he loses. We've 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:26.080 got some real creative ways and they're spelling it all out, 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:31.280 and Vince just kind of looks at Kevin, and Kevin 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:34.199 has this sort of knowing smile, right like he just 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:37.600 let us do this whole pitch for no reason other 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:42.199 than to watch it get shot down with joy and pleasure, 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:44.920 which is so weird and counterproductive to me, but to 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:48.800 each their own. And it's because I'm sending to the 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:53.199 dryboard on that and like the everyone's hearts, like you 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:55.840 just heard like multiple thumps on the floor, like blah 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:59.600 blah blah blah blah boa And they weren't toes tapping. 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:03.640 It was just everyone was crushed and no one would 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:07.720 would tell me why at first. And so I'm sitting 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:10.720 through this two and a half three hour production meeting 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:15.360 and my story is dead. I've tried to save it 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:18.920 for about ten fifteen minutes. And when I say my story, 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:22.080 my team's story, it's my job to sell their crap. 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:25.800 It's my job to put it over. That's that's my job. 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:29.199 Is your salesman in there on on production day. And 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:31.240 when I say crap, I don't mean bad stuff. I 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:34.319 was behind this. I believed in this story. I say 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:38.520 that about my crap two, don't worry, But ten fifteen minutes, 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:41.360 I'm fighting for it, and it's just there's no there's 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:43.640 no winning this battle. So now I'm trying to fix it. 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:47.720 I'm offering, you know, alternative solutions. Other people are offering 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:50.559 alternative solutions. The whole thing's just gone at debt. So 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:53.199 finally I just shut up and we move on. And 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:56.559 I don't think CoFe even worked that night. And I 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:58.480 get out and they tell me what happened. They tell 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:01.040 me about this blown spot and and he's piste at him, 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:04.679 and it's got it got shut down, and they ended up. 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:07.000 For those who aren't in the know, they ended up 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:13.320 using that real moment of why Randy sort of held 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:19.040 KOFE down in the actual story of KOFE winning the 0:12:19.200 --> 0:12:22.880 title after winning the Gauntlet match that I saw ten 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:26.920 years later off of Randy Orton. They literally put that 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:30.240 into the story, like, you know, because of the person 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:33.439 you were, that opportunity was taken away from me. Those 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:35.880 aren't the exact words, but I'm just trying to communicate 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:39.160 the gist of it as quickly as possible. Um, But 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:42.640 I remember watching that and it all came from this 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:47.760 sort of this moment of of acting, which was him 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:50.360 on the hood of the car, which kind of inspired 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:52.839 the thought on the question that I got from Twitter, 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:58.800 which was who are the best wrestlers turned actor? Who 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:03.120 are those wrestlers that have turned actor? And why do 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:07.480 I think that it's such a hard transition from one 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:10.200 part of showbizzs to the next. So we'll get into 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:14.960 to all these. The obvious ones are the Rock Hulk, 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:18.760 Hogan did a did a few, John Cena. Some of 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:22.559 the movies that they did. I think you can kind 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:27.199 of see the the talented actors almost always leave, you know. 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:30.120 Halt did did a few. You know. The only good 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:32.679 one I think was No Holds Barred where he played 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:36.439 rip that had it was Zeus Verus his rip. That 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:40.360 was tiny Zeus Lister, Rest in Peace teny uh tiny 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:42.800 Zeus Lister Jr. I believe, And I think that was 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:48.439 nine uh Rowdy Roddy Piper rest in Peace. Uh. He 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:50.880 was a solid actor. You guys could see this cult 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:54.920 movie that John Carpenter directed and I think wrote from 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:58.080 eighty eight the year The Doctors in the World series. 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:01.000 That's how I remember that it's called They Live and 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:04.120 Piper is just great in it. One of my dad's 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:07.120 best childhood friends, Keith David is in that movie. He's 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:09.840 the black dude, the voice spawn from the animated series 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:12.439 and he's the other lead in in that movie. And 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:16.040 they have this great, like seven minute fight in an 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:19.560 alleyway over a pair of sunglasses. And that's all I'm 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:25.440 gonna say. And it's ridiculously eighties awesome in every possible 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:29.080 eighties way. Uh, that was a great one. People. I 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:33.320 think sleep on Jesse Jesse Ventura, uh from The Running 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:37.840 Man and from Predator, which was Predator. I don't know. Man, 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:39.600 maybe he was better than Running Man because he actually 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:41.360 got to be kind of funny in that one. But 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:44.800 Predator he was such a badass. He played Blaine. That 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:49.560 was eighties seven or eighty eight. That's John mctiernen. He 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:54.400 also did movies like die Hard and uh, random one 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:56.640 that I don't know why. I know, The Thirteenth Warrior 0:14:56.720 --> 0:15:00.400 with Antonio banderis underrated, flick kind of Viking Norseman bology 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:02.760 which was kind of cool. Um, and those were sort 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:04.360 of like, you know, oh, he did uh Hunt for 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:07.480 Red October. Everybody saw that movie, so cool director there. 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:13.040 But um, you know, the modern wrestler Dwayne is another 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:17.000 one who's work you saw grow right, he made it through. 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:21.120 But it's hard. You can We're not at ten, you 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:23.520 know what I mean. Like, you can count Andre if 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:27.720 you want, you could count. You can count Big Show 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:30.520 for sure, you could count Edge for sure. They've done 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:32.600 a lot of a lot of work. Jericho has done 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:35.360 a lot of work. But as far as like what 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:37.680 this question was in reference to, like the ones that 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:39.720 make it, as far as the Rock, it's really the 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:42.360 Rock and John Cena is on his way. He's on 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:45.640 a skyrocket there. So let's discuss some of the wrestlers 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:50.120 that are working today in the that aren't out there 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:53.880 making movies that I think could transition. Um, I think 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:57.240 a very easy one that everyone would agree with would 0:15:57.240 --> 0:16:00.520 be Bray Wyatt. I think he has the kind range 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:05.440 and the level of commitment necessary to play multiple types 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:08.800 of rules, not just the scary guy, but he could 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:11.160 do I know he can do comedy because I saw 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:14.440 him do scenes back in promo class where we would 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:17.040 pull scenes from like Beverly Hills, Cop and stuff like that, 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:18.760 and he would just knock him out of the park. 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:24.200 But his chops are no joke. His commitment is next level. 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:27.400 He's the kind of guy that I could see make 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:31.280 that transition. It would be a much stranger role, you know, 0:16:31.320 --> 0:16:33.040 because he's not that he doesn't have the look of 0:16:33.120 --> 0:16:35.280 a typical leading man, right, He's never going to have 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:38.160 the body of the rock. So you have to kind 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:43.040 of carve out what kind of not necessarily a character actor, 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:46.160 but what character would become his sort of signature character. 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:49.520 But I think he could do it. I think Miss 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:53.640 could be the lead on any sitcom on any channel, 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:56.320 and he could find a way for that thing to 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:58.880 be on for ten years. I've loved Miss for a 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:01.280 long time. He's been asked on here. If you haven't 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:04.040 listened to that episode, you really should. All my guests 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:06.080 kind of the main thing that I try to focus 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:09.920 on is is how they accomplished their dream. And I 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:11.800 tried not all my guests are going to be people 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:14.040 I know. Some it's just people I respect, But the 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:18.000 ones I know are always people who who are problem solvers, 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:22.080 not problem identify irs. They're constantly looking for solutions, and 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:23.800 MS is the kind of guy that can do that. 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:26.840 UM one of the best actors on the entire roster, 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:29.120 or in all of wrestling, I think is Alexa Bliss. 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:32.200 I think she's shown that over the last two three 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:37.040 years easily even when they mess up segments that should 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:40.679 be so simple, and she would be so easily written 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:43.400 if they didn't have twelve people writing it. She's able 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:46.359 to pull off even some moments that I would not 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:48.520 want to sell as an actor if I read it 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:50.240 in the script as hey man, we've got to change 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:52.800 this line. The same the same work, and oh I 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:54.800 really like it, and then you hit him with the Well, 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:56.399 maybe I'm just not good enough to do that, so 0:17:56.800 --> 0:17:58.920 if you could help me out. That's Meryl Street said 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:00.560 that in an interview once, was like, oh my god, 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:03.159 I'm stealing that because they hired you. The first thing 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:05.040 they're gonna say, Oh no, no, of course you couldn't. 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:08.600 We'll change the line. It works, But in wrestling you 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:11.359 don't get to do that unless you're you know, top 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:14.359 top dog with a with a belt around your waist. 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:17.680 But I think her skills are our next level. Um. 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:21.879 I love Kevin Owens, but I'm trying to think, like, 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:25.000 what would he be if he became an actor? Would 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:28.880 he be? Would he be like like the tough guy 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:31.640 version of Monk, Like would he be a detective solving 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:34.639 crimes on like the USA Network. Would he be a 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:37.480 bad guy in movies, like the scumbag that you always 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:40.800 want to take out? Would he be the Mr Mom 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:43.960 kind of dad, like the eighties Mr Mom with Michael Keaton. 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:46.720 But I know he can act, like I've seen him 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:52.560 commit to everything from the absolute most absurd ridiculous comedy 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:55.879 takes that you could possibly even have the guts to 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:59.920 put out there, to improv type stuff two serious series 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:02.720 of stuff, to evil son of a bitch kind of stuff. 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:14.040 And then I already mentioned Edge, but I think you know, 0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:16.800 out of the shield. I really wanted to be able 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:19.159 to say all three of them, but I think the 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:23.800 one who would have the biggest shot. And if you 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:25.840 disagree with me, I'd be interested because I think I 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:29.160 know which way you'll go. But I think I'm gonna 0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:33.720 go with Seth Rollins and here's why. And in second, 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:35.600 I would put Moxley, and I think that's where a 0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:38.520 lot of you are going to go. Moxley definitely has 0:19:38.640 --> 0:19:42.119 his thing right. He has the uh it's the Jack 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:46.720 Bower quality right, and he's had that for a long time, 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:50.080 whether he's a baby face or a heel, so he 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:54.280 could definitely pull that off. But Seth lately has been 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:58.480 able to do something where he showed arrange that I wasn't. 0:19:59.240 --> 0:20:01.680 I didn't know he had right. So and so check 0:20:01.760 --> 0:20:04.679 this out. He becomes the Monday Night Messiah and now 0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:06.960 he's the Friday Night Messiah or whatever night he is. 0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:11.000 He's the Messiah and uh the w w E version, 0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:17.680 And I hated it. I hated that laugh, that forced laugh. 0:20:17.960 --> 0:20:21.840 I hated all of that. And then I realized, because 0:20:21.840 --> 0:20:26.000 I'm an idiot, I'm supposed to it's not making me 0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:29.359 change the channel. It's making me want to shut him 0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:32.000 up and punch him in the face for laughing at 0:20:32.119 --> 0:20:34.960 something that he and I both no, it's not funny 0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:37.280 in any way, shape or form. So I actually think 0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:40.119 he's doing a great job with this character. And for 0:20:40.240 --> 0:20:43.600 the first few weeks I did not, And I love 0:20:43.680 --> 0:20:47.680 getting proved wrong. I loved watching The New Day explode. Um. 0:20:48.240 --> 0:20:50.399 I didn't like Elias when he first Kate was in 0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:52.280 n x D, and then he hit on w w 0:20:52.480 --> 0:20:54.840 E Monday Night Run. I was like, oh my god, 0:20:54.880 --> 0:20:57.920 I love this guy. Adam Cole finished a promo with 0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:04.080 Babe after executing this beautiful promo, and I was literally like, wait, what, dude? 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:07.000 But I had never seen Adam call and I watched 0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:11.000 him week after week after week, and by the time 0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:13.440 is the fifth week, he's finishing his promo and I'm 0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:17.400 right there with him at I'm called baby, and I'm 0:21:17.680 --> 0:21:20.600 all on that train. And so I get proven wrong 0:21:20.680 --> 0:21:23.080 a lot. And that's kind of the great thing about 0:21:23.320 --> 0:21:29.240 art is we have these these preconceived notions based on 0:21:29.400 --> 0:21:32.720 how we were I used the term programmed, but based 0:21:32.760 --> 0:21:37.280 on how we were raised culturally, what our parents tastes were, 0:21:37.760 --> 0:21:40.639 what our friends tastes were, what the kids who were 0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:42.880 cool but we weren't allowed to hang out with because 0:21:42.880 --> 0:21:45.400 they were older than us, what they thought was cool. 0:21:45.760 --> 0:21:48.720 All those things shape how we interpret art, whether it 0:21:48.840 --> 0:21:53.240 be wrestling or or literature or or anything. Right, So, 0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:57.280 if if a man is writing a script or a book, 0:21:57.680 --> 0:22:00.840 the woman is usually underwritten, but the men reading it 0:22:00.960 --> 0:22:03.640 don't notice that as much as the woman does. If 0:22:03.800 --> 0:22:07.480 a man ever read like one of those female mystery 0:22:07.560 --> 0:22:10.000 books where you know, they get framed for murder and 0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:13.520 things like this, the husband almost always does it. An 0:22:13.560 --> 0:22:16.119 insecure guy would be like, you know, yo, this men 0:22:16.200 --> 0:22:18.680 are underwritten. We're not all horrible people, right like, We're 0:22:18.720 --> 0:22:23.000 all programmed to interpret this in different ways. And and 0:22:23.080 --> 0:22:26.000 there is no wrong when it comes to art. Is 0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:28.240 if you like something and I go, oh that sucks 0:22:28.320 --> 0:22:31.760 because of ABC and D, none of those effects the 0:22:31.960 --> 0:22:34.200