Speaker 1: This is Alec Baldwin and you're listening to Here's the
Speaker 1: Thing from iHeart Radio. Not long ago, there used to
Speaker 1: be two types of comedians, comedians and female comedians. Today
Speaker 1: there are so many women making us laugh that the
Speaker 1: qualifier has been rendered obsolete. Saturday Night Live deserves a
Speaker 1: lot of the credit for this development. The show has
Speaker 1: introduced us to Gilda Radner, Jan Hooks, Maya Rudolph, Tina Fey,
Speaker 1: and Kristin wigg to name just a few. But there's
Speaker 1: been another woman at SNL, a woman who's been quietly
Speaker 1: working day after day for seventeen years, often without sleeping,
Speaker 1: to usher in.
Speaker 2: This reality seventeen years, I've been there yet.
Speaker 1: Paula Pell was working at a Florida theme park when
Speaker 1: she got her dream job as a writer at Saturday
Speaker 1: Night Live. Because the show has such a wide comedic range,
Speaker 1: it's the perfect challenge for Paula. You've got the hard
Speaker 1: hitting news parodies, and then on the other end, you.
Speaker 2: Know, it's got fart jokes. It's got everything in it
Speaker 2: of the low parts of comedy. Mostly me being responsible
Speaker 2: for Thailand ALBM of Alec Baldwin taking a shit in
Speaker 2: a bed while he's sleeping.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Helen albm At least it is a gentle sleep
Speaker 3: bait into your system that allows deep, restless sleep from
Speaker 3: up to ten hours, so deep it turns off your
Speaker 3: brains need to control the bodily functions most likely to
Speaker 3: wake you.
Speaker 4: Rachel was like, did you just shit yourself?
Speaker 1: I've slept like a baby.
Speaker 2: Done.
Speaker 4: You tell me, you tell you tell me, you tell me,
Speaker 4: you tell me.
Speaker 1: In her memoir Bossy Pants, Tina Fay writes that her
Speaker 1: proudest moment as head writer at SNL was fighting for
Speaker 1: one of Pell's sketches introducing co Text. Classic Classic co
Speaker 1: Text is a commercial for the feminine protection of Yesteryear,
Speaker 1: featuring the sexy women proudly encumbered with bulky pads connected
Speaker 1: to belts peeking out of their clothes. I always know
Speaker 1: it's sad.
Speaker 4: You can't beat the original.
Speaker 1: Room girls, old school Paula pel In person is genuine,
Speaker 1: charming and easy, the kind of person you might actually
Speaker 1: talk to if you sat next to her on a plane, which,
Speaker 1: for those of you not in the industry, is not
Speaker 1: a description of the typical comedy writer.
Speaker 2: I was always a bit of a class clown. I
Speaker 2: was a good Catholic girl. So I always wanted to
Speaker 2: be I never wanted to get in trouble, but I
Speaker 2: really pushed the envelope because I would be funny in
Speaker 2: class and i'd do things like one of my teachers.
Speaker 2: I would do a bit where I would go buy
Speaker 2: him and drag my hand along the chalk line, you know,
Speaker 2: the chalk shelf, and then I'd come over and i'd say,
Speaker 2: you know, mister Grocer, just a really great teacher, and
Speaker 2: I'd pat him on the back and i'd leave like
Speaker 2: a handprint. He'd let me make him a little bit
Speaker 2: the full for a moment, and then he'd do you know,
Speaker 2: he looked like Roberry and all in the family at
Speaker 2: the big bushy mustache in the lawn there he paid
Speaker 2: it along. He just kind of looked a camera three,
Speaker 2: you know, non existent, and the audience would you know,
Speaker 2: the audience the class would crack up. Or i'd pass
Speaker 2: notes and say when I sneeze, because I have a
Speaker 2: really good fake sneeze. And I would say when I sneeze,
Speaker 2: everybody fall off their chairs.
Speaker 4: And you know, I'd.
Speaker 2: Always be doing something. But I grew up with an
Speaker 2: extremely funny dad and my mom is what to do.
Speaker 2: He worked for ILLINOI Bell. We grew up in Illinois
Speaker 2: and then moved to Orlando when I was a teenager.
Speaker 2: But my entire childhood, my grandpa was a watchmaker for
Speaker 2: West Clock's, So my dad always learned that from my grandpa.
Speaker 2: And then when he came to Florida, he worked for
Speaker 2: AT and T for many years, and then when he retired,
Speaker 2: he became a teacher of watch repair, watch making, all
Speaker 2: all of it.
Speaker 1: So how does the guy who works for the phone
Speaker 1: company and how does he and he becomes a watch tinkerer?
Speaker 1: How was the funny in his life which get home?
Speaker 4: He's just ungodly witty. He's he's really uh.
Speaker 1: Never wanted to be in the business andself or did
Speaker 1: he express probably did.
Speaker 2: But you know, I look at all the people in
Speaker 2: my family and all the relatives of different generations, and
Speaker 2: they all had their thing. You know, my mom has
Speaker 2: a beautiful singing voice. They all had something that they
Speaker 2: wanted to do. But the way they grew up was
Speaker 2: you just you know, you have kids early, and you
Speaker 2: you kind of figure out what you need to do
Speaker 2: to pay for that, and and so they you know,
Speaker 2: a lot of times didn't have the luxury that kids
Speaker 2: have now. Even though it's hard to get a job,
Speaker 2: to say, you know, oh I'm doing this.
Speaker 1: We'll get wrong with you that you didn't sign on
Speaker 1: to that program. What was wrong with you? Well, I
Speaker 1: they wouldn't just do what you were supposed to do.
Speaker 2: They knew that I was pretty hopeless. I mean at
Speaker 2: my confirmation where you get the Holy Spirit. I came
Speaker 2: down the stairs at my party and had torn like
Speaker 2: eighty holes in my panteos and said I had the
Speaker 2: Holy Spirit and just would do things like that all
Speaker 2: the time.
Speaker 4: You know, And this was before I drank or smoked anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was always a total hand. But my dad
Speaker 2: really taught me that he's the of like. I will
Speaker 2: tell you that. One of the hardest times I laughed
Speaker 2: at him is my mom and I were watching die
Speaker 2: Hard on television. My dad's cutting the yard, and he's
Speaker 2: outside cutting the yard. He's got his little jeen shorts
Speaker 2: on and his tank top, and he keeps coming in
Speaker 2: and walking by and kind of half listening. He's a
Speaker 2: really good, quiet half listener. But then he'll do something
Speaker 2: based on what he's been listening to. I, you know,
Speaker 2: was listening to my mom, and the terrorist had the
Speaker 2: long blonde hair, you know, the big like kind of
Speaker 2: Nordic guy at the.
Speaker 4: Beginning, Yeah, the ballet dancer.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And my mom says, you know, I don't know, but
Speaker 2: I don't like long hair, but that is pretty foxy,
Speaker 2: and she's like commenting on him. So we're laughing about
Speaker 2: it and everything. And then I'm not kidding. Like an
Speaker 2: hour later, my dad just walked through. He had gone
Speaker 2: in my room and gotten a wig that I had
Speaker 2: of all my shit in my room, put a long
Speaker 2: wig on with just his grass cutting stuff, and just
Speaker 2: walk through. He didn't stop, he didn't do a bit,
Speaker 2: He just walked through.
Speaker 1: They also knew that rule like that you keep the
Speaker 1: ball in the air and play along. They were good, Yes,
Speaker 1: without the training, they were good improv people. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: answers always yes.
Speaker 2: King of like a prop he'll just And what I
Speaker 2: love about it is my parents are in their seventies now,
Speaker 2: and you know, and my mom was always like you'd say,
Speaker 2: you know, you go, oh god, Dad is so funny
Speaker 2: to you.
Speaker 4: Thank god, thank god he's funny.
Speaker 2: We had so much laughter in our house, you know,
Speaker 2: despite any any dysfunction. As any family, we always laugh.
Speaker 1: Where did you go to college?
Speaker 2: I went to college at the University of Tennessee. I
Speaker 2: first went to a local college in Orlando, a community
Speaker 2: college for two years.
Speaker 1: So you moved to Florida.
Speaker 2: I moved to Florida. My dad went down for at
Speaker 2: and T for that antitrust suit that they had.
Speaker 1: When they broke up the thund.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like late seventies. You know.
Speaker 2: We had gone a few times down to Disney World
Speaker 2: with their little pop up camper, and like that was
Speaker 2: a vacation place.
Speaker 4: That wasn't a place you moved.
Speaker 2: And my parents sent us a little brought back a
Speaker 2: little polaroid of the house they bought, and it was,
Speaker 2: you know, about seventy thousand dollars. But it had this
Speaker 2: gigantic pool because in Orlando so many people have pool
Speaker 2: even with you know, inexpensive houses, and we just thought
Speaker 2: we won the lottery.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It was just insane. But we got there, and it
Speaker 2: was really hard the first year. I just never liked
Speaker 2: to be I mean, I think being new is a
Speaker 2: very important thing to do for growth. I think it
Speaker 2: really galvanizes a lot of stuff inside you of who
Speaker 2: you are and everything, and I'm glad in hindsight, but
Speaker 2: I used to just wake up in the morning and
Speaker 2: just cry, and you know, just because I had so
Speaker 2: much familiarity and comfort with all the kids that I
Speaker 2: went to school with. It's just I was always quiet
Speaker 2: at first, you know, and then by my senior year,
Speaker 2: I got really involved in school and the girls, you know,
Speaker 2: would go because I remember when you'd come in, you know,
Speaker 2: you came in your junior year and I'd say, oh, really, really,
Speaker 2: because I came in my sophomore year and sat next
Speaker 2: to you for an entire class and you were, you know,
Speaker 2: a cold little ass wipe to me.
Speaker 4: But you know that's right. Now we're friends.
Speaker 1: And what was the difference for you in terms of
Speaker 1: the people if you can, if you can character from
Speaker 1: Illinois to Florida, I mean Florida.
Speaker 2: Well, the biggest, I mean, one thing that really helped
Speaker 2: me was I was always I always sang. So I
Speaker 2: went in immediately into a concert choir, and so that
Speaker 2: was wonderful because then I had a social group pretty quickly.
Speaker 2: But the one thing about Florida that was so different
Speaker 2: that freaked me out was that, you know, I never
Speaker 2: thought I was growing up in Illinois in necessarily I
Speaker 2: mean a cold sort of atmosphere. It was emotionally warm.
Speaker 2: I had great friends, you know, my family warm. But
Speaker 2: when I got to Florida, everybody hugged constantly.
Speaker 1: Really, I was the other way.
Speaker 2: Everyone was so affectionate in such a crazy way that
Speaker 2: I remember saying, it's I remember coming home and going
Speaker 2: stop cupping my nipples tenor I don't know you in
Speaker 2: the choir, no, but people would. I kept thinking it
Speaker 2: was our director's birthday or something. I was like, what
Speaker 2: the hell's going on in here? Everyone is hugging our teacher,
Speaker 2: hugging each other. I realized it was just that was
Speaker 2: just the way everyone did, you know. And then my girl,
Speaker 2: my who eventually became my girlfriend of many years, was
Speaker 2: my best friend in high school and we were very huggy,
Speaker 2: and that all worked.
Speaker 1: Out because I was the right person.
Speaker 2: Not the teacher, not until after we graduated exactly.
Speaker 1: Then then you went to the college down there.
Speaker 2: I went to the college for two years down there,
Speaker 2: and I studied what well. Their theater department was amazing,
Speaker 2: their art department was incredible, and I was also an artist.
Speaker 2: Seminole Community College but I mean the heads of those
Speaker 2: departments and the music department were so incredible that today
Speaker 2: they still are some of my favorite people that have
Speaker 2: Tennessee got time because my art professor, Grady Kimsey, who
Speaker 2: I'm a really good friend with still he had gone
Speaker 2: to ut years and years ago, just kept saying, you
Speaker 2: got to go check out you tea. And then my
Speaker 2: girlfriend was going to North Carolina, so it kind of
Speaker 2: you know, I'd go up and visit, and I'd never
Speaker 2: been up in those mountains, and I just fell in
Speaker 2: love with those there because I'm such a nature freaking Yeah,
Speaker 2: I went crazy for it.
Speaker 1: And when you left there, what happened?
Speaker 2: And then I finished college and I came home and
Speaker 2: I worked at the theme parks.
Speaker 1: What's that like with how do you get the job
Speaker 1: at Disney? Like, who's is there somebody who's like a
Speaker 1: casting person?
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, there's talent people.
Speaker 2: And you know, I had worked with an improv group
Speaker 2: called Ssach Theater in Orlando. They at the time contracted
Speaker 2: out to Disney. So they did all the like in
Speaker 2: Epcot in Italy, the Canadia, dell Art. You know, they
Speaker 2: would do all the comedy. That's kind of the roaming,
Speaker 2: atmospheric comedy. And then they built Pleasure Island, which was
Speaker 2: the nighttime Disney.
Speaker 4: You know, all the night clubs Pleasure Island, Pleasure Island,
Speaker 4: Welcome Come, Mickey has No PANSA.
Speaker 2: An entire island they built that had all these clubs.
Speaker 2: They had like a big discotheque. They had a country
Speaker 2: Western sort of music club. It was just kind of
Speaker 2: like a strip of nighttime establishments, but all in Disney.
Speaker 4: But it was late night and the.
Speaker 1: Kind of a downtown feel, like a cluster like South Streets.
Speaker 2: And they would have like New Year's Eve every night,
Speaker 2: so they'd have dancers come out and they'd dance. And
Speaker 2: it was really a fabulous place to work as a
Speaker 2: young actor because it felt cool and I could and
Speaker 2: I did a lot of improvisation. But then we also
Speaker 2: did like radio shows and singing. We could be kind
Speaker 2: of dirty. I mean, it wasn't filthy. I didn't go
Speaker 2: full tilt my typical filth that you know of well, I.
Speaker 4: Didn't pell out.
Speaker 2: But you would interact with the guests, so there you know,
Speaker 2: you'd be sitting there with some old British dude who's
Speaker 2: getting drunk and just get into a conversation, and I
Speaker 2: played Pamelia Perkins, the president of the Adventures Club, and
Speaker 2: it was kind of a Teddy Roosevelt era sort of place.
Speaker 2: And I had this big bufont and I could just
Speaker 2: be as body as hell. I mean I would get
Speaker 2: on guy's laps and you know, have my legs up
Speaker 2: in the air because I was like a matron sort
Speaker 2: of character. And we used to have such a blast.
Speaker 2: But then also during that time I went down Penis
Speaker 2: Avenue for about two years, I was dating men for
Speaker 2: a little while. I would hook up with people, I
Speaker 2: mean just meeting like different people. I'd meet, well, just guests,
Speaker 2: and you know, you'd meet some super super charismatic, handsome person.
Speaker 2: You'd be sitting there laughing and you'd be in costume,
Speaker 2: and then they'd be like, what are you guys doing after.
Speaker 1: You do the characters? What do these characters do next?
Speaker 2: And there was a restaurant and there were bars down
Speaker 2: the street that they would let us after work go to.
Speaker 2: So you just take change all your clothes and you know,
Speaker 2: blow dry the shit out of your hair and go.
Speaker 2: Now I'm twenty five again. And I'd walk down there
Speaker 2: and and it was New Year's eve every day it
Speaker 2: was New Year's but you vomited every day and lost
Speaker 2: your virginity every day.
Speaker 4: That's what was the Pamelion Pamelia Perkins.
Speaker 1: Pamelia, Pamelia Perkins. Of course he is banging the guests too.
Speaker 2: At a time, I mean for an actor. At that time,
Speaker 2: I was making really good money and had full insurance everything,
Speaker 2: had a car, rented a little house.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: It was kind of fun.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 2: It was a beautiful little It was a beautiful life.
Speaker 2: And then I got stir crazy with it. And that
Speaker 2: was just about when happened.
Speaker 1: But how does that happen? How do they find you?
Speaker 3: It was?
Speaker 2: It was a beautifully random, amazing thing.
Speaker 5: We'll be back in a minute.
Speaker 2: I had worked with Sex Theater. They had a theater downtown.
Speaker 2: They would call me every so often and I'd go
Speaker 2: do a set with them where I do a character
Speaker 2: that I had written. And so they said, you know,
Speaker 2: we're going to do this sketch comedy pilot called Chucklehead.
Speaker 2: And they said will you be in it and do
Speaker 2: those characters? And they said sure. I mean I was
Speaker 2: doing like I got beat up in America's most wanted
Speaker 2: you know, all the local, all the things that were
Speaker 2: shooting in Orlando, I would do, you know, And I
Speaker 2: did this lottery character for years in about three states
Speaker 2: that was played the Worlitz Org and you know sexy
Speaker 2: characters Alec, you know, but all from the Matron Handbook.
Speaker 2: I was born at fifty Alec. But they called me.
Speaker 2: My agent called me one day and she said, are
Speaker 2: you sitting down?
Speaker 4: I said yes.
Speaker 2: She said, Saturday Night Live saw that pilot Lauren wants
Speaker 2: to meet you. And I'm like, okay, for what? And
Speaker 2: she goes, now, it is not an audition, but he
Speaker 2: wants to fly you up and talk to you. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, what is it?
Speaker 4: An orgy? Am I being summoned for.
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 2: In the f And I said okay? And so I
Speaker 2: flew up there, you know, talk about defecating. I mean,
Speaker 2: it was like Emodium City the entire two days of
Speaker 2: getting there. He was two hours, you know, or three
Speaker 2: hours late for the meeting, but he was super nice.
Speaker 2: And I sat with Marci Klein and Ayala in the
Speaker 2: talent room and I was so nervous that they ordered
Speaker 2: food and they said, we're ordering zen Palette, you know, vegetarian.
Speaker 4: We're ordering zen palette. Do you want anything?
Speaker 2: And I said, just a just like a coup of
Speaker 2: white rice would make good, just like rice. And I
Speaker 2: just got a dry cup of white rice and set
Speaker 2: and ate it. I went in and he said, we
Speaker 2: have just cleaned house. It was ninety five. It was
Speaker 2: when Will Ferrell and everybody came. He said, we've cleaned house.
Speaker 2: We're starting over. You know, it's gonna rise again. We're hoping,
Speaker 2: and we're gonna try to infuse it with new talent,
Speaker 2: and we would like to hire you to be a writer.
Speaker 2: When I was like, oh, well, I've never done that.
Speaker 2: I you know, I don't even I mean, I didn't
Speaker 2: even use a computer at that point. And I said
Speaker 2: I can't, you know. And if you tell them you can't,
Speaker 2: then they will. You will keep saying well, and he said,
Speaker 2: well we'll show you.
Speaker 1: You know, we have people.
Speaker 4: But it was so quick.
Speaker 2: That it made me worry that there was something wrong,
Speaker 2: like there was a scam or something like this was
Speaker 2: all some kind of frickin' joke, because I was like,
Speaker 2: this can't be.
Speaker 1: And so soon after that, were you moving to New York?
Speaker 2: I had five days to move, packed up, my whole
Speaker 2: life gave my animals to my mom temporarily.
Speaker 1: Farewell to Pleasure is up.
Speaker 2: To New York City, and you know, just was just
Speaker 2: ungodly miserable, and I mean with fear. But Mike Shoemaker
Speaker 2: called me right before I left because I was starting
Speaker 2: to freak out to the point of going, I'm going
Speaker 2: to my dream place. I mean, I was obsessed with us.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: When I was little, I used to audio tape it.
Speaker 2: I used to perform Rosanna and Rosanna Dana for my
Speaker 2: high school in the auditorium, and I thought, I'm just
Speaker 2: going to be sitting around with like, you know, ten
Speaker 2: Harvard dudes looking at me, going, who the fuck is
Speaker 2: who hired Kathy Bates Light and you know, and why
Speaker 2: is she? And I adore Kathy Baits, by the way,
Speaker 2: but they were just you know, I thought they I
Speaker 2: would be so not of their world, of these writerly.
Speaker 4: Sort of people.
Speaker 2: And I didn't realize how many writers there are performers.
Speaker 2: And so Shoemaker called me, and I still thank him
Speaker 2: for this because he really is the reason that I
Speaker 2: ended up getting.
Speaker 4: The balls to get there.
Speaker 2: But he called and he said, some people want to
Speaker 2: say hi, And it was you know, Cindy can Up
Speaker 2: and Era and Lori Nesso and all these people that
Speaker 2: were new that were terrified, and they all got on
Speaker 2: the phone going, we can't wait to meet you. And
Speaker 2: I hung up the phone and I just burst into tears.
Speaker 2: I said, it's all going to be okay. No matter what,
Speaker 2: it's going to be okay. It's just a group of people.
Speaker 2: It's almost like of all the years of doing plays.
Speaker 2: It's like it's a new cast. You're seventeen, You're getting
Speaker 2: in a cast seventeen years. I've been there yet seventeen,
Speaker 2: and I was it changed?
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 2: I think in general, comedy has gotten a little, you know,
Speaker 2: it's gone through its ebbs and flows in terms of
Speaker 2: things being more character driven or or you know, more conceptual.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that show always has a great
Speaker 2: amount of both. And I always loved the fact that
Speaker 2: that show had something for everybody. You know, I'd sit
Speaker 2: with a group of people that I'd love certain things
Speaker 2: and they'd love certain things, and so I, yeah, I
Speaker 2: love I love the balance, you know, I love the
Speaker 2: balance of it. But one of the biggest things that's
Speaker 2: changed in general to me is the Internet. Because when
Speaker 2: I was growing up and you were an actor, you
Speaker 2: had to create a body of work by really doing
Speaker 2: it and getting hired, and then they would give you
Speaker 2: access to tape of it. You know, you couldn't just
Speaker 2: go on machines and videotape yourself and make a beautifully edited,
Speaker 2: great comedy piece and put that on the internet. I mean,
Speaker 2: you just can't do it. I mean my reel I
Speaker 2: just remember, you know, I do a tiny role in
Speaker 2: something and just love that. I was adding that to
Speaker 2: my reel, and you'd have to go to like a
Speaker 2: video place and pay the guy to sit there and
Speaker 2: do it on the gigantic machine.
Speaker 1: The Internet has changed things profound Yeah, it.
Speaker 2: Just and I think in a bad way. It gave
Speaker 2: people a sense of entitlement of there isn't as much
Speaker 2: awe of all of it because they do it themselves.
Speaker 2: So it's like, oh, yeah, I have you know this
Speaker 2: and I've done my show. You know, they create it themselves,
Speaker 2: which is very empowering and wonderful. And it's also getting
Speaker 2: a lot more comedy out there of hilarious people that
Speaker 2: would never usually walk into a room nervous and an audition,
Speaker 2: right right, right.
Speaker 1: So that seems to me to have been the condition
Speaker 1: for me, which is I'd come to SNL and the
Speaker 1: signals that I picked up in nineteen ninety Jan Hooks
Speaker 1: and all that crowd back then was you know, my
Speaker 1: career wasn't that iconic to send up me and my
Speaker 1: career And so it's not like I'm Stallone or Schwartzenegro
Speaker 1: or something like that where we do that. So you
Speaker 1: come in and right away you pick up I've got
Speaker 1: to become like everybody else and become a member of
Speaker 1: the company, right right. And as soon as I got that,
Speaker 1: as soon as I kind of picked up that vibe
Speaker 1: from them, I was, you know, asked to come back
Speaker 1: and come back and come back. And what it does
Speaker 1: is for me as a performer, it's killed everything else
Speaker 1: that's supposed to be funny. And I wonder what that's
Speaker 1: like for you where you're in the world where you
Speaker 1: work with the funniest people. No matter what people say
Speaker 1: about SNL, you know, it's not always going to work,
Speaker 1: but when it works, it's I think it's the best.
Speaker 1: What's it been like for you?
Speaker 2: Well, you get so you get so insultly, you know,
Speaker 2: isolated there in great ways and weird because it's there's
Speaker 2: nothing like it. You cannot compare that experience with anything,
Speaker 2: but it really is so intense. And you you know,
Speaker 2: I started writing movies two years ago and working into that,
Speaker 2: I realized how stretched out the time is, to the
Speaker 2: point where, you know, I mean, we'll go between dress
Speaker 2: and air and Lauren will say, I don't like the
Speaker 2: whole top of that, like, add, you know, a couple
Speaker 2: new jokes. So you're coming up with new jokes at
Speaker 2: eleven fifteen, and so let me let me just.
Speaker 1: Put a finer point on that for our radio audience,
Speaker 1: our podcast audience, because that SNL does a full dress
Speaker 1: rehearsal at eight o'clock on Saturday night with an audience
Speaker 1: with a lengthier show. And let's say normally they have
Speaker 1: seven sketches on the air show, they do like eleven
Speaker 1: sketches at eight, and they're going to pick what worked
Speaker 1: best and then they're going to be right. So when
Speaker 1: that finishes at ten, maybe ten fifteen, maybe ten thirty, who.
Speaker 4: Knows, it's a long show.
Speaker 1: It's a long show. And then you've got an hour
Speaker 1: where you're sitting in a room. And in that hour
Speaker 1: between shows, that's when Lauren and the Pretty and the
Speaker 1: riders edit that show and choose what they're going to
Speaker 1: do and ask for rewrites.
Speaker 2: And they're getting rid of that audience. They're bringing in
Speaker 2: a new one. The band is warming up the new audience,
Speaker 2: and you'll walk through and have a task to change something,
Speaker 2: and you're walking by these people that are walking in
Speaker 2: to their seats looking like I'm so excited I'm here,
Speaker 2: and you're like, I don't know what we're going to
Speaker 2: have for you, but we're going to do it right now.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: I did a Bobby and Marty one time with Will
Speaker 2: and Anna, and they found out that we were losing
Speaker 2: time quickly, and so they said, you have to take
Speaker 2: like two minutes out of this. I mean it just
Speaker 2: and it was between the commercial break. So I went
Speaker 2: downstairs and I was kneeling down with the cue card people.
Speaker 2: They were just putting tape over sections and we're like.
Speaker 4: Okay, does that make sense? Does it does? And go with.
Speaker 1: The drown our children?
Speaker 2: And I'm pretty sure that if like doctor Oz did
Speaker 2: my actual age. You know how they test you and
Speaker 2: you're actually I'm probably one hundred and eighty now because
Speaker 2: the stress of that. It's just such adrenaline and you know,
Speaker 2: but I mean the beautiful thing about SNL is hosts
Speaker 2: will come in and and you know, never you because
Speaker 2: you were always very approachable. Whenever anyone asked me about hosts,
Speaker 2: I always tell them that, you know, you are always
Speaker 2: one of my favorite hosts. I'm not blowing air up
Speaker 2: your culo.
Speaker 4: I get at I'm going to look that way. What
Speaker 4: is kulo?
Speaker 1: And as yeah, well yeah, if you're blowing smoke up.
Speaker 4: And could you have men do have other holes.
Speaker 2: But like you know, hosts will come in with their
Speaker 2: people and and they're very nice and very scared, but
Speaker 2: they they have a little bit of that sometimes because
Speaker 2: they're fearful and they have people protecting them. And by
Speaker 2: the end of the week, they're just always at that
Speaker 2: after party. You know, they're sitting with everybody and laying
Speaker 2: across everybody because it feels like theater. It feels like
Speaker 2: I'm in theater camp. And this is what I miss doing.
Speaker 1: More from Paul la Pel In a moment, this is
Speaker 1: Alec Baldwin and you're listening to here's the thing. Paul
Speaker 1: la Pell has been writing sketches at SNL for seventeen years.
Speaker 1: But like any of us. Sometimes she just gets tired
Speaker 1: of comedy.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Yeah, you don't want.
Speaker 1: To watch My Sorrow and the Pity.
Speaker 2: No, my gal of fourteen years. She watches a lot
Speaker 2: of TV, and she watches shows that I wouldn't generally watch,
Speaker 2: like Castle or you know, like hawife I BO, or
Speaker 2: like murdersh and I mean, you know, murder shows, CSI
Speaker 2: and CIS.
Speaker 4: She'll watch all She'll tape.
Speaker 2: She'll tape all these shows in like elementary, all these
Speaker 2: new shows, and I'll get totally hooked on things and
Speaker 2: realize that I just love I always loved having drama
Speaker 2: and comedy together. I mean, that's the fun thing about
Speaker 2: writing movies now is you can have a moment that's
Speaker 2: just a heart wrenching moment in a comedy that's that's real.
Speaker 2: You know, that feels more three dimensional, because after seventeen
Speaker 2: years of sketches, you do get a little stir crazy
Speaker 2: with feeling like you're just writing something on the surface.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's great to make people laugh, but when
Speaker 2: I go home, I love to watch dramas or some
Speaker 2: reality things.
Speaker 4: I love to just not think about comedy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I do the show and I go
Speaker 1: out there and it's really and I'll say, I'm never
Speaker 1: doing this. Yeah, this is ridiculous. I can't be bothered
Speaker 1: with this toasty Thisiclou too young. These people are all young,
Speaker 1: and they're all crazy and they're all pure Isle and
Speaker 1: all they talk about is foughts and Brazias and so forth.
Speaker 1: And then it's I'm gonna go do as you like
Speaker 1: it in the park. Then of course, you know, Lauren
Speaker 1: calls me. I'm like, no, okay, yeah, well he'll call
Speaker 1: me like I get thrown off the plane on American
Speaker 1: Airlines for playing words with friends. The phone rings like
Speaker 1: three four days there, it's Lauren and he literally literally
Speaker 1: he literally goes, so perhaps we should do something. And
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, oh my god, I can't believe
Speaker 1: you people are insane.
Speaker 4: This would be the week. This would be the week.
Speaker 1: This would be the week, you know, which like that
Speaker 1: thing where we have to do it now, but you
Speaker 1: can't say no to them. You feel like your family.
Speaker 2: You just forget how immediate it is, you know. Years
Speaker 2: ago I did a sketch with with a little young,
Speaker 2: little sweet faced justin Timberlake when he was in sync.
Speaker 2: I used to write a sketch called six Degrees Celsius
Speaker 2: and it was like a boy group and Will Ferrell
Speaker 2: was their manager and he had to stay three hundred
Speaker 2: feet away from them because clearly he had done some
Speaker 2: inappropriate things. He had tinted glasses.
Speaker 4: Of course, you know.
Speaker 2: It was Jimmy Fallon and Chris Catan and Horatio and
Speaker 2: they were and they were Chris Parnell and they were
Speaker 2: a boy group. And then we'd have the host in
Speaker 2: it well that week and sinc was there. We asked
Speaker 2: in Sync to be another boy group in this competition
Speaker 2: on the show, playing a fake boy group, and so
Speaker 2: I wrote a song called hold the Pick, and they
Speaker 2: were like McDonald's employees, and so En Sing came out
Speaker 2: with like McDonald's outfits on and saying hold the pit girl,
Speaker 2: and they're so they were so crazy talented, like they
Speaker 2: got there and looked at it for ten minutes and
Speaker 2: had full harmonies and full choreography. I mean they threw
Speaker 2: that shit together. I was just amazed they came on.
Speaker 2: And then you remember what was the MTV thing every
Speaker 2: Sunday like the Big I can't think of the name
Speaker 2: of it, but the show the like show that they'd
Speaker 2: show all the videos and everything at that time. Do
Speaker 2: you remember what that was? Okay, well, anyway, it was.
Speaker 2: It was a very I do know the big video show,
Speaker 2: you know, the big video show that the kids used
Speaker 2: to dance to. But the next morning, I'm in my
Speaker 2: little apartment and you know, I probably ordered four entrees
Speaker 2: from some to go things to eat my pain, because
Speaker 2: you always did. On Sunday and I turned on the
Speaker 2: TV and Justin Timberlake was on TV on the show
Speaker 2: at noon in Times Square, and there were just hundreds
Speaker 2: of girls down there waving to him, and they had
Speaker 2: a banner with the words to the song hold the
Speaker 2: Pickle on the banner that they had painted. And I
Speaker 2: was looking at it, going that cannot be because we
Speaker 2: just did this, like I just woke up and we
Speaker 2: just and then I just remembered like I used to
Speaker 2: get obsessed. You know, I didn't have the Internet, I
Speaker 2: didn't have videos, but back at the day, I mean,
Speaker 2: my god, if I.
Speaker 4: Would have grown up in the Internet era, I would have.
Speaker 2: Been the queen of like, you know, just having my
Speaker 2: own fan site. Yeah, because I just loved it and
Speaker 2: I wanted and we were having a funny conversation the
Speaker 2: other day.
Speaker 4: In my journals. When I was young, I.
Speaker 2: Would talk about Rocky because I was obsessed with Rocky
Speaker 2: Sylvester Stallone and the very first Rocky movie.
Speaker 4: And I would talk about, like, in.
Speaker 2: Two weeks people Magazine's going to have an article about him,
Speaker 2: and I would wait until we got that magazine and
Speaker 2: then I would take it home and I'd cut it
Speaker 2: out and put it in a script. You know, you
Speaker 2: had to wait to get information or a photo of someone,
Speaker 2: or if you really loved to singer, you had to
Speaker 2: wait for their album to come up. And now you
Speaker 2: just you just observe.
Speaker 1: Years older than you are. Remember when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: there was no cable, there was no DVD. The trailers
Speaker 1: for movies and the build up, the ramp up of
Speaker 1: a campaign to advertise the film was or at least
Speaker 1: it seemed so far reaching back then. I'll never forget.
Speaker 1: We went to The Godfather and I was underage and
Speaker 1: we snuck in. I forget how now we stood in
Speaker 1: line and it was like three screenings, you know, like
Speaker 1: one o'clock, four o'clock, seven o'clock, and you go to
Speaker 1: the top of the line and didn't get in. So
Speaker 1: you waited another three hours, you know, reading Mad magazine
Speaker 1: or some crap we read back then.
Speaker 2: And I always say, now people wait to stream a
Speaker 2: movie and it's like, you know, four minutes to stream
Speaker 2: it in their tip and their foot and going come on, yeah.
Speaker 1: You know exactly. And the other thing is that they'll
Speaker 1: watch twenty minutes of it. Then they'll pause and they'll
Speaker 1: go talk on the phone and they'll go play in it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now you are? You left to do a television show?
Speaker 4: I left.
Speaker 2: I left about six years ago to do I wrote
Speaker 2: au pilot called Thick and Thin that was about two
Speaker 2: fat sisters that grew up fat and one gets really
Speaker 2: hot and thin and beautiful.
Speaker 4: NBC. Yeah, we shot the pilot.
Speaker 2: It got picked up for like thirteen, but it was
Speaker 2: a bad year for multi camera sitcoms. It was kind
Speaker 2: of when they were getting phased out. And it was
Speaker 2: also about a subject that was a little weird still
Speaker 2: back in that era of you know, there wasn't a
Speaker 2: whole bunch of stuff with weight stuff. And I really
Speaker 2: wanted like real people that look fat, you know, that
Speaker 2: look fat because I had struggled with my weight all
Speaker 2: my life and lost huge amounts of Wait a couple
Speaker 2: times in my life. Sharon Glass and Martin Bull played
Speaker 2: the parents, and they played my parents, so it was
Speaker 2: their names. They did all my dad's stick. I mean,
Speaker 2: it was really a special thing. My parents came to
Speaker 2: the pilot, and you know, it was it was very
Speaker 2: emotional and wonderful and fun. But the process of developing
Speaker 2: a network show like that is so hard, and I really,
Speaker 2: in hindsight learned so you know, learn so many things
Speaker 2: after the fact.
Speaker 1: You know, it's one thing you learned that you can say,
Speaker 1: what'd you learn?
Speaker 2: Well, the biggest thing I learned was I'm a people
Speaker 2: pleaser and I always like to get to know people
Speaker 2: and see the good sides of them, and I wanted
Speaker 2: to have a lot of positive energy with them because
Speaker 2: I had known so many people that develop stuff that
Speaker 2: were like welcome to hell. You know, everyone just gets
Speaker 2: so negative about it. And I thought, you know what,
Speaker 2: I'm going to go into this. I'm so lucky to
Speaker 2: be doing this. I'm so thrilled. But I befriended everyone
Speaker 2: so intensely, you know, especially like network people and everything.
Speaker 2: I befriended everyone, so then there was this sort of
Speaker 2: discomfort at telling them things they didn't want to hear,
Speaker 2: or me pushing back in bigger ways. And because I
Speaker 2: had already established that we're all just friends and we're
Speaker 2: all having fun and we're laughing, then they would suggest
Speaker 2: things that were just show ruining and I would just
Speaker 2: be like, okay, well, you know, and I just at
Speaker 2: the time didn't really have my voice as a creative
Speaker 2: person to lead something like that, you know, so I
Speaker 2: regret that, and I regret not pushing more. I mean,
Speaker 2: casting was, you know, a little brutal, just because of
Speaker 2: the weight thing is they would they would bring people
Speaker 2: in that were I wanted real people that were you know,
Speaker 2: I wanted the other sister to be to be a
Speaker 2: real heavy person. And when they'd audition heavy people sometimes
Speaker 2: I'd watch their faces when they're auditioning them, and they're
Speaker 2: kind of like looking at their bodies, and I'm going,
Speaker 2: this is not good. They don't get it that like
Speaker 2: the you know, Roseanne was freaking huge hit show. It's like,
Speaker 2: come on, I don't even remember who said this to me,
Speaker 2: but one of the network people pulled me aside during
Speaker 2: one of the castings and she said, did you audition
Speaker 2: this other girl for that part? For the heavy sister
Speaker 2: and I said no. I auditioned her for the thin sister,
Speaker 2: and she said, you couldn't pad her, could you. And
Speaker 2: I just remember walking away going, this is so dead
Speaker 2: in the water.
Speaker 1: You know, now movies, You're doing a movie now?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I did.
Speaker 2: I worked a little bit on Bridesmaids. I just came
Speaker 2: a couple of different times and just you know, pitched
Speaker 2: jokes on the set, did that kind of thing. Had
Speaker 2: never done anything movie wise ever, And I really really
Speaker 2: had fun doing it. I really enjoyed it. And then
Speaker 2: I jud started hiring me to do some rewrites on
Speaker 2: different movies and punch ups and stuff, and I started
Speaker 2: to see, you know, because I had tried to get
Speaker 2: into it before in other eras of my life. But
Speaker 2: at the same time, I had had an idea for
Speaker 2: a while about my journal, my childhood journal, of doing
Speaker 2: something with it. I wanted to do a little play
Speaker 2: based on it. I'd wanted to do something with it,
Speaker 2: and Tina had, you know, I'd read it to her
Speaker 2: many times in s and L I'd read it to
Speaker 2: people before I came up with an idea for a
Speaker 2: movie to do to pitch, and I pitched it to
Speaker 2: Universal and they bought it with Tina attached to it
Speaker 2: as a producer and potentially to be in it, And
Speaker 2: so I wrote that that's in the work. So we're
Speaker 2: waiting to find out all the finals on you know,
Speaker 2: on that, what's happening with that. It's it's it's been
Speaker 2: you know, gone through its rewrites and all that. So
Speaker 2: I'm excited about that about two sisters and Judd and
Speaker 2: I just wrote a movie, and then last summer I
Speaker 2: worked on my first full movie experience with This is forty.
Speaker 2: I was the executive producer on that.
Speaker 1: This sounds horrible, but do you ever wonder what it
Speaker 1: would be like if you and your wife were separated
Speaker 1: by something bigger death like her death? I have given
Speaker 1: it a fair amount of thought, not in any painful way,
Speaker 1: but is like a gentle floating off. It's got to
Speaker 1: be peaceful.
Speaker 3: I mean, this is the mother of your children.
Speaker 1: And then the new wife would be great.
Speaker 5: God, I can't wait to meet my second wife.
Speaker 1: I hope she likes me better than this one.
Speaker 2: I've finally kind of gotten my foothold in the movie
Speaker 2: thing now and it's really fun.
Speaker 4: I really love it.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a lot of it's a lot of
Speaker 2: waiting around for news on things. It's a lot of
Speaker 2: you know, I can't plan anything because you don't know
Speaker 2: what your next year is going to be a different
Speaker 2: find out. But so beautiful to be able to work
Speaker 2: at home with my animals and D and just like
Speaker 2: to be.
Speaker 1: Our home buddy, aren't you Well you always come bacted
Speaker 1: the same thing when I've spoken to you with Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was despondent when you left because you know it
Speaker 1: was you were such a great You're such a great rider.
Speaker 1: You're one of my favorite writers of all times. You're
Speaker 1: so funny. No but everything mean that and you And
Speaker 1: then when you left and you said the same that,
Speaker 1: You're like, Oh, just want to go home to D
Speaker 1: and my animals, my animal animal.
Speaker 4: I want to go live the lesbian life. I want
Speaker 4: to be on a lesbian far. I want to wear
Speaker 4: my dance go clogs.
Speaker 2: I want to get a mag light and go under
Speaker 2: a dumpster and get some feral cats.
Speaker 4: Out of there.
Speaker 2: I have a horse up there, I have, you know,
Speaker 2: just it's so beautiful and inexpensive up there in the
Speaker 2: Hudson Valley. It's like the amazing place, but also just
Speaker 2: I'm realizing too, just the finite amount of time. You know,
Speaker 2: I've spent more time since I've been doing the movie
Speaker 2: stuff the last two years, I've spent more time with
Speaker 2: my family. I've been down in Florida a lot to
Speaker 2: visit them. It's just feeling so much better for me.
Speaker 2: And also, I love like Lauren whenever I'm there. I
Speaker 2: did the Louis ck Show, and I'm doing this next
Speaker 2: to here, and and you know, Lauren will say to
Speaker 2: it's still fun, right, it's fun. You had fun, and
Speaker 2: I go, oh my god, it's amazing. But if I
Speaker 2: did it all the time now, I would be like
Speaker 2: a you know, a bitter hag, because I just feel
Speaker 2: like I wasn't having time or energy to do other things.
Speaker 2: And also everyone is very young. I mean my nieces
Speaker 2: and nephews I saw delivered out of my sister's vagine
Speaker 2: and they are in their mid.
Speaker 4: Twenties and one's a physician's assistant.
Speaker 2: And I mean, I've named myself at SNL Nanny SNL
Speaker 2: because I'll sit at the reway table, like, what is
Speaker 2: the name of that where's that detective on television?
Speaker 1: I'm like, I call myself Grandpa Oh my god, I
Speaker 1: got you know, Grandpa, They'll knock on the door and
Speaker 1: sleeper ready. I'm like, Grandpa will be right there. I'll
Speaker 1: be right there. God jamm it.
Speaker 2: But if you have a good night there, you feel
Speaker 2: like you're twenty again. I mean, you know, if you
Speaker 2: have a night where you feel like I mean, last
Speaker 2: week I had a really fun scotch I wrote with
Speaker 2: Kate McKinnon for her and Louis c. K and it
Speaker 2: was funny and dirty and where they were at last
Speaker 2: call at a bar and they're just trying to find
Speaker 2: common ground because they know they're the only two people left.
Speaker 4: So they're like, wait, you're from Arizona. Oh my god,
Speaker 4: I'm from northern California. That's crazy. And they were.
Speaker 2: They made out in the most disgusting, face eating way
Speaker 2: you could ever imagine. And I just went home on
Speaker 2: that old school SNL high, just a whole high, you know,
Speaker 2: like the whole weekend, just bouncing off the walls. And
Speaker 2: then you start going, maybe I could do this all
Speaker 2: the time.
Speaker 4: I got no, I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 1: I would leave there after a good show, I leave
Speaker 1: there's I'm gonna be a cast edition.
Speaker 2: I'll do even odd shows like the gas Ration.
Speaker 1: Now now Twitter, You're on Twitter. On on Twitter? You
Speaker 1: kill me on Twitter?
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 1: I talk about like I was laying on a bed
Speaker 1: and I was having a great time and I was
Speaker 1: eating sacks and I was really cozy and everything was
Speaker 1: just I felt so great, and then security guard came
Speaker 1: up me. You know, tgget is closed.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the Tony Benet routine.
Speaker 2: People always really respond to my target tweets.
Speaker 1: Twitter is just another form for you.
Speaker 2: Twitter is really I got very addicted to it just
Speaker 2: because it's so simple and it's like a video game
Speaker 2: for comedy writers to just do a one liner about something.
Speaker 2: And I started doing these hey young girl tweets and
Speaker 2: I might do a little book of them maybe and
Speaker 2: illustrate it. You know, my nieces, I just used to
Speaker 2: drive them insane when they were.
Speaker 4: Growing up because I was so.
Speaker 1: Girls.
Speaker 2: I remember, Hey young girls, keep your boobs in your shirt,
Speaker 2: your button, your pants, your eyes on, your dreams, your
Speaker 2: head in the cloud.
Speaker 1: You know that I can also say the thing about
Speaker 1: you if the guy does this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the hey young girl stuff just came out of
Speaker 2: my nieces because I would bring them to Esnel and
Speaker 2: they were just these dropped out gorgeous girls. And they
Speaker 2: would have people I'm not talking about people just checking
Speaker 2: them out, but like at the if I brought them
Speaker 2: backstage or whatever, there'd be some some dude that would
Speaker 2: just end up coming up and saying, you know, really
Speaker 2: aggressive checking them out. And so they still imitate me
Speaker 2: how I would grab them with my meaty, polish firm
Speaker 2: wife arm and she's fourteen.
Speaker 4: You want to talk about it.
Speaker 2: I mean I would just become this raving crazy woman
Speaker 2: looking at them, like, you know, and so I always
Speaker 2: i'd always be like, are you're sexually active? I would
Speaker 2: always want to know all their details and everything.
Speaker 1: Like a character out of our rock huts and movie.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the chaperone, Yeah, I'm the chaperone.
Speaker 2: That's you're all sturrying my son away from the Hucci.
Speaker 4: You're a Lucie dancers.
Speaker 1: You know, you're a woman, and you're a woman in comedy.
Speaker 1: And comedy has changed a lot over the last forty years,
Speaker 1: but I you know, I feel like it's changed a
Speaker 1: lot over the last fifteen years. It's even more. You've
Speaker 1: got people who are much more you know, they're just
Speaker 1: like the guys I mean Sarah silvermen and people who
Speaker 1: are much more in living color, if you will. I
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you, you know, your assessment of that,
Speaker 1: how that's changed for women over your career, and also
Speaker 1: do you think that there's like certain glass ceilings still,
Speaker 1: like on late night comedy shows, like do you think
Speaker 1: they'll ever replace Letterman? Or like can a woman do
Speaker 1: that job? Because you have women hosting daytime shows, right
Speaker 1: and any one's on during the day, but the big
Speaker 1: three in the networks they don't have a woman doing
Speaker 1: that show. Do you think that'll ever change?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean it's you know, I remember that era where
Speaker 2: a couple of them were doing it, Joan Rivers and
Speaker 2: different people were trying it, and they were you know,
Speaker 2: they were all stand ups, but they had been around for.
Speaker 4: A long time, but not lately.
Speaker 2: So I feel like now a lot of those young
Speaker 2: funny girls are either getting their own show, you know,
Speaker 2: doing a show, a television show, but not a talk show,
Speaker 2: you know. I mean Jimmy, he's such a fan of
Speaker 2: everyone and so enthusiastic and joyful about music and everything
Speaker 2: that that was like a perfect fit for him and
Speaker 2: hilarious so he worked out so great for that. But
Speaker 2: I think with women it's also sometimes hard. At SNL,
Speaker 2: like with auditions now, where you go, well, you see
Speaker 2: people and you go, where are a lot of the
Speaker 2: super funny you know, super funny women and you know
Speaker 2: they're around, you know they exist, but a lot of
Speaker 2: them do. They are young, and they they're aggressively getting
Speaker 2: their own shows and stuff like that. The second year
Speaker 2: I was at SNL, second or third, I remember having
Speaker 2: an agent say to me, yeah, we got to get you, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, we got to get a game plan for
Speaker 2: you and get you know, so you can get get
Speaker 2: out of here and and get a get a show going.
Speaker 1: And all that.
Speaker 4: And I remember thinking, what are they talking about?
Speaker 2: I'm like, what are you talking about? You know, this
Speaker 2: is like the dream job. So but I think I
Speaker 2: think for women it's just like I've always said about
Speaker 2: us and L, it's like the funny rises to the
Speaker 2: top with it. And if somebody's super funny and has
Speaker 2: abandon and enjoy and they're not trying, you know, I
Speaker 2: don't like ever with a comedy person them acting like
Speaker 2: someone else or acting dirty just to be funny. I'm
Speaker 2: the filthiest person on earth. But if it's not funny dirty,
Speaker 2: if I'm not being funny dirty, you know, then forget it,
Speaker 2: because there's got to be some class to my to
Speaker 2: my vulvage.
Speaker 4: If a vul of a joke does not have a
Speaker 4: class to it, then forget it.
Speaker 2: But you know, for a while, there are some auditions
Speaker 2: I would watch where girls would come out and just
Speaker 2: try to just sex it up and be funny and dirty,
Speaker 2: you know, and it's like, that's not fun.
Speaker 1: And you feel like not all of them, certainly, but
Speaker 1: enough of them. They go out in front of a camera,
Speaker 1: a lot of them in the comedy world, and they
Speaker 1: think feel like, well, I don't want to go too
Speaker 1: far over this long because I don't want to lose
Speaker 1: this other things. I really would like to kiss Leo
Speaker 1: in a movie, right, I want to be as.
Speaker 5: Much I think.
Speaker 2: You don't want to see anyone thinking too hard while
Speaker 2: they're you know, the greatest auditions at SNL were people
Speaker 2: that came in purely as themselves, came in, did a
Speaker 2: bunch of crazy ass characters, and you just went, this
Speaker 2: is a force of nature?
Speaker 4: What is this? What is this human?
Speaker 2: Like? They were making me laugh so hard and I
Speaker 2: don't even know where they're getting it from.
Speaker 1: Women have the condition though, where it's like they sit
Speaker 1: there and they you know, I mean I've seen women
Speaker 1: who they would make fun of actresses, I mean about comedy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they would just tear apart. They would lacerate actresses who
Speaker 1: they thought were, you know, leaning too much on the
Speaker 1: sex button. And then those comedy actresses became stars and
Speaker 1: they popped another button and they put the makeup on
Speaker 1: their cleavage and they were like and they were just
Speaker 1: like they were camera ready. I mean, they became the thing.
Speaker 1: They made fun of it. Yeah, and you and you
Speaker 1: realize for women, that's a tough angle.
Speaker 2: How many girls tended to grow up being the goofy
Speaker 2: looking you know, the goofy looking ones that.
Speaker 4: Weren't getting the attention that way.
Speaker 2: So when they become famous and have a lot of
Speaker 2: money and people putting beautiful dresses on them, I think
Speaker 2: they do go They do go.
Speaker 4: That way, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've got a lot of pretty sparkly pantsuits
Speaker 2: I wear to the Emmys now, and I really get
Speaker 2: up my own ass on it.
Speaker 1: Because Paula Pell will soon be stepping out in those
Speaker 1: paths for the release of This Is forty, a film
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