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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio, expectations sometimes ruins everything.

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Speaker 1: Hear me out, Like, if you've ever gone to the

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Speaker 2: Was it really that the movie was even any different?

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Speaker 2: Or did the sales pitch just get over the top.

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Speaker 2: And I'm asking that because that's exactly what's happening right

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Speaker 3: The Lakers and Bronnie.

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Speaker 2: Are we really in a world where Bronni going in

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Speaker 2: and having an okay summer league game deserves to be

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Speaker 2: the top headline everywhere. Yeah, but that's a problem. You

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Speaker 4: Tie Biden should be. We're here at Fox Sports Radio today,

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Speaker 4: like we're talking about what Jason was just saying about

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Speaker 4: the brownie situation in the Summer League, and how you know,

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Speaker 4: everybody's making this the conversation piece. This is the number

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Speaker 4: one topic that we can have right now to talk about,

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Speaker 4: it seems, which is it was really crazy. So here

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Speaker 4: we are, We're we're here talking about it. And I

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Speaker 4: will say, first off, watching a little bit of that

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Speaker 4: but obviously everybody saw the clips, and Ronnie had a few,

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Speaker 4: you know, exciting plays, a few plays that you would

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Speaker 4: say would make him you know, seems like he belongs

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Speaker 4: in the Summer League and have a chance to compete

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Speaker 4: with those guys and make some plays. But there's also

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Speaker 4: a lot not to like about what he did yesterday.

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Speaker 4: And I think, as you know, as America gets to

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Speaker 4: Bronnie James, I think it would be more base off

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Speaker 4: of the negativity of it. And I think that's really

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Speaker 4: the problem for us as Americans, right we sit back

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Speaker 4: and try to nitpick all the negative things and not

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Speaker 4: the positive. So I'm gonna take an actual different approach here.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna take the positive of what I saw yesterday.

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Speaker 4: And like I said, there's some things about his game

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Speaker 4: that you know, he's athletic, he can move. He had

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Speaker 4: a layup, make a jump shot, you know, getting to

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Speaker 4: I think he'll get better with that with the reps.

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Speaker 4: And so that's where we are right now with him

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Speaker 4: and what I saw. It was one of those situations

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Speaker 4: what the situation was because of the dynamics of it all.

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Speaker 4: But you know, here we are now, we're sitting in

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Speaker 4: the place where he went two for nine from the field.

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Speaker 4: You know, didn't have a stellar game, But we're not

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Speaker 4: keep this thing going a little bit. But Chris, let's

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Speaker 4: talk about what you thought about what happened in that

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Speaker 5: Well, I think MONSI did you end up watching it?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I caught a few minutes of it, and I

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Speaker 6: say that Bronnie James was probably incredibly nervous in his

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Speaker 6: There is no way that that guy was not profusely

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Speaker 6: know what, there were moments that he looked like, Okay,

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Speaker 4: And you know, go ahead, Chris, I was gonna say it.

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Speaker 5: It genuinely doesn't matter how he performed in that game,

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Speaker 5: It became about the narrative and not the person on

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Speaker 5: you're talking about a fifty fifth pick trying to guard them.

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Speaker 5: Right now, he just has to play summer League. He

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Speaker 4: Right, And the bigger issue for me is it's not

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Speaker 7: It wouldn't be conversation, just like Jason Fitz started.

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Speaker 6: And I don't I think majority of the people are

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Speaker 6: I don't think it's that the opinion is we want

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Speaker 6: how things went about making him a Laker, and people

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Speaker 6: So that that is the positive thing in all of this,

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Speaker 7: I've never watched a Summer League game until yesterday on ESPN,

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Speaker 4: It's it.

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Speaker 5: We're nobody's rooting for Branny to fail. We're they're rooting

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Speaker 5: And that's again comes back to my point too. It's

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Speaker 5: He's just a vehicle to get us to point a

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Speaker 4: And the other part, the other part of that piece

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Speaker 4: So this is another extension of that for me.

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Speaker 6: But see that narrative, It's like, Okay, guys, why are

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Speaker 6: Embrace it, Embrace the whole thing. Stop lying and just

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Speaker 6: It's just he had such a small sample size in college,

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Speaker 6: don't think he was I think people had a higher expectation,

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Speaker 3: To me, that was reality.

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Speaker 6: And the nerves again, I don't know how I would

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Speaker 6: I guys, that's nerve wrecking a lot.

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Speaker 5: He played exactly like expect a fifty fifth pick to

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Speaker 4: And this goes back to the conversation that had last

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Speaker 4: He's enjoying vacation right now, Nan, Team. Yeah, but we

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Speaker 4: were talking about this it was. You know, we you

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Speaker 4: you know, Jason's back in. Everybody, I think he's back in.

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Speaker 4: We dropped him for a bit. Jason, are you in?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Look, you start saying anything bad about Brownie and the

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Speaker 2: Lakers gonna cut you off.

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Speaker 3: They don't want they don't want to smoke on the radio. Carrie.

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Speaker 3: It's good to hang out with you.

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Speaker 2: By the way, thanks for your patience. Of course, it's

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Speaker 2: all worked out. And look, as we've been working out technology.

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Speaker 4: I think he's dropped the game.

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Speaker 3: Well, here we are.

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Speaker 6: Jason stops saying bad things about Bronnie and the Lakers,

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Speaker 6: so that this stops happening to you. Oh, Jason. Uh,

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Speaker 6: I feel that this what I fear most with this topic.

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Speaker 6: And I feel like I'm guessing here that Jason was

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Speaker 6: gonna go in this direction. How long do we keep

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Speaker 6: Brownie as a top topic of conversation when nothing is

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Speaker 6: I think this is a work in progress, right, So

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Speaker 6: it's like, are we gonna keep having the same conversation

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Speaker 4: Yeah? And this is what I was saying last week.

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Speaker 7: Stop it, exactly.

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Speaker 6: Stop. The Lakers should have been like, embrace it, just

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Speaker 4: You ain't got a lie to kick it. We already

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Speaker 6: You ain't got a liight to we here now just

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Speaker 6: Let's let's talk about what happens from this, you know,

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Speaker 7: But you're right carry, why are the.

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Speaker 6: So it seems like they they're they're kind of figuring

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Speaker 6: Bronnie has brought to game one of the Lakers Summer League,

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Speaker 4: Lebron James taking three million below the max a big

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Speaker 3: Carrie.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna see like so far, just gonna be honest, Like,

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Speaker 2: you know, I spent a lot of my life on

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Speaker 2: And the funny thing is we would be on these

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Speaker 2: come into Man, you just got a gremlin And I'm like, well,

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Speaker 2: what does that mean? Like I feel like right now

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Speaker 2: I'm being chased by gremlins. I can't give anything water.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what's happening. It's it's a little carry.

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Speaker 7: I'm a little agremlin. As a gremlin is a gremlin.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 5: Someone who's worked as a broadcast engineer, Like, there's no

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Speaker 2: Oh that's the but see, I'm a type a like

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Speaker 2: I'm big on I can handle anything as long as

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Speaker 2: love working with athletes. Athletes the same way, right, Carrie,

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Speaker 2: Like you want you don't want a coach to just

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Speaker 2: want them to tell you the why, the how, and

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: So I don't handle the just because that's not an

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Speaker 5: As a as a former congressman would say, the Internet

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Speaker 4: There it is. I don't know what that means either, Chris,

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm with you, Jason. I think it is

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Speaker 4: But I'm glad to have you back. And now we're

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Speaker 4: we're rolling for We don't we don't talk about the paths.

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Speaker 4: We move forward. Baby, let's go. Let's get it going.

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Speaker 3: Look at that? Look at that? Well, all right, so

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Speaker 3: let's talk about moving forward.

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Speaker 2: Because we were just talking about Bronni a little bit

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Speaker 2: but this is gonna save luxury tax. It gives the

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Speaker 2: think it's kind of stunning because when I think great franchises,

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Speaker 2: I don't usually think having to save a little bit

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Speaker 2: But also Carrie for what, like, what's going to come

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Speaker 4: Yeah, at this point nothing, but I think I think

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Speaker 4: you know, with Lebron, and we talk about it, talk

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Speaker 4: non signees happened. Right, So you come into this thing

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Speaker 4: You leak a story saying Lebron's willing to take less

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Speaker 4: It's so it's such a crazy, crazy dynamic because it's

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Speaker 2: Doesn't it mean something that Paul George elected not to

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Speaker 2: Usually we as a society love to think of the

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Speaker 3: That's just wearing that jersey means something.

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Speaker 2: But haven't we seen three very clear cut answers right

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Speaker 4: Once you step into that arena and play with him,

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Speaker 4: you don't stand anything the game. If you win, it's great,

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Speaker 4: and it would be a great story, but the story

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Speaker 4: if you fail, you're gonna be the one that's going

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Speaker 4: if you go to that situation and fail, the blame

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Speaker 3: So I can't stand it.

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Speaker 2: Like I refuse to live in a world where Trent

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Speaker 2: Dilfer is a better quarterback than Damn all though it's

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Speaker 3: To this carry.

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Speaker 2: It's just at this point, I'm not gonna look at

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Speaker 3: Hasn't want us do right. But that's what we do

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Speaker 2: So if you're Paul George and man and you're looking

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 3: Is that a championship caliber roster?

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Speaker 2: I think part of the problem here is that the

439
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Speaker 2: Lakers aren't built in the way that any of the

440
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Speaker 2: guys we've talked about would have made them a clear

441
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Speaker 2: cut championship caliber roster. So now you're gonna get all

442
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Speaker 2: the blame, you're not gonna get any of the credit,

443
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Speaker 2: and by the way, you are gonna have a great

444
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Speaker 2: chance at the championship where you might somewhere else like

445
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Speaker 2: that has to be a factor in this too.

446
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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, for sure, and I think yeah, that team

447
00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,360
Speaker 4: And the crazy part about the Lakers is they have

448
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Speaker 4: a collection of guys that you would feel they would

449
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Speaker 4: be able to compete and be one of those guys

450
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Speaker 4: that could win it. But the dynamic of you know,

451
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Speaker 4: most guys when they play with Broun, if you're young,

452
00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,880
Speaker 4: you're looking up to Braun as the goat, right, You're

453
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Speaker 4: looking at this guy that's bigger than life, larger than life,

454
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Speaker 4: and you put yourself in a position where you have

455
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Speaker 4: so much pressure on yourself to perform because you don't

456
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Speaker 4: want to let that guy down. When it's not about

457
00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,480
Speaker 4: letting that guy down, it's about letting the team down.

458
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Speaker 4: I think there's a line that doesn't get drawn in

459
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Speaker 4: the sand when it comes when it comes to the two.

460
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Speaker 4: I don't think a lot of guys can differentiate between

461
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Speaker 4: what that means and so being in that fire, being

462
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Speaker 4: in the turmoil of having to be that group of

463
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Speaker 4: guys or the other guys associated with that team outside

464
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Speaker 4: of Lebron to get him another ring. You can hear

465
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,160
Speaker 4: those guys saying that in certain situations like we want

466
00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,119
Speaker 4: to do this for him, but it's not about doing

467
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:07,959
Speaker 4: it for him. This guy is still playing. He's not

468
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,520
Speaker 4: on this swan song. He's trying to win another one too.

469
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Speaker 4: So trying to break up what that means as a competitor,

470
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Speaker 4: as a teammate and understanding that you have to go

471
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Speaker 4: out and be you and not play kate to him.

472
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Speaker 4: Be you, be aggressive, do what you do to make

473
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Speaker 4: this team win. And we don't see that with guys

474
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Speaker 4: that play with Lebron.

475
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Speaker 3: Well.

476
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Speaker 2: Also, you got to remember the NBA is so different

477
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Speaker 2: than the NFL, Like NFL free agency. There are plenty

478
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Speaker 2: of guys that play in the league that will tell you, hey,

479
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,040
Speaker 2: you know what it come down to. It came down

480
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Speaker 2: to money, Like I'm gonna go where I get paid,

481
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Speaker 2: and I'm never gonna fault somebody from being like, hey,

482
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Speaker 2: I'm looking out for my business.

483
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Speaker 3: I'm feeding my family for sure.

484
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Speaker 2: The NBA, the way the contracts are structured, the pay

485
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Speaker 2: difference really isn't there. So now if you're looking at

486
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Speaker 2: it and saying, well, I'm gonna make basically the same

487
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Speaker 2: money wherever I go play, yeah, now it becomes where

488
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Speaker 2: am I playing for a coach that I like and

489
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Speaker 2: in the city that I like, and with buddies that

490
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Speaker 2: I like playing with like, I think it's more of

491
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Speaker 2: a factor in the NBA than it is in other

492
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Speaker 2: sports because of the way contracts are structure.

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Speaker 4: One hundred percent, Yes, for sure. I mean in the NFL, yeah,

494
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 4: you're trying to get every dollar you can. It's not guaranteed,

495
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,359
Speaker 4: I mean, and what is guaranteed is is gonna be

496
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,679
Speaker 4: way less than what that contract reads and says to

497
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Speaker 4: the world. So definitely about getting your money, and especially

498
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Speaker 4: early on, right. So if you're a guy that's going

499
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Speaker 4: into getting your first your first big win and you're

500
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Speaker 4: trying to make sure you're taking care for for a

501
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Speaker 4: very long time, you're gonna go take that money. And

502
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 4: so a lot of times you'll see players go to

503
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Speaker 4: teams and you're just kind of scratching your head and

504
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 4: saying why, But yeah, it's it's the dollar. Let me

505
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,159
Speaker 4: go get that dollar. And in the NBA, a lot

506
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 4: of those guys have already been paid twice, two, three times.

507
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Speaker 4: I mean, Paul George has been paid, Klay Thompson has

508
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Speaker 4: been paid, who we will talk about in a bit,

509
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Speaker 4: and so you go to a situation, like you said,

510
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Speaker 4: where you like the organization, you feel like you can grow,

511
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Speaker 4: you do want to still have a chance to win

512
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Speaker 4: in the NBA, and they both went to like Paul

513
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Speaker 4: George Clay Thompson, both went to situations where they can win,

514
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Speaker 4: but also, like you said, playing with people that you

515
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Speaker 4: want to play with, and you like.

516
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Speaker 2: Yeah, life is different when you got hundreds of millions

517
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Speaker 2: of dollars in the bank. Yes, you're still playing the

518
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 2: game that you love. And you're like, hey, I'll never

519
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 2: forget The first time I ever interviewed Klays Campbell and

520
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Speaker 2: he had just signed with the Jacks, and I was

521
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,440
Speaker 2: so excited. I had this whole list of questions about

522
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 2: like what he what he saw on the South and

523
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Speaker 2: why he wanted to go there. And the first thing

524
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Speaker 2: I asked him I was like, so why you know

525
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 2: why Jacksonville? And he's like, you kidding, Like we saw

526
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Speaker 2: the offer with my agent. We're like, yep, Jacksonville. I'm like,

527
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Speaker 2: oh man, the rest of these questions mean nothing, right,

528
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Speaker 2: So I think we just have to remember that each

529
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Speaker 2: one of them is different.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned Clay.

531
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Speaker 2: Let's get into this because obviously you are a MAVs fan.

532
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Speaker 2: Has the has the dynamic in the West change. I

533
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Speaker 2: want to get your thoughts on him. But before we

534
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Speaker 2: do that, Manzi's gonna get us caught up on all

535
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Speaker 2: of the latest, greatest and sports news right now.

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Speaker 6: Monz Hi, guys, Jason, you're here, glad to hear you.

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Speaker 3: I just can't wait for you to say Uruguay.

538
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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna be honest, like it sounds dumb when

539
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Speaker 2: I say, it, sounds awesome.

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Speaker 6: When you do, yeah, because it's not your guys, all

541
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Speaker 6: of you guys, it's not your It's.

542
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Speaker 4: Is it?

543
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Speaker 3: Yes? Oh wow?

544
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Speaker 4: Yeah?

545
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Speaker 6: But you know, naturally in America you say Uruguay, but

546
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 6: it's nuts Uruguay. Urdaguay did knock off Brazil last night

547
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Speaker 6: in the Copa America quarterfinals in penalty kicks. Brazil definitely

548
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 6: not expecting that one. Also, I don't think Lewis Hamilton

549
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Speaker 6: was expecting to win the Formula One auto racing in

550
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Speaker 6: the British Grand Prix, because Max Verstappen usually wins all

551
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Speaker 6: of them. No, Lewis Hamilton beat him today by one

552
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Speaker 6: point four seconds, his ninth win of the British Grand Prix.

553
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 6: At Wimbledon, men's third seed Colos Outcras won his fourth

554
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Speaker 6: round match in four sets. On the women's side, though

555
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Speaker 6: American and twelve seed Madison Keys she had to retire

556
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Speaker 6: from her fourth round match due to a leg injury.

557
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 6: Coming up in about an hour, two seed Cocoa Golf

558
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Speaker 6: is going to begin her fourth round match. And in

559
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Speaker 6: the NBA, in case you missed it, six time All

560
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Speaker 6: Star DeMar Derozen signing a three year, seventy six million

561
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Speaker 6: dollars deal with the Sacramento Kings via a three team

562
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Speaker 6: sign and trade. Chris Duarte is going to head to

563
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Speaker 6: the Bulls. Harrison Barnes is going to head to the

564
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Speaker 6: San Antonio Spurs. And last thing I'll tell you here

565
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Speaker 6: because baseball hasn't start for like an hour, guys, A

566
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Speaker 6: ricky card Patrick Mahomes rookie cart sells at an auction

567
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Speaker 6: for one hundred and seventy three thousand dollars. The rookie

568
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Speaker 6: cart is one of ten. It is a grade of

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Speaker 6: nearly perfect nine. Apparently it has his signature a piece

570
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Speaker 6: of a jersey. But one hundred and seventy three thousand

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Speaker 6: dollars for a rookie card.

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Speaker 4: They beat me by by one hundred and seventy two cars.

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Speaker 3: Yeah I put I put one thousand.

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Speaker 4: Dollars beer in. Yeah, yeah, yeah it was I thought

575
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Speaker 4: it was a big one.

576
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Speaker 6: So close, so close, Carrie, next time, but a little

577
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Speaker 6: bit and you may get ahead.

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Speaker 7: It back to you guys.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Mansi.

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Speaker 2: He's carry road on Jason Fitz Fox Sports Radio, tire

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Speaker 2: rack dot Com studios look one hundred and seventy three

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars Like.

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Speaker 3: Okay, right, how much you're like, how much money do

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Speaker 3: you look?

585
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Speaker 2: I have been there have been times in my life

586
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Speaker 2: that I've been so broke. I didn't know how I

587
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Speaker 2: was going to feed my dogs. And There's been time

588
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Speaker 2: in my life that I've been okay, right, I grew

589
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Speaker 2: up with nothing. So I'm one of those people that

590
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 2: because I grew up with nothing, Like we had one

591
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Speaker 2: box of mac and cheese for the family for the day.

592
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 2: That was breakfast, lunch, and dinner combined. Like we didn't

593
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Speaker 2: have anything. So like for me, I guard what I have.

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Speaker 2: So I'm cheap. I know I'm cheap. My friends make

595
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Speaker 2: fun of me for being cheap. I get it, like

596
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Speaker 2: like I happen to like certain toys cause I didn't

597
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Speaker 2: have a lot of toys when I was kid. So

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Speaker 2: if I see like an eighties wrestling figure, something that

599
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Speaker 2: I wanted reminds me of my childhood, I'll sit there

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Speaker 2: and debate for like an hour on eBay whether or

601
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Speaker 2: not I'm comfortable spending fifty bucks. How much money do

602
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Speaker 2: you have to have in the bank to go one

603
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Speaker 2: hundred and seventy three thousand dollars for a rookie car?

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Speaker 4: Yeah A lot, A lot, Yeah, a lot. And I'm

605
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Speaker 4: not cheap, so to speak, but I have in my

606
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Speaker 4: advanced years become a little a little bit more frugal,

607
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Speaker 4: So I do understand that I'm not paying one hundred

608
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Speaker 4: and seventy three thousand four car. I know that very clearly.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw one of my dear friends under the

610
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Speaker 2: bus that also played the league, also a Louisville guy,

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Speaker 2: Harry Douglass.

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Speaker 3: We together for the years. Harry's like a brother to me.

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Speaker 4: We played with Harry.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Harry.

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Speaker 2: Harry wears these big earrings, these huge earrings, right, And

616
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Speaker 2: I was asking one day, I was like, man, how

617
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 2: much those earrings costs? He's like, you kidding, Claires Man,

618
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,360
Speaker 2: Like Harry's getting his earrings from Claires. He's wearing fake playing. See,

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Speaker 2: I respect somebody that played in the league. He's got

620
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Speaker 2: a little bit, you know, he's got enough nickels that

621
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Speaker 2: he can lay on the bed and be happy. Right,

622
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 2: but he's still wearing the wearing the cheap earrings. That

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Speaker 2: that to me, carry that's frugal.

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Speaker 4: You know what's crazy about that? Nobody would know anyway.

625
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 4: I mean, they expect you to have it, so they

626
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 4: would probably expect it to be real. So yeah, go

627
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 4: with the Claires. Claire's is if you sign them up

628
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Speaker 4: real well and you clean them and you make sure

629
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Speaker 4: you take care of them, you wouldn't tell the difference.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say this too. Since you know Harry,

631
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 2: he keeps trying to convince me that he's sixty one.

632
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 2: My guys never seen sixty one. He has no idea

633
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 2: what six one is. Next time you see him, just

634
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 2: reminded us that he's not. I just got to remind

635
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 2: him that. All right, you are a mad yes, And

636
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 2: so I'm excited for you because you know, here we

637
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 2: are in a world where Clay is now headed to

638
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 2: the MAVs, and now we all we love these dynamic.

639
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 3: Threes, Like we love trios in general.

640
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 2: So the concept of Kyrie and Clay and then Luca,

641
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 2: it feels great for a MAVs fan right now.

642
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 3: Are you on cloud nine with this?

643
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 4: I'm on Cloud eight. I'm on Cloud eight. I'm close.

644
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 4: I'm close. I love Clay, I love the pick. I

645
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 4: love what that dynamic h his dynamic can bring to

646
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 4: the team. Obviously, when you watch the finals, right, I

647
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 4: mean it was a lack of shooting that ultimately took

648
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 4: out took out the Mapicks, right, I mean they played

649
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 4: solid defense, really really no better than solid defense, really

650
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 4: great defense on Kyrie and Luca. They made it really tough,

651
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 4: and when they would spread it to the corners or

652
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 4: spread it to the shooters, they just weren't able to

653
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Speaker 4: make it. And so when you add one of the

654
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Speaker 4: all time greatest shooters in that mix and he's getting

655
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,719
Speaker 4: those same open looks, I would like my chances with that.

656
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 4: So yes, I mean, obviously he's lost a step defensively,

657
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 4: but he still competes. It'll be a veteran presence knows

658
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 4: how to win and can be the second best, second

659
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 4: best scorer on a night where one of those guys struggled,

660
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 4: so big pickup.

661
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 3: I love the kind what you said, lost to step defensively.

662
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 2: But the nice thing is that he's going to be

663
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 2: practicing in the same room as Lucas, so he's gonna

664
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 2: look like a defensive superstar exactly.

665
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 7: He'll look good.

666
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 2: I mean, there is no but I do think to

667
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 2: your point, this takes a little bit of the pressure

668
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 2: off of Luca to be a savior every night scoring right,

669
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 2: And that's that's what we really saw at the By

670
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 2: the end of the playoff run, it just felt like

671
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: the world was on his shoulders. And I don't know

672
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 2: that you can effectively go through an entire playoff. It's

673
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 2: such a gauntlet in the NBA to go through the playoffs,

674
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 2: like having to do it that way and be the

675
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 2: guy with with so little help like Kyrie. Not taking

676
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 2: anything away from Kyrie, he played well in Spurts, but man,

677
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 2: what they were asking to Luca. I do like that

678
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 2: at some point for Clay, I'm not sure anybody right

679
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 2: now in my mind, because I feel like what the

680
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 2: Selties have accomplished is this beautiful level.

681
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 3: Of star power and depth.

682
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm not sure anybody can touch, but I don't

683
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 2: know that you can acquire depth easily. So if you

684
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 2: can't get the depth that you need easily, at least

685
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 2: go out and take care of getting some of the

686
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 2: dynamic guys that you know you can rely on night in.

687
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 3: A night out.

688
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 4: You know. The other part about that is, I mean

689
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 4: we're talking about the Clay acquisition, which is obviously the headliner.

690
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 4: It's great, but they bring in Naji Marshall, they bring

691
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 4: in Quinton Grimes. These are guys that they are little

692
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 4: upgrades over Dereck Jones Junior and Tim Hardaway. Like so,

693
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 4: like if you got a team that went to the

694
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 4: NBA Finals and you had a chance to win a

695
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 4: championship this year, and you add incremental pieces to get better,

696
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 4: I don't think you always have to get that superstar,

697
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,719
Speaker 4: superstar player to put you over to hump, because that

698
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 4: doesn't always get you over to hump. So if you

699
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 4: have one of the best players in the world in Luca,

700
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 4: I think he needs to mature a little bit and

701
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 4: understand that what you just said, him feeling like he

702
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 4: has has to be him against the world, and that's

703
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 4: how he plays a lot of times. I don't think

704
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 4: he literally has to do that but he feels that way,

705
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 4: and so we have guys like PJ. Washington, Derek Lively,

706
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 4: these guys are going to get better. And I don't

707
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 4: even know if Clay at the end of the day

708
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 4: is going to be that third score. I don't think

709
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 4: he has to be considered that third score because PJ.

710
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 4: Washington has that ability. And so going through a whole

711
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 4: off season of you know, putting that game play together

712
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 4: and putting that pecking order together, is gonna do the

713
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 4: same wonders do wonders for the same.

714
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 2: It feels to me a little bit like you the

715
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 2: fine line between improvement and doing too much. Also like

716
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 2: I guess I like that this is that that moment

717
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 2: because I'm still looking at the Bucks a couple of

718
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 2: years ago and remembering the conversations we were having at

719
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 2: the time of well, the Bucks are about to go

720
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 2: on a run, and how many championships can Yannis win there,

721
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 2: which is what we like to do every single time.

722
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 2: But instead the Bucks seem to get a little bit.

723
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 2: They made too many changes, things he got too weird

724
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 2: for him, and then all of a sudden, now it

725
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 2: feels like they've lost some of that momentum versus the Nuggets,

726
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 2: who you know essentially went out patiently, did their thing

727
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 2: and now are continually that's that's their path, Like they're

728
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 2: just gonna stay the course. They're not gonna listen to

729
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 2: the noise, gonna be a boring franchise that does boring

730
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 2: things and wins a lot of basketball games.

731
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 4: And that's what it is. It's it's it's uh, it's

732
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 4: hype over substance, right You. If you want to sell seats,

733
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 4: you want to be in the at the top of

734
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 4: the headline, you can do those by going out and

735
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 4: making those splash acquisitions. But if you want to win

736
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 4: and be a contender year in and year out, that's

737
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 4: a there's a process of that, and there's a and

738
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 4: there's a way to go about that. You have to

739
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 4: you have to fail some to to to build some

740
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 4: backbone and build some chemistry and and and build a

741
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 4: team that's able to when when those tough times come

742
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 4: again through the fire, get through it together as a group.

743
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 4: And I think that's what you see when you see

744
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 4: franchises that last.

745
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 2: I don't care what sport we're talking about. I think

746
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 2: sometimes winning is a lot like dieting. If you want

747
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 2: to go on like a crazy diet and lose a

748
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: bunch of weight super fast. Fine, but it's not sustainable.

749
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: You better get everything you want out of that summer

750
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: body that one year, because if you're doing it, then, man,

751
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 2: unless you've picked up the right habits. And then you

752
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 2: look at the people that are like, hey, the last

753
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 2: three years, I've been doing these three things and all

754
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 2: of a sudden, you know, I've changed my life. Like

755
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 2: those are habits you. Yes, we look at the Chiefs

756
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 2: in the NFL. We talk all the time about Mahomes

757
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 2: and Andy Reid, which is important, but also, as Field

758
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 2: Gates pointed out last year, if you look at their

759
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 2: track record in the NFL draft, they haven't missed in

760
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 2: a top three round pick in years, like they hit

761
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 2: it an alarming rate. So like there is just sort

762
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 2: of a discipline is done by doing the little things,

763
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 2: the boring things, the right way over and over and

764
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 2: over again.

765
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 3: You gotta build depth.

766
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 4: Yes, it's substance. You gotta have some steps substance and depth,

767
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 4: and you gotta have guys that fit your scheme and

768
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 4: fit what you do. A lot of times when you

769
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 4: go out and get those splash players, you have to

770
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 4: readjust you have to do things that you normally wouldn't do,

771
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 4: and so that breaks up chemistry. That breaks up other

772
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 4: guys that were already starting to blossom in their roles

773
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,959
Speaker 4: and get better and expecting the next year for their

774
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 4: roles to expand a little bit. But then you're bringing

775
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 4: a big name guy, a top knots guy, and that

776
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 4: role shrinks again, and then those guys become unhappy being

777
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 4: then that's part of the process as well.

778
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 3: He's Scary Road time. Jason Fitz.

779
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,959
Speaker 2: Hey, Monci, what's the name of that fancy soccer tournament

780
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 2: that's going on right now?

781
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 6: Go by Medica, Medica, Medica.

782
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say America.

783
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 6: Same thing as Year Road twenty twenty four, which Martin

784
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 6: Weiss admitted that he thought for the longest time that

785
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 6: it was the same tournament.

786
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 3: I was like, how there was two different names.

787
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 7: He's like, I still thought it was the same name.

788
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, come on, Martin, come on, Martin.

789
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 3: Here's the thing.

790
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 2: I've been saying, Copa America this whole time, and it

791
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 2: doesn't sound as cool.

792
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 3: But I will tell you this.

793
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 2: We had controversy, if you will call it, amongst soccer

794
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 2: diehards about the way the match ended, and I want

795
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 2: to get into it because it's a common thread in

796
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 2: all of sports. Why can no sport get overtime right?

797
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 2: We'll figure it out next. He's carry roads on Jason

798
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 2: fits on Fox Sports Radio. He's carry roads on Jason

799
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 2: Fitz Fox Sports Radio, hanging out with you, Carrie. I

800
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 2: don't understand why nobody can make their fans happy. And

801
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 2: I'm talking about overtime specifically because I'm looking at Twitter yesterday.

802
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 8: Now.

803
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 2: I realize Twitter X doesn't have a lot of happy

804
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 2: people in general. I will acknowledge that. But as we're

805
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 2: watching yesterday and just seeing the soccer world absolutely go

806
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 2: nuts when games get into the penalty kick situation, I

807
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 2: kept looking at it and saying, God, why is this

808
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 2: so hard? Like, as as an NFL player and as

809
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 2: somebody that has covered the NFL in college football for

810
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 2: me for years, I could tell you I hate both

811
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 2: of their overtimes. I'm just I'm be honest with you.

812
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 2: College football overtime is lame. Like you give them them

813
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 2: all at the twenty five over and over and over again.

814
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 2: They're just marching in and scoring. It feels like a

815
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: bastardized version of the game, like none of it really

816
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 2: makes sense to me. And then in the NFL, like

817
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 2: I had no problem with sudden death, but then everybody says, well,

818
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 2: now both teams have to get a possession, and then

819
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 2: it goes sudden death, which is just delaying. Like I

820
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 2: imagine an AFC championship game where Mahomes gets the ball

821
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 2: and runs them down the field and they score, and

822
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 2: then Josh Allen gets the ball and takes them down

823
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 2: the field and they score, and then Mahomes takes them

824
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 2: down the field again, Like now it's okay that it's

825
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 2: sudden death, Like it wasn't a ok so, Like I

826
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: hate all of these overtimes, and I just don't understand why.

827
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 3: You know, we got to figure out somewhere.

828
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 2: I can't imagine you carry, you're on the field, you've

829
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 2: worked your wholetale off, you've worked your entire life. You

830
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 2: get to the end of a big moment in a

831
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 2: championship game, and then all of a sudden, they're like,

832
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 2: guys are going to overtime.

833
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 3: So we're gonna have the kickers kickfield goals.

834
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 2: So we're gonna start at the thirty five yard line

835
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 2: and we're just gonna back it up. The kicker is

836
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 2: gonna decide who wins the superw like we would go

837
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 2: nuts for that.

838
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be that would be nerve wrecking for sure.

839
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 4: You know what, I don't know. I don't think anybody

840
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 4: will ever be satisfied with the result of what overtime

841
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 4: would bring. I mean, I think there's always not even

842
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 4: just two sides of the coin, which is normal, but

843
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 4: it's always it seems like it's three sides of the coin, right,

844
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 4: Like there's gonna be somebody that feels that it's one person.

845
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 4: It should be sudden death. One person should get the

846
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,479
Speaker 4: ball and go down and score and that's it. Kick

847
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 4: touchdown doesn't matter whatever. There's peer or is there there

848
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 4: are peersts that believe that, and I think it again,

849
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 4: it does stem from experience, right, experience in the game

850
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 4: where it was such a great game, Buffalo Kannas City,

851
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 4: back and forth. You know, if Mahomes get the ball first,

852
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 4: you think that it's over, and that's kind of what happened.

853
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 4: But people wanted to see Josh Allen get a chance

854
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 4: to do it right, and I think it becomes you

855
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 4: become a prisoner of the moment and not trying to

856
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 4: actually get the best possible solution to the answer. So

857
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 4: I think that's what we are, and I think that's

858
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 4: us as humans now, right, Like, there's always a better

859
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 4: way to do something, and until everybody satisfied, is always

860
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 4: going to be discussion about it. Right, But for me,

861
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 4: I don't even know. I don't even know what's the

862
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 4: best way to make this thing be a happy, sudden

863
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 4: death situation.

864
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 2: Well, I mean thinking about how we all felt at

865
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 2: the super Bowl, right, Like, it's just the conversation about

866
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 2: how games end never seems to go away.

867
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 3: And look, I'm not a soccer fanatic. I enjoy watching

868
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 3: the sport. I think it's fun.

869
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 2: I'm not super like passionate about anyone of it. So

870
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 2: for me, standing in a bar, if I see the

871
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 2: word penalty kicks, I'm all in, yeah, Like, look, we're

872
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 2: all gonna stand and watch it, like I think, although

873
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 2: they only do it in the regular season, if we

874
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 2: get to a shootout at the end of the overtime

875
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 2: in a hockey game, like I love hockey, so like

876
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 2: standing around see the shoot.

877
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 3: Out, that's kind of fun for me.

878
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, But the diehards seem to hate every single level

879
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 2: of it like diehard soccer fans yesterday, we're losing their

880
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 2: minds that a tournament could be decided.

881
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 3: By penalty kicks.

882
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 2: I don't know what the better solution is, because you know,

883
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 2: you could point out that the guys are going to

884
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 2: run themselves to death if they play a whole extra period,

885
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 2: but like, I wouldn't have any hard time with that.

886
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 2: The NBA does it simple, like here's the amount of

887
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: time we're gonna.

888
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 3: Play, and we're just gonna keep doing that till somebody wins.

889
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 4: That to me makes sense, Like what, okay, Jason, what

890
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 4: if it was what the NBA was. You play a

891
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 4: five minute overtime and if they at the end of

892
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 4: that overtime you're tied and it goes to like a

893
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 4: three point contest, What do you feel about that?

894
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 3: Oh? God?

895
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 2: People would lose their mind, like you got your trust

896
00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 2: three point contests their dunk contest.

897
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 5: There is a half simple solution to this, and unfortunately

898
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 5: it's one that soccer has tried before and they found wanting,

899
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 5: and that's to bring back the goal what's called the

900
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 5: golden goal or in NHL sudden death, like whoever scores

901
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,399
Speaker 5: first an extra time wins and I think I think

902
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 5: what's happened an extra time is usually you do see

903
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 5: some goals an extra time, but then the other team

904
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 5: immediately responds, and it's just it's very I think it

905
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 5: happened to yours this year.

906
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 7: It's just very frustrating. It's very frustrating.

907
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 5: And I know the arguments against it because you would

908
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 5: have teams just turtle an extra time, neither team wanting

909
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 5: to concede the golden goal. But I think that was

910
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 5: like twenty years ago. I think it's time we can

911
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 5: try bringing this back. We can still have the penalty

912
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 5: penalty kicks if extra time goes scoreless, but I do

913
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 5: think that it is time to like that. Would that

914
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 5: would absolutely ram up the stakes. NHL overtime in the

915
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 5: playoffs is so fun because of sudden death. Like that

916
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 5: would get the effect you want.

917
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, for sure, I would.

918
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,720
Speaker 3: Be all in for sudden death in every sport.

919
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 2: Imagine the intensity you would see in defense in an

920
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 2: NBA playoff game if the first bucket.

921
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 5: Hills after the original NFL overtime, God, that'll be like

922
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 5: NBA Street.

923
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 4: They'll be out tackling people. It'll be kind of that'll

924
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 4: be wwfas.

925
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 5: Well, like sudden death, but not for the NFL overtime

926
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 5: though that we tried that already.

927
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 7: That's uh.

928
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 3: I love NFL overtime sudden death. I have no problem

929
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 3: with it.

930
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 5: Even when the team doesn't even get to answer, doesn't

931
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 5: get to touch the ball, why should.

932
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 3: They get to a like?

933
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 2: So, look what we have now is a situation where

934
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,280
Speaker 2: a team goes down and scores. Team goes down and scores.

935
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 2: We're still gonna get to sudden death. Like we didn't

936
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: get rid of sudden death. We just delayed sudden death.

937
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: It hasn't reared. It's ugly head right right right, but

938
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 2: believe me, like it's it's still there. Yeah, I have

939
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: no problem with sudden death. Like I mean, realistically, if

940
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 2: you're in an NHL game and I've seen this in person,

941
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 2: thirty five seconds into overtime, somebody comes down and scores,

942
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 2: there isn't a well shucks, guys, we didn't even get

943
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 2: to take the puck down to the attacking.

944
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 3: Zone on our side, So we'd really like that like.

945
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 4: That doesn't exist, right, And you know what it's crazy

946
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 4: about that, Jason is I don't think any player had

947
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 4: a problem with that and I mean because that was

948
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 4: what it was, right, and then it isn't a problem

949
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 4: until you until you introduce something else or a different

950
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 4: way to do it, and you're like, oh, oh, we

951
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 4: can do it this way though. But before that, no,

952
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 4: we knew it was sudden death and that was it,

953
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 4: and it was fine.

954
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have no problem with sudden death.

955
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 2: And I thought sudden death overtime was better in the

956
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 2: NFL than what we have now, which is just a

957
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 2: delayed sudden death. It's only gonna make people more frustrated.

958
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 2: All right, We're just getting started. We got a lot

959
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 2: to get to, including a shocking pick for possibly Coach

960
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 2: of the Year in the NFL. We'll break that down

961
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 2: next on Fox Sports Radio. We are only nine Sundays

962
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 2: away from the start of the NFL season, but it's

963
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 2: never too early to over hype certain teams. And just

964
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 2: when you thought the hype around the Bears couldn't get

965
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 2: any bigger.

966
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 3: It has.

967
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 2: I cannot believe I'm saying this, but according to the sportsbooks,

968
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 2: Matt Eberflus is the betting favorite for Coach of the Year.

969
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 2: What is Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. He's carry Roads.

970
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 2: I'm Jason Fitzkerry.

971
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 3: Look. I like the Bears a lot this year. I

972
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 3: like the way they built.

973
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 2: That roster and Kayleb Williams, somebody I've covered a lot

974
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 2: during my work covering college football. I think we made

975
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 2: that too complicated. I think Caleb's going to be a superstar.

976
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,919
Speaker 2: I think he's absolutely a lock, solid number one overall pick.

977
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 3: I think the Bears have a chance to win a

978
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 3: lot of football games.

979
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 2: But if there's any one thing that I thought was

980
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 2: a mistake this year, it's frankly that they kept a

981
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 2: dead man walking a head coach. Because now if it

982
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 2: doesn't go great, all of a sudden, ebra Flus is

983
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: going to be shown the door. I'd be less surprised

984
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 2: to see ebra Flus fired then I would to see

985
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 2: ebra Flush make it as coach of the year.

986
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 3: That's stunning to me.

987
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is. I think with the additions, with you

988
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 4: bringing in the number one pick in this draft, and

989
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 4: then you go out and you know, you really improve

990
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 4: that roster the way they have, the pressure is on.

991
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 4: So either way you look at it, this is probably

992
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 4: going to be a make or break year for him.

993
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 4: The fact that he's getting recognition as possibly being, like

994
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 4: you said, the front and runner for Coach of the Year.

995
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 4: I don't know about that one. That's a bit steep,

996
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 4: But I think the attention that comes with the picks

997
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 4: and the additions that they had, this is the only

998
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 4: place that could be. Let's give him the best opportunity

999
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 4: to make this thing work. And if it doesn't, like

1000
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 4: you said, I think he will be showing the door.

1001
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 4: But on the upside, he could be Coach of the Year.

1002
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 4: So we'll find out here soon.

1003
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 2: What's interesting to me is the way Coach of the

1004
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,720
Speaker 2: Year is usually awarded. It's usually a team that stinks

1005
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 2: that suddenly doesn't stink, right like that. That's the big

1006
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 2: line here, Like if nobody thinks go back a few

1007
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 2: years ago, nobody thought the Titans were going to do anything,

1008
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 2: Titans have a good year, Mike Rabele coach of the year,

1009
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 2: right like that, That's the way it usually goes.

1010
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 3: I feel like.

1011
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 2: There's already too much hype around the Bears for them

1012
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 2: to be that team for that, because we do look

1013
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 2: at the offseason editions and we do say, wow, they

1014
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 2: have a ton of this offense.

1015
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 3: Is loaded for the Bears right now.

1016
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,919
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think the expectations are already too high

1017
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: for them to be exceeded at a level that would

1018
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 2: even put he Refluce in that combo.

1019
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think. I don't think. I don't I

1020
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 4: don't think the hype is I do get it. I

1021
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 4: think a lot of people are, you know. I think

1022
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 4: people want to jump on a train and say I

1023
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 4: told you so, then actually be im proved wrong or right.

1024
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 4: So that's kind of what's going on here. Obviously, they've

1025
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 4: add that that has some aditions. They look good on paper.

1026
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 4: We know that that means nothing if you've covered the

1027
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 4: game long enough or you've been around long enough to

1028
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 4: know that additions doesn't mean you win. And so there's

1029
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 4: still gonna be learning curve. There's going to be a

1030
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 4: time where you know, we have to be patient. But

1031
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 4: I don't think we have patients with Matt in this

1032
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 4: situation because of the track record, So he's in a

1033
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:30,760
Speaker 4: tough in a difficult position.

1034
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 2: I also think, frankly carry that CJ. Stroud has changed

1035
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 2: the way we're going to evaluate rookie quarterbacks. I don't

1036
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 2: think that's right, but I think that's what's going to happen.

1037
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 2: So if Caleb comes in and just has a pretty

1038
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 2: good year for a rookie quarterback. People are going to

1039
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 2: sort of hold home that right now. Part of the

1040
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 2: reason these expectations are there is because we saw what

1041
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 2: CJ and the Texans did last year, and now there's

1042
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 2: just this presumption, well, if you hit on that quarterback,

1043
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 2: he can be like, like c J.

1044
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 3: Stroud, I think that was anomaly.

1045
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 2: That's not the standard, that's not been That's just somebody

1046
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 2: that came out and really I don't think it's fair

1047
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 2: to judge Caleb Williams by that standard, but that's what's

1048
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 2: going to happen inevitably.

1049
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 4: It's definitely an anomaly. And if you really want to

1050
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 4: like get to the meat and potatoes of that situation,

1051
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 4: nobody expected c J. Stroud to do anything. I mean,

1052
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 4: he was the one out of all the quarterbacks last

1053
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 4: year that people were doubting the most, and so he

1054
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 4: comes out and kills it early on and becomes c

1055
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 4: J strout. But you know, nobody was expecting that. In

1056
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 4: this situation with the Bears, it kind of aligns with

1057
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 4: what you're talking about right now and the expectations the

1058
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 4: head coach we expect, you know, Caleb Williams to be,

1059
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 4: you know, the rookie of the year and play well

1060
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 4: and be the next CJ. Stroud as a rookie, and

1061
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 4: so the expectations are there, and so it's gonna be

1062
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 4: hard for him. We've seen this plenty of times with

1063
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 4: you know, top quarterbacks come into the draft. We saw

1064
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 4: it during my time playing with the Peyton Manning right,

1065
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 4: I mean, his rookie year. He was expected to be

1066
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 4: the best thing that I mean since sliced bread, and

1067
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 4: he threw more interceptions in touchdown. So being pacing and

1068
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 4: giving those guys a chance to actually blossom and be

1069
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 4: the best they can. They're not afforded that now these days,

1070
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 4: and so it's gonna be tough for Kleb. I think

1071
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 4: I hope he He's able to navigate and play well obviously,

1072
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 4: but we can't expect him to be CD child.

1073
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 2: It's funny to me too, because I always laugh when

1074
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 2: teams come out afterwards. You hear the reports afterwards, usually

1075
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 2: from either GMS or coaches that have been fired.

1076
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,479
Speaker 3: I was really gunning for that guy. We wanted that guy.

1077
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 2: Like after the draft is done and somebody's about how

1078
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 2: the number of people afterwards that were sitting there saying, Wow,

1079
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 2: we were.

1080
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 3: Hot on CJ all along. Shit, you were like we

1081
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 3: were at I was.

1082
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: I was covering that college football playoff game at the

1083
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 2: time where CJ absolutely carved up Georgia. And what was

1084
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 2: interesting about watching that that entire process of.

1085
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 3: Him playing so well was just the amount of us

1086
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 3: on the sidelines.

1087
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 2: They were standing there saying, my guy's just making himself

1088
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: money right here, because we forget that. There was this

1089
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 2: conversation about, well, he's not athletic enough, he doesn't make

1090
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 2: enough plays off schedule, and you know, he's just he's

1091
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 2: a system, system court. All these stupid things people were saying.

1092
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 2: And then he got in the college football playoff and

1093
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 2: showed everybody what you know, they were saying. And so

1094
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 2: to me, you're right, we just forget now that he's

1095
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 2: at one great year.

1096
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 3: How much there was some level of doubt from some

1097
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 3: people around it.

1098
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's it's you know again, I'm And the

1099
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 4: crazy part about it is when you did see him

1100
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 4: play in Ohio State, like you knew the guy was

1101
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 4: really good. And so you have an off season of

1102
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 4: you know, getting to the league and year you're taking

1103
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 4: these tests and I think it was the wonder the

1104
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 4: test he had a low score on and next thing,

1105
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 4: you know, he's not smart enough or he's he's not

1106
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,280
Speaker 4: athletic enough, and you just start to see these leaks

1107
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 4: and stories on you know, this guy to try to

1108
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 4: I think save face. I think we see a lot

1109
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 4: of that, like trying to save face. And so if

1110
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 4: you are the guy that brings brings in that guy

1111
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 4: with you know, a little mutant buttential and then he

1112
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 4: becomes CJ's child. For me, always that situation is the

1113
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 4: best because you want to make sure that those guys

1114
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 4: are able to succeed and actually, you know, kind of

1115
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 4: blast through expectations and they it looks like you found

1116
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 4: the next guy instead of having the pressure of being

1117
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 4: the guy. And I think there's a difference there.

1118
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 2: I also think the conversation about intelligence that we have

1119
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 2: every year around the draft, and I've been lucky enough

1120
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 2: I covered it six years of ESPN, covered it this year.

1121
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 3: For Yahoo Sports, And really I love the Draft.

1122
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 2: It's my favorite event because of what it means for

1123
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 2: college football kids and what it means for the NFL,

1124
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 2: Like it brings all of my favorite worlds to cover

1125
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 2: all together. The amount of conversation about intelligence that I

1126
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 2: think is just absolutely asinine, because I would challenge anybody

1127
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 2: that's sitting here trying to talk about some kids intelligence

1128
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 2: to sit down and listen to them talk about a playbook,

1129
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 2: Like we have to remember what the skill is of

1130
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 2: being able to memorize a playbook. And we saw Chase

1131
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 2: Daniel and dani Rolobsky and a few other guys this

1132
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 2: year start pulling out the playbooks and showing people a

1133
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 2: real look at Hey, this was the Saint's playbook a

1134
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 2: few years ago. Here are the variations that come into it,

1135
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 2: Like processing information is something that any of these kids

1136
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 2: at the highest possible level have more gift doing than I.

1137
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 3: Think most of us have any understanding of.

1138
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 2: So it just it drives me crazy when we sit

1139
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 2: there and say, well, he didn't do well enough on

1140
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 2: this cognitive test, It's like, what the hell does that

1141
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 2: have to do with how he's going to play the game?

1142
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 4: Nothing, because we all learn differently as well, And so

1143
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 4: just because somebody it's not good at taking a test

1144
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 4: doesn't mean that if they're presented a problem they can't

1145
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 4: find answer to that solution.

1146
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 2: Well, and think about just the other side of just

1147
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 2: life in general. When you look at it and say,

1148
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 2: if you're a kid that's drafted, like everybody wants to

1149
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 2: give up on price, youlling right now. If you're a

1150
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 2: kid that's drafted, you find out, you know, at the

1151
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 2: end of April, where you're going to live, then all

1152
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 2: of a sudden, you might be going someplace that you

1153
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 2: didn't even know where it was on a map. If

1154
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 2: we're being real, now, all of a sudden, you're getting

1155
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 2: a place, you're figuring out how to be a pro,

1156
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 2: You're living a much different life. I remember one college

1157
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 2: kid told me a few years ago it was such

1158
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 2: a weird adjustment because his college teammates went everywhere together,

1159
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 2: and then he shows up with the team facility where

1160
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 2: he was drafted, and everybody goes home to their families

1161
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 2: and everything. He's like, I don't even know how to

1162
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 2: assimilate into this life. Like we take all of that

1163
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 2: for granted while somebody's learning thousands of pages of plays

1164
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 2: at the same time. And this is where somebody listening says,

1165
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 2: I don't care. They make millions of dollars. Yeah, okay, cool,

1166
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 2: but they're like still human beings that have to figure

1167
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 2: these things out.

1168
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 3: And it takes some people a little longer to do it.

1169
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 4: It is. And I'm glad you brought that up right

1170
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 4: because right now I'm actually working on this docu series

1171
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 4: that I'm doing called Bust and Right, And so we

1172
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 4: talk about labeling certain people or individuals as bust in

1173
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 4: a professional sense, and we see that and we see

1174
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 4: them fail on such a big scale and not having

1175
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 4: any humanity towards that person or understanding exactly what you

1176
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 4: what you just stated, like, this is an individual going

1177
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 4: through a whole lot of things that you have no

1178
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 4: you have no understanding of, and you just want to

1179
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 4: see them succeed for your team or your fantasy team,

1180
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 4: and so you you have expectations of what that looks like,

1181
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 4: but you have no idea what this person's going through.

1182
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 4: And so me wanting to share that with other with

1183
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 4: with the world, to let them know that you fail

1184
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 4: on the daily, on the daily basis that nobody sees it,

1185
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 4: and you're judging somebody that has hiccups on live TV

1186
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 4: or in front of a national audience with no compassion.

1187
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 4: It's just it's crazy to me.

1188
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 2: It's always funny to me too, because systems matter, and

1189
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 2: you know, we want to just live in this society

1190
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,879
Speaker 2: where the minute you put somebody into an offense, it's

1191
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 2: going to be perfect, right, But for Caleb and everybody

1192
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 2: else is going to have to learn this bears offense

1193
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 2: systems matter. You know, I've always said humbly, I was

1194
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 2: lucky enough to be one of the best at what

1195
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 2: I did as a fiddle player in a country music pit.

1196
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 2: But let me tell you, man, I can't play bluegrass

1197
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 2: music at all, Like I am the word like, I don't.

1198
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 2: I don't get it, I don't understand it. Like back

1199
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 2: roads country bluegrass. I love it, it's fine, I can't

1200
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 2: play it. And the funny thing is if you put

1201
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 2: me on stage and you said, hey, play this bluegrass too,

1202
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 2: I can't. And so the people walking by would say, man,

1203
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 2: that fiddle players suck and this if you put me

1204
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 2: the next night and you're like, hey, put him on

1205
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 2: stage playing this rock pop country thing that we did,

1206
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,760
Speaker 2: you know, successfully with the Van Perry. Like I look around,

1207
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, I have golden platinum records on

1208
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 2: my walls that I'm proud of because I was really

1209
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 2: good at that, and I think we forget that with

1210
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 2: athletes too. Like, as much as we want to look

1211
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,399
Speaker 2: at Caleb's success and and Roma Duneesa's success and Keel

1212
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 2: and Kington Allen success and all these different people, like

1213
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator is gonna have to do a better

1214
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 2: job than Luke Getzi did last year, and if he doesn't, then, man,

1215
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 2: everybody's gonna view the players as an abject failure.

1216
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 3: It's a weird world to live in.

1217
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 4: It is it is. It's performance based, and we know that,

1218
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 4: we know that's part of the job. We sign up

1219
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 4: for that, but it's it's performance based on a whole

1220
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 4: lot of levels, and it's not just that player. And

1221
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 4: what you just said is one hundred percent true. I

1222
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 4: mean the coaching and putting them in the best positions

1223
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 4: to succeed is going to be the golden ticket when

1224
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 4: it comes to the Bears and any team that wants

1225
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 4: to be successful, because just because you have the talent

1226
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 4: pool to go out there and now on paper look

1227
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,280
Speaker 4: like you can you can win some games and succeed,

1228
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 4: It's gonna take a lot more, a lot more behind

1229
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 4: the scenes, getting these guys with the right ingredients to

1230
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 4: succeed and go out and be put their best foot forward.

1231
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 3: So we'll see, yeah, and succeeding.

1232
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 2: Vegas always succeeds a coach like Iberflus is the leader

1233
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 2: for Coach of the Year because they're getting a bunch

1234
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 2: of money from people right now that are hot on

1235
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:22,720
Speaker 2: the Bears, and they think that's going to be the answer,

1236
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 2: right Like we're just giving away free money to the casinos.

1237
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 2: In the meantime, a lot of us are about to

1238
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 2: give money to college football because there's a video game

1239
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,439
Speaker 2: coming out in a week that has us all hype.

1240
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 2: But the question is, though, when you look at the

1241
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 2: actual game. Texas and Oklahoma are about to head to

1242
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 2: the SEC. Can they make a dent in the SEC?

1243
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 2: We will figure that out. Next Toastcarry Roads, I'm Jason

1244
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 2: Fitzwer hanging out with you on Fox Sports Radio. It's

1245
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday. I'm Jason Fitzi'scarry Rhoads Fox Sports Radio.

1246
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 3: Carry.

1247
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 2: Do you remember the first time you got to play

1248
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 2: Madden and you were in the game.

1249
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 4: I do, yeah. I was a twenty two year old

1250
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 4: kid in Long Island, New York, and you know, you

1251
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 4: start to see these the ratings and you see yourself

1252
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 4: and you're looking at it and as a rookie. You

1253
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 4: just see like this, this this muted, terrible version of

1254
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 4: yourself running around out there. The jersey doesn't look like you.

1255
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 4: You don't wear your knee passed that way.

1256
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 3: It was.

1257
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 4: It was very frustrating, It's what I'm trying to say, Jess.

1258
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 4: And and then you know, you you come into that

1259
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 4: after that first year you make the whole rookie team,

1260
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 4: and then you're the second year, you're an all pro.

1261
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 4: Your appearance looks a little different, you know what I mean.

1262
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 4: So you watch those games, man, No, it was, it was.

1263
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 4: It was. It was crazy that all my friends were

1264
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 4: playing with it. And of course if I played the game,

1265
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 4: I had to play myself. So it was fun.

1266
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,359
Speaker 2: Look, and I think this is part of just what

1267
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 2: is very cool about the college football game. That were

1268
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 2: you know, a little over a week away from coming

1269
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 2: out at this point, and you know, for a lot

1270
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 2: of these college kids, especially if you're playing at a

1271
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 2: small school, you don't have a shot at the NFL. Like,

1272
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 2: I can't imagine what it will feel like to open

1273
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 2: up a video game or in this day and h

1274
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 2: download a video game and then you know, play as yourself.

1275
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,240
Speaker 2: It's it's such a cool, incredible experience. For these kids,

1276
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 2: it's not about the money, it's not about any of that.

1277
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 2: For a lot of them, it's just about being able

1278
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:13,439
Speaker 2: to see themselves in a video game.

1279
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 3: I can't imagine that.

1280
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's I mean, there's nothing like it. Really,

1281
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 4: it's it's it is a dream. It is an opportunity

1282
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:24,320
Speaker 4: to also share and share that special moment with any friends, family,

1283
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 4: and you know, to have that conversation that that you're

1284
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 4: on the video game and you're represented as you know,

1285
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 4: one of these little these little megabytes running around. It's

1286
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 4: it's it's pretty cool.

1287
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:34,919
Speaker 3: Now.

1288
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 2: It has me thinking because obviously, when you start thinking

1289
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 2: about this game and some of the Landmark programs, EA

1290
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 2: has done a beautiful job of teasing the you know,

1291
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 2: top offenses and top home environments like they've done a

1292
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 2: great job of hyping the I think is already the

1293
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 2: most type game of all time. But it really has

1294
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 2: me thinking about the fact that there are a bunch

1295
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 2: of people that are going to play this game and

1296
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 2: what they're going to get in their experience. In about

1297
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 2: a week is the first real look at conference realignment,

1298
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,439
Speaker 2: because we're still a few weeks away, you know, from

1299
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 2: being able to see how that plays out on the field.

1300
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 2: But if you're Texas in Oklahoma, and I'm not even

1301
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 2: talking about the video game, the real version of this.

1302
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 2: If you're Texas and Oklahoma, you've been investing money, You've

1303
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 2: been building towards this. You've been building your program, your facilities,

1304
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:19,280
Speaker 2: your fan base, your players through NIL. You are invested

1305
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 2: to come in like this shouldn't. If you're Texas and Oklahoma,

1306
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 2: You're not coming in to have an adjustment period in

1307
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 2: the SEC.

1308
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 3: You're coming in to win the damn thing. And that's

1309
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 3: easier said than done.

1310
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 4: Yeah. No, they're going into a situation where there's definitely

1311
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 4: going to be some eye raising and some concern as

1312
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 4: this journey goes. I mean, the SEC is the SEC

1313
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 4: for a reason. They've been a powerhouse. Obviously, there has

1314
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,959
Speaker 4: been some change with Saban leaving Alabama, so I would

1315
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 4: see Alabama coming back to the pack a little bit there,

1316
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 4: But you know, Georgia still Georgia and those other teams

1317
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 4: are going to be really prepared for these two teams

1318
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 4: coming in because they're not gonna just allow that transition

1319
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 4: to be smooth one in, an easy one. And for me,

1320
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 4: I mean Texas, Oh, you a lot of success. They've

1321
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 4: they've owned the Big twelve. I mean they've owned the

1322
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 4: Big twelve for a long time, and you know they've

1323
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:15,439
Speaker 4: obviously accrued some some some some good some good interests there.

1324
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 4: But stepping into the unknown, the SEC it's going to

1325
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 4: be difficult for them. I see them having an adjustment

1326
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 4: period but also being able to compete as well. I mean,

1327
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 4: they have the cachet to do that.

1328
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 2: It's just when you think about and this is this

1329
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 2: is because it's year one, it hits different. But when

1330
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 2: you think about the schedule, just looking at some of

1331
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 2: the games, I'm looking at Oklahoma schedule this year. Yeah,

1332
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 2: they're gonna play Tennessee at home. They're gonna play Auburn

1333
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 2: at Auburn, They're gonna play at Texas. Then they have

1334
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,800
Speaker 2: to they have to play South Carolina at Ole Miss.

1335
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 2: They also have Missouri on the schedule, that's fine, and

1336
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 2: then they have Alabama. Like in most years, a lot

1337
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 2: of those games would be your featured Saturday.

1338
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,399
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I can't believe we're getting this game.

1339
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it just speaks to how difficult this road

1340
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 2: is because it goes from being a big twelve matchup

1341
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 2: where I think they it was easier to be the

1342
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 2: cream of the crop too. All Right, now you're going

1343
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 2: to be played in an environment you haven't played in before,

1344
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 2: against teams that are flat out gunning to just destroy

1345
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 2: you because they want to show that you don't belong

1346
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:11,760
Speaker 2: in the conference.

1347
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 4: For sure, they're gonna fit. They're gonna feel a little

1348
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 4: bit different passion and aggression than than the Missouri did. Right, Like,

1349
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 4: Missouri went to the SEC and they've had some success.

1350
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 4: They've had some good teams as well, but I don't

1351
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 4: think a lot of people had high expectations of them

1352
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 4: going there, so it would hit different. But with the

1353
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 4: Texas and the OU and the story history that they have,

1354
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 4: it's definitely going to be a welcome to the SEC

1355
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 4: moment that's going to happen for them. You know, Year

1356
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 4: one is definitely gonna get They're going to get tested.

1357
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 4: But I think that's I think we'll have a better

1358
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 4: understanding of what the success looks like and can be

1359
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 4: with them as as the seasons progress. This person's going

1360
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 4: to be tough to kind of comprehend. I think the

1361
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 4: hype's going to be there, obviously, but as far as

1362
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 4: the litany test of saying do they belong? It's going

1363
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 4: to take more than a year.

1364
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 3: I left LSU off by the way, then of course

1365
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 3: go to l s U. Good lord.

1366
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 2: But then think about Texas And now I'm going to

1367
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 2: add one other element to this, two other elements. One

1368
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 2: we're infatuated with trying to yell to the.

1369
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 3: World Texas is back.

1370
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1371
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 3: And then the other part of this is Quinn yours

1372
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 3: is out here as.

1373
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 2: A quarterback trying to cement that he should be the

1374
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 2: top quarterback selected in next year's draft and he's going

1375
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 2: to be a superstar. He's trying to have this huge rise,

1376
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 2: but he's also trying to hold off Arch mannings Man,

1377
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 2: who is the most touted.

1378
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 3: Recruit I can remember.

1379
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 2: I mean, and then you start talking about some of

1380
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 2: the reports that we've heard on Nil and the amount

1381
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 2: of money he's getting paid to sit on the bench, Like,

1382
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 2: I don't know, it just feels like you go in

1383
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 2: and you have one or two bad games, Texas fans

1384
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 2: are going to be screaming. So it feels like there's

1385
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 2: even an extra layer pressure, not just the SEC but

1386
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 2: also Quinn trying to hold off Arch in the SEC

1387
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 2: is just a whole other dynamic.

1388
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 4: It is a whole different dynamic. Obviously, the history of

1389
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 4: that of that name, that last name, obviously, the cachet

1390
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 4: they have, it's going to be hard to keep him

1391
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 4: on the bench. I'm sure there's going to be situations

1392
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 4: where I can just see it now, where you're having

1393
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 4: him come in for, you know, certain situations and spot

1394
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 4: duty and getting on the field, because yeah, it obviously

1395
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 4: seems to be way too good of a player to

1396
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 4: be on the bench. I had a similar situation, and

1397
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to say that the Manning and the

1398
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 4: Brom name is the same, but it is in Louisville.

1399
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 4: And so you had our quarterback, our senior quarterback coming

1400
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 4: back our year where we had a team that finished

1401
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 4: in the top five ranking that year. We had Stephan LaForce,

1402
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 4: who was an NFL quarterback got drafted, but we had

1403
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 4: a highly touted freshman quarterback, Brian Brohm in the building.

1404
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 4: And you know, Stephan was he was the highest efficient quarterback,

1405
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 4: the highest efficiency quarterback in college football that year, and

1406
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 4: he still didn't hold off Brom from getting any plan time.

1407
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 4: So I can see a situation like this happening with

1408
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 4: Texas as well.

1409
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 2: Texas does have a little bit easier run. I mean

1410
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 2: they have to go to Michigan. I'm not counting out

1411
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 2: as part of the SEC conversation. But then they've got

1412
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 2: Mississippi State, Oklahoma, they do have Georgia. They also got Vanderbilt,

1413
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 2: like they got that Arkansas. I'm not putting those in

1414
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 2: the same category, but they've definitely they've got some tough ones.

1415
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 2: But it doesn't feel it feels like Oklahoma this year

1416
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 2: just got the juggernaut out of the gate. And look,

1417
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 2: this is interesting and good for the sport. In my opinion,

1418
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 2: I love having more teams that are taking on quality teams.

1419
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 2: It makes more interest every single Like any given Saturday,

1420
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 2: we're gonna be interested November sixteenth, when we have Texas

1421
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 2: at Arkansas, that game's gonna matter. And I don't know

1422
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 2: that we necessarily feel the same about Whoever. If Texas

1423
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 2: was playing Cincinnati and Arkansas was playing Vandy, right like,

1424
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 2: it gives you a better quality matchup.

1425
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think the letdown fact there's gonna be

1426
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 4: a problem for Texas this year. You know a lot

1427
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 4: of times when you'll go into a week and you

1428
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 4: know it's kind of like a trap game. You're not

1429
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:50,959
Speaker 4: gonna be You're not gonna have that luxury. You're gonna

1430
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 4: have to be on weekend and week out. There's not

1431
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 4: gonna be any excuses for a trap game. And I

1432
01:00:55,760 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 4: think that also could help Texas because having that I

1433
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 4: guess that that that pressure, that game day pressure each

1434
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 4: each week, weekend and week out, would keep them motivated

1435
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 4: and ready to play. So I'm excited to see what

1436
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 4: they can do highly motivated and not being subjected to that.

1437
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 4: That's so that's so called chop game.

1438
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 2: I'm also interested to see what difference playoff expansion makes

1439
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 2: to everybody when we hit like November, right, because so

1440
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 2: often you hit November December, and that can be a

1441
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 2: period where people are checking out if they don't care

1442
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 2: about the matchups. Well, yeah, top twelve teams making the

1443
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 2: playoffs at this point are eleven of the twelve teams

1444
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,439
Speaker 2: making the playoffs. You look at that and say, my god,

1445
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 2: like that is immediately right, there a reason that people

1446
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 2: are going to be even if you already have two

1447
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 2: losses and you're hitting in November, if your Texas or Oklahoma,

1448
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 2: you want to be just absolutely beaten a snot out

1449
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 2: of people. Yeah, so that you can prove to the

1450
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 2: committee that you belong in that conversation of the top twelve.

1451
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 4: Where's Texas and Oklahoma rank?

1452
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 3: Do you know?

1453
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 4: Do you know Jason for the preseason?

1454
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 3: I don't know. I come to Prey, I'll pull them up.

1455
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 2: We'll see where they are in the preseason rankings. In fact,

1456
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 2: I'll do that while Monsei's gonna get his caught up

1457
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 2: on everything going on, because I have another question for

1458
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 2: you about the rest of the sec.

1459
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 3: We'll do that after Monti gets his cover. All right, fella.

1460
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 6: So the Round of sixteen continues at Wimbledon right now.

1461
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 6: Number one seed yah Nick Sinner. He's headed to the

1462
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 6: quarterfinals after defeating American and number fourteen seed Ben Shelton.

1463
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 6: Shelton did what he could, even took him to a

1464
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 6: tie break in the third set, but Cinner came out

1465
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 6: on top. Men's third seed Carlos Alkaraz Is advancing to

1466
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 6: his ninth major quarterfinals appearance. He won his fourth round

1467
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 6: match in four sets. On the women's side, two seed

1468
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 6: Cocoa Golf is going to begin her fourth round match

1469
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 6: any second now, so you can catch that action getting started.

1470
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 6: But American and twelve seed Madison Keys. She had to

1471
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 6: retire earlier today in her fourth round during her third

1472
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 6: set due to a leg injury. In Formula one, Lewis

1473
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 6: Hamilton has just won the British Grand Prix for the

1474
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 6: ninth time. He beat Max first stap In by one

1475
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 6: point four seconds. Last night in Kopa America, Uruguay knocked

1476
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 6: off Brazil in penalty kicks, and then we also had

1477
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 6: I'm like looking at it because there's so much going

1478
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 6: on in soccer fellas. Columbia crushed Panama five mils. So

1479
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 6: the semifinals for the Copa America will begin on Tuesday.

1480
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 6: It's gonna be Adentina and Canada and then on Wednesday

1481
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 6: Uruguay and Columbia. So that's the Copa America Semifinals starting

1482
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 6: and you can catch all of that action on FS

1483
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 6: one And in case you miss it, in the NBA

1484
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 6: six time all start. Demorga Rozen signing a three year,

1485
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 6: seventy six million dollar deal with the Kings via a

1486
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 6: three team signed and trade. That's gonna send Chris Duarte

1487
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 6: to the Bulls and Harrison Barnes.

1488
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 3: To the Spurs.

1489
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 6: And we do have a full slate of MLB games

1490
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 6: which are about to start. But everybody's flying today. And

1491
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 6: last thing I'll tell you in case you're wondering where

1492
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 6: is Travis Kelce, Well, he's in Amsterdam. He was at

1493
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:46,959
Speaker 6: Taylor Swift's obviously Airs tour in Amsterdam, and there's video

1494
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 6: of him because apparently Taylor Swift performed a song from

1495
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 6: her very first album, Mary Song, and there's like a

1496
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 6: very sweet line and she was like looking up to

1497
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 6: him where he was watching from the stands, and apparently

1498
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 6: he got teary eyed. So now there's video of Travis

1499
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 6: getting emotion at the Aras tour like all of us did.

1500
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 7: So mother is still in the air.

1501
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 2: Guys, I feel like half my friends were at those

1502
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 2: shows in Amsterdam.

1503
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 3: It is amazing. How many people I know that went

1504
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 3: to Amsterdam. Yeah, see the Errors tour. It's absolutely wild.

1505
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 6: I mean, just go anywhere. Like if somebody's like, you

1506
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 6: want to go to Dublin to see Taylor Swift, that'd

1507
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 6: be like, yes, That's exactly what Mike Harmon did with

1508
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 6: his daughter. It was her sixteenth birthday, so they went

1509
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 6: to Dublin to see Taylor Swift.

1510
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 7: As amazing.

1511
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 4: That's pretty that's pretty wild.

1512
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 6: I just went down to Englewood, Like Mine's not as

1513
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 6: exciting Wood. I went to Inglewood.

1514
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 4: Was the show amazing.

1515
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 6: I'm still paying for the ticket, but you know, it

1516
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 6: was so good, so good.

1517
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 4: Back to you guys.

1518
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 2: Shamelessly shout out to one of my dear friends, Matt Pillingsley.

1519
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 2: Find him on social media. He's Taylor's drummer and has

1520
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 2: been for a very long time. And I couldn't be

1521
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 2: more proud of a great human being that is now

1522
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 2: on We were we were going on a hike a

1523
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 2: couple of months ago talking about it. It was like,

1524
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 2: it's incredible to think that he's the drummer on this

1525
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:04,919
Speaker 2: generation's Michael Jackson tour.

1526
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 3: And that's just the realist way to say it.

1527
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 2: Like, no matter what any all listening think about Taylor

1528
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 2: Swift's music one way or the other, Like the thing

1529
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 2: that I would say is that they have to get

1530
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 2: multiple hotel rooms in foreign countries so that they can

1531
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 2: find rooms where people aren't basically bombarding the lobby to

1532
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 2: get them in. People flock outside of the stadium for

1533
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 2: hours just to try and hear a sound check like

1534
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 2: it is. It is truly this generation's Michael Jackson, and

1535
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 2: it's incredible to see the power that that tour has had.

1536
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 4: That's crazy to think about all the drummers that she

1537
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 4: could have, you know, could have been, could have aligned

1538
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 4: herself with the fact that he's there. Man, it's kudos

1539
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 4: to him as well. I know how that works. I'm

1540
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 4: in a music business as well, and so I do

1541
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 4: understand the dynamic of that. So that's that's like, kudos

1542
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 4: to him.

1543
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny.

1544
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 2: We met years ago when he was playing for another

1545
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 2: country act and I was playing for another country act,

1546
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 2: and it's just been fun to watch. Like when he

1547
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 2: got the Tailor gig, We're are like, oh, that's really cool. No,

1548
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 2: I mean he's been a drummer for that long. We're like, oh,

1549
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:04,479
Speaker 2: that's okay. Yeah, It's like, yeah, she's he's been there

1550
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 2: for i mean over ten years at this point, so

1551
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 2: it's a it's just kind of crazy to think, yeah,

1552
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 2: oh man, congrats, you got the Taylor gig.

1553
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 3: And now it's like, oh my god, you got the Yeah,

1554
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 3: that's that's just the way that world works.

1555
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 2: So I got to ask you as he's carried roads

1556
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 2: on Jason fitz on Fox Sports radio. I keep thinking

1557
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 2: about the middle class of the college football conferences, and

1558
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 2: particularly I'll use a couple of schools as an example here.

1559
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 2: If you are a fan of Auburn and the SEC

1560
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 2: or Tennessee, some years, you know, they seem to be

1561
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 2: up right now, but some years Florida. Some years, if

1562
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 2: you're a fan of Wisconsin, for example, Michigan State in

1563
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 2: the Big Ten, we're talking about schools that most years

1564
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 2: win you know, they're gonna win nine games, they're gonna

1565
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 2: be competitive. Every once in a while they might sneak

1566
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 2: up there, and somehow Michigan State finds a way to

1567
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 2: get into the playoffs, and we're like, wow, that's cool.

1568
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 2: You know, like that happens every once in a while.

1569
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 2: What is about to happen to those schools? Because it

1570
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 2: feels like the addition of Texas in Oklahoma, and then

1571
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 2: the addition of USC and Oregon and the Big Ten, you've.

1572
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 3: Got such powerful programs coming in.

1573
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 2: I think that there are a bunch of schools like

1574
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 2: Auburn that are going to have to accept a new

1575
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 2: reality of hey, we might only win seven or eight

1576
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 2: games most years, and we're just hopeful that every once

1577
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 2: in a while we can pop up for a playoff

1578
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 2: spot like that's a much different mentality.

1579
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll tell you this, that won't fly in Auburn,

1580
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 4: you know what I mean that that that new reality

1581
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 4: won't won't be won't be tolerated. So I'll say for them,

1582
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 4: they're going to have to find a way to to

1583
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:39,439
Speaker 4: to rise above the mediocrity that they've been that they've

1584
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 4: been under these last couple of years, because I mean,

1585
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 4: you talk about a team that's expected to perform and

1586
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 4: do well and the pressures of what the SEC brings

1587
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 4: and the lord and the glory that they have had

1588
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 4: at certain points, they that's their that's their standard, and

1589
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 4: so it's going to be hard for them to change.

1590
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 4: Now like a Michigan State, I I agree with you,

1591
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 4: they've had success and they and they're one of those

1592
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 4: teams that do you know, pop their heads out and

1593
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 4: could be competitive and win ten games at certain points.

1594
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 4: Their new reality is gonna be tough, and so as

1595
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 4: a fan of that program, you're gonna have to be

1596
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 4: patient and give those guys a little grace to be

1597
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 4: able to rise up. Because yeah, I mean adding some

1598
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 4: of the teams that they've added that the Oregans and

1599
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 4: those teams that have unlimited nil support. This is gonna

1600
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 4: be tough to compete with those guys.

1601
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:30,679
Speaker 2: Ye, well, I think about Wisconsin a place there. Man,

1602
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 2: let me tell you, I have had some party days

1603
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:36,600
Speaker 2: in Madison. I played some shows in Madison. I don't remember, so, Like,

1604
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 2: let's say, I love that place. But how is Wisconsin

1605
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 2: football even remotely gonna be relevant? It feels like in

1606
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 2: ten years, Wisconsin's gonna be Iowa, and Iowa's gonna be

1607
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 2: Vandy again.

1608
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 3: Vandy's gonna be, you.

1609
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:51,600
Speaker 2: Know, barely still playing college football. Like it's just the

1610
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:54,120
Speaker 2: trickle down of all of this just feels like for

1611
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 2: those programs. I mean, Camp Randall is such an incredible

1612
01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 2: vibe and experience. Will it be if they're winning six

1613
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 2: or seven games a year, because I think that's probably

1614
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:02,639
Speaker 2: way more accurate.

1615
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 4: It's very accurate, and I think that's I think what

1616
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 4: you just said. Though they have fun there, that is

1617
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 4: a fun place to play. The environment is the environment.

1618
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 4: I don't know if that changes just because of the

1619
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 4: history there, but if they're expecting a team to win

1620
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 4: ten games a year out of that conference with the

1621
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 4: way they recruit in the style of play that they have.

1622
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,680
Speaker 4: I think expectations will have to be tempered and I

1623
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 4: think there will be a new normal with those sames.

1624
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 2: So hit me with expectations for a second then, because

1625
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 2: right now in the college football land savment, I would

1626
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 2: make the argument that if a coach not named Nick

1627
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 2: Saban had had the same run of not being able

1628
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 2: to beat Georgia as an Alabama football coach, there would

1629
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:49,799
Speaker 2: have been hot seat conversation.

1630
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 3: I'm not saying there should have been.

1631
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 2: There just would have been because the way that fan

1632
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 2: base is, the way those boosters are us.

1633
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 3: But it was Saban and it was fine.

1634
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 2: So, like, I think the bor goes into a really

1635
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 2: difficult situation because nobody he likes to accept anything less

1636
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 2: than absolute perfection there, which I get. What I can't

1637
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 2: figure out is in a playoff system, is it going

1638
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 2: to be good enough that, hey, we've made the playoffs

1639
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:10,719
Speaker 2: four years in a row, or is it gonna Because

1640
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:13,719
Speaker 2: in the NFL, if you have a wildcard team every year,

1641
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 2: it's rare that you see a Marty Schottenheimer's situation where

1642
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 2: somebody gets fired. That's a wildcard winning coach, right, So,

1643
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 2: like our program is just going to be happy getting

1644
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 2: into the playoffs now or is it going to be

1645
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 2: Alabama Georgia one, you know, championship, championship, championship. So A

1646
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 2: and M is firing somebody because all they're doing is

1647
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 2: making the playoffs.

1648
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 4: With this new landscape, it could it making the playoff

1649
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 4: is probably going to be a big deal. And again

1650
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 4: with the conference realignment in the beginning, I think there

1651
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 4: will be a little grace there. It's just so it's

1652
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:50,719
Speaker 4: just such a conglomerate of teams and high profile teams

1653
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 4: in one pot and a limit still limited situation. So

1654
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 4: I could see it. I can see there being a

1655
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 4: little grace there to start. But I'll tell you one

1656
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 4: thing I mean that you know, the taking an Alabama

1657
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 4: job is that's just one of the that's one of

1658
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 4: the worst situations to step into that any coach could

1659
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 4: ever step into. I mean the history there, I mean

1660
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:14,639
Speaker 4: even before Saban, you know, you had coaches that, yeah,

1661
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 4: some of the best coaches in the world and in

1662
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 4: the history the Bear Bryan's of the world. Right, you

1663
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 4: have the legacy that's kind of attached to that. So

1664
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:24,799
Speaker 4: you have a Saban step in and kind of rewrite

1665
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:27,759
Speaker 4: even the name of what that entails as an Alabama

1666
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 4: football coach. So for another coach to step into that

1667
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 4: situation and you have to give them grace because you

1668
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 4: can't follow in those footsteps in the way that Saban

1669
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 4: did it. So I could see certain situations with certain

1670
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 4: teams has that. But again, at the end of the day,

1671
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 4: it's about winning, and it's about winning championships, especially in

1672
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 4: the SEC and so if you're not doing that, you

1673
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 4: won't have a job.

1674
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 3: Long the board feels like a sacrificial lander.

1675
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 4: It does. It does.

1676
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:54,800
Speaker 3: And like the funny thing.

1677
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 2: To me is I got to spend a little time

1678
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 2: with them at the National Championship game covering in for Yahoo.

1679
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:01,719
Speaker 2: And what really blew my mind, Like I was talking

1680
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 2: to him about a bunch of players told me and

1681
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 2: never yells. So I went to him and I'm like,

1682
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 2: is it true you never yell? And he said, well,

1683
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 2: I try not to ever raise my voice because I

1684
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:10,600
Speaker 2: want people to understand that you should be calm and

1685
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 2: cool under pressure no matter what, and yelling at these

1686
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 2: kids doesn't resonate with them.

1687
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 3: That's not the way I do business.

1688
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:18,719
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking about what it's like in that locker

1689
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 2: room when you're used to Saban and his style, and

1690
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 2: now you've got somebody that comes in with such a

1691
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 2: different style. And the reason I say it's a sacrificial

1692
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:28,599
Speaker 2: lamb is because Alabama can step back and say, hey,

1693
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 2: we hired the reigning coach of the year. We hired

1694
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 2: the best and the most qualified guy in the world.

1695
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 2: So when it doesn't we're got in a few years,

1696
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 2: it looks like you were smart and which did everybody

1697
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 2: parts ways, that just feels like inevitably where this is

1698
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 2: headed because you can't replace e Lecgen. Nobody's going to

1699
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 2: replace Bill Pelichick, right, Nobody's going to replace Nick Staban.

1700
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 2: There's just going to be stopgap coaches until the next

1701
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:48,839
Speaker 2: actual real.

1702
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 3: Coach comes in.

1703
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, and if you're taking the stuff further,

1704
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 4: he wasn't the number one option, right, so obviously you

1705
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 4: know that wasn't the course of action that they want

1706
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 4: to take. So you bringing a guy that, yes, he

1707
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 4: is the top candidate that we could pull in and

1708
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 4: it checks out on paper, It checks out with him

1709
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 4: having the Coach of the Year awards, So you're one

1710
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 4: hundred percent right, like you have you can say as

1711
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 4: a as a school, as a university, you can say

1712
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 4: to the boosters, this was the best possible hire. As

1713
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 4: you see the accolades are there, and then you know,

1714
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 4: if he fails, he fails, that's on him and it's

1715
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 4: not us.

1716
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just going to be a wild adjustment for

1717
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 2: schools like Auburn and Florida, Tennessee, all of these places

1718
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 2: when you find out suddenly, hey, with Oklahoma and Texas

1719
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 2: add it. You can't outspend them, right, you can't out

1720
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 2: facility in them. They will outdo you in every one

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01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 2: of those. So you better be able to outrecruit him.

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01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 2: But to outrecruit him in the modern world, you're going

1723
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 2: to have to outspend them.

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01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 3: At some level.

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01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 2: What is about to happen to college football, and what

1726
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:45,639
Speaker 2: I think is going to be the most exciting year

1727
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 2: in the history of the sport, is going to be

1728
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 2: absolutely wild. Speaking of football, a lot of conversations about

1729
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 2: hard knocks, and I'm not sure how much we can

1730
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:56,799
Speaker 2: actually take away from it, but there is one glaring

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01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 2: question that's already been raised from it. We will tell

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01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 2: you about it. We will answer next He's carry Roads.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jason fitz We're hanging out with you on Fox Sports.

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01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 3: Radio. He's carry Roads.

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01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 2: I'm Jason Fitz Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio, Carrie.

1736
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 2: I've said this a lot the last few days, so

1737
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:14,839
Speaker 2: I just have to say it again loudly.

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01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 3: Hard Knocks is a joke. The show should be called

1739
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:18,759
Speaker 3: Soft Knocks.

1740
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,680
Speaker 2: I'm a die hard, lifelong Raiders fan, Okay, so my

1741
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:26,760
Speaker 2: silver and Black blood is deep in my soul. And

1742
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 2: the year that Hard Knocks covered the Raiders' training camp

1743
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 2: was the year that Antonio Brown had his meltdown that

1744
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:34,479
Speaker 2: the entire world was covering except for Hard.

1745
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 3: Knocks, like they didn't show any of it.

1746
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 2: So I walked away from that and I said, shame

1747
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 2: on you NFL, shame on you for HBO, shame on

1748
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 2: everybody for watching it, because obviously their edit power allows

1749
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 2: them to make sure that they only show what they

1750
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:47,639
Speaker 2: want to show.

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01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 3: The show should be named Soft Knocks.

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01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 2: That being said, hard Knocks, this off season edition with

1753
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 2: the Giants is actually creating some stir as. We've gotten

1754
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 2: some insight into how they value Saquon with think of

1755
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones, Like I'm I for one, am a little

1756
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 2: stunned that knowing the league does have final letter approval

1757
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 2: and knowing teams are so secretive, I'm stunned that something

1758
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:12,599
Speaker 2: like a conversation about what the street value of Saquon

1759
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 2: would be would actually get its way onto air.

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01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that was a little bit of a pushback,

1761
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:22,559
Speaker 4: a little shot back at sa Quon. You know, on

1762
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 4: his exit out. You know, he was very open about

1763
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 4: you know, going to a contender and being able to

1764
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 4: show what he really had in a different uniform. And

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01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 4: so I think just the talk coming from him and

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01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 4: his camp on his way out this is another way.

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01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 4: This was a way for the Giants and their the organization,

1768
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 4: the people behind the scenes, to reassure their fan base

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01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 4: that you know, we we made the right decision and

1770
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 4: we want to put the power in this person that

1771
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 4: we just paid a lot a lot of money too

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01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 4: to let him be on showcase and show the fans

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01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 4: that we made the right decision. So I think it

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01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 4: was a little bit of a pushback, a little bit

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01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 4: of a shot from a veiled shot from the organization

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01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:01,600
Speaker 4: back at sa Quon, who kind of you know, go

1777
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 4: tick for tack there. That's what I felt when I

1778
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 4: saw it.

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01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 2: That's interesting perspective, and it makes me think that one

1780
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:09,680
Speaker 2: of my Buddies always says sometimes the toughest thing to

1781
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 2: say is nothing at all. It's the only thing you

1782
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 2: should say, like, yes, well, where's the win for the

1783
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 2: like I know you want to push back, like we

1784
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 2: we are in such a society of wanting to prove

1785
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 2: to the world that we are right. Yes, And I

1786
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 2: just don't understand it from an organizational standpoint. Taking the

1787
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 2: high road might not feel good and it might be frustrating,

1788
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 2: but there's no long term ramifications for.

1789
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:31,559
Speaker 3: It that in and of itself is actually a win.

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01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:33,760
Speaker 4: You're one hundred percent and that's the way it should be.

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01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 4: And I think when you put yourself in that position

1792
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:40,479
Speaker 4: to go ti tip for tat and prove your point,

1793
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 4: are you doing this showing other free agents and free

1794
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 4: agents and other players that you'll do the same thing

1795
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 4: to them? And so uh, you know, for them to

1796
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:50,559
Speaker 4: be that naive and think that you know, going tip

1797
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:53,880
Speaker 4: atat with a disc, a formal disc on a player

1798
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 4: is going to gain any traction or make you look

1799
01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:58,719
Speaker 4: appealing in any way, is just the wrong way to

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01:16:58,720 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 4: to to approach it.

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01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 2: Well, well, and what you're saying there, I think it's

1802
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:04,839
Speaker 2: important for so many people to think about for a second,

1803
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 2: because I've learned it lucky enough.

1804
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 3: To work with a lot of former NFL players, and the.

1805
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 2: Thing that you learn when you work with them is

1806
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 2: that there is a brotherhood the guys that played in

1807
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 2: the league. Like at a very real level, we as fans,

1808
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:17,679
Speaker 2: we sit here and say, I hate the b I'm

1809
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:19,719
Speaker 2: a Raiders fan, I hate the Broncos, but I also

1810
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 2: like my buddies with Max Crosby and he just did

1811
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 2: his pass Rus summit, right, And like that's guys from

1812
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 2: all over the league helping each other get better. Because

1813
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:29,639
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, players have a bond

1814
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 2: together with other players that really does resonate. So when

1815
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:35,880
Speaker 2: an organization goes after a player, there's a lot of

1816
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 2: collateral damage in the way the organization is perceived by

1817
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 2: the entire brotherhood of players that all love each other

1818
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 2: because they've all made it to that same level.

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01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the old adage of I know what you've

1820
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:47,959
Speaker 4: been through to get to where you're going. Like, players

1821
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 4: have that have that camaraderie, right, We've all put in

1822
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:54,599
Speaker 4: the hours, we've all worked really hard to get where

1823
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 4: we want to be and where we're trying to get

1824
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:59,679
Speaker 4: to and so there is a natural brotherhood that happens

1825
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 4: there obviously, But at the end of the day, I

1826
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 4: mean we talked about it early on in the show. Sometimes,

1827
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 4: you know, taking money or going to greener pastures or

1828
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 4: supersized supersedes that, and so I don't think it hurts

1829
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 4: from you know, certain players wanted to go and be

1830
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:19,880
Speaker 4: paid and do what they want to do. But when

1831
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 4: the relationship is one that's not an honest one and

1832
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 4: one that's again a naive or immature approach to it,

1833
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 4: that has that holds more credence than even even the

1834
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 4: money or the camaraderie comes well.

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01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 2: And part of that comes back to just the general

1836
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 2: like certain locker rooms have a tremendous bond. Certain organizations

1837
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 2: are always going to have to overpay to get people

1838
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:44,040
Speaker 2: to walk in the door because they're a dumpster fire.

1839
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 3: That's real.

1840
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 2: But if you want to have a great organization that's

1841
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 2: out there, that's like, man, we had something special in

1842
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 2: that locker room. It takes a special bond. And that

1843
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 2: special bond is not just amongst the players, it's from

1844
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 2: the organization of the players too. It's coaches to the players,

1845
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 2: like believing that everybody actually cares about each other on

1846
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 2: a human level. Is something that I think we don't

1847
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 2: cover enough when we talk about the teams that are

1848
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 2: successful and the giants aren't showing.

1849
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 4: That right one hundred percent. Yeah, I mean, you have

1850
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:10,000
Speaker 4: to trust the people you're going to war with. I mean,

1851
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 4: and I know we throw that word out there. I

1852
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:15,920
Speaker 4: mean it's the war part, but it is. It's a

1853
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:18,680
Speaker 4: war of attrition. It's a war of u you know,

1854
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 4: becoming really really really great friends and comrades on the battlefield,

1855
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 4: but also even in the locker room, in the studying

1856
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 4: rooms and all those things. All that stuff matters. Those

1857
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 4: relationships are big.

1858
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 2: It's a real concept. No matter what you do, I

1859
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:35,719
Speaker 2: don't care if you build spreadsheets. If you don't trust

1860
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:37,599
Speaker 2: the person to your left and your right to help

1861
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 2: you build the best spreadsheets ever, then the work of

1862
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 2: the entire organization suffers. So to me, While the giants

1863
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:45,160
Speaker 2: may be wanting to put this out there, I'm not

1864
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 2: sure it's really worth it. Carry man, it's been a

1865
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 2: blast hanging out with you, brother. Thanks for letting sit

1866
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 2: in the seat for a couple hours into getting to

1867
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 2: spend a little time you.

1868
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 4: No question Jason, I appreciate you man, thanks for coming on,

1869
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 4: and Dan, hurry up, come back, but we miss you y'all.

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Speaker 3: Stick around with Fox Sports Radio all day