Speaker 1: Scam, Come fry scam, Come.
Speaker 2: Rob's frot it?
Speaker 1: What's popping?
Speaker 3: Congregation? Is your girl? Lacey Mosley?
Speaker 2: Okay, scam God is back with another installment of the
Speaker 2: podcast all about robbery, fraud and those who practice it.
Speaker 3: Sometimes we love.
Speaker 2: Them, sometimes we hate them. One thing is for sure,
Speaker 2: we will never laugh at the victims, but we.
Speaker 3: Usually will laugh at them.
Speaker 2: And if you've listened to this podcast and for the
Speaker 2: first time you are seeing this podcast, welcome, Maybe this
Speaker 2: is the second third Welcome Hello. One thing I always
Speaker 2: know for sure is I'm very what yes excited through?
Speaker 4: I didn't know what the answer was.
Speaker 3: This is not your first time on the show.
Speaker 4: No, but you know I don't memorize. Lord, you know what,
Speaker 4: I had to memorize my whole script. You didn't get
Speaker 4: You didn't even send me one. I had to write
Speaker 4: it myself.
Speaker 3: Okay. You they hear me out like that. Okay, damn, damn.
Speaker 2: You know what I think y'all were too busy talking
Speaker 2: to Terrence Howard, So don't play me.
Speaker 4: We Oh, we gotta get that man in the studio.
Speaker 4: We gotta talk to him. You too, you really do.
Speaker 2: And they all realize all our cousins. Yeah, then we
Speaker 2: reboot Empire.
Speaker 4: That'd be nice if Terrence and I really like Former
Speaker 4: Brotherhood because he's like, oh, look at you, Isaay, my
Speaker 4: son has light eyes too, and then he goes, Okay.
Speaker 3: I love it, yes cousin.
Speaker 2: And so if you've been listening so far, you probably
Speaker 2: already recognize his voice. Then this is the actor stand
Speaker 2: up comedian Langston Kerman, who's best known for his appearances
Speaker 2: on series is Like Insecure, Habit, Elementary, south.
Speaker 3: Side, Bust Down, Listen. If it's black and it's funny,
Speaker 3: Langston Kerman is on it.
Speaker 2: You can watch a stand up special Bad Poetry on
Speaker 2: Netflix and listen to his podcast. My mama told me
Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcast, Hello, Langston, welcome back.
Speaker 4: What a phenomenal introduction.
Speaker 3: So nice, and the edited will be No, it was great.
Speaker 4: Don't edit the thing I want. I want it in there.
Speaker 4: I want every bit of it. What be yeahs?
Speaker 3: Do you yes?
Speaker 4: Like? Even like? Okay? Game of Thrones episode ends, they're
Speaker 4: telling you how they came up with that.
Speaker 3: So that's how I started hating it.
Speaker 4: Whoa, Matthew, you didn't care for the boys?
Speaker 3: Two boys I'm proud of them.
Speaker 2: You know, good for y'all, But do I need to
Speaker 2: see y'all in director's chairs telling me the process and
Speaker 2: doing hand stuff. I don't think I need to look
Speaker 2: at that. I just want to enjoy the show and
Speaker 2: then move on. But I remember that there's other people
Speaker 2: who are curious or maybe want to get into film
Speaker 2: in that way.
Speaker 4: So I really love when a Thrones episode ends and
Speaker 4: you find out which one of them actors is more
Speaker 4: British than they're pretending to be. Oh, yes, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. That accent changes and you're like, damn,
Speaker 4: you talk like that. That's different than how you've been
Speaker 4: talking as a king or queen or whatever.
Speaker 2: I'll never forget the first time this really felt like
Speaker 2: a scam because I always knew just Elba as a
Speaker 2: kid from my parents watching The Wire, and I'll never
Speaker 2: forget seeing him in a Stella Atua commercial and he's
Speaker 2: like steall A.
Speaker 3: Tall was like, the fuck.
Speaker 4: Yeah, why are you talking like that? Cut it out?
Speaker 4: Cut it out, you talk. You're talking like a Chimney sweep.
Speaker 4: I don't like that.
Speaker 3: I don't like that.
Speaker 4: Talk to me, talk to me like a killer.
Speaker 3: My pockets because I feel like.
Speaker 4: Rot you talk to me like a drug salesman, sir, right,
Speaker 4: like like we know you.
Speaker 2: Okay, Uh well, I want to start this episode off
Speaker 2: with listener letters.
Speaker 3: Because a listener letters section is back.
Speaker 2: I told y'all please email scampots pot at gmail dot com.
Speaker 3: Yell, snitch on your friends, your family, your loved ones,
Speaker 3: your enemies.
Speaker 2: Tell us all the scams that you've been through you've seen,
Speaker 2: as long as it's pass the statute of limitations, because
Speaker 2: we don't want to what og congregation, Yes, fuck up
Speaker 2: your bag.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're sick of you keeping secrets here, scam goddess,
Speaker 4: tell everything you know.
Speaker 2: No, I want you to gate keep until the scam
Speaker 2: is over, and then you can tell us about it
Speaker 2: when it's.
Speaker 4: Not hot no more. Yeah, then you.
Speaker 2: Show up when it's off the streets, when you got
Speaker 2: your bag, then you can let the public know.
Speaker 4: Respect.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't want to ruin it.
Speaker 4: I myself, I prefer you tell us immediately. And Isaiah's
Speaker 4: I'm a part of this now you are. I've weaseled
Speaker 4: my way into this institution very quickly. Uh No, please.
Speaker 2: Love it so Langston n need from you is a
Speaker 2: name for this person. We don't care about gender, so
Speaker 2: it could literally be anything.
Speaker 4: We were talking about him earlier. It naturally comes to
Speaker 4: mind Tyrese or I know him, it's okay, fair enough.
Speaker 2: He's so unintentionally funny, and that's what I really love
Speaker 2: about him.
Speaker 4: I can't tell if he's being unintentional or not. I
Speaker 4: am so taken with Tyresee.
Speaker 3: I think he's maybe you think he's.
Speaker 4: I think that there we are. We are every once
Speaker 4: in a in a generation blessed with an individual who
Speaker 4: is so much of a master full gamesman that they
Speaker 4: were able to be here.
Speaker 3: You're calling Tyres a masterful gamesman.
Speaker 4: I don't know a funnier person on Earth, and I
Speaker 4: do this professionally. I'm not even close to how funny
Speaker 4: Tyres is. The Brothers sung the national anthem in a
Speaker 4: fake weird in a fake fake beard and a fake
Speaker 4: wig for no reason. Yeah, he didn't have to do that,
Speaker 4: and he never explained it to us. I don't have
Speaker 4: that confidence. I came here dressed normal.
Speaker 2: We need to bring back that kind of confidence, you
Speaker 2: know that comes from being a celebrity in the early
Speaker 2: two thousands, because Tyra Banks has the same shit, and
Speaker 2: that's why I couldn't get that mad at Tyro when
Speaker 2: I was doing her episode and learning about all the
Speaker 2: scams she was running, because I was like, we let
Speaker 2: her do this.
Speaker 4: She was eighteen. We said take your clothes off. We
Speaker 4: like the way you look naked. So so of course
Speaker 4: she learned to scam her way up to you know,
Speaker 4: billions of dollars.
Speaker 2: And I love that for her truly, And I brought
Speaker 2: that up because, like you said, the beard in the
Speaker 2: National Anthem, you know, recently, when she was still in
Speaker 2: her hot ice cream she was on tour in Australia,
Speaker 2: just like popping up at gay clubs as Santa Smise
Speaker 2: in a yellow Santa costume, doing jokes very sweatily.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And at one point we were like, do we
Speaker 2: need to check on her? And then we were like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, we forgot she's Tyra.
Speaker 3: This is what's time and it's our fault because we
Speaker 3: just keep going and.
Speaker 4: Some Coca Cola commercials. We gotta yeah, we gotta let
Speaker 4: my boy thrive. I think he's one of the best.
Speaker 4: Shout out to Tyrese.
Speaker 2: I hope I would love that. So the name Tyrese
Speaker 2: is what we're gonna work with. Here, So I call
Speaker 2: this bank bestie when I read this letter and see
Speaker 2: why soon so Tyree says, scam goddess, guess that would
Speaker 2: be you Langston and that little congregation, not you addressing
Speaker 2: the church like these the morning minutes.
Speaker 3: Oh and she did say she heard normally doesn't matter.
Speaker 4: But she just.
Speaker 2: So, girl, Tyresas, I was recently recounting a scam adjacent
Speaker 2: experience I had, and I thought I would share it
Speaker 2: because it seems just like scandalous enough to share. I
Speaker 2: used to work at a bank and there was a
Speaker 2: lady who started coming in and we bonded pretty easily,
Speaker 2: and she started coming to me exclusively.
Speaker 4: Oh so she's a teller at this bank. This person
Speaker 4: is actively being like, I'll wait for a girl.
Speaker 2: For a girl, Tyrese. Yeah, that's why I do my banking.
Speaker 2: That's the only my checking in my savings.
Speaker 4: Girl, y'all are either friends or she's running a game
Speaker 4: and sees you as a mark.
Speaker 2: At first, I thought, you know what, there are a
Speaker 2: lot of people frequent the bank because if you have
Speaker 2: a business and like, let's say you got like a
Speaker 2: laundry mat with a laundry of money, bossl coins you know,
Speaker 2: you got to bring your coins or whatever.
Speaker 3: To the bank.
Speaker 4: I hate doing check on phone, right, It's annoying that
Speaker 4: I there's like eight steps to doing check on phone.
Speaker 4: I just want to hand it to a person and you.
Speaker 3: Do check and move on.
Speaker 2: Like I hate that there's an app for everything. I
Speaker 2: don't need an app for it's everything. I got download
Speaker 2: something to do everything.
Speaker 4: And imagine you have a girl Tyrese that your bank
Speaker 4: and you go, hey, I recognized girl Tyrese. I'm familiar
Speaker 4: with girl Tyree. I like how quickly girl Tyrese does
Speaker 4: my my business. I'm gonna go to the girl.
Speaker 3: Positive at this point, she probably knows you're paying.
Speaker 4: She got it, she liked it.
Speaker 2: So I was thinking, like, okay, maybe building a relationship
Speaker 2: like that. But then I thought about every transactional relationship
Speaker 2: where I have a familiarity, and then I realized there's
Speaker 2: always something.
Speaker 3: In return for the customer.
Speaker 2: So like if you're a regular at a restaurant, they
Speaker 2: might start giving you freebies or special tables or whatever. Like,
Speaker 2: think about everywhere that you recognize someone, like I had
Speaker 2: a girl at the DMV, a lady at the DMV.
Speaker 2: Because it took me like two years to get my
Speaker 2: car registered.
Speaker 4: When I first went to l A, you're going to
Speaker 4: the DMV too much if you have built up personal
Speaker 4: relationships with DMV folks, and that's no shade at the DMV.
Speaker 4: Thank you for your service. That said you gotta chill
Speaker 4: on your DMB was cool.
Speaker 2: As fun, though, but every time I came in, I
Speaker 2: almost had all the paper I needed and she was like, Babe, you're.
Speaker 3: Missing this one. I need this slip right here, and
Speaker 3: did you go get the car? Wait?
Speaker 4: This is multiple attempts, multiple failures that then makes you
Speaker 4: build this relationship with Miss Patricia.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I would only go to her. And by the
Speaker 2: time I finally got my car register, I came in
Speaker 2: with everything like I was really ready. This time I
Speaker 2: was locked in because I got pulled over and the
Speaker 2: impounded it.
Speaker 4: Okay, so I was like, I really got locked Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: you needed miss Patricia.
Speaker 2: And so when I came in with everything ready, I
Speaker 2: was looking for Miss Patricia and I asked at the
Speaker 2: desk and they were like, oh, she retired, And I
Speaker 2: was like, I haven't gone to her for so long
Speaker 2: as this lady retired, that's crazy.
Speaker 3: But I needed something I needed something from her.
Speaker 2: So I understand that, but I'm like, I'm a little
Speaker 2: suspicious because I'm like, why you need a relationship with
Speaker 2: somebody at the bank. So, girls, Tory says, she came
Speaker 2: in like, you know, every week basically, and would bring
Speaker 2: in a couple thousand and cash to deposit, which is
Speaker 2: perfectly fine, which it should be.
Speaker 3: It's bad girls.
Speaker 2: How we would chat about her kids and her day,
Speaker 2: nothing too far beyond like really basic small talk. She
Speaker 2: didn't tell me much about her life, but from our
Speaker 2: conversations I gathered that they immigrated to the US from
Speaker 2: Cameroon quite some time earlier, and that her husband was very,
Speaker 2: very sick, and she came in with power of attorney
Speaker 2: for him and all these documents.
Speaker 4: That's where I go, uh oh, once is the language
Speaker 4: of power of attorney is happening with the teller at
Speaker 4: your bank?
Speaker 3: And girl read this is a small talk.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a small talk. Is you're depositing cash.
Speaker 4: How are we getting to power of attorney from cash transactions?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's bigger talk, girl.
Speaker 2: And so they were doing all this stuff, and the
Speaker 2: lady was telling Girl Tyree that once these documents were
Speaker 2: squared away, with legal you know, she could become acting
Speaker 2: on his behalf, like she was power of attorney. So
Speaker 2: she was saying, like, girl is like, this is all
Speaker 2: above board.
Speaker 3: You know what a check?
Speaker 2: So girl T said she came in one day lamenting
Speaker 2: that another institution had closed their business account, which is
Speaker 2: why they had been operating with cash until they could
Speaker 2: get a new one. Wow, why is this lady volunteering
Speaker 2: so much information?
Speaker 4: It's a lot of information, but what a what a
Speaker 4: beautiful long game she's playing, Because she said, I'll start
Speaker 4: with my kids, I'll tell you a little bit about Cameroon,
Speaker 4: and then you're gonna find out about my sick husband,
Speaker 4: very very sick, and some complicated paperwork that we're waiting on.
Speaker 4: And now all of a sudden, businesses are closing. Uh,
Speaker 4: situations have changed, girl, tyresee. I bet this is what's
Speaker 4: coming with girl ty Reese. I'm gonna need your help
Speaker 4: with something.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's see, let's see.
Speaker 2: So girls said, I let her know that we could
Speaker 2: move that account over. So the lady was telling her, Oh,
Speaker 2: we can only do cash now, so we need to
Speaker 2: like figure out this cash situation.
Speaker 3: Girl was like, bring that account over. The whales Fargo
Speaker 3: or whatever.
Speaker 4: Start making with us Tyre International.
Speaker 2: And so Girltari said, as long as she could bring
Speaker 2: like she told her, as long as she could bring
Speaker 2: the required documents, she said that she would gather them.
Speaker 2: And Girl Tyres told her that she would get the
Speaker 2: process started and you know, work with the state and
Speaker 2: do all the stuff. Then girl Tyrese realized. She says,
Speaker 2: I discovered that her husband was not sick at all.
Speaker 2: Oh oh, he was in federal custody on terrorism charges.
Speaker 2: Whoa damn yes, And girl Ty's put a link in here.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to share that because she asked to
Speaker 2: remain anonymous.
Speaker 3: And I tell you, maybe too much. We might be
Speaker 3: able to find the branch wall.
Speaker 4: So she just did some basic Google. That's phenomenal to
Speaker 4: go from being like I have no information about you.
Speaker 4: You're just telling me things right here and.
Speaker 3: There, everything about it.
Speaker 4: All I had to do was google your your husband's
Speaker 4: name and know that he is fully in federal prison.
Speaker 2: So girl Tari said, all the stuff that she learned
Speaker 2: during the search led to and I'm paraphrasing girl, because
Speaker 2: we got to move on. I love your language here,
Speaker 2: your addiction, and this is great grammar. You know, this
Speaker 2: is rare since I'm written by chet G.
Speaker 4: And that's not the order of those letters. But yes, absolutely.
Speaker 3: Fast g t P P teck check chut chut them
Speaker 3: checking them check what I'm talking about? Okay, I call
Speaker 3: him what a mama call him.
Speaker 2: Basically, Girl Tarius found out that this lady was coming
Speaker 2: in and depositing cash, and portions of the cash that
Speaker 2: she was depositing from her business were the solicited funds
Speaker 2: being used to fund violence in their home country.
Speaker 4: WHOA, they're supporting a coup. Yeah, that's oh wow, they're
Speaker 4: militarizing a community.
Speaker 3: Girl was not trying to get involved in like a
Speaker 3: rwandanst conflict.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's fair. That's a fair reason to say, hey,
Speaker 4: I respectfully bow out of doing business with you.
Speaker 2: And girls are you said that she knew people who
Speaker 2: were cameroony and who told her about the civil unrest.
Speaker 3: WHOA, yeah, so she was like damn, I was like
Speaker 3: over passing.
Speaker 4: You're you're doing small talk with the literal criminals. Wow,
Speaker 4: that's cool. How often do you get to meet a
Speaker 4: war criminal?
Speaker 3: You know, that's true more often than we think.
Speaker 2: Politician politicians, you going any tech conferences.
Speaker 4: Sure. I think if they're high enough in any corporation,
Speaker 4: they are in some version of war criminal.
Speaker 3: So we bomb at them.
Speaker 4: We meet that many CEOs, though not in a meaningful way.
Speaker 4: You you'll shake their hand and in a greeting line, right,
Speaker 4: but never you don't get to just hang out that often.
Speaker 2: We used to not know their faces, and then everybody
Speaker 2: got so thirsty for attention until allegedly LUIGIMNNGIONI changed all
Speaker 2: of that and they're like, you know, we should be
Speaker 2: anonymous again.
Speaker 4: Why you don't want my face on the website if that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, conferences, No, now they're doing it like they're on
Speaker 2: a datelight episode or they go to their tech conferences.
Speaker 3: Was like a black sad and a changed voice.
Speaker 4: Now they like burs. Actually, I think i'd wear one
Speaker 4: of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not the president. I was fucked up with us,
Speaker 3: which it was, it was fucked up with them to say.
Speaker 2: But so when all this came to like wrapping this up,
Speaker 2: girl Tyree said that I immediately sent everything to our
Speaker 2: compliance department and told my manager. She was like, I
Speaker 2: am out. I was told not to speak with her anymore,
Speaker 2: which she said is easy and to let my manager
Speaker 2: handle everything moving forward. I'm confident this was to protect me,
Speaker 2: but it still broke my heart. She was so nice
Speaker 2: to me, introduced me to her two adorable kids and
Speaker 2: sweet mother and her mother.
Speaker 4: Her mom came, the whole family. Girls a damn to
Speaker 4: drop off cash. They all had little little bundles of
Speaker 4: cash that they wanted to hand in.
Speaker 2: You know, it's also bumping me about this. Yeah, girls,
Speaker 2: area's putting all the paperwork right. She told the bank
Speaker 2: she did the protocol, and the bank was.
Speaker 3: Like, will handle this.
Speaker 2: You never speak to you again if you see her,
Speaker 2: just put Sinda de Aisle.
Speaker 3: Number six, So we'll handle like we're gonna keep taking.
Speaker 4: That's the crazy part is like not only are they
Speaker 4: going to keep taking the money, but also this this
Speaker 4: false premise of like she's the bad guy and we
Speaker 4: know who the good guy. We don't know why they're
Speaker 4: funding or what they're funding over there in Cameroon, So
Speaker 4: so who is girl Tyresee or this manager at the
Speaker 4: bank to decide what serving justice is.
Speaker 3: They don't care. They don't care, like they know when
Speaker 3: criminals are coming in.
Speaker 4: They that bank is supporting a different war and therefore.
Speaker 2: Is minding bank business. They said, this is our business.
Speaker 2: We take our coins and we don't tell us nothing else.
Speaker 4: Okay, let that cameroon in. Is that how you say that?
Speaker 3: It is?
Speaker 4: Okay? Great? I took a big swing. Let that person
Speaker 4: live and their children and fake sick husband.
Speaker 2: So at the end, wrapping it up, Girl Tyree says
Speaker 2: that this lady was very smart about how she worked
Speaker 2: with me, and I never questioned her for a second.
Speaker 2: It was only when I tried to do something helpful
Speaker 2: for her that I discovered the truth. It's been years,
Speaker 2: but I'm still mad that I fail for it. Anyway,
Speaker 2: That's all I have.
Speaker 3: Love the show.
Speaker 2: Thank you for everything you do. Oh, thank you, Girl Tyreese.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you for you like I appreciate you writing
Speaker 2: in and also now this leads me to a question linksin.
Speaker 3: Yeah you have children.
Speaker 4: I have two of them. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you think that you should do like at least
Speaker 2: one child scam bonding activity with your kids like everyone should? Oh,
Speaker 2: because I feel like the kids are somehow a part
Speaker 2: of this, Like she kept bringing them to.
Speaker 3: The bank to Girl Tyrese like disarming her.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no there's no better way to make people
Speaker 4: be nice to you than to show up with kids,
Speaker 4: right unless it's a place where they didn't want kids.
Speaker 4: But for the most part, if you show up with
Speaker 4: kids and they're cute, that people are pretty reasonable with you.
Speaker 4: So yeah, that's smart on this Cameronian person's part. I
Speaker 4: think that your kids at least need to be aware
Speaker 4: of the potential for illegitimate choices. Do you know what
Speaker 4: I mean that? Like, you need to be able to
Speaker 4: know that, like scams can and could should be run
Speaker 4: at certain times, right, so that even if it's small,
Speaker 4: even if it's just like, hey, you know, you're six
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 3: Right at the movies, Daddy, I'm not.
Speaker 4: When we get there, you're six, And that's something you're
Speaker 4: gonna have to say for us to be able to
Speaker 4: get what we need from this experience. Are you capable
Speaker 4: of doing that? And they go, yes, I am, and
Speaker 4: they don't falter. That's that's the type of I hope
Speaker 4: relationship to form with my children.
Speaker 3: I think that's beautiful. That's how they earn their key.
Speaker 4: That you said it, I didn't have such beautiful words,
Speaker 4: but yes, I agree with you fully.
Speaker 3: I do. One of my best friends, Jojo, she used
Speaker 3: to work was years and years ago. She worked in
Speaker 3: retail and in Jersey and there were these crime rings
Speaker 3: that would come into the store and you know they
Speaker 3: have like no chase policies. They would come in with
Speaker 3: their baby strollers and people would think it was a
Speaker 3: baby up in there. Maybe it was.
Speaker 2: They would walk past tables and just sweep merchandise into.
Speaker 3: The baby strollers. Okay there, Maybe because we're working right.
Speaker 4: Now, I don't want beats pills falling on a baby's
Speaker 4: head because they're sweeping fast.
Speaker 3: And still maybe I gotta learn to dug and died
Speaker 3: and your keep baby.
Speaker 2: Yes, so I'm like, I like to see unemployed child,
Speaker 2: but scarce.
Speaker 3: Cod. Now it's time to.
Speaker 2: Get into my favorite segment of this podcast, Historic Hoodwinks.
Speaker 2: This is where I regale Langston with a famous concaper
Speaker 2: group of criminals. Maybe we love them, maybe we hate them.
Speaker 2: We'll see you along the way, but one thing for sure,
Speaker 2: we'll probably will laugh at them. And today we're talking
Speaker 2: about Jonathan DuPont. Okay, Jonathan duptin Is, as it reads
Speaker 2: from me, who hosts the podcast Rich and Unemployed and
Speaker 2: uses the motto thought is Dope. He has been sentenced
Speaker 2: to seven years in prison for a three million dollar
Speaker 2: fraud In honor of my mama told you me, I
Speaker 2: wanted to give you a black podcaster with very specific philosophies.
Speaker 3: I think you might enjoy this Jonathan dupe tone. Now
Speaker 3: it's spelled duped in to me, dupedin that. I feel
Speaker 3: like it's duped in around the way.
Speaker 4: You feel like nobody is giving him the full French
Speaker 4: influence that is living under that that name.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 4: He don't looks like a home hoome we we no, no, no,
Speaker 4: he's trying with that hand.
Speaker 3: Why you got that beret on? That's how I know
Speaker 3: it's not he's.
Speaker 4: Really he's wanting to sell it with his beret. But no,
Speaker 4: I hear you.
Speaker 3: So he hosts a podcast called Rich and Unemployed.
Speaker 4: Okay, I like that. Amen, Hey, I'm trying to listen.
Speaker 2: That's all I wanted. So he uses his his motto
Speaker 2: fraud in all caps. This is the motto fraud is Dope.
Speaker 2: And now he's been sentenced to seven years in prison
Speaker 2: for three hundred million dollars worth of fraud.
Speaker 4: Whoa it was in the titles fraud is Dope.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and now well that was his mantra, you have
Speaker 3: fraud in all caps, because, as you're gonna see in
Speaker 3: a moment, it's an acronym fraud. For him, he was saying,
Speaker 3: it's dope, this is this is you gotta be up here,
Speaker 3: you open your third Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, wake up, brothers and sisters. Fraud is dope. Fraud
Speaker 4: is not what you think it is, but it also is.
Speaker 3: You and me.
Speaker 2: So let's just get a little bit of his backstory
Speaker 2: before we get into his crimes. So du Paton was
Speaker 2: born in New Jersey to Haitian parents. Oh no, he's Haitian.
Speaker 4: Seem I'm not going to react to that, but I am.
Speaker 3: Everybody knows why.
Speaker 4: I've gotten enough trouble with the Haitian community, burned bridges
Speaker 4: left and right that said, this is a sneaky looking motherfucker.
Speaker 2: That's very I'm sorry as someone who has dated Haitians,
Speaker 2: like y'all understand if you've ever dated what, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: When I taught high school, it was to a primarily
Speaker 4: uh A Haitian group of kids. It was like a
Speaker 4: Caribbean community in Boston.
Speaker 3: He was blending in with the with the Caribbean people.
Speaker 4: I was trying my best. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, a
Speaker 4: lot of Scotch bonding for lunch. We were doing what
Speaker 4: we could. Yeah, we put it on top and you go, hey,
Speaker 4: pretty good. Hey, maybe maybe we're not so different, you
Speaker 4: and I. Maybe maybe that's enough for you to do
Speaker 4: the homework.
Speaker 3: You were solving the diaspora.
Speaker 4: You use the diaspora wars to intervene into Hey did
Speaker 4: you you finish that essay? Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: We're all of it is is guiding towards the hand
Speaker 4: of give me the shit I need.
Speaker 3: Right, So this was your scam. You were just getting
Speaker 3: involved with the culture.
Speaker 4: I'll learn about you. Maybe you could learn about the
Speaker 4: Odyssey and then tell me, yeah, maybe this is a
Speaker 4: little bit like some of the people you know from
Speaker 4: your history books. Right, it's when white people turn the
Speaker 4: chair around and tell you Shakespeare and Biggie Smalls they're
Speaker 4: actually not that different, Dawn, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Maybe? Yeah, and that actually saved me from teen pregnancy.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, white lady.
Speaker 3: Turned her chair around.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, tupaccast the poetry book as well. Okay,
Speaker 4: now now you're dropping bars.
Speaker 2: So he had Haitian parents, right, and they were born.
Speaker 2: He was born in New Jersey. He was raised in
Speaker 2: the scam.
Speaker 3: Capital the US, and it might be the world. You
Speaker 3: want to guess what city.
Speaker 4: I'm going to see us if we're saying scam capital Atlanta?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, man, you know you know the vibes, you know,
Speaker 2: and so did they. So in interviews, he describes his
Speaker 2: life as a story of early struggle. He success where
Speaker 2: we heard that before, never heard of the rags to rich.
Speaker 4: That's a first. Nobody's ever done that.
Speaker 2: Want somebody who's rich to come out and just be
Speaker 2: like I was born rich and I got.
Speaker 3: Nothing was hard.
Speaker 4: I came out my mama's pussy with a ladder and
Speaker 4: it kept going up.
Speaker 2: You just see how I laugh at your ports. We
Speaker 2: talked about started on third base. Maybe I started in.
Speaker 4: The box third base. You're running. That's embarrassing. They made
Speaker 4: you swing. They just let me do. They let me
Speaker 4: do the bases at the end because I'm in charge.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he said he turned it into success.
Speaker 2: He's spoken about getting into trouble at a young age
Speaker 2: and use that narrative as fuel for his come up message.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So before podcasting, you worked as a photographer. Eventually pivoting
Speaker 2: into content creation. By twenty twenty two, his rich and
Speaker 2: unemployed platform started to get traction with unfiltered conversations about money, relationships,
Speaker 2: and success outside of traditional paths.
Speaker 4: That's dope because he really he hit.
Speaker 3: Them hands on the table.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, because I respect him so much, he
Speaker 4: he really hit every pocket of sort of like the
Speaker 4: transition of presenting. Like I have a skill set. Without
Speaker 4: having a skill set, you started photography. That's an easy
Speaker 4: entry point. You get a DSLR camera and.
Speaker 3: Then you just click click, click, click click.
Speaker 4: You know how to take decent enough photos, and you
Speaker 4: a cool enough vibe that people start hiring you for events.
Speaker 4: Start sort of like letting you do.
Speaker 3: And the average person doesn't know what a good photo
Speaker 3: looks like.
Speaker 4: You could take some pictures of bad bitches, call them headshots.
Speaker 4: It's all I see the vision. Now you're content creating.
Speaker 4: That broadens the title. Now I don't just do photography.
Speaker 4: I do all kinds of What.
Speaker 3: Is content creation?
Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm still trying to figure that out.
Speaker 3: And we are contents of God's creation, so technically.
Speaker 4: Okay, we always I didn't know you were going to
Speaker 4: bring the Lord into this, but I agree with you.
Speaker 4: I agree with you. I think he's the Finesse is powerful,
Speaker 4: it is fast.
Speaker 2: Yes, so his brand really leaned heavily into finesse culture.
Speaker 2: The flashy, high risk mindset promotes getting ahead by any
Speaker 2: means necessary.
Speaker 3: So when or like die, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: No, it's it's it is language we've gotten used to
Speaker 4: because of a few psychopaths.
Speaker 3: Yeah, remember what he was on that campra like it
Speaker 3: is real because we are dying now because people weren't voting.
Speaker 4: But that's what's crazy, is like these.
Speaker 3: Now we eating booty letters because.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because we didn't. We didn't. We didn't listen to Diddy.
Speaker 3: We didn't we should.
Speaker 4: If you learned anything from Lacey's podcast, and unfortunately I'm
Speaker 4: out of this business. Uh, if you've learned anything from Lacey's.
Speaker 2: Because you're not gonna get me, just send me up, Okay.
Speaker 2: So on the podcast, he goes by the name Finesse.
Speaker 3: WHOA, so that's a signature camera thing? Changed your name?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Finesse Mitchell. As far as I know that he
Speaker 4: was born with that, really yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I like naming my baby Finesse, because,
Speaker 2: like I didn't choose that.
Speaker 4: I certainly had the option twice and I didn't go.
Speaker 4: That will be finessa right name.
Speaker 3: One of my baby's hustle.
Speaker 4: Right, I'm naming my baby rubbing his hands together. This
Speaker 4: is my this is my daughter birdman hand rub and
Speaker 4: it's a girl name.
Speaker 3: That's my son mob money over.
Speaker 4: Bitches and this is James.
Speaker 3: Right. We couldn't anymore.
Speaker 4: We got board. He wasn't really part of the plan.
Speaker 3: But yeah, he was an accident, so we ran out.
Speaker 2: So here's a video clip of him talking about the
Speaker 2: importance of connecting with nature where he does push ups
Speaker 2: on the beach and he's talking about the importance of
Speaker 2: sacrificing and eating.
Speaker 3: Peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yes, and so in this clip he explains how money
Speaker 2: can't unlame alame.
Speaker 4: Okay, kind of just so important to be around nature
Speaker 4: because nature gives you, it revitalized you.
Speaker 3: It does on the ocean and the rid.
Speaker 4: Living in the.
Speaker 5: City, all the food, the air, all the loud noises
Speaker 5: sound pretty loud.
Speaker 1: You're therapeutic.
Speaker 4: The sound, the sound of the oceans. It's not going
Speaker 4: to get the shore boot shorts.
Speaker 1: That's how you connect max to yourself.
Speaker 4: That's how you connect with the universe by touching.
Speaker 3: Okay, you can turn this man off. No, he's right,
Speaker 3: we'll play it off. He is saying a.
Speaker 4: Whole lot of Yeah, you gotta connect with nature. You
Speaker 4: gotta be one with with your environment. All the city,
Speaker 4: all that noise distracting you from being your best self,
Speaker 4: as evidenced by his push ups on the rock.
Speaker 3: On the rocks in the ocean with the waves.
Speaker 4: Crash, I've never done that. You've done that.
Speaker 3: I have not done a waves crashing ocean beach push up.
Speaker 4: And that's why you're not in prison.
Speaker 3: Right I could, It would be if I was that motivated.
Speaker 2: I just liked that he really wanted to just show
Speaker 2: off that he was on the beach and that he
Speaker 2: could do push ups.
Speaker 4: He wanted us to know a few things. That he
Speaker 4: had money for the beach, that he looked good with
Speaker 4: his shirt off, and he had a new chain. He's like,
Speaker 4: I got a new little chain, and I want you
Speaker 4: to see that, and I want you to see me
Speaker 4: with my shirt off, and I want you to know
Speaker 4: I'm hanging out.
Speaker 3: Hey, this is my shirtless chain, this is my beach chain.
Speaker 4: You know I wear a bigger chain. I choose not to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right now, this is all my neck knee.
Speaker 4: I don't want the chain to disrupt my connection to
Speaker 4: the universe. I wear a humble chain, and I love.
Speaker 2: I have to bring it back to you explaining the
Speaker 2: nature because that is literally what he was doing on ironically,
Speaker 2: which makes me think that on his podcast talking about
Speaker 2: finances relationships, it's giving, like low vibrational, like who gets
Speaker 2: the big piece of chicken two hundred dollars day or
Speaker 2: money and finances if you don't have crypto, why you
Speaker 2: don't have crypto?
Speaker 4: Here's why my wife ain't allowed to eat till I
Speaker 4: finished my meal. Yes, and that's why we have a
Speaker 4: profitable household. Yeah no, I yeah, I got you.
Speaker 2: And the people like I've never heard this before. I
Speaker 2: love that you can just repackage misogyny. I don't know
Speaker 2: why I'm doing an educational podcast. I'm honestly about to
Speaker 2: get out of the game and just starts saying bullshit
Speaker 2: and nae, were.
Speaker 4: We David Bori, my dear co hosts with our podcast,
Speaker 4: we talk about it all the time, that that if
Speaker 4: we just if we cranked it up forty percent of
Speaker 4: just being mean to women. Oh my god, the money
Speaker 4: we could make, the profits we could be saying if
Speaker 4: I don't even need forty if we got twenty percent
Speaker 4: more of just being nasty to ladies, and we could
Speaker 4: make some money.
Speaker 3: And I hate that I have to go the opposite direction.
Speaker 2: I have to go forty percent less of like calling
Speaker 2: men out on their shit, yeah, and forty more pick me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, if you were mean to women twenty percent.
Speaker 3: More, damn, which is being mean to women. You're right,
Speaker 3: we all got to be mean.
Speaker 4: We just all got to be mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta be like if you weren't chose why Yep,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: And you are. The unfortunate part with with being a
Speaker 4: woman is you are going to hear a lot more
Speaker 4: pushback for your behavior than I am for.
Speaker 3: Mine, which is so unfortunate.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you are really gonna get called some nasty names
Speaker 4: by the people who bet on you. But boy, those
Speaker 4: those checks are gonna clear so fast they are. They're
Speaker 4: gonna be.
Speaker 2: When I'm sleeping with all that money. Will I really
Speaker 2: care about the comments?
Speaker 4: I don't think so. Probably not, probably not so.
Speaker 2: The podcast slogan is fraud is dope, remember right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I shold you.
Speaker 3: Fraud was in all caps. It's an acronym.
Speaker 2: So fraud is the acronym that stands for finally rich
Speaker 2: after unstoppable determination.
Speaker 3: WHOA. I like that finally rich, finally stoppable determination.
Speaker 4: Because that tells you that you gotta keep going. That
Speaker 4: puts you on the hook.
Speaker 3: So what if they said, no, you're unstoppable, then what
Speaker 3: you need to say put your hands up and empty
Speaker 3: your pocket.
Speaker 4: Be determined to get what you need exactly at any cost.
Speaker 4: This language used to exist for civil rights, but now
Speaker 4: we're using it for running fraud.
Speaker 2: That's that's cool, But it isn't fraud a little bit
Speaker 2: of civil rights for us?
Speaker 4: Okay, it's as much as.
Speaker 2: The government is doing to us. I feel like it
Speaker 2: is a little bit of our civil rights now to
Speaker 2: do it just look sprinkled upward.
Speaker 3: Not to people who need their money.
Speaker 2: I don't believe in ripping off people like that, but
Speaker 2: to people who are ripping us off, I'm like, I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 3: We need to do a little fra.
Speaker 4: I think the unfortunate reality of capitalism is that we're
Speaker 4: all never satisfied with our upward mobility. And then we
Speaker 4: then turn into the very people we thought we were
Speaker 4: running a game on. So yeah, we all we should
Speaker 4: all run it up, and we should all feel terrible effort, because.
Speaker 2: Honestly, if Republicans could take the bigotry, the killing my people,
Speaker 2: the rampant corruption, and the creepiness and pedophilia, if they
Speaker 2: could take all of the horrible things that they are
Speaker 2: off the table and just be like, hey, you can
Speaker 2: keep more of your money if you vote for us.
Speaker 2: If it was just keep money, which used to be
Speaker 2: the platform, right, sure, let's government in my pocket, might
Speaker 2: be like, hmm okay money.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you guys got four bad traits, counted four
Speaker 4: pretty big batteries I can't over. If you could just
Speaker 4: stop being pedophiles, you'd be pretty cool.
Speaker 3: That's where you start saying, You're like, I'm not old jay,
Speaker 3: I'm not black, I'm Ojai. Yeah. I don't ever want
Speaker 3: to be that deep, but you know, I can see
Speaker 3: the field and I hate that for me.
Speaker 2: So, at its peak, Rich and Unemployed had built a
Speaker 2: solid following across the YouTube, Spotify, and Apple podcast, with
Speaker 2: more than two hundred thousand followers and hundreds of episodes.
Speaker 2: Right the show might have gotten a bump from his
Speaker 2: possible relationship with Real Housewives Atlanta star Porscha Williams.
Speaker 4: Okay, get into larger love and listen.
Speaker 3: If one thing Poria gonna do, she gonna find a scammer.
Speaker 4: Is that her thing?
Speaker 3: Yet, like her ex, he was deported for doing crimes?
Speaker 4: Okay, yes, so this is number two of of men
Speaker 4: that have have faced criminal justice.
Speaker 2: Yeah wow, yeah, but but you know, in Atlanta, it's
Speaker 2: hard not to throw a rock and hit a scammer,
Speaker 2: especially if you're in those kind of bougie areas.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, what are you gonna do?
Speaker 4: She's a She's an easy target in a baddy for sure.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I mean, that's a generational batty.
Speaker 2: That's a that's a civil rights batty.
Speaker 4: They put you on TV for being is literally Jose Williams.
Speaker 3: She's a civil rights baddy.
Speaker 4: Okay, Yes, don't.
Speaker 3: Make them like that. No more that comes from March.
Speaker 4: You walk long enough, get nice and juice.
Speaker 3: I bet everybody was. Everybody's probably tea and think about it.
Speaker 2: They also had a little sweat going because that was
Speaker 2: when we really had to hit respectability politics.
Speaker 3: We got we marched in sneakers and ship. Now, but
Speaker 3: they were in suits the hot sun.
Speaker 4: If I ever see it, that's all. God damn. Your
Speaker 4: granddaddy must have marched you a girl ship. Your grandma
Speaker 4: must have been.
Speaker 3: Y'all was on Washington.
Speaker 1: As girl.
Speaker 3: Your grandparents was at the National Mall. Let me take
Speaker 3: you to the mall.
Speaker 2: Okay, So for a period of time he became an
Speaker 2: influencer for your third Leg, a supplement claiming to increase
Speaker 2: male girth.
Speaker 3: Let's go third Leg. That's that's it right there.
Speaker 4: First of all, focus exclusively on girth.
Speaker 3: Supposed to be on length.
Speaker 4: That's what I presume. Yeah, it's not. It's not so
Speaker 4: much of a leg, it's a stump. If it's we're
Speaker 4: just doing girth. But that's cool.
Speaker 3: I don't think there's a way to sell why dick.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fair. But maybe we've from from talking to women,
Speaker 4: maybe men have over emphasized the importance of length, and
Speaker 4: it really is more girth that that matters. And this
Speaker 4: brother gets that.
Speaker 3: He might get that because you know, some links can
Speaker 3: be stabby.
Speaker 4: You know that hasn't been my experience and that I
Speaker 4: have not experienced it, but I believe you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just saying this is for my own focus.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, God, I'm not stabbing. I can't imagine I am.
Speaker 4: But you're doing great.
Speaker 3: You got two kids, so I can't. I think you're
Speaker 3: too a great.
Speaker 4: So yeah, and this is made mass.
Speaker 3: Oh no, that is the most That's so cool, doctor Sebby.
Speaker 4: Black people love black people love sea maws.
Speaker 3: The splend it up, drink it.
Speaker 4: I love it's in there. I go, I go, that's
Speaker 4: the good.
Speaker 2: I don't know what it's doing, but give me that
Speaker 2: in some blue sparilla. I'm just gonna say it faster.
Speaker 3: So nobody will know. It's like with y'all, y'all talk
Speaker 3: about that blue ship.
Speaker 4: Look, if you put in a plant that I don't
Speaker 4: traditionally see, I believe you absolutely. It's a beautiful and most.
Speaker 2: Probably sold it so much. Also, before we move into
Speaker 2: the crimes, what is this packaging? It looks like a flask.
Speaker 4: It is a It is in fact a flask.
Speaker 2: So is are people like mixing the hindog with the
Speaker 2: third leg or something? Because you know, they started putting
Speaker 2: them sex honey packets like in food, you know, the
Speaker 2: gas station sex honey.
Speaker 4: Pack Ye, the honey packs.
Speaker 2: I saw on TikTok there are these like ratchet chefs,
Speaker 2: like there's some I think a lot of them are
Speaker 2: Atlanta too, Like they're.
Speaker 3: Like they do like chef sexual experiences.
Speaker 2: Where they're like feed the women foods, like like they'll
Speaker 2: get the mac and cheese tray and then like grab
Speaker 2: a scoop and like rub it all in the woman's mouth.
Speaker 4: On some mac and cheese.
Speaker 3: I just feel like some foods are not They're too
Speaker 3: heavy to be sensual.
Speaker 4: I don't want to be horny when I'm eating. I'd
Speaker 4: like to be horny before. Yeah, I wouldn't mind being
Speaker 4: horny after time.
Speaker 3: That's not about to say I need that jump in
Speaker 3: the pool after eat.
Speaker 4: Give me a second, big girl. Yeah, I'm trying to digest,
Speaker 4: and then we could do whatever you want. It's it's
Speaker 4: you're no, you're making a mistake. You're conflating two things
Speaker 4: that I enjoy.
Speaker 3: Yes, I think they're gonna confused.
Speaker 2: You know, eat, you do have those like sensory plugs.
Speaker 2: You're like, mm, you say when you eat and sometimes
Speaker 2: you say when you do you eat?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then not my experience, but I believe you.
Speaker 4: But if I remember inside and I go, m I
Speaker 4: unfortunately am not going to be able to stay there
Speaker 4: very much longer. I've learned to keep my UMBs to myself.
Speaker 4: But I don't know. I love.
Speaker 2: But they're putting the gas station honey like on wings
Speaker 2: and ship. Somebody was like, if I eat a wing
Speaker 2: and then I have a boner, I'm fighting everybody dress.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but one flat.
Speaker 4: This isn't even the flavor you ordered, right, you asked
Speaker 4: for You asked for regular ass buffalo wings, and here
Speaker 4: you are with honeywings.
Speaker 3: God, So the frauds.
Speaker 2: Jonathan has been to prison for fraud once before. He
Speaker 2: was convicted for scamming the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance SNAP between
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen and twenty fifteen.
Speaker 4: That's cool.
Speaker 2: I hate to see you scamming the program for the
Speaker 2: kids and the single mothers. Okay, this and the families
Speaker 2: who need it.
Speaker 4: But okay, but this is where.
Speaker 3: I come scam though.
Speaker 4: This is where I throw my hands up though, because
Speaker 4: I go, Okay, when you're scamming SNAP, are you in
Speaker 4: fact scamming those people and making the victim or you
Speaker 4: just scamming the government through a specific department. Yeah, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean? And so like that as long
Speaker 4: as that doesn't hurt the community at large. I go
Speaker 4: get your three hundred and ninety five thousand dollars worth
Speaker 4: of money. Bro.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I didn't mean to say it as if
Speaker 2: I was saying he was scamming the single mothers and stuff.
Speaker 2: I meant more so like he was scamming in a
Speaker 2: program that is definitely not aimed at his demogram, because
Speaker 2: there are a lot.
Speaker 3: Of people who are on SNAP.
Speaker 2: I have friends who have been on Snap or in
Speaker 2: college or wherever, and they be slugging them food stamps,
Speaker 2: you know, sometimes be like what you got for some cash,
Speaker 2: and it makes sense. This is the economy, right, That
Speaker 2: makes sense to me, and technically it is a scam,
Speaker 2: but not to me.
Speaker 4: They Yeah. I think I think everybody should should use
Speaker 4: the government to the maximum of your.
Speaker 3: Ability, because that's why we pay them.
Speaker 2: And I don't understand why people want to play high
Speaker 2: pockets with other people's money.
Speaker 3: Like, please get me out of your billionaire fantasy. You
Speaker 3: are broke.
Speaker 2: Please stop pretending and trying to protect these people who
Speaker 2: are not protecting you.
Speaker 3: They're hustling the fuck out of you.
Speaker 2: That's one of the things I hate the most, Like
Speaker 2: when people see people stealing, They're like, but that's why
Speaker 2: my stuff is costing more because those people are stealing
Speaker 2: from the store. And I'm like, that's not how this works, baby,
Speaker 2: I don't know who lied to you. They account for shrink,
Speaker 2: they account for theft. Okay, the stores are not hurting.
Speaker 2: They're actually throwing away fresh food and produce.
Speaker 4: Short of a co op. You you are, you are
Speaker 4: not in fact hurting the bottom line?
Speaker 2: Right If you go to a farmer's market and run
Speaker 2: off with the table of you know, strawberries, now you
Speaker 2: hurt in the farm, right, But in the.
Speaker 3: Grocery store, like, that's all be for real marga business.
Speaker 3: So if you see someone stealing, no you didn't like
Speaker 3: in the grocery store, especially leave alone.
Speaker 4: Yeah no, I'm certainly not cashier.
Speaker 3: Right over here.
Speaker 4: In her purse, seize him in her purse a crunch bar?
Speaker 3: And what do you do?
Speaker 2: How do you when you get home? Do you sleep
Speaker 2: better at night? Is that something to tell your spouse
Speaker 2: and your listless marriage?
Speaker 4: I do think. I do think maybe people just need
Speaker 4: something to talk about. Yeah, and maybe telling on somebody
Speaker 4: who stole is the best they can find. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe no more Batman movies unless we're in them,
Speaker 2: because Batman really made it so sexy to be a vigilante.
Speaker 3: He's just a rich boy guy terrorizing the community. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and every time he save it's something he tearing up
Speaker 3: the whole goddamn city to do it.
Speaker 4: It's like Catwoman was black this time, and she didn't
Speaker 4: seem to put a stop to him, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. She was really like, hey, come help me
Speaker 4: kill my guy then, and he was like, nah, I
Speaker 4: gotta focus, and she was like, then, fuck you.
Speaker 3: I can't buy fuck you.
Speaker 4: Then, Bruce, I.
Speaker 2: Just think about coming in Gotham City and I'm getting
Speaker 2: ready to go to work and I come outside and
Speaker 2: my car smashed up, smashed all the way flat.
Speaker 4: Because yeah, because Bruce, Because Bruce don't know how to
Speaker 4: control his temper.
Speaker 2: And he's not a good interrogator. What you're talking about,
Speaker 2: tell me what you know? And the hell out of him?
Speaker 3: Like, bro, they almost dead, you don't know what they know?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm Batman is my favorite. But if you spend
Speaker 4: even like eight minutes analyzing his like core story, it
Speaker 4: is not a charming one none at all. This is
Speaker 4: a billionaire child pussy out. The latter ass kid who
Speaker 4: lost his parents and never didn't have something to fall
Speaker 4: back on. He always was gonna be just fine, and
Speaker 4: instead he was like, I'm going to make hell for
Speaker 4: anybody who even looks like they're up to no good.
Speaker 4: And that's that's a weird interpretation of your.
Speaker 2: He said, I have trauma, and instead of therapy, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna make it the world's problem.
Speaker 4: Everybody's gonna deal with this.
Speaker 3: Everybody in this motherfucker city every damn night.
Speaker 4: I Am gonna be a grump on top of buildings.
Speaker 3: Ain't nobody get no sleep in Gottlin.
Speaker 5: A night.
Speaker 4: Cut it out loud. They don't show that part of Batman.
Speaker 4: He's just because some crimes. You just if it's a kid,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, fucking with a building that
Speaker 4: he wasn't spoiled you, Hi, get out and they'll get down.
Speaker 4: I bet Batman did a lot of that.
Speaker 3: Oh for sure. He was definitely gonna get off my line.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, Hie, I'll put you on the fucking face. Stop.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 2: At the time, Jonathan and his then wife Stephanie operated
Speaker 2: multiple convenience stores in Cobb County, Georgia. They used identity
Speaker 2: theft to obtain other people's Snap cards and cashing their
Speaker 2: benefits at the stores that they own.
Speaker 4: So, now see, I was rooting for you.
Speaker 2: I thought maybe going to the Snap office and being like, yes,
Speaker 2: me and my baby.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought you had like did you brought your
Speaker 3: kids to the scam?
Speaker 4: And this is my own stupidity. I thought maybe he
Speaker 4: had figured out how to hack into the system and
Speaker 4: was and was adding his name in a you know,
Speaker 4: in a database that being allowed for him to collect.
Speaker 3: Snap collecting more than he was supposed to.
Speaker 4: Yes, I did not think that he was going door
Speaker 4: to door robbing women and children of their Snap cards.
Speaker 2: Like imagine you go to get like some now later
Speaker 2: and a Coca Cola next thing, you know, you don't
Speaker 2: got no Snap left because they.
Speaker 3: Done ran it up.
Speaker 4: That's what a guy.
Speaker 3: So he was convicted in twenty seventeen and sentenced to
Speaker 3: nearly four years in prison along with supervised release and restitution. OK.
Speaker 2: So he had to pay the money back and when
Speaker 2: he got out, they said we got to watch your ass.
Speaker 4: Yeah a DuPont yeah dupe a time.
Speaker 2: So he said he's a changed man right after he
Speaker 2: got out. Jonathan assured his followers that prison changed him.
Speaker 2: He was rehabilitated, and he'd evolved and was no longer
Speaker 2: a fraudster. Also that maybe fraud was actually a gift
Speaker 2: from God.
Speaker 5: Run.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Also, I did the slant rhyme. I'm not giving that
Speaker 3: to the point.
Speaker 4: Oh, you don't think he did that on purpose?
Speaker 3: He said fraud and God. Maybe maybe How would.
Speaker 2: I say, yeah, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 4: I think that.
Speaker 3: I think all, yeah, it's all Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 4: I think he I think he did.
Speaker 2: You're right, he probably won. Also, don't forget to buy
Speaker 2: a hashtag free finesse t shirt. Okay, now look at
Speaker 2: this video that he created with AI.
Speaker 4: Oh that's not people say I changed. You damn right,
Speaker 4: you damn right? I changed.
Speaker 5: You think you think I did all this work? You
Speaker 5: think I put all these hours in. You think I
Speaker 5: went to prison. I had to had to reinvent myself
Speaker 5: to stay the same. Yes, I changed. Yes, this is
Speaker 5: this is the new me. That's what life is about.
Speaker 5: It's about evolving. You'll be a fool to stay the same.
Speaker 5: You'll be a fool to be the same person he
Speaker 5: was two three years ago, ten years ago. How dare
Speaker 5: motherfucker say that. It's like change, Yeah, I changed, But
Speaker 5: what did you expect? How did you expect me to
Speaker 5: be the same?
Speaker 4: About evolution feels like watching.
Speaker 5: It's about becoming a better person than I was yesterday.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So when you say yeah I changed, I'm gonna look
Speaker 5: at you and say, your motherfucking rite, let's go okay
Speaker 5: and ship and I changed for the best.
Speaker 4: Either you're gonna like yeah.
Speaker 3: He repeated the same thing like twelve times. How are
Speaker 3: you gonna tell us that you've changed?
Speaker 2: You're no longer doing fra, You're about authenticity, and you're
Speaker 2: gonna give us a fake video of you on a
Speaker 2: private jet that that is cool?
Speaker 4: Because he's saying, look, my followers believe I have private
Speaker 4: jet money. I'm not gonna let them down by letting
Speaker 4: them see me in not a private jet. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: speak to them in the location that I should be.
Speaker 4: And if that requires that.
Speaker 3: That's a bullpit. It was the cockpit of the private jet.
Speaker 4: Come on, And if us AI in order to produce that,
Speaker 4: so be it. Don't pay a dime for the work,
Speaker 4: do it? Don't. I don't want to pay him. I
Speaker 4: want this to be I want you to google how
Speaker 4: to do this and get it done on a free app,
Speaker 4: and it better look like dog shit. If it's gonna
Speaker 4: cost us money, I would rather do it dog shit
Speaker 4: than pay a dime.
Speaker 2: But he's changed, okay, Yeah, so now anyway, he's going
Speaker 2: back to prison for a new crime. This time it
Speaker 2: was a COVID one. He targeted California's unemployment insurance benefits
Speaker 2: program from twenty twenty to twenty twenty one, similar to
Speaker 2: a snap scheme. He used stolen identities to get millions
Speaker 2: of dollars in other people's unemployment insurance benefits.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: Oh, this is really killing me because I wish that
Speaker 2: his scams were scamming up or he could have been like,
Speaker 2: who was pretty Ricky?
Speaker 3: What was his name? Blue? Pretty Ricky who got them
Speaker 3: ppe lost and then he had to go to prison.
Speaker 3: He was like buying expensive cars with them. I think
Speaker 3: his name is like blue something like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, velvet, I don't know.
Speaker 2: They went on tour and it was very uncomfortable to
Speaker 2: see them trying to do their own sexual moves.
Speaker 3: Say something.
Speaker 4: I actually really I like it much better now. It's
Speaker 4: it's now my favorite thing I watched. There's a video
Speaker 4: that that like went semi viral of J Bug from
Speaker 4: B two K doing like his because like at the concert,
Speaker 4: they all had like a section, and his section he
Speaker 4: would like have a dance, like a big dance number
Speaker 4: with him and some boys. And and he's now chubby
Speaker 4: and he's a dad, and his body is very different
Speaker 4: than the jbook that we knew. But that boy still
Speaker 4: got it and he out there with that shirt off
Speaker 4: giving it to you honest, and I go, that's okay,
Speaker 4: Maybe I'll take my shirt off someday.
Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of dads of that concert
Speaker 2: probably went home feeling like we feel when we leave Beyonce,
Speaker 2: like sexy and in power.
Speaker 3: They're like, cat me get this belly out?
Speaker 4: Yeah all right, yeah, all right zone. Maybe maybe that's
Speaker 4: what a man's body's supposed to look like.
Speaker 2: Okay, positivity and nobody got time for abs, We got bills.
Speaker 4: To Yeah, I'm yelling that in my house and nobody
Speaker 4: understands the context.
Speaker 3: That's not the point, you know, Okay, it was inspiring.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So the program was supposed to provide temporary financial assistance
Speaker 2: to lawful workers who were unemployed during the COVID nineteen pandemic.
Speaker 2: As a part of the scheme, Jonathan used the stolen
Speaker 2: IDs of hundreds of people and filed claims in California,
Speaker 2: using a VPN to mask his action on online location.
Speaker 2: So he was stealing people's information using it in the VPN,
Speaker 2: which is like, it's not dark Web, but I think
Speaker 2: you can't.
Speaker 3: I'm not. I think it's like one of the portals
Speaker 3: to the dark Web if you try hard enough.
Speaker 4: There are so many reasons to have a VPN, and
Speaker 4: I A yeah, And there are so many reasons not
Speaker 4: to have a VP so many, and it is real
Speaker 4: up for grabs in a way that we all we
Speaker 4: all know the difference exactly, like A yeah, like.
Speaker 2: What you're doing, Okay, I'm just using it to watch
Speaker 2: HBO and Ireland in New Jersey, USA.
Speaker 4: I travel enough that I might need this to be
Speaker 4: able to log into certain.
Speaker 3: Accounts, exactly. But you over there, you're doing.
Speaker 4: You're doing weird stuff you in chat, yeah.
Speaker 2: Exactly, showing socials. I don't know about that. So he
Speaker 2: was doing this in California or masking his location. After
Speaker 2: the claims were approved, he and his con redirected the
Speaker 2: benefits debit cards to a North Georgia mailing address. So
Speaker 2: the benefits came on a little card, like a little
Speaker 2: Rush card with your coins, which I hate because the
Speaker 2: cards then allow for fees when you're like paying for
Speaker 2: things on the transaction fees.
Speaker 3: So now I'm paying a fee on the money that
Speaker 3: was all supposed to be for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: No, it feels it feels like such a clear scam
Speaker 4: that the government is running. Oh yes, that like we
Speaker 4: should have all risen up immediately and been like, but
Speaker 4: but they're charging you for making it even remotely more
Speaker 4: convenient than it previously was, right, Like the idea that
Speaker 4: it was like some version of like fucking monopoly money
Speaker 4: at one point is absurd, it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: But this when it was a check, like I had
Speaker 2: to collect unemployment once and it was a check in
Speaker 2: the mail, and the government still tried to play with me,
Speaker 2: tell like, hey, girl, I think we paid you too much.
Speaker 3: Like when I got a job, they were like, as
Speaker 3: soon as I got a job and I.
Speaker 2: Did the right thing got off unemployment, they were like, hey,
Speaker 2: I think we paid you too much when you were unemployed.
Speaker 2: Run some of that back and also make sure you
Speaker 2: pay your taxes on your unemployment. I'm like, does my
Speaker 2: taxes go to the unemployment? You'm not gotta pay taxes
Speaker 2: on the uneployment tax.
Speaker 4: On the tax, hence the card.
Speaker 3: It's crazy here, so ghetto here, everything costs so much,
Speaker 3: and new prices every day. Things that were free are
Speaker 3: not free anymore.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're not gonna they're not gonna stop changing them.
Speaker 4: They're never gonna be like, all right, finally the price
Speaker 4: of eggs, we did it. That's the correct price. You
Speaker 4: would think chickens aren't charging us more. They aren't, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, chicken not going Hey, hey, I
Speaker 4: laid a lot of eggs this month.
Speaker 3: Yesterday's coop.
Speaker 4: My cloaca is fucked up. I'm gonna need a break.
Speaker 4: We're up in the charge on these eggs. Come on,
Speaker 4: eighteen eggs.
Speaker 3: Fuck, I can't do it right, We used to twelve.
Speaker 3: We go to eighteen. No, that's that's wild.
Speaker 2: So yeah, he had transferred the money to these places
Speaker 2: in North Georgia, right, and then he went to withdraw
Speaker 2: the money from ATMs, mostly in the metro Atlanta area.
Speaker 2: Jonathan duped the federal government out of three point eight
Speaker 2: million dollars, of which he was able to withdraw about
Speaker 2: two million.
Speaker 4: Wow, pretty big numbers, right, And this.
Speaker 2: Is unemployment benefits during this time. So I'm thinking, like,
Speaker 2: I guess people have different jobs, and like obviously your
Speaker 2: unemployment depends on how much you were making at your
Speaker 2: you know job. So because I'm thinking the legwork of
Speaker 2: having to get all these debit cards and go to
Speaker 2: all these ATMs.
Speaker 3: Like, Bro, you was at the ATM all the time.
Speaker 3: It's given like girl Tyrese new YouTube.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, he was definitely stopping by with Girl Tyrese. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I but you know he treated it like a job.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: He said to myself, I don't want a real job,
Speaker 4: but I'm gonna work like I got.
Speaker 3: A real Scamming is a job, it's a profession.
Speaker 4: It's and it also hard work.
Speaker 3: Everyone thinks it's easy. I'm like, it's not.
Speaker 4: It requires a determination of focus on detail that I
Speaker 4: think a lot of us don't have in us, do
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like, you really have to
Speaker 4: be doing checks and balances to effectively scam people out
Speaker 4: of that amount of money.
Speaker 3: So, like, you know, I believe your own lies. You
Speaker 3: gotta not be don't sweat under pressure, Bro.
Speaker 4: You got to be able to look somebody in the
Speaker 4: face and assure them that you will not do harm
Speaker 4: to them, and then fully do harm to them. Yes,
Speaker 4: that's that's a tenacity.
Speaker 5: I do not have.
Speaker 2: And in his case, he was never looking anybody in
Speaker 2: the face. I could almost maybe respect that more. He
Speaker 2: was stealing this information from people and then using it.
Speaker 2: And these are vulnerable communities, people who were really on snap,
Speaker 2: people really needed their unemployment during a very dark and
Speaker 2: difficult time.
Speaker 4: But I bet, I bet there were some people that
Speaker 4: he connected with in order to get information from them
Speaker 4: in order to hit them. Like I bet this was
Speaker 4: all like sort of community related shit.
Speaker 3: Kids around with a credit cardswiber.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because if you make it just open Internet, you're
Speaker 4: gonna hit the wrong person too fast. Yeah, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, You're gonna hit somebody that's that's gonna
Speaker 4: notice knows how to handle this, knows how to correct
Speaker 4: whatever the problem is. You got to go to a
Speaker 4: community where you go, I know how to move with
Speaker 4: each and every one of you.
Speaker 2: And you saying that now, I'm thinking back to the
Speaker 2: first time he went to jail. With the convenience stores
Speaker 2: where people who would come into the store and pay
Speaker 2: with the snap then he would have their information.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you start using it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you got I think this is a
Speaker 4: hand to hand game. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So Jonathan pled guilty in January to conspiracy to commit
Speaker 2: mail fraud, wire fraud, and aggravated identity theft. He was
Speaker 2: sentenced to seven years in prison, followed by three years
Speaker 2: of supervised But who was supervising him on release?
Speaker 3: Go piss me off?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it speaks. It speaks to the power,
Speaker 4: the power fraud, the power of finess that he holds
Speaker 4: because he is like, it don't matter what you throw
Speaker 4: at me, I'm going to make this work. He did,
Speaker 4: and the boy got it. Man, he got the Jews
Speaker 4: shout out to him.
Speaker 3: You know what, I don't like that. You sound like
Speaker 3: a junior preacher. You're getting a little too good.
Speaker 4: I just recognized talent, you know what I mean. I'm
Speaker 4: like one of them dudes who hangs out at like
Speaker 4: high school basketball games just to see the future.
Speaker 3: I was too.
Speaker 2: It's like my dad, like in the winter when I
Speaker 2: would come home from college, we would go to the
Speaker 2: Innermow basketball games in the city because we went into Burbs.
Speaker 2: So when our schools would get too big, they would
Speaker 2: cut them in half. So, like in my neighborhood, there
Speaker 2: was an elementary school, a middle school, and a high school,
Speaker 2: and that was pretty much like all the neighborhoods around us,
Speaker 2: like you know, those like big subdivisions would have their
Speaker 2: own schools, and if the schools got too big, they
Speaker 2: would cut us in half because they didn't want to
Speaker 2: get big enough that they had to play the inner cities. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they didn't want to play the kids with struggle because.
Speaker 4: You know, you guys weren't going to win them games.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, we would never see a win ever. Again,
Speaker 2: Jamal and Malcolm would have been stomping on our head.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, John would have stole a snap.
Speaker 3: And so and so.
Speaker 4: You became then somebody who's like, well, we've created our
Speaker 4: own rivalry by splitting the school in half. I want
Speaker 4: to see that game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was all Yeah, there was a reason I
Speaker 3: brought that up, and now I can't remember.
Speaker 4: We were talking about Jonathan being that type of dude
Speaker 4: who's scouting his community for the victims.
Speaker 3: Yeah, still don't make sense why I said that. I like,
Speaker 3: y'all walking back, y'all figure it out. So he was
Speaker 3: sentenced to seven years in prison, followed by three years
Speaker 3: of supervisor release. Again. That's I think that's why I
Speaker 3: said so.
Speaker 2: Plus he had to pay restitution again, but the amount
Speaker 2: wasn't specified. You can still buy a rich and unemployed
Speaker 2: hoodie on eBay, So you know it's pissing me off
Speaker 2: about the city.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: First of all, why is it so loose? Like, why
Speaker 2: is it falling off the bone? Why does the hoodie
Speaker 2: have tendernism?
Speaker 3: It is not.
Speaker 4: It is clearly not a good hoodie at all. I
Speaker 4: think we can agree on that it looks like shit.
Speaker 4: It's poorly designed. It doesn't I'm looking.
Speaker 2: At this hoodie from inside the washing machine as it disintegrates, like, what.
Speaker 4: Do you mean? It doesn't even feel like they tried
Speaker 4: a second font. No, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Like where they were like they said they he said, yes,
Speaker 4: that looks good to me.
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, I.
Speaker 2: Could have had such a fancy bougie moment right now
Speaker 2: if I could remember that placeholder font that they always use.
Speaker 2: There's like a graphic designer placeholder font. It's like a
Speaker 2: comic saying definitely, everyone's screaming right now at their radio
Speaker 2: or where how radio?
Speaker 4: Yeah? The radios. All right, Yeah, well I don't think
Speaker 4: that's their focus with you.
Speaker 3: The hoodie is fourteen dollars though, so it hurts me.
Speaker 3: The hoodie really hurts me.
Speaker 4: There's no way he was charging fourteen dollars. He charged
Speaker 4: like one hundred and twenty.
Speaker 3: For this, and then they were, well, you know what,
Speaker 3: it's on eBay, so now they're rare.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. They knocked it down to fourteen
Speaker 4: dollars because they're just trying to love this thing.
Speaker 3: You're right, he was probably strong charging like a strong
Speaker 3: fifty two for this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's probably given like concert hoodie prices, yes, one
Speaker 2: d Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's rich and unemployed. This is this is a brand name.
Speaker 4: We're not We're not fucking around over here.
Speaker 3: How you're gonna have me looking broke and overworked?
Speaker 4: Like that's the brilliance of it. He's like, if you
Speaker 4: get skinny enough, you'll look good in this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't see you get your miset.
Speaker 4: You if you was out walking the beach, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, were doing push ups on a round,
Speaker 4: you wouldn't even need to wear this city at all.
Speaker 4: Go walk the beach, take your shirt off. Fuck this
Speaker 4: city fifty.
Speaker 3: Dollars, it's meant to disintegrate.
Speaker 4: Give me one hundred.
Speaker 3: That's how you know you've made it. That's how you
Speaker 3: know you're ready. Yeah, that reminds me one time, like
Speaker 3: when I was a kid.
Speaker 2: I think I scraped my leg or something and I
Speaker 2: was like really young, and me and my cousin were
Speaker 2: playing Eric. Y'all probably know we're very close, Yeah, and
Speaker 2: we didn't have any band aids, and he's like a
Speaker 2: little bit older than me, and so I was like
Speaker 2: really like hooting and hollering about this scrape, and he
Speaker 2: was like, don't.
Speaker 3: Worry, Like we got we got gaus in medicine. I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 2: I think he might have like folded up like a
Speaker 2: little piece of tissue and like put like tape on
Speaker 2: it or something because we wanted to keep playing it.
Speaker 2: I think our parents probably had bandage, but he wanted to.
Speaker 4: That's really he's gonna say.
Speaker 2: I put words in his mouth, but I remember he
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, and then when it's ready to heal,
Speaker 2: the band aid'll fall off.
Speaker 4: Oh no, that's not how that works.
Speaker 3: It falls off when it's like when it's ready.
Speaker 4: He's wrong, But that's sweet that he cared for you,
Speaker 4: that you as you were telling this story, my fear
Speaker 4: was that you were going to be like And then
Speaker 4: he came back with a tampon and wrapped that around
Speaker 4: my leg. So it was a sweeter It was a
Speaker 4: much sweeter story than I had imagined.
Speaker 3: Okay, in future, a Maxi pad would be better. Tamp
Speaker 3: you think a tampon string is Maxi.
Speaker 4: Pad was in my head and of course I said
Speaker 4: tampon instead a.
Speaker 3: G P.
Speaker 4: I'm a man and a fool, and you won't change
Speaker 4: me never.
Speaker 3: No, I've changed. I changed all the time. I changed
Speaker 3: every day. I've changed since we started this podcast. At
Speaker 3: this moment, scarce God, which brings us to the end.
Speaker 2: Of this podcast and my favorite moment, Scammer of the Week.
Speaker 2: I'm bringing back everything this episode. This is like an
Speaker 2: o G episode. It so Scammer of the Week. I
Speaker 2: really want to highlight, like before we show I show
Speaker 2: you anything, like, Yeah, I want to highlight this person
Speaker 2: because obviously we saw a historic win from the New
Speaker 2: York Knicks this year, the NBA Championship.
Speaker 4: Shout out to the Knicks.
Speaker 3: Yes, I was, I was living for the Knicks fever.
Speaker 2: I'm not a Knicks fan. But you know, I've seen
Speaker 2: the Mama Spike Lee means.
Speaker 3: I was happy for him. He's been down in the
Speaker 3: trenches for so long. I was glad to see my king.
Speaker 4: I really like that Knicks team. I think that it
Speaker 4: was like a heroic ass story. Yeah, I'm I'm happy
Speaker 4: at the idea of them winning. It is a bummer
Speaker 4: to watch Knicks fans be happy. I think they are
Speaker 4: the most unpleasant fans to see be joyous. But that
Speaker 4: is that is my burden to bear.
Speaker 3: It's true.
Speaker 4: It's very because I'm happy for the win enough that
Speaker 4: I go, fuck man, y'all are annoying, But here go ahead.
Speaker 3: You know what it is because they're so agro like,
Speaker 3: even if we're not rivals. What were they saying the
Speaker 3: would be like my mayors? What were they saying? It
Speaker 3: was like I'm doing my mayor. I don't even know everything,
Speaker 3: Like Nixon five.
Speaker 4: Nixon five was an exhausting time. I will say they've
Speaker 4: been more respectful in the wake of the victory than
Speaker 4: I anticipated. I think I thought this would get more annoying.
Speaker 4: But the season has not yet begun again, so we'll
Speaker 4: see how their behaviors sort of like calibrates. But boy,
Speaker 4: oh boy, did I watch a lot of videos of
Speaker 4: Nick's fans beating up dudes from San Antonio, and I go,
Speaker 4: y'all think y'all the good guys.
Speaker 3: In this video.
Speaker 4: You think y'all the heroes in this story? Whoop? This
Speaker 4: niggas asked shirt at a basketball.
Speaker 3: Game were going virals from being a fan of another team.
Speaker 4: That said, I'm from Chicago, man, I know you care.
Speaker 4: I'm in a lot of pain. You shouldn't listen to me.
Speaker 3: I ain't never gonna I'm a Cowboys fan from Texas.
Speaker 3: Yeah down, Basin, I was a young baby chap absolutely
Speaker 3: so speaking of Knicks fans being wonderful, Okay, here we go.
Speaker 3: So there is a.
Speaker 2: Knicks fan who got particularly excited after the nixt win
Speaker 2: as people did.
Speaker 3: New York. I was about to be like, do you
Speaker 3: I really believed you?
Speaker 2: So, you know, New York was like decorating things in
Speaker 2: the Knicks colors, and they have these very iconic nixed
Speaker 2: colored trash cans.
Speaker 4: Trash trash cans you absolutely want to get in your home.
Speaker 3: Which honestly, to meet New York.
Speaker 2: Do you not realize the irony of making a nixt
Speaker 2: colored trash can, Like I wis y'all saying we was
Speaker 2: trashed for so long, we identified with the.
Speaker 4: Trash we trashed, we trashed, but we also not trash, right,
Speaker 4: that is their argument, I guess.
Speaker 2: So obviously this woman wanted this trash as a souvenir
Speaker 2: after the wind. So here she is caught littering, literally
Speaker 2: dumping out the contents of this trash can in New
Speaker 2: York City during a New York New York Knicks celebration.
Speaker 4: Oh cool, yes, because in her head right she's doing this,
Speaker 4: she's singing to herself, what are they gonna do? Arrest
Speaker 4: me for taking a trash can? You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: She's like, there's no way anybody's gonna give a fuck
Speaker 4: I'm stealing a trash can.
Speaker 3: But also, like littering, you can get ticketed for littering.
Speaker 3: Like littering is you're not in New York, nobody's gonna notice.
Speaker 4: I'm seeing this level of mess on the ground before
Speaker 4: you isn't absurd, you know what?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 3: Because New York has so much litter, so many roaches,
Speaker 3: so many rats.
Speaker 2: At this point, I think I'm not even probably making
Speaker 2: affordable housing for the rets, Yes, this isn't.
Speaker 4: This isn't out of the realm of possibility to around
Speaker 4: the corner and be like, oh, somebody dumped out all
Speaker 4: the trash. Yeah, I mean I think I think in
Speaker 4: her head she was like, it's a perfect crime. Nobody will,
Speaker 4: this could not go wrong for me.
Speaker 2: So basically she gets caught here in four k right,
Speaker 2: she takes her a step further. Here she is on
Speaker 2: the train trash.
Speaker 4: She was so happy.
Speaker 2: Yes, and this is Angie Bias forty. She's forty years old.
Speaker 2: Let's take it to her big agent to account. To Angie,
Speaker 2: you are too grown to be stealing trash cans and
Speaker 2: littering like this. Okay, I know when you were a
Speaker 2: kid like you, you're an elder millennial, so I know
Speaker 2: you probably had the programs that we're like, don't litter.
Speaker 3: Who are our icons? They're always like stuffed in gruff McGruff,
Speaker 3: the crime down.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we had smoke, they're smoky, of course.
Speaker 3: Smoking, and then we had done there Lion.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the lion from Lion from Dare yep. Who else
Speaker 4: was telling us to do right? Darkning duck. He wanted
Speaker 4: us to do justice animals.
Speaker 3: And even though they were animals. Somehow you could tell
Speaker 3: they were male coded, like these are men telling us like, yeah,
Speaker 3: only you can prevent force.
Speaker 2: And it's also like Smoky, you are Smoky the bear.
Speaker 2: Are you telling us you smoking in the woods and
Speaker 2: we gotta prevent yo ass.
Speaker 4: I think I think, unfortunately, his name comes from a
Speaker 4: much more tragic origin story. I think that he is
Speaker 4: the child of a forest fire that killed his parents.
Speaker 4: I think he barely survived.
Speaker 3: So then he turned into Bain. He's the Batman of
Speaker 3: the forest.
Speaker 4: I think Smoky is the way that Batman learned to
Speaker 4: love his greatest fear. Bats were his greatest That is
Speaker 4: what's scarcely the most, this darkness, and he learns to
Speaker 4: embrace it. Therefore he becomes Batman. Smoky has inhaled so
Speaker 4: much black that they started calling him smoky. They were
Speaker 4: calling him Smoky at the hospital. They were like, how
Speaker 4: Smoky is he gonna survive? And then he does and
Speaker 4: he's like, I'll beat a forest fire's ass and anybody
Speaker 4: who starts one.
Speaker 3: I know that's right, You're right. He had powered himself.
Speaker 3: He took his shirt off, his name back, he took
Speaker 3: his power back. He said, I'm smoking.
Speaker 4: Now, he took his shirt off, he put a hat on.
Speaker 4: That's not anybody who does does that is a motherfucker
Speaker 4: who's been through something. And and he went he puts
Speaker 4: some good jeans on, and he'd let you know, don't start,
Speaker 4: no forest fire, don't start.
Speaker 3: Won't be there.
Speaker 4: I'll fuck you up. Yeah, there.
Speaker 3: Smoking in the neighborhoods like debot, Like you better put
Speaker 3: that out.
Speaker 4: Hey, what y'all gonna do about that fire?
Speaker 3: Right? Because only you and if you don't do something
Speaker 3: about that fire, only you don't get your ass.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I gotta shovel.
Speaker 3: He did have a shovel.
Speaker 4: What was he up to smoke? That's how you put
Speaker 4: out a forest fire. You gotta put dirt on it.
Speaker 4: I think okay, I think he was. He's saying, I
Speaker 4: am a I'm a forest fire man.
Speaker 3: Okay, slash Beyark is my understanding. I get you. I
Speaker 3: get you.
Speaker 4: I didn't have to make this serious, but I love
Speaker 4: it because.
Speaker 2: I'm honestly like now I'm thinking, I don't understand why
Speaker 2: the lion, the Dare lion was a lion.
Speaker 3: I feel like lions would definitely be doing drugs.
Speaker 4: Like it's got to give me.
Speaker 2: Like a corny ass animal like a penguin. I feel
Speaker 2: like pinguins are sober. Oh yeah, Like if a penguin
Speaker 2: told me not to do drugs, I would be like.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's fair. Penguin's penguin's mate for life.
Speaker 3: Yep, March of the Penguin. Yeah, they mar absolutely that
Speaker 3: the ladies go out to the club.
Speaker 4: It's a very it's a very almost like sober perspective
Speaker 4: on the there's a responsibility to their behavior. Meanwhile, male
Speaker 4: lions sleep or twenty hours of the day.
Speaker 3: The women go out and get the food.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're trifling ass niggas, And in that way, I
Speaker 4: think maybe they're more likely to like a lion.
Speaker 3: It's definitely got a forty ounce a lion has definitely
Speaker 3: you know, does you know?
Speaker 4: Yeah, they don't even fight like that for real. They
Speaker 4: just tricked a bunch of people into thinking that.
Speaker 2: They it's because they had big hair, uh huh yeah,
Speaker 2: and you go that I'm not gonna fight it. You
Speaker 2: know what a lion is like a sexy bum, like
Speaker 2: a fine ass bump. Like you were like, oh, they're
Speaker 2: so into me, Like we've only been dating a few
Speaker 2: weeks and they've already left their toothbrush at my place
Speaker 2: underwearing their clothes. It's like, no, that's a hobosexual. A
Speaker 2: lion is just a bum yep, and you come home
Speaker 2: the lion definitely smelled all your weed. Yeah, that didn't
Speaker 2: make no sense. That's why I tried drugs because I
Speaker 2: didn't believe that lion.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah it was lion.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, hey, let's go.
Speaker 3: Damn it. So Angela Bias.
Speaker 2: Was caught in four K right doing her crimes, and
Speaker 2: people figured out who she was because.
Speaker 3: The internet is gonna do is the thistle? Apparently she
Speaker 3: works for or worked for JP Morgan Chase.
Speaker 4: Fuck, that's one of them big ones and JP like,
Speaker 4: so if you work.
Speaker 2: For JP Morgan Chase. Yeah, these trash cans are sold
Speaker 2: online like as a souvenir.
Speaker 4: Oh, she didn't have to, She didn't have to. I
Speaker 4: guess in my mind I thought that these were like
Speaker 4: a one of the kind sort of items that you
Speaker 4: could never exist anywhere else. The idea that she could
Speaker 4: have just ordered this, you thought.
Speaker 3: In capitalism, something would be on the street that wasn't
Speaker 3: also being sold.
Speaker 4: That's fair, that's fair. What a fool I've been absolutely. Yeah, no,
Speaker 4: they'll find a way to sell it to.
Speaker 2: Us, to sell it to us, so she could have
Speaker 2: easily purchased it. And if you work for JP Morgan Chase,
Speaker 2: I would hope that they're paying you trash can money.
Speaker 2: I hope you got money for glad you know to
Speaker 2: put it in there. And I don't mean just like.
Speaker 3: Regular trash backs that rip.
Speaker 2: I want you to have them hefties, the ones that
Speaker 2: expand and you can put like the sharp objects and
Speaker 2: hangers in them.
Speaker 3: And it like expands.
Speaker 4: Lacy, if this is your way of announcing that you're
Speaker 4: running for Congress, I think it's a It's a fantastic
Speaker 4: campaign you're starting. I fully agree with you. I pray
Speaker 4: that everybody who works for a major corporation like JP
Speaker 4: Morgan can afford whatever trash can they want.
Speaker 2: Right, you should have fucking trash man. You should never
Speaker 2: seen a trash can you can't buy.
Speaker 4: Okay, there should never be a moment where you fear
Speaker 4: that you have to just dump the trash on the
Speaker 4: ground in a corner and then pick it up at
Speaker 4: the end. Like I want you to have trash can.
Speaker 3: I don't have to put it in your pocket, walk
Speaker 3: with it.
Speaker 2: Nothing you got trash can much so that was also
Speaker 2: embarrassing a part of this, right, So they reached out
Speaker 2: to JP Morgan because you know, the internet.
Speaker 3: Is going to do what it does.
Speaker 2: Of course, there's a lot of miserable people. And also
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that the people who slewthed on her
Speaker 2: are miserable, because what she did is absolutely wrong. New
Speaker 2: York City has enough problems. Baby, Now you got mom
Speaker 2: Donny over here picking up your trash. Though he got
Speaker 2: enough to do, you know, he was probably right.
Speaker 3: At the scene, like.
Speaker 4: That's fine, it's fine, I'll do it.
Speaker 2: When is the next landlord? Okay, I'm gonna be there
Speaker 2: at twenty. I just gotta get just trash real quick.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I have my own complicated feelings about the people who
Speaker 4: then do the snooping and telling. I don't know, I
Speaker 4: do too. I personally think that this form of public
Speaker 4: justice is not real. No, I think that, like, at
Speaker 4: the very least.
Speaker 2: Not always, and I think it sometimes it can be.
Speaker 2: I think, if you are in a position of power
Speaker 2: and you are being a menace to those around you,
Speaker 2: if we can get you about it here, we're probably
Speaker 2: saving people from the type of person that you are,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like that lady who tried
Speaker 2: to call the police, I'm the black man who was
Speaker 2: bird watching. It's like wherever you work, I know, everybody
Speaker 2: scatters from the water cooler when your bitch ass walks up. Okay,
Speaker 2: nobody wants to talk about Love Island with you. Nobody
Speaker 2: wants to talk about the hide away or nothing with you.
Speaker 3: Caring.
Speaker 2: I bet you're heating up fish every day and snitching
Speaker 2: off people for me at two minutes late, like we
Speaker 2: gotta get you up out of your employment. So sometimes
Speaker 2: I think it's right, but I do agree with you
Speaker 2: that I feel like sometimes the of it all is
Speaker 2: just an excuse for people to do righteous bullying.
Speaker 4: I think that. I think that whether they have that
Speaker 4: job or they don't have that job, it literally will
Speaker 4: never affect ninety nine point nine percent of our day
Speaker 4: to day.
Speaker 3: And I don't know Langston. People have lost their jobs
Speaker 3: and I've smiled.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've get my friends up, I've shared memes and gifts.
Speaker 3: I've laughed, And I.
Speaker 4: Think that joy, that joy is endorphins, right, Yeah, that
Speaker 4: feels it so much oxytope. It spikes are idyeah, that
Speaker 4: one It makes that go up, But I don't necessarily
Speaker 4: know that that automatically means that justice is served. I
Speaker 4: think that like we are only creating a different kind
Speaker 4: of socio muck with each other where like we are,
Speaker 4: we are willing to be violent with people's futures in
Speaker 4: a way that is inevitably going to come back on
Speaker 4: us in a different kind of way. And so like,
Speaker 4: I get it. I get that this like feels right,
Speaker 4: and I understand that in some ways it is. But
Speaker 4: I think we we would do better to leave that
Speaker 4: Internet alone. Yeah, I just think you're serving justice.
Speaker 1: It used to.
Speaker 2: I mean, in certain circumstances. It does feel good still
Speaker 2: to me looking people up. Absolutely not.
Speaker 3: I don't have enough time. But even if I did
Speaker 3: have enough time, I'm.
Speaker 2: Not hating to my full potential probably ever, because I
Speaker 2: like to use that energy towards more productive things.
Speaker 4: In the way that we talked about scams. It is
Speaker 4: a full time job.
Speaker 3: Yes, to be a hater. You have to wake up
Speaker 3: with hating your heart, like you have to wake up
Speaker 3: just fighting the air.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because the first phone call you make is to
Speaker 4: JP Morgan Chase, Do you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 4: it's I can't get them to pick up for my account.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: You're on hold, yeah, hold, Like you sat through hours
Speaker 4: of conversations.
Speaker 3: You don't want to get to that part you were
Speaker 3: for a while, the dropping the hook no more wow.
Speaker 4: The hr they had to bump you up to be
Speaker 4: able to make this a meaningful conversation took a day
Speaker 4: at the very least a day. Then having multi you
Speaker 4: had to have multiple conversations after to deal with whatever
Speaker 4: the firing of an entire employee is. So now I
Speaker 4: don't got that in me. I ain't got that spirit.
Speaker 2: I don't either, but I do enjoy it sometimes. But unfortunately,
Speaker 2: I feel like, because of the decline of the American
Speaker 2: educational system, the Internet is now not a safe people
Speaker 2: or a safe place for intelligent maneuvers like that, because
Speaker 2: stupid people gom on way too quickly, and then all
Speaker 2: of a sudden you're watching Love Island and then you're
Speaker 2: calling I, you know, like ice on somebody's family that
Speaker 2: you don't like, Like you've taken it way too far.
Speaker 4: And that's that is the type of that we all
Speaker 4: turn into Internet batman and everybody's Internet Batman, and that
Speaker 4: we got to get.
Speaker 3: Out of this economic downturn, because that's made everybody Internet Batman. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's the broke version of Batman.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Internet Batman is the nightmare. So in that
Speaker 4: way we have to be grateful for Bruce Wayne who had.
Speaker 3: Enough money never be nobody else on the Internet.
Speaker 4: No, he look. I bet you motherfuckers say nasty shit
Speaker 4: about Batman on the Internet. Yeah, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: Like in Gotham. I bet they be tweeting about him nasty.
Speaker 4: He'll never pull up to nobody's crib and punch him
Speaker 4: in the face.
Speaker 3: He, I mean, nobody into Mikula.
Speaker 4: Nah. No, he's a cool guy. I guess so, my bad,
Speaker 4: I said.
Speaker 3: Back Neighborhood Watch.
Speaker 2: But so when people continue to reach out to JP Morgan,
Speaker 2: the Post got a hold of them, and JP Morgan's
Speaker 2: response was the employee is no longer with the company.
Speaker 2: Bias cannot be reached by The Post for comments, and
Speaker 2: sources noted that she had attended the parade on her
Speaker 2: own personal capacity. She wasn't there for JP morgan chase,
Speaker 2: and under New York City law, theft of property valued
Speaker 2: under a thousand dollars it's typically charged as petty larceny
Speaker 2: a class A misdemeanor. Consequences are often minimal, usually a fine,
Speaker 2: which she did get, or you might get summons or
Speaker 2: community service for first time offenders. The littering that accompanied
Speaker 2: the theft could also bring additional appendencies. Like we talked about,
Speaker 2: my thing is is like, since you lost a good
Speaker 2: paying job at A, like you got a job that
Speaker 2: you could be the janitor at. JP Morgan liked what
Speaker 2: kind of clean and supplas.
Speaker 3: Okay, mister high pockets.
Speaker 4: I bet you got one. Another fob keys, Oh like
Speaker 4: the right hair.
Speaker 2: Okay, industrial strength cleaners Okay. So to lose your job
Speaker 2: over something petty is so small and silly. It's just
Speaker 2: I feel bad for her because I feel like that's
Speaker 2: an escalation.
Speaker 4: Here's here's the question. That's awesome girl.
Speaker 2: Also, I feel like I hope to some degree, JP
Speaker 2: Morgan also let her go out of the sheer embarrassment
Speaker 2: that their employees are getting.
Speaker 3: Paid so little that they're stealing trash cans off the street.
Speaker 4: These are bad optics for j I think JP Morgan
Speaker 4: was like she was that low, uh that broke benche
Speaker 4: don't represent our values.
Speaker 3: Here below fourteen. We don't go down there.
Speaker 4: Here's a big question I've been pondering this entire time.
Speaker 4: Do you think she kept the trash can?
Speaker 3: She actually had to return it?
Speaker 5: Wow?
Speaker 3: Yes, And I think the New York Sanitation Department posted
Speaker 3: like a little like we returned safely, like like you
Speaker 3: were being really petty about it. She didn't get to
Speaker 3: keep it.
Speaker 2: She lost her job, and she had to pay a fine,
Speaker 2: and she's publicly embarrassed and humiliated. Fuck, that's a triple whammy.
Speaker 4: Damn. They should have let her keep the trash can.
Speaker 3: Right, I'm sorry, you know, old dad hands.
Speaker 4: You know we took your whole life from you. You
Speaker 4: can have the trash can. That's a monkey you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. It's a monkey ball. You wished for
Speaker 4: a New York nick trash can and then you ended
Speaker 4: up losing everything over the trash can.
Speaker 3: But you get to keep keep the trash can.
Speaker 4: Now we're an evil society for that reason. Yeah, Like
Speaker 4: we we at the very least should let people have
Speaker 4: what they They've stole.
Speaker 2: Part of me in my heart feels like the person
Speaker 2: who got her fired and the person who reported her
Speaker 2: to the point where they were able to repoll the
Speaker 2: trash can are different people. I almost wonder if it
Speaker 2: was like the person saw the woman get fired and
Speaker 2: was like, we.
Speaker 3: Gotta take it further.
Speaker 4: Trash can.
Speaker 3: Already down, guys, it's gotta be another Knicks fan.
Speaker 4: It's like, no kick a you think that. You think
Speaker 4: the girl in the chair has another girl in the chair, Yes,
Speaker 4: that serves her, and so on and so forth, until
Speaker 4: they take everything from you. Yes, that makes sense, it
Speaker 4: really is. I mean, the internet is a bummer of
Speaker 4: a place if they don't like you. And I bet
Speaker 4: somebody retweeted the fuck out of her picture enough times
Speaker 4: that everybody took whatever they.
Speaker 2: Needed, and she saw people taking pictures of her, and
Speaker 2: she's smiling because she's happy. The next one, I think
Speaker 2: she thought she was probably being funny and kitch. She's like,
Speaker 2: look at me on the train with my trash can.
Speaker 2: So I think when she first started going viral, she
Speaker 2: was probably like showing all her friends and really excited
Speaker 2: because the reality. I keep telling y'all, if you have
Speaker 2: a real profession, please stop getting on the internet extra
Speaker 2: place of business and dancing and doing nonsense. Or if
Speaker 2: you're not at your place of business, I guess, don't
Speaker 2: embarrass them.
Speaker 3: Like this. Yeah, but you know this is what it
Speaker 3: can take from you.
Speaker 4: Yeah. No, I think I think she thought she had
Speaker 4: gotten away with it. I think she got home and
Speaker 4: she ate a big steak dinner.
Speaker 3: And then she threw it in the trash can.
Speaker 4: Yeah, when they repossessed it. There are a lot of
Speaker 4: honey chicken bones in there. She was in there getting
Speaker 4: horny and hungry and filling up her New York Knicks.
Speaker 4: Trash Can.
Speaker 3: Horny and trash Can.
Speaker 4: Is having a good fucking week until they got her
Speaker 4: ship backs.
Speaker 2: Question Who's worse the war criminals and our listener letters story.
Speaker 4: No, Jonathan DuPont, Okay.
Speaker 3: Trash Can Lady rank them?
Speaker 4: Fuck, I gotta rank them in order, Okay, from from
Speaker 4: worst to best. Either I'm gonna go backwards. I'm gonna say.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say that the one, the person who seems
Speaker 4: the most harmless to me in the in the sequence,
Speaker 4: the least harmless would be the the the gentleman from Cameroon.
Speaker 4: I don't understand foreign wars enough. I'm not gonna make
Speaker 4: a decision about who's right and who's wrong in this scenario.
Speaker 4: I'll do some research, and I have a different kind
Speaker 4: of conversation. But but I'm on drugs and I'm not
Speaker 4: ready to make those kinds of political geopol you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, geopolitical decisions.
Speaker 3: To put him last for safety? Why would you put
Speaker 3: him first for safety?
Speaker 4: Because to me, he sounds like a complicated guy. A
Speaker 4: complicated guy I don't understand. I say to myself, well,
Speaker 4: that guy, he's got a lot going on. I'd like
Speaker 4: to learn more about him.
Speaker 3: Definitely has a loving family.
Speaker 4: Know that he's got a wife and who cares, and
Speaker 4: a mother in law who's tolerating it. Okay, she's in
Speaker 4: the mix, you know what I mean. I go, she
Speaker 4: didn't turn her back on them, so maybe maybe he's okay.
Speaker 3: She makes trips to the bank.
Speaker 4: He seems like a pretty good guy. To me? Is
Speaker 4: where I stand on that number two? Number two? Number two?
Speaker 3: I go?
Speaker 4: I go, probably the French creole gentleman. I think that
Speaker 4: I think that he is at least motivating a community.
Speaker 4: I think he's inspiring a lot of people to it
Speaker 4: to the beach.
Speaker 3: I will do a push up on a rock.
Speaker 4: I think I think some niggas need help believing in themselves.
Speaker 3: You're not wrong, and you know what even low vibrational
Speaker 3: niggas believing in themselves.
Speaker 4: I got the people. I listen to Terrence Howard Tyrese,
Speaker 4: the what and the note. But but but some people
Speaker 4: need what what that brother is putting out. So I
Speaker 4: say to myself, he probably made a few dudes a
Speaker 4: little bit better and that adds a net positive to
Speaker 4: the world.
Speaker 3: Damn.
Speaker 4: And the greatest villain in my mind is a person
Speaker 4: who who in the in in a already complicated state
Speaker 4: of the world, who knows the harm that that that
Speaker 4: pollution does to a planet that is already suffering. We
Speaker 4: are literally killing ourselves. Water is turning brown because these
Speaker 4: motherfuckers are building data centers. We need to come together
Speaker 4: more than ever to agree that that we keep this thing,
Speaker 4: this planet, this safe. And for you to dump trash
Speaker 4: on the ground because of a trash can you want
Speaker 4: to keep knowing that that's wrong, knowing that somebody has
Speaker 4: to clean this up. You're a vile motherfucker. Go to hell. Damn.
Speaker 3: I don't know. You've made some very convincing arguments, especially
Speaker 3: because you did this in mom donnie'stand you know how
Speaker 3: hard that man work. Yeah, okay, why would you do that?
Speaker 3: And why couldn't you take that trash can and find
Speaker 3: another trash can and shake the trash into that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, mom, Donnie is swimming in his suit because he
Speaker 4: doesn't have enough time to change.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is showers. You see when he put his
Speaker 3: knickt jersey, it was over the suit.
Speaker 4: He ain't got time to change. So bro, don't waste
Speaker 4: his time.
Speaker 3: No waste his time.
Speaker 4: Guy is really trying to work.
Speaker 3: He is by the time he gets out of offices
Speaker 3: as gonna be so fat.
Speaker 4: Yes, he's really and his grandchildren were. This is a
Speaker 4: new generation of Kardashians that we are ushering in. Yes,
Speaker 4: of just inexplicably thick girls. Science could explain it. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I love that.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm gonna stand. I'm gonna stand with
Speaker 2: your ranking. You've convinced me. I'm absolutely convinced. And links
Speaker 2: and thank you for some Thanks so much for being
Speaker 2: on the show.
Speaker 4: What a pleasure.
Speaker 2: It's always good time seeing you. You look great, you
Speaker 2: look moisturized. Even though before we started recording, I asked
Speaker 2: you if I was asking you refuse to answer like
Speaker 2: a betrayal.
Speaker 4: It's not it's not you asked you. You have to
Speaker 4: tell the whole.
Speaker 3: Story because Okay, so I asked producer Joe, but we
Speaker 3: were in different lighting and I was trying to check
Speaker 3: again when we got in here, and you were like,
Speaker 3: you refuse.
Speaker 4: I outright refused. I spit on the floor. And I
Speaker 4: shouldn't act like that. I shouldn't act like that. I agree,
Speaker 4: But but I said to myself, no, I and I
Speaker 4: said it to you. You all have to learn to
Speaker 4: trust each other.
Speaker 3: I feel like you were instag he was trying to
Speaker 3: start a fight. I'm gonna we do trust each other.
Speaker 3: Why can't I ask for another opinion, a different life?
Speaker 4: Then, Diesel has taught us anything. This ship gotta be
Speaker 4: about family. It does you understand, y'all gotta become a
Speaker 4: family if this is gonna work.
Speaker 3: You're in the studio now, Lacey Fast, fraud, whatever, whatever.
Speaker 4: That shit is. You gotta leave that in the past.
Speaker 3: You in, you in the studio.
Speaker 4: You gotta take this seriously. Y'all gotta come together.
Speaker 3: Yes please.
Speaker 4: Now, I'm sorry I had to talk to you guys
Speaker 4: like this. I'm meeting most of you for the first time.
Speaker 4: That's no way to speak to strangers. But I mean
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Come together. You're family.
Speaker 3: Now, if Langston opens a convenience store, okay, run he's
Speaker 3: doing too much community.
Speaker 4: Or standing outside doing this?
Speaker 3: No, that's.
Speaker 4: Out sign language.
Speaker 1: Up.
Speaker 3: All right, Well, where would you like to be found
Speaker 3: and where people can catch you things you got coming out?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can find me at Langston Herman on all
Speaker 4: social media platforms. You can follow me there and listen
Speaker 4: to my podcast with David Bori called my Mama told me.
Speaker 4: It's it's it's about black conspiracy theories, but mostly it's
Speaker 4: us just talking shit and and it's a it's a
Speaker 4: good time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, I love that.
Speaker 2: And you guys can find me at d I v
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Speaker 3: At scam Gottess Pod. Get on there, and even if.
Speaker 2: You're watching, wherever you weave a comment, okay, do something
Speaker 2: kind for a black woman today, can on an Apple
Speaker 2: podcast get five stars and instead of being a hater
Speaker 2: who's clocking a crunch bar at the grocery store, instead
Speaker 2: of hating on a mother who might be putting a
Speaker 2: little similar in a backpack.
Speaker 4: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: You could be uplifting me and telling your friends about
Speaker 2: that at dinner parties. Okay, think about okay, okay, especially
Speaker 2: especially all my white people out there with one black
Speaker 2: friend that you'd like to talk to racism about, Okay,
Speaker 2: you only talk to them about it.
Speaker 3: Keisha World today.
Speaker 4: Right, you know she you know she understands where you're
Speaker 4: coming from.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she already knows because she's Keisha.
Speaker 4: You need to go talk to Cliff, okay and let
Speaker 4: him know what's going That's a different black person. You're
Speaker 4: not used to talking, right, And I.
Speaker 3: Know Cliffs, I got an agent him. Cliff, you gotta
Speaker 3: go talk to Chatsworth with you.
Speaker 4: I'm hearing you.
Speaker 3: Let them know what's going on, because we know as
Speaker 3: black people, you can't be like, damn, I know you're black, right,
Speaker 3: do you know what's happening to black people?
Speaker 4: Yes, happen to me.
Speaker 3: I'm one of the ILK.
Speaker 2: So if you want to go and brag to your
Speaker 2: that one black friend, you can tell her that you
Speaker 2: gave us five stars today.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that you made a black woman's day.
Speaker 4: That's that's that would be a nice thing, act, right.
Speaker 3: Right, do that? All right, thank you so much being
Speaker 3: here Langston in congregation. I want you to get out
Speaker 3: there and remember f A R.
Speaker 4: A U yeah D. Finally returning rich rich yeh, finally.
Speaker 3: Rich, Finally rich after.
Speaker 4: No it was undeniable, after you surpent, after hold.
Speaker 3: On y'all, after unbelievable, unbelievable, Finally rich after unbelievable deception, determination, determination,
Speaker 3: Yeah after and still I rise, and still I scam.
Speaker 4: Yeah okay, and finally rich after underwearing draws.
Speaker 3: That's the one.
Speaker 1: Come robbery and fries you gutties