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Speaker 1: All right, hit that horn, very bless theirs. What is up? Everybody?

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the Fantasy Flex podcast from the Action Network

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Speaker 4: in Fantasy Labs. I'm your host, Chris Raybond, and today

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Speaker 4: we're going to discuss those all important fantasy football sweepers

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Speaker 4: for twenty twenty four. To help me break it down

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Speaker 4: as always, I'm joined by one of the most accurate

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Speaker 4: rankers in the business, odds maker Sean Turner.

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Speaker 3: Shan What's going on?

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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 2: Wrapped up another great pre season going twenty and thirteen.

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Speaker 2: So that was like my third or fourth straight year

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Speaker 2: betting on preseason heavily end finishing over sixty percent. Already,

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Speaker 2: feel like I'm in mid season four with thirty three

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Speaker 2: official plays under the belt.

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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is that is That's impressive.

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Speaker 4: That's that's how I got to say, I'm actually like,

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Speaker 4: any any quick, what was your number one like takeaway

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Speaker 4: from preseason, because I know you ended up watching like

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Speaker 4: pretty much all of those games because you're swell.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well my takeaways were Tyson beagent, seems like

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Speaker 2: and maybe Trey Lance needs some more work. Although that

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Speaker 2: was a very exciting game. But the five interceptions were

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Speaker 1: But it's always fun to get to see these guys.

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Speaker 2: Get another shot and it just looks like, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's not happening for Lance now, who knows that it will

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Speaker 2: That'll be an interesting one to see play out.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that that definitely helped his case because

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Speaker 3: It was it was absurd.

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Speaker 4: But we're gonna get into our top fantasy football sleepers

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Speaker 3: All right, so we've seen what we needed to in

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Speaker 4: You've made thirty three bets, I've watched every snap. I've

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Speaker 4: how do you define a sleeper because it's different for everybody.

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Speaker 3: When we talk about sleepers.

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Speaker 2: I would I would say it's just players that I

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Speaker 4: Great, great breakdown, And for me, everyone defines it different.

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Speaker 4: Last season, uh I had, we did not do well

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Speaker 4: Well in some of our other positions, but we did

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Speaker 3: That at zero for four. So let's do better this season.

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Speaker 2: And I think you actually summed up sleepers very well.

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Speaker 1: Upside in this offense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know this guy, Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 4: I really like that pick because, first of all, I

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Speaker 3: But we've talked about this. He got really unlucky.

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Speaker 4: He's been really unlucky with drops pretty much throughout his

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Speaker 4: I think your receiving corps set and Washington even is

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Speaker 4: and of course Evan Ingram, he made that great catch

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Speaker 3: I know you saw that. So I really like Crevel

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Speaker 2: took Bucky Irving in the fourth round because they want

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Speaker 2: to give White some more competition to potentially have more

438
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Speaker 2: of a split committee. So you know, Bucky Irving's a

439
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Speaker 2: guy based on where he's going that gets another eight

440
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Speaker 2: grade for me, and I think is an excellent stash,

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Speaker 2: probably in deeper leagues because he's going outside the top

442
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Speaker 2: firfty five.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I like Bucket as well.

444
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Speaker 4: I thought he looked really good in the preseason, and

445
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Speaker 4: I do expect him to kind of cut into wife's

446
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Speaker 4: workload at some point. They looked like they wanted to

447
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,640
Speaker 4: reduce White's workload down the stretch last year, and they're

448
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Speaker 4: doing it with Chase Edmonds, who's on IR by the way,

449
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Speaker 4: So that's all. You know, Bucky irvings that the number

450
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Speaker 4: two back for the entire season barring injury, because Edmunds

451
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Speaker 4: was placed on ir not designated to return, So he

452
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Speaker 4: seams damn over before it even gets started, so that

453
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Speaker 4: that's really good news for Irving as well Quorum. I'll

454
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Speaker 4: just go ahead and say he was on list as well.

455
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Speaker 4: So I really really liked that call there. You know,

456
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Speaker 4: I've been talking about him all off season. I think

457
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Speaker 4: he hit the nail on the head sea. They always

458
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 4: telegraphed his intentions, and the fact that Korum was resting

459
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Speaker 4: despite never playing as a rookie is just beautiful. And

460
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Speaker 4: that Rams offense top five in running back carries last

461
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Speaker 4: year in coream probably start out as more of a

462
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Speaker 4: you know, early down change of pace for Kiren, but

463
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Speaker 4: that could wead to go on work. It's not like

464
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Speaker 4: this Ram team throws a ton to the back and

465
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Speaker 4: backs anyway. So you're looking for Carrie volume, you know,

466
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Speaker 4: indoor high scoring, you know, efficient offense, and I think

467
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Speaker 4: you get that with the Rams.

468
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Speaker 3: So good, good environment.

469
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Speaker 4: And like you said, if something happens to Kyron, who

470
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Speaker 4: has never played more than twelve games and had his

471
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Speaker 4: highest touch count since high school, I don't even have

472
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Speaker 4: his high school stat, but he didn't have any He

473
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Speaker 4: didn't have as many touches as he had last year

474
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Speaker 4: in college at any point, So yeah, there's a lot

475
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Speaker 4: of potential for some durability. Issue was with Kyron Williams,

476
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Speaker 4: so love me some Blake Korum as well a couple

477
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Speaker 4: other guys. A few other guys. I'll mention Devin Singletary.

478
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Speaker 4: I really like him, although it is aypys starting to

479
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Speaker 4: creep up. But RB twenty eight, I still think you're

480
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Speaker 4: gonna get RB two value at an RB three price

481
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Speaker 4: from Devin Singletary because you have two Day three picks

482
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Speaker 4: behind him in the backfield. Tyrone Tracy Junior, who they

483
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Speaker 4: drafted this year, has missed time in the in camp

484
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Speaker 4: with an injury, and then Eric Gray's looked pretty good

485
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Speaker 4: in preseason. But you know, they paid Devin Singletary top

486
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Speaker 4: fifteen running back money in terms of both value of

487
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Speaker 4: the contract and guarantees after you know, saying hey, we

488
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Speaker 4: don't want to pay Saquon Barkley. So I think they're

489
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Speaker 4: gonna use Singletary a ton. And remember Joe Shane, Ryan Dable.

490
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Speaker 4: They come from Buffalo. Guess who drafted Singletary Buffalo, so

491
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Speaker 4: they have a lot of familiarity with this guy, and

492
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Speaker 4: I think he's no Saquon Barkley. But he made very

493
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Speaker 4: well be used in a similar fashion to say Kwon Barkley.

494
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Speaker 4: And I think this year defenses are gonna sit on

495
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Speaker 4: the pass a lot more because I think the Giants,

496
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Speaker 4: you know, you have neighbors, you're talking about going deep more.

497
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Speaker 4: You have Hyatt, who's another field stretcher, and Slayton two

498
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 4: field stretchers, you know, I think, and then Wandale underneath.

499
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 4: You know, ten can get separations. So I think defenses

500
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Speaker 4: are going to prioritize sitting on the pass. And if

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Speaker 4: Singletary wants to go you know, four yards and a

502
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 4: cloud of dust, you know, fifteen to twenty times a game,

503
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Speaker 4: I think defenses will be fine with that.

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Speaker 3: So I expect Singletary to beat his adp. Ezekiel Elliott.

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Speaker 4: I think, you know, the Cowboys still haven't addressed the backfield,

506
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Speaker 4: and we'll see if they do now with with final

507
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 4: cuts underway, I know they hosted Dalvin Cook, but he's

508
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Speaker 4: cooked for real.

509
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Speaker 3: I don't think Elliott.

510
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Speaker 4: I don't think Elliott is quite as cooked as maybe

511
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Speaker 4: people think. Yes, he had a low yard per carry

512
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Speaker 4: the last couple of years, but what you're really looking

513
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Speaker 4: for at RB thirty seven is enough volume to be passable,

514
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 4: you know, week to week, which I think he's gonna

515
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 4: get because it looks like he's he's going to be

516
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 4: the start of the season as the lead back over

517
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Speaker 4: Rico Daudle. You know, Elliott was kept in bubble wrap

518
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Speaker 4: all preseason. I'm pretty bullish on Elliott, and I was

519
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 4: checking sportsbooks and they're even more bullish, like they have

520
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Speaker 4: him for like like like over thirty catches and I think, like, oh,

521
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 4: pretty much, you know, holling In on like thousand scrimmage yards,

522
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Speaker 4: which is kind of surprising.

523
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Speaker 3: So you know, I'm not sweeping on Zeke. He's not

524
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Speaker 3: ancient yet.

525
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Speaker 4: I think he's what was he twenty nine or he's

526
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 4: twenty nine this year, so he's older but not completely ancient.

527
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Speaker 4: And the interior of the Cowboy line is still the

528
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 4: strength of the team.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: The tackle situation might be a little dicey, but Zeke

531
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Speaker 4: ten touchdowns a couple of years ago in Dallas and

532
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Speaker 4: then twelve in twenty twenty two despite averaging three point

533
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 4: eight yards per carry.

534
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Speaker 3: I think he can get to double digits.

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Speaker 4: I think he can actually be give you like a

536
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Speaker 4: consistent like you know, fifty is fifty sixty scrimmage yards,

537
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 4: a few catches and a touchdown most weeks, and playing

538
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 4: ahead of Doubtle in what was the league's highest scoring

539
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,479
Speaker 4: offense last year. So I think Zeke is a bargain

540
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 4: with some upside, even though it's not sexy. And finally,

541
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Speaker 4: one other guy I really like is Tooba Hubbard at

542
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 4: RB forty five, I just think he's.

543
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 3: Going too low.

544
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Speaker 4: I mean, do you treat him as a backup to Brooks,

545
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 4: like on your running back up side, Like who is

546
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 4: he the starter or the backup?

547
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Speaker 2: That is a great question. I actually have Brooks as

548
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 2: the starter, but he's not playing the first four games,

549
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,199
Speaker 2: so this is basically Hubbard is already cashing in on

550
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Speaker 2: the injury.

551
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Speaker 1: Upside that he has.

552
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think he's a kind of back that

553
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 2: has early season value. Maybe you know, but Brooks doesn't

554
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 2: leave Frog at any point this season. But yeah, he's

555
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: a guy that, you know, people that do a zero

556
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 2: RB approach you're in need guys to actually start early

557
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 2: in the season. So that makes Hubbard like a fantastic

558
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 2: target for someone that you know needs instant production.

559
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I really like Hubbard because I think at RB

560
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 4: forty five. He's cheap enough where even if you only

561
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 4: get a month of production, it's it's kind of worth it.

562
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 4: At RB forty five, I mean, this was a guy

563
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 4: who was averaging fourteen carries and what was it, like

564
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 4: about two and a half catches him, So about sixteen

565
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 4: and a half touches per game last year, played his

566
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 4: way into a featured role over Miles Sanders and ended

567
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 4: up with two hundred and thirty eight carries on the season.

568
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 4: So Big Workload has only missed two games in his

569
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 4: entire career in three years. He's still only twenty five.

570
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 4: He can catch it, he can run it. The offensive

571
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 4: line is going to be better, and like you said, Brooks,

572
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 4: you know, I think it's there's like this anchoring bias

573
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 4: where like every time I read like a blurb on

574
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 4: a fantasy driven site about Brooks, it's like he'll miss

575
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Speaker 4: the first four games, But if you just read like

576
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 4: a normal Carolina beat, it's like, yeah, he'll miss at

577
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 4: least the first four games, oh, right, and right, because

578
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 4: it's like everyone I think this is a classic and

579
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Speaker 4: we'll talk about this more in the bus spot, but

580
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 4: it's like a classic situation where people overvalue these guys

581
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 4: that are injured and suaated to miss games coming into

582
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 4: the season, and you assume that they're just gonna, Okay,

583
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 4: he'll miss four games and you'll get like twelve games

584
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Speaker 4: of RB two value. No, you know, like, he's a

585
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 4: rookie who just missed all camp and he was injured

586
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 4: in like November. So Number one, he might not miss

587
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,719
Speaker 4: just four games. Number two, that's just his practice window.

588
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 4: They have every incentive to take it slow with the

589
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 4: guy they spent premium draft capital on. You know, they're

590
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 4: not they're not going anywhere fast.

591
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 3: They're not. It's not like they're trying to compete for

592
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 3: a Super Bowl or anything like that. And uh, he's

593
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 3: a rookie.

594
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 4: He missed a ton of camp, so you know, you

595
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 4: can't get Bryce Young plastered because he's tiny. You know,

596
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 4: if he gets hurt, that's your franchise quarterback. So you

597
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 4: have to be able to trust him in protection, all

598
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,479
Speaker 4: those things. So there is a decent chance that Brooks

599
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 4: doesn't actually leap frog Hubbard at any point.

600
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Speaker 3: I'm not saying that.

601
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 4: It's it's necessarily like a given, but it's definitely squarely

602
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 4: within the range of outcomes, and probably it's probably fifty

603
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,719
Speaker 4: to fifty at worst. So I really like Hubbard here

604
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 4: in the RB forty five range. I think he might

605
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 4: be able to get you know RB two value to

606
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 4: start the year and you know RB two flexish value

607
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 4: for much of the year, And that's a really good, good,

608
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 4: good value at RB forty five.

609
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Speaker 3: All right, wide receiver.

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Speaker 4: I really liked your one of your your first wide

641
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 4: receiver sleeper last year. That was Jaden reidat Great Call there.

642
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 4: He was what a top twenty five finishes the top

643
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Speaker 4: twenty five receiver.

644
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 3: Uh so it was hit or miss.

645
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Speaker 4: Besides that Van Jefferson and Jay Jones, you know, kind

646
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 4: of Jay Jones got Jefferson, He's just.

647
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Speaker 2: Jefferson turned into DeMarcus Robinson was whoever the hell? Don't

648
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Speaker 2: insult de Marcus Robinson? Oh no, no, I know, yeah,

649
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 2: no Van Jefferson who yeah, thank god? Yeah, I mean

650
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Speaker 2: he was probably wide receiver eighty when I said that,

651
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Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I know.

653
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 4: It happens like I had a guy to who just

654
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 4: went two guys I picked in wind Sprints all year,

655
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 4: Jalen Hyatt and Michael Gallup, but also had Rashid Rice

656
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 4: and Tank Dealt, So that worked out, uh decently well,

657
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 4: but you know these are going to be hit or miss.

658
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 4: That's the whole point. You know, you're trying to draft.

659
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 4: Once later you get in your draft, the more risky

660
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 4: you take. You don't need to hit on every pick,

661
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 4: especially late. But if you hit on a Rachie Rice

662
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 4: or a Jayden Reid or a Tank Dell, even for

663
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 4: half the year, you're in business. So with that being said,

664
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 4: who do you like at sleeper wide receiver in twenty

665
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 4: twenty four?

666
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna stick with the Jaden Reid Rashi Rice

667
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 2: tank Del trend. I'm going to talk about a couple

668
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 2: of rookies and the guy that he was rookie last

669
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 2: year but didn't play much, and the first guy up

670
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 2: is Roma Donze at wide receiver thirty nine. I think

671
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,720
Speaker 2: this wide receiver forty to fifty rangees like the sweet

672
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 2: spot to get these high upside guys because you should

673
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 2: probably have three, maybe even four receivers by now, so

674
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 2: you're just.

675
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: You know, loaning up your bench.

676
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 2: But Odunzay at wide receiver thirty nine, I think is

677
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 2: a great place to take him. He was the third

678
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 2: wide receiver drafted this year in one of the best

679
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 2: wide receiver classes we've ever seen. There's very little holes

680
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 2: to poke in his game. I think he's a complete receiver,

681
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 2: will very likely be a stud over the next decade. However,

682
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 2: similar to Ceedee Lamb and Jackson Smith and the JIGBA,

683
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: he landed on a team where he's probably gonna open

684
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 2: as the number three receiver on his team as a rookie,

685
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 2: which could you know, limit his potential ceiling a bit,

686
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 2: which is certainly why his ADP is where it is,

687
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 2: but he will offer wide receiver two upside if either

688
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 2: Dj Moore or Keenan Allen you know, ever missed time,

689
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 2: so he has that going for him even if both

690
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 2: stay healthy. I think he could hit as a rookie

691
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 2: just given how good you know, DJ Moore and Kean

692
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 2: Allen have been in their careers. They've never really been

693
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 2: high end touchdown guys. Neither one of them is top

694
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 2: ten or more receiving touchdowns in a season, and that's

695
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 2: Doonsday really profiles as you know, a complete receiver, but

696
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 2: especially in the red zone. So he could end up

697
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 2: leading this team and receiving touchdowns. I would not be

698
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 2: shocked by that. So that's sort of his path to

699
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,439
Speaker 2: get there, even despite you know, the crowded receiver room.

700
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 2: But either way, I just love his upside at this ADP.

701
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 2: It's also a bet that Caleb Williams will also exceed

702
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 2: expectations this year. So I just love where Adonsay is

703
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 2: going in the draft. So love getting him here right

704
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 2: around wide receiver forty. And then next up another rookie

705
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 2: I just absolutely love, and that's Brian Thomas Junior. He's

706
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 2: going anywhere between wide receiver forty five and fifty, which

707
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 2: again is just the ideal slot to take a guy

708
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 2: who has this much upside. You know, I've been very

709
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 2: high on him since the draft. I love this landing spot.

710
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 2: You know, he's a bigger wide receiver who could win

711
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 2: downfield and in the red zone. And I keep saying

712
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 2: he gives me Randy Moss fives. Not saying he'll be

713
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 2: a first ballot Hall of Famer, just certain aspects of

714
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 2: his game. He's willing to go up there, make contested catches,

715
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 2: can get open. I think he has a ton of

716
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 2: upside in year one, and it's this is also a

717
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 2: way to invest in a potential year four breakout for

718
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence. And you know, cal Ridley led the league

719
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 2: with end zone twenty four in zone targets last year,

720
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 2: so those are gonna have to go somewhere. I think,

721
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 2: you know, Brian Thomas Junior could take a lot of those.

722
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 2: You know, he's going to be competing with Gabe Davis,

723
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 2: you know, downfield and near the red zone. But I

724
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 2: think Thomas Junior is a more complete receiver. So I'm

725
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 2: willing to battle on him as rookie, and again, if

726
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 2: he's your first receiver on your bench. I think you've

727
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 2: done a great job. It might be hard to keep

728
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 2: him on your bench, you know, just a few weeks

729
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 2: into the season, but I think he's gonna have a

730
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 2: breakout here as a rookie.

731
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: And last, but not least, this is a very deep,

732
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:14,240
Speaker 1: deep sleeper.

733
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 2: But Andre Joseavash at wider eighty four, you know, he's

734
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 2: not the type of guy people in traditional leagues need

735
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 2: to be drafting, but you definitely need to keep him

736
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 2: on your radar with you know, Tyler Boyd. Now in Tennessee,

737
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 2: there is a wide open spot for the number three

738
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 2: wide receiver for the Bengals, which means very likely going

739
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 2: to be Joe Burrow's number three target, and as of now,

740
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 2: it looks like Joslavash has won that role. I kind

741
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 2: of predicted that if and when Higgins or Boyd moved on,

742
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: you know, I think he still could be in a

743
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 2: competition in season with third round pick Jermaine Burton, who

744
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 2: I love. But there's been some concerns about his just

745
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 2: you know, preparation, the way he handles the game. So

746
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,320
Speaker 2: I've seen him down a six on the depth. I

747
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 2: think the coaching staff he's kind of in the doghouse

748
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 2: right now. So Josevash looks like he's entering the season

749
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 2: as the number three receiver. I think he's gonna thrive

750
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 2: in that role. And it would only take a Jamar

751
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 2: Chase or te Higgins injury for him to have wide

752
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 2: receiver three plus upside.

753
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: So he's a guy we're in season.

754
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:18,919
Speaker 2: He might have a game where he catches a couple

755
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 2: of touchdowns and and you know, Chase or Higgins or

756
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 2: you know, getna mess time and people are gonna ask

757
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 2: like should I put money on this guy? And I'm

758
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 2: and be like, yes, you absolutely absolutely should add this guy.

759
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 2: You know, I think he does have top thirty upside

760
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 2: in the right situation. So he's just a guy that

761
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 2: again you're not drafting in normal leagues, but you have

762
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 2: to have him on your radar in season.

763
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I think when at first when you were

764
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 4: we were preparing for the pod, you were gonna go

765
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 4: with Burton and then I see, I saw you change

766
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 4: it to Yoseavash, and I was like, yes, yes, that

767
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 4: is the right guy, because I know you've been You've

768
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 4: been following the Bengal beat just as I do.

769
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 3: Like you know, full disclosure.

770
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 4: I you know, since I started doing this, I rarely

771
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 4: read like other people's fantasy content, like outside of maybe

772
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 4: you and a few other people, and that's there's a

773
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 4: lot of great content out there, but I find it

774
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 4: a lot more helpful to just read like y in

775
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 4: the weeds, bet beat stuff, local reports and yeah, they

776
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 4: just said the trust just isn't there with Burton and Burrows.

777
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 4: So he's caught two long touchdowns, but josevs. They love him.

778
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 4: You know, he's obviously a year ahead now of Burton,

779
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 4: and that's kind of you know, I think Burton might

780
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 4: be a year away or so maybe it's a second

781
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 4: half of the year breakout, but jose of us going

782
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 4: to get every chance to start, and that could mean playing,

783
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 4: you know, eighty eighty five percent of the snaps with

784
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow and like you said, being his number three targets.

785
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 3: So I really really like that call.

786
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 4: It's a deep sleeper, but that's you know, if you're

787
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 4: targeting a deep sleeper, you want it from a quarterback

788
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 4: that can throw, you know, for forty five fifty five k

789
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 4: yards and forty plus touchdowns, and Bro can certainly do that.

790
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 1: All right.

791
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 4: I got a few guys who and again I try

792
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 4: to prioritize guys here who you can get outside of

793
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 4: the startable range that should be able to give you

794
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 4: startable value and consistent value, and the reason being because

795
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 4: they should they have a good chance to be their

796
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 4: team's either number one receiver or top two target on

797
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 4: their team, which I think is really all you can

798
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 4: ask for when you're drafting guys, you know, outside that

799
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 4: top thirty thirty five. And so the first guy, Deontay Johnson,

800
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 4: I really like him at wide receivers thirty eight. Already

801
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 4: talked about how I expect Bryce Young to be a

802
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 4: lot better in year two with Canallis coming over, you know,

803
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 4: the quarterback whisperer, with Deontay Johnson going back to playing

804
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 4: the X receiver position where he's had his most of

805
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 4: his success throughout his career. Last year he was playing

806
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 4: the Z with Pickins at the X and it just

807
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 4: didn't really go too well, and then it ended up

808
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 4: with him getting traded to Carolina. So Johnson said, the

809
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 4: first thing Canals told him when he got there was

810
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 4: you're gonna be my featured X receiver. That means he's

811
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 4: rarely gonna come off the field. This is a guy

812
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,879
Speaker 4: who gets a ton of separation. He can be targeted at,

813
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 4: you know, at twenty four twenty.

814
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 3: Five percent per route.

815
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 4: So really like Deontay Johnson here in what should be

816
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 4: a more efficient UH Carolina passing attack with targets up

817
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 4: for grabs. Here in year two of Bryce Young, DeAndre

818
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 4: Hopkins wide receiver forty two. I'll buy the dip on

819
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 4: that all day. Hopkins was a guy who was targeted

820
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 4: on over twenty five percent of his routes last season,

821
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 4: which is excellent. You know Ridley was closer to twenty percent,

822
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 4: so Hopkins. If both guys are healthy, Hopkins still would

823
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 4: project as the number umber one receiver in Tennessee. And

824
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 4: he looks like he even has a chance to get

825
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 4: back for Week one. But you know, I usually don't

826
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 4: like to target guys who are hurt heading into the year.

827
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 4: But DeAndre Hopkins has you know, top fifteen, you know,

828
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 4: wide receiver one upside. You know he's one of the

829
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 4: most talented wide receivers in the league. And remember this

830
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,760
Speaker 4: Tennessee offense is going to be completely different under Brian

831
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 4: Callahan coming over, who's coming over from Cincinnati where he

832
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 4: was the offensive coordinator. It's going to be a lot

833
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 4: more one to one personnel and a lot more pass heavy,

834
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 4: you know, similar to the offenses that Joe Burrow and

835
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 4: Jake Browning even last year had success. And so I think,

836
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 4: I think Hopkins is a really sneaky pick and people

837
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 4: are just discounting.

838
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 3: Him way too much.

839
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 4: A rare time where I'm buying on a guy that's

840
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 4: banged up heading into the year. But you know, even

841
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 4: with projecting some some injury issues for Hopkins, I still

842
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 4: have you in the mid thirties at wide receiver.

843
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 3: So I think and I think he can be.

844
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 4: I think he has more upside, even greater than that,

845
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 4: because remember him and Levis connected on on I think

846
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 4: they had it what like a three four touchdown game

847
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 4: at one point, you know, so there's there's chemistry there. Yeah,

848
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 4: four touchdown games, So there's chemistry there. The volume is

849
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 4: going to be there, and he still projects that as

850
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 4: a target hog in this offense, in which would be

851
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 4: it's not gonna be the Derrick Henry you know, heavy

852
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 4: personnel slam, yes, you know Henry and Spears kind of

853
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 4: running the show. This is going to be a I

854
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 4: think a much pass happier offense. So love Hopkins, Courtland

855
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 4: Sutton another guy who not not too sexy, but a

856
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 4: wide receiver forty six. I the way, when I project

857
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 4: that out, that's essentially his floor. I mean he's I

858
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,439
Speaker 4: don't expect them to repeat the ten touchdowns from last year,

859
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 4: but the.

860
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,760
Speaker 3: Season before, the two seasons.

861
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 4: Before that, he only had a couple of touchdowns each time,

862
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 4: and he was still in that in that you know,

863
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 4: high to mid forty range. So I think he's being

864
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 4: taken at his floor. You know, he's still not too old.

865
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 4: Is a year removed from that ACL he suffered a

866
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 4: few years ago, another year removed from the ACL he

867
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 4: suffered a few years ago. I don't think that going

868
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 4: from cooked Russell Wilson to bo Nicks is a massive downgrade.

869
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 4: I still think Sutton is going to be the unquestioned

870
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 4: target leader of this team. Looks like they're trying to

871
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 4: move Tim Patrick, so you know you're gonna be competing

872
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 4: with like Mims and rookies and Dulcic and running backs

873
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 4: like I think Sutton is being undervalued here. He could

874
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 4: be consistent, you know, at least the wide receiver three,

875
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 4: but upside for more Keon Coleman at wide receiver forty eight.

876
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 4: He's my he's my favorite bill of the three of

877
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 4: Shakir and Samuel, they all go around the same spot.

878
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 4: I like Coleman the rookie because I think he's the

879
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 4: guy with the most touchdown upside. And with Josh Allen,

880
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 4: you don't need a ton of separation, you just need

881
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 4: you just need size and he'll force the ball to you.

882
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,760
Speaker 4: And I think that could happen with Coleman. So you know, Shakier,

883
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 4: great player, better bet and probably full PPR. But I

884
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 4: like Coleman in all fourmats because I think he has

885
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 4: the most upside of these three wide receivers. Still, I

886
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 4: think only twenty one years old, so very young, very raw,

887
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 4: but they drafted him early for a reason. And finally

888
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,439
Speaker 4: love Lad McConkie. But he's up to wide receiver forty three.

889
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 4: So I'll take Josh Palmer at wide receiver fifty five

890
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 4: because it looks like but Kanky is gonna come off

891
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 4: the field in you know, one two personnel, you know,

892
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 4: because he's going to be more of the slot receiver

893
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 4: to start. He can play inside, outside, but Stoker Palmer

894
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 4: could play all the spots and he was treated like

895
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 4: the number one All Sea all preseason. Still got Justin

896
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 4: Herbert at quarterback. I know it's going to be a run,

897
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 4: heavier offense, but I'll take Justin Herbert's potential top target

898
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 4: all day at wide receiver fifty five, So Deontay, DeAndre Hopkins,

899
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 4: Courtland Sutton, Keon Coleman, and Jeff Blomerck.

900
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm definitely warming up to Keon Coleman because you

901
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 2: know the Bills are going to run a lot of heavy,

902
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 2: too tight and personnel, and when it comes to the Bills,

903
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 2: I always try to think who's going to be on

904
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 2: the field in those sets, and I think Coleman's a

905
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 2: luck right, and then it's kind of yeah, It's then

906
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 2: it's up in the air whether it's Shakir or Samuel

907
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 2: or maybe they they put like a mac Collins out

908
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 2: there in those situations.

909
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: But it does seem.

910
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 2: Like Keon Coleman would be the most likely one to

911
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 2: be out there all the time, which is why I've

912
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 2: been moving him up, because he does profiles that he

913
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 2: could really play at all level. But that's that's one

914
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 2: of the selling points for me on the Bills receivers

915
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 2: because I think we do have to take shots on

916
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 2: these guys. I think one of them or maybe two

917
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 2: of them will pop, and I think right now most

918
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 2: likely ones the rookie.

919
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I just you know, he has the

920
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 4: most upside and like the he has the most touchdown upside,

921
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 4: and at the end of the day, that's kind of

922
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 4: what you're looking for. I mean, Shakir is great. He

923
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 4: could he could be a guy that's that catches uh

924
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 4: four balls a game, but that's he's probably his ceiling

925
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 4: and floor.

926
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 3: I don't think our is far apart for res Coleman.

927
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 4: You know, he played every step in the preseason with

928
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 4: the first team, and he has that ten touchdown upside

929
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 4: and that upside to just be like a legit number

930
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 4: one X receiver.

931
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 3: You know, it's not necessarily.

932
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 4: Maybe like seventy percent likely, but it's definitely like a

933
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 4: forty fifty percent shot, and I think at wide receiver

934
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 4: forty eight, it's worth it. So yeah, I've been warming

935
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 4: up to him as well. He's definitely the one I

936
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 4: prefer out of the three. Let's finish it up with

937
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 4: tight end here, both of us last year, Sam Laporta,

938
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 4: Dalton Kincaid so that worked out swimmingly, and I actually

939
00:47:55,440 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 4: also went two for three. I named Higbee which was

940
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 4: a miss, but Jake Ferguson and Luke Musgrave which well,

941
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 4: Musgrave when he was in the lineup was pretty good,

942
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 4: but Ferguson was great. So we had some hits here

943
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 4: at tight end last season. Let's try to keep it going.

944
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 4: Who do you like this year?

945
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if he could top Laporta and

946
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 2: kN K, but I mean to talk about two guys

947
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 2: that kind of fit that profile. I don't think they

948
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 2: have as much upside. But the first guy is Kay

949
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 2: Otton at tight end twenty. He's right, he's rked right

950
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 2: about where he should go, but he's the type of

951
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 2: tight end in this range. I think that has tight

952
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 2: end one potential this year. You know, he has elite

953
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 2: underlying usage in terms of playing time. He averaged a

954
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 2: ninety one percent route participation rate from Week four on

955
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 2: last year. Unfortunately, he just doesn't draw as many targets

956
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 2: to be a tight end one. But this is going

957
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 2: to be his third season. He's twenty five years old.

958
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 2: This is when tight ends do typically break out if

959
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 2: they are going to be you know, tight end one.

960
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 2: So could see a breakout season year. He was drafted

961
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 2: in the fourth round, that the same class as Trey McBride,

962
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 2: who in the second round. He was a similar type

963
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 2: of prospect, So that's kind of what you know, you

964
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 2: could see in a year free breakout, and he showed

965
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 2: it flashes. Actually in the playoffs last year. He went

966
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 2: off in the first game. I think he had another

967
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 2: good game the very next round. But all you would

968
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 2: need is just an increase in target rate because he

969
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 2: the playing times there and you know, ever since he

970
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 2: became the starter back in Week five of his rookie

971
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 2: season two years ago, Mike Evans and Chris Goden have

972
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 2: played every single game, so he has yet to see

973
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 2: any sort of baked in injury upside where one or

974
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 2: two of those guys do miss the game.

975
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 1: So this has pretty much been his floor.

976
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 2: So I think tight end twenty, you know you're not

977
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 2: drafting him, but he's going to be on the waiver wire,

978
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,439
Speaker 2: and he's the type of guy that could go off,

979
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 2: or Mike Evans or Chris Godwin go down, and he's

980
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 2: the kind of guy that you need to pick up

981
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 2: because he could offer tight end one value at some

982
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 2: point in the season. And the other guy is actually

983
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 2: a guy you mentioned last year. Loved them heading into

984
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 2: last year as well. It's Luke Musgrave tight end eighteen.

985
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 2: You know, he has a ton of upside in this range.

986
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 2: Like you said, he flashed that upside in the first

987
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 2: half last season, but he went down missed most of

988
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 2: the second half due to injury. Fellow rookie Tucker Craft

989
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 2: filled in nicely in his place. You know, they're probably

990
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 2: going to be in some sort of time share this year,

991
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,399
Speaker 2: so that's why his his ADP is down here near

992
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 2: tight end twenty. But he could just the Packers might

993
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 2: prefer just having you know, a legit number one tight end,

994
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 2: so there's a chance he could see an eighty percent

995
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,280
Speaker 2: snap rate or something going forward, or if Tucker Craft

996
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 2: were to miss time. He's the guy be very interested

997
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 2: in just this this offense in general under Jordan Love

998
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 2: I'm very high on. So he's a guy that he

999
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 2: would need certain things to line up, but he absolutely

1000
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 2: has you know, top twelve upside. So he's another guy

1001
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 2: you know to monitor in season to potentially be like

1002
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 2: a waiver wire league winner type.

1003
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1004
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,280
Speaker 4: I have them with about a like a fifty seven

1005
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 4: to forty three, split in favor of Morave and I

1006
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 4: still have him ranked as my tight end sixteen. So wow,

1007
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 4: And I'm it's just another way to invest in Jordan Love,

1008
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 4: which I highly recommend heading into twenty twenty four. I

1009
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 4: got three guys, and these guys again are I'm looking

1010
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 4: for guys that I think and I like to call

1011
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 4: on Musgrave especially other guys that I think could.

1012
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 3: Give you startable value.

1013
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 4: And it's tough, but the first guy's Taysom Hill, a

1014
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,760
Speaker 4: tight end seventeen. You know, in there was some worry

1015
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 4: that you know, with Carmichael moving on and Peyton Longan,

1016
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 4: you know, maybe Hill was not going to be as

1017
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 4: involved under the new offensive coordinator Coint Kubiak.

1018
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 3: But you know, he was getting about.

1019
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 4: A forty over a forty percent a route participation rate

1020
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 4: in the preseason, handling guests under forty percent of the carry,

1021
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 4: so he's definitely going to be involved. The only thing

1022
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 4: is it's not always going to be super consistent. But

1023
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 4: Taysom Hill has finished as a tight end one in

1024
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 4: the past couple of years, you know, even with you know,

1025
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 4: some kind of touch and go usage. So if you're

1026
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 4: taking if you kind of miss out on tight end,

1027
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 4: you could do worse than taking a guy like Taysom Hill,

1028
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 4: who's gonna get snaps at running back, get snaps at

1029
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,399
Speaker 4: the goal on, get snaps at the tight end.

1030
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 3: He could throw a few passes.

1031
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 4: Here and there, probably get some returns as well, so

1032
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 4: he could do it all.

1033
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,399
Speaker 3: A lot of upsides with him.

1034
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 4: Another guy, Zach Ertz at tight end thirty one, He's

1035
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 4: going to open a year as an every down player

1036
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 4: and probably the number two target in that offense.

1037
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,399
Speaker 3: Now can you stay healthy? Who knows?

1038
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 4: But he's free, So it does in re draft leaks,

1039
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 4: it doesn't really matter.

1040
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 3: Just try it out and see how it goes. But

1041
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 3: remember Kingsbury.

1042
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 4: He had this situation a couple of years ago with

1043
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 4: a you know, a day two rookie and McBride behind Ertz,

1044
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,720
Speaker 4: and Ertz was a you know, eighty percent player, every

1045
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 4: down starter in you know, big part of the offense

1046
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 4: until he got hurt. And I think that same thing

1047
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 4: is going to happen this year with Benson O, who

1048
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 4: was playing you know, not just behind Urtz, but behind

1049
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 4: John Bates as well. So I think Ertz is you know,

1050
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 4: going to be out there and he's not out there

1051
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 4: to block, so he's been in bubble wrap all preseason.

1052
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 4: I think he has a good chance that at least

1053
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 4: give you some early season value, maybe before he goes

1054
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 4: down to like mid season. You know, he'll play his

1055
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 4: customary you know, eight to ten games and catch five

1056
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 4: balls in those games and on average, and then and

1057
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,959
Speaker 4: then go down. But at tight end thirty one, can't can't,

1058
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 4: can't really knock it in the final one. Kobe Parkinson

1059
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 4: tight end thirty four. You know they gave him big money.

1060
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 4: Tyra Higby is starting the year on the on the

1061
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 4: pup and he's he he.

1062
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 3: Got hurt way late.

1063
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 4: I think he got hurt in like or he had

1064
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 4: surgery and then like what January or something like that. So, uh,

1065
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 4: there's a chance it's just lost season for Higbee. And

1066
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 4: the way the money they gave Parkinson, Uh, there's a

1067
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 4: good chance that they envisioned him sliding right into that

1068
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 4: Higby role and that role was good for eighty percent

1069
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 4: route participation rate on average. And if he gets that,

1070
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 4: I mean you're talking about a Matthew Stafford offense. A

1071
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 4: lot of games indoors, they don't throw to the running

1072
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 4: back a Ton, the running back tends to be the

1073
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 4: blocker more, you know, past blocker more than the tight

1074
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 4: end who's more more often in the route. So Parkinson

1075
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,959
Speaker 4: has a chance here to be, you know, maybe even

1076
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 4: the number three target if let's say Robinson at well

1077
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 4: and Whittington kind of formed some sort of committee or

1078
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 4: something like that which could happen.

1079
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 3: So I think Parkinson is really being slept on.

1080
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 4: He's one of the few guys that you could get

1081
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Speaker 3: So like Parkinson at to thirty four as well. All right,

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Speaker 3: that is gonna do it.

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Speaker 4: For our Sweepers episode, just to a recap quarterback, Sean

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Speaker 4: had Caleb Williams, Trevor Lawrence, Sam Darnold, I had Jaden,

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Speaker 4: Daniel Williams, Gino Smith, and Bryce Young. At running back,

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Speaker 4: Taysom Hill, Zach Ert, Kobe Parkinson. That's gonna do it

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