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Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

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Speaker 2: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly, he

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Speaker 3: is the Matt Williamson and it is a well, it's

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Speaker 3: a rainy non victory Monday here in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, we were festive before we hit record though.

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Speaker 3: We were having a good time.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they can always make a make something good

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Speaker 4: out of a bad situation.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing, Like you and I both picked the

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Speaker 3: Eagles to win that game. Neither one of us expected

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Speaker 3: the Steelers to go out there and win. I just

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Speaker 3: wanted to see how they matched up against that Philadelphia team.

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Speaker 3: And I got to say, you know, I know the

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Speaker 3: score was twenty seven thirteen, and the Eagles did what

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Speaker 3: they did at the end of the game. But I

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Speaker 3: got through that game. In the first half, I'm watching

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Speaker 3: Steelers had went three and out in their first five possessions.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a rough start, rough start.

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Speaker 3: The Eagles were scoring some points and then you look

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Speaker 3: up at halftime and it's seventeen thirteen, and I'm like, like, at.

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Speaker 4: That point, I bet the Eagles were like, what are

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Speaker 4: we doing here? Yeah? How did this happen? Why was

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Speaker 4: this a game going into the half? You know, why

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Speaker 4: don't we bury them?

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Speaker 1: Then?

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Speaker 3: And so and even at that, the Eagles then come

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Speaker 3: out and get they score a field goal in the

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Speaker 3: opening kickoff of the second half. So it's twenty to

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Speaker 3: thirteen and the Steelers come right out and hit the

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Speaker 3: flea flicker and they're driving back to back runs by

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Speaker 3: Jalen Warren. They pick up another first down there they're at,

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Speaker 3: you know, inside the almost getting ready to go into

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Speaker 3: the fumble, and that just kind of seemed to change

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Speaker 3: the tenor of the game a little bit. I thought

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Speaker 3: the Steelers had weathered the storm early in that game,

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Speaker 3: which there's often is often the case in a game

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Speaker 3: like that in their building, you got to kind of,

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Speaker 3: you know, roll with the conscience a little bit. I

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Speaker 3: thought they had done that and had changed the momentum

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Speaker 3: a little bit and it had kind of turned it

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Speaker 3: back their own way, and you know, the turnover killed them. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think they lose that game nine out of ten times. Well,

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Speaker 4: you didn't say any differently.

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Speaker 3: You know, they've They've lost out there eleven times in

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Speaker 3: a row. They haven't won there since nineteen sixty five.

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Speaker 3: I did not expect them to win the game. What

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Speaker 3: I didn't want to see was them get and I

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Speaker 3: know the final numbers looked like it. They were badly outplayed,

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Speaker 3: and to a degree, they were. But you were down

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Speaker 3: once once, once Dante Jackson left the game. You're down

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Speaker 3: two starters in the secondary, no George Pickens, which changes

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Speaker 3: the entire way of how they defend you.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's coming in. You knew that was going

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Speaker 3: You know you're you're missing at the starting defensive linemen

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Speaker 4: Clearly, that was goal number one.

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Speaker 3: That was goal number one. They weren't gonna let Saquan

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Speaker 4: And we said that all week, like if hurts nickels

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Speaker 4: and dimes and complete passes on that's what they're hurting

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Speaker 4: to do. Tip your hat to him, and he did.

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Speaker 4: You know, I thought he played really well.

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Speaker 3: But who is the best tackler on this defense? To me,

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Speaker 3: it's it's Shawn say it Elliott, It's Deshaun Elliott. Elliott

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Speaker 3: and Minka would do the two best. Yeah, and so

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Speaker 3: by what they did was they put Menca up closer

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Speaker 3: than a line of scrimmage in this game, he was

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Speaker 3: basically took Elliott's role.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, And you know, so you in a way

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Speaker 4: he got weak or two spots, right, you know, in

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Speaker 3: But this was not I mean I was I was

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Speaker 4: This was not that okay. So I thought they were

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Speaker 4: clearly the inferior team, you know. I mean, and I

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Speaker 4: was just thinking about it before we hit record too.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, even going into this game, if I had

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Speaker 4: to draft out of the other thirty one teams, who

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Speaker 4: do I least want to play in the league? This

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Speaker 4: matchup for the Steelers. They have tackles that can deal

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Speaker 4: with your edges. Their receivers are a real problem. Barkley,

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Speaker 4: I mean, this is a really really good football team.

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Speaker 4: But I definitely think there is some credence to you

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Speaker 4: cause two turnovers really early with good field position and

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Speaker 4: great field position, that can't be three points. I mean

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Speaker 3: Three one point and the one they're going in for

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Speaker 3: eleven on the fumbled punt, Yeah, they're going in for

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Speaker 3: They get a seven yard game on first down, and

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Speaker 3: Darnell Washington takes Darius Slay and drives him through the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, into the fifth row. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Now, people, and I get it. You have to realize,

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Speaker 3: you don't know exactly where you're at, but you can

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Speaker 3: see this. You can see the stands coming up. You

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Speaker 4: I think that's trying to put a statement for the

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Speaker 3: And I get it. And he has to know he

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Speaker 3: can't do that. No, Slay through a punch. I'm looking

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Speaker 3: right at it. It's right down below us. We're in

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Speaker 3: that we're basically the press boxes in that en zone.

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Speaker 3: I could see the punch. Co then everybody comes and

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Speaker 3: Mitchell through at Calvin Austen and they meet about it.

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Speaker 3: They have a discussion and they decide none of the

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Speaker 3: Eagles did anything wrong. Two penalties on the Steelers moved

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Speaker 3: the ball back to the nineteen and you get three.

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Speaker 3: You get three.

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Speaker 4: That's offsetting nine out of ten times, and even.

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Speaker 3: The ninety nine out of one hundred times off set.

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Speaker 4: That's the right call too, There's no doubt about that. Now,

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Speaker 4: where I's going with this is you. You weren't playing

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Speaker 3: But that gave you, that gave you a little bit

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Speaker 4: But as we've seen with this offense too, even when

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Speaker 4: you don't come in with a good enough plan. Okay,

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Speaker 4: but I think it's a glass half full, glass half

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Speaker 3: They just didn't get any plays in the second half.

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Speaker 3: They were eleven plays in the second half. Second half

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Speaker 4: And the nausey fumble was as untimely as you could

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Speaker 4: ask for. And he's the surehand, most sure handed guy

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Speaker 4: as fluky of play as there's going to be. But

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Speaker 4: it was a mistake by your most sure handed guy

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Speaker 4: at the worst time. Again, I don't think they win

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Speaker 4: that game a high percentage of the time no matter

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's a route in the end. No,

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Speaker 3: No, I'm with you, and you know I know that.

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Speaker 3: You know they had the It was a twenty one

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Speaker 3: that point the game's over. They had run twenty more

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Speaker 3: it ended up being almost thirty because it was just

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Speaker 3: clock killing. Yeah, your offense did nothing early to keep

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Speaker 4: Defense is bad defense. Yeah, it's always gonna be the case.

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Speaker 3: They ran seventy one plays, you know, and the Steelers, it.

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Speaker 4: Was timon possession was basically equals.

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Speaker 3: It was seventy seven to forty one. Yeah, right, Like

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Speaker 3: they ran twenty six more plays than you know, thirty

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Speaker 3: six more plays than you did, which is thirty six rare.

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Speaker 3: That's like almost a game's worth.

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Speaker 4: Almost a games worth. So and that's often what the

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Speaker 4: Steelers are their opponent. Yeah, And but the Eagles do

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Speaker 4: it better than anybody. I mean, usually it's because they

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Speaker 4: And I thought Hurts played the best he has in months.

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Speaker 3: were one for nine on third downs, Yeah, yeah, one

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Speaker 3: You're fatigued, start to get fatigued.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I was a little shocked with you know,

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Speaker 4: I just had that feeling to it a lot, which

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Speaker 4: I thought they were the inferior team against what I

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Speaker 4: now think it's the best team in the league and

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Speaker 4: the worst matchup for this team in the league. But

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Speaker 4: the world also isn't falling. And you know, we do

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Speaker 4: the pregame show, Tim Benz, you were on the hour

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Speaker 4: after me for away games, and we do a globally

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Speaker 4: the show at nine o'clock. And Tim's match, what's your

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Speaker 4: globally speaking and mine is beat the Ravens. He said, well,

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Speaker 4: it's Eagles week. I might all it matters. I'm not

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Speaker 4: punting on this game. Yeah, but globally speaking, beat the Ravens.

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Speaker 3: If you beat the Ravens this week, you win the division.

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Speaker 4: You win division. That's the goal here is to win

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Speaker 4: the super Bowl, and the path to do that is

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Speaker 4: winning the division. Losing in Philly isn't the most important

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Speaker 4: globally that. That's why we do this segment globally speaking.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, Tomlinism or whatever.

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Speaker 3: Beat the Ravens, and if you beat the Ravens this week,

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Speaker 3: nobody's gonna think anything, Well, yeah, that was a bad

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Speaker 3: It wasn't like that today. They weren't real happy to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like, what are we talking If you did review

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Speaker 3: you're going to get the first down. Yeah, you're down

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Speaker 4: Now. Yeah, it was kind of like the Washington one

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Speaker 4: So there were there were definitely big plays in that regard.

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Speaker 4: People want to blame Tomlin for the fourth and seven

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Speaker 3: It's a hard thing to stop. There were some good

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I had a real similar conversation with Wolf and

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Speaker 3: You know, Pro Football Focus credited Lane Johnson. We saw

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Speaker 4: I was like, that's insane. I think he'd be the

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Speaker 4: I had read that, and I was like for another podcast.

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Speaker 3: it might have been what it might have been, right,

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Speaker 3: But you know, real quick, Mike Tomlin held his news

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Speaker 4: So he didn't phrase it like, oh, we're hoping or

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Speaker 3: There was no hope. It was like, I feel pretty

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Speaker 4: Right right, because this is this is the game, all

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Speaker 4: further notice, you lose this one, then you got other

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Speaker 3: The only thing that does concern me about this one

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Speaker 4: One less day, and then you get one less day

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Speaker 4: You know, I haven't studied this night.

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Speaker 3: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly. He is

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Speaker 3: You had to get sick and tired of calling the

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Speaker 3: Steelers defense yesterday being on the field second half.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you broke up slightly when Okay.

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Speaker 3: So I said you had to get a little tired

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Speaker 3: of calling the Steelers defense on the field yesterday, to

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Speaker 3: be loose Kinger, be loose Kinger. No, I'm not going

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Speaker 3: in my defense there is I didn't hear any of that.

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Speaker 4: So you had to get sick of calling the Steelers defense.

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Speaker 3: People are getting sick of this.

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Speaker 4: Question, right, Hey, how's things going?

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Speaker 1: Hey?

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Speaker 4: How you published author Rob.

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Speaker 3: King doing the Stone Amazon?

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Speaker 4: Amazon? So back to the game. What do you think

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Speaker 4: of calling the Steelers defense?

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Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, yeah, it was out there a lot. I

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Speaker 1: mean it was I don't ever remember seeing a game

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Speaker 1: quite like that from anybody's perspective, even back in the

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Speaker 1: day when the Steelers were you know, ground and pound

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Speaker 1: and munching out drives. You know, you don't see the

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Speaker 1: students on on that side of things. Very often they

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Speaker 1: just couldn't make a play, you know, offensively or defensively.

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Speaker 1: We talk about complimentary football, They just couldn't, you know,

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Speaker 1: they couldn't find a way to either sustain a drive

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Speaker 1: to give a defensive break or for the defense to

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Speaker 1: get off the field to get the offensive opportunity. You know,

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Speaker 1: there were the more I look at at the calls

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Speaker 1: that were made against them, the or some bad calls

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Speaker 1: against them, they just it was a game in which

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Speaker 1: they just couldn't catch a break. Really, and you know,

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Speaker 1: again it's not you'd have liked to have seen them

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Speaker 1: rise to the challenge, get off the field, make a play,

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Speaker 1: and that second happened. It just it just didn't happen.

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Speaker 4: In a slow start, some calls didn't go your way.

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Speaker 4: You know, you get those two turnovers deep in your

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Speaker 4: own end. And when things are looking good, they don't

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Speaker 4: mind that Philly's swinging and you're not. When Darnel Washington's

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Speaker 4: planting guys in the front row, and these aren't excuses.

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Speaker 4: But against a team like Philly in that building, it's

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Speaker 4: gonna snowball every time, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: We were talking, yeah, we were talking earlier, and I

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Speaker 1: think you made a really good analogy when you brought

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Speaker 1: up to Colts.

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Speaker 3: That is impossible.

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Speaker 1: I felt.

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Speaker 3: There was a game.

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Speaker 1: So uh, you know, there were six or seven plays

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Speaker 1: in the game. You know, it's kind of a head scratch.

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Speaker 1: You walked out of that stadium, you know, thinking what

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Speaker 1: what just happened? How did that happens? They lost the game? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Colts game the series are the better team, and

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Speaker 1: they lost the game. And if any one of six

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Speaker 1: or seven things had gone their way, they would have

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Speaker 1: won the game, any one of them. Just every break

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Speaker 1: seemed to go against them. Well in this one, you know,

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Speaker 1: if the game, if breaks had gone their way, they

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Speaker 1: would have been in the game. That's all we can really.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know they might have gone.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the opponent's the opponent is a more quality opponent.

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Speaker 1: But uh, you know, And and that was telling. It

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Speaker 1: showed because when you didn't get the brakes, they brought

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Speaker 1: their quality to bear on the Steelers and it was

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Speaker 1: tough to watch. It was tough to it was tough

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Speaker 1: to not be able to see the team get off

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Speaker 1: the field. But you understand why they couldn't. Why couldn't

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Speaker 1: they well, because when your offense goes five straight three

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Speaker 1: and outs, I mean, you're you're jogging off the field

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Speaker 1: and you know, you're tying your shoes and you're gonna

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Speaker 1: sit down and talk to your coaches, and all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden they saying, hey, punt team, and you're like, whoa,

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Speaker 1: I guess we're back out there again, you know, And

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Speaker 1: that wears on a team, and so you know, you

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Speaker 1: can't just play the the defense because the offense didn't

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Speaker 1: help the in the first half. And you can't just

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Speaker 1: play the offense because you know, the the defense didn't

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Speaker 1: get in the ball back on the second half, and

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Speaker 1: then the officials didn't help. But I'm still you know,

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Speaker 1: and again I've tried to explain this to people like I.

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Speaker 1: I watched the game differently when I'm calling it than

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Speaker 1: I do when I'm a fan. I frequently do not

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Speaker 1: watch the replays because I've got other things to do.

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Speaker 1: I've got other things to I'm preparing for the next play,

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Speaker 1: you know, and I'm at home, of course I'm glued

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Speaker 1: into every replay. I'm annoying my wife by hitting pause

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Speaker 1: and saying, look, I think they're going to roll into

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Speaker 1: a cover two hunting, and she's just like, just just

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Speaker 1: could we just watch the game please? But when I'm

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Speaker 1: calling the game that, that's it's not the same way.

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Speaker 1: So I didn't see the replay, and I don't know

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Speaker 1: what they showed it on TV. But I've seen the

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Speaker 1: video now of that what happened in the end zone.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand how you could have reviewed that.

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't understand how the official who broke

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Speaker 3: who first came in and broke up the scrum, was

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Speaker 3: right there when the punch was thrown. I don't understand

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Speaker 3: how he doesn't see that.

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Speaker 1: Look, could you? Could you have said Darnell Washington played

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Speaker 1: past the whistle there and called him. I guess so,

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Speaker 1: I mean, assuming.

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Speaker 4: He heard the I think that's pretty clear. I mean

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Speaker 4: he's into the second row.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, normally, you know, and again I don't know

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Speaker 1: whether the game has changed. But you know, like that's

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Speaker 1: you know, in any any team I've ever been around,

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Speaker 1: or that's applauded, takes great job, you know, you know, like, hey, listen,

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Speaker 1: if you drive this guy to the stand, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'll give you five dollars. You know, like that's like

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Speaker 1: that's like something that's encouraged.

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Speaker 4: You know, the whistle.

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Speaker 1: Okay, maybe you want a little pass the whistle. Fine.

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Speaker 1: A lot of times that stuff is you know, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if that's necessarily called, especially you know, if

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Speaker 1: you're not like giving him the business or whatever. But

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Speaker 1: at the at the least, at the at the worst,

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Speaker 1: it should have been offsetting. And then you know, the punt,

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Speaker 1: and again, those are those are big issues. Those are

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Speaker 1: big things that happen in the course of the game.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, I think if you were looking at

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Speaker 1: the game, you could clearly say, hey, the fumble, my

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Speaker 1: Nagie Harris and and there must have been a blue

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Speaker 1: moon because that's how often Najia Harris fumbles. I'm not

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Speaker 1: the least concerned about Naji Harris fumbling, you know, but

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Speaker 1: that's Can you point in that and say that's the

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Speaker 1: turning point of the game. You had an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: tie it up. Yeah, you had an opportunity to get

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Speaker 1: back of the game. You had an opportunity to be

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Speaker 1: at the break even point with a quarter and a

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Speaker 1: half of football left. If you march down and scored

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Speaker 1: the touchdown, there's still no asshurts. You marched down and

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Speaker 1: score a touchdown. So they're just there's so many things

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Speaker 1: happened in that game that the Steels, you know, had

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Speaker 1: opportunities to make tackles, to make plays and it didn't happen.

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Speaker 1: And a good team shows you what happened. Happens when

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Speaker 1: you don't, you know, when you allow them to take

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Speaker 1: advantage of your mistakes, that's what happened.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just look at that that first as bad

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Speaker 3: as that first half was offensively, and you mentioned the

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Speaker 3: five to three and outs to start the game, at

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Speaker 3: the end of the first half, the Eagles had run

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Speaker 3: thirty one offensive plays and the Steelers had run thirty Yeah. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 3: and it ended up seventy seven forty one Bonker. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean that that's just insane. I've never seen anything

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Speaker 3: like that.

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Speaker 1: No, I, neither of I, neither of I. Forty six

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Speaker 1: to eleven place. I mean it's thirteen, thirteen and twenty

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Speaker 1: three drives in the second half, three long Eagles drives.

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Speaker 4: Did you get tired of?

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Speaker 3: Col?

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, did you say something?

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Speaker 3: I mean, Amazon?

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Speaker 1: Amazon? Is this like groundhog gas? You know, listen, it's

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Speaker 1: you know, what do you do? Uh? You know? I

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Speaker 1: would have liked the only analogy I talked using talking

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Speaker 1: about earlier. I would have liked that gap to have

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Speaker 1: been smaller, the gap between what happened at what and

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Speaker 1: what might have happened even in the loss. You know,

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Speaker 1: you don't like to see thirteen and then you know, uh,

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Speaker 1: you turn them all over and then it's thirteen again,

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Speaker 1: and then you kick the ball back and then it's twenty.

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Speaker 1: You know, I would have liked even if you lost

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Speaker 1: the game, I would have liked to have seen, you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe could you stop one time you make the tackle,

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Speaker 1: you come back and maybe kick a field goal, and

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Speaker 1: you know, you lose by ten, but you know, that

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Speaker 1: just felt like a kind of a wear down. And

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Speaker 1: the students have been on the plus end of those things,

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Speaker 1: and those are really fun to be on the plus

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Speaker 1: end of, and not much fun to be on the

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Speaker 1: on the minus end of.

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Speaker 3: No turning the page forward, Rob, Yeah, Yes, Steelers Ravens

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Speaker 3: this week.

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Speaker 1: Page the page at the Door in the Stone.

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Speaker 3: Yes, the page and the Door in the Stone illustrated

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Speaker 3: by your daughter.

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Speaker 1: Page yeah, chapter two. Yes, Okay, so go ahead, get

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Speaker 1: on to the Ravens.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're moving onto the Ravens because we have one

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Speaker 3: fewer day to do all this stuff this week, so

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Speaker 3: you got to you gotta turn the page quickly. Do

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Speaker 3: you expect any carryover from that that game where your

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Speaker 3: defense was on the field for seventy seven plays against

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Speaker 3: the Ravens this week?

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Speaker 1: So I'm glad you. I'm glad you asked that, And

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Speaker 1: I'm glad because, uh no, I don't expect her to

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Speaker 1: be that. And you know, Mike Common after the game

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Speaker 1: was asked about the you know, the loss and the

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Speaker 1: carryover in the three games, and he's like, let's let's

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Speaker 1: I think he said, that's that good that let's get

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Speaker 1: overly dramatic. Yeah, yeah, And I thought that was a

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Speaker 1: great response. And I think that's the way the team's

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Speaker 1: gonna take it. You can't do what they did against

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Speaker 1: good teams and expect to win. You know, he talked

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Speaker 1: to you, always talked about the you know, the road

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Speaker 1: gets narrow, the past gets narrow. The better the competition

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Speaker 1: you faced, the less you can get away with that

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Speaker 1: kind of thing. And they couldn't get away with it,

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Speaker 1: and uh it's a defense worn down. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: maybe is the you know, is it a short week?

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Speaker 1: It assuredly? Is that I don't. I don't think that.

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Speaker 1: I don't see that having any effect. You know, I

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Speaker 1: like the fact that he didn't rule anybody out early

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Speaker 1: in the week. You know, early last week he characterized

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Speaker 1: George Pickens is doubtful, even characterize anybody is doubtful. This week,

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Speaker 1: it is a big game for the Steelers, and I

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Speaker 1: don't expect there to be any hangover effect. And I

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Speaker 1: understand why people would think that could be an issue

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Speaker 1: because you're playing three games against top quality opponents, physical opponents,

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Speaker 1: and you're doing it in eleven days. And there's a

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Speaker 1: reason that that's not you know, the normal schedule, because

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Speaker 1: that's allow to ask of these guys and allow to

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Speaker 1: ask of their bodies. However, it is the Ravens. I

654
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: do think that they will bounce back. You know, there's

655
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Speaker 1: a reason that it's a well conditioned team. It is

656
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: because you know things like this are coming and you're

657
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: gonna be physically prepared for that. So now you have

658
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Speaker 1: another game like this. You know, if this was the

659
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Speaker 1: quick turnaround game, right, if this was Saturday's game going

660
00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: into Wednesday, maybe my answer would be, I think there's

661
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: enough time to recuperate, and there's enough at stake where

662
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to be too big of

663
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: a factor. Now, if they go on some long drives

664
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Speaker 1: early in the first half of the game, could the

665
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: defender's leg to be heavy late in the game. I

666
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: think that's possible. I don't think going in I would

667
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: expect it to have too much of an effect.

668
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean maybe I'm more a little more worried

669
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Speaker 4: about than you guys. I mean it just we have

670
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 4: mentioned that the Steeler defense was on the field a

671
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 4: little bit in this conversation. You know, not to harp

672
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 4: on that, but it is a short week. Amazon's new Stone.

673
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 3: Like subliminal stuff here. But I also think that Christmas

674
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 3: there's also pride, and there's also familiarity. You know that

675
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 3: great gift.

676
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 4: Hayward and Watt and company were embarrassed by their standards,

677
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 4: kind of like on Thursday night in Cleveland and that

678
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 4: one they had ten days to stew on it and

679
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 4: Tomlin poking at them. This one. I like that they're

680
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 4: getting back on the horse now everyone knows it wasn't great.

681
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 4: You know, get back on the horse against your biggest rival. Great,

682
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 4: give me another challenge.

683
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Speaker 1: Right right, you know, And it wasn't like I mean,

684
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Speaker 1: there were there were some moments in which the students

685
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: could have made I felt it was more like, man,

686
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: the students left some plays out there. And this is

687
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: hard to say, Matt. After they go thirteen thirteen twenty

688
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: and their drives, I still didn't feel like they got manhandled.

689
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: You know. I didn't feel like, oh my goodness, gracious.

690
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 4: There left and right and moved off the ball. Yeah, yeah,

691
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 4: I'd feel.

692
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: Run down their throat. I didn't feel that way. And

693
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: so when that if it's that, that's alarming, right, right,

694
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Speaker 1: If it's hey, you got to come up with some

695
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: tackles here. We got to get a call. Maybe we

696
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: have to have some things that are uncharacteristic cleaned up.

697
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: You know. It's like I was saying before, like we

698
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: all make mistakes in life, and you know, Dale, I

699
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: was using this when I was talking to Matt and

700
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Speaker 1: Wolfe earlier. Look, Man, uh so I know I if

701
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: I make a call and I messed something up on

702
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: my job and that, believe me, it happens. You know. Uh,

703
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: I know I made a mistake. I don't need the

704
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: mistake pointed out now. If I make the same mistake

705
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: over and over again. Then that's a problem. This is

706
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: a game in which they made some mistakes, but they

707
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: know they made mistakes. And so I don't think, you know,

708
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,719
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say I was saying, so, I wouldn't say

709
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: a word to nag Naji Here's never funles, right. I

710
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: don't want him thinking about that. I want him playing football.

711
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: And if if, now, if that's the fourth pitch he

712
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: dropped this year, sure I'm gonna pull them aside and say,

713
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: hey man, we gotta do something different. It never happens

714
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: with Naji here, So you know, I just I think,

715
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: And I'm using that one because it's an obvious example.

716
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: You know, they missed the open season open field tackles missed.

717
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: Those guys are pretty good too, But still the Steelers

718
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: get guys in the ground. They're more often than not.

719
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: I just would I would just say, look, h you know,

720
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: let's get back on the horse. We lost. Don't forget

721
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: about it. Use it for motivation if you'd like, but

722
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: let's not dwell on it.

723
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 3: That's the big thing. I mean, it's how do you

724
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 3: how do you rebound from something like this? You can

725
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 3: can go one of two ways, and just knowing the

726
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 3: character of this team. I expect them to rebound and

727
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 3: I expect you to get the the You may not

728
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 3: win the game in Baltimore.

729
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, tough game.

730
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 3: It's given me a tough game. You've beaten them eight

731
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 3: out of nine times. You know, just the numbers of

732
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 3: it all show that when you play somebody a tenth

733
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 3: time and they're both good football teams, and you know,

734
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 3: that's just the way it goes. But I do expect

735
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 3: a better game. I don't expect to see that kind

736
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 3: of thing happen again. I don't expect the Ravens to

737
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 3: go out there and Lamar throws five touchdown passes and

738
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 3: they're all, you know, got hats on it early in

739
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,919
Speaker 3: the third quarter celebrating, you know, beating the Steelers. That's

740
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 3: not going to.

741
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: Happen, right, I don't think it's going to happen. And again,

742
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: you know, if you told me, uh, if you just

743
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: told me about those three drives in the second half, right,

744
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: if you just said, hey, that's the way the game went,

745
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: I'd have been like, whoa man? Were they were? They

746
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: just outclassed in that game. But like I go back to,

747
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: I didn't feel like they were outclass. Did they lose? Yeah,

748
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: they lost. Did they do you know again? Did they

749
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: do some things that were uncharacteristic in that loss?

750
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 4: Yes?

751
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: Did Philadelphia have something to do with it? George Shure

752
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: are good players, man, I mean you know, look, uh,

753
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: you know we talk all the time. Hey, throw it

754
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: short and run long, right, Like you expect George Pickens

755
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,720
Speaker 1: to break the tackle and make a play. You expect

756
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: Najee Harris if he has a full set of heam

757
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: instead of ahead of steam going you know, on a

758
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: and he's running down the sideline and he hit a

759
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: yard before the sticks, so he's gonna pick up the

760
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 1: first down. Well, if it's true for the Steelers players,

761
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: it's true for those guys. I mean, you know a

762
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: j Browns at three time Pro bowler, Demonte Smith is

763
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: a first round pick. Say Kwan Barkley, you know, has

764
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: already set the Eagles single season rushing record. These jail

765
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 1: and hurts, these guys are going to make their play.

766
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 3: Layne Johnson's going to the Hall of Fame like these are. Yeah,

767
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 3: this is a good football team. Yeah, that's right.

768
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: And I don't feel like again if you told me

769
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: that that that was the trend, that's what happened. I

770
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: would have been like, oh wow, but I didn't. I

771
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: don't feel that way. I don't feel that that's what

772
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 1: happened in that game. And so now if if if

773
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: you see a similar outcome against Baltimore, and then you

774
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: see a similar outcome against Kansas City, and then you

775
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: see a similar outcome against Cincinnati, well then you know,

776
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: now you've got a trend. One game is.

777
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 3: Not a trend, absolutely, absolutely real quick.

778
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 4: Sorry not to bring not to bring the mood down,

779
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 4: but a concern I have is we know this team's

780
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 4: gonna run the ball a lot. I mean, that's their identity,

781
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 4: which that's head coach, the offensive coordinator, is the quarterback

782
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 4: of the stage of this of his career. But three

783
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 4: nine or four to zero for the season is a

784
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 4: lot different than four three or four to four a pop.

785
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 4: I mean, like, I think they have to get this

786
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 4: running game one notch better and then all of a

787
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 4: sudden it's second and five not second and seven. You know,

788
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 4: like it would have such a ripple effect. And it's

789
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 4: been a issue slash problem for the majority of the year.

790
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you know, they have been able to and

791
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: I don't know where they rank, Matt, and you would

792
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: know this more than I. On negative plays and you know,

793
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: rushes of less than two or three yards. You know,

794
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 1: the problem I thought in this game was in those

795
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: first drives you're getting zero yards, one yard, one yard,

796
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 1: zero yards. I think they got like six or something,

797
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: but that was after a penalty. You know, zero yard,

798
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 1: one yards, and you're looking at third and eight third, Nate,

799
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: third and eighteen. I don't feel like that's been the case.

800
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, I understand what you're saying, but I

801
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: feel like they've at least been able to get into

802
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: third and four or third and three, which is a

803
00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 1: lot different than third and eight. You know, that's a

804
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: little more. That's that's Frankly, that's a little anecdotal for me.

805
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: I don't know the exact numbers. I do know what

806
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: you're saying. As far as running the ball. Now, I'll

807
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: also say this, and and this is this one is

808
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: hard to quantify. The students have been a much better

809
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,959
Speaker 1: second half team than a first half team. So are

810
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: the is the fact that you're running the ball a

811
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: lot early part of the reason that you're more successful

812
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: late in the game, Right, Yeah, when I look at

813
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 1: what happened with the students. I think that that part

814
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: of the problem with the defense was you went three

815
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: and ounce. Well, I think part of a problem for

816
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: defense can be when a team is wearing at you

817
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: and running at you, and now suddenly it opens things up. Now,

818
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: I mean, are they the Eagles? And I think this

819
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 1: is a great comedy. We could spend the whole show

820
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: talking about this. But you know, I think the the

821
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: Eagles came out and I think the students expected him

822
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: to run. They've been more of a second half running team.

823
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: But they came out and threw the ball more. They

824
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: ran the ball with some effective in the second half.

825
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: They didn't follow their usual script, seemed to me. So

826
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: is that something that perhaps the students have to think

827
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: about doing. I don't know, Or do you just say, look,

828
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: it's been effective. I mean, just look at the proof. Okay,

829
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: three point nine yards per carry. Okay, we're gonna live

830
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: with that because we're gonna run it a lot and

831
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna dominate you in the second half. So I

832
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: think it's a great question, Matt, and it's it's uh,

833
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know the answer to it, and

834
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I think that's a hard question.

835
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,919
Speaker 4: It might be more of an offseason, right, yeah.

836
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, And even even so, you would have to I

837
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: think you have to really part some numbers to figure out.

838
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: And I understand what you're saying, like, yes, you would.

839
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: You know, if you're running the ball, you know, the

840
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: second most times, but you're eighth in yards because you're

841
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: when were they twenty ninth or something like that in

842
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: yards per carry?

843
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 4: Yeah?

844
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 1: Uh, that certainly down the list. That's not the that's

845
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: not the formula you want. Clearly you'd like to be

846
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: more effective with it. Has that been been a factor

847
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: in their second half scoring? You know? That might be

848
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: one of those things that you can parse up all

849
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: the numbers you want and maybe just comes down to opinion,

850
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: right I think I think maybe it does. So somebody

851
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: else might say, well, if you're more effective, it wouldn't.

852
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,240
Speaker 1: So it's a great question. I mean, we could spend

853
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: hours talking about just that question you brought up.

854
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 3: Man.

855
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 1: I think it's a great question.

856
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 4: Kengar.

857
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 3: We got to let you go. We appreciate you dropping

858
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Speaker 3: by here, and we'll see you well later this week

859
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 3: when we do the Matchup show. Check that out on

860
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 3: the Steelers YouTube channel and on Steelers dot com. And

861
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 3: you can also check out the Door in the Stone

862
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Speaker 3: Amazon Christmas. All that good stuff, all that good stuff.

863
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Speaker 3: Thank you, You're very welcome, rough very much. That is

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865
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Speaker 3: is the Matt Williamson and this is the drive on

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Speaker 3: the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I will be back

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Speaker 3: with more right after this.

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Speaker 1: At least.

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Speaker 2: He's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

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Speaker 2: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly. He is

873
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 3: the Matt Williamson and Matt would kind of buried the

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Speaker 3: lead on everything from yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Oh, Steelers are in the playoffs. Yeah, it's not so bad.

876
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 3: You clinched the playoff spot because, as expected, the Dolphins

877
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 3: and the Colts both lost on the road. So they

878
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Speaker 3: are now post six and eight and the Steelers are

879
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 3: NOWT ten and four.

880
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 4: And you're in.

881
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 3: You're in.

882
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's great. I mean, all this upcoming stuff is wonderful.

883
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 4: Ravens Week, Christmas with the Chiefs, you know, end with

884
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Speaker 4: the Bengals, the whole key is getting in the dance

885
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Speaker 4: and you're in. Yeah, you know.

886
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Speaker 3: I mean, you don't have to wait for any help

887
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Speaker 3: in week eighteen, just you're in.

888
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Speaker 4: I mean how much how many years in recent memory

889
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 4: has it been certainly this early, let alone man, Jacksonville

890
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 4: not to tie.

891
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 3: And this looking a tie breakers.

892
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 4: Don't have to worry about anything.

893
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Speaker 1: You're in.

894
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 4: And I firmly believe the Ravens and Steelers will be

895
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 4: the three and five seeds in some way, shape or form,

896
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Speaker 4: And the Steelers have the edge up of being the

897
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Speaker 4: three as it stands.

898
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 3: As it stands today, And even if if they would

899
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Speaker 3: happen to lose this game to Baltimore, they still win

900
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Speaker 3: the division if they've then beat Kansas City and Cincinnati.

901
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 4: I mean, you control your own control, your own fate,

902
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 4: and so.

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Speaker 3: That's all you can ask for at this time of year.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 4: I hope next Monday we're not sitting here going man,

906
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 4: that was a rough loss in Baltimore. But if so,

907
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 4: you can still win the next two, yeah, at home,

908
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 4: and then you're hosting a playoff game Wildcard weekend against

909
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 4: Chargers Denver. Somebody like that. Like your chances, I mean,

910
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 4: there's still you put a lot of money in the bank.

911
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 3: Yes, and that's you know, and you've beaten the You've

912
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 3: beaten the Broncos, You've beating the Chargers, You've beating the Ravens.

913
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Speaker 3: You know this is not.

914
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 4: Those are all winnable games, you know, right, Or if

915
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 4: you end up the five seed and go to Houston, Okay,

916
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Speaker 4: we'd probably pick the Steelers right now. You know, you're

917
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 4: still in very good shape. You got to globally think

918
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Speaker 4: this thing a little.

919
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 3: Bit absolutely, And if you know, if you do happen

920
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Speaker 3: to beat the Chiefs and I you know, I know

921
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Speaker 3: it's here in a rematch, would likely be out there.

922
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Speaker 4: My homes plays. I don't know what's going on with them,

923
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 4: right I mean, there's a.

924
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 3: Lot of high ankle spring. Who knows what happens.

925
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 4: The volatility in the league right now? Yeah, what's going

926
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Speaker 4: with Detroit Kansas City?

927
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Speaker 3: And that's so that's the big thing. That you came

928
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Speaker 3: out of that game yesterday with no major injuries.

929
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Speaker 4: Sure sounds like you're gonna be healthier for next game

930
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 4: than you were for this game. Yeah, You'll take that.

931
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Speaker 3: Christmas timish because a lot of times when you when

932
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Speaker 3: you get it's not always the team, the best team

933
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Speaker 3: that wins the super Bowl, it gets to the Super Bowl.

934
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Speaker 3: It's a but who stayed the most healthy, who got

935
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Speaker 3: hot at the right time. Now you can look at

936
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Speaker 3: Buffalo right now and say what Buffalo is red hot?

937
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Speaker 3: But you know, two weeks ago, three weeks ago, Detroit

938
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Speaker 3: was that team.

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Speaker 4: I was just saying, I kind of feel bad for

940
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Speaker 4: the Lions. You know, like it's they're doing everything right.

941
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Speaker 3: They just started the stacked and at some point it

942
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Speaker 3: just becomes too too much.

943
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you lose Montgomery. You know, like even

944
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Speaker 4: I didn't study Bills Lions. I mean, I'll dig into

945
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Speaker 4: it more throughout the week, but the path to beating

946
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Speaker 4: the Bills is keep him a nickel, get your big

947
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Speaker 4: back rolling. Then he gets turned early in the game,

948
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Speaker 4: and then your defense loses two more guys when it

949
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Speaker 4: was already on thin ice. You know, like that's happened

950
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Speaker 4: to so many teams in this league where the attrition

951
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Speaker 4: of the league.

952
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Speaker 3: Steelers people want to talk about Mike Mike Tomlins only

953
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 3: won three playoff games since all times you go limping

954
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 3: into the playoffs, Yeah, look at who they didn't have

955
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 3: for most of those playoff games. You know, Abs out

956
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 3: for this game. Le'Veon Bell is out for that game.

957
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 3: Ben Roethlisberger can't even raise his arm up in the

958
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 3: right right. These are things that These are actual things

959
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 3: that happen. Cam Hayward was out, you know when they.

960
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 4: Will not have them watch Yeah right, I mean yeah,

961
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 4: these are the all time.

962
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Speaker 3: Great, legitimate things that happened. And well that's just an excuse.

963
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 3: At some point, you can't afford not to have your

964
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Speaker 3: best players on the field in the postseason.

965
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Speaker 4: That's just just I mean, critical big games Eagles, Ravens, Chiefs,

966
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Speaker 4: you know, postseason. No, none of these are going to

967
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,760
Speaker 4: be pushovers in either direction or any of these teams.

968
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Speaker 4: And if you're a little short, it's going to be

969
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 4: awful tough, right, So, so at least you have that

970
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Speaker 4: going for you as you enter this Ravens.

971
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Speaker 3: And that's why to me, people talking about resting people

972
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 3: for this game, because oh, you just play and you'll

973
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 3: play for the last two games. No, no, you you

974
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 3: play to win this game. Then you can rest people,

975
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 3: right right, And you also want to give yourself the

976
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 3: most paths to get to where you want to go.

977
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, this is the most important game.

978
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Speaker 3: So if you win this one, the last two don't

979
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Speaker 3: really mean anything other than seeding.

980
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 4: Oh okay, I think he meant the last two that

981
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Speaker 4: just happened. Now, the one that just happened doesn't mean much.

982
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Speaker 3: For all your games, of your four remaining games, that

983
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 3: was the one that meant the least.

984
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Speaker 4: The one that meant the least. And I'm not implying

985
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 4: that I am implying that you're not.

986
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 3: You're just saying it.

987
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 4: If that was the Super Bowl, maybe Pickens plays, maybe

988
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 4: Elliott plays Ogan Joby. I mean, all of a sudden,

989
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 4: we're not super worried about him, but forty eight hours

990
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 4: ago we were. That's smart to me, though. That's not

991
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 4: punting the game in Philly away. It's like, our goal

992
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 4: is one thing is to win the Super Bowl. What's

993
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 4: to choose your own adventure path? That makes that the

994
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 4: most the least resistance. What beating the Ravens.

995
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 3: Beating the Ravens, Yeah, a team that you've beaten eight

996
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 3: of the last nine times that you've played.

997
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:52,919
Speaker 4: Them, and you know like the back of your hand,

998
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 4: and you've won. Less day to prepare. But I don't

999
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 4: need that much time to prepare.

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Speaker 3: For you, you know, You've been la Mar Jackson's kryptonite

1001
00:46:59,000 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 3: his entire career.

1002
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 4: I need health is what I need, you know, to

1003
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Speaker 4: give me the best chance to win that game so

1004
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 4: I can host playoff game.

1005
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 3: Like you think hardballs, like not driving Lamar. You've what's

1006
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:10,919
Speaker 3: going on with the Steeler thing? He gets asked about

1007
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 3: it every time they played the Steelers.

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Speaker 4: That being said, I mean, it's super early in the

1009
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 4: week to start talking Ravens. But they're in a good

1010
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 4: shot shape too. I mean, having a really late bye

1011
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 4: is a wonderful thing for them, and then and then

1012
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 4: by a preseason game.

1013
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 3: That's the one area if you look at the league

1014
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 3: kind of all three all four of these teams that

1015
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 3: have to play Saturday and then play on Christmas Day,

1016
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 3: they're all in the same boat with that.

1017
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,720
Speaker 4: They are, I mean terms, they're all three and eleven.

1018
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 3: But if you look at the Ravens had a buy

1019
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 3: hot yeah, and so did Houston, and the Ravens then

1020
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Speaker 3: got to go to play a Giants team that's not

1021
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 3: real interested in winning at this point.

1022
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Speaker 4: No, they're not.

1023
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Speaker 3: Houston was at home, now Kansas City was on the

1024
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Speaker 3: road at Cleveland. They didn't know that Cleveland was going

1025
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Speaker 3: to be as bad as Cleveland is.

1026
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Speaker 4: Sure, but but no, the Ravens had The Ravens had

1027
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 4: the easiest walking into this. Yeah, And whether the schedule

1028
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 4: makers tried to or not, that's just the facts. I mean,

1029
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 4: where the Giants are at now is a preseason game, yeah,

1030
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Speaker 4: you know, but no, so if we were doing Ravens

1031
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Speaker 4: radio right now.

1032
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Speaker 3: Everybody had had on you know, it was like a

1033
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 3: preseason game for them.

1034
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. So they're they're not too beat up and

1035
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 4: they're hosting the Steelers.

1036
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Speaker 3: But it hasn't mattered over the years because when these

1037
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 3: two teams get together, it's going to be a close game.

1038
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 3: It's going to be a close game. It is absolutely

1039
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 3: so we're going to get to another break that's going

1040
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Speaker 3: to do it for our number one of the drive

1041
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Speaker 3: here on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt and I will

1042
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Speaker 3: be back with our number two right after this