1 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: This is Alec Baldwin and you're listening to Here's the 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: Thing from iHeart Radio. Not long ago, there used to 3 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 1: be two types of comedians, comedians and female comedians. Today 4 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: there are so many women making us laugh that the 5 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: qualifier has been rendered obsolete. Saturday Night Live deserves a 6 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: lot of the credit for this development. The show has 7 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: introduced us to Gilda Radner, Jan Hooks, Maya Rudolph, Tina Fey, 8 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: and Kristin wigg to name just a few. But there's 9 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: been another woman at SNL, a woman who's been quietly 10 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: working day after day for seventeen years, often without sleeping, 11 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: to usher in. 12 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 2: This reality seventeen years, I've been there yet. 13 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: Paula Pell was working at a Florida theme park when 14 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: she got her dream job as a writer at Saturday 15 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: Night Live. Because the show has such a wide comedic range, 16 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: it's the perfect challenge for Paula. You've got the hard 17 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: hitting news parodies, and then on the other end, you. 18 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: Know, it's got fart jokes. It's got everything in it 19 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: of the low parts of comedy. Mostly me being responsible 20 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 2: for Thailand ALBM of Alec Baldwin taking a shit in 21 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 2: a bed while he's sleeping. 22 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, Helen albm At least it is a gentle sleep 23 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 3: bait into your system that allows deep, restless sleep from 24 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 3: up to ten hours, so deep it turns off your 25 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 3: brains need to control the bodily functions most likely to 26 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 3: wake you. 27 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 4: Rachel was like, did you just shit yourself? 28 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: I've slept like a baby. 29 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: Done. 30 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 4: You tell me, you tell you tell me, you tell me, 31 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 4: you tell me. 32 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 1: In her memoir Bossy Pants, Tina Fay writes that her 33 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: proudest moment as head writer at SNL was fighting for 34 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: one of Pell's sketches introducing co Text. Classic Classic co 35 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: Text is a commercial for the feminine protection of Yesteryear, 36 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: featuring the sexy women proudly encumbered with bulky pads connected 37 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: to belts peeking out of their clothes. I always know 38 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: it's sad. 39 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 4: You can't beat the original. 40 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: Room girls, old school Paula pel In person is genuine, 41 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: charming and easy, the kind of person you might actually 42 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: talk to if you sat next to her on a plane, which, 43 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: for those of you not in the industry, is not 44 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: a description of the typical comedy writer. 45 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 2: I was always a bit of a class clown. I 46 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: was a good Catholic girl. So I always wanted to 47 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 2: be I never wanted to get in trouble, but I 48 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 2: really pushed the envelope because I would be funny in 49 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 2: class and i'd do things like one of my teachers. 50 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 2: I would do a bit where I would go buy 51 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 2: him and drag my hand along the chalk line, you know, 52 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: the chalk shelf, and then I'd come over and i'd say, 53 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 2: you know, mister Grocer, just a really great teacher, and 54 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: I'd pat him on the back and i'd leave like 55 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: a handprint. He'd let me make him a little bit 56 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: the full for a moment, and then he'd do you know, 57 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 2: he looked like Roberry and all in the family at 58 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 2: the big bushy mustache in the lawn there he paid 59 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,119 Speaker 2: it along. He just kind of looked a camera three, 60 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: you know, non existent, and the audience would you know, 61 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 2: the audience the class would crack up. Or i'd pass 62 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: notes and say when I sneeze, because I have a 63 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: really good fake sneeze. And I would say when I sneeze, 64 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: everybody fall off their chairs. 65 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 4: And you know, I'd. 66 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: Always be doing something. But I grew up with an 67 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: extremely funny dad and my mom is what to do. 68 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: He worked for ILLINOI Bell. We grew up in Illinois 69 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 2: and then moved to Orlando when I was a teenager. 70 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 2: But my entire childhood, my grandpa was a watchmaker for 71 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: West Clock's, So my dad always learned that from my grandpa. 72 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: And then when he came to Florida, he worked for 73 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 2: AT and T for many years, and then when he retired, 74 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: he became a teacher of watch repair, watch making, all 75 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: all of it. 76 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: So how does the guy who works for the phone 77 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: company and how does he and he becomes a watch tinkerer? 78 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: How was the funny in his life which get home? 79 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 4: He's just ungodly witty. He's he's really uh. 80 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: Never wanted to be in the business andself or did 81 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: he express probably did. 82 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 2: But you know, I look at all the people in 83 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: my family and all the relatives of different generations, and 84 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: they all had their thing. You know, my mom has 85 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: a beautiful singing voice. They all had something that they 86 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 2: wanted to do. But the way they grew up was 87 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 2: you just you know, you have kids early, and you 88 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 2: you kind of figure out what you need to do 89 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 2: to pay for that, and and so they you know, 90 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 2: a lot of times didn't have the luxury that kids 91 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 2: have now. Even though it's hard to get a job, 92 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 2: to say, you know, oh I'm doing this. 93 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: We'll get wrong with you that you didn't sign on 94 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: to that program. What was wrong with you? Well, I 95 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: they wouldn't just do what you were supposed to do. 96 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: They knew that I was pretty hopeless. I mean at 97 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: my confirmation where you get the Holy Spirit. I came 98 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: down the stairs at my party and had torn like 99 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: eighty holes in my panteos and said I had the 100 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 2: Holy Spirit and just would do things like that all 101 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 2: the time. 102 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 4: You know, And this was before I drank or smoked anything. 103 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was always a total hand. But my dad 104 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: really taught me that he's the of like. I will 105 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 2: tell you that. One of the hardest times I laughed 106 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 2: at him is my mom and I were watching die 107 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 2: Hard on television. My dad's cutting the yard, and he's 108 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 2: outside cutting the yard. He's got his little jeen shorts 109 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 2: on and his tank top, and he keeps coming in 110 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: and walking by and kind of half listening. He's a 111 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 2: really good, quiet half listener. But then he'll do something 112 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: based on what he's been listening to. I, you know, 113 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 2: was listening to my mom, and the terrorist had the 114 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: long blonde hair, you know, the big like kind of 115 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: Nordic guy at the. 116 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 4: Beginning, Yeah, the ballet dancer. 117 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 118 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 2: And my mom says, you know, I don't know, but 119 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 2: I don't like long hair, but that is pretty foxy, 120 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: and she's like commenting on him. So we're laughing about 121 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: it and everything. And then I'm not kidding. Like an 122 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 2: hour later, my dad just walked through. He had gone 123 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 2: in my room and gotten a wig that I had 124 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 2: of all my shit in my room, put a long 125 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: wig on with just his grass cutting stuff, and just 126 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 2: walk through. He didn't stop, he didn't do a bit, 127 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 2: He just walked through. 128 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: They also knew that rule like that you keep the 129 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: ball in the air and play along. They were good, Yes, 130 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: without the training, they were good improv people. Oh yeah, 131 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: answers always yes. 132 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 2: King of like a prop he'll just And what I 133 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: love about it is my parents are in their seventies now, 134 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 2: and you know, and my mom was always like you'd say, 135 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 2: you know, you go, oh god, Dad is so funny 136 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 2: to you. 137 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 4: Thank god, thank god he's funny. 138 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: We had so much laughter in our house, you know, 139 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 2: despite any any dysfunction. As any family, we always laugh. 140 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: Where did you go to college? 141 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 2: I went to college at the University of Tennessee. I 142 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 2: first went to a local college in Orlando, a community 143 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 2: college for two years. 144 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: So you moved to Florida. 145 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 2: I moved to Florida. My dad went down for at 146 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: and T for that antitrust suit that they had. 147 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: When they broke up the thund. 148 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like late seventies. You know. 149 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,239 Speaker 2: We had gone a few times down to Disney World 150 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 2: with their little pop up camper, and like that was 151 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 2: a vacation place. 152 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 4: That wasn't a place you moved. 153 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 2: And my parents sent us a little brought back a 154 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 2: little polaroid of the house they bought, and it was, 155 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 2: you know, about seventy thousand dollars. But it had this 156 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: gigantic pool because in Orlando so many people have pool 157 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 2: even with you know, inexpensive houses, and we just thought 158 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 2: we won the lottery. 159 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: You know. 160 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 2: It was just insane. But we got there, and it 161 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 2: was really hard the first year. I just never liked 162 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: to be I mean, I think being new is a 163 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 2: very important thing to do for growth. I think it 164 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 2: really galvanizes a lot of stuff inside you of who 165 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 2: you are and everything, and I'm glad in hindsight, but 166 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 2: I used to just wake up in the morning and 167 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 2: just cry, and you know, just because I had so 168 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 2: much familiarity and comfort with all the kids that I 169 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 2: went to school with. It's just I was always quiet 170 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 2: at first, you know, and then by my senior year, 171 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 2: I got really involved in school and the girls, you know, 172 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 2: would go because I remember when you'd come in, you know, 173 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 2: you came in your junior year and I'd say, oh, really, really, 174 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 2: because I came in my sophomore year and sat next 175 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 2: to you for an entire class and you were, you know, 176 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 2: a cold little ass wipe to me. 177 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 4: But you know that's right. Now we're friends. 178 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: And what was the difference for you in terms of 179 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: the people if you can, if you can character from 180 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,679 Speaker 1: Illinois to Florida, I mean Florida. 181 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: Well, the biggest, I mean, one thing that really helped 182 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: me was I was always I always sang. So I 183 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 2: went in immediately into a concert choir, and so that 184 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 2: was wonderful because then I had a social group pretty quickly. 185 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 2: But the one thing about Florida that was so different 186 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 2: that freaked me out was that, you know, I never 187 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 2: thought I was growing up in Illinois in necessarily I 188 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 2: mean a cold sort of atmosphere. It was emotionally warm. 189 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 2: I had great friends, you know, my family warm. But 190 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 2: when I got to Florida, everybody hugged constantly. 191 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: Really, I was the other way. 192 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 2: Everyone was so affectionate in such a crazy way that 193 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 2: I remember saying, it's I remember coming home and going 194 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 2: stop cupping my nipples tenor I don't know you in 195 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 2: the choir, no, but people would. I kept thinking it 196 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 2: was our director's birthday or something. I was like, what 197 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 2: the hell's going on in here? Everyone is hugging our teacher, 198 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 2: hugging each other. I realized it was just that was 199 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 2: just the way everyone did, you know. And then my girl, 200 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 2: my who eventually became my girlfriend of many years, was 201 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: my best friend in high school and we were very huggy, 202 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 2: and that all worked. 203 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 1: Out because I was the right person. 204 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 2: Not the teacher, not until after we graduated exactly. 205 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: Then then you went to the college down there. 206 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: I went to the college for two years down there, 207 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 2: and I studied what well. Their theater department was amazing, 208 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 2: their art department was incredible, and I was also an artist. 209 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 2: Seminole Community College but I mean the heads of those 210 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 2: departments and the music department were so incredible that today 211 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 2: they still are some of my favorite people that have 212 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 2: Tennessee got time because my art professor, Grady Kimsey, who 213 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 2: I'm a really good friend with still he had gone 214 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 2: to ut years and years ago, just kept saying, you 215 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 2: got to go check out you tea. And then my 216 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 2: girlfriend was going to North Carolina, so it kind of 217 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 2: you know, I'd go up and visit, and I'd never 218 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: been up in those mountains, and I just fell in 219 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: love with those there because I'm such a nature freaking Yeah, 220 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 2: I went crazy for it. 221 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: And when you left there, what happened? 222 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 2: And then I finished college and I came home and 223 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 2: I worked at the theme parks. 224 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: What's that like with how do you get the job 225 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: at Disney? Like, who's is there somebody who's like a 226 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: casting person? 227 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, there's talent people. 228 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 2: And you know, I had worked with an improv group 229 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 2: called Ssach Theater in Orlando. They at the time contracted 230 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 2: out to Disney. So they did all the like in 231 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 2: Epcot in Italy, the Canadia, dell Art. You know, they 232 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: would do all the comedy. That's kind of the roaming, 233 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 2: atmospheric comedy. And then they built Pleasure Island, which was 234 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 2: the nighttime Disney. 235 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 4: You know, all the night clubs Pleasure Island, Pleasure Island, 236 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 4: Welcome Come, Mickey has No PANSA. 237 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 2: An entire island they built that had all these clubs. 238 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 2: They had like a big discotheque. They had a country 239 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 2: Western sort of music club. It was just kind of 240 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: like a strip of nighttime establishments, but all in Disney. 241 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 4: But it was late night and the. 242 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: Kind of a downtown feel, like a cluster like South Streets. 243 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 2: And they would have like New Year's Eve every night, 244 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 2: so they'd have dancers come out and they'd dance. And 245 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: it was really a fabulous place to work as a 246 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 2: young actor because it felt cool and I could and 247 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 2: I did a lot of improvisation. But then we also 248 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 2: did like radio shows and singing. We could be kind 249 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 2: of dirty. I mean, it wasn't filthy. I didn't go 250 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 2: full tilt my typical filth that you know of well, I. 251 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,119 Speaker 4: Didn't pell out. 252 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 2: But you would interact with the guests, so there you know, 253 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 2: you'd be sitting there with some old British dude who's 254 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,719 Speaker 2: getting drunk and just get into a conversation, and I 255 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 2: played Pamelia Perkins, the president of the Adventures Club, and 256 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 2: it was kind of a Teddy Roosevelt era sort of place. 257 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 2: And I had this big bufont and I could just 258 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 2: be as body as hell. I mean I would get 259 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 2: on guy's laps and you know, have my legs up 260 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 2: in the air because I was like a matron sort 261 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 2: of character. And we used to have such a blast. 262 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 2: But then also during that time I went down Penis 263 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 2: Avenue for about two years, I was dating men for 264 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 2: a little while. I would hook up with people, I 265 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 2: mean just meeting like different people. I'd meet, well, just guests, 266 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: and you know, you'd meet some super super charismatic, handsome person. 267 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 2: You'd be sitting there laughing and you'd be in costume, 268 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 2: and then they'd be like, what are you guys doing after. 269 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: You do the characters? What do these characters do next? 270 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: And there was a restaurant and there were bars down 271 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 2: the street that they would let us after work go to. 272 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 2: So you just take change all your clothes and you know, 273 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: blow dry the shit out of your hair and go. 274 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 2: Now I'm twenty five again. And I'd walk down there 275 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 2: and and it was New Year's eve every day it 276 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 2: was New Year's but you vomited every day and lost 277 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 2: your virginity every day. 278 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 4: That's what was the Pamelion Pamelia Perkins. 279 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: Pamelia, Pamelia Perkins. Of course he is banging the guests too. 280 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 2: At a time, I mean for an actor. At that time, 281 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 2: I was making really good money and had full insurance everything, 282 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 2: had a car, rented a little house. 283 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 4: You know. 284 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: It was kind of fun. 285 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 4: It was. 286 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 2: It was a beautiful little It was a beautiful life. 287 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 2: And then I got stir crazy with it. And that 288 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 2: was just about when happened. 289 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: But how does that happen? How do they find you? 290 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 3: It was? 291 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 2: It was a beautifully random, amazing thing. 292 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 5: We'll be back in a minute. 293 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 2: I had worked with Sex Theater. They had a theater downtown. 294 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 2: They would call me every so often and I'd go 295 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 2: do a set with them where I do a character 296 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 2: that I had written. And so they said, you know, 297 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 2: we're going to do this sketch comedy pilot called Chucklehead. 298 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 2: And they said will you be in it and do 299 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 2: those characters? And they said sure. I mean I was 300 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 2: doing like I got beat up in America's most wanted 301 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 2: you know, all the local, all the things that were 302 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 2: shooting in Orlando, I would do, you know, And I 303 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 2: did this lottery character for years in about three states 304 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 2: that was played the Worlitz Org and you know sexy 305 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 2: characters Alec, you know, but all from the Matron Handbook. 306 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 2: I was born at fifty Alec. But they called me. 307 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: My agent called me one day and she said, are 308 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 2: you sitting down? 309 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 4: I said yes. 310 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 2: She said, Saturday Night Live saw that pilot Lauren wants 311 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 2: to meet you. And I'm like, okay, for what? And 312 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 2: she goes, now, it is not an audition, but he 313 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 2: wants to fly you up and talk to you. And 314 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 2: I'm like, well, what is it? 315 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 4: An orgy? Am I being summoned for. 316 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 3: What? 317 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 2: In the f And I said okay? And so I 318 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 2: flew up there, you know, talk about defecating. I mean, 319 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 2: it was like Emodium City the entire two days of 320 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 2: getting there. He was two hours, you know, or three 321 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 2: hours late for the meeting, but he was super nice. 322 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 2: And I sat with Marci Klein and Ayala in the 323 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 2: talent room and I was so nervous that they ordered 324 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 2: food and they said, we're ordering zen Palette, you know, vegetarian. 325 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 4: We're ordering zen palette. Do you want anything? 326 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 2: And I said, just a just like a coup of 327 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 2: white rice would make good, just like rice. And I 328 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 2: just got a dry cup of white rice and set 329 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 2: and ate it. I went in and he said, we 330 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 2: have just cleaned house. It was ninety five. It was 331 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 2: when Will Ferrell and everybody came. He said, we've cleaned house. 332 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 2: We're starting over. You know, it's gonna rise again. We're hoping, 333 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 2: and we're gonna try to infuse it with new talent, 334 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 2: and we would like to hire you to be a writer. 335 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 2: When I was like, oh, well, I've never done that. 336 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 2: I you know, I don't even I mean, I didn't 337 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 2: even use a computer at that point. And I said 338 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 2: I can't, you know. And if you tell them you can't, 339 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 2: then they will. You will keep saying well, and he said, 340 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 2: well we'll show you. 341 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: You know, we have people. 342 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 4: But it was so quick. 343 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 2: That it made me worry that there was something wrong, 344 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 2: like there was a scam or something like this was 345 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 2: all some kind of frickin' joke, because I was like, 346 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 2: this can't be. 347 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: And so soon after that, were you moving to New York? 348 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 2: I had five days to move, packed up, my whole 349 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 2: life gave my animals to my mom temporarily. 350 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: Farewell to Pleasure is up. 351 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 2: To New York City, and you know, just was just 352 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 2: ungodly miserable, and I mean with fear. But Mike Shoemaker 353 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 2: called me right before I left because I was starting 354 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 2: to freak out to the point of going, I'm going 355 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: to my dream place. I mean, I was obsessed with us. 356 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 4: Now. 357 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 2: When I was little, I used to audio tape it. 358 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 2: I used to perform Rosanna and Rosanna Dana for my 359 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 2: high school in the auditorium, and I thought, I'm just 360 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 2: going to be sitting around with like, you know, ten 361 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 2: Harvard dudes looking at me, going, who the fuck is 362 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 2: who hired Kathy Bates Light and you know, and why 363 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 2: is she? And I adore Kathy Baits, by the way, 364 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 2: but they were just you know, I thought they I 365 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 2: would be so not of their world, of these writerly. 366 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 4: Sort of people. 367 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 2: And I didn't realize how many writers there are performers. 368 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 2: And so Shoemaker called me, and I still thank him 369 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 2: for this because he really is the reason that I 370 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 2: ended up getting. 371 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 4: The balls to get there. 372 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 2: But he called and he said, some people want to 373 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 2: say hi, And it was you know, Cindy can Up 374 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 2: and Era and Lori Nesso and all these people that 375 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: were new that were terrified, and they all got on 376 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 2: the phone going, we can't wait to meet you. And 377 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 2: I hung up the phone and I just burst into tears. 378 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 2: I said, it's all going to be okay. No matter what, 379 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 2: it's going to be okay. It's just a group of people. 380 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 2: It's almost like of all the years of doing plays. 381 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 2: It's like it's a new cast. You're seventeen, You're getting 382 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 2: in a cast seventeen years. I've been there yet seventeen, 383 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 2: and I was it changed? 384 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 4: Well. 385 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 2: I think in general, comedy has gotten a little, you know, 386 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 2: it's gone through its ebbs and flows in terms of 387 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 2: things being more character driven or or you know, more conceptual. 388 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 2: I mean, I think that show always has a great 389 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 2: amount of both. And I always loved the fact that 390 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 2: that show had something for everybody. You know, I'd sit 391 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 2: with a group of people that I'd love certain things 392 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 2: and they'd love certain things, and so I, yeah, I 393 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 2: love I love the balance, you know, I love the 394 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 2: balance of it. But one of the biggest things that's 395 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 2: changed in general to me is the Internet. Because when 396 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 2: I was growing up and you were an actor, you 397 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 2: had to create a body of work by really doing 398 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 2: it and getting hired, and then they would give you 399 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 2: access to tape of it. You know, you couldn't just 400 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 2: go on machines and videotape yourself and make a beautifully edited, 401 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 2: great comedy piece and put that on the internet. I mean, 402 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 2: you just can't do it. I mean my reel I 403 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 2: just remember, you know, I do a tiny role in 404 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 2: something and just love that. I was adding that to 405 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 2: my reel, and you'd have to go to like a 406 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 2: video place and pay the guy to sit there and 407 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 2: do it on the gigantic machine. 408 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: The Internet has changed things profound Yeah, it. 409 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 2: Just and I think in a bad way. It gave 410 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 2: people a sense of entitlement of there isn't as much 411 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 2: awe of all of it because they do it themselves. 412 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 2: So it's like, oh, yeah, I have you know this 413 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 2: and I've done my show. You know, they create it themselves, 414 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 2: which is very empowering and wonderful. And it's also getting 415 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 2: a lot more comedy out there of hilarious people that 416 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 2: would never usually walk into a room nervous and an audition, 417 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 2: right right, right. 418 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: So that seems to me to have been the condition 419 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: for me, which is I'd come to SNL and the 420 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 1: signals that I picked up in nineteen ninety Jan Hooks 421 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: and all that crowd back then was you know, my 422 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: career wasn't that iconic to send up me and my 423 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: career And so it's not like I'm Stallone or Schwartzenegro 424 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: or something like that where we do that. So you 425 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:27,719 Speaker 1: come in and right away you pick up I've got 426 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 1: to become like everybody else and become a member of 427 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 1: the company, right right. And as soon as I got that, 428 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: as soon as I kind of picked up that vibe 429 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: from them, I was, you know, asked to come back 430 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: and come back and come back. And what it does 431 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 1: is for me as a performer, it's killed everything else 432 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: that's supposed to be funny. And I wonder what that's 433 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: like for you where you're in the world where you 434 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: work with the funniest people. No matter what people say 435 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: about SNL, you know, it's not always going to work, 436 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: but when it works, it's I think it's the best. 437 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: What's it been like for you? 438 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 2: Well, you get so you get so insultly, you know, 439 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 2: isolated there in great ways and weird because it's there's 440 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 2: nothing like it. You cannot compare that experience with anything, 441 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 2: but it really is so intense. And you you know, 442 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 2: I started writing movies two years ago and working into that, 443 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 2: I realized how stretched out the time is, to the 444 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 2: point where, you know, I mean, we'll go between dress 445 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 2: and air and Lauren will say, I don't like the 446 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 2: whole top of that, like, add, you know, a couple 447 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 2: new jokes. So you're coming up with new jokes at 448 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 2: eleven fifteen, and so let me let me just. 449 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 1: Put a finer point on that for our radio audience, 450 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: our podcast audience, because that SNL does a full dress 451 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: rehearsal at eight o'clock on Saturday night with an audience 452 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: with a lengthier show. And let's say normally they have 453 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 1: seven sketches on the air show, they do like eleven 454 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: sketches at eight, and they're going to pick what worked 455 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: best and then they're going to be right. So when 456 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: that finishes at ten, maybe ten fifteen, maybe ten thirty, who. 457 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 4: Knows, it's a long show. 458 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: It's a long show. And then you've got an hour 459 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: where you're sitting in a room. And in that hour 460 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: between shows, that's when Lauren and the Pretty and the 461 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: riders edit that show and choose what they're going to 462 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: do and ask for rewrites. 463 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 2: And they're getting rid of that audience. They're bringing in 464 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: a new one. The band is warming up the new audience, 465 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 2: and you'll walk through and have a task to change something, 466 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 2: and you're walking by these people that are walking in 467 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 2: to their seats looking like I'm so excited I'm here, 468 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 2: and you're like, I don't know what we're going to 469 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 2: have for you, but we're going to do it right now. 470 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:20,719 Speaker 4: You know. 471 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 2: I did a Bobby and Marty one time with Will 472 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 2: and Anna, and they found out that we were losing 473 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 2: time quickly, and so they said, you have to take 474 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 2: like two minutes out of this. I mean it just 475 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 2: and it was between the commercial break. So I went 476 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 2: downstairs and I was kneeling down with the cue card people. 477 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 2: They were just putting tape over sections and we're like. 478 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 4: Okay, does that make sense? Does it does? And go with. 479 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: The drown our children? 480 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 2: And I'm pretty sure that if like doctor Oz did 481 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 2: my actual age. You know how they test you and 482 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 2: you're actually I'm probably one hundred and eighty now because 483 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 2: the stress of that. It's just such adrenaline and you know, 484 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 2: but I mean the beautiful thing about SNL is hosts 485 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 2: will come in and and you know, never you because 486 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 2: you were always very approachable. Whenever anyone asked me about hosts, 487 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 2: I always tell them that, you know, you are always 488 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 2: one of my favorite hosts. I'm not blowing air up 489 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 2: your culo. 490 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,239 Speaker 4: I get at I'm going to look that way. What 491 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 4: is kulo? 492 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: And as yeah, well yeah, if you're blowing smoke up. 493 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 4: And could you have men do have other holes. 494 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 2: But like you know, hosts will come in with their 495 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 2: people and and they're very nice and very scared, but 496 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 2: they they have a little bit of that sometimes because 497 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 2: they're fearful and they have people protecting them. And by 498 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 2: the end of the week, they're just always at that 499 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: after party. You know, they're sitting with everybody and laying 500 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 2: across everybody because it feels like theater. It feels like 501 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 2: I'm in theater camp. And this is what I miss doing. 502 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: More from Paul la Pel In a moment, this is 503 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: Alec Baldwin and you're listening to here's the thing. Paul 504 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 1: la Pell has been writing sketches at SNL for seventeen years. 505 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: But like any of us. Sometimes she just gets tired 506 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 1: of comedy. 507 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 4: Oh my god, Yeah, you don't want. 508 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 1: To watch My Sorrow and the Pity. 509 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 2: No, my gal of fourteen years. She watches a lot 510 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 2: of TV, and she watches shows that I wouldn't generally watch, 511 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 2: like Castle or you know, like hawife I BO, or 512 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 2: like murdersh and I mean, you know, murder shows, CSI 513 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 2: and CIS. 514 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 4: She'll watch all She'll tape. 515 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 2: She'll tape all these shows in like elementary, all these 516 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 2: new shows, and I'll get totally hooked on things and 517 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 2: realize that I just love I always loved having drama 518 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 2: and comedy together. I mean, that's the fun thing about 519 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 2: writing movies now is you can have a moment that's 520 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 2: just a heart wrenching moment in a comedy that's that's real. 521 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 2: You know, that feels more three dimensional, because after seventeen 522 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 2: years of sketches, you do get a little stir crazy 523 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 2: with feeling like you're just writing something on the surface. 524 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 2: I mean, it's great to make people laugh, but when 525 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 2: I go home, I love to watch dramas or some 526 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 2: reality things. 527 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 4: I love to just not think about comedy. 528 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I do the show and I go 529 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: out there and it's really and I'll say, I'm never 530 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: doing this. Yeah, this is ridiculous. I can't be bothered 531 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 1: with this toasty Thisiclou too young. These people are all young, 532 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: and they're all crazy and they're all pure Isle and 533 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: all they talk about is foughts and Brazias and so forth. 534 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: And then it's I'm gonna go do as you like 535 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: it in the park. Then of course, you know, Lauren 536 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: calls me. I'm like, no, okay, yeah, well he'll call 537 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: me like I get thrown off the plane on American 538 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,959 Speaker 1: Airlines for playing words with friends. The phone rings like 539 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: three four days there, it's Lauren and he literally literally 540 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 1: he literally goes, so perhaps we should do something. And 541 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, oh my god, I can't believe 542 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: you people are insane. 543 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 4: This would be the week. This would be the week. 544 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 1: This would be the week, you know, which like that 545 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 1: thing where we have to do it now, but you 546 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: can't say no to them. You feel like your family. 547 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 2: You just forget how immediate it is, you know. Years 548 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,199 Speaker 2: ago I did a sketch with with a little young, 549 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 2: little sweet faced justin Timberlake when he was in sync. 550 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 2: I used to write a sketch called six Degrees Celsius 551 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 2: and it was like a boy group and Will Ferrell 552 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 2: was their manager and he had to stay three hundred 553 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 2: feet away from them because clearly he had done some 554 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 2: inappropriate things. He had tinted glasses. 555 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 4: Of course, you know. 556 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 2: It was Jimmy Fallon and Chris Catan and Horatio and 557 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 2: they were and they were Chris Parnell and they were 558 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 2: a boy group. And then we'd have the host in 559 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 2: it well that week and sinc was there. We asked 560 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 2: in Sync to be another boy group in this competition 561 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 2: on the show, playing a fake boy group, and so 562 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 2: I wrote a song called hold the Pick, and they 563 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 2: were like McDonald's employees, and so En Sing came out 564 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 2: with like McDonald's outfits on and saying hold the pit girl, 565 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 2: and they're so they were so crazy talented, like they 566 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 2: got there and looked at it for ten minutes and 567 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 2: had full harmonies and full choreography. I mean they threw 568 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 2: that shit together. I was just amazed they came on. 569 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 2: And then you remember what was the MTV thing every 570 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 2: Sunday like the Big I can't think of the name 571 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 2: of it, but the show the like show that they'd 572 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 2: show all the videos and everything at that time. Do 573 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 2: you remember what that was? Okay, well, anyway, it was. 574 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 2: It was a very I do know the big video show, 575 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 2: you know, the big video show that the kids used 576 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 2: to dance to. But the next morning, I'm in my 577 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 2: little apartment and you know, I probably ordered four entrees 578 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 2: from some to go things to eat my pain, because 579 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 2: you always did. On Sunday and I turned on the 580 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 2: TV and Justin Timberlake was on TV on the show 581 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 2: at noon in Times Square, and there were just hundreds 582 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 2: of girls down there waving to him, and they had 583 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 2: a banner with the words to the song hold the 584 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,719 Speaker 2: Pickle on the banner that they had painted. And I 585 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 2: was looking at it, going that cannot be because we 586 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 2: just did this, like I just woke up and we 587 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 2: just and then I just remembered like I used to 588 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 2: get obsessed. You know, I didn't have the Internet, I 589 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 2: didn't have videos, but back at the day, I mean, 590 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 2: my god, if I. 591 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 4: Would have grown up in the Internet era, I would have. 592 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 2: Been the queen of like, you know, just having my 593 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 2: own fan site. Yeah, because I just loved it and 594 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 2: I wanted and we were having a funny conversation the 595 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 2: other day. 596 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 4: In my journals. When I was young, I. 597 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 2: Would talk about Rocky because I was obsessed with Rocky 598 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 2: Sylvester Stallone and the very first Rocky movie. 599 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 4: And I would talk about, like, in. 600 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 2: Two weeks people Magazine's going to have an article about him, 601 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 2: and I would wait until we got that magazine and 602 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 2: then I would take it home and I'd cut it 603 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 2: out and put it in a script. You know, you 604 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 2: had to wait to get information or a photo of someone, 605 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 2: or if you really loved to singer, you had to 606 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 2: wait for their album to come up. And now you 607 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 2: just you just observe. 608 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 1: Years older than you are. Remember when I was a kid, 609 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: there was no cable, there was no DVD. The trailers 610 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: for movies and the build up, the ramp up of 611 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: a campaign to advertise the film was or at least 612 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: it seemed so far reaching back then. I'll never forget. 613 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: We went to The Godfather and I was underage and 614 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: we snuck in. I forget how now we stood in 615 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: line and it was like three screenings, you know, like 616 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: one o'clock, four o'clock, seven o'clock, and you go to 617 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: the top of the line and didn't get in. So 618 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: you waited another three hours, you know, reading Mad magazine 619 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: or some crap we read back then. 620 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 2: And I always say, now people wait to stream a 621 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: movie and it's like, you know, four minutes to stream 622 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 2: it in their tip and their foot and going come on, yeah. 623 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: You know exactly. And the other thing is that they'll 624 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: watch twenty minutes of it. Then they'll pause and they'll 625 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: go talk on the phone and they'll go play in it. Yeah, 626 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: now you are? You left to do a television show? 627 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 4: I left. 628 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 2: I left about six years ago to do I wrote 629 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 2: au pilot called Thick and Thin that was about two 630 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 2: fat sisters that grew up fat and one gets really 631 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 2: hot and thin and beautiful. 632 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 4: NBC. Yeah, we shot the pilot. 633 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 2: It got picked up for like thirteen, but it was 634 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 2: a bad year for multi camera sitcoms. It was kind 635 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 2: of when they were getting phased out. And it was 636 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 2: also about a subject that was a little weird still 637 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 2: back in that era of you know, there wasn't a 638 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 2: whole bunch of stuff with weight stuff. And I really 639 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 2: wanted like real people that look fat, you know, that 640 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 2: look fat because I had struggled with my weight all 641 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 2: my life and lost huge amounts of Wait a couple 642 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 2: times in my life. Sharon Glass and Martin Bull played 643 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 2: the parents, and they played my parents, so it was 644 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 2: their names. They did all my dad's stick. I mean, 645 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 2: it was really a special thing. My parents came to 646 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 2: the pilot, and you know, it was it was very 647 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 2: emotional and wonderful and fun. But the process of developing 648 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 2: a network show like that is so hard, and I really, 649 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 2: in hindsight learned so you know, learn so many things 650 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 2: after the fact. 651 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: You know, it's one thing you learned that you can say, 652 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: what'd you learn? 653 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 2: Well, the biggest thing I learned was I'm a people 654 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 2: pleaser and I always like to get to know people 655 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 2: and see the good sides of them, and I wanted 656 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 2: to have a lot of positive energy with them because 657 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 2: I had known so many people that develop stuff that 658 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 2: were like welcome to hell. You know, everyone just gets 659 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 2: so negative about it. And I thought, you know what, 660 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 2: I'm going to go into this. I'm so lucky to 661 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 2: be doing this. I'm so thrilled. But I befriended everyone 662 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 2: so intensely, you know, especially like network people and everything. 663 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 2: I befriended everyone, so then there was this sort of 664 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 2: discomfort at telling them things they didn't want to hear, 665 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 2: or me pushing back in bigger ways. And because I 666 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 2: had already established that we're all just friends and we're 667 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 2: all having fun and we're laughing, then they would suggest 668 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 2: things that were just show ruining and I would just 669 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 2: be like, okay, well, you know, and I just at 670 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 2: the time didn't really have my voice as a creative 671 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 2: person to lead something like that, you know, so I 672 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 2: regret that, and I regret not pushing more. I mean, 673 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 2: casting was, you know, a little brutal, just because of 674 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 2: the weight thing is they would they would bring people 675 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 2: in that were I wanted real people that were you know, 676 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 2: I wanted the other sister to be to be a 677 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 2: real heavy person. And when they'd audition heavy people sometimes 678 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 2: I'd watch their faces when they're auditioning them, and they're 679 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 2: kind of like looking at their bodies, and I'm going, 680 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,239 Speaker 2: this is not good. They don't get it that like 681 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 2: the you know, Roseanne was freaking huge hit show. It's like, 682 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 2: come on, I don't even remember who said this to me, 683 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 2: but one of the network people pulled me aside during 684 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 2: one of the castings and she said, did you audition 685 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 2: this other girl for that part? For the heavy sister 686 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 2: and I said no. I auditioned her for the thin sister, 687 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 2: and she said, you couldn't pad her, could you. And 688 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 2: I just remember walking away going, this is so dead 689 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 2: in the water. 690 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: You know, now movies, You're doing a movie now? 691 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I did. 692 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 2: I worked a little bit on Bridesmaids. I just came 693 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 2: a couple of different times and just you know, pitched 694 00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 2: jokes on the set, did that kind of thing. Had 695 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 2: never done anything movie wise ever, And I really really 696 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 2: had fun doing it. I really enjoyed it. And then 697 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 2: I jud started hiring me to do some rewrites on 698 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 2: different movies and punch ups and stuff, and I started 699 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 2: to see, you know, because I had tried to get 700 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 2: into it before in other eras of my life. But 701 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 2: at the same time, I had had an idea for 702 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 2: a while about my journal, my childhood journal, of doing 703 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 2: something with it. I wanted to do a little play 704 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 2: based on it. I'd wanted to do something with it, 705 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 2: and Tina had, you know, I'd read it to her 706 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 2: many times in s and L I'd read it to 707 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,959 Speaker 2: people before I came up with an idea for a 708 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 2: movie to do to pitch, and I pitched it to 709 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 2: Universal and they bought it with Tina attached to it 710 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 2: as a producer and potentially to be in it, And 711 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 2: so I wrote that that's in the work. So we're 712 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 2: waiting to find out all the finals on you know, 713 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 2: on that, what's happening with that. It's it's it's been 714 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 2: you know, gone through its rewrites and all that. So 715 00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 2: I'm excited about that about two sisters and Judd and 716 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 2: I just wrote a movie, and then last summer I 717 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 2: worked on my first full movie experience with This is forty. 718 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 2: I was the executive producer on that. 719 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: This sounds horrible, but do you ever wonder what it 720 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: would be like if you and your wife were separated 721 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: by something bigger death like her death? I have given 722 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: it a fair amount of thought, not in any painful way, 723 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: but is like a gentle floating off. It's got to 724 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: be peaceful. 725 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,719 Speaker 3: I mean, this is the mother of your children. 726 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: And then the new wife would be great. 727 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 5: God, I can't wait to meet my second wife. 728 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: I hope she likes me better than this one. 729 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 2: I've finally kind of gotten my foothold in the movie 730 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 2: thing now and it's really fun. 731 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 4: I really love it. 732 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 2: I mean, it's a lot of it's a lot of 733 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 2: waiting around for news on things. It's a lot of 734 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 2: you know, I can't plan anything because you don't know 735 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 2: what your next year is going to be a different 736 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 2: find out. But so beautiful to be able to work 737 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 2: at home with my animals and D and just like 738 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 2: to be. 739 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: Our home buddy, aren't you Well you always come bacted 740 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: the same thing when I've spoken to you with Yeah, 741 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: I was despondent when you left because you know it 742 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: was you were such a great You're such a great rider. 743 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: You're one of my favorite writers of all times. You're 744 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: so funny. No but everything mean that and you And 745 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: then when you left and you said the same that, 746 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: You're like, Oh, just want to go home to D 747 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: and my animals, my animal animal. 748 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 4: I want to go live the lesbian life. I want 749 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,839 Speaker 4: to be on a lesbian far. I want to wear 750 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 4: my dance go clogs. 751 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 2: I want to get a mag light and go under 752 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 2: a dumpster and get some feral cats. 753 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 4: Out of there. 754 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 2: I have a horse up there, I have, you know, 755 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 2: just it's so beautiful and inexpensive up there in the 756 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 2: Hudson Valley. It's like the amazing place, but also just 757 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 2: I'm realizing too, just the finite amount of time. You know, 758 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 2: I've spent more time since I've been doing the movie 759 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 2: stuff the last two years, I've spent more time with 760 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 2: my family. I've been down in Florida a lot to 761 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 2: visit them. It's just feeling so much better for me. 762 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 2: And also, I love like Lauren whenever I'm there. I 763 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 2: did the Louis ck Show, and I'm doing this next 764 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 2: to here, and and you know, Lauren will say to 765 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 2: it's still fun, right, it's fun. You had fun, and 766 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 2: I go, oh my god, it's amazing. But if I 767 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 2: did it all the time now, I would be like 768 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 2: a you know, a bitter hag, because I just feel 769 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 2: like I wasn't having time or energy to do other things. 770 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 2: And also everyone is very young. I mean my nieces 771 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:21,760 Speaker 2: and nephews I saw delivered out of my sister's vagine 772 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,720 Speaker 2: and they are in their mid. 773 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 4: Twenties and one's a physician's assistant. 774 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 2: And I mean, I've named myself at SNL Nanny SNL 775 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 2: because I'll sit at the reway table, like, what is 776 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 2: the name of that where's that detective on television? 777 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, I call myself Grandpa Oh my god, I 778 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: got you know, Grandpa, They'll knock on the door and 779 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: sleeper ready. I'm like, Grandpa will be right there. I'll 780 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: be right there. God jamm it. 781 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 2: But if you have a good night there, you feel 782 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 2: like you're twenty again. I mean, you know, if you 783 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 2: have a night where you feel like I mean, last 784 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 2: week I had a really fun scotch I wrote with 785 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 2: Kate McKinnon for her and Louis c. K and it 786 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 2: was funny and dirty and where they were at last 787 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 2: call at a bar and they're just trying to find 788 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 2: common ground because they know they're the only two people left. 789 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 4: So they're like, wait, you're from Arizona. Oh my god, 790 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,439 Speaker 4: I'm from northern California. That's crazy. And they were. 791 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,879 Speaker 2: They made out in the most disgusting, face eating way 792 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 2: you could ever imagine. And I just went home on 793 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 2: that old school SNL high, just a whole high, you know, 794 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 2: like the whole weekend, just bouncing off the walls. And 795 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 2: then you start going, maybe I could do this all 796 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 2: the time. 797 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 4: I got no, I'm gonna do it. 798 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: I would leave there after a good show, I leave 799 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:29,959 Speaker 1: there's I'm gonna be a cast edition. 800 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 2: I'll do even odd shows like the gas Ration. 801 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: Now now Twitter, You're on Twitter. On on Twitter? You 802 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: kill me on Twitter? 803 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 4: Thank you. 804 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: I talk about like I was laying on a bed 805 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 1: and I was having a great time and I was 806 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: eating sacks and I was really cozy and everything was 807 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: just I felt so great, and then security guard came 808 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 1: up me. You know, tgget is closed. 809 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 2: Man. 810 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the Tony Benet routine. 811 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 2: People always really respond to my target tweets. 812 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: Twitter is just another form for you. 813 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 2: Twitter is really I got very addicted to it just 814 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 2: because it's so simple and it's like a video game 815 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 2: for comedy writers to just do a one liner about something. 816 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 2: And I started doing these hey young girl tweets and 817 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 2: I might do a little book of them maybe and 818 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 2: illustrate it. You know, my nieces, I just used to 819 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,359 Speaker 2: drive them insane when they were. 820 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 4: Growing up because I was so. 821 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 1: Girls. 822 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,720 Speaker 2: I remember, Hey young girls, keep your boobs in your shirt, 823 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 2: your button, your pants, your eyes on, your dreams, your 824 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 2: head in the cloud. 825 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: You know that I can also say the thing about 826 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 1: you if the guy does this. 827 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, the hey young girl stuff just came out of 828 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 2: my nieces because I would bring them to Esnel and 829 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,839 Speaker 2: they were just these dropped out gorgeous girls. And they 830 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 2: would have people I'm not talking about people just checking 831 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 2: them out, but like at the if I brought them 832 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 2: backstage or whatever, there'd be some some dude that would 833 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 2: just end up coming up and saying, you know, really 834 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 2: aggressive checking them out. And so they still imitate me 835 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,320 Speaker 2: how I would grab them with my meaty, polish firm 836 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 2: wife arm and she's fourteen. 837 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 4: You want to talk about it. 838 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,839 Speaker 2: I mean I would just become this raving crazy woman 839 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 2: looking at them, like, you know, and so I always 840 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 2: i'd always be like, are you're sexually active? I would 841 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 2: always want to know all their details and everything. 842 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: Like a character out of our rock huts and movie. 843 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, the chaperone, Yeah, I'm the chaperone. 844 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,800 Speaker 2: That's you're all sturrying my son away from the Hucci. 845 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 4: You're a Lucie dancers. 846 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 1: You know, you're a woman, and you're a woman in comedy. 847 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:25,359 Speaker 1: And comedy has changed a lot over the last forty years, 848 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 1: but I you know, I feel like it's changed a 849 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: lot over the last fifteen years. It's even more. You've 850 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 1: got people who are much more you know, they're just 851 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 1: like the guys I mean Sarah silvermen and people who 852 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 1: are much more in living color, if you will. I 853 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 1: wanted to ask you, you know, your assessment of that, 854 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,800 Speaker 1: how that's changed for women over your career, and also 855 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 1: do you think that there's like certain glass ceilings still, 856 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 1: like on late night comedy shows, like do you think 857 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 1: they'll ever replace Letterman? Or like can a woman do 858 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: that job? Because you have women hosting daytime shows, right 859 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 1: and any one's on during the day, but the big 860 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: three in the networks they don't have a woman doing 861 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 1: that show. Do you think that'll ever change? 862 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 4: I don't know. 863 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,879 Speaker 2: I mean it's you know, I remember that era where 864 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 2: a couple of them were doing it, Joan Rivers and 865 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 2: different people were trying it, and they were you know, 866 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 2: they were all stand ups, but they had been around for. 867 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 4: A long time, but not lately. 868 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 2: So I feel like now a lot of those young 869 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 2: funny girls are either getting their own show, you know, 870 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 2: doing a show, a television show, but not a talk show, 871 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 2: you know. I mean Jimmy, he's such a fan of 872 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 2: everyone and so enthusiastic and joyful about music and everything 873 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 2: that that was like a perfect fit for him and 874 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 2: hilarious so he worked out so great for that. But 875 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,720 Speaker 2: I think with women it's also sometimes hard. At SNL, 876 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 2: like with auditions now, where you go, well, you see 877 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,879 Speaker 2: people and you go, where are a lot of the 878 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 2: super funny you know, super funny women and you know 879 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,839 Speaker 2: they're around, you know they exist, but a lot of 880 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,720 Speaker 2: them do. They are young, and they they're aggressively getting 881 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,879 Speaker 2: their own shows and stuff like that. The second year 882 00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,959 Speaker 2: I was at SNL, second or third, I remember having 883 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 2: an agent say to me, yeah, we got to get you, uh, 884 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 2: you know, we got to get a game plan for 885 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 2: you and get you know, so you can get get 886 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 2: out of here and and get a get a show going. 887 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 1: And all that. 888 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,839 Speaker 4: And I remember thinking, what are they talking about? 889 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 2: I'm like, what are you talking about? You know, this 890 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 2: is like the dream job. So but I think I 891 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 2: think for women it's just like I've always said about 892 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 2: us and L, it's like the funny rises to the 893 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 2: top with it. And if somebody's super funny and has 894 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 2: abandon and enjoy and they're not trying, you know, I 895 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 2: don't like ever with a comedy person them acting like 896 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 2: someone else or acting dirty just to be funny. I'm 897 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 2: the filthiest person on earth. But if it's not funny dirty, 898 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 2: if I'm not being funny dirty, you know, then forget it, 899 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,360 Speaker 2: because there's got to be some class to my to 900 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 2: my vulvage. 901 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 4: If a vul of a joke does not have a 902 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 4: class to it, then forget it. 903 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,360 Speaker 2: But you know, for a while, there are some auditions 904 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 2: I would watch where girls would come out and just 905 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,360 Speaker 2: try to just sex it up and be funny and dirty, 906 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 2: you know, and it's like, that's not fun. 907 00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 1: And you feel like not all of them, certainly, but 908 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,240 Speaker 1: enough of them. They go out in front of a camera, 909 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 1: a lot of them in the comedy world, and they 910 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: think feel like, well, I don't want to go too 911 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 1: far over this long because I don't want to lose 912 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 1: this other things. I really would like to kiss Leo 913 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 1: in a movie, right, I want to be as. 914 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 5: Much I think. 915 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 2: You don't want to see anyone thinking too hard while 916 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 2: they're you know, the greatest auditions at SNL were people 917 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 2: that came in purely as themselves, came in, did a 918 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 2: bunch of crazy ass characters, and you just went, this 919 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:22,280 Speaker 2: is a force of nature? 920 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 4: What is this? What is this human? 921 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 2: Like? They were making me laugh so hard and I 922 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 2: don't even know where they're getting it from. 923 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,399 Speaker 1: Women have the condition though, where it's like they sit 924 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: there and they you know, I mean I've seen women 925 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,879 Speaker 1: who they would make fun of actresses, I mean about comedy. Yeah, 926 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 1: they would just tear apart. They would lacerate actresses who 927 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,359 Speaker 1: they thought were, you know, leaning too much on the 928 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:47,839 Speaker 1: sex button. And then those comedy actresses became stars and 929 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,360 Speaker 1: they popped another button and they put the makeup on 930 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 1: their cleavage and they were like and they were just 931 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 1: like they were camera ready. I mean, they became the thing. 932 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 1: They made fun of it. Yeah, and you and you 933 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,840 Speaker 1: realize for women, that's a tough angle. 934 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 2: How many girls tended to grow up being the goofy 935 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,359 Speaker 2: looking you know, the goofy looking ones that. 936 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 4: Weren't getting the attention that way. 937 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 2: So when they become famous and have a lot of 938 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 2: money and people putting beautiful dresses on them, I think 939 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 2: they do go They do go. 940 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 4: That way, you know. 941 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I've got a lot of pretty sparkly pantsuits 942 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,839 Speaker 2: I wear to the Emmys now, and I really get 943 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 2: up my own ass on it. 944 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 1: Because Paula Pell will soon be stepping out in those 945 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 1: paths for the release of This Is forty, a film 946 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 1: she helped produce, set to open December twenty First, this 947 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,800 Speaker 1: is Alec Baldwin. Here's the Thing. Comes from w NYC 948 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 1: Radio