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Speaker 2: It's the honor of my life to accept your nomination

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Speaker 2: for Vice President of the United States.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for your.

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Speaker 2: Passion, thank you for your determination, and most of all,

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Speaker 2: thank you for bringing the joy to this fight.

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Speaker 4: The Governor of Minnesota, Tim Walls on his big night

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Speaker 4: the running mate of course, holding forth on night three. Here,

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Speaker 4: welcome to the Thursday edition of Balance of Power. We're

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Speaker 4: live in Chicago on what is now day four, culminating

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Speaker 4: all of this exercise this week. The speech is the

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Speaker 4: organizing everything, leading us up to the moment that Kamala

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Speaker 4: Harris will accept her party's nomination in prime time, assuming

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Speaker 4: things Kaylee go on schedule.

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Speaker 5: Well, that might be a big ass considering the way

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Speaker 5: the convention has gone thus far, but it is worth

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Speaker 5: noting this is a very different convention than Democrats thought

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Speaker 5: they would be throwing just one month ago. It would

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Speaker 5: have been Kamala Harris that gave the vice presidential acceptance

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Speaker 5: speech last night. Instead, she is accepting the Democratic nomination

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Speaker 5: for president tonight, and in doing so becomes the first

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Speaker 5: ever woman of color to claim that title as Democratic nominee.

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Speaker 4: We're in an historic period of time here in American politics,

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Speaker 4: with a whole new reason here, and you're right, just

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Speaker 4: four weeks ago, imagine the extent to which this race

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Speaker 4: has changed leading us up to this moment today. There

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Speaker 4: are thousands of delegates here in Chicago at a fever

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Speaker 4: pitch coming off the last couple of nights of speeches

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Speaker 4: Joe Biden, Barack Obama, Tim Walls, and now of course

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Speaker 4: the Vice President Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 5: Well, and it raises the question of who else is

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Speaker 5: going to speak tonight because you don't yet know, We

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Speaker 5: have no idea who will introduce Kamala Harris or whether

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Speaker 5: there will be a surprise musical guest. After John Legend

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Speaker 5: gave a nice rendition.

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Speaker 3: Of you can just say Beyonce out loud, well, yeah.

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Speaker 5: That's what everybody's hoping for, whether or not the Queen

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Speaker 5: comes to town. That's correct, And the beehive inside the

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Speaker 5: United Center goes Wild joining us now for more as

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Speaker 5: we look ahead to this evening's festivities. Bloomberg's Gregory Cordy, So, Gregory,

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Speaker 5: I think it is a valid question. We have seen

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Speaker 5: the most elevated people in democratic politics, frankly speak already

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Speaker 5: last night included former President Bill Clinton speaker married and

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Speaker 5: Nancy Pelosi, Hockey, Jeffrey's, Pete Boudajete, Josh Shapiro. They have

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Speaker 5: all spoken. So who's left that's going to tee up

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Speaker 5: build the momentum to Harris's big speech.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: And one of the things, in contrast to the Republican Convention,

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Speaker 6: which was really Donald Trump's convention, and you've got a

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Speaker 6: speaking slot based on your orbit around Donald Trump, Democrats

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Speaker 6: have had former presidents, former nominees, and it's been embarrassment

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Speaker 6: of riches for them trying to squeeze all of the

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Speaker 6: Democratic Party and also emphasize some of these key Senate races.

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Speaker 6: They are going to be so important to Kamala Harris

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Speaker 4: Brought up show has been a problem. This thing's going

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Speaker 4: way over every night. They're cutting videos, in some cases speeches.

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Speaker 4: Last night was not an exception. It's been very difficult

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Speaker 3: Well, people on the East coast see Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, one of the problems we had last night is

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Speaker 6: Joe and I were talking last night about his nineteen

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Speaker 6: it has been a challenge just because everybody wants to

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Speaker 6: And when you squeeze in all these performances, the pop culture,

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Speaker 4: I was on the floor for Bill Clinton last night, Kayley,

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Speaker 4: among some other speakers. He went off the prompter at

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Speaker 4: the prompter. It's not moving and he's vamping. He's still

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Speaker 5: The way you plan it well, And don't we know

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Speaker 5: probably the most important one of her entire political career

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Speaker 5: thus far. Yes, she's been vice president for over three

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Speaker 5: introduction to many Americans to who Kamala Harris really is.

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Speaker 5: What does at stake for her this evening?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, And I wish I could come here and

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Speaker 6: like when she's not in the immediate shadow of Joe Biden.

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Speaker 6: Because when you're a vice president, the job is to

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Speaker 6: to watch how she talks about that, and of course,

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Speaker 6: as you suggest, she's got to reintroduce herselfself to the

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Speaker 6: American people. Even among the delegates that I've talked to,

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Speaker 6: And because it's only seventy five, seventy four days until

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Speaker 3: That's true.

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Speaker 4: It's been really interesting to watch Democrats leverage celebrity entertainment.

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Speaker 4: The influencers, we talked a lot about it, two hundred

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Speaker 4: on the initial schedule. They're trying to get the element

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Speaker 4: a different way than Republicans seized with Kid Rock and

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Speaker 6: Point last night, I had to think to myself, am

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Speaker 6: I watching a political convention on my watching the oscar?

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Speaker 3: Isn't that something? It wasn't MC and the whole bit. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Stephanie Cutter is the is the Democratic strategist who had

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Speaker 6: to put together a virtual convention four years ago because

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Speaker 6: be a televised event. They brought her back this year

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Speaker 6: to really continue that. You saw it with that with

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Speaker 5: Well, and to this exact point, someone else who stood

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Speaker 5: out to me last night was Keenan Thompson. They brought

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Speaker 7: That way, and I thought that was a really maybe

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Speaker 3: Yeah, by the way, they had some zoom problems. Couldn't

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Speaker 4: I went there Kayley rat to have Gregory cording with

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Speaker 4: us here reporting for Bloomberg here on the ground in Chicago. Gregory,

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Speaker 4: thank you so much for joining us. Of course, it

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Speaker 4: was a big night for the Democrats last evening. It

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Speaker 4: wasn't just the celebrities involved here, a lot of folks

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Speaker 4: speaking about the element of joy.

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Speaker 3: Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 8: Is the only candidate in this race who.

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Speaker 9: Has the vision, the experience, the temperament, the will, and yes,

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Speaker 9: the sheer joy. That kind of politics also just feels

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Speaker 9: better to be part of. There is joy in it

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Speaker 2: Most of all, thank you for bringing the joy to

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Speaker 10: Let us choose joy.

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Speaker 4: Our signature panel Rick Davis, partner at Stone Court Capital,

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Speaker 4: Jeanie Shanzano as well, Democratic strategist, senior democracy fellow with

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Speaker 4: the Center for the Study of the Presidency and Congress

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Speaker 4: Democratic strategist. As I mentioned, Bloomberg Politics contributors here. We

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Speaker 4: all are the big day. This is why we're here.

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Speaker 4: I want to start with last night though, before we

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Speaker 4: start asking you guys, what Kamala Harris is going to

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Speaker 4: say Later Oprah Winfrey the secret weapon for the Democrats

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Speaker 11: Absolutely, Now, why did Rick and I not get an

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Speaker 12: Right?

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Speaker 4: That needs for the special tonight.

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Speaker 11: You know, absolutely one of the great speakers. I mean,

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Speaker 11: this is the thing as we look forward to tonight,

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Speaker 11: Kamala Harris has.

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Speaker 1: A huge bar to leap over.

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Speaker 11: You know, Michelle Obama, Barack Obama, Tim Walts, who I

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Speaker 3: Job, did I short speech?

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Speaker 11: It was a touchdown Joe Matt But I thought, yeah,

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Speaker 11: but that was it?

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Speaker 11: What did Mark Twain say? I rid have written a

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Speaker 11: god for Governor Waltz Coach Walts for keeping it brief.

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Speaker 11: Other people did not. They have a problem with the

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Speaker 11: timing on this convention to a certain extent. But you know,

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Speaker 11: Oprah absolutely a huge star of the show. I thought

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Speaker 11: But yeah, I thought Tim Waltz stole the show. And

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Speaker 11: his son Gus, how sweet was that?

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Speaker 5: Very emotional, very proud of dad's Yeah, she watched him

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Speaker 8: We actually think that those things matter. We think Donald

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Speaker 4: We have less than a minute. Can that be fixed tonight?

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Speaker 4: Kamala Harris speaking in primetime. At least that's the plan tonight,

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Speaker 5: Tonight, indeed, but we do know we will hear from

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Speaker 14: What they've done to inflation, and they close it with energy.

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Speaker 13: Trump has also repeatedly highlighted and then candidate Harris's twenty

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Speaker 13: Harris's campaign is expected to shepherd a more progressive energy

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Speaker 3: Tyler, Thank you so much, Bloomberg.

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Speaker 4: Tyler Kendall setting us up for an important conversation now

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Speaker 4: to see you in Chicago. Thanks for joining us today.

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Speaker 4: When she speaks to people not just in the hall

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Speaker 15: Are at home, well, clearly you're hearing from a ton

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Speaker 15: of climate advocates, and it was already mentioned that it's

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Speaker 15: a fifty five million dollar plan that they're putting out

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Speaker 15: to invest in Kamala Harris and Tim Walls because they

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Speaker 15: are climate champions and they.

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Speaker 1: Have approven record that we can rely on.

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Speaker 15: So just how much she wants to get into details

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Speaker 15: on policies and including climate change really is not a

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Speaker 15: concern for all of us who know where she lands

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Speaker 15: on climate and how much effort she's going to take

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Speaker 5: Well, and certainly she's attached to this current administration which

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Speaker 5: got flew the inflation reduction actually, of course, and her

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Speaker 5: role as vice president had to be active on the

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Speaker 5: Senate floor for that one, but that has passed and

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Speaker 5: they were able to do so because they did with

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Speaker 5: her tie breaking vote. Have both chambers of Congress. We

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Speaker 5: don't necessarily know that will be the case even if

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Speaker 5: she does win the presidential election, which would leave much

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Speaker 5: more up to regulators say, given that the Chevron doctrine

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Speaker 5: has now been reversed without control of Congress, what really

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Speaker 5: is going to be the power of the presidents and

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Speaker 5: the regulators they appoint to lead agencies like the EPA

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Speaker 15: Well, I think it's really important to recognize that Chevron

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Speaker 15: doctrine often applied to EPA requirements and rules and regulations,

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Speaker 15: and EPA is very good at figuring out how to

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Speaker 15: address those challenges and move forward with the kind of

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Speaker 15: protections we need, not just on climate, but air and water,

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Speaker 15: all the kinds of pollution that families care about. But

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Speaker 15: we also have to recognize that Kamala Harris has really

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Speaker 15: been a champion on this issue, and I fully expect

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Speaker 15: and I have seen already from a release that was

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Speaker 15: put out just two days ago, between Biden and Harris

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Speaker 15: to talk about what's next. So we are not worried

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Speaker 15: that we're going to stand still. And frankly, I'm not

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Speaker 15: worried about the American public really getting behind these climate

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Speaker 15: actions because they say families money.

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Speaker 1: They grow jobs.

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Speaker 15: You see the unions there at the DNC, they're excited

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Speaker 15: about how much is being built again. So we've already

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Speaker 15: seen a great shift, and remarkably, it almost looks like

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Speaker 15: the IRA is bipartisan.

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Speaker 1: Now hopefully it was and it will be.

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Speaker 15: But you have Republicans now who recognize that most of

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Speaker 15: signing letters saying we're not going to get rid of

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Speaker 15: the IRA. So there is something very new afoot, and

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Speaker 15: I think it's all about the shift from talking about

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Speaker 15: anybody's personal interest to actually the interests of the people

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Speaker 15: in the United States of America, and that is beginning

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Speaker 15: really to grow.

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Speaker 4: What do you make of this whole fracking flat Republicans

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Speaker 4: have seized on this urn by Kamala Harris having at

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Speaker 4: one time called for a federal ban on fracking and

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Speaker 4: obviously has turned away from that. Now you heard what

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Speaker 4: Are you disappointed that Kamala Harris has turned away from

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Speaker 4: her original stand on this? Or is fracking an essential

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Speaker 4: component of our energy infrastructure?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 15: I think this is all being put in the context

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Speaker 15: energy and away from oil and gas can become some

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Speaker 15: kind of a platform for the Republican Party. None of

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Speaker 15: this is a fight right now. What we need to

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Speaker 15: talk about is how do we make that shift to

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Speaker 15: clean energy and how do we keep people people's energy.

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Speaker 1: At a lower cost.

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Speaker 15: And we can't shut off oil and gas today tomorrow.

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Speaker 15: We have to make that transition forward. And part of

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Speaker 15: the challenge is that I think the oil and gas

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Speaker 15: sector hasn't actually responded well to the climate crisis. In fact,

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Speaker 15: they're supporting a lot of the Republican sort of platforms

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Speaker 15: that seem to make it a controversy, when in the end,

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Speaker 15: it's very simple. You know, people need to have clean

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Speaker 15: energy because they need cheaper electricity costs. People need to

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Speaker 15: have vehicles that they can move forward in that won't

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Speaker 15: pollute them and kill their kids. There's a whole range

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Speaker 15: of opportunities here. And part of the excitement today is

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Speaker 15: that the DNC has never been more hopeful. You know,

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Speaker 15: I've seen a lot of these conferences, and honestly, we

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Speaker 15: now seem to have an ability with the Vice President

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Speaker 15: and with the governor to actually land together to bring

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Speaker 15: unity here in the United States again, to get away

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Speaker 15: from the bipodisan nonsense, to bridge the gaps that we

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Speaker 15: have seen before. And that's what makes us so hopeful

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Speaker 15: and such an opportunity moment.

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Speaker 1: And I just hope we can all grab.

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Speaker 5: It well as we consider what is going to happen

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Speaker 5: next in the United States. Who's potentially going to become

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Speaker 5: president here is worth noting when it comes to these

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Speaker 5: issues and the pursuit of net zero. Different countries are

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Speaker 5: on different timelines, but this is a global issue, and

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Speaker 5: criticism that frequently comes from Republicans is that the US

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Speaker 5: can't do this alone as long as China and India

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Speaker 5: are still polluting as much as they are. So how

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Speaker 5: much should we be considering not just the policy that

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Speaker 5: these candidates would bring domestically, but how they would interact

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Speaker 5: with adversaries and allies alike in the pursuits of a

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Speaker 5: cleaner environment.

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Speaker 15: Well, I'm not sure that the Republicans are really that

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Speaker 15: interested and talking about climate change in a way that's

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Speaker 15: really much more reality based. Look, they've tipped their hand

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Speaker 15: with Project twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 15: That plan is all about not just minimizing and challenging

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Speaker 15: our democracy itself, but it's all about going back to

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Speaker 15: oil and gas is the winner here, right, It's all

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Speaker 15: about getting rid of the effort of clean energy. And

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Speaker 15: we now know that climate change is such a global

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Speaker 15: problem that we have to bridge gaps between the United

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Speaker 15: States in every country that's out there. And I don't

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Speaker 15: frankly think that any administration has done a better job

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Speaker 15: of trying to make sure that we are investing in

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Speaker 15: the future.

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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 15: Part of it is engaging the private sector, and private

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Speaker 15: investors are waking up to both the challenge of climate

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Speaker 15: that they know they can see and we can all

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Speaker 15: feel and taste and touch. But it's all about building

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Speaker 15: resilience at home. But it's also about engaging the private

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Speaker 15: sector to invest not just in developed worlds but in

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Speaker 15: the developing world, in the global South, and.

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Speaker 1: The opportunities to do that are enormous.

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Speaker 15: And so I am seeing a shift not just in

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Speaker 15: politics around this, but really in the fundamental way in

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Speaker 15: which our country and others are looking at their economic

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Speaker 15: opportunities moving forward. We don't have to invest in a

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Speaker 15: way that's going to disadvantage our country. We need to

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Speaker 15: invest in a way that provides opportunities to our country.

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Speaker 15: But more broadly, that makes this the global challenge and

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Speaker 15: opportunity of our lifetime. It is every country that needs

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Speaker 15: to engage, but the US, frankly, because of curmudgeons on

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Speaker 15: the Republican side in Congress, and I used a nice

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Speaker 15: term that they just have blocked our ability to actually

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Speaker 15: vest in a way that really shows the United States

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Speaker 15: leadership and what we're trying to do.

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Speaker 1: So hopefully that can get.

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Speaker 15: Corrected as well as we advance some other races in

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Speaker 15: a way that will make this an opportunity for us

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Speaker 15: as well.

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Speaker 4: You hear from the other campaign. Of course, it's not

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Speaker 4: just Republicans in Congress. Donald Trump largely seems to think

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Speaker 4: that your movement is a hoax. He's questioned the role

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Speaker 4: of evs, despite his new relationship with Elon Musk. He

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Speaker 4: says that wind mills don't work, that kill birds and

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Speaker 4: cause cancer, Solar doesn't work when the sun isn't out,

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Speaker 4: you can't watch TV at night. A lot of people

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Speaker 4: take him at his word there. How do you go

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Speaker 4: up against a message like that.

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Speaker 1: I think you just have to tell the truth, you know.

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Speaker 15: Plus the other exciting thing is, first of all, wind mills. Seriously,

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Speaker 15: wind mills. I feel like we're back in Holland from.

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Speaker 1: That fifteen years ago. But the issue is that people are.

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Speaker 15: Beginning to see both the threat but they're also of

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Speaker 15: climate change. But they're also seeing that it makes a

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Speaker 15: difference in their lives. We already have three point four

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Speaker 15: million homes that have grabbed Inflation Reduction Act monies in

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Speaker 15: order to reduce the costs associated with putting solar in

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Speaker 15: their homes and making their homes more efficient. When people

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Speaker 15: start seeing these benefits, I mean we are talking about

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Speaker 15: four hundred billion dollars in private sector investment. That is

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Speaker 15: thousands and thousands of jobs, and that is real human

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Speaker 15: beings getting a shot at being in the middle class

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Speaker 15: because they have a job again.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 15: So it's that excitement that we have to really amplify.

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Speaker 15: We need people to understand that it's not about the planet.

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Speaker 15: It is about the people and them, their families, their communities,

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Speaker 15: and as money get gets invested, we are really seeing

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Speaker 15: significant opportunities for individuals to sort of feel it themselves.

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Speaker 15: That's when it's going to take off. And frankly, the

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Speaker 15: outline of new proposals and how much we can do

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Speaker 15: that was just delivered by Biden and Harris really show

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Speaker 15: you the path.

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Speaker 1: Forward, all right.

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Speaker 5: Gina McCarthy, great to see you here in Chicago, of course,

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Speaker 5: the former administrator of the EPA. Thank you so much

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Speaker 5: for your time.

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Speaker 5: Now, as we consider the messaging we have gotten out

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Speaker 5: of this convention, in this conversation around freedom, whether it

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Speaker 5: be reproductive rights or otherwise, there also has been another

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Speaker 5: message surrounding American democracy. And this is actually something we

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Speaker 5: heard about from House Speaker America Nancy Pelosi, as she

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Speaker 5: on the stage last night recalled the of January sixth,

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 16: January sixth was a perilous moment for our democracy. Never

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Speaker 16: before had a president of the United States so brazenly

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Speaker 16: assaulted the bedrock of our democracy, so leeffully embraced political violence,

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Speaker 16: so wilfully betrayed his oath of office. Let us not

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Speaker 16: forget who assaulted democracy on January sixth, he did, But

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Speaker 16: let us not forget who saved democracy that day. We did,

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Speaker 16: and thank god we had a democratic House of Representatives.

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Speaker 16: Then we returned to the capital that very same night,

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Speaker 16: we insisted on certifying the election results on the floors

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Speaker 16: of the House and the Senate, and we demonstrated to

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Speaker 16: America and to the world that American democracy prevailed.

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Speaker 5: Joining us now here in Chicago is Senate Majority Whip

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Speaker 5: and Chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Dick Durbin of Illinois.

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Speaker 5: We are here in his home state for this Democratic

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Speaker 5: National Convention. Sir, thank you so much for joining us

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Speaker 5: on Bloomberg TV and radio. It's great to see you.

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Speaker 17: Good to be here.

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Speaker 5: And this is, as we've been remarking upon all week,

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Speaker 5: a very different convention than maybe some expected just four

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Speaker 5: weeks ago. Certainly we have a different candidate, but it

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Speaker 5: also feels like we have a bit of a different message.

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Speaker 5: Joe Biden was making his campaign very much about democracy,

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Speaker 5: talking about January sixth, as we heard Nancy Pelosi do

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Speaker 5: last night. Certainly Donald Trump hasn't shied away from that.

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Speaker 5: Either he's calling them patriots or prisoners in the case

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Speaker 5: of some of those who have been convicted. It feels

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Speaker 5: like that's not getting focused on as much now that

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Speaker 5: Harris is at the top of the ticket. And I

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Speaker 5: wonder what you think about that. Is that actually still

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Speaker 5: the winning message for Democrats.

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Speaker 17: The message is freedom and so many different aspects of it.

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Speaker 17: Certainly when it comes to reproductive choice, we've found all

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Speaker 17: across the United States, so called safe red states are

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Speaker 17: voting for women's rights, women's right to have the freedom

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Speaker 17: to decide the future of their bodies and their families.

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Speaker 17: I think that is an underlying theme you continue to hear.

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Speaker 17: So freedom is the heart of the issue of this campaign.

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Speaker 3: Freedom is pretty broad.

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Speaker 4: And I'd like to stay at a thirty thousand foot

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Speaker 4: level with you here, because you've been doing this longer

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Speaker 4: than some of the people in this hall. Where told

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Speaker 4: the economy is the number one issue. We're told that

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Speaker 4: people are very concerned about the border. But when you

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Speaker 4: look at this broadly, this election, what is the choice

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Speaker 4: beyond freedom when it comes to the actual issues that

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Speaker 4: people will make their decisions on here.

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Speaker 17: Well, I think the choice spoils down to a very

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Speaker 17: simple phrase, do we want to go back to the

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Speaker 17: era of Donald Trump as president and all that that

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Speaker 17: brought us? We kind of laugh it off now when

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Speaker 17: he suggested somehow another bleach was going to be the

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Speaker 17: answer to the COVID crisis that had just disappear and

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Speaker 17: some of the other things that he did as president.

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Speaker 17: We really destrugged our shoulders and said that may not

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Speaker 17: be normal for the rest of the world, but it's

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Speaker 17: normal for Donald Trump. I think the American people, if

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Speaker 17: they watched this convention, understand there's going to be a

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Speaker 17: clear choice here whether we're moving forward with a new

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Speaker 17: outlook that's more positive towards relationships of Americans, are returning

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Speaker 17: to that Trump.

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Speaker 5: Era well, And part of the Trump era was marked

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Speaker 5: by his ability to appoint a number of conservative justices

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Speaker 5: to the Supreme Court, some of whom, of course, have

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Speaker 5: come under fire or have been looked into by the

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Speaker 5: Judiciary Committee within the last years. There's been concerns raised

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Speaker 5: about ethics. How much of this election is also about

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Speaker 5: the next president's ability to potentially change the shape of

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Speaker 5: the court. Knowing that one of the things Joe Biden

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Speaker 5: wants to do before leaving office, or has suggested being done,

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Speaker 5: is Supreme Court reform.

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Speaker 17: Dobbs' decision was a grim reminder to the American people

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Speaker 17: that the selection of a Supreme Court justice can affect

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Speaker 17: their lives personally. I mean, just look at the reaction

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Speaker 17: across the United States of repealing Roe versus Wade. Donald

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Speaker 17: Trump brags about that, but I can tell you most

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Speaker 17: Americans don't brag with him. They think this is a

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Speaker 17: serious problem, and it is a serious problem for women

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Speaker 17: and their families all across the country. So it's a

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Speaker 17: reminder too that that basic freedom needs to have someone

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Speaker 17: to protect it. And Kamala Heiris will do that.

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Speaker 4: When I think Dick Durban, I think Chicago, and I'd

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Speaker 4: like to hear from you on what this convention means

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Speaker 4: for the image of this city, maybe the economy as well.

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Speaker 4: You've got thousands, tens of thousands of people from around

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Speaker 4: the country in town here, and Donald Trump is comparing

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Speaker 4: Chicago to Afghanistan. He says it's more dangerous than Afghanistan,

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Speaker 4: pointing to one hundred and seventeen shootings on the fourth

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Speaker 4: of July. What do you want people to take away?

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Speaker 4: People are watching this from all over the country about

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Speaker 4: Chicago that they might not know this week.

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Speaker 17: Well, crime and gun violence is an American problem. It

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Speaker 17: is just a Chicago problem. And they can try all

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Speaker 17: I wish to blame this administration or the Democrats because

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Speaker 17: of the political makeup in Illinois. The bottom line I'm

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Speaker 17: hearing from conventioneers is they've been dazzled by the city. Luckily,

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Speaker 17: the weather couldn't be better for in August in Chicago.

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Speaker 17: But in addition to that, the mayor has done a

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Speaker 17: great job and cleaning up the city and a terrific

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Speaker 17: job with law enforcement to make sure that we give

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Speaker 17: people their First Amendment rights, but to stop them short

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Speaker 17: of violence or vandalism. It really makes me sick to

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Speaker 17: my stomach when I hear JD. Van's going up to

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Speaker 17: Wisconsin and talking about the terrible situation with crime in Chicago.

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Speaker 17: It was JD. Advance personally stop the appointment of a

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Speaker 17: permanent US Attorney to the City of Chicago. Jdevans personally.

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Speaker 17: They confronted him on the floor of the Senate several

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Speaker 17: times over that decision. He said he wanted to grind

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Speaker 17: the Department of Justice to a halt. You tell me

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Speaker 17: that's a law and art of candidate. I think it's

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Speaker 17: a weird candidate, to be honest with you. It suggests

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Speaker 17: that closing down the Department of Justice is the right

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Speaker 17: thing to do, and he did it.

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Speaker 5: Senator, you just alluded to some of the protests we

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Speaker 5: have seen since being here in Chicago, they have been

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Speaker 5: I think it's fair to say smaller in scale than

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Speaker 5: many expected or even feared coming into this week when

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Speaker 5: it comes to the protests over the war ongoing in Gaza,

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Speaker 5: has it surprised you the degree to which they haven't

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Speaker 5: been as disruptive or as robust, And do you think

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Speaker 5: that may be attributable to the change in candidate? This

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Speaker 5: isn't Biden's convention, it's Harry.

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Speaker 17: I think that's it. I think you put your finger

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Speaker 17: on it. Plus, there was a conscious effort by the

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Speaker 17: mayor and other leaders to work with the demonstrators and say,

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Speaker 17: we will protect your First Amendment rights, but we're not

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Speaker 17: going to condone violence and vandalism. We just not accept it.

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Speaker 17: We're not going to accept that. And so the police

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Speaker 17: have done a good job here, I think, and when

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Speaker 17: you consider past conventions, that is a very positive thing

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Speaker 17: to say. But the bottom line, as far as I'm

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Speaker 17: concerned is we understand, and they understand if the alternative

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Speaker 17: is Donald Trump in making these foreign policy decisions, they're

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Speaker 17: willing to work with Kamala Harris to see if there's

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Speaker 17: a reasonable way to resolve.

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Speaker 3: These Is that right?

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Speaker 4: And Joe Biden has struggled to reach a ceasefire here.

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Speaker 4: It was back in May when you rolled out that

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Speaker 4: initial six point plan, and he says he's going to

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Speaker 4: make this the priority for the rest of his term.

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Speaker 4: If he cannot secure a cease fire, is Kamala Harris

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Speaker 4: going to have an easier time doing well.

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Speaker 17: It's a big challenge for whoever as it coming up

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Speaker 17: with the agreement and then enforcing it. But we all know.

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Speaker 17: At least I feel I was with the first Senator

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Speaker 17: to say so that there should be a cease fire

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Speaker 17: and stop military operations and release the hostages. That I

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Speaker 17: think was a starting point to eventually finding some solution

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Speaker 17: in the Middle East. I've been disappointed with mister Nett

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Speaker 17: Yahoo when it comes to a two state solution. I

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Speaker 17: believe in it. I think that's been a all seeing

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Speaker 17: the past and should be again.

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Speaker 5: Well, obviously he wants to see that done. As I

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Speaker 5: mentioned earlier, he had also would like to see reforms

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Speaker 5: to the Supreme Court, something that would take congressional cooperation.

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Speaker 5: And I'm not sure, sir, how realistic you think that

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Speaker 5: may be, which brings us to the point of whether

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Speaker 5: or not you have more faith now than you would

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Speaker 5: have maybe four weeks ago, for your party to retain

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Speaker 5: control of the Senate, for you to be able to

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Speaker 5: retain your place as the majority.

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Speaker 17: There is no question there is a new spirit and

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Speaker 17: energy in the Democratic Party for this election. It started

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Speaker 17: when the decision was made by Joe Biden to step aside,

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Speaker 17: a selfless decision that I respect him for very much.

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Speaker 17: And that new attitude and approach is something that Donald

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Speaker 17: Trump's been unable to match. He just can't do it,

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Speaker 17: and he's frustrated by it. That's why he says these

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Speaker 17: bizarre things about We'll have one election, this will be

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Speaker 17: the last one. What in the hell is he talking about.

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Speaker 17: This is America. He doesn't get to dictated. The Constitution

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Speaker 17: makes it clear what the law is. And he's reaching

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Speaker 17: out in every direction, flailing away because this is a

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Speaker 17: new candidate he didn't anticipate.

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Speaker 4: I suspect that you've had a chance to talk with

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Speaker 4: your old colleague from the Senate about his decision to

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Speaker 4: drop out of the presidential race.

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Speaker 3: Did you give Joe Biden any advice? Did he have

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Speaker 3: words for you?

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Speaker 17: We did not, And I made a point, after thirty

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Speaker 17: years of friendship not to make a public statement, but

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Speaker 17: be in contact with him and talked to him. And

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Speaker 17: I've done that since after he made that decision. But

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Speaker 17: what it boiled down to her two sentences and his

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Speaker 17: speech to this convention, I love this job, but I

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Speaker 17: love this country even more. And I think that really

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Speaker 17: spelled out his resignation to the fact that he is

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Speaker 17: now going to be moving on and has to live

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Speaker 17: with his record, which I think has been one of

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Speaker 17: the best in history.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's great for you to come and see us

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Speaker 4: in Chicago. Thanks for showing us around.

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Speaker 17: So good to have here. Come back sometime when there's no.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely weather like this, might see a little more of

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Speaker 4: the city that way as well. Senator thank you. We'll

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Speaker 4: see you back in Washington. That's Dick Durbin of course,

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Speaker 4: if Illinois. Thank you for the time today.

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Speaker 5: We've already heard from a lot of the powerhouses within

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Speaker 5: the Democratic Party, including some others who were on the

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Speaker 5: vice presidential shortlist as we understood it. We heard last

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Speaker 5: night from Governor Josh Shapiro of Pennsylvania. We also heard

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Speaker 5: from the former South Bend, Indiana mayor and Transportation Secretary

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Speaker 5: Pete Budajech.

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Speaker 9: When the dog is barking and the air fryer is beeping,

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Speaker 9: and the mac and cheese is boiling over, and it

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Speaker 9: feels like all the political negotiating experience in the world

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Speaker 9: is not enough for me to get our three year

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Speaker 9: old son and our three year old daughter to just

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Speaker 9: wash their hands and sit at the table. This kind

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Speaker 9: of life went from impossible to possible, from possible to real,

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Speaker 9: from real to almost ordinary in less than half a lifetime.

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Speaker 9: But that didn't just happen. It was brought about through

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Speaker 9: idealism and courage, through organizing and persuasion and storytelling, and yes,

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Speaker 9: through politics, the right kind of politics, the kind of

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Speaker 9: politics that can make an impossible dream into an everyday reality.

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Speaker 5: Joining us now here on set in Chicago at the

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Speaker 5: Democratic National Convention is Tara Setmeyer, co founder and CEO

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Speaker 5: of the Seneca Project, and Krystal McCrary maguire, Seneca Project's

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Speaker 5: national finance chief. The Seneca Project is a bipartisan super

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Speaker 5: pac led by women with their goal of mobilizing women

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Speaker 5: voters in support of Kamala Harris. Welcome to you both.

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Speaker 5: Great to have you here on Blueberg two and Radio Terror.

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Speaker 5: Just speaking with you because you're trying to elect Kamala

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Speaker 5: Harris as someone who up until a few years ago

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Speaker 5: the Republican Party. So how does it feel being here

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Speaker 5: in Chicago, surrounded by some of the most faithful Democrats

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Speaker 5: that there are, and to be in this moment right now?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, it's frankly, it's very surreal, but you know what,

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Speaker 12: this is what happens when you're on the right side

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Speaker 12: of history and the right side of our democracy. And

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Speaker 12: for women, this is our moment. We have really never

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Speaker 12: seen a moment like this for women, the impact that

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Speaker 12: this election will have on women and what's at stake

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Speaker 12: for women. So when Michelle Kinney and I my co

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Speaker 12: founder of the Seneca Project, decided to do this and

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Speaker 12: embark on this, coming from a bipartisan perspective was important

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Speaker 12: because what's happening to women in this country impacts all

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Speaker 12: of us. It doesn't matter whether you have a D

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Speaker 12: or an R next to your name. If you are

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Speaker 12: bleeding out in a lobby of an emergency room in

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Speaker 12: a state that has now criminalized women's healthcare, that's what

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Speaker 12: we're facing, on top of other extremist agendas trying to

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Speaker 12: take women back. So the idea of us at Seneca

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Speaker 12: we have an ad called we Won't Go Back that

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Speaker 12: we made even before Kamala Harris was in the race.

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Speaker 12: So we felt like, well, we're on the right track here.

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Speaker 12: But that's the vibe we were getting from women, women

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Speaker 12: regardless of their political affiliation. So seeing this and being

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Speaker 12: here and being in this environment is markedly different than

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Speaker 12: the Republican Party. And the joyful warriors that are here,

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Speaker 12: the camaraderie, the energy, the enthusiasm. It's inspiring and we

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Speaker 12: firmly believe that if you galvanize women, we'll save this democracy.

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Speaker 12: And that's our goal at Seneca Project.

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Speaker 4: Well, we spent a lot of time talking the last

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Speaker 4: couple of weeks about the rapid turn that this election

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Speaker 4: has taken. This campaign, it was just a couple of

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Speaker 4: months ago people were talking about suburban women breaking for

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump, that this whole thing was falling apart for Democrats.

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Speaker 3: And because it's happened so fast. We haven't had so much.

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Speaker 4: Of a conversation about the historic nature of this candidacy

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Speaker 4: or this election.

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Speaker 18: Have we No, we haven't. And that's something that is

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Speaker 18: so compelling to me in so many women.

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Speaker 1: I look at my mother.

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Speaker 18: We're Michiganders. She's ninety eight years old, and she was

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Speaker 18: talking to me actually a few months ago about how

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Speaker 18: we're angry. And I was like, who's angry?

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Speaker 5: And she's like, me and my.

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Speaker 18: Crew are girls that are like seventy five to one

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Speaker 18: hundred and three years old. I said why, and she said,

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Speaker 18: because they're trying to take away our rights. They're trying

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Speaker 18: to take away our rights to choose. And I was like, mom,

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Speaker 18: you're ninety eight. You talk about reproductive justice or reproductive

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Speaker 18: freedom And she said, do you know how many women

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Speaker 18: I knew pre row who died during childbirth? And that

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Speaker 18: hit me in the core. And what I love about

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Speaker 18: the Seneca Project is that it's bipartisan. We are all Americans,

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Speaker 18: we are women in this organization, and we are trying

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Speaker 18: to fight and make sure that women ultimately have the

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Speaker 18: right to reproductive justice. And that is one of the

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Speaker 18: things that the Seneca Project is going to ensure across

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Speaker 18: the country we're getting the messaging out that this just

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Speaker 18: doesn't affect Democratic women, independent women, or Republican women. The

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Speaker 18: issues around IVF, the issues around contraceptives, that is something

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Speaker 18: that affects all families, and that is one of the

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Speaker 18: things that really appealed to me about the Seneca Project.

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Speaker 5: Well, and of course you serve as the finance chief,

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Speaker 5: and as you talk about getting the message out, most

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Speaker 5: of the time that requires money. And we've had a

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Speaker 5: conversation not just about the re energizing of female voters

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Speaker 5: and the attention they're paying to this race, but the

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Speaker 5: way in which more people are donating. The Harris campaign

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Speaker 5: says sixty percent of the three hundred and ten million

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Speaker 5: dollars they raised in July was from women. And I

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Speaker 5: just wonder if you think that's sustainable, If that money

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Speaker 5: is going to keep flowing.

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Speaker 18: Oh yeah, I not only think it's sustainable, but I

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Speaker 18: think it's going to continue to grow as we see

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Speaker 18: more and more what is actually at stake when we

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Speaker 18: continue to see the rights of women that are being attacked.

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Speaker 18: That's something that I've continued to see a trend, and

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Speaker 18: not just with registered voters, which we are seeing more

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Speaker 18: women registered to vote, but we're seeing it with young people.

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Speaker 4: Well, so we leave the convention tomorrow and it's the sprint.

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Speaker 4: We've got a debate in the beginning of September, and

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Speaker 4: it's going to be amazing how fast this goes by.

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Speaker 4: To think we have seventy five days is somewhat scary

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Speaker 4: to consider right now. So what's the strategy for Seneca

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Speaker 4: to seize on that very short window.

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Speaker 3: What's the roadshow going to look like? What do you

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Speaker 3: have planned?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, so I think that this truncated timetable actually benefits

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Speaker 12: us because the enthusiasm level is so high that post

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Speaker 12: Labor Day is really when everyone starts to pay attention.

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Speaker 12: And so now when ballots start getting sent out and

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Speaker 12: women particularly are paying attention to all of the things

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Speaker 12: that are under attack and under assault that transcends party lines,

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Speaker 12: they're going to go, Okay, what do we need to do?

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Speaker 12: So what our plan is. We're focusing on the battleground

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Speaker 12: states because that's where this is going to be one

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Speaker 12: and you're only talking about one hundred thousand voters in

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Speaker 12: about four states. That's it. This is going to be

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Speaker 12: one in the margins. So as we're speaking to these

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Speaker 12: moderate women, giving them the permissions structure that it's okay

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Speaker 12: for you to vote Republican this time. You don't have

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Speaker 12: to agree on everything because about the privacy aspect of this.

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Speaker 12: It's your ballot, your choice, just like with your bodies,

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Speaker 12: your body, your choice. It's your ballot, your choice, and

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Speaker 12: no one.

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Speaker 5: Else's well in on the ballot in some of these states,

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Speaker 5: including battlegrounds. Arizona is literally abortion right, and it's also

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Speaker 5: on the ballot in a state like Florida, which you

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Speaker 5: don't consider to be a battleground. But some Democrats, including

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Speaker 5: Congressoman w Washerman Schultzeo we spoke with here yesterday, has

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Speaker 5: suggested Florida might actually be in play and abortion could

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Speaker 5: be a reason. Why will you spend resources there?

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Speaker 12: Well, it depends. I mean, obviously, Florida is almost a

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Speaker 12: white whale for a lot of reasons, like Texas is too.

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Speaker 12: But what's interesting is that Florida is even in the conversation.

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Speaker 12: You have eight states with abortion on the ballot, with

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Speaker 12: women's rights on the ballot. Those ballot initiatives are getting

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Speaker 12: there because of bipartisan signatures. This is not just coming

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Speaker 12: from one party, particularly places like Arizona, which is critically

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Speaker 12: important too. Five hundred and seventy seven thousand signatures. It's

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Speaker 12: a record that means that these are women from all

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Speaker 12: across the board and men who were looking at the situation.

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Speaker 12: We also talk to the girl dads because we know

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Speaker 12: that girl The relationship between dads and daughters is a

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Speaker 12: very powerful one and a very persuadable one. So we'll

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Speaker 12: also be targeting those girl dads, explaining to them what's

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Speaker 12: at stake and do they really want their daughters in

989
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Speaker 12: a future where they don't have the same rights as

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Speaker 12: their grandmothers. So that is all part of our comprehensive

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Speaker 12: strategy of targeting those women in battleground states and places

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Speaker 12: where they have initiative. Ballot initiatives is even better because

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Speaker 12: the ground operations there keeps people.

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Speaker 18: Everyone's welcome, that's right, Everyone's welcome.

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Speaker 10: That's right.

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Speaker 18: Come one, come all, this is for women. We want

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Speaker 18: you to help the Seneca Project get some of our

998
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Speaker 18: ads on the air in the battleground states and beyond,

999
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Speaker 18: because this affects all Americans.

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Speaker 3: You said something important.

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Speaker 4: Though we're talking about one hundred thousands, we'll think of

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Speaker 4: what that is on a percentage. This is like a

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Speaker 4: basis point of the entire Americans margins.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, oh my gosh.

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Speaker 4: So why waste time in anything other than the seven ballot.

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Speaker 12: It's like a Michigan home game, right, that's.

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Speaker 13: House.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 4: Why would you look outside the swing states though, when

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Speaker 4: you're fighting over that smaller number, Well.

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Speaker 18: That is what we're doing at the Seneca Project. We

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Speaker 18: are within the swing states, to your point, and it

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Speaker 18: will be decided there and we are deeply committed to

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Speaker 18: getting the messaging across around reproductive freedom for all women,

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Speaker 18: all families.

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Speaker 5: Do you really feel like you're being competed with on

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Speaker 5: this messaging or the counter messaging rather, Because when Joe

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Speaker 5: and I were in Milwaukee last month, listening to those

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Speaker 5: who were on the stage, a lot of them white men,

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Speaker 5: specifically the issue of reproductive rights kind of being ignored.

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Speaker 5: We had a lot of conversations with this notion that

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Speaker 5: the Republican Party seems to have abandoned the attempts to

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00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 5: court suburban women, and that's unfortunate.

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Speaker 18: Will take the suburban women great, but.

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Speaker 5: Do you think you're having to fight them for that

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Speaker 5: vote or do you think that vote actually you're the

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Speaker 5: only one with that, with that audience that they're targeting.

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Speaker 18: I think we're not taking anything for granted, right would

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Speaker 18: you say that, Tarah, I mean anything for granted?

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Speaker 12: I would agree with that. This is going to be

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Speaker 12: a tough RaSE. This is by far you know we're

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Speaker 12: going to win it. No, no, no, we're confident that there's

1033
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Speaker 12: a path of victory. But this is going to be

1034
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 12: incredibly close, which is why every vote matters here. And

1035
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Speaker 12: the fact that the Republicans chose a ticket that wasn't

1036
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Speaker 12: exactly friendly to women's needs or rights, and that they're

1037
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Speaker 12: taking that for granted and almost just respectfully insulting women

1038
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Speaker 12: like this. They're almost doing our job for us as

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Speaker 12: far as messaging is concerned, because women can see through this.

1040
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Speaker 12: They can see through the insults, They see through the

1041
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Speaker 12: childless cat lady comments, and you know, every week it's

1042
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Speaker 12: a different set of insults for women, different demographics of women,

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Speaker 12: and that mobilizes women, and you know they're looking at

1044
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Speaker 12: this and saying, we are not going to put up

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Speaker 12: with this anymore, and you're not going to take our

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Speaker 12: vote for granted. We make up the largest propensity of

1047
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Speaker 12: voters in this country and we're the majority in this

1048
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Speaker 12: we're coming out so that there so if Mago wants

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Speaker 12: to continue to do that, it's at their own risk.

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Speaker 4: I wonder what you expect to hear on this specific

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Speaker 4: issue tonight from Kamala Harris. It was noteworthy Joe Biden

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Speaker 4: didn't like to say does not like to say the

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Speaker 4: word abortion out loud?

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Speaker 3: He does, should she?

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Speaker 18: I think the Vice President has been an incredible spokesperson

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Speaker 18: and advocate for women's rights writ large and specifically women's

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Speaker 18: rights around abortion care, which is healthcare indeed, and I

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Speaker 18: think that she has made that case extremely well to

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Speaker 18: the American people, and I think that she will continue

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Speaker 18: to make that because it is something that is so

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Speaker 18: critically important. I mean, our lives are on the line,

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Speaker 18: the lives of our daughters, the lives of our children. Mean,

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Speaker 18: the fact that jd Vance does not believe that a

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Speaker 18: person raped, a child raped has the right to an

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Speaker 18: abortion is disgraceful and tragic for women and families across

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Speaker 18: this country.

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Speaker 12: I mean, the messaging around freedom, I think is the

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Speaker 12: most important thing. And as a former Republican that appeals

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Speaker 12: to the constituency, we're talking to you because it's bigger

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Speaker 12: than just abortion. We've seen that they're coming for contraception,

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Speaker 12: for IVF, for no fault divorce. Do you trust women

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Speaker 12: to make the best decisions for their families, for their bodies,

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Speaker 12: for their daughters, and their futures. And Republicans don't seem

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Speaker 12: to do that. But I think what Kamala Harris is

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Speaker 12: doing messaging everything around the idea of freedom is taking

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Speaker 12: that back. Republicans do not own the concept of freedom

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Speaker 12: and individualism, and so that's what I think has been

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Speaker 12: a very smart pivot in the messaging that's appealing particularly

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Speaker 12: to those right of center women who are looking for

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Speaker 12: that permission structure to vote for Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 18: Republicans don't own what it means to be a patriots, correct,

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Speaker 18: And I think that that's something with the Seneca Project.

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Speaker 18: We are patriots and this is for all Americans again,

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Speaker 18: no matter what your political affiliation is.

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Speaker 4: Tarah set Mayor Crystal McCrary McGuire of the Seneca Project,

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Speaker 4: what a great conversation.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for being with us today. Thanks

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Speaker 3: for listening to the Balance of Power podcast.

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