1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 2: Welcome back in our number three Thursday edition Clay Travis 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 2: Buck Sexton Show. Encourage you to go subscribe to the podcast. 5 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 2: If you do, I think you'll enjoy first couple of hours. 6 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 2: Reacting to the Republican primary debate last night. 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: Viveg Ramaswami has joined us. 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: Sean Hannity swung by searched my name Clay Travis and 9 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: or Buck Sexton out boom. You can go subscribe. By 10 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 2: the way, Buck in Scotland right now. He'll be back 11 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: on Monday. He and his lovely wife Carrie on vacation 12 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 2: as many people are traveling around the country during summer. 13 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: And we are joined now by one of the men 14 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 2: who was on the stage last night for the Republican 15 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 2: debate on Fox News. He is former New Jersey Governor 16 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 2: Chris CHRISTI and Governor. I don't know if you grew 17 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: up like I did. Maybe you still are a fan 18 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 2: of WWE, but I felt like last night you were 19 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 2: playing the heel role and I actually thought you played 20 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 2: it pretty well. Did you feel a bit like I 21 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 2: don't know, Andre the Giant back in the day walking 22 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: in when he was about to take on hault. 23 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 3: Cogand Andre the Giant or the iron chic or the executioner. 24 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there's a few of those. There's a few 25 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 3: of those possibilities. Say, now, you know, look, I knew 26 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 3: going in there last night, because this isn't my first 27 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 3: rodeo that if the issue of Donald Trump came up, 28 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,279 Speaker 3: you know, because you've interviewed me a number of times 29 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 3: before that, I'm going to say what I really believe 30 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 3: and I'm not gonna worry about, you know what some 31 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 3: folks in the in the audience may or may not do. 32 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 3: And so I felt fine walking in there last night. 33 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 3: I felt even better walking out. 34 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 2: So here's a question I want to I want to 35 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 2: start off something positive. If you had to vote for 36 00:01:55,840 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: someone on that stage other than yourself, who have you 37 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: been impressed by since you started the campaign and said, Hey, 38 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 2: this guy or this gal they could be a good president. 39 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: I would be willing to vote for them. 40 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 2: We know you're not going to vote for Trump or 41 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 2: don't want to vote for Trump, but who has actually 42 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 2: impressed you so far during the campaign. 43 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 3: Well, I got to tell you, part of it is 44 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 3: a bias because I know him so well. But I 45 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 3: really like Doug Burgham and I think Doug has been 46 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 3: a really successful governor in North Dakota. His wife, Katherine 47 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 3: is a really solid, smart partner who's done a lot 48 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 3: of extraordinary work in the drug addiction area. And I 49 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 3: think they'd be a very good first couple. And if 50 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 3: I couldn't vote for myself, I would love to vote 51 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 3: for Doug. I think he's a good man. 52 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 2: All right, So let's talk about the debate that happened 53 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: last night. You really went after the Vey g Ramaswami. 54 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 2: Obviously we know you went after Trump, but let's start 55 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 2: with the vake. 56 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: What do you think of him? What do you think 57 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: of his candidacy? 58 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 3: Well, look, I think when what offended me is I 59 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 3: citally have a responding to a vake. You know, when 60 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 3: a guy who's who's barely ever voted gets on the 61 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 3: stage and says, everybody but me on this stage is 62 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 3: bought and paid for, I don't know how you take 63 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 3: him seriously. I mean, you know you've got folks up 64 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 3: there like Tim Scott and Nicky Haley who have done 65 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 3: great things for the state of South Carolina and selflessly 66 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 3: served and Nicky's husband is serving right now in the 67 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 3: military and on deployment. Mike Pence, you know, you can 68 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 3: like Mike Pence, not like Mike Pence, but the idea 69 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 3: that Mike Pence is bought and paid for is ridiculous. 70 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 3: Atha Hutchinson is bought and paid for, you know, Doug 71 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 3: Bergham bought and paid for. You know, I just I 72 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 3: found it offensive and I find it hard, and that's 73 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 3: why I used the phrase I did about chat GPT. 74 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 3: He sounds like a guy who's looked up and researched 75 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 3: all the buzzwords that will light somebody up, strings them 76 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 3: all together say something that saysn't as fast as he 77 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 3: can without any type of you know, a thought about 78 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:30,799 Speaker 3: what those policies would mean. And so I can't take 79 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 3: him all that seriously when the first thing he does 80 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 3: when he comes up there is accused the other seven 81 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 3: of us of being bought and paid for, when, by 82 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 3: the way, there's no evidence of that. And quite to 83 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 3: the contrary, he defends Donald Trump, who you know, his 84 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 3: family is on the grip so deep that you know, uh, 85 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 3: they're they're at least in the same league as hunt 86 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 3: their bikes, So that the guy he defends, and the 87 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 3: seven of us, you know, are are bought and paid for. 88 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 3: So that's my problem with Klay. The facts don't back 89 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 3: up what he's saying. And that goes with a lot 90 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 3: of the stuff that he said last night. And so 91 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 3: at one point I was tired of having him feat 92 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 3: on me and everybody else on the stage without getting 93 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 3: responded to. So you know, you want to smack me 94 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 3: on from Jersey, you smack me, You're gonna get a 95 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 3: smack or two back. 96 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 2: I thought you did a good job, by the way, 97 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 2: responding on the UFO question and turning it into an 98 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: interesting answer about the importance of trust, loyalty, and decency 99 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 2: when it comes to leaders and people who are talking 100 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: to the people that they are attempting to lead. You 101 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 2: and look, part of half of our audience is in 102 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 2: favor of Donald Trump. The other half is rooting for 103 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 2: somebody else. Right now, you clearly are anti Trump. At 104 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 2: what point do you look around? There were eight people 105 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: on the stage last night. Trump is not one of them. 106 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 2: Trump has obviously opened up a substantial lead. At what 107 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: point do you look I'm sure you've read the Wall 108 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 2: Street Journal make this argument that there needs to be 109 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 2: a thinning of the herd, so to speak, in order 110 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 2: for Trump not to win. If your goal is Trump 111 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 2: not to be the nominee, at what point do you 112 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: look around and say, the anti Trump faction has to coalesce? 113 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 1: Are we there? What's that time look like in your mind? 114 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 3: You know, my goal is to be elected president the 115 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 3: United States, not to see Donald Trump not elected president 116 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 3: the United States. So that's the first thing. Secondly, I 117 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 3: think there will be a natural coalectioning of it. But 118 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 3: I think you know, the Wall Street Journal editorial page 119 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 3: trying to force that in August of twenty twenty three 120 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 3: has never been successful in any race they've tried to 121 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 3: do that in or other media folks try to do 122 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 3: that in and it's going to take some time for 123 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 3: people to get to know us and for it to 124 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 3: become obvious to us as to who they should collect behind. 125 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 3: But I will say this. You know, I've been in 126 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 3: the race for two and a half months. I'm now 127 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 3: at fourteen percent in New Hampshire. I'm ahead by five 128 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 3: points of Ron DeSantis, who was the far and away 129 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 3: front running challenger when he got into this race. He's 130 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 3: now in fourth place in New Hampshire. So you know, 131 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 3: I feel like we've made enormous progress in just two 132 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 3: and a half months. And I will remind you also 133 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 3: that these national polls mean absolutely nothing. We don't have 134 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 3: a national primary, and the race will change when Ilands vote. 135 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 3: The race will change again when the residents of New 136 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 3: Hampshire vote, and again when the residents of South Carolina 137 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 3: and Nevada vote, And those first four will cull the 138 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: herd significantly, and we'll see how it goes from there. 139 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 3: And I think he might even have, you know, a 140 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 3: smaller stage in late September, given that the criteria increase 141 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 3: and some of the people who were on stage last night, 142 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,559 Speaker 3: you know, may not make it to next month. 143 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 2: You mentioned the people that you didn't think were bought 144 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 2: and paid for in terms of the ak Ramaswami going 145 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 2: after that allegation that he made last night during the debate, 146 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 2: you didn't mention Ron DeSantis. Do you think Ronda Santis 147 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: has bought and paid for? 148 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 3: But what I think is he's rented. I think he's 149 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 3: rented by big money interests in Florida. You know, you 150 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 3: don't raise eighty three million in Florida and have that happened. 151 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 3: It transfers to your presidential account. Then raise more money, 152 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 3: more soft money. I think that and when you see that, 153 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 3: that super packed structure dictates your debate strategy. And we 154 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 3: watched last night, as he repeated, sometimes effectively sometimes that's 155 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 3: effectively memorized soundbites from you know, those those memos. The 156 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 3: memo is so effective that even the by was using 157 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 3: a never back down memo. So you know, that's what 158 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 3: makes me laugh about you know, vivate accusing everybody else. 159 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 3: And this is a guy, you know who wrote a book, 160 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 3: you know, condemning Donald Trump and his activities on January sixth, 161 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 3: and then when I call him on it on the 162 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 3: stage last night, he says he never said it. Well, 163 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 3: he wrote it in a book or his ghostwriter wrote 164 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 3: it in the book under his name. So look, I 165 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 3: think that Ron has a lot to answer for in 166 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 3: terms of the concepts of his super pack and the 167 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 3: conduct of you know, his own campaign in the in 168 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 3: there what what appears to be very very close coordination 169 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 3: between the two. And that makes everybody a little bit squirrely. 170 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 2: I think you mentioned the vacan. Now he is the 171 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 2: ardent and most ardent. I think it's fair to say 172 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 2: defender of Donald Trump on that stage last night is 173 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 2: the Vike in your mind? And we just had him 174 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 2: on so people can go listen to the interview that 175 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: we did with him. Do you think the Veke is 176 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 2: running to beat Trump and become president of the United 177 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 2: States or do you think he's auditioning to be as 178 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 2: vice president. 179 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 3: I think he's auditioning for something. I don't think, knowing 180 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 3: Donald Trump as well as I do, I might have 181 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 3: as good a chance to be vice president as Vivek. 182 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 3: Donald Trump's not going to pick somebody who shoots their 183 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 3: mouth off like Theveke did last night in the number 184 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 3: two spot. He's going to pick someone who is much 185 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 3: more controllable than somebody like the Veke. So I think 186 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 3: Vivike may be, you know, auditioning for a cabinet position. 187 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 3: I think it would be honestly kind of silly for 188 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 3: him to be thinking that he'd be picked for vice 189 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 3: president a number of other people that I think the president, 190 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 3: the former president, I believes he has better relationships with 191 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 3: and might be more of his prototypical type of vice president. Remember, 192 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 3: Mike Pence was selected as vice president in twenty sixteen. 193 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 3: And in part because, as he told me at the time, 194 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 3: Mike Pence was out of central casting. You know, a 195 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 3: quiet vice president that would not cause any trouble. I 196 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 3: don't think anyone could describe the Vake that way. 197 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 2: Talking to Chris Christy, he was on the stage last 198 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 2: night in Milwaukee, Governor Christie. When you look now going forward, 199 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 2: you mentioned it's only August, though there's another debate in 200 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 2: a month. You mentioned some of those people may not 201 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: be on the stage. One of the things that's going 202 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 2: to continue to loom is Trump. And you came on 203 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 2: with us before right as some of the alley and 204 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 2: right as the Hunter Biden investigation blew up. And I thought, 205 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 2: candidly your strongest argument all night was, but if you 206 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 2: were president of the United States, Hunter Biden would be 207 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: in prison. When you see and I'm sure you've seen this, 208 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 2: because it's headlines everywhere that Fanny Willis is asking for 209 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: that Rico case to go to trial now October twenty third, 210 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: that's basically two months from today. How crazy is that? 211 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 2: What do you think this is going to look like? 212 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 2: Do you think the odds are based on your knowledge 213 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 2: as an assistant as a district attorney State's attorney. Sorry, 214 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 2: all the time that you spent prosecuting people, do you 215 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 2: think Trump is going to be able to avoid these 216 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 2: cases going to trial? How many of you think would 217 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 2: go to trial between now and election day twenty twenty four. 218 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 3: Well, let me say this first off, that case is 219 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 3: in Atlanta. Is not going to trial on October? Yeah, 220 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 3: no shots, No shots, Maybe October of twenty. 221 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 2: Five, Governor, I asked, Yeah, I said, when the October 222 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 2: date went up, they didn't put the year, And I 223 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 2: asked my staff, I was like, are they talking about 224 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 2: October of twenty four? That surely she doesn't mean two 225 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: months from now. So sorry to cut you off, But 226 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 2: that was my initial reaction too. I thought it was crazy, 227 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 2: there's no shot. 228 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 3: Look, I think that there are two cases that have 229 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 3: the chance to be tried at or before the Convention, 230 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 3: the New York case and the January sixth case. I 231 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 3: think that the classified documents case, which I think is 232 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 3: the strongest case against it, It's going to take time 233 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 3: to get people cleared, to review those classified documents, to 234 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 3: get a jury selected, and all the rest. I had 235 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 3: a hard time believing that they'll be able to try 236 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 3: that case. You know, before the late fall of twenty 237 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 3: twenty four. So I think your maximum play would be 238 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 3: the New York case, which I think very well could 239 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 3: happen in this spring, not a complicated case, and the 240 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 3: January sixth case, because Donald Trump's the only defendant. And 241 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 3: I think that's the reason that Jacksmith did it that way. 242 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 3: He didn't please this big case like Fanny Willis did 243 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 3: because he wanted it to actually have a fast track 244 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 3: to trial. So I think that could happen anywhere from 245 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 3: like mid spring of twenty four into the early summer 246 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 3: of twenty four. So I think he's going to be 247 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 3: faced into trials, and Republican primary voters have to ask themselves, 248 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 3: is that really our best foot forward to beat Joe Biden. 249 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 3: That's kind of what I said in my closing last night, 250 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 3: Like you think that Joe Biden and the Democrats are 251 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 3: going to be afraid of Donald Trump, who very well 252 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 3: could be convicted felon in two different matters before the 253 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 3: fall election, And that's who we're saying is our best 254 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 3: candidate put up against Biden. Let's not make this a 255 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 3: grudge match. The stakes are too high because Clay, let 256 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 3: me tell you if the Democrat, If Biden wins, he's 257 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 3: going to take the House back. That means we're going 258 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 3: to have Supreme Court packing. That means we're going to 259 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 3: eliminate the filibuster. This is going to be a cataclysmic 260 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 3: loss for the country if we don't nominate someone who 261 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 3: can win. And Donald Trump, given what he's facing and 262 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 3: e they're going to be hearing before trial, he's got 263 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 3: to show up in all that stuff. He's out on 264 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 3: bail Clay, you're not allowed not to show up. And 265 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 3: that's going to be the circus we're going to be 266 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 3: seeing between now and then. And the shame of it 267 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 3: is that it is all self created, all of it. 268 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 3: And I can't imagine that Republicans are going to look 269 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 3: at that and say, yeah, that's two times felon, that's 270 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 3: our best shot to beat Joe Biden. Joe Biden wants 271 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 3: Donald Trump, and if we are dumb enough to give 272 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 3: him Donald Trump, We're going to really harm the country. 273 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 2: Chris Christy right off the debate stage onto the show. 274 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 2: Appreciate the time. 275 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 3: Slay always great being on the program, and please tell 276 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 3: Buck at Sick congratulations, great work. 277 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 2: For sure, he's having a good time in Scotland and 278 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 2: he and his new bride are continue to have a 279 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 2: great time as well. 280 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: Thank you, Chris Christy. 281 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 2: Start earning high yield returns in a low yield market 282 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 2: by investing in Phoenix Capital Group's corporate bonds. 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Dive into Innovation Refunds today, Lady Travis 325 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 2: and Buck Sexton on the front lines of truth. Welcome 326 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 2: back in all right, We're gonna let you guys react 327 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 2: to close out the show here. You heard what I 328 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 2: thought in hour one, I broke down the entire debate. 329 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 2: You heard from the vike Ramaswami at the top of 330 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 2: the second hour. Top of the third hour, you heard 331 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 2: from Chris Christy. Oh, by the way, our buddy Sean Hannity, 332 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 2: who is in the same studio in New York that 333 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 2: I'm in today, or in a studio next to me 334 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 2: next to the one that I'm in New York today, 335 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 2: also swung by and hung out. 336 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: So what do you guys want to say? 337 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 2: Your opportunity now to react on The program begins afresh 338 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 2: and we start with Moura in Mechanicsburg, Pennsylvania. 339 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: What did you think of the Veke on the SHO 340 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: Show earlier. 341 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 4: OHI, good afternoon. I wanted to say, it wasn't until 342 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,959 Speaker 4: your show today that I ever considered would I switch 343 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 4: from Donald Trump to the VEC because I watched the 344 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 4: debates last night. But and that's basically because I'm an 345 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 4: independent and a woman of faith, and I've always been 346 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 4: a Trump supporter. But right out of the gate when 347 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 4: they introduced all of the candidates, the VEC said our 348 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 4: country was in the best place ever under Trump, that 349 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 4: he ran it like a champ, and I love that. 350 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 4: And then when the candidates were asked, would you pardon 351 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 4: Trump if you were president? His was the first hand up. 352 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 4: And then I looked at Ron DeSantis and he looked 353 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 4: to his right, and he looked to his left to 354 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 4: see who else had their hand up, and he snuck 355 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 4: his hand up at the very last second. So at 356 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 4: that moment, Ron kind of lost my interest altogether. And 357 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 4: the Beck I'm really looking at him now, not because 358 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 4: I don't think that Donald would be a great president, 359 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 4: but I don't know what's going to happen with everything 360 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 4: going on with Donald. Maybe the Vick would be my 361 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 4: second choice, but now I'm looking at that because he 362 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 4: is younger, and he always followed Trump like I think 363 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 4: he liked everything Trump does business wise, So I just 364 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 4: wanted to say that. Then, until this show, I hadn't 365 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 4: considered whether i'd switch over or not. Thank you, he'd 366 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 4: be an excellent day. 367 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: Thank you for the call. The Veg killed it. I'm 368 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: gonna be honest with you. 369 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 2: He was incredible, I think as a candidate. At the 370 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,959 Speaker 2: top of the second hour of the program today, I 371 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 2: thought he was great directly addressed for the first time 372 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 2: at least I've heard, and I know people are on 373 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 2: the campaign trail, they're talking about things all the time. 374 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 1: I hadn't heard him say. 375 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 2: Vivek said that he thinks Trump was the best president 376 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 2: of the twenty first century, but that he didn't surround 377 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 2: himself with the best advisors, and he thinks he can 378 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 2: be a better president than Trump was by building off 379 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 2: what Trump did. Basically, he can be a more effective 380 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,959 Speaker 2: version of Trump. That is what he believes. That's what 381 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 2: Viveg told to us, And I encourage all of you 382 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 2: to go listen it. Listen to that interview on podcasts. 383 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 2: You can go download it if you didn't already. I 384 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 2: think it will be intriguing for you to check out 385 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 2: Bud in Syracuse, New York. 386 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: What do you think? How you doing excellent? 387 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 5: Christy does not speak for us up Pierre. 388 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 6: He has no prayer here. 389 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 5: We're all Trump and this and this is a. 390 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 3: Second for sure. 391 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 5: Nobody's whacked out that I know of. This stuck down 392 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:45,479 Speaker 5: one person. 393 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for the Carl. 394 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 2: I thought that was interesting from Christy, and I want 395 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 2: you to be able to hear the opinions. I don't 396 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 2: when people share their real opinions, I'm. 397 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 1: Not going to argue with them. 398 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 2: When I feel like people aren't telling you answer to 399 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 2: a question. If you listen to Pence, that's when I 400 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 2: really argue. So if DeSantis, or if if Chris Christie, 401 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 2: or if the veg Ramaswami, if they come on and 402 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 2: they have a different opinion than me, and you will 403 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 2: hear regularly these guys have, as they should, different opinions 404 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 2: than me and you and everybody else. I don't begrudge 405 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 2: people sharing their different opinions. I thought what was the 406 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 2: most interesting about Chris Christie was that he actually went 407 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 2: after Trump and DeSantis. Did you note when he said 408 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 2: all the people that he didn't think were bought and 409 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 2: paid for on that on that stage and part of 410 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 2: the interview, and he left out DeSantis, and I circled 411 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 2: back around and he said, well, DeSantis may not be 412 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 2: bought and paid for, but he's rented does a pretty 413 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 2: aggressive attack. 414 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 3: Now. 415 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 2: He also went after Trump and said that the Trump 416 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 2: family is dirty like the Biden family is dirty. 417 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: I don't personally believe that. I think the Biden crime 418 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: family is is. 419 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 2: Far dirtier, far dirtier than anybody on the Republican side 420 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 2: of the equation period. But Chris Christy is allowed to 421 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 2: say that he thinks the Trump family and the Biden 422 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 2: family are similarly corrupt. 423 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: That's his position, that's his opinion. 424 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 2: I disagree with it, but I think he can make 425 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 2: that claim because that's what he's running on Tom and 426 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 2: avon Indiana. 427 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: Tom, what you got for us? Yeah, you're here, Clay. 428 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 6: I think Christy was right about one thing. He was 429 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 6: right that Trump can't win a national election. 430 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 3: He's great. I know he's. 431 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 6: Leading by big amounts, but I think we all need 432 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 6: the co lace around Ron Ron DeSantis is my pick. 433 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 6: I like did they But he can't win a national 434 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 6: election against the Democrats. 435 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 2: Why do you think. By By the way, just a question. 436 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 2: I understand the argument for DeSantis that he can win 437 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 2: a national election. Why do you think the Veke couldn't win. 438 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 7: He can't win because he's not well known enough. 439 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 6: He doesn't Nicky Hayley got him on for he's not 440 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 6: well enough addressed on foreign policy. She was right about 441 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 6: something when she came back on him. Uh, there's no 442 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 6: way that he could win a national election against a 443 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 6: top Democrat. Rod DeSantis is the guy we got to 444 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 6: coalesce a round. He's the only guy to compete Biden 445 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 6: of this bunch. 446 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 2: Okay, I appreciate the call. There's certainly are DeSantis people 447 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 2: that believe that's true. I would submit to you. I 448 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 2: actually think if the Vike were the nominee, I actually 449 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 2: think he'd be a pretty good candidate. 450 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:43,479 Speaker 3: Uh. 451 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 2: Can you imagine the Vake Ramasamy on the same stage 452 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 2: with Joe Biden? If Biden were actually the nominee, that 453 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 2: would be the biggest intellectual mismatch maybe an American presidential 454 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 2: debate history. Whatever you think about the Veke, the guy 455 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,959 Speaker 2: is thirty eight years old and nearly a billionaire because 456 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 2: he is so good at business. Joe Biden couldn't work 457 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 2: as a Walmart greeter. That would be utter a visceration. 458 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 2: I actually think that the veke would have to worry 459 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 2: about coming off as too smart compared to Joe Biden, 460 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 2: which I don't even know if we've had to worry 461 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 2: about something like that before. But that debate stage would 462 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 2: be an embarrassment. I think Trump would lacerate and obliterate 463 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 2: Joe Biden. I think DeSantis would. I think Nicky Haley 464 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 2: would circling back around. I thought Nicki Haley answered the 465 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 2: abortion question the best that anybody did last night, David 466 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 2: and Saint Louis, Missouri. 467 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: David, what you got for us? 468 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 3: Hey? 469 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, I was just a tried colon the other day 470 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 7: but couldn't get through. But you're trying to get everybody 471 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 7: to vote for Trump or whoever's a nominee, and they're saying, no, 472 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 7: I won't, no, I won't whatever. But I think we 473 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 7: ought to come up with some kind of slogan or 474 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 7: chant like must vote red, no matter who's in your head. 475 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 3: You know, we need to get something like that going. 476 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 2: You know, I appreciate the call, David. Look, I have 477 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 2: spent early this week. I made the argument that everybody 478 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 2: out there, fifty percent of this audience all in on Trump. 479 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: I get it. He's your guy, he's your champion. 480 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 2: Fifty percent of this audience right now somebody other than Trump. 481 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 2: I get that as well. In the wake of the debate, 482 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 2: we haven't really talked about this a ton, but I'm 483 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 2: going to keep hammering this home throughout the primary season. 484 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 2: It's gonna make some of you upset. I frankly don't care, 485 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 2: but I'm going to tell you exactly what I think, 486 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 2: and that is that be careful that you don't forget 487 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 2: who the true adversary here is. If you're a DeSantis 488 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 2: guy or gal, your adversary is not Trump, It's Joe Biden. 489 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 2: If you are a Trump guy, your adversary is not 490 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 2: Ron desant This or Viak Ramaswami or anybody else out there, 491 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 2: It's Joe Biden. And that is what I think everyone 492 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 2: has to keep in mind because it's gonna be kind 493 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 2: of toxic and nasty. Frankly, it's gonna be an internal 494 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 2: battle for the next six months ish probably, and people 495 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 2: are gonna get fired up, and you're gonna be angry 496 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 2: at me because I'm not pro Trump enough, and you're 497 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 2: gonna be angry at me because I'm not pro DeSantis enough, 498 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 2: and you're gonna be angry at your neighbors because they're 499 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 2: voting for somebody different than you. And then around March fifteenth, 500 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 2: everybody's gonna look around and say, Okay, we've got our 501 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 2: guy or our gal, and that is who we are 502 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 2: gonna ride with against Joe Biden or whomever the Democrats 503 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 2: put forward. Uh, Aaron in Virginia Beach, Virginia. 504 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 8: Clearly, how are you doing, sir? 505 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: Fantastic? 506 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 3: How about you excellent? 507 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 8: I'll watched you today. 508 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 3: Vic killed it. 509 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 8: DeSantis was second. Chris Christy to me, is just a 510 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 8: waste of time. He's just a Trump hater. And I 511 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 8: just listen to the interview he just had with him, 512 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 8: and I just think the he's saying about the stuff 513 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 8: that's going on in georgia's just a joke. We all 514 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 8: know what it is. It's a political hit job, and 515 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,239 Speaker 8: I just my two cents on it. 516 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: Appreciate it. 517 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 2: Look, look, Chris Christy, whether you like him or not, 518 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 2: is an incredibly well knowledged, well known figure in the 519 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 2: world of legal district attorneys, US attorneys prosecuting The last 520 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 2: time we had him on the Hunter Biden plea agreement 521 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 2: was happening in real time. He was phenomenal breaking all 522 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 2: that down because he's been in the courtroom, he knew 523 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 2: exactly what was going on. I think he's really really 524 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 2: good at breaking down the situation in Atlanta, in South Florida, 525 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 2: in New York City, and in d C. From a 526 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 2: legal perspective, if I were running for political office, I 527 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 2: would want Chris Christy to be an asset that I 528 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,719 Speaker 2: could lean on in terms of the lea goal process, 529 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 2: because I think he knows it really well as a prosecutor. 530 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 2: But I also think that Chris Christy is going to 531 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 2: have real trouble coalescing any sort of audience around him 532 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 2: because he's so anti Trump. And I think he knows that, 533 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 2: and he may be able to compete and maybe even 534 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 2: win New Hampshire. I don't think that's crazy. As he 535 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 2: pointed out, he's up to fourteen percent in New Hampshire. 536 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,959 Speaker 2: He may have a viable chance to win it. It's 537 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 2: why I started this week by telling you he was 538 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 2: one of the five people that I thought was a 539 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 2: legit competitor. The only thing I would change after the debate. 540 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 2: In terms of analyzing who I think are legit contenders, 541 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 2: I thought Nicki Haley was a lot better than Tim Scott, 542 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 2: and coming into the debate, I had Tim Scott above 543 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 2: Nicky Haley. I thought between the two that Nicky Haley 544 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 2: was far better last night on the stage than Tim Scott. 545 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 2: Doesn't mean I agree with everything Nicky Haley said, doesn't 546 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 2: mean I disagree with what Tim Scott said. I actually 547 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 2: agree with a lot of what both said. 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Go subscribe to 575 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 2: the podcast Clay Travis Buck Sexton. Search it out. Remember 576 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 2: Buck is in Scotland. He'll be back with me Monday. 577 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 2: You can hear the interview with Vivek Ramaswami, Chris Christy, 578 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,959 Speaker 2: also our buddy Sean Hannity swung By. He'll be on 579 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 2: many of these same stations in a little over ten 580 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 2: minutes from now. 581 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: A lot of you want to weigh in. Breaking news. 582 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 2: By the way, Trump saying that he is going to 583 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 2: surrender himself in Atlanta where he will pay two hundred 584 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 2: thousand dollars in bail money at seven thirty pm tonight, 585 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 2: So you can expect a lot of coverage for that 586 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 2: Atlanta indictment and now surrender from Donald Trump. Fourth different 587 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 2: jurisdiction where he will be facing charges. 588 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: A lot of you want. 589 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 3: A way in. 590 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 2: I'm going to ask you to go fast so I 591 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 2: can get as many of you as possible here Aaron 592 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 2: and Colorado up first? 593 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: What you got? 594 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 3: Hey, how full is the docket? Because they haven't prosecuted 595 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 3: any other crimes, so that it's now clear up, cleared 596 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 3: up for Trump. 597 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great question. It's crazy for those of 598 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: you who don't know. 599 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 2: Fanny Willis, prosecutor in Atlanta, has requested a trial date 600 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 2: now of October twenty third. I thought that was so 601 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 2: crazy when I saw the headline go up. I had 602 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 2: to ask the staff is that October twenty third of 603 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 2: this year or next year? Because I actually thought it 604 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 2: had to be next year because she had previously requested 605 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,959 Speaker 2: a trial date of March zero percent chance of that happening. 606 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 2: I thought, Chris Christy gussing that was very very good. 607 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 2: Bob and Harrisonburg, Virginia. 608 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks, Lay. I think these debates are great for 609 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 5: the American people, but I think what Trump pulled was 610 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 5: a very childish act by not showing up. He should 611 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 5: have been there to face the music and tell us 612 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 5: exactly where he stands and what he thinks, not in competition. 613 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 1: Thanks for the call. 614 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:24,439 Speaker 3: Uh. 615 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 2: Trump obviously really was only a focus of about twenty 616 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 2: minutes of the debate last night. Fox teased it right 617 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 2: after the first hour as they went to the second hour. 618 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 1: Was the discussion. 619 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 2: You heard a lot about that from both the Veke 620 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 2: and Chris Christy Michael in a wonderful town at Charleston, 621 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 2: South Carolina. 622 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: What you got, Yeah, I. 623 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 9: Just I wonder see if you can touch on some 624 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 9: of the soist rumors that have been going around on 625 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 9: the vake lately, because I've heard a couple of things 626 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 9: that haven't looked into it, and just want to see 627 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 9: if he had any info. 628 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 629 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 2: So, there is the allegation going around that the Veke 630 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 2: has accepted money from George Soros. That's not true. Uh, 631 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 2: And Theveke himself could explain this in detail. But he 632 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:10,280 Speaker 2: took a merit scholarship from George Soros's brother that allowed 633 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 2: him to attend Harvard for law school. So again there's 634 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 2: an allegation of George Soros funded money. No, he took 635 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 2: money on a merit scholarship. That is a found that 636 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,439 Speaker 2: is evidently they they the Paul and Daisy Soros Fellowship 637 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 2: that goes to a lot of different students that allows 638 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 2: students to attend I believe graduate school. 639 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 1: The Veke went to. 640 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 2: Harvard for law school in addition to I believe going 641 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 2: to Yale undergrad That is where that rumor comes from. 642 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,399 Speaker 1: It was a merit scholarship. Nate in Georgia, what's up? 643 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 3: I think. 644 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 7: I think quite a few people did good last night. 645 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 9: But I worry about Trump and I worry about some 646 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 9: of the other candidates going too hard at Biden because 647 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 9: in his diminished capacity, it's going to start to look 648 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 9: like the schoolyard bully picking on the weak kid. 649 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,359 Speaker 1: That's I don't want him getting. I think, Nate, that's 650 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: not a bad angle. 651 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 2: And that's kind of what I was talking about with 652 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 2: the idea of somebody who's really smart, like the Vake 653 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 2: or Ron DeSantis, or frankly even Trump himself being on 654 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 2: the same stage with Joe Biden. Biden so mentally and 655 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 2: physically diminished that it's gonna be hard for him, I 656 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 2: think to even do two or three hours in a row. 657 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 2: And that ties in with Mike up in Cape Cod. 658 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 1: What do you think? 659 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,479 Speaker 6: Well, first of all, anybody that's questioning more what's Trump 660 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 6: gonna do? 661 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,280 Speaker 3: What's this way we add two years of Trump? 662 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: The country was running great, yep. 663 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 6: I don't think that here is a Republican out there 664 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 6: who can't be Biden. 665 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: It's a great call from Mike and Cape Cod. 666 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 2: I do think Biden is so diminished now electability has 667 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 2: moved down the flow chart to a certain extent for 668 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 2: many Republican primary voters. We'll see if it emerges again, 669 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 2: but Biden is such a weak candidate. 670 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 1: I really do believe that. 671 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 2: Almost any of the eight that were on the stage 672 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 2: last night, as well as Trump, could beat. 673 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,720 Speaker 1: Biden because of how bad he is. Back tomorrow Friday. 674 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: Thanks for hanging with us.