Speaker 1: I'm a little Duval and this is Conversations with the podcast.
Speaker 1: Today's guest is best known for his role as Tupac
Speaker 1: in the twenty seventeenth bio pick All Lives on me.
Speaker 1: Let's welcome Dmetrious Ship Live and directly some boy little
Speaker 1: Duval checking in one time for the one time, you
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Speaker 1: for my podcast, because that's what it's all about, bringing
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Speaker 1: little healing in the ecosystem. And that's what I'm here, folks.
Speaker 1: And I got a new guest here. You know, well,
Speaker 1: he not a new guest, but he's a new guest
Speaker 1: for for y'all because y'all ain't y'all ain't never seen
Speaker 1: him on my podcast. Y'all probably don't know how cool
Speaker 1: we are together. But just my man, y'all give it
Speaker 1: up on Man Demetrius Ship, y'all.
Speaker 2: Uh, what's the deal?
Speaker 1: G ain't just over here vibing DC what you got
Speaker 1: going over there?
Speaker 2: Man Ship?
Speaker 3: The same old you know, vibe Dcent myself Daddy due
Speaker 3: the same old program.
Speaker 1: Bro Dan the dude, you got kids? How many kids.
Speaker 1: You gotta tell them many kids you got? Man had
Speaker 1: three kids, bro, That's the reason why it took us
Speaker 1: so long again on this goddamn show, because he's so
Speaker 1: busy being a real dad, nigga being a good father
Speaker 1: and his kids. Like yeah, three full time, hey, full
Speaker 1: of ship.
Speaker 2: It was twice the show.
Speaker 3: But ship man, you already know the kids that ship
Speaker 3: many they be running running my ass low.
Speaker 1: Bro, you know, you know what it is. So for
Speaker 1: those of that don't know, let me give him a
Speaker 1: little bit of history of who you are and what
Speaker 1: got you to this point the way you are right now,
Speaker 1: as far as in the in the success, as far
Speaker 1: as acting and things with that nature.
Speaker 2: Well, for you know, my introduction into acting was me
Speaker 2: landing to lead.
Speaker 3: Role and the you know, the film, the biopic All
Speaker 3: Eyes On Me.
Speaker 1: I played Tupac. That was your first deal.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, bro, I ain't never acted like that. Jumped
Speaker 2: out the porch, bro, just like that?
Speaker 1: Did it feels huh? Did it feel so real? Like?
Speaker 1: Was it fast? Like not that you not that the
Speaker 1: dust to settle and it's calmed down that looking back
Speaker 1: that did you realize what was going on at the time?
Speaker 1: Was it just like a blur.
Speaker 3: Man, it's a so you're the first person I'm gonna
Speaker 3: tell this part of it, like the story too. It's
Speaker 3: like it was like a blessing and it was like,
Speaker 3: it's like the gift and the curse, but.
Speaker 2: I gotta give it to you real Like that's that.
Speaker 2: That was the whole experience.
Speaker 3: And I didn't realize how much like the blessing and
Speaker 3: the gift part of it was. You know, I came
Speaker 3: to do this role I got, you know, changed my
Speaker 3: life around.
Speaker 2: I'm entertainment.
Speaker 1: I'm doing these things.
Speaker 2: Life is evolving and changing so so drastically. I'm having fun.
Speaker 2: I'm enjoying myself, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: In the process of filming, I fell in love with acting,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like it really became.
Speaker 1: Something I loved.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm on set learning about the cameras and the
Speaker 3: angles and the dps and the sound different departments everything.
Speaker 3: I fucking with all of the processes. But then there's
Speaker 3: like the other part when my world just got turned
Speaker 3: upside down, bro, Like my family dynamics shifted so drastically forever, bro.
Speaker 1: And I was like when you say family man, when
Speaker 1: they saw they saw you bigger than what you was
Speaker 1: or they was. It wasn't even like uh damn.
Speaker 3: So that's that the real detailed part of it is
Speaker 3: like you know, my immediate fanly like my mom's pops,
Speaker 3: like that, me and my dad fell out, and then
Speaker 3: that trickled down into like everything else within my family
Speaker 3: as well. You mean, like so because he had a
Speaker 3: he played a part in me getting the role. So
Speaker 3: there there's that aspect of it as far as you know,
Speaker 3: him helping me get the roll through his connection and
Speaker 3: knowing the producer of the movie and ship, and then
Speaker 3: there's like the other things you know, the yeah, like
Speaker 3: our relationship just drastically.
Speaker 1: Changed, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: He was looking at me as a you know, an
Speaker 3: avenue to a success for himself again in ways to
Speaker 3: keep it short, uh, and then that just you know
Speaker 3: a lot of things just crumbled from there in terms
Speaker 3: of the fan, the immediate family dynamics, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. And also like you're saying, it was people
Speaker 3: looking at me. It's just a lot of shit that happened, bro,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But honestly, you just went through what everybody go through
Speaker 1: at the time, like, yeah, everybody you didn't going through
Speaker 1: nothing different, So I don't see it as a bad thing.
Speaker 1: I just I think you just got to understand how
Speaker 1: to cope through and go through it because you ain't
Speaker 1: going through shit. Nobody else ain't been through when they
Speaker 1: first get one now, So I kind of got on
Speaker 1: quick too when I first got on in the speedball.
Speaker 1: But the blessing to me, I got a good family
Speaker 1: that on trip off shit like that, So that was
Speaker 1: plessing to me.
Speaker 3: So there was there was that aspect of it, and
Speaker 3: then there was like people that were also important to
Speaker 3: me in the journey of me getting a role losing them.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying in the ways that I did,
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like my best friend who
Speaker 3: recorded the very first.
Speaker 1: Audition, I did it at his house.
Speaker 3: It's my best friend who I go across the street
Speaker 3: to every day growing up across street with my grandparents,
Speaker 3: Like every day I'm at this your house, he recorded.
Speaker 3: He's the one that tells me, he convinces me to
Speaker 3: do the role. I wasn't even about to go out
Speaker 3: for the for the movie at all. I didn't even
Speaker 3: think it was real to begin with so anyhow, his
Speaker 3: mom and my mom like, that's that's just what it was.
Speaker 2: Long story short, We go to see the movie on
Speaker 2: the trailer, you know.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, for the first time.
Speaker 3: It's premiered in front of john Wick two and in
Speaker 3: the middle the trailer goes off and his mom was
Speaker 3: in the hospital for something that was not major at
Speaker 3: the time. But man, right after the trailer goes off,
Speaker 3: within minutes they calling us. His mom is like pretty
Speaker 3: much gone. So and then later on I went to London.
Speaker 3: The flight I got on for London my cousin. So
Speaker 3: all in all, it was just a lot of things.
Speaker 3: I was like, damn, bro, what the like was this
Speaker 3: thing a curse?
Speaker 1: But it was every time something was but that's it,
Speaker 1: yeah now for sure.
Speaker 3: So every time something important was happening in the like
Speaker 3: all eyes on me, there was this other thing and
Speaker 3: that was like like pulling or something drastic and major
Speaker 3: was happening, and I was like, bro, So for a
Speaker 3: good while, I just was like I actually didn't even
Speaker 3: notice until later. I was like I was very much
Speaker 3: removed from that whole entire tupac thing. For me, I
Speaker 3: was like, man, I'm going to the iddamn near was
Speaker 3: like going in the house and just chilling and just
Speaker 3: like you know, on some getting away from the getting
Speaker 3: away from all of that tension for the most part
Speaker 3: type shit. But then you know, my life kind of
Speaker 3: went on. I was grateful to get all American. Bennie
Speaker 3: Boom kind of plugged me, not even kind of he
Speaker 3: plugged me with that for sure. He called me, you know,
Speaker 3: I said, told me that he had something for me,
Speaker 3: and I was only expected to do like a one
Speaker 3: off one episode.
Speaker 2: Ended up doing three I was supposed to do.
Speaker 3: Then no, no, no, I got they wanted me for this
Speaker 3: one off for the episode that he was filming, and
Speaker 3: I couldn't do that because the showrunner at the time
Speaker 3: she wanted me for more. So she was like, now
Speaker 3: I want to bring you in for a little like
Speaker 3: maybe three episodd and more long story show. With that,
Speaker 3: I end up doing two seasons like fifteen episodes. And
Speaker 3: that's the blessing that that cut through. The blessing of it, absolutely, man.
Speaker 1: But let me ask you this, like, because I mean,
Speaker 1: you're really into the into the acting in y'all, I
Speaker 1: consider you're a real actor, not like these bullshit actors.
Speaker 1: And so you right there in the meat of it,
Speaker 1: in the in the hustle of it, in the grind
Speaker 1: of it. How do you feel? What do you feel
Speaker 1: about the industry right now as a whole as far
Speaker 1: as acting and actors, not the producing part, just as
Speaker 1: being an actor or actress, like in relative to the
Speaker 1: strike or just where we are where y'all as a hold,
Speaker 1: the strike is just part of all that shit, because
Speaker 1: you wouldn't be having the strike if it wasn't where
Speaker 1: where the climate is, as far as Hollywood is at now.
Speaker 1: So that's why I'm asking you, what do you what
Speaker 1: are you optimistic about? You festimistic? Like, what do you
Speaker 1: see as far as I'm hello optimistic right now within
Speaker 1: the industry?
Speaker 3: And I feel like because of this strike, maybe there's
Speaker 3: some sort of like balancing that may have that will
Speaker 3: now happen. You feel me, I'm both, I'm a little
Speaker 3: bit of both optimistic in terms of like I feel like,
Speaker 3: you know, the playing field I want to I don't
Speaker 3: want to say it's getting even now, but I feel
Speaker 3: like there's going to be.
Speaker 1: A surplus of work right so.
Speaker 3: Around So okay, cool, all right, So where you at,
Speaker 3: I don't even know yet, but I so the fact
Speaker 3: that the writers got what they were Like in favor
Speaker 3: of the writers, they got what they wanted. I feel
Speaker 3: like the actors may get the deal that they want
Speaker 3: right So if that does happen, I feel like Hollywood
Speaker 3: took an l on money, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: Like with all of the you know, the time off
Speaker 3: and everything. So a lot of projects, from what I'm seeing,
Speaker 3: looks like it's going to get like once it gets
Speaker 3: back up and running, everybody gonna looking for content. Jobs
Speaker 3: gonna be wide open. But the other looming issue to
Speaker 3: me is the AI shit. So it's here and it's
Speaker 3: not going anywhere, and eventually what I imagine is that we
Speaker 3: will land.
Speaker 2: At a space where I feel like we're.
Speaker 1: Just pushing off available and they just they just bird
Speaker 1: theme until they get to that point like right now,
Speaker 1: they don't have no choice to like go and give
Speaker 1: them something right now, until we can grab a hold
Speaker 1: of everything, kind of like what they did with social
Speaker 1: media and everything else is just trying to figure out
Speaker 1: how to monetize it and lock it in to where
Speaker 1: they don't have to where they they you can't do nothing.
Speaker 1: So now I mean this is my thing. I might
Speaker 1: be wrong with their motherfucker don't listen to me because
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck about the shit enough to
Speaker 1: be so in detail of it. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: from just from my assessments, it just looks like, all right,
Speaker 1: this give them something right now, and so we can
Speaker 1: get off all these projects that you're talking about for
Speaker 1: he'll knock them shits out. Then it's gonna be cause
Speaker 1: like I just told today, I wasn't yesterday when Tom
Speaker 1: Heiks was like this, mother, just use my likeness and
Speaker 1: he the biggest He wasn't the biggest in the in
Speaker 1: the shit in Hollywood.
Speaker 2: Damn.
Speaker 1: Oh, let me see it by the find I just
Speaker 1: say so.
Speaker 3: So that's where I'm at because I'm like, we're on
Speaker 3: the same place as far as that, because it's only
Speaker 3: a matter of time.
Speaker 2: So it's there's a small window. I don't imagine like.
Speaker 3: Three three four good real years of Hollywood like Max,
Speaker 3: where this ship is kind of like on the same thing.
Speaker 3: Because that AI shit is going, they're going to start
Speaker 3: inserting it because it makes sense.
Speaker 1: Not to cut you off. But ida Tom Hanks says
Speaker 1: AI version of him used in a dental plan and
Speaker 1: without consent. Yeah. See, so nigga be tom ain'ts nigga.
Speaker 3: So listen, all right, let's say, and this is where
Speaker 3: I'm saying, like, there's gonna be some choices that has
Speaker 3: to be made, and it's probably gonna go in favor
Speaker 3: of what you're talking about, right if you the rock
Speaker 3: the Rock and film, he got movies lined up, you know,
Speaker 3: all year long, right, but he can only do like
Speaker 3: maybe Yeah, I'm a imagine his movie shots probably like
Speaker 3: three month minimals. So let's say he doing three movies
Speaker 3: a year, right, they what are getting like twenty thirty?
Speaker 3: Like thirty?
Speaker 1: He gotta be getting like twenty five at least. I
Speaker 1: don't think he's doing it like that no more, because
Speaker 1: at this point he gotta get a piece of the pie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the back end. Yeah, it'll only makes sense because the
Speaker 1: studios don't make it up. Like what when't last time
Speaker 1: you heard somebody get a big twenty million dollars check
Speaker 1: just for acting? I don't know, because the box office
Speaker 1: is back cracking. Though box office did ask my question,
Speaker 1: when the last time you heard? Because they put out
Speaker 1: all these shit all the time, such and such got
Speaker 1: this amount of deal for this that's for this movie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that they did.
Speaker 3: I think, all right, so let's say them those certain
Speaker 3: echelon of people. I think they they did go in
Speaker 3: and start like renegotiating to where they getting a piece
Speaker 3: of the pile on the back. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: because it only makes sense, Like even me, I think
Speaker 3: that was the thing that they started demanding, and they
Speaker 3: kind of switched and switched it all up, like nah,
Speaker 3: don't just get the twenty million in it gonna make
Speaker 3: a billion, and only I'm stuck with that twenty you
Speaker 3: feel me?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: So I think that they did start wising up and like,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, let me get a piece of that back
Speaker 3: in too. But all that to say, my point is
Speaker 3: if you're the rock and you're gonna make let's say
Speaker 3: he gonna make a hundred million a year and he
Speaker 3: worked in ten months out the year. Ai comes in,
Speaker 3: Sony introduces Ai the Rock and says, look, the Rock, Dwayne,
Speaker 3: We're gonna give you that same hundred million, and we
Speaker 3: only need you to show up to set for two
Speaker 3: months out the year. Does he and his peers at
Speaker 3: that level do they take the check? You get what
Speaker 3: I'm saying to let AI do their thing, or do
Speaker 3: they like, now we reappreciate the craft, we want to
Speaker 3: be there, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: How they look at to me, I think it depends
Speaker 1: on how they see technology go because if they see
Speaker 1: it like how we said, if we see the inevitable happenings,
Speaker 1: what it's like, it's like everybody's telling they publishing that
Speaker 1: they see ain't no money in the ship, so they
Speaker 1: trying to cash out. So if he looking at as
Speaker 1: a cash out deal, he's like, fucking all right, let
Speaker 1: me go ahead. I'm about fifty some years old. Now
Speaker 1: I go only do so many movies. Now, let me
Speaker 1: go ahead and knock out twenty of these motherfucker movies
Speaker 1: for twenty million apiece and ride out of the sunset exactly.
Speaker 1: How does that help everybody else? Like y'all like you,
Speaker 1: it don't, it don't. That's the thing.
Speaker 3: It's winners and losers in this ship, and you better
Speaker 3: figure out a way to be on the winter sh
Speaker 3: That's not the.
Speaker 1: Only thing I was like, and that's why I get
Speaker 1: went back to the beginning. It's like, do you see
Speaker 1: is it a good? Is it good? Is it good? Future?
Speaker 1: For actors and actresses said, hell no, that shit is inevitable.
Speaker 1: It's over with. So how do you know, how do
Speaker 1: you prepare for it? How do you prepare for it?
Speaker 1: Because I prepared for it twenty years ago because I
Speaker 1: kind of saw it a long time ago. So I
Speaker 1: kind of never leaned on Hollywood more so than I
Speaker 1: just focused on the people. And that's why I'm meant
Speaker 1: why that's why I'm at right now. But now that
Speaker 1: you see where it is, and so whether you how
Speaker 1: do you prepare for it and set yourself up to
Speaker 1: where because everything always changes, So how have you prepared
Speaker 1: more than change for that?
Speaker 3: So I am I am in a process like right
Speaker 3: now diversifying and making myself as brandable as possible because
Speaker 3: with that it's like, you know, you're gonna need ads,
Speaker 3: You're gonna need commercials and so forth and so on,
Speaker 3: like you can always attaching yourself to brands. You know,
Speaker 3: it's a and especially with a lot of the abilities
Speaker 3: that I have that I haven't even kind of like
Speaker 3: done in the way of using them in terms of, uh,
Speaker 3: for entertainment, you know what I mean. But there's two
Speaker 3: ways I'm I'm trying. I'm finding ways to cleverly brand
Speaker 3: myself so that I'm a thing that can you know,
Speaker 3: be of, you know, be be around you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Time goes on, Yeah, exactly, just and then
Speaker 3: also on the other side though, figuring out and starting
Speaker 3: things like a production company that I'm starting or I
Speaker 3: started right now with a couple of friends of mine,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, started my own production company
Speaker 3: with Actually it.
Speaker 1: Is it's Dope High.
Speaker 3: Came together because it's a good friend of mine who
Speaker 3: I was in a movie with Kean Johnson and the
Speaker 3: producer of that movie. We're starting a production company together,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And interestingly enough, I hope
Speaker 3: I can say shot it out. It's called Mumbo Mumbo, Inc.
Speaker 1: So uh yeah.
Speaker 3: Interestingly enough, one of the first things that we produced
Speaker 3: and shot is a comedy special for I hope they
Speaker 3: don't Friday for Jeremy Piven.
Speaker 1: You don't want to put it out there, just let
Speaker 1: me right cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But Jeremy Piven is doing stand up comedy now,
Speaker 3: and he's been doing it for a few years at
Speaker 3: this point, but we produced his first you know, like
Speaker 3: actual like stand up that's gonna I think it's gonna
Speaker 3: live on like YouTube for to begin with.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we just did that like a month ago.
Speaker 3: So like again, start my own production company stuff like
Speaker 3: that that you know, you're still gonna need people to do.
Speaker 1: You still need people to shoot some of these commercials.
Speaker 3: Everything ain't gonna just be like super AI at the
Speaker 3: game and figuring out how I made my brand is connecting.
Speaker 1: To people as well.
Speaker 3: That's what I was gonna say, figuring out how my
Speaker 3: brand keeps me tethered to the people, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, And so that way, you know, as time
Speaker 3: goes on, I'm not just getting lost in the shuffle
Speaker 3: and it's like, you know, everybody just AI at the
Speaker 3: game and you know we is washed.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, if they came to you
Speaker 1: with with two point five and said we want to
Speaker 1: buy your likeness. What you're doing? Ooh, what what you're
Speaker 1: doing by wait? Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold
Speaker 1: on my whole.
Speaker 3: Likeness like now you negotiate go ahead, yeah, nigga, my
Speaker 3: whole likeness.
Speaker 1: The same thing when we were just talking about what
Speaker 1: you just said, the same thing you they give the
Speaker 1: Rock the option. I didn't say twenty million because that
Speaker 1: would be some bullshit because I do it for twenty
Speaker 1: fifty million for you. I'm just trying to make it
Speaker 1: more realistic. Two point five say, look, we need your
Speaker 1: likeness and I'm gonna give you this. We need your
Speaker 1: likeness for ten years. They don't know, they don't need
Speaker 1: it for life. It's a publishing deal. That's pretty much
Speaker 1: what they finished. Start doing publishing deals.
Speaker 3: Damn too, that's exactly right, that's actually correct.
Speaker 2: It is gonna be a publishing deal.
Speaker 1: That's who stay woke.
Speaker 3: Two point five for ten, I'm gonna have to negotiate
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna have to bring that ten down now
Speaker 3: nine ten. I think I'm gonna I think I can
Speaker 3: do if I if I if the thing now, I'm
Speaker 3: I'm gonna turn that down.
Speaker 1: Not ten years. I'm cool. I'm betting on me, straight up.
Speaker 1: I'ma be real with you. I'm betting on me, all right.
Speaker 1: We just talked about how how the industry ate that
Speaker 1: ate that much money left in it will kind of
Speaker 1: dry and this.
Speaker 3: Is you know, yeah, no, it just depends history. Repeat yourself. So, yeah,
Speaker 3: is drying up depending on where you put yourself.
Speaker 1: But flipping like flipping like this. This is how I'm
Speaker 1: looking at it. All Right, they use my likeness, they
Speaker 1: could they gonna promote me free because they gotta promote
Speaker 1: my likeness. Right, I got two forty five million, put
Speaker 1: that in my production company, shoot my own right, piggyback ride,
Speaker 1: and you get bigger after ten years, You're good. I
Speaker 1: mean ten years might be a lot. You might want
Speaker 1: to negotiate, that's what think. Yeah, that's a whole decade, bro,
Speaker 1: You're crazy.
Speaker 3: That's why I say that ten. I'm not fucking with that.
Speaker 3: Ten Nigga ten for two point five it's crazy. I
Speaker 3: gotta say that that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a lot. That is a lot. But
Speaker 1: I'm just trying because but it sounds like a lot
Speaker 1: of those the type of contracts these companies is yet.
Speaker 1: Think about it. In the music industry, they do ten
Speaker 1: album deals, so it ain't it ain't far fetched, and
Speaker 1: they doing it for less than two point five. Trust me,
Speaker 1: they act like they're getting all that money up front.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. They talking about how much
Speaker 1: they gonna put into the project two point five million,
Speaker 1: So they don't. I just it can't make sense. It
Speaker 1: just gotta you just gotta make it so all to
Speaker 1: your point, here's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: There are gonna be people that take that deal and
Speaker 3: that's what's going to saturate and water to market in
Speaker 3: the industry down because it's gonna be like.
Speaker 1: Two for ten years. Give it to me, so you know.
Speaker 1: And that's another thing. It's kind of like, it's kind
Speaker 1: of like what to be doing with with with with
Speaker 1: movies now, it's like ship. You don't want to go
Speaker 1: over there with ship. They give you the good look,
Speaker 1: the good percentages and everything else it makes Honestly, Tube
Speaker 1: is just doing Netflix used to be just like that.
Speaker 1: It's just people forgot by their group. They use niggas
Speaker 1: to build to build a network once everything. That's how.
Speaker 1: But it's not a bad thing though. You just gotta
Speaker 1: understand your place in the game. If you understand your
Speaker 1: place in the game, you can finessing and make it
Speaker 1: and make it bigger and do your old day. That's
Speaker 1: all Tyler Perry and people like that. Dude, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, that's.
Speaker 3: So so okay cool about TV movies.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you that from an active standpoint, how
Speaker 1: you feel about to because well, I ain't watching the movie.
Speaker 3: I ain't watch the TV movie, so I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: I don't have no like distinct answer, no depinion of
Speaker 3: it because I ain't watching nothing.
Speaker 1: Let me DoD you thought it. Cooby has got better, bro,
Speaker 1: They're getting better. You gotta go what David Wallams just
Speaker 1: did a show that WI him and I forgot the
Speaker 1: girl that played the young girl that plays on the power, uh,
Speaker 1: the one the power that's uh that Mary J Bligoe.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's so real. She the young girl.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about, the young black girl.
Speaker 1: I don't even know well the way she she she
Speaker 1: Oh there, it's it's it's written three did it getting better?
Speaker 1: It's getting right in but in boom whatever.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's somebody need to start putting into my you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying into my things of to what
Speaker 3: to watch out for.
Speaker 1: It. It's the perfect time to do it while they
Speaker 1: open to anything. You know what I'm saying you gotta
Speaker 1: do is bring something good exactly all right? Cool?
Speaker 3: So I was about there. I was about to ask
Speaker 3: you that question. So that's the other thing about where
Speaker 3: entertainment is. This is music and film and television.
Speaker 1: Right or filming, Yeah, movies and TV.
Speaker 3: I'm like the quality amongst everything, especially the music is
Speaker 3: so bad.
Speaker 1: I feel like.
Speaker 3: The don't make real quality comes about, real talent comes about.
Speaker 2: It's going to emergent.
Speaker 1: It's going to like blow up.
Speaker 2: That's where I feel now. That's my question to you.
Speaker 3: Do you feel like we're in such a space now
Speaker 3: within entertainment that when real talent is, you know, emerges,
Speaker 3: that it'll be appreciated and recognized as such and it
Speaker 3: will go to that those next, you know, those higher.
Speaker 1: I think real talent. I think real talent already. I
Speaker 1: just think the audience don't care enough how we want
Speaker 1: them to care. You got to sneak talent on the
Speaker 1: on the consumer. They don't care enough about it. They
Speaker 1: just consuming. So that's why sometimes you don't realize it afterwards,
Speaker 1: like man, this muffler, muffle got some shit, this muffled
Speaker 1: Like say, this is like somebody like j Cole's or
Speaker 1: Kendrick Lamar. They really talented and they show it the
Speaker 1: more and more you listen to them, But you didn't
Speaker 1: really give a fuck. You just was going about the
Speaker 1: it song at first. Are you just love them for
Speaker 1: who they are? So I feel like I feel like
Speaker 1: it's plenty of talented muffler that's like you you a
Speaker 1: talented that dude, you know what I'm say saying, but
Speaker 1: you ain't where you want to be. But so so
Speaker 1: I just feel like it's tailor out there's just and
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like.
Speaker 3: Well, hold on, hold on, hold music though music is entertainment,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, movie see me all that.
Speaker 3: You're right, I can rock with you there because it
Speaker 3: is a lot of people getting down. I actually got
Speaker 3: to switch that. It's a lot of people that's on
Speaker 3: like on on the screen that get down. Music though
Speaker 3: music is man, I ain't rolling with that.
Speaker 1: Music is tracking. It's a lot of good music out here.
Speaker 3: You gotta send me some ship thing, bro, because I've
Speaker 3: been I one.
Speaker 1: Good not the two ball. Hold but I ain't making
Speaker 1: a bad song yet. But they take me out to
Speaker 1: tech for real, take me out to the cooin for real,
Speaker 1: because it's it'll be biased, but it's a lot of
Speaker 1: good talent that. It's a lot of good music out here.
Speaker 1: I send you some ship. It's a lot of good
Speaker 1: ship out you just gotta look it and all five
Speaker 1: you know, like me right now, I like music without
Speaker 1: without lyrics. I listened to a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of a lot of that's South African music.
Speaker 1: Yeah what I play. Yeah, that's like it's kind of
Speaker 1: like a it's kind of like an idiom but uh
Speaker 1: African vibe. It's hard to explain, but it's it's I
Speaker 1: forgot you're making that you're making. It's everything's reggae, it's
Speaker 1: everything all messed and one, but it's no lyrics. Now,
Speaker 1: it's not for them. I mean they had a little
Speaker 1: lips like blah blah blah ship like that blah blah
Speaker 1: blah ship Like, man, you had me at first, I
Speaker 1: wanted to hear it now, hold on, hold on, you
Speaker 1: had me at first. I was interested, like I need
Speaker 1: to when you do, it's one of my favorite songs.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you did. It's a low and
Speaker 1: they song below that ship is really for the club.
Speaker 4: Hold on oh okay yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 4: rock with that.
Speaker 1: I rock with that, Okay, yeah yeah, I rock with that.
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 3: I heard some ship like that in like Dubai and
Speaker 3: I Care and it was yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Because when you.
Speaker 3: It's it's like a, it's a it ain't like so
Speaker 3: much of a lyrical thing. It's more of a beyond
Speaker 3: like ship. Yea, I'm gonna see you that that ship hard.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this.
Speaker 3: Then, how did you feel about the Drake.
Speaker 1: Honesty never mind? I mean, but bro, it's just a song.
Speaker 1: He just threw out a song with Drake Drake? Is
Speaker 1: you can't the album? That's about the album? Oh, the
Speaker 1: whole album? Yea, my whole album. It's just another one,
Speaker 1: just game.
Speaker 3: I thought, no, no, no, no, the honesty never mind,
Speaker 3: the one that was like the you know, the I
Speaker 3: don't want to say that.
Speaker 1: What would we called it? What will we classify that
Speaker 1: as a mix? It's like it's like dance. Ain't that Oh?
Speaker 1: Oh that one? No? I liked that? Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: I knew you would. I knew you would. No, that
Speaker 1: is yacht music. That's both music. Man, come on now
Speaker 1: talking about why I'm bad? Nah?
Speaker 3: Okay, so you know what I feel that? So I'm
Speaker 3: definitely on some like a rap to me, I'll say
Speaker 3: this for sure, a rap.
Speaker 1: I'm cool. So who are you listening to? Since who
Speaker 1: you listening to?
Speaker 3: Everything right here is is old, bro, I thought that honestly,
Speaker 3: never mind knowing about four times a week noo' lenna
Speaker 3: tell you that for the sure. Uh you know, my
Speaker 3: favorite artist is still a Lena Barage.
Speaker 1: She just dropped some ship.
Speaker 3: I tacked in with Travis Scott album a couple of joints.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I know you fuck with
Speaker 1: Gunnan album. Gun Out was cool, but gun Out was cool,
Speaker 1: but I think Gunner was more so of everything that
Speaker 1: was going on. So that built up the anticipation and
Speaker 1: all that ship right right right now.
Speaker 4: The fact I hate you earlier this year about my
Speaker 4: my r D compilation that I was putting together.
Speaker 1: Remember, uh remember, nigga, I told you that. I don't remember.
Speaker 1: I don't remember. I don't remember.
Speaker 3: I called you and I talked to you about doing it,
Speaker 3: and you were gonna do like the Midnight Like.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm doing that for you because you're a dog.
Speaker 1: So yeah.
Speaker 2: So no, My point is now we can we can
Speaker 2: work on doing this one.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Doing that together type ship since you were left off
Speaker 3: the DNY album means you could put ours together.
Speaker 1: We could do our ship together. You know, just compared
Speaker 1: yourself to Dinny. Since you're gonna do it the Didny,
Speaker 1: you matter what do it with me? Hey? I got that, Like,
Speaker 1: since you don't do a deal with Eli Musk, you
Speaker 1: matter what do with me? Hey? Look, we we put
Speaker 1: some ship together.
Speaker 3: I feel like our ship, like especially with the idea
Speaker 3: of you talking through that, That's what it was.
Speaker 1: That's what I was talking to you about. You was
Speaker 1: gonna talk through.
Speaker 2: The whole album, like the intros and outros, a lot
Speaker 2: of all of the songs.
Speaker 1: I'm with whatever you want to do, man, Like, just
Speaker 1: let me know when you want to do it. I'm
Speaker 1: with it. So you got to arn so you so
Speaker 1: you got to let them know about your R and
Speaker 1: B ship because they don't know them. Oh man.
Speaker 2: So that's the part of me that you know.
Speaker 3: I came up in the game. Like I've been in
Speaker 3: music my whole life. So my my postures are producer.
Speaker 3: So I've been in I've been seeing music. My postures
Speaker 3: are part of truth, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean?
Speaker 2: So I that's the world.
Speaker 1: Truth, nigga.
Speaker 2: The last one, the last album, I don't let me go.
Speaker 1: Look at this ship, hold up the truth.
Speaker 3: The very last one was Steve. It was only Stem
Speaker 3: out of my pops.
Speaker 1: All I do is think of you.
Speaker 3: No no, no no.
Speaker 1: That that not that album. That's the other joints wings.
Speaker 1: If like song, I know you're probably not gonna know
Speaker 1: to the song, but it was a lost album. Okay. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But Post was always right producing. He did, you know,
Speaker 3: a lot of music with He worked with Teddy Early,
Speaker 3: he worked with He was working with Steve, he worked
Speaker 3: with He did a lot of reget everything. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: was born in this ship. So that's my my love
Speaker 3: and passion for music being been there, feel me and
Speaker 3: then I've gone on myself to work with different artists that.
Speaker 1: I talk about.
Speaker 3: You showed the world because I this is the other
Speaker 3: interesting thing about me, right, I never wanted to be
Speaker 3: like a person, you know what I'm saying, like a celebrity.
Speaker 3: I never wanted to be a person that was a
Speaker 3: figure or a name that you like, had to put
Speaker 3: a fake that you could put a face to, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Type ship I really wanted to be.
Speaker 3: You know't You probably don't know me.
Speaker 1: His producer named sound Way, but he's Kendrick Lamar's producer.
Speaker 3: That's the type of career I was aiming for in
Speaker 3: terms of like successful music.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, entertainment.
Speaker 1: Was like being a really really dope ass producer. You
Speaker 1: knew me? Yeah, if you knew me, you knew me,
Speaker 1: you could don't cool.
Speaker 3: Like I've been in concerts and walk right right up
Speaker 3: to Soundway said what's up or whatever? And everybody around
Speaker 3: has no idea that this nigga curated all of the sounds.
Speaker 2: What everything that Kendrick Lamart does sound Way do is
Speaker 2: the guy?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: So that's what I was, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I always approach music from that standpoint.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be out and I'm still probably
Speaker 1: That's what famus So nigga. Now I'm like cool, here
Speaker 1: we are.
Speaker 3: Now, how do I capitalize on all of you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, the famous and celebrity with the talents.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, everything that I've accomplished, Now,
Speaker 3: how do I advance that and use it to my
Speaker 3: benefit and make you know, make that into my brand?
Speaker 1: So what are you planning on doing? Because I mean,
Speaker 1: I know you got plenty of music. You just sound
Speaker 1: like you're scared. Oh no, hell no, I scared. You
Speaker 1: sound like why are you saying you post nothing on
Speaker 1: your social media about your music. I know you and
Speaker 1: and all the time you probably told me that and
Speaker 1: I just said yeah, because I fuck with you, but
Speaker 1: I don't. I ain't heard that one song. Well it's
Speaker 1: not me singing, first of all, so well whatever it is,
Speaker 1: Rappings singing, that's the thing. So it's producing, yeah, nigga,
Speaker 1: while you ain't send me no beats ever produced? Here, nigga,
Speaker 1: here man, that's on this show. If you're a producer,
Speaker 1: that's just like my cousin Jehan. My cousin Jehan. He
Speaker 1: kind of like said, wait, you gotta know him to
Speaker 1: know him. But this nigga got music with Taylor Swift Drake,
Speaker 1: he got everybody. Yeah, this nigga's Yeah.
Speaker 3: Jahann's whole come up was hard, bro, because it was
Speaker 3: like if motherfuckers paid attention.
Speaker 1: You been posting and trying what I'm saying, showing him
Speaker 1: love you watching.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that ship, That ship is incredible, and you could
Speaker 3: tell it was organic as well, like it wasn't no
Speaker 3: like whoa.
Speaker 1: That's the crazy point. I'm proud of it because for one,
Speaker 1: he did it all on his own. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and too, he listened, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: not just to me, he listened to He listened to
Speaker 1: the right people, you know what I'm saying. So when
Speaker 1: he fuck up, if he if he know he fuck up,
Speaker 1: he can stand as straighten because you can tell everybody,
Speaker 1: you can tell everybody the same ship, but it don't
Speaker 1: go through. So you gotta give him. And he's actually
Speaker 1: talented and that's what he's that's the that's the best
Speaker 1: part of it because just like we were saying before,
Speaker 1: like it feels like talent ain't getting shown no love
Speaker 1: no more. But he's a prime example that the kream
Speaker 1: rides to the top. You know what I'm saying, People
Speaker 1: like yeah, you know, people like Bresha. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I like watching her grow, you see what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, how she blossom not just in not just
Speaker 1: in a in a business, in a in a uh
Speaker 1: in a in a business, in a career, but also
Speaker 1: in a personal.
Speaker 2: Life right right, Yeah, that's fire exactly.
Speaker 1: So you see, if you see good people win, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, just to see you win it.
Speaker 1: I love to see it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Every time if I'm flipping through the challenges because you
Speaker 1: don't call me and tell me, hey man, I just
Speaker 1: think that's just a man ship because we just don't
Speaker 1: like to do ship certain ship. But you can call
Speaker 1: me and say, hey man, I'm all such and such,
Speaker 1: shot me out and stuff like that there and I
Speaker 1: don't give a fun specially by fuck with you, but
Speaker 1: you gotta left me. So that's the thing too.
Speaker 3: So it's I feel like the last few years has
Speaker 3: been me figuring out how to go about doing all
Speaker 3: of these things. So that's that's where it really has
Speaker 3: come down to me, is like, uh, how am I
Speaker 3: going to be in music? How am I going to
Speaker 3: you know, also be because it's if you look at it,
Speaker 3: like not many people simultaneously do both at the same time.
Speaker 1: At a high level.
Speaker 2: You're either like doing and one really well and the
Speaker 2: other one.
Speaker 3: Is like you know, everybody that came into acting from music,
Speaker 3: they acting their music career always since.
Speaker 1: How you feel about doing pretty good?
Speaker 3: So that's fire you feel me because he kind of
Speaker 3: like switched over exactly, like he's definitely been able to
Speaker 3: He's he's crossed over and he stayed at it. He's
Speaker 3: stay consistent. So it's it's been me really taking the
Speaker 3: last I would say, three years to just like, all right,
Speaker 3: how am I going to make myself as brandable as possible?
Speaker 3: What is the things that I'm that I like doing?
Speaker 3: What are the things that not only do I like
Speaker 3: doing though that people are responsive to? You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, And that makes sense for me to do.
Speaker 3: And I feel like now I really have a real
Speaker 3: great plan on how to have.
Speaker 1: You looked into roles where you're playing the musical artist. Bro,
Speaker 1: That's why that's crazy. I would love love to do
Speaker 1: something like that. Like I made a joke.
Speaker 2: One time playing like.
Speaker 3: Said I would I would play because I had these
Speaker 3: chops on set somewhere, these big as uh you know,
Speaker 3: the chops of the sideburns, yuh. And I I made
Speaker 3: a joke like, yeah, I'm gonna play. I'm gonna play
Speaker 3: ron Eisley or or Marvin Gay or some ship. But
Speaker 3: I would love to do that because I play piano,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I would love I mean, like, of course you
Speaker 1: want to get a bigger role, but if you do,
Speaker 1: it's like auditioning for a role like that just set
Speaker 1: up yours. You got a production company, set up your
Speaker 1: own skins, and post that ship all your pages exactly.
Speaker 1: So that's one of the things that I'm that way
Speaker 1: you slowly but surely, your audience they they by the
Speaker 1: time if you do get the movie is organically happen
Speaker 1: kind of like like Jamie Fox, he organically happen to
Speaker 1: do it. It just naturally. He's not even thinking, is
Speaker 1: he an actor? A saying kind of like me, they
Speaker 1: don't think like at first they did, but now with
Speaker 1: like go the bus shows, they expected both.
Speaker 2: They expected yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: But you have to you have to put the you
Speaker 1: have to do it yourself, like you gotta take the
Speaker 1: first initiative to do it. It's gonna feel weird, it's
Speaker 1: gonna feel cord now, niggas says ship like, oh lord,
Speaker 1: here he goes saying it. But nigga, now if you
Speaker 1: just doing it. But what you're what you're saying is
Speaker 1: is pure.
Speaker 3: I take it as nothing more, nothing less than confirmation, bro,
Speaker 3: because that's exactly you're saying.
Speaker 1: All right, you got to integrate it and roll it
Speaker 1: out on your own.
Speaker 3: So that's exactly what the last like I said a
Speaker 3: few years have been for me to like, all right,
Speaker 3: how am I gonna do this? How am I gonna
Speaker 3: introduce this as a part of who I am and
Speaker 3: what I for the world to receive it as such,
Speaker 3: and then for things to start moving in that, you
Speaker 3: know what, in that space like I and I'm I
Speaker 3: have a lot of ideas and things that I'm going
Speaker 3: to start doing and rolling out via social media that
Speaker 3: will put me in a place of people receiving it
Speaker 3: and seeing me as you know, oh, somebody who is
Speaker 3: just more than an actor who has musicianship to them.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3: Because I do I do that and I play the drums,
Speaker 3: is well, I'm a natural drummer. That's what I started
Speaker 3: off with, you feel me? So I play drums and
Speaker 3: I played the piano. So all of those things I
Speaker 3: plan on very creatively rolling out and so that people
Speaker 3: start to like receive.
Speaker 1: That your music, because I wouldn't hear how you play?
Speaker 1: Would I would hear you play your old keys? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I play my Yeah, nigga, I can play for the show.
Speaker 1: You ain't fucking with your HND man, Oh no, hell no,
Speaker 1: I ain't crazy. But if I get lessons, if I
Speaker 1: get some lessons. I'll tell you a story and I
Speaker 1: can with the Juilliard. Oh yeah, he cold.
Speaker 3: I didn't heart him play for sure, Like I didn't
Speaker 3: see the family thing, the family functions. Shit, I see
Speaker 3: a nigga, you're high ge there you cold? But I
Speaker 3: knew I had something. And it's funny because last year,
Speaker 3: like last year, October like ended October, I ended up
Speaker 3: at doctor Dre house because I messed with like his
Speaker 3: sister is my people's right, so shout out to them.
Speaker 3: But we was I was in the crib chilling and
Speaker 3: and basically we got into the conversation to playing and
Speaker 3: I ended.
Speaker 2: Up playing for Drake and this is one of the
Speaker 2: most dopest moments of my life.
Speaker 3: He was like it nah, somebody recorded it, but they
Speaker 3: like Drey not letting no footage go, Like no, I see,
Speaker 3: I see one day it's gonna make it out for sure,
Speaker 3: And shout out my bro mark A.
Speaker 1: The pictures in the videos. He has them, so you
Speaker 1: know he like Broke Drey and you know he very.
Speaker 2: Particular about how he gonna let shit roll out whatever.
Speaker 2: Someday we'll see it.
Speaker 3: But basically I was playing and Dre was like caught
Speaker 3: off guard and I was telling him I taught myself.
Speaker 2: And it came a moment where I was playing to
Speaker 2: the point Dre was like, hey, nigga.
Speaker 1: Like are you fucking with me? He's like, you better
Speaker 1: fuck with me? Like you really don't know how to
Speaker 1: play like that? He like, you really taught yourself.
Speaker 3: Because I was telling him like I don't know the
Speaker 3: the keys and all of that, but the way I
Speaker 3: play this, you know what I'm saying, He's definitely something
Speaker 3: that just not like an amateur for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So all and then he told me, he went
Speaker 1: on to tem like you gotta do something with that,
Speaker 1: So that stuck with me. I think that's the first
Speaker 1: thing you should do on your social media. Just play
Speaker 1: something freestyle on the keyboard that because for one, women
Speaker 1: are open to that. You're gonna get all types of bitches,
Speaker 1: and I mean women, you'll get all types of women.
Speaker 1: Open up the door, so that show the show. Oh
Speaker 1: he's musically talented too, right, I think you should show
Speaker 1: some of that, just that part of it, and that'll
Speaker 1: open the door to show. All right, he's musically inclined
Speaker 1: because you because you gotta think about piano. You can't
Speaker 1: fake that, right for sure. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You got all type people to get up there and
Speaker 1: saying or get a beat. You can could pose you
Speaker 1: could you could build a song in the studio. That
Speaker 1: keyboard is showing your that that piano showing your row talent.
Speaker 1: So I think show that that's the best way to
Speaker 1: introduce them to all right, I'm d shipped the goddamn
Speaker 1: the entertainer.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's part of playing SI video.
Speaker 1: Old boy did is crazy, Bron, which was where he
Speaker 1: the one where uh where he did the uh the
Speaker 1: comparison to you with the with the with the car. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's funny as fuck though, that's shit.
Speaker 2: Funny as hell, Bron.
Speaker 1: That's funny as fuck. All right, we're gonna wrap it up.
Speaker 1: But before I wrap it up, I give everybody one
Speaker 1: more time, one more question that asks me ask, oh
Speaker 1: that you always wanted to ask somebody, but you ain't
Speaker 1: have nobody to ask. I'm right here, so you get
Speaker 1: to ask me something right now, nigga.
Speaker 3: So go ahead, all right, just gonna suck you up. Okay,
Speaker 3: damn No, it's not because you roll like that. I
Speaker 3: will ask you about liking polygamy and ship Okay, would
Speaker 3: you be so? Would you if you had it? How
Speaker 3: you you know what I'm saying. If the if the
Speaker 3: if the bread and everything was.
Speaker 1: Butter like you needed it to, would you do polygamy?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do it. There can, but it's not so much.
Speaker 1: But see my my definition, it's a little different. Like
Speaker 1: I like having the old lady and and we just
Speaker 1: like having fun with with other girls. That's to me,
Speaker 1: that's I'm cool with that. And we might have people
Speaker 1: we cool with that were tight with and that's what
Speaker 1: we kick it with. But all that happened, you gotta understand,
Speaker 1: like having a bunch of women, that's that's a that's
Speaker 1: a headache. Like that's why I never really like when
Speaker 1: I did cheat, I just used to fuck. I ain't
Speaker 1: had no girlfriends, Like yay, I'm not girlfriends. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have one old lady and all my all my side
Speaker 1: bitch is gonna know my old lady. And that's what
Speaker 1: So every time I got caught, my old lady was looking.
Speaker 1: So I'm never one of them niggas that's gonna have
Speaker 1: a bunch of relationship. But I understand it, Like I
Speaker 1: feel like you should handle it as much as you
Speaker 1: can afford and as much you can have this mentally.
Speaker 3: Okay, hold on, I got another question, because strong up
Speaker 3: all right with the with with AI going like it's going,
Speaker 3: and with us seeing black mirror right, and it's so
Speaker 3: much shit that that's happened.
Speaker 2: Where we at twenty thirty? What you see money? Where
Speaker 2: where is AI taking this? What does human action interaction
Speaker 2: look like?
Speaker 1: What are we doing? Do? We got the chips and
Speaker 1: we got the eye things, what we're doing? I think
Speaker 1: we already here. We just you can see the future. Ugg.
Speaker 1: I think we already here. We just ain't accepted it yet.
Speaker 1: Just kind of like everything that we're using now. It
Speaker 1: was dere before, it was de before twenty twenty, but
Speaker 1: we started using it more doing twenty twenty. And that's
Speaker 1: why we had the problem. That's why we have this
Speaker 1: problem in the in the music, I mean entertainment industry
Speaker 1: is because all this shit been here, it's just doing
Speaker 1: the doing the twenty twenty the networkstar resalizing, like the
Speaker 1: network start realizing, wait a minute, I don't need these motherfuckers.
Speaker 1: I don't need a staff for three hundred people. All
Speaker 1: I need is twenty people. So I feel like we
Speaker 1: already is just we gonna get adjusted and like the
Speaker 1: same thing in Hollywood, how we saying the inevitable coming.
Speaker 1: It's gonna get to a point to where it is.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna it ain't gonna be a bad
Speaker 1: all good thing. It's just gonna be evolved with you
Speaker 1: gonna roll with or get rolled over. But this is
Speaker 1: the time to figure it.
Speaker 2: Out that I ain't done. I got another question.
Speaker 1: Let me this is a cat.
Speaker 2: This is another question, all right?
Speaker 1: So why would you or what other country would you
Speaker 1: move to? This?
Speaker 3: My I think this might be my last one because
Speaker 3: I feeling like, is this just some shit that's happening
Speaker 3: in America? Right with this AI and all this chaos
Speaker 3: that's going on, Like, is there somewhere safer go inside
Speaker 3: the world to.
Speaker 1: Jodge this shit? The maitrice real talk, ain't no place
Speaker 1: better than America, no place you the men everywhere too,
Speaker 1: It ain't no I mean everywhere else cool, it's cool
Speaker 1: to visit everywhere else. You really gotta have money. This
Speaker 1: is the only place left. It is barely getting like that,
Speaker 1: and that whole place a person can come from nothing
Speaker 1: and become a millionaire, a billionaire, where else can you
Speaker 1: do that? Everybody else that do that, they already tiedy
Speaker 1: in some type of way. They tied in as far
Speaker 1: as bloodline, they tied in, as far as businesses or family.
Speaker 1: It just is what it is where America, And it's
Speaker 1: barely like that now because shit, shit is they locking
Speaker 1: it in and locking in their families and their teams,
Speaker 1: and it is what it is. But if you ain't
Speaker 1: on that, if you ain't on that side, we see
Speaker 1: it now people getting rich and poor.
Speaker 3: So all right, so take away the facts of like
Speaker 3: you you were born into it, you acquire it while
Speaker 3: you're here where if you say, right now, America's about
Speaker 3: to go to shit, and which it is, and you're
Speaker 3: gonna take your wealth somewhere, it.
Speaker 1: Depends gonna take your wealth. So it all depends on
Speaker 1: if I got pool in the other country, if I
Speaker 1: if I got a setup to where I can build
Speaker 1: another business over there, Because I don't give fuck how
Speaker 1: much money you got lets you into unless you owe
Speaker 1: like my age to where it's like, all right, I
Speaker 1: only got about thirty forty more years left on earth,
Speaker 1: so I can God damn affoord the cash out at
Speaker 1: twenty million to live off there. But if you're young,
Speaker 1: still trying to like, you're gonna have to have some
Speaker 1: type of income coming in the way. The ship sets
Speaker 1: set up designed. Okay, ship costs more overseas too, depending
Speaker 1: on where you go. But listen, place twenty two dollars
Speaker 1: for this day for you lion gas my old lady
Speaker 1: right now, she'll tell you, like shit, call ga. A
Speaker 1: gallon of gas is like eight dollars a gallon on
Speaker 1: my eye. And Bahamas, yes, but that's on your island
Speaker 1: on everything, like say, for the most shit getting important
Speaker 1: from America or from from from Japan. So that's how
Speaker 1: that's how places like Bahamas make their money off of
Speaker 1: import and ship like that there. So for instance, I
Speaker 1: got a call over there my car that they charge
Speaker 1: you for duty they get your car there. It's whatever
Speaker 1: the car worth is, seventy five or eighty percent whatever
Speaker 1: the car work. So if I buy a Jeep, if
Speaker 1: I buy a Jeep for fifty thousand of them states,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to end up spending about thirty five
Speaker 1: forty extra to get it to the Bahamas. Damn shit
Speaker 1: costs brou And on top of that, the reason why
Speaker 1: I say America's great, it's great for us because we
Speaker 1: spoiled and we able to get everything accessible. And if
Speaker 1: you ain't used to not being without shit, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have problems going like a mile and everything closed at six.
Speaker 1: You telling me you can't just run to the store
Speaker 1: and get some get some cough drops, and hey, what
Speaker 1: you do? Hey, hey, that you do the cough drops
Speaker 1: might get fired or they're gonna be thirty dollars. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's exactly. Nigga. Nigga wasn't the ship And one of
Speaker 1: the gas station baken is the one that costs five
Speaker 1: ten dollars in the store forty dollars the first bread.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you what I mean. I think America's great.
Speaker 1: It's just gotta understanding and take it. You gotta look
Speaker 1: at it like put it this way. This is how
Speaker 1: you this, This is how you know America is still
Speaker 1: good because people are still coming over here and coming
Speaker 1: up all right, And I'm not I'm not African's coming
Speaker 1: over here. Oh you know they're doing it. They're coming
Speaker 1: over here, coming up and taking their money and taking
Speaker 1: their hands back over there, which ain't nothing wrong with it,
Speaker 1: so that lets you know.
Speaker 3: So that's my question though, if you have the infrastructure
Speaker 3: here right, if you got if Ridge Broke thinking, we
Speaker 3: gotta have a side conversation because I'm trying to Jay Skids,
Speaker 3: who the VP of Ridge Broke.
Speaker 1: Let's just talk, you know. Listen, man, you think I'm
Speaker 1: gonna make this nigga ba that nigga? You got your
Speaker 1: goddamn man that Jackie bitch the here. But go ahead,
Speaker 1: you said, men an example, go ahead, you.
Speaker 3: Crazy here, But nah, I'm being funny answered at the
Speaker 3: same time, n I don't even a position.
Speaker 1: We need to talk rich Broke.
Speaker 3: But rich Broke is here in the States, Rich say
Speaker 3: we get rich Broke popping right, and it's the brand,
Speaker 3: that's the ship for the next you know, for the
Speaker 3: next twenty years. And you got whatever number you want.
Speaker 3: Rich Broke got you up one hundred million. Where are
Speaker 3: you you just staying here?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Because fuck I stay here and now I ain't
Speaker 1: got to stay here, you know that, right, I ain't
Speaker 1: got to stand I know that.
Speaker 3: But that's what I'm saying on so like there's nowhere
Speaker 3: else you would go, and like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: not only that.
Speaker 1: I love my people. I love black people in America.
Speaker 1: I love I feel like I'm here for a reason
Speaker 1: to help them. So I mean, I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: like when I want to get out and I do
Speaker 1: move on, I stay in the Bahamas. But I also don't.
Speaker 1: I don't lean on needing people and needing that love
Speaker 1: from the community too. That's why, that's why I kind
Speaker 1: of program myself on the island where if the world
Speaker 1: say fuck me, I'm still good. You geel what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, America is great. Like people
Speaker 1: hate Florida. I love Florida. I'm cool with if I
Speaker 1: don't die the Bahamas, I'm cool with dining Florida. That's
Speaker 1: how much I love it. I don't see why nobody
Speaker 1: like it. It's fun, even the crazy shit I think
Speaker 1: about social media born as fuck without Florida.
Speaker 3: Man, listen, I guess I'm just I'm just trying to see, like,
Speaker 3: so all right, exactly what you are our previous conversation
Speaker 3: of like AI and how crazy the world is. Now,
Speaker 3: that's the reason why I'm asking this, because like YO,
Speaker 3: to me, this shit only about to get more chaotic.
Speaker 1: You used that you used ai fu for your own ship.
Speaker 1: You use it for good, like because everybody's gonna use it,
Speaker 1: so you might use it for your own ship. Like
Speaker 1: they finished this right now. If I want to say, damn,
Speaker 1: I want to make a song about love, hey make
Speaker 1: me a song about love getting breaking up? They right,
Speaker 1: all this right there for you. It sounds fucked up,
Speaker 1: but it is what it is. If you don't do it,
Speaker 1: somebody gonna do it for you. True. Same thing happened
Speaker 1: in Hollywood. That's what they learned. They're like, I can
Speaker 1: get a I just write me a whole movie, right
Speaker 1: and the shit gonna be good. Nigga, I done used
Speaker 1: it before. That motherfucker's not to put some words together, Nigga,
Speaker 1: I told, Nigga. I told the one time. I was like,
Speaker 1: tell me a little Duval Joe. That motherfucker told me
Speaker 1: a duval joke. It wasn't funny, But pretty soon it's
Speaker 1: gonna get funny. Once AI get smart and the algorithms
Speaker 1: start getting better, it's gonna get funny.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they just clocking us all they just clocking
Speaker 3: and watching and recording it.
Speaker 1: Think about it. Your kids put it this way. You
Speaker 1: got kids, right, They watch you, and you see yourself
Speaker 1: and you right. Yeah, So just imagine an artificial intelligence
Speaker 1: that's watching your every fucking movies, program, you every fucking move.
Speaker 1: It already knew you. That's like what people are talking about.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about. I'm gonna do this when the
Speaker 1: you know that that alarm that just went off, I'm
Speaker 1: a cup by fuck. They don't give a fuck. They
Speaker 1: already got you. You can't stop. This is what it is.
Speaker 1: That's what that's the other part about it. I'm glad,
Speaker 1: and that's what I want to say too. I had
Speaker 1: one thing that I was like, you know, I wanted
Speaker 1: to say what I.
Speaker 3: Got on here, and it is that I appreciate and
Speaker 3: you go and see my teats about this. But like comedians, bro,
Speaker 3: the world needs to y'all are y'all are God's favorites.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you why because y'all have limitless perspective.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, y'all ability to zoom out
Speaker 3: on everything, you know what I'm saying in life as
Speaker 3: a whole and make that shit funny and get people
Speaker 3: laugh or enjoy inside of zoom lot like you can
Speaker 3: take you.
Speaker 1: No, I don't know about other comedians, but for me,
Speaker 1: I understand that everybody is full of ship and everybody's
Speaker 1: walking contradiction. Once you understand that, you get it for
Speaker 1: what it is. So there's always a h a good
Speaker 1: side in the band's side, there's always there is no
Speaker 1: there's no equals. So once you understand that it's all
Speaker 1: a game, you just get on the on the winning's
Speaker 1: side and play that game. And that's how I treat it.
Speaker 3: Like So that's I fuck with that and that's what
Speaker 3: makes me like so like in tune with comedians lately,
Speaker 3: but also what the hardship for me has been adapting
Speaker 3: that view of life but moving as such amongst people
Speaker 3: who don't kind of get that.
Speaker 2: It's hard because.
Speaker 1: Everybody like I deal with a bunch of slow motherfuckers
Speaker 1: my whole career. Nigga, if I can make you, you maga.
Speaker 1: This shit frustrating to this day, even simple as telling
Speaker 1: somebody record me walking out the house these niggas is horrible, man,
Speaker 1: But you gotta work around it. Man. It is what
Speaker 1: it is. Like, It's it's hard, but everybody have ship
Speaker 1: they got to overcome, man, But it is what it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now that that's that's it. Okay that that lasts
Speaker 3: one when I was it though, for sure, Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: that's it. You just gotta take it for what it is.
Speaker 3: But I that limitless perspective. I'm always able to zoom out. Now,
Speaker 3: even for myself.
Speaker 1: This is another thing I do too. This another thing
Speaker 1: I do, even with depths and everything. I put things
Speaker 1: in perspective, especially ship that you can't control. It's like
Speaker 1: you can feel down and all that if we all
Speaker 1: naturally gonna have emotions. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: you ain't the first and last person to go through this,
Speaker 1: and this ain't the first and last person you're gonna
Speaker 1: see it go through this. So it's just like you
Speaker 1: gotta take it for what it is. It's reality, you know.
Speaker 1: It's just like we hate the face reality because humans
Speaker 1: we arrogant if they think that we bigger than life.
Speaker 1: But defferent we ain't shit. So once you understand and
Speaker 1: have a full perspective of that, you take things for
Speaker 1: how they come, and you try to work with it
Speaker 1: and try to try to finesse the world that you
Speaker 1: can stay on the good side of the goddamn universe.
Speaker 1: And you do that just by being a genuine person.
Speaker 2: Nah, that's real, that's just bad. Well, yeah, man, I
Speaker 2: appreciate you having me on.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: I gotta hit you after this, of course, and get
Speaker 2: through the dates locked in so I can pull up.
Speaker 1: On you in the Bahamas man, for sure. Man, I
Speaker 1: appreciate you coming on the show, man, and I thank
Speaker 1: everybody for listening. I hope y'all got some jewels from this.
Speaker 1: If you didn't, I don't give a fuck. He did,
Speaker 1: so that's all. That's maut. You got this bitch Black
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