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Speaker 1: First of all, thank you for being on our show.

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Speaker 1: You one of our favorite players. I feel like you

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Speaker 1: one of the most underrated players out there.

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Speaker 2: Love watching me play. But thank you for being on

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Speaker 2: the show.

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Speaker 3: Respect.

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Speaker 1: When you first got to the w n B A,

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Speaker 1: who was the first person to bust your ass?

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Speaker 4: Oh man? I mean outside of like my teammates, you know,

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Speaker 4: I was playing with the Delease, Milton Jones, CP, of course,

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Speaker 4: Ebony Hoffman. I'd probably have to say it was Cat

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Speaker 4: Tomika catchings for sure.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, They're all around and it was never stopped moving never.

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Speaker 4: It was energy so tiring because she could do everything

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Speaker 4: and I always had to guard her. And that was

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Speaker 4: like my first like, oh my god, I can't. I

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Speaker 4: don't know if I can do this.

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Speaker 3: Yo yo yo.

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Speaker 6: We live on low Los Angeles, California, and we got

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Speaker 6: greatness with us today, same time All Star number one

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Speaker 6: overall pick WNBA CHAP Rookie of the Year, MVP W

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Speaker 6: twenty five. We got greatness black you ready for this, yes,

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Speaker 6: sir net Gloom, Ok, we appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: We got Greace today, y'all. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Cypress Texas.

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Speaker 1: That's right outside of Houston, right it is Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: how was it growing up in Cyprus, Texas? With three

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Speaker 1: other sisters and y'all loving to hoo put the ball

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Speaker 1: in y'all hand to make y'all love this hoop now man?

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Speaker 4: Growing up in Cyprus was it was? I would have

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Speaker 4: to say that we had a really good upbringing. My

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Speaker 4: parents are Nigerian American and so we grew up in

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Speaker 4: the suburbs of Houston, Texas. They like to call Houston

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Speaker 4: like little Legos because there's a lot of Nigerians in Houston. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: there's a lot of Nigerians in Houston. So we ended

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Speaker 4: up settling out there. We just kind of we're just

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Speaker 4: little kids having fun. Education was first. My mom is

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Speaker 4: in education, she's been in it for over thirty years now,

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Speaker 4: and so that was always what was most important. And

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Speaker 4: then as we kind of like started growing up, it

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Speaker 4: was like, okay, how can we get into different activities?

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Speaker 4: And so that's kind of where like sports came in.

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Speaker 4: We weren't ever really like, hey, like I really want

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Speaker 4: to play this sport, but my mom and my dad

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Speaker 4: were all about leading healthy lives and well rounded lives.

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Speaker 4: So we started off in gymnastics kind of like tumbling class,

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Speaker 4: Your mom and dad tall, my dad is My mom

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Speaker 4: is not really yeah, my dad is. My dad's like six'.

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Speaker 1: Three so was y'all like girls in, class like the

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Speaker 1: tall and the always in the class and all that.

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Speaker 6: Stuff so at what, point like you got three, sisters

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Speaker 6: at what point was it like the gloomaka?

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Speaker 3: Sisters it did start being like.

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Speaker 4: THAT i, MEAN i think like maybe closer to like

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Speaker 4: WHEN i was in high school because my Young i'm

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Speaker 4: eight years older than the youngest, one so it took

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Speaker 4: a while for them to kind of like make their way.

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Speaker 4: Through BUT i started playing WHEN i was about, ten

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Speaker 4: and at FIRST i was playing at THE Ymca, league

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Speaker 4: and this was like you know when my mom was, like,

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Speaker 4: hey we need to put you guys in some. Activity

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Speaker 4: so my other three sisters were in. SOCCER i had

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Speaker 4: to stop playing gymnastics because my instructor SAID i was

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Speaker 4: getting too tall and it was becoming like a health

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Speaker 4: hazard or a safety. Hazard so then my mom was, like.

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Speaker 4: Okay she would take us to the y every, weekend

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Speaker 4: and so that's where we learned how to swim and.

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Speaker 4: Everything and she saw that you could sign up for basketball,

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Speaker 4: classes so THEN i was doing, that AND i was

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Speaker 4: doing that for like several. WEEKS i was about like,

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Speaker 4: ten AND i, was you, know the, tallest most. ATHLETIC

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Speaker 4: i didn't know anything about, basketball but you, KNOW i

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Speaker 4: was in. THERE i was walking around like my, shit.

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Speaker 4: VOLLEYBALL i mean like volleyball didn't really come until a

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Speaker 4: little bit. Later but like, that my intro to basketball

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Speaker 4: hey there's a basketball team of The. Why then my

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Speaker 4: mom's colleague at work was, like, oh you know she

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Speaker 4: plays with The. Why she's doing really. Good there's this

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Speaker 4: program CALLED. Aau my mom was, like what's? That so

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Speaker 4: she signed me up and there was this one team

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Speaker 4: that was in The cypress. Area and then that's WHEN

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Speaker 4: i really started that was that was actually really my

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Speaker 4: welcome to the league, moment BECAUSE i did not know

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Speaker 4: people were out there dribbling with two. BALLS i was,

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Speaker 4: LIKE i walked into, PRACTICE i was, like why do

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Speaker 4: you guys need two balls to?

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Speaker 2: Do you?

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Speaker 4: Know AND i THOUGHT i knew my stuff AND i

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Speaker 4: didn't know. Anything and then ONCE i started kind of

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Speaker 4: WHEN i got to middle school AND i was, like,

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Speaker 4: OH i can play, VOLLEYBALL i can run.

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Speaker 2: Track and then that's kind of WHERE i.

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Speaker 4: Started, YEAH i started like understanding that.

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Speaker 1: Who, professional whether it was a man or a, female

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Speaker 1: you've seen played, basketball and it was, like that's WHAT

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Speaker 1: i want to.

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Speaker 2: DO i want to do that right.

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Speaker 4: There So i'm a very unconventional kind of like upbringing

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Speaker 4: when it comes to. BASKETBALL i didn't really know or

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Speaker 4: believe THAT i could play professionally until like my junior

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Speaker 4: senior year in. College but we grew up watching a

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Speaker 4: lot of basketball as a. Family everything was a family.

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Speaker 4: Thing and the first player THAT i saw AND i was, like, oh,

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Speaker 4: man like they got it going on WAS. Kg he

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Speaker 4: was my favorite. Player yeah, Yeah AND i love the

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Speaker 4: way he played AND i love the way he, led you,

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Speaker 4: know like you could tell that he was impactful on his,

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Speaker 4: team not just because of how he was. Playing now

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Speaker 4: GRANTED i didn't know what was going on in the locker,

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Speaker 4: room but like hearing stories, now like people have so

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Speaker 4: many stories about him and how hard he was and

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Speaker 4: just how he connected with. People and he was the

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Speaker 4: first PLAYER i was, like oh. Shoot but on the women's,

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Speaker 4: side it Was Sophia young BECAUSE i grew up In,

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Speaker 4: texas SO i grew up watching a lot Of texas.

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Speaker 4: Basketball so watching her play and watching them win back

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Speaker 4: then was also really impactful for.

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Speaker 1: Me what year in high school that you felt like

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Speaker 1: you got, it you understood, Completely like every TIME i

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Speaker 1: come in this, GAME i know What i'm gonna, DO

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Speaker 1: i know the, strategy know how they double team.

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Speaker 2: Me because you're all around.

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Speaker 1: Player you was doing this since high, schools but you

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Speaker 1: got to get it first game.

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Speaker 4: Too, YEAH i MEAN i think that my breakout, Year

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Speaker 4: like WHEN i really started feeling it was WHEN i

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Speaker 4: was like around like thirteen or. Fourteen that was WHEN

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Speaker 4: i will never forget. THIS i was sitting in the

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Speaker 4: game AND i was like getting ready to like get

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Speaker 4: ready for basketball in high. SCHOOL i wasn't really, bummed

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Speaker 4: but LIKE i couldn't play varsity my first year BECAUSE

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Speaker 4: i didn't live in the. District so there's a. Rule,

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Speaker 4: yeah there's like a rule where you you go to the,

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Speaker 4: school BUT i was ON jv my freshman yeary.

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Speaker 3: Because you're not in the.

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Speaker 4: District, yeah you have to live in the district to

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Speaker 4: be able to play in, varsity so LIKE i didn't

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Speaker 4: live in the district at the.

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Speaker 3: TIME i never heard.

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Speaker 4: That, yeah SO i was playing ON jv AND i was, like,

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Speaker 4: okay whatever to my sophomore.

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Speaker 4: Yeah SO i was like sitting in the car with

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Speaker 4: my dad AND i was, Like dad was, like you,

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Speaker 4: Know i've been playing a few years and each DAY

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Speaker 4: i get. Better Coach mike and coach out like they

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Speaker 4: get me. Better and you, know there's another player on

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Speaker 4: the team who was there before, me AND i used

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Speaker 4: to look up to. HER i was, like, MAN i

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Speaker 4: WISH i could play like. Her and it got to

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Speaker 4: a point WHERE i was, like you know, THAT i

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Speaker 4: was LIKE i don't really see her getting, better and

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Speaker 4: he was, like, yeah not everyone has the same talent

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Speaker 4: or skill, set so you have to you have to

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Speaker 4: understand that you have to keep working at. It some

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Speaker 4: people may have to do it more than. Others and

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Speaker 4: that was kind of like the first time WHEN i was, like, oh,

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Speaker 4: shoot maybe this is something That i'm like really good.

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Speaker 1: At because you as you're growing, up you're getting. Better

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Speaker 1: it's started getting easier and easier and.

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Speaker 4: EASIER i, MEAN i would say that in moments it

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Speaker 4: felt LIKE i don't want to say it started GETTING

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Speaker 4: i would say. IT i mean like at, times SO

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Speaker 4: a little bit. Easier but THEN i also noticed THAT

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Speaker 4: i kind of have like a physical, gift you, know

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Speaker 4: like there are ways THAT i could do things THAT

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Speaker 4: i didn't have to think. About and with that comes more.

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Speaker 4: Challenges so, like, okay if you figure this one move,

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Speaker 4: out then you got to do the next, one and

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Speaker 4: then do you have a? Counter and then can you

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Speaker 4: also remember to go back to the first, move then

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Speaker 4: you're getting double getting, Tripled and SO i was seeing

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Speaker 4: a lot of, that BUT i HAD i was really.

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Speaker 4: BLESSED i had some really amazing coaches that also helped

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Speaker 4: me understand kind of like being a student of the.

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Speaker 4: Game AND i think that that's kind of where my

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Speaker 4: game comes. From. Naturally education has always been like a

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Speaker 4: pillar of my. Upbringing SO i love learning the. GAME

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Speaker 4: i always say that a true marker of a coach

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Speaker 4: for me is If i'm coming in And i'm learning

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Speaker 4: every day from. You that's WHAT i think is a

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Speaker 4: really good coach or even. TEAMMATE i don't want to

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Speaker 4: feel LIKE i know more than. You that's WHEN i

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Speaker 4: start losing. Interest, yeah we all.

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Speaker 3: Do we all.

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Speaker 6: Do tell me this at the same, Time, like while

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Speaker 6: you're sitting and you talking with your dad about, basketball

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Speaker 6: how are you emerging the same way in volleyball because

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Speaker 6: you became that same type and in, Both, like were

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Speaker 6: you seeing the growth in both dual?

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Speaker 4: SPORTS i, was actually and because of, THAT i also

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Speaker 4: was like trying to become a student of the game in.

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Speaker 4: Volleyball so LIKE i really did not know anything about,

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Speaker 4: volleyball AND i didn't know that when you go in

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Speaker 4: there you can have like you, know like a six to,

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Speaker 4: one a five to, two all these different. THINGS i

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Speaker 4: thought it was just three people in the, back three

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Speaker 4: people in the, front and you just. Rotating and THEN

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Speaker 4: i started learning that there's strategy in volleyball, too and

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Speaker 4: it was something that really helped me with my footwork as,

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Speaker 4: Well like volleyball help basketball and basketball held. Volleyball AND

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Speaker 4: i really do believe that IF i wasn't playing, BASKETBALL

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Speaker 4: i would definitely be a volleyball. Player did you.

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Speaker 2: Try to pursue both going to.

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Speaker 4: College stanford shil? Interest BUT tar wasn't having, That.

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Speaker 3: So correct me If i'm. Wrong the kill is when

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Speaker 3: you at the that and you high hours to.

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Speaker 4: Kill kill is any type of if you hit it

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Speaker 4: overhand and no one hits it on the other. Side

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Speaker 4: as far AS i, understand that's what a kill.

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Speaker 2: Is so you can do it from the.

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Speaker 2: Family how was it for you to be getting all these?

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Speaker 4: this is Where i'm going to. Go, yeah But duke

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Speaker 3: Was now you've Committee now you at. College how was?

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Speaker 6: It was it like a culture shock from you being

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Speaker 1: The hoop of, it because like now you just then

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Speaker 4: so like we knew the wake up At sam. Coming,

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Speaker 4: to get. Stuck SO i moved To, stanford like literally by,

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Speaker 1: You start getting your feet into, it like your freshman, year,

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Speaker 1: Powerhouses all of us want to go to The final,

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Speaker 1: four all of us want to be do? Great so

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Speaker 1: how was it to be one of them teams that

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Speaker 4: YEAH i mean there was a lot of, EXPECTATION i think.

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Speaker 4: Too you. KNOW i came Into stanford with What wiggs

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Speaker 4: i came in With Jana Pell cayla petersonin that. Pole

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Speaker 4: know that's when you like you get to know everybody

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Speaker 4: and you train and. Stuff but we came in, hard

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Speaker 4: and Like tara had. Expectations tar had a way of doing.

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Speaker 4: something for every single minute of those three. Hours like

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Speaker 4: strength and. Conditioning there was just this standard of excellence

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Speaker 4: Everybody you, like there's this they call, IT i think

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Speaker 4: like the swimming duck, syndrome where like At stanford it

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Speaker 4: Had Richard, sherman we Had Andrew. Luck you, know we

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Speaker 4: felt that way because the students were stars. TOO i,

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Speaker 4: yeah you don't want to admit that you don't know

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Speaker 1: Way what was something From Coach tar that sticks to

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Speaker 4: TODAY i said this in my speech WHEN i was

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00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,080
Speaker 4: inducted into The Stanford hall Of, honor AND i would

432
00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,560
Speaker 4: never get. THIS i was hooping on the. COURT i was,

433
00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,760
Speaker 4: hooping hoop and. HOOPING i was about like MY i

434
00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,879
Speaker 4: think it was about like my sophomore year or, so

435
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,720
Speaker 4: and in the CLASSROOM i was kind of struggling because

436
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,399
Speaker 4: there was this expectation THAT i had to go to

437
00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,359
Speaker 4: medical school AFTER i THAT i kind of put on,

438
00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,800
Speaker 4: myself but it was a little bit cultural THAT i

439
00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,800
Speaker 4: have to put on all of these performances on the

440
00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,920
Speaker 4: court and then also like keep my. Grades, huh you

441
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,280
Speaker 4: gotta be. Perfect and SO i decided to choose a

442
00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:36,199
Speaker 4: major that required me to have really hard. Classes and

443
00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,679
Speaker 4: So i'm hooping And i'm hooping on the, court and

444
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,000
Speaker 4: then my grades are not really like doing that. Well

445
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 4: and So, tara because you, know they check in on,

446
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,679
Speaker 4: you like we're on the court, System they're checking on

447
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,600
Speaker 4: you every. Quarter So tara, came she brought me into the.

448
00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,240
Speaker 4: OFFICE i was, like oh my, Gosh like what's going?

449
00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,720
Speaker 4: On AM i? Trouble and so she's, like you know,

450
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 4: what like no one would know that you're struggling in the,

451
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 4: Classroom like why are you doing this to? Yourself like

452
00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,120
Speaker 4: what can you do to help balance what you need

453
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,960
Speaker 4: to do on the court and in the. Classroom AND

454
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 4: i told, HER i was, Like i'm not gonna lie to,

455
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,200
Speaker 4: her like this major That i'm trying to That i'm

456
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,520
Speaker 4: trying to achieve is really really. Difficult she's like it's

457
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 4: hard for, anyone let alone a student, athlete and so

458
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 4: she was, like just figure out something that you think

459
00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,119
Speaker 4: suits you. More and she was, like you AND i

460
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:19,959
Speaker 4: are you AND i are a lot. Alike and at

461
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:25,600
Speaker 4: the TIME i was, LIKE i was like. Totally she was,

462
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 4: like you, know like it's hard for us to ask

463
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 4: for help at, times but you sometimes it's important for

464
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 4: people to like step in that can kind of like sense.

465
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 4: You AND i really took that to heart AND i was, Like, Okay,

466
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 4: tara thank, YOU i appreciate. That so she set me

467
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,760
Speaker 4: up with WHO i needed to to really get to

468
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 4: WHERE i needed to be great on the court and

469
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 4: in the.

470
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 6: Classroom tell me, This, so freshman, year you make you,

471
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 6: know you make all packed, in but y'all lose To Yu.

472
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 3: Kon yeah you lose To Yu.

473
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 4: Khon yeah we lost in the first.

474
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,639
Speaker 6: Game then sophomore, year you give. Back this, year you

475
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,879
Speaker 6: packed in player the. Year but now y'all get to

476
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,879
Speaker 6: the Chip yukon maya more than.

477
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 4: Movie that was a hard. One that was the hardest.

478
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 6: One so tell me about. That BUT i also want

479
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 6: to hear about junior year when y'all beat.

480
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 3: Them and knocked them off and broke the ninety game.

481
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,880
Speaker 4: Win street, yeah, SO i mean there was so much

482
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 4: history in the four years THAT i was. There you, know,

483
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 4: obviously like coming into, School yukon was a top, Team

484
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 4: tennessee was a top. Team Notre dame was up and.

485
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 4: Coming YEAH i could, have BUT i went To. Stanford

486
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 4: but that first, year you know a lot of my

487
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 4: experience was, like you, know eyes wide, open kind of

488
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 4: like dough. IDE i was very new to all of.

489
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,640
Speaker 4: It you, know we go to on the final, FOUR

490
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 4: i think it was In Saint louis and, YEAH i

491
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 4: think it was In Saint, louis AND i was just, like, okay,

492
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,200
Speaker 4: cool you know this is you, know this is really big.

493
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 4: Deal like we got to try and, win and we

494
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 4: played well the whole season to get to the final.

495
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 4: Four AND i think that that first, YEAR i think

496
00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 4: that we were just playing two nervous you, know we

497
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 4: were playing too. Nervous they had a really great, team Had,

498
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 4: tina they had Had Tiffany, hayes like they had, everybody

499
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 4: and SO i think that was like a really big learning,

500
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 4: lesson especially you, know not being on the team the

501
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,400
Speaker 4: year before when they went to the final, four which

502
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,640
Speaker 4: was actually kind of amazing BECAUSE i was at THE

503
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 4: i don't know if they still do. It they had

504
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 4: the W bca and like All, americans SO i was

505
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 4: there right when they were at the final four of

506
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 4: the year, before and so LIKE i felt, it you.

507
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 4: Know and the next, YEAR i, think you, know we

508
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 4: kind of let ourselves down and then we just kind

509
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 4: of keep up this standard of. Excellence and then my

510
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 4: sophomore year was, like, okay, cool like we are, vibing

511
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 4: like we're really coming out. Here we're, vibing we're. Hooping

512
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 4: and it was tough BECAUSE i think they said that

513
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 4: that year that might have been like the lowest scoring

514
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 4: halftime of any final, four and it was, LIKE i,

515
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 4: MEAN i feel like at halftime we barely had any.

516
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 4: Points it was like either in the twenties or the

517
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 4: thirties or something like. That we were. Playing, man you're,

518
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 4: right but it was so that one was really heartbreaking

519
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 4: because like we were, up it was so, close And

520
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 4: jane it was actually playing on a broken, foot and

521
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,199
Speaker 4: so we ended up losing that, one and then we

522
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:11,880
Speaker 4: were just kind of, like, man we can't keep coming

523
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 4: here and, losing you. Know AND i think that after that,

524
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 4: year it was it was kind of like a real

525
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 4: culture shift of, like, hey, like we've done this three

526
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 4: years in a, Row like there's a reason why we're

527
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 4: in these. Positions and so the next, year that junior,

528
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 4: year was a really big year for. Me and that

529
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 4: was also the first YEAR i played With. Cheney So

530
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 4: cheney came to the team and she's sitting at home watching.

531
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,199
Speaker 4: Everything you, Know i'm coming home telling her all these.

532
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 4: Stories and we have one of the hardest preseasons That

533
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 4: i've ever. Experienced and you, know we've had to Play, Tennessee.

534
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 4: YUKON i think at the time we even Played, Xaviers

535
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 4: yeah and yeah the preseason and so we're, like oh my,

536
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 4: gosh this is. Crazy and so we get to The

537
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 4: yukon game and at this, point this is my junior.

538
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,359
Speaker 4: Year we haven't lost a game at, home and so

539
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 4: that's kind of what we're walking, with like we've never

540
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 4: lost a game In maples AND i will never forget

541
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 4: how we prepared for that game was Guarding maya and

542
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 4: so like our practice, squad they did some, amazing amazing,

543
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 4: things like they really personified each, player played like each,

544
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 4: player and by the time we got to that, Game

545
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 4: chaney knew when my was gonna tie her shoe like it.

546
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 4: Was she was like she looked like she looked like

547
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 4: a rabid dog out, there and it was it was

548
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 4: just that was probably one of the games WHERE i was, like,

549
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 4: wow like this is, basketball you, know like this is

550
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 4: basketball and people don't even know the preparation it takes

551
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 4: to get to, that to execute the game, plan to

552
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 4: deal with obstacles in the, game and we were able

553
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 4: to maintain like our home game.

554
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 6: Stand how crazy did the campus go when y'all LIKE

555
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 6: i remember that it was ON.

556
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 3: Tv, yeah old campus and like the area like for the,

557
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 3: LIKE i, know it was.

558
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 4: Crazy, yeah it was really really. CRAZY i will say,

559
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 4: that you, know we had amazing fans that would come.

560
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 4: In it was so loud In. MAPLES i want to

561
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 4: say that Doctor Condeliza rice was at the, game you,

562
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 4: know because she teaches At stanford and so it was

563
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 4: just one of those games that you'll never never. Forget

564
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 4: AND i loved it for the. CULTURE i loved it

565
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:20,719
Speaker 4: for the culture for women's.

566
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 1: Basketball how is it to you, know you in college

567
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: and the level of play that y'all going to every

568
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 1: single year by your senior, year that's a lot of,

569
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: Stuff like how was it to just go four years

570
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: or that intense every year and you know how it

571
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: is to get you and drilling. Up so for us

572
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,239
Speaker 1: to go all the way to the final, four and

573
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: some of them was losses and some of them was

574
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: highs and. Low so how was it at your senior

575
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:52,719
Speaker 1: year when you got to? It do you feel like

576
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 1: it was like a lifetime.

577
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 4: Of, yeah, definitely it felt like a. Lot you, know

578
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 4: it felt like a lot because also, too you have

579
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 4: to realize like you're not just a student. Athlete but

580
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 4: then also like as A, hooper you want to play

581
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,719
Speaker 4: each season as long as you, can and we are

582
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 4: literally playing every possible game every single. Year, yeah and

583
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 4: so it almost feels like just like a, grind a,

584
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 4: grind a. Grind and then by the time my senior year,

585
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 4: came you, KNOW i felt more like a. Vet BUT

586
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 4: i wanted to make sure that the experience and the

587
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 4: standard of WHICH i, entered you, know was still. Maintained

588
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 4: AND i THINK i also kind of like wanted to

589
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 4: have more. Fun so like my senior year is definitely

590
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 4: a little bit more about having, fun keeping that home

591
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 4: game winning streak alive and also making sure that you,

592
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 4: know Like cheney's, here. Now SO i was, like, yo,

593
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 4: see LIKE i played two years without, you we played

594
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 4: two years. Together now you're going to have to play

595
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 4: two years on your. Own by the TIME i became a,

596
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 4: SENIOR i felt like a.

597
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 6: Vet you said the standard though twenty two and ten

598
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 6: First Team All American John, wooden that was you, know,

599
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 6: hey little.

600
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 3: Sis this is how it's. Done.

601
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 4: Now, yeah you broke all my. Records AND i was,

602
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 4: like if it's anyone THAT i want to, do it's.

603
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 2: You for.

604
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 4: Sure she did her.

605
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: Thing was it a no brainer for her to come

606
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 1: To stafford because you were?

607
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 4: There? No and she visited other. Schools she visited different

608
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 4: schools THAN i. Did m. Hm SO i Visited duke

609
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 4: And baylor In. Stanford she Visited Notre, Dame connecticut And.

610
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 4: Stanford uh. Huh and she, chose she chose to.

611
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: Come so now you know it's WNBA's draft. Time was

612
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: it a hard choice to think about what you was

613
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 1: gonna wear to the?

614
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 2: Draft?

615
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, no my mom picked up my. Outfit, yeah, yeah hardly.

616
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 4: ENOUGH i wasn't even really tripping about WHAT i was gonna.

617
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 4: WEAR i THINK i was just kind of, Like i'm

618
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 4: like one of those people WHERE i don't really think

619
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,479
Speaker 4: about things until like it like. Happens Like i'm not

620
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 4: someone who's like trying to determine their. Fate i'm a

621
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 4: very disciplined. Person SO i trust that my destiny is

622
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 4: going to happen the way it should IF i do

623
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 4: the things every, day IF i am like the same every,

624
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 4: day you, know IF i do my best try to

625
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 4: be my best self every. Day and so like by

626
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 4: the time the draft, came it was just kind of, like,

627
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 4: oh the draft is happening today and you're in. It

628
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 4: like that's kind of how it. Was my mom helped

629
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 4: me pick out my outfit and, everything and THEN i

630
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 4: started kind of understanding because like you, know they're, like,

631
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 4: oh you're probably gonna go number. One you're probably gonna

632
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 4: go number. One and shene was the first person that

633
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 4: told me THAT i was probably gonna go number. One

634
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 4: and so she was just, like you can do medical school.

635
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 4: Later it was After tennessee at, HOME i, remember AND i,

636
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 4: LIKE i think it was my career high. SCORING i

637
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 4: scored like forty, something, yeah AND soe was, like do

638
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 4: you not see what you're? Doing like after the, game

639
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,719
Speaker 4: she was, like you could do medical school. Later you're

640
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 4: gonna get drafted number. One and this is of course

641
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 4: like EARLY Espn chene and she doesn't even know. It

642
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 4: so then by the time the draft, Comes i'm, like,

643
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 4: okay this is, happening you, know And i'm thinking, about oh,

644
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 4: yeah draft number, one But i'm not thinking about, like

645
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 4: this is where you're going to be. Living this is

646
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 4: like your new life. Life and in hindsight Now i'm,

647
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 4: like it was such a. BLESSING i, mean still TODAY

648
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 4: i think. So but like to be drafted TO la

649
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 4: Considering i'd been At, Stanford i'd already had like The cali.

650
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 4: CONNECTION i played In Staples, center you, know we played

651
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 4: THE la, schools and so when the day, CAME i

652
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 4: actually got drafted on my mom's birthday and so it

653
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 4: was just a very special.

654
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 6: Day, yeah how was it getting drafted to come here

655
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 6: and playing With cannis poker right?

656
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 4: Away you? Know it was funny BEFORE i got, HERE i,

657
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 4: REMEMBER i think it WAS i forgot when it, was

658
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 4: BUT i was at the SP's one time AND i was, like,

659
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 4: hey you, KNOW i think it was WHEN i Got

660
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 4: gateoray play at theye when she sat at our, table

661
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 4: it was either me Or cheney AND i was, like, Hey,

662
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:38,719
Speaker 4: candice nice to meet. You LIKE i knew who she,

663
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 4: was and at the, time she was still At tennessee

664
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 4: and SO i was, like, okay you, know nice to meet.

665
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 4: You and she was, like, oh, hey nice to meet.

666
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 4: You and so circling back AFTER i got, DRAFTED i

667
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 4: forgot HOW i hit her. UP i want to. Say

668
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 4: it was maybe like On twitter or, something AND i was, like, Hey.

669
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 4: CANNESS i don't know if you remember. ME i had

670
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 4: literally just got, drafted BUT i met you had The

671
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 4: Gatoray player of The. YEAR i just wanted to Say

672
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 4: i'm excited to be IN. La she was, LIKE i

673
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 4: know who you, are and SO i was, like, okay.

674
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 4: COOL i didn't really know how to like greet, you, Know.

675
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 4: Candice and SO i get TO la and my first

676
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 4: experience WITH cp was like before training. Camp she invited

677
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 4: me and che che helped me move. Down she invited

678
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 4: me And chene to go To LAILA i Think layla

679
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 4: was turning like three or, four to go To laila's birthday,

680
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 4: party and so that was like my first. EXPERIENCE i was, like, oh, Man,

681
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 4: like you, KNOW i grew up in, family family being

682
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 4: important and so like being invited to that and like

683
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 4: seeing that it meant a lot for, me and then

684
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 4: just getting to, practice knowing that every Day i'm gonna

685
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 4: have to be guarding. HER i was, like if, Anything

686
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 4: i'm gonna be a good. Defender so it was. Fun

687
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 4: it was really.

688
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: Fun so seeing that connection y'all to playing together and

689
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: right away it instantly. Clicked but you got teams out,

690
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: there like Like minnesota and all these other teams getting

691
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: to THAT wnba and seeing, like, oh it's a lot

692
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: of power going, on it's a lot of.

693
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 2: Things you got To rossie over. There how was it for?

694
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:08,719
Speaker 4: You it was. Daunting it was scary because WHEN i

695
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 4: entered the, league it's so. Interesting it was all about The,

696
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 4: West like everybody in The west could heal. You and

697
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 4: that was something THAT i understood very early. On the

698
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 4: first rivalry THAT i was made known of Was la And,

699
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 4: Phoenix like that was like a really big. Thing and

700
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 4: so at the, time you, know you Had Kandas, Dupree,

701
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 4: douana you HAD, dt you Had Penny, taylor like you

702
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 4: had a squad over, there and then you had you,

703
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 4: Know sue In seattle and at the, time Like tina

704
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 4: was still on the. TEAM i want to SAY lj

705
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 4: was even on the. TEAM i Think Tanisha wright was

706
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 4: on the.

707
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: Team.

708
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 4: Swim i'm just, like, man, like everywhere you, turn there's,

709
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 4: team there's somebody, play there's somebody to. Beat and that

710
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 4: was kind of like my first intro and, like of,

711
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 4: course like you, know The East coast teams at the

712
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 4: time weren't that, strong but they weren't, chumps you, know

713
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 4: you still had to hoop and getting comfortable with knowing

714
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 4: that every game was not going to BE i think in,

715
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 4: college especially coming from like a high level, team not

716
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 4: getting used to like you're going To you're gonna lose some,

717
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 4: Games you're gonna get blown out some. Games every game

718
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 4: is not going to be an automatic. Win so that's

719
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 4: something THAT i learned very early.

720
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 6: On how was it for, You like in rookie, year

721
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 6: you get out, there you Win rookie of The month

722
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 6: four out of the five, Times like did you feel, like,

723
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 6: Yeah I'm i've ADJESTED i should Be rookie of the.

724
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 6: Year did you get to a point at some point

725
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 6: where you felt, THAT.

726
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 4: I, MEAN i think the impostum it was always LIKE

727
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 4: i couldn't. Happen MAYBE i don't know.

728
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 3: You telling you then, like, oh.

729
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 4: Yeah for. Sure calling me From, Stafford i'm, like, Sulday

730
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 4: oh my, gosh this is so. Different but but you,

731
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 4: know LIKE i don't, KNOW i just for me until it,

732
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 4: happens just want to, like you, KNOW i start to

733
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 4: believe it a little. Bit and, also like WINNING roi

734
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 4: wasn't really like the end game for. ME i wanted

735
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 4: to come in AND i wanted to be a key

736
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 4: piece to the. TEAM i wanted to be an. ASSET

737
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 4: i want to come in every. NIGHT i want to

738
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 4: help the team, win and you, know everything else kind of.

739
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 4: Follows and also, too Like i'm, balancing like, Okay i'm

740
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 4: hooping here in the league and then you're slapped with

741
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 4: and now you're going overseas And i'm like. Whoa you,

742
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 4: know like living what feels like those two different lives

743
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 4: was just so.

744
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 6: Different how was that going overseas and like you, say living.

745
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 4: That, Life, YEAH i mean it didn't occur to me

746
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 4: THAT i was actually going to be to do that

747
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,959
Speaker 4: living In poland my first year until LIKE i got

748
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 4: there AND i was, like, oh, shoot Like i'm In.

749
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: Poland you didn't even think about the summer after. You,

750
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: no like you go straight from the season from college

751
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: straight to W.

752
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 4: Nba, yeah and you think.

753
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 2: About after that couple of, months WHAT i supposed to

754
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 2: do after?

755
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 4: That, No like you have the, draft you move and

756
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 4: then YEAR i basically was at training camp like a

757
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 4: week or two before it. Started start training, camp you

758
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 4: do the, season and THEN i had like ten days

759
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 4: AND i was In. Poland AND i did that for

760
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 4: like seven, years and so my first, YEAR i was, Like,

761
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 4: Okay i'm. Hooping you, Know i'm over here thinking like

762
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 4: let's try to make, playoffs, this that and the, other

763
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 4: and you, know it didn't end the way we wanted.

764
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 4: To and it was always so hard back then because

765
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 4: well only one team could come out of The, west

766
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 4: and so we were always either trying to Beat phoenix

767
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 4: trying to Beat many and then by the time that,

768
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 4: ended now it's, like, okay you're going. Overseas and my

769
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 4: parents were integral to, like you, know in the, beginning

770
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 4: they liked signed my agent and it was very much

771
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 4: a family, affair so like they knew WHERE i was.

772
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 4: Going they knew all of the intricacies of like my,

773
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 4: deal and they're, like, hey you're going To poland AND

774
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 4: i was, like all, right. Cool so right after the,

775
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 4: SEASON i go To, poland AND i just know that

776
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 4: my job is to, Hoop SO i go out. THERE

777
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 4: i practice every. DAY i hoop my rookie year in every,

778
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 4: way both AT wnba and, OVERSEAS i did not leave my.

779
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 4: ROOM i just would go to, practice, hoop get, food go,

780
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 4: home Watch Criminal, minds like that's. ALL i was doing

781
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 4: a lot of episodes again got me. Through SO i

782
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,959
Speaker 4: that's just WHAT i. Did and even overseas the same.

783
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 4: Thing they, said hey be here at this. Time i'm,

784
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 4: like all, right? Cool is the gym open? Early all right?

785
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 4: Cool i'm a. Shoot you, know that's just kind of

786
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 4: WHAT i. Did was it.

787
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 2: Anywhere else In poland in the seven? Years like did

788
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 2: you go Any?

789
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah so my rookie YEAR i was In, poland

790
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 4: and then my second YEAR i was In, china and

791
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 4: then for the next four years after, THAT i was In,

792
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,399
Speaker 4: russia and then one year After, RUSSIA i was In china.

793
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 2: Again was that the same, spot, dude that Like sue

794
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 2: And land played.

795
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 4: For No No, NO i played for of? Course oh, okay, yeah,

796
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 4: yeah how?

797
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 3: Dope was? It like you, said you having a?

798
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 6: Success you having and then you Watching shane come right behind,

799
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 6: you she'd come be a top pick and then y'all

800
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 6: the first sister to be in The All Star game.

801
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 3: Together, like, yeah how dope is that for? You and

802
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 3: her and the.

803
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 4: Family just such a. Blessing you. KNOW i don't think

804
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 4: that anyone had any expectation Of chinee to, do if

805
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 4: not better than WHAT i was. Doing and so when

806
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 4: she was doing her, thing it was, like oh, shoot

807
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 4: like let's keep this. Rolling and you, know WHEREVER i,

808
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,959
Speaker 4: WAS i was always paying. ATTENTION i was always trying

809
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 4: to call, her let her, know like she would call

810
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 4: me asking for advice and any game THAT i could,

811
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 4: make especially like during the playoffs or doing The Final,

812
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 4: FOUR i was there AND i was cheering her on

813
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 4: because you, KNOW i Think cheney wants to be great,

814
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 4: too you, know and everything that she, does and she

815
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 4: found her way that suited.

816
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: Her let me ask you about, this The Minnesota Sparks,

817
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: series the, championship when you just tell us just how

818
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: intense because you're playing against Five hall of famers like

819
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: they started five is going to Be hall Of.

820
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 4: Famers seven on that. Court EVERYTHING i was just, like AND.

821
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: I just watched like the end of the last, game you,

822
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: know you're tiping you had kind of like a rough offensive,

823
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: game not all around game because you read it.

824
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 4: Was hard for me to find a boocket in that.

825
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 2: Game, yeah but and the way you got the last.

826
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: Bucket BUT i just watched that last sequence of the

827
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: dime you gave To.

828
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 4: Kansas she saved my life on. THAT i told her

829
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 4: in the. TIME i was, like you saved my life

830
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 4: BECAUSE i don't know WHAT i was going to.

831
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: But just tell us just just go through that series

832
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 1: and just playing Against maya and playing against their talent

833
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: and going against they because everybody had them being y'all.

834
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah everybody that's. Crazy. YEAH i don't, know we're

835
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 4: gonna have to revisit, that.

836
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 2: But everybody ON tv put it like.

837
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: THAT i felt like everybody was just like because they

838
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: they was a, dynasty they was winning the last couple of.

839
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: Them i've definitely felt that y'all had the firepower to beat.

840
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 4: Them, YEAH i mean those two, YEARS i would Say

841
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 4: i've never experienced any type of energy environment like anything like. That,

842
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 4: EVER i don't Think i've ever expecerience like. That to,

843
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 4: me was probably like those two years is like the

844
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 4: height of like my human, experience because you, know we're

845
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 4: over here building what we can try and. Build and

846
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 4: we assemble this team and we have a lot of

847
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 4: core foundational. Pieces you got the links WHO i always

848
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 4: tell people, this And i'm not sure if people truly value. This, okay,

849
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 4: yeah they won four, ships but to go to the

850
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 4: finals that many years in a, ROW i don't think

851
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 4: people understand how difficult that. Is like you can shame

852
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 4: them for losing, Whatever, no don't do. That going to

853
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 4: the finals consecutively that many, times that is a. Lot

854
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 4: so when we got to the point where we were

855
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 4: kind of you, know feeling, like, hey this is starting

856
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 4: to feel like. Something you, know we got ab and

857
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 4: we have kt Me, candice like all of these different

858
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 4: pieces together Now. Jantell of course we Added chelse essence

859
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 4: like we had all these yeah, yeah and so you

860
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 4: know we're just like we're just trying to like build

861
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 4: and you, Know phoenix is there and there's always that

862
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 4: rivalry Of. Phoenix but then now all of a, sudden

863
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 4: everyone sees the big, dogs you, know and that's the

864
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 4: team to. Be that's the team if you can try

865
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 4: to dream to beat. Them but they were the type

866
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 4: of team where like they weren't just, talented they were,

867
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 4: connected they were.

868
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 1: SMART i feel like you had too much fire, power

869
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: like all them on the same.

870
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 4: Team yeah like.

871
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 3: THAT i mean they made.

872
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 4: It they figured they got the best of them when

873
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 4: they got, STILL i was, like you, guys can't be. Serious,

874
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 4: yeah but it. Was it was, fun Man like being

875
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 4: that competitive every night against a certain team was just.

876
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 4: Fun and then in, SIXTEEN i think that was the

877
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 4: year when we both started off undefeated for like several.

878
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 5: Weeks, yeah how did that feel to get, like, no

879
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 5: you got me first, year second, year this is wallatmil

880
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 5: you put me through.

881
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 4: EARLY i mean, honestly like for, Me i'm kind of

882
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 4: more internally, motivated so LIKE i don't REALLY i don't

883
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 4: really like hit myself or like compare myself to other,

884
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 4: people BUT i recognize greatness And i'm, Like, okay if

885
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 4: you're gonna be, Great i'm gonna bring my, greatness you,

886
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 4: Know like that's kind of HOW i. Am AND i

887
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 4: mean between the two, teams you have MVPs dpo wise

888
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 4: like everything like Future hall Of. Famers it's, Insane brookie

889
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 4: of the, Years LIKE i don't know how many rookie

890
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 4: of the. Years we had all that team of both.

891
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 2: Teams.

892
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 4: Yeah so then we get to the matchups and it's, like, okay,

893
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 4: cool they got the first. One they stay, undefeated like

894
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 4: all right, Cool and then then it just became like

895
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 4: a tip for. Tat it was, like, okay we play you,

896
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 4: guys all, right we're gonna we're gonna smack, that.

897
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 2: Us gonna come.

898
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 4: Here, yeah you, know like. That it just became back and.

899
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 4: Forth and then when you get to sixteen and you

900
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 4: get to the that was the first year that they

901
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 4: changed the playoff format and we were so grateful because

902
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 4: would you ever want we wouldn't have seen a playoffs

903
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 4: between the two of. Us it was Two west. Teams

904
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 4: so we get to the, playoffs we have our buys

905
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 4: and we get there and it's just like every, game

906
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 4: it's just like a fight to the. Finish it's just

907
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 4: a fight to the, finish and like every, game it

908
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 4: was a different person that was making a. Play you,

909
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 4: know the first game it was A b and then

910
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 4: you Have whalen making, Plays mom making. Plays you, know

911
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 4: you GOT cp making, plays and by the time we

912
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 4: got to game, five it was like it was Inten

913
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 4: it was zero.

914
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 3: Zero, yeah tell me.

915
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 6: This you've been an eight time all start of overall

916
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,439
Speaker 6: in One Pig, Champ rookie of The, YEAR mvp Euro League.

917
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 6: Champion how come and we didn't talked about this before

918
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 6: we edge you, On like how have you? Not what

919
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 6: have you been told about why you haven't been ON usa?

920
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 4: TEAM i, mean, honestly you know they tell everyone the same, thing,

921
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 4: like and it's, true it's, hard it's only, twelve but

922
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 4: you know it's a or. THIRTEEN i think it's a

923
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 4: hard team to. Make it definitely is it's a hard

924
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 4: team to.

925
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 1: Make the work is it's on the?

926
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 4: Play, YEAH i MEAN i will say that was the

927
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 4: first time THAT i was, like let me just look

928
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 4: at my. Risbone you can see the m V.

929
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 3: P not to have made made one of those? Teams

930
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 3: that's do you feel?

931
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: Like because, uh you, know your sister is more, talkative

932
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: she's more in the. Camera that's that's her, thing that's

933
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: just her. Personality but you are more. Humble you're a.

934
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: Killer we know that when you get on the, court

935
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: because the accolades and everything explained.

936
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 2: Itself you're a world.

937
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 1: Champion but is it because you you feel like you're

938
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: so nice and so humble that it kind of penalized, you, because,

939
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: LIKE i feel like you're one of the most underrated

940
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: W nba players right, Now like they talk about a

941
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: lot of, players but it seemed like every, Yeah i'm, like, man.

942
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 2: She be busting the ass and they don't know the

943
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 2: fuck going.

944
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 4: On, YEAH i, MEAN i think you have a good.

945
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 4: Point AND I i've mentioned this. Before i'm not sure

946
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,720
Speaker 4: IF i mentioned in, interviews BUT i feel like sometimes

947
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 4: when you are the nice, one, yeah like sometimes people

948
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 4: know that that's not going to, happen and so you,

949
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 4: know in that, way you can be, expendable and, Like

950
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 4: i'm not the only type of person that's like, that you,

951
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 4: KNOW i think. THAT i think that at, times like

952
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 4: when you are, disciplined when you do what they, ask

953
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 4: when you, say, hey LIKE i haven't caused any. Problems

954
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 4: that's also an advantage for those who are making the

955
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 4: decisions because they know that you won't cause any. Problems

956
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 4: but for, Me chaney always has this thing she, SAYS

957
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 4: i don't take things. PERSONALLY i take, Notes and SO

958
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 4: i was, like that was definitely a situation where LIKE

959
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 4: i didn't take things, PERSONALLY i took NOTES i remember

960
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 4: everyone that was supporting me through during that. TIME i

961
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 4: remember everyone that Wasn't, like that's just something that you

962
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 4: just have to like keep in. Mind but you still

963
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 4: you still have. To my dad always, says you have

964
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 4: to walk in, grace like you still have to give

965
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 4: grace your. Blessing, no you don't want, to but then

966
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,439
Speaker 4: you also have to stand up for yourself in certain.

967
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 4: Times and when those times, come there's always a time

968
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 4: and place for those types of.

969
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: Situations you was you happy to like a teammate Like

970
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,919
Speaker 1: canvas her saying something can damper something that she got

971
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: on and going on in her own life from other,

972
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: People but still for her stepping up and saying, like,

973
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 1: NAH i just don't feel like that one right there.

974
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 3: Was, Right.

975
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 4: YEAH i Mean CEP's always going to step up and say,

976
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 4: something you, know and she doesn't have. To, YEAH i

977
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 4: mean she was in a situation where she also you, know,

978
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 4: yeah exactly where it did not make. Sense, Yeah AND

979
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 4: i think one thing about her is that she's always

980
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 4: she's always going to talk about what does and does

981
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 4: not make, sense and she's going to give her. Opinion

982
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 4: she's not scared of.

983
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 6: It as the president of THE Wnba Players, association how

984
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 6: do you feel like as far as like the growth

985
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 6: you guys have, had and, like obviously it's been talk

986
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 6: about getting more teams and the necessity for more, Teams

987
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 6: like how do you feel you, know from how far

988
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 6: you guys are? Come obviously it's a long long way

989
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 6: still to, go but how do you feel where things

990
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:56,720
Speaker 6: are getting?

991
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 4: TO i, MEAN i think THAT i think the, players the,

992
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 4: game everything is, evolving AND i want to make sure

993
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 4: that the business evolves with it. Now of, course Like

994
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 4: i'm not in on the day to. Day i'm a

995
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 4: part of The Players, association SO i know certain, things you,

996
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 4: know with my role and responsibility as a. President BUT

997
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 4: i just really feel like there's a lot of things

998
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 4: that can be rectified on a, team on the twelve

999
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 4: teams that exist, now so that when we do expand

1000
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 4: we're not adding teams with the same, issues you. KNOW

1001
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 4: i really think that that is something that is kind of.

1002
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 4: PIVOTAL i also think that we have to be very

1003
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 4: considered considerably aware of like how people are watching our,

1004
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 4: Games like accessibility and visibility is huge for the women's

1005
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 4: game right, now you, Know like are we talking about

1006
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 4: broadcast deals or are we talking about streaming? Services like

1007
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 4: what really makes? Sense you, know like where can we

1008
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 4: get more? Eyes, yeah that's where it's. Going how can

1009
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 4: we make it easy for people to? Watch you? KNOW

1010
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 4: i think that using that to our advantage to grow the,

1011
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 4: game both from the players and the league side together

1012
00:46:59,080 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 4: is something that's really.

1013
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 2: Important start bench.

1014
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: Cut you gotta start one a little when you got

1015
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: a trade One tamika, Catchings hryl, swoops Oh maya, More.

1016
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 4: Oh my, gosh whill you start.

1017
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 2: Who you bench who you?

1018
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 3: Cut just sip my cup and.

1019
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 2: We can see the. TRADE i don't want to. TRADE

1020
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 2: i won't cut.

1021
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 4: Nobody i'm gonna have to start. Swoops i'm gonna have

1022
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,720
Speaker 4: to bench cut and THEN i Trade.

1023
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 2: Maya oh, okay, Okay.

1024
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 3: Well that's a rap.

1025
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 6: Man we've been blessed today with w N B a

1026
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 6: and basketball. Greatness we appreciate you for putting up in that.

1027
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 4: One thanks for Having World champion all THAT w twenty.

1028
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:55,120
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1029
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,920
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1030
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1031
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1033
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,760
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1034
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,880
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00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,480
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1036
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