WEBVTT - All Eyes On Me with Demetrius Shipp Jr. 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:03.360 I'm a little Duval and this is Conversations with the podcast. 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:07.440 Today's guest is best known for his role as Tupac 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:10.119 in the twenty seventeenth bio pick All Lives on me. 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:14.280 Let's welcome Dmetrious Ship Live and directly some boy little 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:16.720 Duval checking in one time for the one time, you 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:19.480 know you country cousin or your uncle, as I should say, 0:00:19.520 --> 0:00:21.600 for my podcast, because that's what it's all about, bringing 0:00:21.640 --> 0:00:24.079 them up, vibes, trying to quit, trying to put a 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:26.640 little healing in the ecosystem. And that's what I'm here, folks. 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:29.000 And I got a new guest here. You know, well, 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:31.440 he not a new guest, but he's a new guest 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:34.080 for for y'all because y'all ain't y'all ain't never seen 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:36.400 him on my podcast. Y'all probably don't know how cool 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:38.800 we are together. But just my man, y'all give it 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:41.440 up on Man Demetrius Ship, y'all. 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:42.839 Uh, what's the deal? 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:46.200 G ain't just over here vibing DC what you got 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:46.840 going over there? 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:48.040 Man Ship? 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:52.720 The same old you know, vibe Dcent myself Daddy due 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:53.760 the same old program. 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:57.800 Bro Dan the dude, you got kids? How many kids. 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:00.240 You gotta tell them many kids you got? Man had 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:03.400 three kids, bro, That's the reason why it took us 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:05.360 so long again on this goddamn show, because he's so 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:08.759 busy being a real dad, nigga being a good father 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:16.240 and his kids. Like yeah, three full time, hey, full 0:01:16.280 --> 0:01:16.840 of ship. 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:20.240 It was twice the show. 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:22.640 But ship man, you already know the kids that ship 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:25.160 many they be running running my ass low. 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:26.920 Bro, you know, you know what it is. So for 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:28.480 those of that don't know, let me give him a 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:30.520 little bit of history of who you are and what 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:32.440 got you to this point the way you are right now, 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:34.600 as far as in the in the success, as far 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:36.160 as acting and things with that nature. 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:41.200 Well, for you know, my introduction into acting was me 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:42.680 landing to lead. 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:45.880 Role and the you know, the film, the biopic All 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:46.319 Eyes On Me. 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:48.880 I played Tupac. That was your first deal. 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:53.640 Hell yeah, bro, I ain't never acted like that. Jumped 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:55.000 out the porch, bro, just like that? 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:59.840 Did it feels huh? Did it feel so real? Like? 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:02.600 Was it fast? Like not that you not that the 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:05.840 dust to settle and it's calmed down that looking back 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:08.799 that did you realize what was going on at the time? 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:10.320 Was it just like a blur. 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:14.600 Man, it's a so you're the first person I'm gonna 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:16.560 tell this part of it, like the story too. It's 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:19.040 like it was like a blessing and it was like, 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:20.200 it's like the gift and the curse, but. 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:22.079 I gotta give it to you real Like that's that. 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:23.560 That was the whole experience. 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:27.360 And I didn't realize how much like the blessing and 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:29.560 the gift part of it was. You know, I came 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:31.480 to do this role I got, you know, changed my 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:32.000 life around. 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:32.760 I'm entertainment. 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:33.760 I'm doing these things. 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:38.000 Life is evolving and changing so so drastically. I'm having fun. 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:42.359 I'm enjoying myself, you know what I'm saying. 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:45.880 In the process of filming, I fell in love with acting, 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:48.919 you know what I mean, Like it really became. 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:49.600 Something I loved. 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:53.080 I'm I'm on set learning about the cameras and the 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:56.120 angles and the dps and the sound different departments everything. 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:59.200 I fucking with all of the processes. But then there's 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:01.400 like the other part when my world just got turned 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:06.079 upside down, bro, Like my family dynamics shifted so drastically forever, bro. 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:10.520 And I was like when you say family man, when 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:13.320 they saw they saw you bigger than what you was 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:18.200 or they was. It wasn't even like uh damn. 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:20.600 So that's that the real detailed part of it is 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:24.480 like you know, my immediate fanly like my mom's pops, 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:27.040 like that, me and my dad fell out, and then 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:30.080 that trickled down into like everything else within my family 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:33.480 as well. You mean, like so because he had a 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:35.600 he played a part in me getting the role. So 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:39.040 there there's that aspect of it as far as you know, 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:41.560 him helping me get the roll through his connection and 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:44.640 knowing the producer of the movie and ship, and then 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:49.960 there's like the other things you know, the yeah, like 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:52.120 our relationship just drastically. 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:52.520 Changed, you know what I mean. 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:54.520 He was looking at me as a you know, an 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:58.240 avenue to a success for himself again in ways to 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:01.240 keep it short, uh, and then that just you know 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:03.680 a lot of things just crumbled from there in terms 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:05.960 of the fan, the immediate family dynamics, you know what 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:08.600 I mean. And also like you're saying, it was people 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:11.360 looking at me. It's just a lot of shit that happened, bro, 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:12.320 you know what I'm saying. 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:15.320 But honestly, you just went through what everybody go through 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:18.960 at the time, like, yeah, everybody you didn't going through 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:21.080 nothing different, So I don't see it as a bad thing. 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:23.080 I just I think you just got to understand how 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:25.520 to cope through and go through it because you ain't 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:27.400 going through shit. Nobody else ain't been through when they 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:30.960 first get one now, So I kind of got on 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:34.120 quick too when I first got on in the speedball. 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:35.839 But the blessing to me, I got a good family 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:37.920 that on trip off shit like that, So that was 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:38.640 plessing to me. 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:41.520 So there was there was that aspect of it, and 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:46.080 then there was like people that were also important to 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:49.560 me in the journey of me getting a role losing them. 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:51.960 You know what I'm saying in the ways that I did, 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:54.760 You know what I'm saying, Like my best friend who 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:56.600 recorded the very first. 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:57.640 Audition, I did it at his house. 0:04:57.640 --> 0:04:59.280 It's my best friend who I go across the street 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:01.960 to every day growing up across street with my grandparents, 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:05.480 Like every day I'm at this your house, he recorded. 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:07.719 He's the one that tells me, he convinces me to 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:09.320 do the role. I wasn't even about to go out 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:11.480 for the for the movie at all. I didn't even 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:13.919 think it was real to begin with so anyhow, his 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:15.920 mom and my mom like, that's that's just what it was. 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:19.840 Long story short, We go to see the movie on 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:21.200 the trailer, you know. 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:22.599 What I'm saying, for the first time. 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:25.719 It's premiered in front of john Wick two and in 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:28.599 the middle the trailer goes off and his mom was 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:31.800 in the hospital for something that was not major at 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:34.120 the time. But man, right after the trailer goes off, 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:36.800 within minutes they calling us. His mom is like pretty 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:40.480 much gone. So and then later on I went to London. 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:42.920 The flight I got on for London my cousin. So 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:44.840 all in all, it was just a lot of things. 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:47.160 I was like, damn, bro, what the like was this 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:47.840 thing a curse? 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:52.360 But it was every time something was but that's it, 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:53.920 yeah now for sure. 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:57.039 So every time something important was happening in the like 0:05:57.520 --> 0:06:00.080 all eyes on me, there was this other thing and 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:03.680 that was like like pulling or something drastic and major 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:05.839 was happening, and I was like, bro, So for a 0:06:05.839 --> 0:06:09.279 good while, I just was like I actually didn't even 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:13.160 notice until later. I was like I was very much 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:16.880 removed from that whole entire tupac thing. For me, I 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:18.760 was like, man, I'm going to the iddamn near was 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:20.840 like going in the house and just chilling and just 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:24.240 like you know, on some getting away from the getting 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:26.720 away from all of that tension for the most part 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:29.360 type shit. But then you know, my life kind of 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:32.080 went on. I was grateful to get all American. Bennie 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:34.400 Boom kind of plugged me, not even kind of he 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:36.960 plugged me with that for sure. He called me, you know, 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:38.560 I said, told me that he had something for me, 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:41.760 and I was only expected to do like a one 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:42.760 off one episode. 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:46.640 Ended up doing three I was supposed to do. 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:49.280 Then no, no, no, I got they wanted me for this 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:52.200 one off for the episode that he was filming, and 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:56.279 I couldn't do that because the showrunner at the time 0:06:56.320 --> 0:06:57.919 she wanted me for more. So she was like, now 0:06:57.960 --> 0:06:59.280 I want to bring you in for a little like 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:01.960 maybe three episodd and more long story show. With that, 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:05.440 I end up doing two seasons like fifteen episodes. And 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:09.520 that's the blessing that that cut through. The blessing of it, absolutely, man. 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:11.680 But let me ask you this, like, because I mean, 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:14.560 you're really into the into the acting in y'all, I 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:18.200 consider you're a real actor, not like these bullshit actors. 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:20.080 And so you right there in the meat of it, 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:22.000 in the in the hustle of it, in the grind 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:24.320 of it. How do you feel? What do you feel 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:27.280 about the industry right now as a whole as far 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:31.080 as acting and actors, not the producing part, just as 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:35.160 being an actor or actress, like in relative to the 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:38.200 strike or just where we are where y'all as a hold, 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:40.400 the strike is just part of all that shit, because 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:42.600 you wouldn't be having the strike if it wasn't where 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:45.640 where the climate is, as far as Hollywood is at now. 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:48.080 So that's why I'm asking you, what do you what 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:50.680 are you optimistic about? You festimistic? Like, what do you 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:53.680 see as far as I'm hello optimistic right now within 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:54.160 the industry? 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:56.480 And I feel like because of this strike, maybe there's 0:07:56.520 --> 0:07:59.760 some sort of like balancing that may have that will 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:03.480 now happen. You feel me, I'm both, I'm a little 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:06.040 bit of both optimistic in terms of like I feel like, 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:08.920 you know, the playing field I want to I don't 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:10.640 want to say it's getting even now, but I feel 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:11.200 like there's going to be. 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:13.560 A surplus of work right so. 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:18.600 Around So okay, cool, all right, So where you at, 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:21.080 I don't even know yet, but I so the fact 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:24.520 that the writers got what they were Like in favor 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:26.680 of the writers, they got what they wanted. I feel 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:29.040 like the actors may get the deal that they want 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:32.520 right So if that does happen, I feel like Hollywood 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:34.440 took an l on money, you know what I'm saying, 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:37.360 Like with all of the you know, the time off 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:41.079 and everything. So a lot of projects, from what I'm seeing, 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:43.880 looks like it's going to get like once it gets 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:47.720 back up and running, everybody gonna looking for content. Jobs 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:51.960 gonna be wide open. But the other looming issue to 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:56.480 me is the AI shit. So it's here and it's 0:08:56.520 --> 0:09:02.000 not going anywhere, and eventually what I imagine is that we 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:02.760 will land. 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:06.000 At a space where I feel like we're. 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:08.600 Just pushing off available and they just they just bird 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:10.839 theme until they get to that point like right now, 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:12.679 they don't have no choice to like go and give 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:15.360 them something right now, until we can grab a hold 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:17.080 of everything, kind of like what they did with social 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:20.280 media and everything else is just trying to figure out 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:22.520 how to monetize it and lock it in to where 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:25.439 they don't have to where they they you can't do nothing. 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:27.559 So now I mean this is my thing. I might 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:29.480 be wrong with their motherfucker don't listen to me because 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:31.559 I don't give a fuck about the shit enough to 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:34.200 be so in detail of it. But at the same time, 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:38.040 from just from my assessments, it just looks like, all right, 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:39.800 this give them something right now, and so we can 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:42.559 get off all these projects that you're talking about for 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:45.080 he'll knock them shits out. Then it's gonna be cause 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:48.720 like I just told today, I wasn't yesterday when Tom 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:52.960 Heiks was like this, mother, just use my likeness and 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:56.280 he the biggest He wasn't the biggest in the in 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:58.079 the shit in Hollywood. 0:09:59.440 --> 0:09:59.800 Damn. 0:10:00.840 --> 0:10:02.880 Oh, let me see it by the find I just 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:04.480 say so. 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:07.640 So that's where I'm at because I'm like, we're on 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:09.800 the same place as far as that, because it's only 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:10.400 a matter of time. 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:13.520 So it's there's a small window. I don't imagine like. 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:17.079 Three three four good real years of Hollywood like Max, 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:19.480 where this ship is kind of like on the same thing. 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:23.079 Because that AI shit is going, they're going to start 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:25.199 inserting it because it makes sense. 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:29.920 Not to cut you off. But ida Tom Hanks says 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:32.720 AI version of him used in a dental plan and 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:40.480 without consent. Yeah. See, so nigga be tom ain'ts nigga. 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:43.920 So listen, all right, let's say, and this is where 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:47.520 I'm saying, like, there's gonna be some choices that has 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:50.240 to be made, and it's probably gonna go in favor 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:52.440 of what you're talking about, right if you the rock 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:55.800 the Rock and film, he got movies lined up, you know, 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:58.040 all year long, right, but he can only do like 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:01.960 maybe Yeah, I'm a imagine his movie shots probably like 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:04.200 three month minimals. So let's say he doing three movies 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:07.880 a year, right, they what are getting like twenty thirty? 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:09.280 Like thirty? 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:11.680 He gotta be getting like twenty five at least. I 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:13.640 don't think he's doing it like that no more, because 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:17.040 at this point he gotta get a piece of the pie. Yeah, 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:21.240 the back end. Yeah, it'll only makes sense because the 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:24.120 studios don't make it up. Like what when't last time 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:25.959 you heard somebody get a big twenty million dollars check 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:29.800 just for acting? I don't know, because the box office 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:33.319 is back cracking. Though box office did ask my question, 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:36.679 when the last time you heard? Because they put out 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:38.640 all these shit all the time, such and such got 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:42.080 this amount of deal for this that's for this movie. Yeah, 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:43.120 I think that they did. 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:46.040 I think, all right, so let's say them those certain 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:48.640 echelon of people. I think they they did go in 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:51.560 and start like renegotiating to where they getting a piece 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:52.920 of the pile on the back. You know what I'm saying, 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:54.960 because it only makes sense, Like even me, I think 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:56.800 that was the thing that they started demanding, and they 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:59.240 kind of switched and switched it all up, like nah, 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:01.840 don't just get the twenty million in it gonna make 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:03.960 a billion, and only I'm stuck with that twenty you 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:04.320 feel me? 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:04.640 Right? 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:07.000 So I think that they did start wising up and like, 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:08.440 oh yeah, let me get a piece of that back 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:11.800 in too. But all that to say, my point is 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:15.760 if you're the rock and you're gonna make let's say 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:18.000 he gonna make a hundred million a year and he 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:21.480 worked in ten months out the year. Ai comes in, 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:25.520 Sony introduces Ai the Rock and says, look, the Rock, Dwayne, 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:29.840 We're gonna give you that same hundred million, and we 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:31.440 only need you to show up to set for two 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:37.079 months out the year. Does he and his peers at 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:39.679 that level do they take the check? You get what 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:42.679 I'm saying to let AI do their thing, or do 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:45.000 they like, now we reappreciate the craft, we want to 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:46.360 be there, blah blah blah. 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:49.680 How they look at to me, I think it depends 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:52.360 on how they see technology go because if they see 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:56.359 it like how we said, if we see the inevitable happenings, 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:59.080 what it's like, it's like everybody's telling they publishing that 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:01.720 they see ain't no money in the ship, so they 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:04.040 trying to cash out. So if he looking at as 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:07.160 a cash out deal, he's like, fucking all right, let 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:10.040 me go ahead. I'm about fifty some years old. Now 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:12.720 I go only do so many movies. Now, let me 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:15.079 go ahead and knock out twenty of these motherfucker movies 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:19.440 for twenty million apiece and ride out of the sunset exactly. 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:23.040 How does that help everybody else? Like y'all like you, 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:26.240 it don't, it don't. That's the thing. 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:28.240 It's winners and losers in this ship, and you better 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:29.480 figure out a way to be on the winter sh 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:30.079 That's not the. 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:31.800 Only thing I was like, and that's why I get 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:34.760 went back to the beginning. It's like, do you see 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:37.439 is it a good? Is it good? Is it good? Future? 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:41.480 For actors and actresses said, hell no, that shit is inevitable. 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:45.040 It's over with. So how do you know, how do 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:46.680 you prepare for it? How do you prepare for it? 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:48.600 Because I prepared for it twenty years ago because I 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:50.760 kind of saw it a long time ago. So I 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:54.480 kind of never leaned on Hollywood more so than I 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:57.160 just focused on the people. And that's why I'm meant 0:13:57.160 --> 0:13:59.320 why that's why I'm at right now. But now that 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:01.880 you see where it is, and so whether you how 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:03.880 do you prepare for it and set yourself up to 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:07.200 where because everything always changes, So how have you prepared 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:08.160 more than change for that? 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:11.720 So I am I am in a process like right 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:16.120 now diversifying and making myself as brandable as possible because 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:19.960 with that it's like, you know, you're gonna need ads, 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:22.680 You're gonna need commercials and so forth and so on, 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:26.480 like you can always attaching yourself to brands. You know, 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:31.000 it's a and especially with a lot of the abilities 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:32.640 that I have that I haven't even kind of like 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:35.600 done in the way of using them in terms of, uh, 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:39.760 for entertainment, you know what I mean. But there's two 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:44.040 ways I'm I'm trying. I'm finding ways to cleverly brand 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:48.920 myself so that I'm a thing that can you know, 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:51.680 be of, you know, be be around you know what 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:55.240 I'm saying. Time goes on, Yeah, exactly, just and then 0:14:55.320 --> 0:15:00.000 also on the other side though, figuring out and starting 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:04.560 things like a production company that I'm starting or I 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:06.320 started right now with a couple of friends of mine, 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:08.400 you know what I'm saying, started my own production company 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:10.520 with Actually it. 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:10.720 Is it's Dope High. 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:12.520 Came together because it's a good friend of mine who 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:16.080 I was in a movie with Kean Johnson and the 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:20.080 producer of that movie. We're starting a production company together, 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:23.560 you know what I mean. And interestingly enough, I hope 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:28.440 I can say shot it out. It's called Mumbo Mumbo, Inc. 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:32.200 So uh yeah. 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:35.080 Interestingly enough, one of the first things that we produced 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:39.080 and shot is a comedy special for I hope they 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:41.080 don't Friday for Jeremy Piven. 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:44.160 You don't want to put it out there, just let 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:44.680 me right cool. 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:47.520 Yeah, But Jeremy Piven is doing stand up comedy now, 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:49.840 and he's been doing it for a few years at 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:52.360 this point, but we produced his first you know, like 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:55.080 actual like stand up that's gonna I think it's gonna 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:57.440 live on like YouTube for to begin with. 0:15:57.520 --> 0:15:59.240 But yeah, we just did that like a month ago. 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:03.000 So like again, start my own production company stuff like 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:05.360 that that you know, you're still gonna need people to do. 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:07.200 You still need people to shoot some of these commercials. 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:09.840 Everything ain't gonna just be like super AI at the 0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:14.360 game and figuring out how I made my brand is connecting. 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:14.640 To people as well. 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:16.960 That's what I was gonna say, figuring out how my 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:21.200 brand keeps me tethered to the people, you know what 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:25.400 I'm saying, And so that way, you know, as time 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:27.800 goes on, I'm not just getting lost in the shuffle 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:30.800 and it's like, you know, everybody just AI at the 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:32.880 game and you know we is washed. 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:35.840 Let me ask you this, if they came to you 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:39.120 with with two point five and said we want to 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:45.080 buy your likeness. What you're doing? Ooh, what what you're 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:48.240 doing by wait? Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:49.440 on my whole. 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:53.640 Likeness like now you negotiate go ahead, yeah, nigga, my 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:54.480 whole likeness. 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:58.320 The same thing when we were just talking about what 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:01.000 you just said, the same thing you they give the 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:03.480 Rock the option. I didn't say twenty million because that 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:05.359 would be some bullshit because I do it for twenty 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:10.119 fifty million for you. I'm just trying to make it 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:14.760 more realistic. Two point five say, look, we need your 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:17.320 likeness and I'm gonna give you this. We need your 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:23.240 likeness for ten years. They don't know, they don't need 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:25.600 it for life. It's a publishing deal. That's pretty much 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:27.800 what they finished. Start doing publishing deals. 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:32.280 Damn too, that's exactly right, that's actually correct. 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:33.600 It is gonna be a publishing deal. 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:36.320 That's who stay woke. 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:41.240 Two point five for ten, I'm gonna have to negotiate 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:43.639 and I'm gonna have to bring that ten down now 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:45.320 nine ten. I think I'm gonna I think I can 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:47.639 do if I if I if the thing now, I'm 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:48.640 I'm gonna turn that down. 0:17:48.680 --> 0:17:51.159 Not ten years. I'm cool. I'm betting on me, straight up. 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:53.879 I'ma be real with you. I'm betting on me, all right. 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:58.119 We just talked about how how the industry ate that 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:00.399 ate that much money left in it will kind of 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:02.119 dry and this. 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:07.680 Is you know, yeah, no, it just depends history. Repeat yourself. So, yeah, 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:11.880 is drying up depending on where you put yourself. 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:15.320 But flipping like flipping like this. This is how I'm 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:18.440 looking at it. All Right, they use my likeness, they 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:21.719 could they gonna promote me free because they gotta promote 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:25.359 my likeness. Right, I got two forty five million, put 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:29.200 that in my production company, shoot my own right, piggyback ride, 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:32.639