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Speaker 1: Oh, Steve Taper, Touchdown, touchdown to down time. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live Steve Tasker, and I'm joined once again

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Speaker 1: today by my good buddy, Joe Bascallia. Joe, how's it

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Speaker 1: going you have? You know you got big plans for

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Speaker 1: the weekend? We got three more hours the weekend, slams

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Speaker 1: us in the face. Well, I mean, still got some

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Speaker 1: more work to do for the day, finishing off that

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Speaker 1: that top twenty countdown I'm doing. But other than that,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna be good. See some friends, see

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Speaker 1: some family. You and I did that little interview about

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Speaker 1: about Jim. Yeahly, and you gotta edit that out and

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Speaker 1: make sure that make me look good. Right this job,

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Speaker 1: I am exporting the beers right when I come in

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Speaker 1: on a close up, it's not gonna look right. I'm

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Speaker 1: still not used to myself looking in the mirror and

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Speaker 1: seeing myself with it, the Alaskan beard that I have. Still,

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Speaker 1: you fill, you're gonna rocket for I'm gonna rocket for

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Speaker 1: a while. I'm not done with it yet. I think

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Speaker 1: it's a summertime I can get away with it. But

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Speaker 1: camera all the time. Yeah, probably for the best. Looking

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Speaker 1: like I'm fifty six doesn't really cut it, So Steve,

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Speaker 1: feel feel hard on yourself. Feeling sixty seven's not bad,

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Speaker 1: but looking fifty six as stinks. But yeah, that's the

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Speaker 1: way it goes. Yeah, but it's been good. It's good

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Speaker 1: having you. Yeah, the radio thing, right, you cut your

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Speaker 1: teeth doing radio? Sure did? I mean I was with

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Speaker 1: interned with GR, grew up in the industry, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's fun to be back. It's been fun to

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Speaker 1: glad you're here. We got a good show today to

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Speaker 1: finish out the week. Dan Orlovsky, former NFL quarterback, played

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Speaker 1: for the Lions and others. He's coming on at twelve thirty.

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Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander's gonna join us at one. Our good friend

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Speaker 1: he's gonna skype in with us. He's out in Arizona

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Speaker 1: kind of hanging out out there. And then we're also

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Speaker 1: been the Alabama radio analyst for their broadcasts and stuff,

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Speaker 1: so he's gonna join us as well. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about some stories that have been floating around a little

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Speaker 1: bit about the Bills, a couple of things out about

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Speaker 1: the entire NFL where now we're getting all these lists

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Speaker 1: coming out, and they had one coming out that we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about the most underrated under the radar acquisition

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Speaker 1: by every NFL team. Will give you an idea of

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Speaker 1: what they said about the Buffalo Bills. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: a little bit about, of course, what do we learn

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Speaker 1: today when we hear from all our friends from out

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Speaker 1: and out and about and an NFL true and false.

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Speaker 1: We're also going to talk a little bit about Levi Wallace,

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Speaker 1: a rookie free agent from Alabama. Might ask Phil Savage

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Speaker 1: got a lot to do today and it's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 1: We've got a couple of three people coming on with

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Speaker 1: be fun to talk to those guys. Yeah, I'm interest

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Speaker 1: based with him for a while. I'm definitely interested to

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Speaker 1: as we've been pointing out this whole time, it's one

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Speaker 1: And you know he does a great job with all

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Speaker 1: everything kind of happens with him. Yeah, it's interesting too

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Speaker 1: because of Orlovsky and all those quarterback whenever you talk

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Speaker 1: counterintuitive for all of us outside of that little little

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Speaker 1: just want to know what the conclusion of this whole

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Speaker 1: The question is this, what would be your ideal buffalo

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Speaker 1: tweet us. We want to know what you think. What's

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Speaker 1: the interior of the line with Incognito and Wood being out.

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Speaker 1: But I think last year's strength obviously was the defense.

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Speaker 1: So it was just kind of an interesting thought to

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Speaker 1: me that the team's strength has stayed the same. We've

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Speaker 1: improved it. If Vante Davis can play well, we added

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Speaker 1: most lately and a couple and Tim Murphy. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the front seven should be much better. Yeah. So it's just,

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, I think that the odds are probably

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Speaker 1: the same and last year we were having the same discussion.

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Speaker 1: I think that Buffalo is going to take a while

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Speaker 1: to adjust to the Bills having a chance at the

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Speaker 1: playoffs because it had been so long since, you know,

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Speaker 1: since the last year, it had been seventeen years. So

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, the team probably has about the same

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Speaker 1: shot as they did last year, but the offense is

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Speaker 1: gonna look very different. I got a new coordinator in there.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, I just wanted to know what your guys

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Speaker 1: thoughts were on that, because it just it seems to

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Speaker 1: me like not a lot has changed, even though literally

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Speaker 1: it has changed, the odds haven't varied in my mind. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: here's the thing. Yeah, I thanks for the call, and

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Speaker 1: I get where you're saying you're coming from. You're trying

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Speaker 1: to give an entire whole picture about the team and

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Speaker 1: what the quarterback, how the new quarterback situation fits in,

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Speaker 1: and how it's going to change I'll tell you this,

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Speaker 1: though you said, you know, the strength of the team

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Speaker 1: last year was their defense. The strength of their team

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Speaker 1: last year was their secondary. Their front seven could not

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Speaker 1: rush the passer. They were in the bottom They were

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Speaker 1: in the bottom six or seven in the league. Bottom

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Speaker 1: six or seven in league is stopping the run, and

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Speaker 1: they were thirtieth in pass rush in the number of sacks.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they got their defensive front seven struggled last year.

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Speaker 1: They did not play well. That's why they brought in

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Speaker 1: Trent Murphy. That's why they brought in Star Lotulele. That's

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Speaker 1: why they drafted Harrison Phillips. They needed some help upfront

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Speaker 1: in the pass rush, and they needed some help in

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Speaker 1: the run stuffing, and that's why they drafted Tremaine Edmonds.

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Speaker 1: They did a lot to improve their front seven because

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Speaker 1: it really hurt them last year. Their secondary played outstandingly.

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Speaker 1: They got a ton of turnovers, a ton of interceptions,

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Speaker 1: and that was really the engine that drove them to

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Speaker 1: their fast start and got them out to five and

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Speaker 1: four and got them to a spot where, listening, if

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Speaker 1: we want to stay in the playoff race, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to do something on offense, which is what prompted

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Speaker 1: the move from Tyrod Taylor to Nathan Peterman. They were

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Speaker 1: going to roll the dice and see if they could

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Speaker 1: catch lightning in a bottle, and that blew up in

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Speaker 1: their face. But I'm Ian the caller from Rochester just said, listen,

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Speaker 1: he thinks they're kind of the same team they were

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Speaker 1: last year, same kind of odds, same kind of spot

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Speaker 1: where they're in. They look like a little bit away

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Speaker 1: from being able to compete from the playoffs. They got

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Speaker 1: a little lucky last year and backed into it when

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Speaker 1: Baltimore faltered Cincinnati won that game, and then there were

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Speaker 1: some other things along the way that kept these teams

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Speaker 1: from running away and getting the last wildcard spot. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and also, I mean it was something that's fleeting in

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Speaker 1: the NFL for successful teams or why teams are successful

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Speaker 1: successful in certain years. Turnovers. Turnovers are quite random if

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Speaker 1: you if you think about it, I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: about think about some of the interceptions last year, one

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Speaker 1: that went off aj Green's gut and into the hands

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Speaker 1: of Jordan Ployer, Like there's just a bunch of there's

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Speaker 1: just a bunch of examples throughout the league of where

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Speaker 1: these game changing plays that are had are because of

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Speaker 1: one random finger getting on the ball or a right

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Speaker 1: and and but it's putting yourself in those positions to

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Speaker 1: get those But the defense, the defense is going to

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Speaker 1: be a lot better. I think that is evident. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they you made a great point. The run defense couldn't

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Speaker 1: stop anything up the middle last year, and teams picked

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Speaker 1: on that as as the season went on, and when

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Speaker 1: they went on that losing streak, that was the reason

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Speaker 1: why it was happening, because they couldn't stop anybody up

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Speaker 1: the middle. But the offense, which is which is why

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Speaker 1: fans that are kind of expecting maybe some lightning in

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Speaker 1: a bottle here for the for the offense and for

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Speaker 1: the playoff chase to be on again this year. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to say this lightly. Tyrod Taylor is a

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Speaker 1: solid enough player where he's not going to make mistakes

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Speaker 1: and he's not going to put your team in a

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Speaker 1: spot to lose the game. The Bills are going to

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Speaker 1: turn the ball over more this year because Tyrod Taylor

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Speaker 1: is not there. It's a simple matter of fact. And

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Speaker 1: that's where they kind of have to learn who they

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Speaker 1: are on offense with the brand new quarterback. And that's

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Speaker 1: why I think we're going to see a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a step back this year. What would be your

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Speaker 1: ideal Buffalo Bills quarterback scenario when training camp ends, we're

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Speaker 1: asking you our listeners for that eight h three oh

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Speaker 1: five fifty or one eight eight five fifty two five fifty,

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Speaker 1: or you can tweet at us, and a lot of

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Speaker 1: people have been given us a lot of feedback. We

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Speaker 1: always put our Twitter question out about eleven thirty. We

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Speaker 1: come on the air at noon and we start getting

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Speaker 1: feedback right away from the Buffalo Bros. Dream scenarios. Number one,

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Speaker 1: Alan wins the job by week two or number two,

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Speaker 1: trade Aj for picks or a third player, and keep

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Speaker 1: Peterman as the number two. So that's his ideal scenario.

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Speaker 1: From number one Bills fan, the ideal quarterback scenario is

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Speaker 1: that Alan proves his many critics wrong, shows everyone why

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Speaker 1: Brandon Bean had so much faith in him to draft

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Speaker 1: a number seventh. Overall, he starts from day one and

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Speaker 1: he turns out to be that good Go Bills. That's

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Speaker 1: his ideal, and I think a lot of people share

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Speaker 1: that one. And then from Wandering Jack, ideally, Alan shows

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Speaker 1: he's ready when and wins the job with great play

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Speaker 1: and the Alan era begins on nine to nine, which

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Speaker 1: is opening day against in Baltimore. But that's a pipe dream.

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Speaker 1: The smart money says AJ mccar that Alan will need

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Speaker 1: time to learn and they won't rush him, and if

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Speaker 1: he can win the gig, I hope McCarron can give

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Speaker 1: us competent quarterback playing eighteen and we'll throw the ball

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Speaker 1: better than they did last year. That's that's just a

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Speaker 1: couple of people getting feedback, and that's kind of where

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Speaker 1: we're all sitting today. We're kind of we have these

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Speaker 1: scenarios in our head where gosh, wouldn't it be great

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Speaker 1: if Alan just exploded on Well, that's what they would

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Speaker 1: hope more than anything, but a lot of it depends

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Speaker 1: on how he adapts to life in camp as a rookie,

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Speaker 1: life to preseason as a rookie. And that's why I'm

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Speaker 1: interested to see what Dani Rolovsky has to say. Well,

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Speaker 1: next one, we talked to him. Yeah, Dan Rolovski, former quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He's been on the show before. We've asked him about

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Speaker 1: all these quarterbacks coming up in the draft, and it

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Speaker 1: was interesting to hear what he said. You can call

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Speaker 1: us at eight oh three five fifty. But I think

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Speaker 1: one of the things that's interesting about this, and the

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Speaker 1: caller just brought it up. You know, that's a different team.

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Speaker 1: And I think one of the philosophy, the philosophy that's

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Speaker 1: coming out in this in this coaching staff and Brandon

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Speaker 1: being a Sean McDermott, they are not afraid to trade

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Speaker 1: pieces out, bring new players in as starters every year,

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Speaker 1: rebuild it really, start from scratch with the team that

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Speaker 1: you've got and build it every year. They had a

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Speaker 1: lot of guy last year. Of course, it was their

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Speaker 1: first year on the job, and Brandon Bean was only

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Speaker 1: on the job a few months before the season began,

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Speaker 1: made a bunch of trades right off the bat, got

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Speaker 1: rid of some and we've talked about it at nausea

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Speaker 1: and when Marcel Darius and Sammy Watkins and all these guys,

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Speaker 1: Ron Darby, Reggie Ragland, all these guys are gone, and

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Speaker 1: they were very They were quality, talented players, and the

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Speaker 1: team played better without them, more consistently without them, and

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Speaker 1: got the playoffs without them. They're gonna do it again

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Speaker 1: this year. Their philosophy is to start from scratch, take

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Speaker 1: whatever they've got on this team and put it together

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Speaker 1: this I think this defense is going to be markedly

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Speaker 1: different than it was a year ago. Very I think

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be able to lean on their front seven

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Speaker 1: a little bit more. They're gonna be more guys, They're

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Speaker 1: gonna be more third and long situations than there were

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Speaker 1: a year ago. I think the defense is gonna be

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Speaker 1: markedly different. Forget what the offense is gonna show. With

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Speaker 1: a couple of new offensive linemen, well one new offensive

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Speaker 1: lineman and and and new quarterback play, I think the

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Speaker 1: defense is going to be completely different. This team is

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Speaker 1: going to look different as a result. If if the defense,

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Speaker 1: if the Bills are in the playoffs again, I think

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Speaker 1: it's because the Bills have a top five defensive unit.

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Speaker 1: That's That's how much I think they have to kind

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Speaker 1: of overcompensate for the offense this year, because I think

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Speaker 1: the offense is going to take a pretty substantial step back.

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Speaker 1: So but again, it all lends itself to the quarterback position,

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Speaker 1: and I think I think the defense has the potential

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Speaker 1: to do that. But a lot of this is just

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Speaker 1: projection and on paper, and a lot of these guys

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Speaker 1: have to come through and do it. Trent Murphy didn't

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Speaker 1: play last year. He's going to be dependent on to

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Speaker 1: be a big guy for them. Tremaine Edmonds is twenty

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Speaker 1: years old and a starting rookie, so you have to

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Speaker 1: see some wiggle room there, and then you know, the

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Speaker 1: quarterback position has to be able to show some life too.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we're just getting started. Joe Biscalius Steve Tasker

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Speaker 1: on One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive. This is

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back from One Vill's Live. Steve

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Speaker 1: task along with Job Scallia, we are pleased to be

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Speaker 1: joined now. My former NFL quarterback with Detroit, Houston, Indianapolis

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Speaker 1: and Tampa Bay played twelve seasons of the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: He's a contributor to the athletic and the NFL network.

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Speaker 1: He's going to be on the broadcast team for the

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Speaker 1: NFL Flag Football League coming up this offseason. Dan Orlovsky, Dan,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing man? Thanks for coming on. I'm

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Speaker 1: doing well. Steve, how are you doing man? Doing good? Hey?

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Speaker 1: Congratulations nice PGA travelers pro am. I saw you in

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Speaker 1: last week. How did that go for you? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I played in it last year. It was a ton

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Speaker 1: of fun. I actually played with Hunter Mayhan and then

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Speaker 1: this year I got the chance to play with George

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Speaker 1: Lopez and Boomersion and my pro was Ken Duke. So

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Speaker 1: a blast. I mean, it's an incredible, incredible event. Travers,

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Speaker 1: there's a great job. Ken Duke kids seventeen and eighteen green.

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Speaker 1: So he struggled. I did not. I haven't eighteen greens.

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Speaker 1: But it was a really good time. So it was

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Speaker 1: a Blastophe a part of man. Awesome man, we'll talk

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Speaker 1: to I want to hear you about I want to

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Speaker 1: hear about this flag football league that you're gonna be broadcasting.

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Speaker 1: What what? What have you been told about? How's it

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Speaker 1: gonna look when you get it on TV? Were they

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Speaker 1: going to play these games? Yeah? So all good questions.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually in Pittsburgh right now. Opening weekend is here

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Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, and then it's this weekend is just going

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Speaker 1: to be what is known as the America's Bracket, So

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Speaker 1: it's just kind of everyday people. They eight teams. These

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Speaker 1: guys kind of play flags football as part of their

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Speaker 1: life in a way. And some of these teams are

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Speaker 1: made up of a bunch of guys that are ex

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Speaker 1: college athletes and had some success playing at Texas or

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Speaker 1: a U TAP or some bigger schools. And then there's

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Speaker 1: some guys that didn't even play high school football and

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Speaker 1: they just they were the guys that weren't big enough

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Speaker 1: for for some reason, it didn't work out. And so

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00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: but they're very, very equipped and skills for this league.

643
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing is it's a football league,

644
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: you know, and they're just using flags as the way

645
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: to end the play and instead of using it as tackle.

646
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of similarity. I mean, four downs

647
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: to get a first down, one hundred yard fields, the

648
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: timing they have, you know, they have this thing called

649
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: the gold clock where there's a lot of science behind it,

650
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: where a quarterback, once the ball is snapps, has four

651
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: seconds to let go of the football and after two

652
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: seconds somebody can rush and it's not considered a blitz

653
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: because in the NFL, on average, a pass is thrown

654
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: in a dropback situation in two point seven seconds. And

655
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: so that's kind of where they got this gold clocks

656
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: concept from. So there's a lot of similarity. It is

657
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: a very much so a flag football league. And then

658
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: next weekend we'll go to Atlanta and we'll bring in

659
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: the pros where there's four teams that are made up

660
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: of a bunch of pro x pro athletes, mostly football

661
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: guys but are called the Hoop guys and Olympic gold

662
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: Medalist track guys and so and then it'll kind of

663
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: morph over the next couple of weeks in Indian Houston

664
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: and then Houston, you'll have a winner of the America's

665
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: Bracket first, the winner of the Pro's Bracket going for

666
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: a million bucks. So it's gonna be really really fun

667
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: fast for people to watch two thirty minute halves going clock.

668
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: It'll be a blast to be a part of. Yeah.

669
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: And then and one of the things about it that

670
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: some people don't know, it's a real subculture that's that's

671
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: you know, not unknown around around the country. I mean

672
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: there's a lot of these leagues around the guys take

673
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: it really serious like their hobby. Oh absolutely. I mean

674
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: some of these some of these teams have been doing

675
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: this for fifteen twenty years together, and they travel all

676
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: across the country and could play in these tournaments, and

677
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: they've had to qualify. These eight teams that are part

678
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: of this America's Bracket has had to qualify over you know,

679
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: hundreds of entries and thousands of players and earn their

680
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: way into this spot. And it's a big deal. This

681
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: This is not recess. This is not just a group

682
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: of twelve guys that got together and just start running

683
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: around the field and you know, just killing time. This

684
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: is very much so in the fabric of their life.

685
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: They take it very seriously and I'm telling you, Steve,

686
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: these guys are skilled it. It's there's some uniqueness to

687
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: this league that is going to afford the guys into

688
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: America's bracket, the everyday guy that is going to afford

689
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: then the opportunity to go out and really shine. Because

690
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: here's the thing. A lot of these guys were part

691
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: of the grouping of not good enough, and that's not

692
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: a bad thing. They just weren't good enough to go

693
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: to play big time college football or get a spot

694
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: in the NFL. But there's a place for him somewhere.

695
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: There's a place for them to go have fun, show

696
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: up their skill set and their personalities and love football

697
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: and be a part of it playing it competitively. And

698
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: I think that's the cool part of this league. Yeah,

699
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: we're talking with Dan Orlovski, a contributor to the Athletic

700
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: and the NFL network. I was just going to ask

701
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: you if if looking around the football in the National

702
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: Football League, are you what's your You played quarterback, You've

703
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: been in the room with a lot of guys. You

704
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: played on four teams, so you've been setting in quarterback

705
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: rooms with a bunch of different quarterbacks. How would you

706
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: handle Jamis Winston down in Tampa Bay if you're Ryan

707
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick or if you're that quarterback coach, how do you

708
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: think that's going to come down in Tampa Bay with

709
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston being suspended for three games to start the season. Yeah,

710
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 1: you know, I've got just being honest, I've got real

711
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: concerns about it because when a guy here's as players

712
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: in the NFL, you get labeled just by your ability.

713
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 1: You know, Oh, he's a guy who can't hold on

714
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: to the football and that carries you and that essentially

715
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: ends your career. He's a guy who can't stop throwing interceptions,

716
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: or he gets beat in man coverage. You get that's

717
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: when you repetitively do that, you get figured out. Okay,

718
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: that's who you are. Well, it's the same off the field,

719
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: you repetitively are repetitively are making these mistakes these conscious

720
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: choices that you continuously show that you're incapable of making. Steve,

721
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, playing in the NFL's a privilege.

722
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: You've got to make different choices than everybody else, Whether

723
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: you like that or not, once you accept that role,

724
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: you've got to make different choices. And so I was

725
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: down there when the Bucks had Josh Freeman, and I

726
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 1: shared that room with him, and he was as talented

727
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: as as you want at the position, and he had

728
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: some young success and then the off the field stuff

729
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: started to slowly happen and you'd go, well, that's weird,

730
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,720
Speaker 1: that's and then there's another event, and then there's another event,

731
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: and then and his wasn't legal. It was just off

732
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 1: the field stuff that derailed his career. And Jamis I'm

733
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: not saying that he's going down the same path, but

734
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: there's comparables. And so if I'm the Bucks, I'm having

735
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: a very real conversation if he's part of my football team,

736
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,919
Speaker 1: very real conversation about it, because if I can't if

737
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 1: I can't trust you, I mean, winning in the NFL's hard.

738
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: If I can't trust you to be part of the solution,

739
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: you're part of the problem. I can't have that at

740
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: my quarterback position. So you know, Fitz is in a

741
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: tough spot to be down there and trying to handle

742
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: it all. Fortunately for Fits, he's been through a lot,

743
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: He's experienced a lot in his NFL career. This is

744
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: just another day for him. But front office wise, and

745
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 1: management wise, and dirt cutter wise, I'm having very real

746
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: conversations if if we're moving on from Jameis Winston. Very interesting, Hey,

747
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: hey Dan, Obviously the Bills have a rookie quarterback at

748
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: play here and in Josh Allen, and you spent a

749
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: lot of time looking at all these guys, of course,

750
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: but what about from just your experience and that perspective

751
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: going into an NFL training camp for the first time

752
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: and kind of what the throws of that are. What,

753
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: how does Josh Allen get ready for that and what

754
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: and what's his biggest hurdle going to be once he

755
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 1: actually gets into the pangs of a training camp. Yeah,

756
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: I think you know from everything you hear about Josh

757
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 1: Allen and you read about him, that he's got at

758
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: least the foundation of the mental makeup to handle the

759
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: grind of an NFL training camp. Because you're going to

760
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: get so much thrown at you, and it's all gonna

761
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: come snowballing at once, and you're you know, you get

762
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: into day three, in day four and you're in taking

763
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: all this information of all these new plays, and then

764
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: you've got to I mean, you would literally having a

765
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: installed at eight o'clock in the morning and meetings and

766
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 1: then you're on the practice field at ten thirty and

767
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: it's the first time you're actually running that play, and

768
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 1: so you've got to be able to There's just there's

769
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 1: going to be such growing pains for him in regards

770
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: to that. So he's got to have the mindset of

771
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna learn as much as I can. I'm gassed down,

772
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: put on the pedal all camp long, because this is

773
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: your time to learn. And he's just got to be

774
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: ready to go through that difficult struggle because all that

775
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: stuff that's going to get thrown at him because those

776
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,479
Speaker 1: first couple of weeks, most teams treated his training camp,

777
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: and then after that teams are getting ready for week one,

778
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: and so you're he's either going to be preparing to

779
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: go start week one or he's going to be kind

780
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: of taken a back burner a little bit and a

781
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 1: guy like AJ McCarron or Peterman will be preparing. So

782
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: he's just got to be prepared to get ready to

783
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 1: in take all that information day by day by day.

784
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: And I always told young kids, don't think about training camp,

785
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: think about Tuesday. Have a good Tuesday, and if you

786
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: have a good Tuesday, then you move on to Wednesday.

787
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: If you have a bad Tuesday, you move on to Wednesday.

788
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: But try to go at it day by day. Dan

789
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: talked a little bit about this. You've you played for

790
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: a long time. Did you ever have an opportunity like

791
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: the one that Aj McCarron is staring in the face?

792
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he can't. He backed up Andy Dalton, He

793
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 1: petitioned the Bengals to get out of Cincinnati. He's finally

794
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: getting a chance to compete as for a starting job

795
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: with Josh Allen, with Nate Peterman. Did you ever go

796
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: through a situation where you went in and had actually

797
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 1: had a chance to compete for a starting job like

798
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: Aj does. No, I've never had. I never had that chance.

799
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: I was always kind of pretty much, hey, you're going

800
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: to be our backup rule and unless something happens, you know,

801
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: it's such a unique position because the NFL, and we

802
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: always talk about it, you always here it's about opportunity

803
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: and saying is hey be ready for your opportunity or

804
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: won't ever come again. And so this is AJ mccarreen's

805
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: window for him too. And this isn't just the thing

806
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: that gets lost is this isn't just something that Aj

807
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: mccarreen's been working on for a year or two. This

808
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: has been something he's been working on in the opportunity

809
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: for a plus a decade. This is the moment, this

810
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: stretch that he's envisioned since he was a little kid

811
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: and played high school football and worked through all those

812
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: years and went to tell of them and worked through

813
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: all This is the window for him to take advantage

814
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 1: and strike and prove everything that he thinks of himself

815
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: and the people who don't believe in that prove them wrong.

816
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,439
Speaker 1: And so it's such a unique opportunity and it's rare

817
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: in the NFL for guys to just get an opportunity

818
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: like this that haven't had a ton of playing time

819
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: but yet are very much so in the thick of

820
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: an NFL starting quarterback job. Most guys you know, your

821
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: early round pick or whatever, but to have. This opportunity

822
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: is so rare. I'm excited to see how it bowls,

823
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: but it's it's a unique opportunity for him to go

824
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: and say I kind of put his stamp and say, yes,

825
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: I am one of the thirty two best in the

826
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: world at this. Well, Dan and this that brings it up.

827
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: We saw you told us and explain pretty well what

828
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: the situation for AJ is. What are they going to

829
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 1: get from him? What can we expect? I mean, he

830
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: had fifth round talent. He was picked in the fifth

831
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 1: round four years ago. He had four starts, and one

832
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: of those starts in a playoff game, which he actually

833
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: played pretty well in. He's acquitted himself pretty well when

834
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: he's gotten in. What are we gonna What kind of

835
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 1: quarterback can the Bill's coaching staff expect to see when

836
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: they go out and strap it on for real? Yeah?

837
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: So I think he's going to be really smart with

838
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: his decision making. He'll take care of the football. I

839
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: think he understands, Okay, I'm going to have all these

840
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: plays and the defense is going to present itself to me.

841
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: How do I pack the defense that I'm getting into.

842
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: What part of my play can I utilize he's certainly

843
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: not going to be a runner round athletic guy. But

844
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: and this is set in a complimentary mode. I think

845
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: he's gonna bring a brand of boring football and it's not.

846
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: I know, people said, oh, Tyrod Taylor never pushed the

847
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: ball downfield and never put it in harm's way. Well,

848
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: Tyrod did that because he could run all over the place.

849
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,479
Speaker 1: It was your strength of his. I think you're gonna

850
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: get the combo of that with Aj mccarren. You're gonna

851
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: get the combo of, you know, protecting the football and

852
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: valuing the football, but also being willing to push the

853
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: ball downfield because he has a greater understanding of how

854
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 1: to attack defenses because he's had to. He's never had

855
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Speaker 1: that ability to run around. So I think the more

856
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: Brian Dabo can kind of tap into those strengths and

857
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: go back and look at that Cincinnati's film and salekay

858
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: Aj displays really understanding coverages and how to go attack

859
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: those coverages. Or when I give him this play, he

860
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: knows where the weakness of the defenses. The more he

861
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 1: can build that into the offense and giving him simplified

862
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,439
Speaker 1: reads the same that they need to do with Josh

863
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: Allen the same that most quarterbacks need. I think that

864
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: he can go play good efish and football. They'll have

865
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Speaker 1: to rely heavily on Benjamin in the run game getting

866
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 1: the ball out of their hands because of the offensive

867
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,240
Speaker 1: line issues. But I do believe that a J. McCarron

868
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Speaker 1: is equipped to be a solid quarterback. Where he goes

869
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: from there is all dependent on the play caller and

870
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: what's around him. Dan, After all the work that you

871
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: did watching Josh Allen throughout the draft process, for you

872
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: and the Bills very much have a plan for what

873
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Speaker 1: they want and what they want him to accomplish. As

874
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: he kind of goes along here for you and what

875
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: you saw, what does he need to improve upon before

876
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 1: he ever sees the light of day. Yeah, it's two

877
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 1: things that are very simply said, very difficult to get

878
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: a handle of. One. Understanding the problems playing quarterback is

879
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: a lot like hitting a golf ball. It's about missus.

880
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: That's the same with golf. Minimizing your missus. That's part

881
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: of playing quarterback, and it's a big part of that

882
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 1: minimizing the bad. So you always have to He's going

883
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 1: to always have to know, Okay, what's the bad part

884
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: of this play? What are my problems? Because the more

885
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:12,240
Speaker 1: you can keep your team moving forward. And that sounds monotonous,

886
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: but it's the truth of the position because plays come

887
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: to you as a quarterback, and he's so talented, plays

888
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: will come to him. But just understanding the bads of

889
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 1: the plays. Okay, under protections, where's the weakness of your protections?

890
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: Where's the strength of your defenses? If the blitz is

891
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: coming from our right, am I blocked enough? If not,

892
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: what do I do with the football? How do I

893
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: negate the bad? And that's my concern putting him out

894
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: there right away is quarterbacks, young quarterbacks who can struggle

895
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: with that. If they don't understand the bad, they revert

896
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: to bad habits, and then you put them in places

897
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: where those bad habits are hard to get rid of,

898
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Speaker 1: and so panicking to throw the football, running around too much,

899
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: holding in the pocket because you don't know what's going on.

900
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,240
Speaker 1: So understanding the problems of his plays and having answers

901
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 1: for them is one. Two utilizing his eyes as first

902
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 1: getting his eyes to not give away what he wants

903
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 1: to do with the football, and then two using them

904
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Speaker 1: as weapons. And so you can't stare down people in

905
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: the NFL. You just players are too good. Defensive coaches

906
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: know you too well. They figure out plans and make

907
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: you do what they want you to do, and so

908
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: utilizing his eyes, being more disciplined with his eyes. I

909
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: talked about this with Nick Foles last year. God has

910
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: been in the himself for six or seven years. When

911
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: he had that little tough stretch of six quarters at

912
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 1: the back end of the season, I said, it's very simple.

913
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Speaker 1: He's had poor eye discipline. Eye discipline is something that

914
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 1: is so difficult because it's boring. It's not sexy. I

915
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: don't want to do it. No one thinks it's cool.

916
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Speaker 1: Eye discipline has allows you to play efficient football consistently,

917
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 1: and then talent takes over. So those are not two things.

918
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Speaker 1: Understanding problems and have better eye discipline. Former NFL quarterback

919
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Speaker 1: Dan Orlovsky played twelve seasons in the NFL. He's a

920
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Speaker 1: contributor to the Athletic and NFL Network. Thanks for joining

921
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: us here on one Bills Live. Appreciate you, Dan. We'll

922
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Speaker 1: have you on again soon. I appreciate you guys having me,

923
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Speaker 1: but take care man. Thanks to right Dan Orlovsky on

924
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: the Subway Fresh Take Hotline, Subway Eat Fresh. Thanks for

925
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 1: joining us, Dan, great guy, good stick too, played golf

926
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Speaker 1: with him a couple of times. But he's a typical quarterback.

927
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 1: He's like nine feet tall, you know, and all those

928
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: guys get all the breaks. All right, Well, we'll come back.

929
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Speaker 1: We're gonna recap what Dan had to say to us.

930
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 1: There's a lot in there. He's like most quarterbacks. He

931
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: cannot get that guy to shut up. One Bill's Live

932
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Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back

933
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Speaker 1: to One Bills Live. A lot of stuff in there.

934
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Speaker 1: In the Dan Orlovsky interview, we just got off the

935
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Speaker 1: phone with him. He's going to be doing the broadcasting

936
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Speaker 1: for the NFL Flag Football League coming up. He's down

937
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh getting ready for that. This is their opening weekend.

938
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Speaker 1: And we also talked to him about his experiences in

939
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: training camp. One of the interesting things was, you know,

940
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: how a young quarterback should approach his first training camp? Yeah,

941
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: and and I thought it was especially interesting heed what

942
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 1: he believes that Josh Allen needs to do before he

943
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 1: actually sees the field for the Bills, before they because

944
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: once they rip that band aid off, you can't put

945
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 1: it back on with the first round rookie quarterback. It's

946
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: it's from that point forward, it's the Josh Allen Show

947
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: unless he gets injured. And so there are some legitimate

948
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: things he needs to work on. And Orlovsky brought up

949
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: just negotiating defenders with his eyes, and that's that's going

950
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 1: to be vital to him. And that's something that even

951
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: at the college level he kind of struggled with, so

952
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: that we need to see some improvement from that before

953
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: he sees the letter. If you want to know how

954
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: tough it is, you know, go out there in any

955
00:46:55,920 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: kind of thing, even three on three backyard football, like

956
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: you know, Thanksgiving Day, we're all out in the front

957
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,479
Speaker 1: yard or whatever, playing with our friends in the neighborhood kids.

958
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: And think about how hard it is for you when

959
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: you get the ball in your hand, if you're the quarterback,

960
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: drop back and don't look at where you're going to

961
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: throw it, and then swip your eyes around and find

962
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 1: the guy and throw it in there. That that's hard

963
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: to do. Plus, the first thing you gotta do is

964
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: when you're back them, even if you're throwing against you

965
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: learn to like when you're throwing on air and stuff.

966
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: You drop back, you look over, you see your receiver

967
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: and you throw it to them. When in the NFL,

968
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: quarterback who's throwing the football can't do any of that.

969
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: You drop back and you're looking at the defense. You

970
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 1: look at the guys in the other jerseys. You're seeing

971
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: where they are, where they're dropping, where their position, how

972
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: they're moving after the snap, and then you decide where

973
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: the weakness where what part of the field are they

974
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: going to leave uncovered where I have a receiver going

975
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: to And then you don't look, and then you wait,

976
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 1: and you wait until the timing of the route you

977
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: feel it. And then when you feel that route is

978
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 1: supposed to be on, you look over and throw the football.

979
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 1: And the guy's got to be there, but it has

980
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: to be with anticipation because you don't actually know if

981
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: he's going to be there. That's the mental clock, and

982
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: that's the thing. You have a mental clock. Everybody does

983
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 1: in the league. And that's maybe the easiest part about

984
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: the whole thing. Your mental clock. You drop back, you

985
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: know when you're supposed to be throwing the football, but

986
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 1: you can't look until it's time to do that. And

987
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: that's a really hard lesson for young quarterbacks learn because

988
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's rare when a college offense

989
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: asks you to do that because they just don't play

990
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: against defenses that require you to do that. See, that's

991
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 1: that's that's why when we talk about using your eyes

992
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: to your advantage. That's why in those Thanksgiving Day games

993
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: that you're talking about, I loved playing safety because nine

994
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: times out of ten, that quarterback is going to be

995
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: staring down his target. So yeah, I'll just scoot right

996
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: in front of that take the interception. Why the heck

997
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,879
Speaker 1: not go back and run to the bushes for a touchdown? Yeah? Yeah,

998
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: I mean that's the way it works. I mean, and

999
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: that's even in youth football that you know, you just

1000
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: don't play against defenses that require are you to play

1001
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: that level of football? In the NFL, you've got to

1002
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 1: do it. And that's um And that's dan Orlovsky's insights

1003
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: into that. As we just spoke to him, was we're

1004
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: right on the money. And he had a lot of

1005
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 1: things to say about AJ McCarron as well about and

1006
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 1: we've all said it, he really said it. This is

1007
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: an unbelievable opportunity and I think a J McCarron does

1008
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,240
Speaker 1: understand it. I mean, if you're sitting behind Andy Dalton

1009
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: never getting a chance, and Dan Orroski he played twelve

1010
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: season in the NFL, he goes he never in twelve

1011
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:28,919
Speaker 1: years had a chance where he brought in, was brought

1012
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 1: in and said, Okay, you're going to get a chance

1013
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 1: to start if you can prove it. And see, that's

1014
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: the thing about AJ McCarron that I wonder, because this

1015
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: is such a huge offseason, a huge training camp for him.

1016
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 1: Is there going is he going to feel it? Is

1017
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: he going to feel the pressure throughout the rest of

1018
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: the r We talked about that event. Yes, will it

1019
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: affect him? Yeah? Right? And is it going to eat

1020
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: him alive? Because hey, at mini camp he was not

1021
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: the best quarterback there. Nathan Peterman was the better of

1022
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 1: those two guys, two fifth rounders, by a lot. So

1023
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: I wonder if if that mental side of things might

1024
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:06,439
Speaker 1: play into what AJ McCarron inevitably does. In both camp

1025
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 1: and preseason. We talked so much about young receivers and

1026
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: all of that, and some days you're gonna have a

1027
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: bad game, and both of these guys, you know, Nathan

1028
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: Peterman and AJ McCarron are gonna have to deal with

1029
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: it just like a rookie widry. All those rookie wide receivers,

1030
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: they're gonna be thrown to you. All right. We'll be

1031
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: back with more after this. Lorenzo Alexander coming up at

1032
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: the top of the hour. This is One Bills Live

1033
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bills Radiofalo Bills Radio

1034
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:44,280
Speaker 1: Network Stories update. The NFL has suspended Buccaneers quarterback James

1035
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston three games for violating the league's Personal conduct policy.

1036
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: As a negotiated settlement, Winston will not appeal this suspension.

1037
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 1: The Bucks currently have Ryan Fitzpatrick and Ryan Griffin as

1038
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: the other quarterbacks on their roster. To hockey, rumors continue

1039
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: to swirl that upcoming free agent Carter Hutton is headed

1040
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: to Buffalo when free agency gets underway on Sunday. The

1041
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: Blues goaltender put up a seventeen and seven record in

1042
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: thirty two games last season that included a two point

1043
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: nine gold against and a nine point nine three one

1044
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: save percentage. The Sabers in need of a netminder after

1045
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: they announced they will not be bringing back Robin Leonard

1046
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: on the ice. The Sabers rolling on with their development

1047
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: camp at the Harbor Center Downtown. They'll wrap up their

1048
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 1: prospect camp with the annual Three on three French Connection

1049
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 1: Tournament Saturday afternoon. NBA Lebron James officially declines his player

1050
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 1: option with the Cavaliers, officially becoming a free agent, turning

1051
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: down a thirty five point six million dollars salary for

1052
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: the twenty eighteen nineteen season. James can now sign with

1053
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: any team that of course, includes the option to resign

1054
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 1: with Cleveland. A solid sixteen days into the World Cup,

1055
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: sixteen teams remain, but today is the first game, first

1056
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 1: day without a game. Group Stage is now over with

1057
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: the knockout round getting underway on Saturday. Baseball, the Buffalo

1058
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 1: Bison's ripped off three straight wins over Pawtucket to end

1059
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: their seven game homestand the Herd now on the road

1060
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: down the thru Way in Syracuse. The two teams begin

1061
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: a three game set starting tonight at seven o five.

1062
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Speaker 1: That is your sports update. We are pleased to be

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Speaker 1: joined by Buffalo Bill's linebacker and our good friend who's

1064
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: on with us a ton uh. He's gonna skype in

1065
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: with us from Arizona. Lorenzo Alexander, Lorenzo's Joe Biscalia and

1066
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker. How are you doing? Can you hear us? Yeah?

1067
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 1: I can hear you. What's going on? Tasks Man? Joe

1068
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,760
Speaker 1: was good, join the summer. Nah, we're enjoying our summer.

1069
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: It's all. It's perpetual summer in Arizona though, right, I

1070
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: mean it's gotta be nice out there. It's nice out here.

1071
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: It's about one hundred and ten degrees dry heath. I

1072
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: mean he get some good training in and join the

1073
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 1: family and join the some downtime in the pool and

1074
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 1: can't wait to get back at Buffalo. Now we caught

1075
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: you in the in the gym today. I know you're

1076
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: over at working out. What's the name of the place

1077
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: you're working out. Not that we're giving out any any

1078
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: gifts are in but where you work out and there

1079
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: I see there's a ton of guys in there behind

1080
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: you were looking at earlier. Yeah, this is like a Bodybuilders,

1081
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: Jim Man. It's called Glory Gains. I'm actually out here

1082
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 1: with my trainer, Thomas Weatherspoon, who brought me up as

1083
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: a young kid and also trained me for the combine,

1084
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: So I'm working out with him over here in North Scottsdale.

1085
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 1: Lorenzo talked to us a little bit about your We

1086
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 1: had this thing on yesterday. We had this big question

1087
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 1: about your favorite memories from training camp. Maybe some for fans.

1088
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: It was like, who did you meet, what autograph did

1089
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: you get signed? You know, what happened to training camp

1090
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 1: the day you were there. What are some of the

1091
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: top memories in your recollection from the times you've been

1092
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: in a training camp. Top memories? It's training camp ever

1093
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: a memorable time. I mean outside of just hanging guys,

1094
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: I mean it's brutal. I mean most of mine are

1095
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: just remembering then enduring with your guys. I mean that's

1096
00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: the biggest thing, because I mean they put you through

1097
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 1: essentially hell. I mean if you get there, especially in

1098
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: the old days, he had two of days. You know,

1099
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:08,439
Speaker 1: you got three hour practice in the morning, three hour

1100
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: practice in the afternoon. It was hard. So the biggest

1101
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: memories you kind of go back talking with your guys

1102
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,439
Speaker 1: is talking about a coach that was crazy, talking about

1103
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: that time we had this long practice, you know that

1104
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: those type of things. But I guess my biggest memory

1105
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,280
Speaker 1: is probably a preseason game that I had. I actually

1106
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: made the team probably off this play. My helmet came

1107
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: off the quarterback scramble and I ran and tap at

1108
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: the quarterback in one of my safeties redoubt. He came

1109
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: in and actually hit me from the side. You know,

1110
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: I popped up. I had to go out the game

1111
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: and get some stitches. But from that time one, that's

1112
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 1: when I made the team that year for the Washington Redskin.

1113
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: So that's probably my most memorable time during the preseason. Lorenzo,

1114
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: you were you were in the league before the lockout,

1115
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: obviously when there still was two of days. And I mean,

1116
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: do you ever give guph to these younger guys and say, hey,

1117
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: you guys don't really know what training camp is, man, Yeah,

1118
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: they have no clue. And most of these kids didn't

1119
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 1: have two days in college either, because that rule change

1120
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: soon after the NFL made the comment. You know, you're

1121
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 1: just trying to let them know this stuff is easy

1122
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: out here's a cake walk. But for me, it has

1123
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: been beneficial. That's why I'm probably still playing in the

1124
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: league today. Because we had two days, had that grind

1125
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 1: like we did back in the day, I'd definitely be

1126
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: worn down from man. I gotta be honest with you.

1127
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 1: I totally get you because when they had this question. Yes,

1128
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: we got a lot of calls yesterday. People have a

1129
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: lot of great memories from the guys they met, and

1130
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: you know, you've met fans and stuff. Even how close

1131
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: knit you can play, players know they're going to interact

1132
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 1: with fans of training camp. But for us and for me,

1133
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: I still have emotional scar tissue from training camps, the

1134
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: kind you describe. You talk about one hundred and ten

1135
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: degree heat out in Arizona today, it was two weeks

1136
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: of one hundred degree weather in West Texas and ten

1137
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: of those days was one hundred and ten degrees. Above

1138
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 1: one hundred and ten degrees, it was rough with you, right, Yeah,

1139
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 1: depending on where you at. And I was at Spartan Bird,

1140
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: South Carolina. I've been in Virginia where the humidity is

1141
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: just out of control. So not only are you general

1142
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 1: with the heat, but you're walking off the field with

1143
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: the feels like ten pounds of water and your shoes,

1144
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: your shorts and your shoulder pad. Right, yeah, that and

1145
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 1: you're right, and that's that's kind of where it's at. Now.

1146
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 1: What now tell us this like what is your last

1147
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 1: you know, last couple of weeks before training and do

1148
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,919
Speaker 1: you have a ritual like the last few days before

1149
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 1: you go to training camp that you get ready for it,

1150
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: like you go on a trip or you do the

1151
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 1: same thing every year. You know, I kind of been

1152
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: in a little bit of a transition here as far

1153
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 1: as moving from Virginia to Arizona. But before that, me

1154
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 1: and a good friend of mine, Kendrick Ghost, and we

1155
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 1: used to go to Smith Mountain Lake every year with

1156
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 1: our families for about three or four days to go down,

1157
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: they get on the water, hang out. We will still

1158
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: work out, but it was a good time to just

1159
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: kind of get away from the city and just hang

1160
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: out with each other and do some fishing, do some

1161
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: water skin and just have a good time before we

1162
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,800
Speaker 1: kind of hit it hard this year just because of

1163
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: the way things worked out, we won't be able to

1164
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: do that. But I know my family a chance to

1165
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: go down to Disney World, but we normally take some

1166
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 1: type of trip right before training camp starts, because you know,

1167
00:56:55,920 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: my time gets cut thin obviously once the season begins. Hey, Lorenzo,

1168
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: when when you do get the training camp and you

1169
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: know you still got a little bit of you know,

1170
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:09,439
Speaker 1: relaxed time at the moment when you do actually get there.

1171
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: I mean, what is the biggest message you impress upon

1172
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: the younger guys that are going there for the first time,

1173
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: that are probably gonna be fighting for their roster lives

1174
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: and maybe have they have some pressure on them. I

1175
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: mean because you were in that spot, So what what

1176
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: how do you kind of lend your experience to them

1177
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: as it goes on? Right, Well, I think we've already

1178
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: started that process, and it started back in OTA's you know,

1179
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: just realized letting guys realize they only can control what

1180
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: they can control. I'm getting caught up in the numbers game,

1181
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: you know, counting how many guys in your position, how

1182
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: many guys are on that other position, because those the

1183
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: things that you can't control. Every day, approaching with a

1184
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 1: mentality is I'm going to get better at this certain

1185
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 1: thing that the coaches pointed out, because you never want

1186
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: to be a repeat offender, because that's the easiest way

1187
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: to get out of the league because then coaches can't

1188
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: trust you. And then again, just learn how to take

1189
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 1: care of your body, how to get through it mentally,

1190
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,919
Speaker 1: because training camp can become anotonous because it's the same thing,

1191
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 1: feels like ground Halliday every single day. So being able

1192
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 1: to break it down to get through it mentally, so

1193
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 1: every time you come out you're fresh. So those are

1194
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: the two biggest things that I tell guys when they

1195
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: come in, because those are the things that that weigh

1196
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: on you the most because you are fighting for your

1197
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: job and ultimately trying to accomplish the dream because even

1198
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: though you've been drafting, you haven't played in the end

1199
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 1: the game yet. So and be a lot of pressure

1200
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: on Lorenzo. You just had a couple bunch of weeks

1201
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: of OTAs and then you know, Mini camp you were

1202
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: you were here for a bunch of weeks and the

1203
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: team was all together, a lot of new faces. It's

1204
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: a big roster, the new coaches on the staff, new

1205
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 1: offensive coaches, all that stuff going on. As you start

1206
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 1: to you, as you were here for a couple of weeks,

1207
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 1: you started working in and around these guys every day.

1208
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: As you left now to get ready for training camp,

1209
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts about this roster and what this

1210
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 1: team is gonna look like this season. I think we

1211
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: have a chance to be really good. I mean, nobody

1212
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: gave us a chance last year. I think on roster

1213
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: from man to man, I think we little bit better.

1214
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you have the continuity of coming back

1215
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 1: for a second year, and for me it's always been

1216
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 1: about team. Obviously, people nationally and even locally they always analyze,

1217
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: you know, what's this player rank up against another player,

1218
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: But we all know playing the game that football is

1219
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: ultimate team sport. And if we have great chemistry and

1220
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 1: cambaraderie and come together and everybody understands their role within

1221
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: the system, you're able to overcome and really outperform a

1222
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: lot of expectations. And I think we have that we

1223
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: have enough leadership on both sides of the ball to

1224
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 1: be able to do that this year and obviously go

1225
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 1: back to the playoffs and hopefully even go a little

1226
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 1: bit further. You know, but you know, just being you know,

1227
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: standing back from it, obviously, you always got to see

1228
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen at the quarterback position. That's probably the

1229
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 1: biggest thing right now. That's an unknown because you have

1230
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 1: three guys that's competing, and the quarterback is so vital

1231
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 1: to your team. Trying to identify who that lead is

1232
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 1: going to be, Who's that guy's that's gonna go walk

1233
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 1: out with our offense and lead them down the field

1234
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: and help put points on the board. But defensively, all

1235
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 1: were worried about is getting the ball back In between me, Kyle,

1236
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: you know, Um, Micah JP, Jordan Poyer, obviously, Tremaine Tredavius,

1237
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: all these guys, we want to go out there and

1238
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:09,919
Speaker 1: be the leaders and really set the tone and get

1239
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 1: them the ball back as most as much as possible,

1240
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 1: and we had the talent to do it. That's that's

1241
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 1: a great thing. And I think guys know how good

1242
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 1: we can be versus We're not quite sure. So that's

1243
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 1: gonna be the biggest difference for me, is having that

1244
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 1: that early confidence walking into the league and be able

1245
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 1: to carry the bat throughout the season defensively and then

1246
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 1: allowing that to really being infections of the team offense

1247
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: and special teams. Yeah. One of the other things too,

1248
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 1: I want to ask you, particularly your front seven, the

1249
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 1: guys that you're gonna be playing right next to talking

1250
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: to all the time in the same meeting room with

1251
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 1: it seems like you've got some really important guys that

1252
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 1: have parachuted in Trent Murphy, Starlo Tu Lelee, and then

1253
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: of course Harrison Phillips and draft pick and Tremaine Edmonds.

1254
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got some a lot of new faces

1255
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: that are gonna play significant snaps, a lot of new

1256
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 1: starters on the front seven. How are those guys coming together?

1257
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,919
Speaker 1: They're coming together great. Um, I'm really excited to see

1258
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 1: Trent and training camp. Obviously he was out of all

1259
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,919
Speaker 1: of OTA's due to an injury, but just keep talking

1260
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 1: to him, watching him, getting to know him from Afar

1261
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 1: because he was a red Skin. I'm really excited to

1262
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 1: see the dimension and the maturity, the wisdom that he

1263
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: brings to our defensive line. Um, it's only gonna obviously

1264
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 1: solidify with his playing experience. And I tell you Star,

1265
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 1: you know we talked about his run stuff, inability doing

1266
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,479
Speaker 1: these pass rush drills, third down stuff. I've been working

1267
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 1: a lot with him and he can get after the

1268
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 1: past or two. So I think he's gonna shock a

1269
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 1: lot of people with his versatility that he brings on

1270
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 1: first and second down the past game, but also even

1271
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 1: seeing him out there on some third down plays as well.

1272
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 1: And then you mentioned the young fellow Harrison Phillips. Very smart, intelligent,

1273
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Speaker 1: UM gets the game is understanding it, but obviously he's

1274
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 1: a rookie. It still has a lot to go as

1275
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 1: far as being able to Yeah, we gotta we got

1276
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 1: a frozen Skype screen now, so we're gonna have to

1277
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 1: reset that. I mean, it's in one of the interesting things. Oh,

1278
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: go ahead, I don't know, we're gonna hit and hitting

1279
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 1: trying to face it. One of the important things that

1280
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 1: Lorenzo said is I think he is he's a typical

1281
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 1: player in some respects because he's always optimistic. Yeah, and

1282
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: particularly a veteran player. Those veteran guys always come back

1283
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 1: to the point where, you know what we've got, what

1284
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 1: it takes, let's put it together and do it. And

1285
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 1: I think we've got We've got We've got Lorenzo back. Now. Sorry, Lorenzo,

1286
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna talk that. You were just finishing up talking

1287
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 1: about Harrison Phillips's intelligence at the front, right. Yeah, And

1288
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna definitely add add to us and

1289
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 1: add depth and add some some plays, especially damning down

1290
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 1: the line once he gets some game reps under his belt.

1291
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 1: And yeah, obviously I am very optimistic because I'm in it.

1292
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 1: He's are my guys. I believe in him. And I'm

1293
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:45,919
Speaker 1: never going to walk into a season thinking that we're

1294
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 1: not good enough. I leave that to the gems and

1295
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: the fans and the media that kind of figure all

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01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: that stuff out, because believe, as you know Steve can

1297
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 1: go a long way. And you tell the guy I

1298
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: believe in you, even though you made in the back

1299
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 1: of your mind, like I don't know if you're good enough,

1300
01:02:57,880 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 1: You're believe in him and telling that, and as a

1301
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:03,640
Speaker 1: VETU guy, he may surprise you and raise his game up.

1302
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 1: So that's how I'm always going to approach it. I'm

1303
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 1: never gonna tell a guy you just ain't good enough

1304
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 1: to play. You're just not gonna get that out of him.

1305
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 1: Ind I'm gonna look at you create you can you

1306
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 1: can create a riff in the locker room. You're exactly right.

1307
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 1: Belief goes a long way in the locker room, particularly

1308
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 1: with guys you love and respect, if they know you

1309
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 1: do believe in and and and think they can do

1310
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 1: it and they are good enough. You really really it's

1311
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 1: easy to dig deep when things go south, exactly well, Lorenzo,

1312
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: when when you have when when you actually get to

1313
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 1: see Trent Murphy play, I mean, the guy had a

1314
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 1: fantastic twenty sixteen and then obviously that the town acl

1315
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen is is set him back a little bit.

1316
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 1: I mean just from talking with him and and everything

1317
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 1: that you know about him as a person, now that

1318
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 1: that you've been with him for the past like a

1319
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 1: few months, what what kind of how hungry is he?

1320
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 1: What what kind of drive is there? Because I mean

1321
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 1: he's a vital part to this because the pass rushing

1322
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 1: needs to need to happen this year. You would think, yeah,

1323
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 1: I mean he's a blue collar guy. I mean he's

1324
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 1: a hard worker. Obviously ultratality as well, and we put

1325
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 1: those two combinations together alongside the other guys on that

1326
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 1: defensive line, you expect success. You know. Obviously there's been

1327
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 1: a big I guess overcast over our pass rush over

1328
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,439
Speaker 1: the years. Obviously buffalo has been used to one thing.

1329
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 1: But you know, stature, sexy, and I always say this,

1330
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you the star sometimes to the star maker,

1331
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 1: and this me individually that two years ago, obviously I

1332
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 1: had my best year rushing to pass that ever twolve

1333
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 1: and a half sacked sex. Wow, we didn't make the

1334
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 1: playoffs last year. My numbers drop off, but I'm still

1335
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,479
Speaker 1: affecting the quarterback, and you have guys like Michael Hide,

1336
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 1: Jordan Poyer, Davis White picking the ball off because of

1337
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 1: guys like me and Jerry and Kyle being disruptive. Then

1338
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 1: those guys become the stars. But at the end of

1339
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 1: the day, we make the playoffs. So you're adding guys

1340
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 1: light Trent are gonna add to what we all already

1341
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 1: have created. I think we are very good defensive line

1342
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 1: what we had last year, but adding guys like that,

1343
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 1: it's gonna solidify us and make us even deeper and

1344
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 1: more productive. Correct me if I'm wrong. Jerry had one

1345
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 1: of the most underrated years last year, even though the

1346
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 1: sacks weren't there. I mean, he was really good every

1347
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 1: single week last year. Yeah, yeah, I mean he was

1348
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 1: and but but d linemen are judge in this league,

1349
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 1: especially now with being such a pass heavy league, or

1350
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 1: judged by sack totals. But Jerry is a dominant force

1351
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 1: on the outside and it just you know, and then

1352
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 1: you couple that being with being in Buffalo. I think

1353
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 1: he's a little underappreciated, uh nationally for what type of

1354
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 1: player he is because he's probably one of the I

1355
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 1: would say top five as far as playing the pass

1356
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 1: in the in the run, he gets after and he

1357
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 1: gets dirty, and most defensive ends, especially in this league,

1358
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 1: don't like to play the run at all. So you

1359
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 1: just finished your OTAs you just finished with many camp.

1360
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 1: You're back in Arizona, your families there with you, and

1361
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 1: you're in working out. You're at the gym today. What's

1362
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 1: what's your workout entail today? What are you guys going on?

1363
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 1: You know, the best trainers never let you know what

1364
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 1: you gotta do, so you can't really mistically prepare for it.

1365
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 1: So we're just working on some speeds, some foundational work

1366
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. I'll put my lift in um.

1367
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 1: Yesterday I had a good pool workout, you know, working

1368
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:16,680
Speaker 1: on some explosions supplyos but making a less impact obviously

1369
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 1: being in the water. So it's been a lot of

1370
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 1: fun and Thomas has been one of the great ones

1371
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 1: who's been around this league a long time, working with

1372
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 1: guys you know, when I was really coming out and

1373
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 1: put a lot of first rounders and spick speed guy,

1374
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 1: and that's what I really want to focus on, obviously

1375
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 1: being strong, but also being able to change directions and

1376
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 1: be able to run with these guys, because that's always

1377
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 1: as I get older, it gonna be one of the

1378
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 1: things that I have to make sure that I maintained

1379
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 1: and really focus on because I got the grown man strength. Lorenzo,

1380
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 1: I know you're a huge NBA fan. I have to

1381
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 1: ask you about Lebron and opting out today. I mean,

1382
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 1: what do you what do you feel about about that?

1383
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 1: I mean, the potential of him going to the Lakers,

1384
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 1: all that is out there, and I know you're a

1385
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 1: fan of it. Oh yeah, yeah, I mean it's great.

1386
01:06:57,560 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 1: I mean it's great. I mean it's Lebron. I mean,

1387
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna hate. It's not the way I would

1388
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 1: have nationally done things, but this is who he is,

1389
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 1: this is how he's operated. He's gonna maximize obviously his

1390
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 1: his playing potential, but also his business business opportunities as well.

1391
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 1: And if he can go to LA and get those

1392
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 1: other two guys and Kawhi and Paul George to come

1393
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 1: with them and create another team that's gonna be very

1394
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 1: competitive in that Western Conference and win a couple of championships,

1395
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 1: it's really gonna, you know, enhance his legacy own it

1396
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 1: off the court, you know, even more so, and because

1397
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 1: obviously the Lakers organization is iconic and transcends all sports,

1398
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, people all over the country and

1399
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 1: all over the world know that that organization stands for

1400
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be interesting to see. You know, I'm

1401
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 1: still rocket with my warriors said we get knocked off,

1402
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 1: we are the champs. Do you do you read anything

1403
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 1: into the fact that Lebron bought a house in la

1404
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 1: and like sixteen eighteen months before he went to Miami,

1405
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 1: bought a house down there, sixteen eighteen months now he's

1406
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 1: back in Cleveland. Now he's bought a house in LA

1407
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 1: You read anything into that? I mean, obviously it always

1408
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 1: increases his ass because obviously he's setting up shot to

1409
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 1: get ready. But yeah, he's done it in the past.

1410
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 1: He's a creature habit. It's probably a precursor to what

1411
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 1: he's gonna do. And I think everybody pretty much knows

1412
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 1: that he's going to LA. I mean, he's won a

1413
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 1: championship for Cleveland, and I think he's gonna be let

1414
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:18,799
Speaker 1: off a little bit of the hook because he's probably

1415
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 1: learned from the last time the way he handled it,

1416
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 1: that he won't do it the same way this time.

1417
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 1: Do you think the Lakers pulled the trifecting and get

1418
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 1: Kauhi there too. Yeah, they can do whatever they need

1419
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:28,680
Speaker 1: to do, but they still not gonna have enough to

1420
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 1: knock off my boys down in the bank. I was

1421
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 1: gonna say, you got some division rivalries there at State. Yeah, yeah,

1422
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 1: we're gonna beat up on each other, you know. Obviously

1423
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 1: with Houston still being hot to you gotta see what's

1424
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 1: gonna happen down there. But you had another powerhouse. But

1425
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 1: I just think we're just too talented. We play great

1426
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 1: team ball. It's definitely gonna be probably some game sevens,

1427
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, icond of game says in

1428
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 1: the Western Conference now, And it's really gonna depend how

1429
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 1: you get that CD because whoever's you know, has to

1430
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 1: play each other two and three with those other two teams,

1431
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 1: you don't. I said, we want to have to do

1432
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 1: that back to back, you know, play Houston and then

1433
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 1: go play the Lakers or whatever, how of that combination

1434
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 1: works out, because that's gonna be some hard sledding right there. Yeah,

1435
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 1: that's a good point. So maybe not rest your starters

1436
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 1: as much throughout the season to get that one seed exactly,

1437
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:16,599
Speaker 1: So now the season actually has a lot more meaning

1438
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 1: to especially what about this though, does it? Does it

1439
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 1: pave the way in the Eastern Conference for the Celtics.

1440
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 1: You just coast right on through the regular season and

1441
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 1: get to the finals and just try and put all

1442
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 1: the eggs into that basket. Yeah, I mean, obviously the Celtics.

1443
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 1: Philadelpha is another young team that's gonna be out there,

1444
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 1: that's hot, that's up and coming. And obviously when any

1445
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:36,720
Speaker 1: time Lebron has moved out the way, those teams are

1446
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 1: gonna rise to the top. But I mean the Western

1447
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 1: Conference gonna be hard to beat, you know when you

1448
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 1: think about the Warriors, the Lakers in the Houston for

1449
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 1: the next couple of years, So they're gonna have to

1450
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 1: take their beating until they kind of probably mature and

1451
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:51,799
Speaker 1: rise up and maybe add another piece or two. Lorenzo

1452
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 1: Alexander join us on one Bill's Live Good Workout. I

1453
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 1: hope you have a great workout today. Thanks for coming on.

1454
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 1: It's been great, Senior. We'll ak forward to seeing you

1455
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:01,759
Speaker 1: back in Buffalo Saint John Fisher in a couple of weeks.

1456
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I can't wait. Fellows that jump on with

1457
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 1: you there too, all right, love, Thanks Lorenzo. Lorenzo Alexander

1458
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 1: taking a break from his offseason workhouse to come on

1459
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 1: up with us at One Bill's Live Joe, and he

1460
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 1: says a lot of stuff and that, right, the NBA

1461
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 1: stuff is really interesting about Lebron because it's rare that

1462
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 1: you see a guy that is so transcendent. I mean,

1463
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 1: we did it with Michael Jordan, we saw it with him,

1464
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 1: but really he's but Kobe never really took that role, right,

1465
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 1: you know, we never really had that kind of uh

1466
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:32,680
Speaker 1: you know this this star watch with anybody when during

1467
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 1: Kobe's time and you know, and aside from that, I mean,

1468
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 1: who else was there? You know, it's been it's Lebron,

1469
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:42,559
Speaker 1: I know, and you know, I'm a huge NBA fan.

1470
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 1: It's it's part of part of Mike fabric and right,

1471
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 1: you know, I listened to a lot of NBA podcasts

1472
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 1: and the most fascinating possibility that I've heard so far

1473
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 1: is the idea that the Philadelphia seventy six ers could

1474
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:58,799
Speaker 1: if if they got everyone to say yes, they could

1475
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 1: if they cleared out enough space trade for Kawhi Kawhi.

1476
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:07,719
Speaker 1: Leonard Keep, Ben Simmons, Keep Joel Embiid and signed Lebron James.

1477
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 1: That would be ridiculous if it ever happened. Probably not

1478
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:13,639
Speaker 1: going to happen. Like Lorenzo said, it's probably Lebron's probably

1479
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 1: gonna end up with the Lakers because that's thee that

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01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 1: seems to be the way everything is trending right now.

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01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 1: But Kawhi Leonard in that combination going out there, Man,

1482
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 1: is that fascinating. And the Kawhi Leonard sweepstakes are just

1483
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 1: awesome because you've got Boston in on it, You've got

1484
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 1: Filly in on it, You've got the La Lakers in

1485
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 1: on it. It's it's it's gonna be. This offseason is

1486
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 1: going to be dynamite for the NBA. And we're almost here. Yeah,

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01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 1: Lebron opted out. It's here, it's here, it's and now

1488
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 1: it starts, and I wonder how long it'll be before

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01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 1: we decide. But anyway, Yeah, that's gonna be interesting because

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01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:46,640
Speaker 1: that'll give us something to talk about next year when

1491
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 1: they're our season's over and uh and the NBA seasons

1492
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 1: still going. We did that a little bit before the

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01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 1: draft as the NBA playoffs were winding up. Murph and

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01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 1: I had a lot to talk about with Lebron and

1495
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 1: the Calves and the Warriors, and it was a lot

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01:11:57,439 --> 01:12:00,040
Speaker 1: of I mean, he could he could conceivably sign a

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01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 1: one year deal and this whole thing restarts next year,

1498
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 1: or sign a one year with an option with a

1499
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 1: player option and then opt out of that and then

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01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:10,720
Speaker 1: go to a new place or whatever happens. Right. I

1501
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 1: love Lebron, I love everything. You love all that stuff. Huh?

1502
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:17,639
Speaker 1: All right, Well, had fun talking to Lorenzo Alexander, big

1503
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 1: NBA fan. We chit chatted about Lebron opting out today.

1504
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 1: That's one of the big stories. Were also asking our

1505
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:24,879
Speaker 1: listeners what would you what would be your ideal Buffalo

1506
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 1: Bills quarterback scenario when training camp ins. Camp starts in

1507
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 1: just under a month, and we're starting to wind up

1508
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 1: with all our predictions and prognostications and all the things

1509
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 1: we think need to happen and scenarios that we wish

1510
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 1: would happen. What's your ideal scenario for the Buffalo Buffalo

1511
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 1: Bills quarterback scenarios? It comes up on the horizon and

1512
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:45,639
Speaker 1: we know that's the big story going into training camp.

1513
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:49,599
Speaker 1: You've got Nate Peterman and AJ McCarn splitting one number

1514
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 1: one reps and Josh Allen, who is not going to

1515
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 1: get any that until until he earns it, I would imagine.

1516
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 1: And then how fast does the pressure build to see

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01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 1: more and more of him? And then you got really quickly,

1518
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 1: but you're gonna get it. You're gonna chance to see

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01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 1: him play against NFL teams in the preseason because they're

1520
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 1: notoriously the young guys play a ton and it'll be

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01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 1: interesting to see if they just give Josh Allen three

1522
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 1: quarters of these games and let him develop pretty quickly. Yeah,

1523
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 1: they could do that, and the pressure is going to

1524
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 1: mount because at this point in time, really all fans

1525
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 1: are getting our little snippets of videos on Twitter or

1526
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 1: on the team website on TV stations. Other than that,

1527
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 1: they haven't really been exposed to him. Once training camp

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01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 1: gets started and fans start to see him a little

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01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 1: bit more, see the natural talent come out and be like, whoa,

1530
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 1: We've never seen a guy throw like that before here

1531
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 1: here here in Buffalo, and then they start the grant

1532
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 1: from a grand scale. Fans start to see him in

1533
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 1: these preseason games, there is going to be a lot

1534
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:50,880
Speaker 1: of pressure and the Bills well, but they have to.

1535
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 1: They have to figure out how if they play. If

1536
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 1: he plays well, they'll be pressure. I mean, if he's

1537
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 1: playing and looks great against these other teams and he's

1538
01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 1: throwing the ball well and said, yeah, then there will

1539
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 1: be pressure. But you know, if he you know, if

1540
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 1: he pulls Nathan Peterman throws five picks in his first outing, there,

1541
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna something. Tells me if he's going up against

1542
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 1: the third that ain't gonna happen. Yeah, we're also we're

1543
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 1: getting some feedback on what some other Bills fans want

1544
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 1: to see in the quarterback race. I want to see

1545
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 1: some a J. McCarron. I'm a Bills fan. I'm always

1546
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 1: going to root for the underdog. Really, I want to

1547
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 1: see them all thrive. You know who's the underdog in this,

1548
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 1: it's Nathan Peterman. He's the ultimate underdog. I mean, McCarron

1549
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 1: got signed and he's and he's making a substantial amount

1550
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:33,639
Speaker 1: of money, not not great in the grand scheme of

1551
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks that signed free to the NFL for the

1552
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 1: rest of it's just big money, I mean, but he's

1553
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 1: also making five times what Nathan Peterman is making right now,

1554
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 1: right and Peterman has to come up from what happened

1555
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 1: to him last year or so, I think, I think Peterman, Oh, yeah,

1556
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:51,599
Speaker 1: you're right. But here's the thing with Peterman. I don't

1557
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 1: think the coaching staff holds last year against Peterman. They

1558
01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 1: can't do. I think they. I think they have seen

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01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:01,720
Speaker 1: him practicing dreamly well. And the one thing I see

1560
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:03,680
Speaker 1: from Nate Peterman, and I've heard some other people say,

1561
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 1: you know, Nate Peterman, to me, when he gets into

1562
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 1: a practice as well, he makes all the throws, He's

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01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 1: an accurate thrower, he handles the situation well, he handles

1564
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 1: the huddle well, the guy's rally to I mean, he's

1565
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 1: got all of that stuff. But when when he gets

1566
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 1: into a game, seems to me he needs to take

1567
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 1: a big, deep breath and calm down just a hair.

1568
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 1: I said this need for a lot of young players too. Sure,

1569
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 1: but I said the same thing about a EJ. Manual.

1570
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:31,720
Speaker 1: EJ always looked way different in a game, even in

1571
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 1: just his demeanor is on the field, presence, his body

1572
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 1: language in and out of the huddle, walk into the

1573
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and certainly dropping back. He looked like

1574
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:44,599
Speaker 1: a different human being in a game than he did

1575
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:48,560
Speaker 1: every day in practice because every felt comfortable in that situation.

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01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 1: I think Peterman suffered, not to the extent that EJ did,

1577
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 1: but certainly to a level that I think makes him

1578
01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 1: just a hair different than he is in practice. And

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01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 1: I don't think it's any question. And in practice he's

1580
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:01,599
Speaker 1: been he's been practiced for a year and a half

1581
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 1: really really well, and I think the coaching staff respects that,

1582
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 1: and they're giving him chance after a chance, and in fact,

1583
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:10,680
Speaker 1: they thought it was time in week nine last year.

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01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 1: Well wow, let's just see what he can do, and

1585
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:15,360
Speaker 1: just see if we can catch lightning in a bottle,

1586
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:16,640
Speaker 1: and they and you know, of course, it went the

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01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 1: way it went. But I think there's good reason why

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01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:20,680
Speaker 1: he's still here. I think there's good reason why he's

1589
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 1: still practicing in a combination with A. J. Mccarren for

1590
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 1: the number ones, and I don't think they're done with

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01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 1: him yet. Yeah, there's a lot of different ways to

1592
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 1: slice up this conversation, that's for sure, Because well, you

1593
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:33,560
Speaker 1: can join us at eight oh three five fifty or

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01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 1: one eighty eight five fifty two five fifty, or you

1595
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 1: can tweet at us at one Bill's Live. We're gonna

1596
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:40,760
Speaker 1: take a break on here and we'll be back at

1597
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 1: the top of the hour. At two o'clock. We're gonna

1598
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:47,519
Speaker 1: visit with Phil Savage is coming back in the NFL Insider.

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Live, Joe Biscalia, Steve Tasker.

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01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:09,759
Speaker 1: We're talking about your ideal scenario for the Buffalo Bills

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01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:14,679
Speaker 1: quarterback situation coming out of training camp. We're a month

1603
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 1: away from the start of training camp. We're finding out

1604
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:19,600
Speaker 1: what your best case scenario would be. And you know

1605
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 1: a lot of people would say going for the big Apple.

1606
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 1: They're going, hey, Josh Allen takes it, wins it, and

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01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 1: keeps it for fifteen years. Others say, I'd like to

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01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 1: see AJ McCarron play really well. I think most people

1609
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:33,759
Speaker 1: teeter teeter between saying what they really want to happen

1610
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:35,679
Speaker 1: and what they think is actually going to happen. Yeah,

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01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 1: there's there's also the long term lens that you can

1612
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:41,599
Speaker 1: kind of take on this whole thing, what would benefit

1613
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 1: the organization the most for the long term, because those

1614
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 1: conversations are not always having the same result. I mean,

1615
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:53,840
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, if what's best for him is to sit

1616
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:56,320
Speaker 1: along the side for at least a little bit of time,

1617
01:17:57,600 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 1: if that's what helps him become the player that they

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01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 1: need him to, then that that would probably be the

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01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 1: best way to go about it. Plus the fact it

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01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 1: also might open up the avenue for potential trades down

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01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 1: the line, if McCarron or Peterman is in fact good

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01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 1: enough to where they show the team wants yeah, exactly,

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01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 1: kind of like uh, you know, you know, you see

1624
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 1: situations all over the league where a backup quarterback what

1625
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 1: you would think as a backup quarterback, shows to be

1626
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 1: something a little bit more, and that's the Bills kind

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01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:28,960
Speaker 1: of have that flexibility with them because they've got McCarron

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01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 1: under contract to a very manageable deal into the twenty

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01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 1: nineteen season, and then Peterman's on the books for the

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01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:40,559
Speaker 1: next three years. So there is some opportunity there if

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01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 1: they want to pursue that and if those guys give

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01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 1: them that opportunity to do so. So there is a

1633
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 1: kind of a perfect storm there for that as well.

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01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 1: So we're talking about that. What's your best case scenario

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01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:52,639
Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills quarterback coming out of training camp

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01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 1: eight or three oh five fifty or one eight eight

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01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty. You can join the conversation.

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Speaker 1: We also had this thing come up one of the

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01:18:58,120 --> 01:18:59,560
Speaker 1: guys that we've had on our show once in a

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01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 1: while ago. Even Russell Baxter rights for SI and I

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01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 1: believe it's SI, and some fansided stuff is what as

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01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 1: the website that this article, particular article came up on.

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01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 1: It's one of them. It's the most important bet or

1644
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:19,759
Speaker 1: best under the radar off season addition. So we we

1645
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 1: looked at that and we thought, wow, that's under the radar.

1646
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 1: Because everybody's got a bunch of new guys on their team, right,

1647
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 1: teams pumped their roster up to eighty five guys. The

1648
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:29,720
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills have done it. And we decided we'd look

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01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:32,800
Speaker 1: at what the AFC East teams that Russell Baxter brought up.

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01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:35,639
Speaker 1: And it's pretty interesting because you talk about under the radar,

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01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 1: some of these guys are way under the radar. And

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01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 1: one of them is really interesting to Bills in the

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01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 1: Bills in rations to the Bills because of the New

1654
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 1: England Patriots, and his take was that the most under

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01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 1: the radar acquisition by the Patriots. That was their best.

1656
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 1: One was Jordan Matthews, the Bills receiver from a year ago. Yeah,

1657
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 1: they signed him to a very minor contract in what

1658
01:19:57,320 --> 01:19:59,679
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people were expecting for Jordan Matthews.

1659
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 1: He hit a wall in the off season, and you know,

1660
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 1: I certainly wasn't expecting him to sign for as little

1661
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 1: as he did. Maybe he did that just to get

1662
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:10,600
Speaker 1: the opportunity to play with Tom Brady. But also the

1663
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:13,640
Speaker 1: thing in New England is nothing is guaranteed. Like you

1664
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:15,840
Speaker 1: can sign there, it doesn't mean you're gonna play, it

1665
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're gonna dress. Think about Mike Gillisle last year,

1666
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 1: they signed him to a restricted free agent contract and

1667
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 1: the Bills decided not to match, and you'd sit there

1668
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:26,719
Speaker 1: and you thought to yourself, Okay, well Gillislei's gonna factor

1669
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 1: in strongly. He was inactive more often than not for

1670
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 1: the Patriots because he just didn't fit in well, he

1671
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 1: didn't mesh well with what their vision was. So you know,

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01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 1: George Matthews could. But I think with the Patriots it's

1673
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 1: kind of a dart throw with them because you never

1674
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 1: know how Bill Belichick is going to interact with these guys,

1675
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 1: or how he's going to perceive them, or if something

1676
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:48,679
Speaker 1: might rub him the wrong way, or if these guys

1677
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:51,439
Speaker 1: are actually a good schematic fit for what he wants

1678
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 1: to do. All I know is that Jordan Matthews is

1679
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 1: a low cost addition for them and could he become

1680
01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 1: something solid for them? Yeah, because he is Tom Brady

1681
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 1: as his quarterback, and he is a solid player, is

1682
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:03,640
Speaker 1: a good locker room guy, he's a leader. He's a

1683
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:07,680
Speaker 1: veteran guy who's made himself valuable to some teams. He

1684
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 1: came in last year and as an unknown here in Buffalo,

1685
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 1: had a rough start because he got hurt like fifteen

1686
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 1: minutes into his first training camp that was practice, which

1687
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 1: was amazing because he'd never been hurt. But you're right,

1688
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 1: if he goes to New England, there could be a

1689
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:24,759
Speaker 1: time when for a month straight he would catch eight

1690
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 1: balls a game. He would he'll score a touchdown and

1691
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 1: a half a game, or average to touchdown and a

1692
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 1: half a game, And for fantasy owners, he'd go in

1693
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 1: and do it, and then the next four weeks he

1694
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 1: won't even be active. Right. That's the way the Patriots

1695
01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 1: do business, and that's why they that's the way they

1696
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 1: structure their salaries and that's why. And they tell people

1697
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 1: point blank, you can go there and make a little

1698
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 1: more money, but here you are going to the playoffs,

1699
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:49,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a chance to win a super Bowl.

1700
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:51,640
Speaker 1: And I think that's a big incentive for a lot

1701
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 1: of people. And I don't think there's any question that

1702
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 1: if a guy goes there like a Jordan Matthews, they'll

1703
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:58,240
Speaker 1: do it. But they also want to sign a short

1704
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 1: term deal. They don't want the club to be able

1705
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:03,680
Speaker 1: to say, you're here for as long as we want you.

1706
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 1: They want to be able to maybe go out there

1707
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:07,760
Speaker 1: show what they can do, and then another team maybe

1708
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:10,680
Speaker 1: they get that second contract after And the best case

1709
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 1: scenario we're talking about best case scenarios for Bill's quarterbacks.

1710
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 1: Best case scenario for those guys, Oh yeah, go to

1711
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 1: New England for one year, win a wiring, and then

1712
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:20,960
Speaker 1: sign a huge deal somewhere else and change your life,

1713
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 1: you know, and set yourself up for the rest of

1714
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:24,880
Speaker 1: your life financially, right, And that's the best case scenario. Yeah.

1715
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 1: For Jordan Matthews, that's what he's going to be hoping,

1716
01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 1: hoping for. And the suspension earlier earlier in June to

1717
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:36,880
Speaker 1: to Edelman, I believe he h that that part of

1718
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:40,760
Speaker 1: it is is, you know, it's all interesting because now

1719
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:43,479
Speaker 1: that opens up a potential spot for him, and because

1720
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:45,959
Speaker 1: is Hogan going to play in the slot? Is Matthew's

1721
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 1: going to get a chance here? Is Matthew's even going

1722
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 1: to make the team? Amandola is gone, Yeah, he's down

1723
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:53,600
Speaker 1: in Miami now now. And that's and we so in

1724
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 1: this in this article where they kind of evaluated the

1725
01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 1: acquisitions of all these teams, you know, which one was

1726
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 1: the most the best, under rated or under the radar,

1727
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:04,559
Speaker 1: which didn't make a lot of splash, and one of

1728
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 1: the other ones for the Buffalo Bills, he said, Russell

1729
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 1: Bodine was going to be the kind of the best

1730
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:11,640
Speaker 1: offseason acquisition for them, obviously pointing to the fact that

1731
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:15,720
Speaker 1: Eric Wood had to retire. Bodine is a guy who

1732
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 1: played four straight years for Cincinnati, never missed a start

1733
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:22,439
Speaker 1: for for a pretty good offensive line. Although last year,

1734
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:26,400
Speaker 1: if you look at some of the other websites, Bodine

1735
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:29,839
Speaker 1: had probably his worst year as a starter for the Bengals.

1736
01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 1: His production went way down last year for for whatever reason. Well,

1737
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:36,799
Speaker 1: he has been and I follow writers of an analyst

1738
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:40,559
Speaker 1: of every team, and a lot of the Bengals analysts

1739
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:42,760
Speaker 1: out there sit there and say that he has been

1740
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 1: one of the biggest weaknesses of the offensive line since

1741
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:47,680
Speaker 1: he's since he's entered the league. And and so I

1742
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 1: don't know if I necessarily agree with with that take

1743
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 1: that that he is the best under the under the

1744
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 1: radar offseason edition. I don't even know if he's going

1745
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 1: to win the starting job because I think Ryan Groy

1746
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 1: probably has a pretty significan can shot at at starting

1747
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:04,920
Speaker 1: there for them, and it's it's not a guarantee, but

1748
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:07,400
Speaker 1: but I think Roy is someone that they've looked at

1749
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 1: pretty well. So I don't know. Bodine to me, I

1750
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:12,200
Speaker 1: don't even I don't even know who I would say

1751
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:17,799
Speaker 1: outside of that, maybe Taryn Johnson, the potential nickel corner

1752
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:21,519
Speaker 1: the fourth round pick. I think that might be the

1753
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 1: offseason addition that I would look to that could be

1754
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 1: on the field as much as maybe he could and

1755
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 1: have a positive impact on what they do. Yeah, And

1756
01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 1: as you might expect when these under the radar signings

1757
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 1: come about IM and I'm I'm surprised it wasn't somebody

1758
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 1: like Starlo tu Lele, although that might have been that's

1759
01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 1: not really under the radar, but in retrospect the same article,

1760
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins and the New York Jets, they're best

1761
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 1: under the radar signings. According to this uh Russell Baxter,

1762
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:53,800
Speaker 1: who's been a guest on our show in the past,

1763
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 1: I came Spence, the defensive tackle was the one from Miami.

1764
01:24:57,160 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 1: Came from Detroit, I believe, and the New York Jet.

1765
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 1: It's also a defensive tackle. Nathan Shepherd. Yeah, Nathan Shepherd's

1766
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 1: an interesting guy because he had to step away from

1767
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 1: football for a couple of years out of Fort Hayes

1768
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:09,599
Speaker 1: State to help take care of his family, and he

1769
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:12,559
Speaker 1: was at the Senior Bowl and he's one of these guys.

1770
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 1: I mean, have you ever gone to one of the

1771
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:19,760
Speaker 1: Combine or the Senior Bowl and you see the way

1772
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 1: in portion? Have you ever been there for that? No?

1773
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:24,240
Speaker 1: I mean it is It is one of the weirdest

1774
01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:28,799
Speaker 1: possible things that you could ever see, because it's like, Hey,

1775
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 1: let's trap these guys in their underwear out in front

1776
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 1: of everybody, and everyone's gonna be dead silent, and they're

1777
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna tell off their their measurements and how

1778
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 1: much they weigh, but they also look for body composition.

1779
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:42,759
Speaker 1: And when Nathan Shepherd came through, I mean his body

1780
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 1: composition was exactly what you would expect of an NFL player,

1781
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 1: like just rocked up. I mean he looked the part

1782
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:52,800
Speaker 1: completely and even though he's a little bit older, he's

1783
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 1: got some game to him, has some potential to him,

1784
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:57,599
Speaker 1: I wonder, and he played at a smaller school. I

1785
01:25:57,640 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 1: think he might be a solid rotational player right away.

1786
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 1: I think you could develop into something special for them. Yeah,

1787
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:04,719
Speaker 1: and that's one of the things that you get from

1788
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:10,479
Speaker 1: these um from the combine, from you know these and

1789
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 1: from websites and stuff like that. Plus when you get

1790
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 1: into training camp, it always happens. You'll go out to

1791
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 1: training camp and you you fans out there listening. You

1792
01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:20,320
Speaker 1: can try. You go to training camp. You watch they

1793
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:26,000
Speaker 1: who is that guy? Yeah? Wow right, I mean he's

1794
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:28,040
Speaker 1: one of those guys. I mean you look at that guy.

1795
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:30,600
Speaker 1: He's six four three twenty right, So they look and

1796
01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 1: they look at they look apart and they look you know,

1797
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 1: they look like the movie Men in Black. They're not

1798
01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:37,839
Speaker 1: from this planet. You know, they're so big, so athletic,

1799
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:40,600
Speaker 1: so muscular, so they run so far, and then you

1800
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:42,280
Speaker 1: end up they don't even end up making the team

1801
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:44,400
Speaker 1: for some for whatever reason, you don't even ever really

1802
01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:46,720
Speaker 1: find out. This guy never he never got a chance

1803
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:48,679
Speaker 1: to get on the field. You never saw him take reps.

1804
01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 1: He stands in the background for and there's a million

1805
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:54,479
Speaker 1: reasons why that happens. But those guys all look great,

1806
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:57,120
Speaker 1: they look the part. You think there's absolutely no way

1807
01:26:57,360 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 1: they can't make the team, and they end up not

1808
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:01,800
Speaker 1: making it for variety of reasons, and it's just most

1809
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:03,960
Speaker 1: of it's one of the most amazing things about every

1810
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 1: training camp that you'll ever witness. Yeah, I don't blame you.

1811
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:08,320
Speaker 1: Shephard is gonna is gonna make the team. He was

1812
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 1: a he was a Day two pick for the Jets,

1813
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:12,760
Speaker 1: so he's he's going to be there. But I mean,

1814
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:15,760
Speaker 1: just relating it to who might have that like that

1815
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:18,240
Speaker 1: wow factor for fans that they haven't seen before from

1816
01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:20,800
Speaker 1: a Bill's perspective. The two guys that stand out to

1817
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 1: me Trent Murphy. Trent Murphy's a massive human being. I

1818
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:26,800
Speaker 1: mean he's really tall. He's really tall, He's super long.

1819
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:30,000
Speaker 1: His hands are almost like eleven inches. I mean, I mean,

1820
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:33,280
Speaker 1: ask him to palm a basketball, he might pop it right, Yeah,

1821
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:35,400
Speaker 1: I think I think I catch it with one hand.

1822
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 1: He's one of those wow guys. And then Tremaine Edmunds too.

1823
01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 1: I mean you can kind of see on MSG. You

1824
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:41,720
Speaker 1: can kind of see the hands on the medicine bowl

1825
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 1: right there. He's basically palmbing a medicine ball. But Tremaine

1826
01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 1: Edmonds is another one of those guys. Where are you

1827
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:48,559
Speaker 1: going to see him out on the field kind of

1828
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 1: tower over everybody and be like, WHOA, I didn't I

1829
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:54,880
Speaker 1: knew he was big, but I didn't think he was

1830
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:56,599
Speaker 1: that big. And when you see him in the huddle,

1831
01:27:56,640 --> 01:27:58,600
Speaker 1: that's when it's especially going to stand out. Yeah. So

1832
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 1: what's your best case scenario for Buffalo Bills quarterback situation

1833
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:04,840
Speaker 1: coming out of training camp? In them two months about

1834
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:07,040
Speaker 1: or just under two months they start training camp and

1835
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:08,720
Speaker 1: just under months. We want to know what you think

1836
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:11,439
Speaker 1: is going to happen to the quarterback position or what

1837
01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:14,559
Speaker 1: would you love to happen at the quarterback position. We're

1838
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:18,160
Speaker 1: also talking about some of the AFCAST most under the

1839
01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 1: best under the radar signings by the Bills competitors. If

1840
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 1: you want to get it on the conversation, you can

1841
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:25,600
Speaker 1: call us at eight oh three oh five fifty or

1842
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:28,200
Speaker 1: eighty eight five fifty two five fifty. We've got a

1843
01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:30,640
Speaker 1: couple of calls. Let's talk to and go to Amherst

1844
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 1: and talk to Roy. Roy, you're on one Bill's Live

1845
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 1: with Stephen Joe. Go ahead him, Stephen Joe. I just

1846
01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 1: said our question. This is how I'd like to see it.

1847
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:44,519
Speaker 1: I'd like to see it like AJ mccaron and like

1848
01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:51,360
Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman get the job. And because Josh Allen would

1849
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 1: pick so high. Do you know how they used to

1850
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:56,679
Speaker 1: like if the teams got so far ahead, they would

1851
01:28:57,080 --> 01:29:00,479
Speaker 1: put the quarterback in and get them some rests. Yeah,

1852
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 1: I think Josh Allen along if they if they should

1853
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:11,760
Speaker 1: you choose that Roy, That is an absolutely brilliant take.

1854
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:13,840
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you here's what he wants to happen.

1855
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:17,439
Speaker 1: That's I never thought of that. You want AJ or

1856
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:19,639
Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman to get the job, but then you want

1857
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 1: the Bills to be so good that they're leading every

1858
01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 1: game by multiple touchdowns so that you can put Josh

1859
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:30,599
Speaker 1: Allen in and develop him in game like situations, and

1860
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 1: then next year. Put him in the game for real.

1861
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:34,720
Speaker 1: If only that it were that easy. Wow, wouldn't that

1862
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:37,599
Speaker 1: be nice? That's you know what, that's the best best

1863
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:41,960
Speaker 1: take I've I've heard yet today, even from you and me. Well,

1864
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 1: for Bills fans and and for them, that would be

1865
01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:48,200
Speaker 1: the perfect scenario that they'd But yeah, that's a slice

1866
01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:50,880
Speaker 1: of heaven you're talking about Ray. But you know there,

1867
01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:52,640
Speaker 1: we gotta be a little realistic here, We gotta we

1868
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:55,880
Speaker 1: gotta dial reel it back a little bit. Right. Well,

1869
01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:58,240
Speaker 1: we did say what's your best cake, what's your what's

1870
01:29:58,240 --> 01:30:00,559
Speaker 1: your favorable scenario? I guess here, you know? All right?

1871
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:02,840
Speaker 1: So I mean, all right, we'll give another guy. We

1872
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:05,679
Speaker 1: let's go to Florida. Let's talk to Dan in Florida.

1873
01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:07,920
Speaker 1: And he wants to talk to uh, he wants to

1874
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:10,280
Speaker 1: see that Josh Allen sits for a while. Hey, thanks

1875
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:12,360
Speaker 1: for being on Dan. You're with Joe and Steve on

1876
01:30:12,360 --> 01:30:15,519
Speaker 1: one Bill's Live. Go ahead, Hey Steve, Hey Joe, how

1877
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:17,840
Speaker 1: you doing? Guys doing right? Steve, you already know what

1878
01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:19,800
Speaker 1: I think of you. I've I've blown your head up

1879
01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:22,920
Speaker 1: too big as it is. Hopefully Murph's texted you a

1880
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:25,840
Speaker 1: picture of a big fish that he's gotten. Yes, he has,

1881
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:29,360
Speaker 1: don't mean my person this week? Good, good for him anyway,

1882
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:31,400
Speaker 1: I'll go out and graduate him next week. And he's

1883
01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:35,240
Speaker 1: don't get he's working, but um anyway, Yeah, I think

1884
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:38,640
Speaker 1: the bare minimum for Allen is Winds are by like

1885
01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:40,880
Speaker 1: eight or nine or something like that. Week week nine

1886
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:44,240
Speaker 1: someone somewhere model. I think it's week A, week eight

1887
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:46,439
Speaker 1: or ten. I think the week nine there in they

1888
01:30:46,479 --> 01:30:48,920
Speaker 1: have Monday night football. I think let's see, I've got

1889
01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:51,479
Speaker 1: the about right here. It's right after the right after

1890
01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:56,520
Speaker 1: the Jet game in New York. It's November the eighteenth

1891
01:30:56,680 --> 01:31:00,519
Speaker 1: is the bye week, got it? And I I just

1892
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:02,479
Speaker 1: I don't want to see him. I'd be fine with

1893
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:05,200
Speaker 1: not seeing him at all this year if one of

1894
01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:07,840
Speaker 1: the other two guys that have been brought up, um,

1895
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:10,400
Speaker 1: you know, can play for you well. And you know,

1896
01:31:10,439 --> 01:31:13,160
Speaker 1: I think AJ mccaron's got a great rare opportunity here,

1897
01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 1: and he's got the most NFL experience as well of

1898
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:17,439
Speaker 1: all of them. I know that I've heard all the

1899
01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:20,760
Speaker 1: raving stuff about Peterman and blah blah blah, but you

1900
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:24,000
Speaker 1: know they're all here. He has another year in this offense.

1901
01:31:24,080 --> 01:31:27,559
Speaker 1: Whereas mccaron still learning it, you know. So you know,

1902
01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:29,760
Speaker 1: I hope they all get time in the preseason. I

1903
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:31,960
Speaker 1: hope we get to see them all, and I hope

1904
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:34,439
Speaker 1: theyf you not rush on on the field. Well, I

1905
01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:37,519
Speaker 1: want to see him be successfully for years and years,

1906
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:40,080
Speaker 1: and the best way to do that is to give

1907
01:31:40,120 --> 01:31:44,200
Speaker 1: him time to learn how to play NFL football in

1908
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:47,439
Speaker 1: terms of not looking at the receivers and so on

1909
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:50,439
Speaker 1: and so forth. So that that's just my point, guys.

1910
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:53,600
Speaker 1: And and before I get off the phone, which I

1911
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 1: will in just one second, I just wanted to wish

1912
01:31:55,479 --> 01:31:58,599
Speaker 1: you guys, not only a happy weekend, but if you're

1913
01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:00,680
Speaker 1: taking any time off next week, I happy Fourth of

1914
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:03,200
Speaker 1: July with your family. You all deserve it. Go eat

1915
01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:05,240
Speaker 1: lots of burgers and hot dogs and drink some beer.

1916
01:32:05,479 --> 01:32:07,840
Speaker 1: All right, thanks, I appreciate the well wishes. He's right.

1917
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:09,120
Speaker 1: I mean, one of the things he missed there was

1918
01:32:09,160 --> 01:32:10,800
Speaker 1: the fact that all these guys are in their first

1919
01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:13,479
Speaker 1: year this offense. Peterman's been in, yeah, but this is

1920
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:16,080
Speaker 1: Brian Davis installing an entirely new offense. So they're kind

1921
01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:18,120
Speaker 1: of going from the word go. The only thing difference

1922
01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:21,280
Speaker 1: is Peterman and aj mccarren. We're in about three weeks

1923
01:32:21,320 --> 01:32:23,880
Speaker 1: before Josh Allen arrived. Yeah, we got drafted. See, I

1924
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:27,519
Speaker 1: wonder with what he wants the bills to do, does

1925
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:30,040
Speaker 1: that run the risk at all of you know, sitting

1926
01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:35,080
Speaker 1: him away from action the entire year or whatnot. Does

1927
01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:40,120
Speaker 1: that run the risk of people and perception of fans, media,

1928
01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 1: whatever it be, of them going well, why isn't Josh

1929
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:46,200
Speaker 1: Allen good enough to beat out a J mccaren or

1930
01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:48,920
Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman first at any point of the regular season?

1931
01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 1: Right that it does incur the risk of that, and

1932
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 1: that's what you don't want, and that starts to put

1933
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:56,640
Speaker 1: on undue pressure. So eventually, I think we're going to

1934
01:32:56,640 --> 01:32:59,160
Speaker 1: see Josh Allen this year. I don't know when my

1935
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:02,640
Speaker 1: gut is telling me, like mid October or something like that.

1936
01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:04,240
Speaker 1: But there's also part of me that thinks he could

1937
01:33:04,280 --> 01:33:07,639
Speaker 1: just take the job right away. Maybe maybe Well, coming

1938
01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:10,240
Speaker 1: up at two o'clock, we're gonna talk to former Senior

1939
01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:13,040
Speaker 1: Bowl executive director Phil Savage. He's gonna come on with

1940
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:14,800
Speaker 1: us and we're gonna take a break right now. You

1941
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:17,280
Speaker 1: can get out on the conversation. Call us at eight

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Speaker 1: oh three h five fifty or eighty eight five fifty

1943
01:33:20,320 --> 01:33:22,920
Speaker 1: two five fifty or tweet at US one Bills Live.

1944
01:33:23,479 --> 01:33:25,880
Speaker 1: This is One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive on

1945
01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:42,559
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back from One Bill's Lives. Deep

1946
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:45,400
Speaker 1: Tasker Joe Biscallion. We're talking about the best case scenario

1947
01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:48,240
Speaker 1: for the Bills quarterback situation coming out of camp, which

1948
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:50,760
Speaker 1: begins and just under a month. We're coming up on

1949
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:52,599
Speaker 1: the top of the hour. We're gonna talk to Phil Savage,

1950
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:56,680
Speaker 1: who's the senior former executive director the Senior Bowl. That

1951
01:33:56,840 --> 01:34:00,600
Speaker 1: game we all watch just after the college season and

1952
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:04,160
Speaker 1: the football NFL season gets over. The regular season gets over,

1953
01:34:04,600 --> 01:34:09,040
Speaker 1: happens in January, generally right around the right around the

1954
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:11,880
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, just after the Super Bowl before, just before

1955
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:14,960
Speaker 1: the Super before. Yeah, and uh, he was a former

1956
01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:17,880
Speaker 1: general Cleveland Brown general manager between two thousand and five

1957
01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 1: and two thousand and eight. And he's the current Alabama

1958
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:23,680
Speaker 1: radio analysts for their broadcast of their football team. And

1959
01:34:23,800 --> 01:34:26,600
Speaker 1: we've got a lot of Alabama football players on the

1960
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:29,800
Speaker 1: Bills roster might have to ask him about he's seen, Yeah,

1961
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:33,479
Speaker 1: including one Levi Wallace. That's right, Levi Wallace, who in

1962
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:36,160
Speaker 1: there's a nice article on him um in at Buffalo

1963
01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:38,639
Speaker 1: Bills dot com. His dad and he had a really

1964
01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:42,400
Speaker 1: special relationship and it's it's really good read and mcget

1965
01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:44,680
Speaker 1: and it's one more thing that humanizes these guys. Lets

1966
01:34:44,720 --> 01:34:46,360
Speaker 1: you know, where they're kind of what makes them tick.

1967
01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:48,760
Speaker 1: Levi Wallace is and you read that and it's like wow,

1968
01:34:49,160 --> 01:34:52,000
Speaker 1: you know, it's one of those the typical time of year. Gosh,

1969
01:34:52,040 --> 01:34:55,000
Speaker 1: I hope that guy makes it right. Yeah, there's there's

1970
01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:57,880
Speaker 1: a lot of those types, but Levi Wallace, I mean, yeah,

1971
01:34:58,000 --> 01:35:01,360
Speaker 1: the story on him is zero star recruit, you know,

1972
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:06,040
Speaker 1: zero star, zero star recruit. Quite literally played flag football

1973
01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:08,840
Speaker 1: at Alabama at one point, then started to become a

1974
01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:13,080
Speaker 1: walk on Atabama, finally got a scholarship and and you know,

1975
01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:18,240
Speaker 1: he started games for a dynasty program at down and

1976
01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:20,240
Speaker 1: bad just said, listen, why don't you go walk on?

1977
01:35:20,360 --> 01:35:22,280
Speaker 1: Just go try it, see what you can do. And

1978
01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:25,080
Speaker 1: so they get Yeah, he goes out and walks on

1979
01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:29,200
Speaker 1: at Alabama coming from Arizona too, So he grew up

1980
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 1: in Arizona and there and they're on the MSG. You

1981
01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:34,840
Speaker 1: can see that's that senior day. Nick Saban comes up,

1982
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:38,040
Speaker 1: takes a picture with Levin and his family. He ends

1983
01:35:38,120 --> 01:35:41,120
Speaker 1: up making tackles in big games for this club. I mean,

1984
01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:44,360
Speaker 1: it's just it's just one of those stories that's he

1985
01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:48,479
Speaker 1: shake your head and him wow, yeah, and it's really cool.

1986
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:51,080
Speaker 1: Yeah he um. I think the reason why the Bills

1987
01:35:51,160 --> 01:35:54,080
Speaker 1: like him and even though where he kind of lacks

1988
01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:58,439
Speaker 1: in weight in size, he makes up for because his

1989
01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:02,559
Speaker 1: arms are almost thirty three inches long and that helps

1990
01:36:02,720 --> 01:36:05,760
Speaker 1: a lot in zone coverage because if you're trying to

1991
01:36:05,800 --> 01:36:08,080
Speaker 1: back up really quickly or you need to make up

1992
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:10,800
Speaker 1: ground quickly to try and tip a pass, having that

1993
01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:14,040
Speaker 1: extra inch or half an inch on your arms and

1994
01:36:14,040 --> 01:36:18,599
Speaker 1: your reach can help turn a possible completion into an

1995
01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:22,480
Speaker 1: incompletion or maybe a tipped ball and then into an interception.

1996
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:25,040
Speaker 1: And that's why they value it so highly. And Levi

1997
01:36:25,160 --> 01:36:27,360
Speaker 1: Wallace has that yeah, and we had him on the

1998
01:36:27,400 --> 01:36:31,320
Speaker 1: show and real personable guy and he's typical of the

1999
01:36:31,439 --> 01:36:34,960
Speaker 1: kind of player that this regime is coaching staff really

2000
01:36:35,000 --> 01:36:36,720
Speaker 1: looks for. And I don't know how they do it,

2001
01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:39,280
Speaker 1: whether I don't know how high on the priority list

2002
01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:42,920
Speaker 1: they put that character trade of being a team first guy,

2003
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:47,320
Speaker 1: a kind of unselfish others first time I think I

2004
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:49,800
Speaker 1: must be very high because all the guys I've met

2005
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:53,280
Speaker 1: have exhibited it. And it's interesting too. And I'll tell

2006
01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:55,200
Speaker 1: you this before we go to another break and get

2007
01:36:55,200 --> 01:36:58,280
Speaker 1: to Phil Savage. I get a chance to speak to

2008
01:36:58,280 --> 01:37:01,960
Speaker 1: different groups around the West New York area, and everybody

2009
01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:03,680
Speaker 1: always asked me about the team, how they're gonna be,

2010
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:04,840
Speaker 1: how the Bills are gonna be. And the one thing

2011
01:37:04,840 --> 01:37:06,160
Speaker 1: I always say is this, I don't know how many

2012
01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:07,760
Speaker 1: games are gonna win. None of us know how many

2013
01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:09,559
Speaker 1: games are gonna I don't know how good Josh Allen's

2014
01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:10,920
Speaker 1: gonna be or any of this stuff. But I'll tell

2015
01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:12,960
Speaker 1: you this. When you get to know the guys, the

2016
01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:15,519
Speaker 1: type of guys that they get on this team, even

2017
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:17,560
Speaker 1: the free agents they bring in from Trent Murphy and

2018
01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:20,240
Speaker 1: Starlow two Lelee, the big name guys, to other guys

2019
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:23,000
Speaker 1: like and the free agents they signed like Levi Wallace

2020
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:26,719
Speaker 1: and Robert Foster from Alabama. It is a very very

2021
01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:29,680
Speaker 1: easy team to get behind and cheer four because all

2022
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:33,280
Speaker 1: those guys are in it for each other and for others.

2023
01:37:33,439 --> 01:37:35,120
Speaker 1: I mean, there are a team guys first. And it's

2024
01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:40,879
Speaker 1: been a real, a real refreshing and fun thing to witness.

2025
01:37:41,040 --> 01:37:43,040
Speaker 1: It's been a complete change from what they were two

2026
01:37:43,120 --> 01:37:47,400
Speaker 1: years ago. Hey, with with Rex, I mean, those personalities

2027
01:37:47,439 --> 01:37:50,080
Speaker 1: weren't really highlighted as much. It was it was more

2028
01:37:50,160 --> 01:37:52,839
Speaker 1: in your face, it was more brash, it was more everything.

2029
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:56,360
Speaker 1: And I don't think it's necessarily a coincidence that a

2030
01:37:56,400 --> 01:37:58,120
Speaker 1: lot of those guys that they brought in that maybe

2031
01:37:58,200 --> 01:38:01,400
Speaker 1: had you know, exhibited those personnel are no longer here.

2032
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:04,439
Speaker 1: They've been traded, they've been released, they've been you know,

2033
01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:06,360
Speaker 1: just let let them go on their merry way, and

2034
01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:09,280
Speaker 1: the team gets to the playoffs despite it. That's the

2035
01:38:09,280 --> 01:38:12,120
Speaker 1: amazing thing. All Right, We're gonna take a break. Just

2036
01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:14,120
Speaker 1: coming up just at the top of the our Phil Savage,

2037
01:38:14,120 --> 01:38:16,920
Speaker 1: former Senior Bowl executive director, former Browns general manager, and

2038
01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:20,040
Speaker 1: an Alabama football radio color analysts. You're listening to One

2039
01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:24,280
Speaker 1: Bills Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio Network.

2040
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:39,640
Speaker 1: Bills Radio Network Stories. Update. The NFL has suspended Buccaneers

2041
01:38:39,720 --> 01:38:42,639
Speaker 1: quarterback Jameis Winston for three games for violating the league's

2042
01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:46,720
Speaker 1: personal conduct policy. As a negotiated settlements, Winston will not

2043
01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:50,080
Speaker 1: appeal the decision. The Bucks currently have Ryan Fitzpatrick and

2044
01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:53,200
Speaker 1: Ryan Griffin as their other quarterbacks on the roster. To hockey,

2045
01:38:53,280 --> 01:38:56,559
Speaker 1: rumors continue to squirrel that upcoming free agent Carter Hutton

2046
01:38:57,280 --> 01:39:00,879
Speaker 1: is headed to Buffalo when free agency gets underway on Sunday.

2047
01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:05,040
Speaker 1: The Blues goaltender put up a seventeen seven and seventeen

2048
01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:07,320
Speaker 1: and seven record in the thirty two games last season

2049
01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:09,960
Speaker 1: that he played that included a two point z nine

2050
01:39:10,040 --> 01:39:13,479
Speaker 1: goals against and a nine thirty one save percentage. The

2051
01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:16,000
Speaker 1: Sabers in need of a netminder after they announced that

2052
01:39:16,040 --> 01:39:19,439
Speaker 1: they will not be bringing back Robin Lennar on the ice.

2053
01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:22,160
Speaker 1: The Sabers rolling on with their development camp at Harbor

2054
01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:25,360
Speaker 1: Center Downtown. They'll wrap up their prospect camp with the

2055
01:39:25,439 --> 01:39:30,280
Speaker 1: annual three on three French Connection tournaments Saturday afternoon. NBA

2056
01:39:30,439 --> 01:39:34,240
Speaker 1: Lebron James officially declines his player option with the Cavaliers,

2057
01:39:34,280 --> 01:39:37,280
Speaker 1: officially becoming a free agent, turning down a thirty five

2058
01:39:37,400 --> 01:39:41,759
Speaker 1: point six million dollars salary for the twenty eighteen nineteen season.

2059
01:39:42,200 --> 01:39:44,880
Speaker 1: James can now sign with any team, that of course,

2060
01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:48,720
Speaker 1: includes the option of resigning with the Cleveland Cavaliers. A

2061
01:39:48,840 --> 01:39:51,800
Speaker 1: solid sixteen days into the World Cup, sixteen teams remain,

2062
01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:55,439
Speaker 1: but today is the first day without a game. Group

2063
01:39:55,520 --> 01:39:58,640
Speaker 1: stage is now over, with a knockout round getting underway.

2064
01:39:58,760 --> 01:40:03,479
Speaker 1: On Saturday. Baseball, the Bisons ripped off three straight wins

2065
01:40:03,479 --> 01:40:06,559
Speaker 1: over the Pawtucket Red Sox to end their seven game

2066
01:40:06,600 --> 01:40:09,000
Speaker 1: homestand the Herd now on the road down the Three

2067
01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:11,320
Speaker 1: Way in Syracuse. The two teams begin a three game

2068
01:40:11,439 --> 01:40:14,120
Speaker 1: set starting tonight at seven o five. That is your

2069
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:18,400
Speaker 1: sports update. We are pleased to be joined now by

2070
01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:21,800
Speaker 1: the former director executive director of the Senior Bowl, former

2071
01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:25,559
Speaker 1: Browns general manager, and the Alabama football radio color analyst,

2072
01:40:25,640 --> 01:40:29,320
Speaker 1: Phil Savage, Phil Steve Tasker, Joe Biscalia. Thanks for coming

2073
01:40:29,320 --> 01:40:32,679
Speaker 1: on to One Bills Live. We appreciate it. Aw you welcome, guys.

2074
01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:34,960
Speaker 1: Hope you're doing well. Thank you, We are doing well.

2075
01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:38,080
Speaker 1: You know you left the Senior Bowl after really you

2076
01:40:38,160 --> 01:40:40,679
Speaker 1: gotta be pleased with the legacy you left behind there

2077
01:40:41,320 --> 01:40:43,559
Speaker 1: in Birmingham with the Senior Bowl has really become the

2078
01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:48,040
Speaker 1: centerpiece of the offseason the NFL. Well, I tell you know,

2079
01:40:48,080 --> 01:40:51,080
Speaker 1: as a native of Mobile, I've gone to that game

2080
01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:54,160
Speaker 1: since I was a child, and I remember seeing Shutton

2081
01:40:54,200 --> 01:40:57,040
Speaker 1: Ole and Don Shula and Bum Phillips and all those

2082
01:40:57,040 --> 01:41:01,280
Speaker 1: coaches from the seventies being at those cracks, and you know,

2083
01:41:01,320 --> 01:41:03,400
Speaker 1: when I had the chance to come back home, so

2084
01:41:03,439 --> 01:41:06,559
Speaker 1: to speak, in June of twelve, felt like we would

2085
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:08,920
Speaker 1: be able to do some things with the game and

2086
01:41:09,000 --> 01:41:13,519
Speaker 1: elevate its profile and just make it a really good

2087
01:41:13,640 --> 01:41:17,280
Speaker 1: quality experience for the players that elected to participate. And

2088
01:41:17,720 --> 01:41:19,400
Speaker 1: I think we were really able to do a lot

2089
01:41:19,400 --> 01:41:21,840
Speaker 1: of those things. And I'll be honest, as I was

2090
01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:24,679
Speaker 1: sitting there at at and T Stadium for the draft

2091
01:41:25,320 --> 01:41:28,040
Speaker 1: at the end of April, and Baker Mayfield went off

2092
01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:30,519
Speaker 1: number one, and then Josh Allen comes to you guys

2093
01:41:30,520 --> 01:41:32,880
Speaker 1: at number seven, and that was the first time the

2094
01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:35,240
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl had two quarterbacks in the top ten since

2095
01:41:35,320 --> 01:41:38,600
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five. And as I was sitting there and

2096
01:41:38,680 --> 01:41:42,439
Speaker 1: knowing that there was another opportunity maybe down the line

2097
01:41:42,520 --> 01:41:45,400
Speaker 1: with the Alliance League, the Alliances of American Football, I'm like,

2098
01:41:45,400 --> 01:41:47,000
Speaker 1: I'm not sure we can do much better than this.

2099
01:41:47,160 --> 01:41:49,920
Speaker 1: So it was a good time to step away and

2100
01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:53,920
Speaker 1: try something different. Yeah, I said, Birmingham, it isn't mobile,

2101
01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:57,720
Speaker 1: and it really has become. He really did elevate the

2102
01:41:57,760 --> 01:42:01,519
Speaker 1: status of that game and really if you wanted, there's

2103
01:42:01,520 --> 01:42:03,400
Speaker 1: a couple of guys on the Buffalo Bills. I we're

2104
01:42:03,439 --> 01:42:04,800
Speaker 1: up here in western New York. A couple of guys

2105
01:42:04,840 --> 01:42:07,240
Speaker 1: on the Buffalo Bills roster of course that played in

2106
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:10,040
Speaker 1: that or Josh Allen, Harrison, Phillips, White Teller. You scouted

2107
01:42:10,080 --> 01:42:12,360
Speaker 1: all those guys down there, and it really has become

2108
01:42:12,360 --> 01:42:17,519
Speaker 1: a who's who of what's coming up in the NFL Draft. Well, definitely,

2109
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:22,120
Speaker 1: we're the two football worlds collide, the college game and

2110
01:42:22,160 --> 01:42:24,080
Speaker 1: the pro game. And you know, it was in about

2111
01:42:24,120 --> 01:42:26,240
Speaker 1: a former block area. You guys have been here and

2112
01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:29,280
Speaker 1: know that. You know, you got over a thousand NFL

2113
01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:31,360
Speaker 1: people and then a lot of the head coaches from

2114
01:42:31,360 --> 01:42:34,479
Speaker 1: the college game will visit for a day to check

2115
01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:37,879
Speaker 1: in on their players, and you know, of course everyone

2116
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:41,200
Speaker 1: watches the practices for those that are really into the

2117
01:42:41,320 --> 01:42:46,360
Speaker 1: draft on the NFL network and and ESPN, and you know,

2118
01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:48,439
Speaker 1: we just we just got so much coverage and we

2119
01:42:48,479 --> 01:42:51,880
Speaker 1: had over six hundred media members in mobile from across

2120
01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:55,519
Speaker 1: the country, and uh, it just it was it was

2121
01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:58,760
Speaker 1: really a successful game this year. And of course we

2122
01:42:58,840 --> 01:43:00,840
Speaker 1: ended up with eighties. I think it was eighty four,

2123
01:43:01,040 --> 01:43:05,240
Speaker 1: eighty five total drafted players. And you know, I will

2124
01:43:05,320 --> 01:43:08,960
Speaker 1: tell you this quick story. So while we got Josh

2125
01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:12,599
Speaker 1: Allen and Baker Mayfield and a number of other top

2126
01:43:12,680 --> 01:43:15,599
Speaker 1: quality players, we had thirty one seniors this year decide

2127
01:43:15,640 --> 01:43:18,280
Speaker 1: not to play in our game. And you combine that

2128
01:43:18,560 --> 01:43:21,280
Speaker 1: with the hundred and six juniors that came out and

2129
01:43:21,479 --> 01:43:25,320
Speaker 1: seventy of those got drafted, that's three rounds of players

2130
01:43:25,400 --> 01:43:27,640
Speaker 1: that we couldn't get our hands on this year. And

2131
01:43:27,680 --> 01:43:30,240
Speaker 1: so for us to have eighty five guys picking again,

2132
01:43:31,320 --> 01:43:33,439
Speaker 1: I was really a great job by the staff and

2133
01:43:33,479 --> 01:43:35,240
Speaker 1: a lot of the guys that helped me throughout the

2134
01:43:35,360 --> 01:43:39,000
Speaker 1: year in trying to evaluate all these prospects. So, Phil,

2135
01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:42,920
Speaker 1: what about your new opportunity that made you feel like

2136
01:43:43,160 --> 01:43:45,800
Speaker 1: the time was right to do it and what makes

2137
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:49,599
Speaker 1: you excited about about your new opportunity. Well, of course

2138
01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:52,080
Speaker 1: we're talking about the Alliance of American Football, and I

2139
01:43:52,120 --> 01:43:55,559
Speaker 1: think when you're talking about sports or business, you always

2140
01:43:55,600 --> 01:43:58,680
Speaker 1: have to start with the people and the people at

2141
01:43:58,680 --> 01:44:03,799
Speaker 1: the top of this organization or Charlie Eversol, Bill Polian

2142
01:44:03,880 --> 01:44:07,679
Speaker 1: who you know well, and JK. McKay, and they've had

2143
01:44:07,760 --> 01:44:10,880
Speaker 1: this vision and thoughts and ideas for probably a year

2144
01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:13,400
Speaker 1: and a half or so from what we understand. And

2145
01:44:13,439 --> 01:44:16,120
Speaker 1: then finally over the winter and spring, Bill really began

2146
01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:19,680
Speaker 1: to reach out to people in the football world about

2147
01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:23,360
Speaker 1: you joining the Alliance. And so when a Hall of

2148
01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:26,360
Speaker 1: Fame GM calls you or pulls you to the side

2149
01:44:26,680 --> 01:44:28,559
Speaker 1: and says, hey, I want you to be one of

2150
01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:31,719
Speaker 1: my guys in this league, got to sit up straight

2151
01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:34,759
Speaker 1: and pay attention. And I do think that the league

2152
01:44:34,760 --> 01:44:38,360
Speaker 1: can be successful for from a football standpoint, for three reasons.

2153
01:44:38,439 --> 01:44:41,240
Speaker 1: Number one, the leadership at the talk. Number two, the

2154
01:44:41,320 --> 01:44:46,439
Speaker 1: timeline for this spring league is absolutely perfect. It's going

2155
01:44:46,479 --> 01:44:49,599
Speaker 1: to start the week after the Super Bowl, first regular

2156
01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:51,960
Speaker 1: season game. It will end in the regular seasons the

2157
01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:55,680
Speaker 1: middle of April. So a player that comes there or

2158
01:44:55,720 --> 01:44:59,320
Speaker 1: comes to one of our teams can actually play, improve

2159
01:44:59,439 --> 01:45:06,880
Speaker 1: it his skill, develop further emotionally physically, and then go

2160
01:45:07,160 --> 01:45:10,519
Speaker 1: back to the NFL for another crack at it in

2161
01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:13,040
Speaker 1: May and not miss any of the OTAs as the

2162
01:45:13,080 --> 01:45:16,760
Speaker 1: mini camps. And see, that was the problem with NFL Europe. Ultimately,

2163
01:45:16,840 --> 01:45:19,800
Speaker 1: their timeline was off because you'd send players over there,

2164
01:45:20,120 --> 01:45:22,280
Speaker 1: but then you wouldn't get them back until July, and

2165
01:45:22,320 --> 01:45:24,479
Speaker 1: by that time they were worn out A and then

2166
01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:27,600
Speaker 1: B they had missed all the installations during the springtime

2167
01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:29,960
Speaker 1: with your own teams. So you know, the leadership at

2168
01:45:29,960 --> 01:45:33,440
Speaker 1: the top the timeline. And then to me, there absolutely

2169
01:45:33,560 --> 01:45:37,400
Speaker 1: is a niche for prospects that we're not quite ready

2170
01:45:37,479 --> 01:45:40,160
Speaker 1: the first time through when they tried to go make

2171
01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:42,680
Speaker 1: an NFL team as a draft pick or an unsigned

2172
01:45:43,160 --> 01:45:45,479
Speaker 1: or an undrafted free agent. And here's the reason why

2173
01:45:45,960 --> 01:45:52,320
Speaker 1: high school football practices limited, college football practices limited CBA,

2174
01:45:52,479 --> 01:45:57,000
Speaker 1: and now NFL football practices or limited. And so there

2175
01:45:57,000 --> 01:45:59,000
Speaker 1: are a lot of kids that are trying to make

2176
01:45:59,080 --> 01:46:02,880
Speaker 1: that transition from college to pro that simply just aren't

2177
01:46:03,120 --> 01:46:06,559
Speaker 1: ready yet. They need more incubation time, they need more coaching,

2178
01:46:06,840 --> 01:46:10,479
Speaker 1: they need more experience in game action, and this league's

2179
01:46:10,520 --> 01:46:12,280
Speaker 1: going to give them that. So I think there's gonna

2180
01:46:12,320 --> 01:46:14,800
Speaker 1: be some real successfullys that come out of it. How

2181
01:46:14,800 --> 01:46:18,479
Speaker 1: many teams, how many week, how many weeks of the season,

2182
01:46:19,479 --> 01:46:21,479
Speaker 1: you know, how many how big is the roster, how

2183
01:46:21,479 --> 01:46:23,960
Speaker 1: close the NFL is it going to be, how many

2184
01:46:24,040 --> 01:46:26,559
Speaker 1: players is it going to take to make it float?

2185
01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:29,120
Speaker 1: And how much turnover will they be year to year

2186
01:46:29,400 --> 01:46:32,160
Speaker 1: year to years. Well, I think, first of all, there's

2187
01:46:32,200 --> 01:46:35,639
Speaker 1: gonna be eight teams. They've announced all eight cities from

2188
01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:40,919
Speaker 1: Orlando to Atlanta, Birmingham, Memphis, and then out west San Antonio, Phoenix,

2189
01:46:41,560 --> 01:46:44,080
Speaker 1: Salt Lake City in San Diego. So those of your

2190
01:46:44,120 --> 01:46:49,240
Speaker 1: eight initial franchises. We are working through all the details

2191
01:46:49,240 --> 01:46:52,720
Speaker 1: as far as roster sizes and all those sorts of things.

2192
01:46:52,720 --> 01:46:55,280
Speaker 1: There will be some similarities of the NFL, but there

2193
01:46:55,280 --> 01:46:58,479
Speaker 1: will be some differences right off the top, no kickoff

2194
01:46:59,320 --> 01:47:03,960
Speaker 1: in this league, no point after touchdown, extra points. It

2195
01:47:04,040 --> 01:47:06,439
Speaker 1: is all going to be go for two. Now. You

2196
01:47:07,439 --> 01:47:10,880
Speaker 1: can kick field goals, you can return punch, you can

2197
01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:13,760
Speaker 1: fake punks, but there will be no kickoff and no

2198
01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:17,120
Speaker 1: extra points in this league. The games are going to

2199
01:47:17,160 --> 01:47:19,439
Speaker 1: last two and a half hours. Is going to be

2200
01:47:19,600 --> 01:47:23,960
Speaker 1: very limited commercials on the televised games, which will be

2201
01:47:23,960 --> 01:47:27,519
Speaker 1: carried by CBS, and so they want it to be

2202
01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:30,600
Speaker 1: fast paced, they want it to be action oriented. And

2203
01:47:31,040 --> 01:47:35,320
Speaker 1: you know, this whole alliance theme is between the players,

2204
01:47:35,800 --> 01:47:40,080
Speaker 1: the fans and the game, and they are going to

2205
01:47:40,200 --> 01:47:44,040
Speaker 1: roll out some incredible things for the fans in regards

2206
01:47:44,080 --> 01:47:48,600
Speaker 1: to fantasy football, I'm assuming also in terms of the

2207
01:47:48,680 --> 01:47:52,080
Speaker 1: gaming that has now been legislated in a lot of

2208
01:47:52,080 --> 01:47:55,640
Speaker 1: the states across the country. And so the idea is

2209
01:47:55,720 --> 01:47:58,320
Speaker 1: that one hundred and fifty million people watch the Super Bowl,

2210
01:47:58,600 --> 01:48:01,519
Speaker 1: and about half of them turn when they turn that

2211
01:48:01,600 --> 01:48:04,320
Speaker 1: game off, they don't turn their TVs on again to

2212
01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:07,559
Speaker 1: watch football until August, and they believe that they can

2213
01:48:07,720 --> 01:48:10,760
Speaker 1: capture a large portion of that audience in the ten

2214
01:48:10,800 --> 01:48:13,559
Speaker 1: weeks schedule. It'll take place from February ninth to the

2215
01:48:13,560 --> 01:48:16,439
Speaker 1: middle of April. We're speaking to Phil Savage, former Senior

2216
01:48:16,479 --> 01:48:19,839
Speaker 1: Bowl executive director, form Its Browns general manager Alabama football

2217
01:48:19,920 --> 01:48:22,480
Speaker 1: radio color analyst and also now a part of the

2218
01:48:22,479 --> 01:48:25,920
Speaker 1: Alliance of American Football, which is gonna get underway, And

2219
01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:31,360
Speaker 1: is it gonna be this coming year? Phil, It is happening.

2220
01:48:31,400 --> 01:48:36,400
Speaker 1: We just got out of two days of marathon meetings.

2221
01:48:36,439 --> 01:48:39,200
Speaker 1: They called it our GM Summit. We think we have

2222
01:48:39,280 --> 01:48:41,920
Speaker 1: a lot of things now in line and in order

2223
01:48:42,520 --> 01:48:46,920
Speaker 1: to get going, and so yeah, we're going this year.

2224
01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:49,000
Speaker 1: And of course there's some talk about other leagues that

2225
01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:54,360
Speaker 1: may potentially start in February of twenty twenty, but we

2226
01:48:54,479 --> 01:48:58,000
Speaker 1: are dead set on kicking off February ninth of twenty nineteen.

2227
01:48:58,120 --> 01:48:59,720
Speaker 1: So it's going to happen this year. When are you

2228
01:48:59,800 --> 01:49:02,160
Speaker 1: gonna starts signing players? When is that going to be possible?

2229
01:49:04,080 --> 01:49:07,719
Speaker 1: I would say as soon as July first, you'll probably

2230
01:49:07,760 --> 01:49:12,360
Speaker 1: start seeing some activity in that regard. Now, the reality

2231
01:49:12,439 --> 01:49:16,160
Speaker 1: of it is is that there are ninety players on

2232
01:49:16,360 --> 01:49:19,200
Speaker 1: NFL rosters right now. We know that that number will

2233
01:49:19,520 --> 01:49:22,360
Speaker 1: be reduced about sixty five when it goes to the

2234
01:49:22,400 --> 01:49:25,120
Speaker 1: fifty three man roster, ten on a practice squad, and

2235
01:49:25,120 --> 01:49:28,920
Speaker 1: a handfull I are And the idea I really believe

2236
01:49:29,080 --> 01:49:31,519
Speaker 1: is that eighty to not I'm just guessing I've had

2237
01:49:31,560 --> 01:49:34,519
Speaker 1: eighty to ninety percent of the players that end up

2238
01:49:34,520 --> 01:49:38,240
Speaker 1: in the Alliance are all currently on NFL rosters. You're

2239
01:49:38,280 --> 01:49:42,160
Speaker 1: talking about that sixty fifth to ninetieth man. That's going

2240
01:49:42,640 --> 01:49:44,760
Speaker 1: to be the players that we try to capture and

2241
01:49:45,479 --> 01:49:48,840
Speaker 1: bring to the Alliance, because that's that next that's that

2242
01:49:49,080 --> 01:49:52,760
Speaker 1: next tier down from quote the big boys. That just

2243
01:49:52,840 --> 01:49:55,679
Speaker 1: needs a little bit more time, more development, a little

2244
01:49:55,680 --> 01:49:59,160
Speaker 1: more seasoning. And again, I think there's going to be

2245
01:49:59,200 --> 01:50:03,240
Speaker 1: a real folk. It's a quarterback play, offensive line play,

2246
01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:06,160
Speaker 1: and at least in my opinion, defensive backplay as well.

2247
01:50:06,160 --> 01:50:08,280
Speaker 1: I think those are three areas where this league can

2248
01:50:08,320 --> 01:50:11,080
Speaker 1: really make a big difference for guys trying to get

2249
01:50:11,120 --> 01:50:14,720
Speaker 1: back to the NFL. Hey, Phil, you also spend some

2250
01:50:14,800 --> 01:50:20,120
Speaker 1: time as the Alabama color analyst. Now, the Bills obviously

2251
01:50:20,240 --> 01:50:23,280
Speaker 1: have some Abama players here, as most NFL teams do

2252
01:50:23,360 --> 01:50:27,200
Speaker 1: for that matter. What AJ McCarron is kind of a

2253
01:50:27,600 --> 01:50:30,559
Speaker 1: new thing around here. He's only had the four starts

2254
01:50:30,720 --> 01:50:33,679
Speaker 1: at the NFL level. What can you speak to Aj?

2255
01:50:33,960 --> 01:50:36,280
Speaker 1: The type of player is, maybe the type of person

2256
01:50:36,320 --> 01:50:39,600
Speaker 1: he is from from just a leadership standpoint, and what

2257
01:50:39,840 --> 01:50:42,920
Speaker 1: are the Bills really getting in him? Well? I think,

2258
01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:46,560
Speaker 1: you know, AJ in some ways was sort of mischaracterized

2259
01:50:46,600 --> 01:50:49,360
Speaker 1: when he was at Alabama. You know, the team has

2260
01:50:49,360 --> 01:50:52,200
Speaker 1: been so strong that most people just have this opinion

2261
01:50:52,240 --> 01:50:55,360
Speaker 1: that the quarterback is just the caretaker, and AJ was

2262
01:50:55,479 --> 01:50:59,280
Speaker 1: much more than that for Alabama. He had several really

2263
01:50:59,320 --> 01:51:02,759
Speaker 1: big games, National Championship Game in twenty eleven when Alabama

2264
01:51:02,840 --> 01:51:05,240
Speaker 1: bd LSU when the rematching is the MVD of the

2265
01:51:05,240 --> 01:51:07,800
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I mean, he played lights out that night

2266
01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:11,720
Speaker 1: and Bama through the football. And so he's essentially the

2267
01:51:11,760 --> 01:51:15,400
Speaker 1: all time leading pastor from the school that includes you know,

2268
01:51:15,520 --> 01:51:18,960
Speaker 1: Kenny Saber and Joe Namath and Richard Todd and guys

2269
01:51:18,960 --> 01:51:23,280
Speaker 1: like that. So he's a he's a quality player. This

2270
01:51:23,400 --> 01:51:26,439
Speaker 1: is a huge opportunity for AJ because not only is

2271
01:51:26,439 --> 01:51:29,840
Speaker 1: he trying to help the Buffalo Bills win games, but

2272
01:51:29,920 --> 01:51:33,160
Speaker 1: he's really auditioning for the rest of the league because

2273
01:51:33,160 --> 01:51:36,600
Speaker 1: of the presence of Josh Allen and what he represents

2274
01:51:36,680 --> 01:51:39,559
Speaker 1: long term for the Bills. So this is a big

2275
01:51:39,640 --> 01:51:43,080
Speaker 1: year for AJ. He's got hight, he's got a good

2276
01:51:43,160 --> 01:51:48,240
Speaker 1: enough on his mobility isn't is good enough. But what

2277
01:51:48,360 --> 01:51:50,640
Speaker 1: he really is is a student of the game. He

2278
01:51:50,720 --> 01:51:54,479
Speaker 1: understand he'll understand what they're trying to do offensively, and

2279
01:51:55,040 --> 01:51:57,479
Speaker 1: he's a he's a he's a guy that knows how

2280
01:51:57,520 --> 01:51:59,599
Speaker 1: to execute an offense. You know, in his younger day,

2281
01:52:00,479 --> 01:52:03,280
Speaker 1: Jim mcawane was his offensive coordinator at Baman and he said,

2282
01:52:03,320 --> 01:52:05,000
Speaker 1: you know, with AJ, you have to kind of hold

2283
01:52:05,040 --> 01:52:07,160
Speaker 1: him back because he's wanting to go one hundred miles

2284
01:52:07,160 --> 01:52:10,519
Speaker 1: an hour. And that's kind of interesting to me because

2285
01:52:10,560 --> 01:52:14,520
Speaker 1: most people nationally thought that, you know, Bama was very conservative,

2286
01:52:14,520 --> 01:52:17,640
Speaker 1: but they really aren't. They play a lot of formations,

2287
01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:21,439
Speaker 1: a lot of personnel grouping. He's had some extra seasons

2288
01:52:21,479 --> 01:52:25,880
Speaker 1: in the NFL knowing what the weekly demands will be,

2289
01:52:26,080 --> 01:52:29,080
Speaker 1: so I think he'll do. I think Hugh will be

2290
01:52:29,160 --> 01:52:34,000
Speaker 1: a very capable, capable you know. I hesitate to use

2291
01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:36,400
Speaker 1: the word bridge starter because that means there's sort of

2292
01:52:36,439 --> 01:52:38,880
Speaker 1: an endgame to this, and who knows, but I do

2293
01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:42,880
Speaker 1: think he's a functional starter in the NFL, especially if

2294
01:52:42,880 --> 01:52:46,000
Speaker 1: he has some good people around it. And going on

2295
01:52:46,040 --> 01:52:50,000
Speaker 1: with Phil Savage, Alabama football radio color analysts, and we're

2296
01:52:50,000 --> 01:52:52,120
Speaker 1: talking about some of the Buffalo Bills who happened to

2297
01:52:52,160 --> 01:52:54,880
Speaker 1: play for Alabama this last season. We got two guys

2298
01:52:54,920 --> 01:52:56,800
Speaker 1: that are a little bit under the radar. We've got

2299
01:52:56,960 --> 01:52:59,559
Speaker 1: Levi Wallace who's a cornerback who started his career at

2300
01:52:59,560 --> 01:53:02,400
Speaker 1: Alabama was a walk on, was playing flag football on campus.

2301
01:53:02,400 --> 01:53:05,679
Speaker 1: And of course Robert Foster the wide receiver, talk about

2302
01:53:05,960 --> 01:53:08,479
Speaker 1: let's to start with Wallace the corner. It's a great

2303
01:53:08,560 --> 01:53:11,200
Speaker 1: story to hear, you know, how a guy who played

2304
01:53:11,200 --> 01:53:13,680
Speaker 1: flag football decided he wanted to walk on because his

2305
01:53:13,760 --> 01:53:16,160
Speaker 1: dad says, listen, you're good enough athlete, give it a shot,

2306
01:53:16,200 --> 01:53:20,320
Speaker 1: and he ends up playing significant time for the Crimson Tide. Yeah,

2307
01:53:20,439 --> 01:53:22,519
Speaker 1: let me give you the backstory on that. Okay, So

2308
01:53:23,120 --> 01:53:27,919
Speaker 1: Levi walks on and look, walk on don't become starters

2309
01:53:27,920 --> 01:53:31,960
Speaker 1: at Alabama, not in this Nick Saban era. I mean,

2310
01:53:32,240 --> 01:53:35,559
Speaker 1: those are all four and five star recruits that get

2311
01:53:35,640 --> 01:53:39,200
Speaker 1: developed and walk on just typically don't even make it

2312
01:53:39,240 --> 01:53:42,040
Speaker 1: to the three D. And the point of the story

2313
01:53:42,160 --> 01:53:45,680
Speaker 1: is this year, because of the number of juniors that

2314
01:53:45,760 --> 01:53:49,280
Speaker 1: have left the program at the cornerback position, Bamma was

2315
01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:51,960
Speaker 1: a bit thin at that spot, and in the first game,

2316
01:53:52,920 --> 01:53:55,599
Speaker 1: one of the younger corners that they wanted to play

2317
01:53:55,800 --> 01:53:59,280
Speaker 1: just was not quite ready for prime time. And Levi

2318
01:53:59,520 --> 01:54:02,760
Speaker 1: Wallace stepped in at that left corner effect spot, and

2319
01:54:02,800 --> 01:54:05,000
Speaker 1: I'm telling you guys, he was the MVP of the

2320
01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:07,320
Speaker 1: Bama defense for the first seven or eight games of

2321
01:54:07,320 --> 01:54:10,439
Speaker 1: the year because without him, they could not do what

2322
01:54:10,520 --> 01:54:14,599
Speaker 1: they wanted to do defensively, without a veteran on the

2323
01:54:14,640 --> 01:54:17,559
Speaker 1: field that knows what to do, and Levi brings that

2324
01:54:17,640 --> 01:54:20,439
Speaker 1: to the table. I don't know if he's going to

2325
01:54:20,640 --> 01:54:23,280
Speaker 1: run fast up and he's measurable. That's the reason he

2326
01:54:23,320 --> 01:54:26,920
Speaker 1: was a walk on. He doesn't have the perfect measurables

2327
01:54:26,920 --> 01:54:31,280
Speaker 1: that Bama typically recruits, but he really has an intinctive

2328
01:54:31,400 --> 01:54:34,800
Speaker 1: nature about the game and he was one of Nick

2329
01:54:34,840 --> 01:54:39,200
Speaker 1: Saban's most coachable players over these last nine years. I

2330
01:54:39,200 --> 01:54:43,640
Speaker 1: would say that now with Rock with Robert Foster, this

2331
01:54:43,800 --> 01:54:46,640
Speaker 1: is a speed merchant. He's from a knocka Pennsylvania, was

2332
01:54:46,680 --> 01:54:50,320
Speaker 1: a big time recruit. He got hurt in twenty fifteen

2333
01:54:50,320 --> 01:54:54,240
Speaker 1: with the shoulder and never really kind of gained his

2334
01:54:54,360 --> 01:54:56,720
Speaker 1: traction back as a starter. He was more of a

2335
01:54:56,800 --> 01:54:59,800
Speaker 1: spot player. If he started, he was in a rotation

2336
01:55:00,200 --> 01:55:03,200
Speaker 1: following what I'm saying. So he doesn't have big numbers,

2337
01:55:03,240 --> 01:55:07,200
Speaker 1: but he can absolutely fly. And for a guy that

2338
01:55:07,600 --> 01:55:10,560
Speaker 1: perhaps could knock the top off the defense, I would

2339
01:55:10,600 --> 01:55:12,920
Speaker 1: suspect that the Bills would really want to try to

2340
01:55:12,960 --> 01:55:15,640
Speaker 1: work with him, you know, through the training camp and

2341
01:55:15,680 --> 01:55:18,879
Speaker 1: perhaps during the season and see how far his talents

2342
01:55:18,920 --> 01:55:21,520
Speaker 1: can take him, because he absolutely he's got height, weight,

2343
01:55:21,560 --> 01:55:25,280
Speaker 1: and speed and he can run. Phil Savage, former GM

2344
01:55:25,280 --> 01:55:27,120
Speaker 1: of the National Football League, talking about some of the

2345
01:55:27,160 --> 01:55:29,520
Speaker 1: Alabama players that have landed on the Bill's roster, do

2346
01:55:29,520 --> 01:55:33,000
Speaker 1: you have if you take Levi Wallace and Robert Foster,

2347
01:55:33,120 --> 01:55:35,080
Speaker 1: do you think one of them has a better chance

2348
01:55:35,120 --> 01:55:37,640
Speaker 1: than the other to maybe stick. I mean, it seems

2349
01:55:37,640 --> 01:55:39,760
Speaker 1: as though Wallace looks like one of those guys you

2350
01:55:39,800 --> 01:55:42,360
Speaker 1: never want to bet against. And and yet a guy

2351
01:55:42,360 --> 01:55:45,120
Speaker 1: like Robert Foster, the fact that he can run always

2352
01:55:45,160 --> 01:55:48,200
Speaker 1: kind of sets those guys apart. Do you think either

2353
01:55:48,240 --> 01:55:49,840
Speaker 1: one of those is going to be the make or

2354
01:55:49,880 --> 01:55:52,200
Speaker 1: break characteristic that gives him a chance to make it?

2355
01:55:53,160 --> 01:55:55,320
Speaker 1: You know, I'll give you I think you have to

2356
01:55:55,320 --> 01:55:58,920
Speaker 1: look at him as two different individuals. I think Levi

2357
01:55:59,320 --> 01:56:01,720
Speaker 1: has a better chance to get on the field sooner

2358
01:56:02,080 --> 01:56:05,000
Speaker 1: because he's going to learn exactly what to do, and

2359
01:56:05,080 --> 01:56:08,600
Speaker 1: he really understands a good quality understanding of the game.

2360
01:56:08,640 --> 01:56:11,240
Speaker 1: He's been coached well and he really took to all

2361
01:56:11,240 --> 01:56:14,160
Speaker 1: of that, whereas with Robert Foster, he might be a

2362
01:56:14,200 --> 01:56:18,920
Speaker 1: future kind of developmental prospect. Again, you know, he never

2363
01:56:19,160 --> 01:56:23,040
Speaker 1: quite hit it at Bama like it looked he was

2364
01:56:23,080 --> 01:56:25,680
Speaker 1: trending that way. Then he had that injury and never

2365
01:56:25,720 --> 01:56:28,640
Speaker 1: really got a spot back as the go to guy.

2366
01:56:28,680 --> 01:56:31,520
Speaker 1: He certainly had some highlights there, but he was never

2367
01:56:31,640 --> 01:56:34,320
Speaker 1: the number one go to receiver with Calvin Ridley and

2368
01:56:34,680 --> 01:56:37,160
Speaker 1: several others that were on the scene throughout his career.

2369
01:56:37,280 --> 01:56:40,480
Speaker 1: But to me, he's got a lot of upside potential

2370
01:56:40,840 --> 01:56:44,800
Speaker 1: and if the Bills can identify exactly what they want

2371
01:56:44,920 --> 01:56:48,160
Speaker 1: him to do and what he can be, then I

2372
01:56:48,200 --> 01:56:50,440
Speaker 1: would say that he's got a chance to stick around

2373
01:56:50,520 --> 01:56:52,760
Speaker 1: for a little bit, because again, you don't find guys

2374
01:56:52,760 --> 01:56:54,800
Speaker 1: that are six three that can run like him. So

2375
01:56:55,000 --> 01:56:57,520
Speaker 1: this is a kind of a broader question about just

2376
01:56:57,880 --> 01:57:00,240
Speaker 1: the wide receiver position in general. It seems it's like

2377
01:57:00,240 --> 01:57:07,000
Speaker 1: it's increasingly getting more difficult for receivers coming from college

2378
01:57:07,320 --> 01:57:09,680
Speaker 1: going to the pros and making an impact early on.

2379
01:57:09,760 --> 01:57:12,480
Speaker 1: It seems like there's a lot more development needed. Why,

2380
01:57:12,520 --> 01:57:15,560
Speaker 1: in your opinion, is that and is it part of

2381
01:57:15,560 --> 01:57:19,120
Speaker 1: it the college game or why are these guys a

2382
01:57:19,160 --> 01:57:22,240
Speaker 1: little bit more behind them maybe they were even five

2383
01:57:22,320 --> 01:57:25,720
Speaker 1: years ago. Yeah. I could write a book on this topic,

2384
01:57:25,800 --> 01:57:29,200
Speaker 1: quite honestly, because the truth of it is is that

2385
01:57:29,320 --> 01:57:31,040
Speaker 1: when I do the band of games on a Saturday

2386
01:57:31,040 --> 01:57:33,720
Speaker 1: and then go to a pro game on Sunday, same sports,

2387
01:57:33,760 --> 01:57:37,280
Speaker 1: two different games, Yeah, two different requirements. Not a lot

2388
01:57:37,360 --> 01:57:40,760
Speaker 1: of press coverage in college and guys are bumping around

2389
01:57:40,800 --> 01:57:45,640
Speaker 1: in your face. At the NFL. The defensive players are stronger,

2390
01:57:45,760 --> 01:57:49,560
Speaker 1: more physical, faster. You don't get as many just easy

2391
01:57:49,720 --> 01:57:52,600
Speaker 1: open windows of guy catches one hundred balls during the season.

2392
01:57:52,880 --> 01:57:54,520
Speaker 1: I bet some of these guys that have those kind

2393
01:57:54,560 --> 01:57:57,920
Speaker 1: of numbers. Seventy of them are totally uncontested, just wide open.

2394
01:57:58,240 --> 01:58:01,400
Speaker 1: That doesn't happen in the NFL. And so my point

2395
01:58:01,480 --> 01:58:04,320
Speaker 1: is is that the college game, because everybody's using some

2396
01:58:04,600 --> 01:58:08,440
Speaker 1: version of spread, oftentimes these guys only line up as

2397
01:58:08,480 --> 01:58:11,760
Speaker 1: the left outside receivers, so they only know how to

2398
01:58:11,840 --> 01:58:15,360
Speaker 1: run out to the left and post to the right. Well,

2399
01:58:15,400 --> 01:58:16,800
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden they're in the NFL and

2400
01:58:16,840 --> 01:58:19,360
Speaker 1: there's no side adjustment. Then they get in the NFL

2401
01:58:19,520 --> 01:58:22,080
Speaker 1: and they're playing on the left, on the right x

2402
01:58:22,480 --> 01:58:26,440
Speaker 1: Z in the slot hot read side adjustment, and it

2403
01:58:26,560 --> 01:58:29,240
Speaker 1: just is overwhelming to some of these guys from a

2404
01:58:29,280 --> 01:58:32,440
Speaker 1: mental standpoint. And look, if you're a white out and

2405
01:58:32,600 --> 01:58:35,200
Speaker 1: you don't know and you're not on the same page,

2406
01:58:35,440 --> 01:58:39,720
Speaker 1: it's Steve would say and knows this. If you're not

2407
01:58:39,760 --> 01:58:41,560
Speaker 1: on the same page with the quarterback, they can't put

2408
01:58:41,600 --> 01:58:44,320
Speaker 1: you out here because that quarterbacks depending on you to

2409
01:58:44,520 --> 01:58:46,880
Speaker 1: know when the ball's coming to you and where to be.

2410
01:58:47,080 --> 01:58:50,200
Speaker 1: And so that's I think that that not only is

2411
01:58:50,200 --> 01:58:52,320
Speaker 1: in the at the wide receiver spot, but we're seeing

2412
01:58:52,320 --> 01:58:55,200
Speaker 1: it really across the board and in football in a

2413
01:58:55,200 --> 01:58:58,839
Speaker 1: lot of different positions. Because the games are so different

2414
01:58:59,000 --> 01:59:01,600
Speaker 1: from from college to the NFL, and I think that's

2415
01:59:01,680 --> 01:59:05,720
Speaker 1: really why this alliance has such a I think he's

2416
01:59:05,720 --> 01:59:08,360
Speaker 1: got a better chance today than it had ten years

2417
01:59:08,360 --> 01:59:12,120
Speaker 1: ago of really surviving and not only surviving, but thriving

2418
01:59:12,120 --> 01:59:15,960
Speaker 1: a long term. Phil Savage, former Senior Bowl executive director,

2419
01:59:16,040 --> 01:59:18,400
Speaker 1: former Brown's general manager, thanks so much for coming on

2420
01:59:18,440 --> 01:59:21,320
Speaker 1: with us. I really appreciated. Joe Bascalia, Steve Tasker, really

2421
01:59:21,320 --> 01:59:23,600
Speaker 1: thank you. I hope you hope you have a great weekend,

2422
01:59:23,600 --> 01:59:26,520
Speaker 1: and hope we can have you on again sometime. Okay, guys,

2423
01:59:26,560 --> 01:59:29,720
Speaker 1: have a great holiday week next week, and we will

2424
01:59:29,760 --> 01:59:33,200
Speaker 1: definitely catch up again later during the season or whenever

2425
01:59:33,240 --> 01:59:35,400
Speaker 1: you guys are inclined to want to talk a little

2426
01:59:35,440 --> 01:59:38,800
Speaker 1: bit about the Alliance. I will do that to American

2427
01:59:38,840 --> 01:59:41,720
Speaker 1: Football when he's the GM of one of their franchises,

2428
01:59:41,720 --> 01:59:44,680
Speaker 1: to one in Arizona, which is going to start just

2429
01:59:44,840 --> 01:59:48,440
Speaker 1: after the Super Bowl and end mid mid April. The

2430
01:59:48,520 --> 01:59:51,360
Speaker 1: timeline he's right about that new football league coming on

2431
01:59:51,400 --> 01:59:54,440
Speaker 1: the Alliance of American Football. It's a perfect timeline to

2432
01:59:54,600 --> 01:59:57,480
Speaker 1: mesh with the NFL. And there's no question that this league,

2433
01:59:57,480 --> 02:00:01,840
Speaker 1: this Alliance of American Football is is in a direct relationship.

2434
02:00:01,880 --> 02:00:04,960
Speaker 1: If not financial, it's not, but it is. It is

2435
02:00:05,480 --> 02:00:08,160
Speaker 1: hand in hand with the NFL. Yeah, as it probably

2436
02:00:08,200 --> 02:00:10,360
Speaker 1: should be. I mean, they understand they're not going to

2437
02:00:10,520 --> 02:00:12,600
Speaker 1: crack into the NFL pie, which is why they're not

2438
02:00:12,600 --> 02:00:14,800
Speaker 1: going to go head to head with it. The one

2439
02:00:14,840 --> 02:00:16,920
Speaker 1: thing that that's interesting to me is how they set

2440
02:00:16,960 --> 02:00:20,160
Speaker 1: up their schedule that it runs up to two weeks

2441
02:00:20,160 --> 02:00:23,760
Speaker 1: shy of the NFL Draft, which is smart because that's

2442
02:00:23,800 --> 02:00:27,400
Speaker 1: when that's when the season is, the draft season really

2443
02:00:27,480 --> 02:00:29,280
Speaker 1: kicks in the gear and all those rumors come through.

2444
02:00:30,360 --> 02:00:34,400
Speaker 1: I'm interested to see how exactly fans take to it,

2445
02:00:34,440 --> 02:00:37,680
Speaker 1: because you know, at that point it's all off season mode,

2446
02:00:37,720 --> 02:00:40,640
Speaker 1: I mean, the NFL's and the throes of that. I

2447
02:00:40,720 --> 02:00:44,360
Speaker 1: really want to see exactly what things kind of happen

2448
02:00:44,440 --> 02:00:46,960
Speaker 1: there with with that and if it can succeed, because

2449
02:00:47,000 --> 02:00:50,040
Speaker 1: I'm always game to see because one example, we talked

2450
02:00:50,080 --> 02:00:51,840
Speaker 1: about the NBA a little bit earlier. I love the

2451
02:00:51,920 --> 02:00:55,040
Speaker 1: G League. I think the G League is awesome because

2452
02:00:55,080 --> 02:00:57,840
Speaker 1: it gives guys opportunities, and the NFL really doesn't have

2453
02:00:57,880 --> 02:01:00,800
Speaker 1: anything like that outside of the practice squad. So I'm

2454
02:01:00,800 --> 02:01:04,520
Speaker 1: always interested interested to see if these things can actually survive.

2455
02:01:04,840 --> 02:01:09,440
Speaker 1: It's one. It's a level between Power five conferences and

2456
02:01:09,520 --> 02:01:12,080
Speaker 1: the NFL right where they're gonna start to do things

2457
02:01:12,160 --> 02:01:14,880
Speaker 1: like the NFL with all the guys that are aspiring

2458
02:01:14,920 --> 02:01:17,240
Speaker 1: to be there, who maybe had a chance and didn't

2459
02:01:17,240 --> 02:01:19,440
Speaker 1: make it, or because of an injury their timing was

2460
02:01:19,480 --> 02:01:23,760
Speaker 1: off that they missed their last senior year of football

2461
02:01:23,800 --> 02:01:26,960
Speaker 1: with an injury that they're fully recovered from, or um

2462
02:01:27,480 --> 02:01:29,800
Speaker 1: got cut from late from an NFL team the year

2463
02:01:29,840 --> 02:01:32,960
Speaker 1: at the fall before that. But he says earliest July one,

2464
02:01:33,080 --> 02:01:35,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna start signing players. They're gonna kick it off

2465
02:01:35,640 --> 02:01:38,600
Speaker 1: mid February of twenty nineteen. I don't think they're gonna

2466
02:01:38,600 --> 02:01:40,720
Speaker 1: be signing a lot of players, especially if they want

2467
02:01:40,720 --> 02:01:42,720
Speaker 1: some of these sixty five through ninety guys like you. No,

2468
02:01:42,840 --> 02:01:45,200
Speaker 1: but they will at the end of August, they'll be

2469
02:01:45,240 --> 02:01:48,440
Speaker 1: signing to oh yeah, completely one final cuts roll through.

2470
02:01:48,480 --> 02:01:50,280
Speaker 1: There'll be a few guys out there that they'll say, hey,

2471
02:01:50,320 --> 02:01:51,960
Speaker 1: we get to look at and you know, maybe guys

2472
02:01:52,000 --> 02:01:54,800
Speaker 1: like our first guest that they Dan Orlovsky make it

2473
02:01:54,840 --> 02:01:57,720
Speaker 1: a phone call right to come back and play exactly

2474
02:01:57,800 --> 02:02:01,000
Speaker 1: one coach anyway, once the practice squad dust settles. That's

2475
02:02:01,000 --> 02:02:03,080
Speaker 1: when they're going to strike for all these guys, I think. Yeah,

2476
02:02:03,120 --> 02:02:06,200
Speaker 1: So we're moving right along in this show. We're talking

2477
02:02:06,360 --> 02:02:10,160
Speaker 1: to h Phil Savage about what's coming down the pipe

2478
02:02:10,160 --> 02:02:13,120
Speaker 1: in the NFL and with the Alliance of American Football League.

2479
02:02:13,120 --> 02:02:14,840
Speaker 1: We got a couple of thoughts about some of the

2480
02:02:15,040 --> 02:02:19,000
Speaker 1: young players, young Alabama players that are on the Bills roster,

2481
02:02:19,080 --> 02:02:20,880
Speaker 1: got a little bit of a thumbnail on them. And

2482
02:02:21,080 --> 02:02:23,760
Speaker 1: we're also talking to our listeners who have caught We

2483
02:02:23,800 --> 02:02:25,440
Speaker 1: had a couple of calls and a bunch of tweets

2484
02:02:25,480 --> 02:02:31,040
Speaker 1: about what they're your most your most likely scenario coming

2485
02:02:31,040 --> 02:02:34,200
Speaker 1: out of training camp for the Buffalo Bills quarterbacks position.

2486
02:02:34,240 --> 02:02:38,760
Speaker 1: What's the best case scenario, your ideal scenario when training

2487
02:02:38,800 --> 02:02:41,240
Speaker 1: camp ends for the quarterback situation of the Buffalo Bills.

2488
02:02:41,240 --> 02:02:43,480
Speaker 1: And this is when when training camp ends, what's the

2489
02:02:43,520 --> 02:02:45,320
Speaker 1: regular season going to look like? And you know as

2490
02:02:45,360 --> 02:02:47,160
Speaker 1: well as I do, Joe, we're gonna be talking about

2491
02:02:47,240 --> 02:02:51,280
Speaker 1: nothing but quarterbacks throughout the whole training How many how

2492
02:02:51,640 --> 02:02:55,040
Speaker 1: a J McCarron was five to seven, Nate Peterman was

2493
02:02:55,080 --> 02:02:57,960
Speaker 1: five to seven. Josh Allen was seven to seven, but

2494
02:02:58,000 --> 02:03:00,440
Speaker 1: he was throwing against the second team defense. All of

2495
02:03:00,440 --> 02:03:02,240
Speaker 1: that stuff is gonna go. We're gonna slice and dice

2496
02:03:02,360 --> 02:03:05,240
Speaker 1: that all month. We haven't stopped talking about the quarterback

2497
02:03:05,280 --> 02:03:09,320
Speaker 1: position since Jim retired. Wow, that's a good point by you.

2498
02:03:09,600 --> 02:03:12,400
Speaker 1: I don't think a day has gone by the stop that.

2499
02:03:12,400 --> 02:03:13,800
Speaker 1: That's a good point by you. All right, Well, let's

2500
02:03:13,800 --> 02:03:15,800
Speaker 1: take a break from our conversation. We'll come back and

2501
02:03:15,840 --> 02:03:18,160
Speaker 1: pick up this conversation about a Bill's quarterback. This is

2502
02:03:18,200 --> 02:03:21,040
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio.

2503
02:03:35,280 --> 02:03:38,240
Speaker 1: Welcome back, One Bill's Live, Steve Tasker Joe Biscalio's Time

2504
02:03:38,280 --> 02:03:41,040
Speaker 1: for NFL True false. All right, Joe, I got three

2505
02:03:41,080 --> 02:03:44,280
Speaker 1: of them for you today. I'm ready. And the first

2506
02:03:44,280 --> 02:03:47,040
Speaker 1: one it has to do with quarterback play. We've been

2507
02:03:47,040 --> 02:03:49,360
Speaker 1: talking about quarterbacks all day. We're gonna continue to talk

2508
02:03:49,400 --> 02:03:54,040
Speaker 1: about them, of course, But today's question is about NFL history.

2509
02:03:54,240 --> 02:03:59,800
Speaker 1: Is John Elway? John Elway, I think turns fifty eight today.

2510
02:04:00,120 --> 02:04:02,840
Speaker 1: Is he the most clutch quarterback in NFL history? The

2511
02:04:03,160 --> 02:04:06,320
Speaker 1: true false question is it's a statement John Elway is

2512
02:04:06,360 --> 02:04:10,080
Speaker 1: the most clutch quarterback in NFL history? True or false? Man,

2513
02:04:10,160 --> 02:04:13,160
Speaker 1: he was, he was something in his day. I mean,

2514
02:04:13,320 --> 02:04:16,520
Speaker 1: I mean just being my age. I'm thirty one, and

2515
02:04:16,600 --> 02:04:20,360
Speaker 1: I caught the cognitive part of me and caught the

2516
02:04:20,400 --> 02:04:22,240
Speaker 1: tal end of it right when he was in the

2517
02:04:22,760 --> 02:04:24,800
Speaker 1: couple of Super Bowl years with the Broncos, when they

2518
02:04:24,800 --> 02:04:28,200
Speaker 1: beat well, when they got they got the Packers, finally

2519
02:04:28,240 --> 02:04:32,200
Speaker 1: got over the hump. He was clutch. No, don't get

2520
02:04:32,200 --> 02:04:34,440
Speaker 1: me wrong. I mean, I remember the helicopter run, I

2521
02:04:34,480 --> 02:04:38,800
Speaker 1: remember every everything along those lines. It's hard for me

2522
02:04:39,440 --> 02:04:42,120
Speaker 1: to go against the guy still playing though, Tom Brady,

2523
02:04:42,360 --> 02:04:44,920
Speaker 1: because and I know Bill's fans don't really want to

2524
02:04:44,960 --> 02:04:49,240
Speaker 1: hear about Tom Brady, but you look at not this

2525
02:04:49,320 --> 02:04:52,440
Speaker 1: past super Bowl, the one before that against the Falcons

2526
02:04:52,440 --> 02:04:55,200
Speaker 1: coming back from what they did, and this this is

2527
02:04:55,240 --> 02:04:59,240
Speaker 1: a guy who can routinely do that quite literally. The

2528
02:04:59,280 --> 02:05:02,680
Speaker 1: Patriots are never out of it because of that guy.

2529
02:05:03,480 --> 02:05:06,280
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm maybe I'm a prisoner of when I was

2530
02:05:06,320 --> 02:05:10,200
Speaker 1: born and because I didn't see Elway enough. But I

2531
02:05:10,240 --> 02:05:12,200
Speaker 1: gotta go with Brady with that, So I'm gonna say false.

2532
02:05:12,520 --> 02:05:14,760
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna say true. I played with him

2533
02:05:14,760 --> 02:05:18,400
Speaker 1: and against him, and I've seen Tom Brady his entire career,

2534
02:05:18,760 --> 02:05:20,920
Speaker 1: and no question, Tom Brady has clutch. I mean, you're

2535
02:05:20,920 --> 02:05:26,360
Speaker 1: splitting hairs. He's he's he's what is he five and

2536
02:05:26,440 --> 02:05:28,920
Speaker 1: two in Super Bowls or five and three in Super Bowls?

2537
02:05:29,000 --> 02:05:31,880
Speaker 1: Whatever it is. He's got Batman. Yeah, he's pretty darn good.

2538
02:05:32,040 --> 02:05:33,960
Speaker 1: He's got five super Bowl rings, four of him. He

2539
02:05:34,000 --> 02:05:36,120
Speaker 1: was the MVP of the Super Bowl. He's had forty

2540
02:05:36,120 --> 02:05:40,440
Speaker 1: two game winning drives. John Elways had forty game winning drives.

2541
02:05:40,680 --> 02:05:46,080
Speaker 1: He went to five Super Bowls. And the guy is

2542
02:05:46,360 --> 02:05:48,440
Speaker 1: he had He's got the strongest arm I've ever seen

2543
02:05:48,480 --> 02:05:50,880
Speaker 1: on any quarterback in the history of that of my life.

2544
02:05:51,040 --> 02:05:54,760
Speaker 1: He's got the strongest arm ever. He did things and

2545
02:05:55,040 --> 02:05:56,720
Speaker 1: I know this too. He had Dan Reeves as a

2546
02:05:56,720 --> 02:05:58,480
Speaker 1: head coach for a long time and it's early in

2547
02:05:58,520 --> 02:06:01,720
Speaker 1: his career and to three Super Bowls with Dan Reeves.

2548
02:06:01,880 --> 02:06:04,800
Speaker 1: And they were little acrimonious when they split up because

2549
02:06:05,240 --> 02:06:07,440
Speaker 1: it seems like John Elway got a lot of his

2550
02:06:07,720 --> 02:06:13,520
Speaker 1: game winning drives overcoming Dan reeves antiquated offense. Interesting they

2551
02:06:13,520 --> 02:06:15,840
Speaker 1: were not. It wasn't a happy parting when they When

2552
02:06:15,880 --> 02:06:18,640
Speaker 1: Dan Reeves left, John Elway went on to have a

2553
02:06:18,640 --> 02:06:22,160
Speaker 1: phenomenal career. But I think, yeah, I would say true,

2554
02:06:22,240 --> 02:06:24,000
Speaker 1: he is the most clutch guy in history, because I'll

2555
02:06:24,000 --> 02:06:26,200
Speaker 1: tell you what, given every guy I've ever seen play

2556
02:06:26,240 --> 02:06:31,800
Speaker 1: you talk, Joe Montana, Steve Young, Jim Kelly, uh, John Elway,

2557
02:06:32,400 --> 02:06:35,920
Speaker 1: Dan Marino. You know, boomeris size and all the guys

2558
02:06:35,920 --> 02:06:37,520
Speaker 1: I played with him as a mayor, and even the

2559
02:06:37,520 --> 02:06:41,560
Speaker 1: guys today, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Philip Rivers,

2560
02:06:41,960 --> 02:06:46,920
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger, I'll take, give me, give me Elway, give

2561
02:06:47,000 --> 02:06:50,400
Speaker 1: me Alway. And another one that would make my my conversation.

2562
02:06:50,440 --> 02:06:53,320
Speaker 1: Who's on the list in and some of these stuffs

2563
02:06:53,320 --> 02:06:56,400
Speaker 1: that you see is Ben Roethlisberger. Oh yeah, he's He's

2564
02:06:56,440 --> 02:06:58,760
Speaker 1: completely clutch. I mean Ben is clutch. I see. I

2565
02:06:58,760 --> 02:07:01,600
Speaker 1: think when I think about quarterbacks in the clutch realm,

2566
02:07:01,960 --> 02:07:04,160
Speaker 1: when it gets down to it, it's like you always

2567
02:07:04,200 --> 02:07:06,200
Speaker 1: feel like there's a chance that they bring it back

2568
02:07:06,240 --> 02:07:10,080
Speaker 1: and get our team. Aaron Rodgers has that to him.

2569
02:07:10,240 --> 02:07:12,440
Speaker 1: I want to say, Russell Wilson has that to him.

2570
02:07:12,640 --> 02:07:15,600
Speaker 1: I mean, those are the upper echelon guys for a reason,

2571
02:07:15,640 --> 02:07:18,960
Speaker 1: and that and the clutch gene is very much a

2572
02:07:18,960 --> 02:07:22,040
Speaker 1: part of that, all right. NFL true false Number two.

2573
02:07:22,120 --> 02:07:25,360
Speaker 1: Andy Reid will help Sammy Watkins become a more complete

2574
02:07:25,400 --> 02:07:30,280
Speaker 1: wide receiver. There's a lot of layers to this one, yes,

2575
02:07:30,320 --> 02:07:33,240
Speaker 1: there is. I think I think Sammy Watkins gets a

2576
02:07:33,280 --> 02:07:37,200
Speaker 1: bad rap I really do. I think he is so

2577
02:07:37,440 --> 02:07:41,680
Speaker 1: stinking talented and he has the route running, he has

2578
02:07:41,720 --> 02:07:45,280
Speaker 1: the physicality, he can make tough contested catches. He's got

2579
02:07:45,360 --> 02:07:48,520
Speaker 1: great footwork. I mean, he's got the speed. The one

2580
02:07:48,720 --> 02:07:52,640
Speaker 1: lingering concern has been the injuries with him, and you know,

2581
02:07:52,680 --> 02:07:55,440
Speaker 1: why hasn't he put up the huge numbers. The only

2582
02:07:55,480 --> 02:07:57,880
Speaker 1: time he's put up the huge numbers was that one

2583
02:07:58,000 --> 02:08:00,840
Speaker 1: eight week stretch I want to say, like twenty end

2584
02:08:00,880 --> 02:08:05,600
Speaker 1: of twenty fifteen. Yes, top three receiver in all categories. Now,

2585
02:08:05,680 --> 02:08:08,720
Speaker 1: I think the reason why he might have been shifted

2586
02:08:08,760 --> 02:08:11,720
Speaker 1: down with the La Rams is just a part of

2587
02:08:11,720 --> 02:08:14,160
Speaker 1: the offense because they do something a little bit more

2588
02:08:14,240 --> 02:08:17,160
Speaker 1: unique there to where you know, Jared Goff gets the

2589
02:08:17,240 --> 02:08:19,840
Speaker 1: call in from Sean McVay pretty late after they see

2590
02:08:19,880 --> 02:08:22,120
Speaker 1: the defense already about kind of what to do with

2591
02:08:22,160 --> 02:08:27,280
Speaker 1: the football, and it's not always going towards Watkins. I

2592
02:08:27,320 --> 02:08:30,360
Speaker 1: think with the combination of Andy Reid and now with

2593
02:08:31,560 --> 02:08:35,440
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, I think there is major potential for him

2594
02:08:35,880 --> 02:08:38,880
Speaker 1: to be a big time guy in this league, and

2595
02:08:39,040 --> 02:08:41,840
Speaker 1: I will continue to believe in in his talent because

2596
02:08:41,880 --> 02:08:44,480
Speaker 1: he is. He's one of the most talented receivers I've

2597
02:08:44,520 --> 02:08:46,680
Speaker 1: ever seen come out of college. It's just a matter

2598
02:08:46,720 --> 02:08:49,360
Speaker 1: of finding the right fit and maybe just having it

2599
02:08:49,400 --> 02:08:51,600
Speaker 1: all click for him and being in the right offense.

2600
02:08:51,760 --> 02:08:53,320
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say true on that one. I think

2601
02:08:53,360 --> 02:08:55,640
Speaker 1: Andy Reid will get the more out of Sammy Watkins

2602
02:08:55,680 --> 02:09:00,400
Speaker 1: than anyone else has been able to do. I'm gonna say, well,

2603
02:09:00,440 --> 02:09:02,120
Speaker 1: here's the thing. It's a little bit iffy on the

2604
02:09:02,160 --> 02:09:05,760
Speaker 1: statement is will he become a more complete wide receiver.

2605
02:09:06,240 --> 02:09:08,360
Speaker 1: I think you're probably right. Andy Reid's gonna coach him up.

2606
02:09:08,400 --> 02:09:10,280
Speaker 1: He's gonna he's gonna coach him hard. He's gonna be

2607
02:09:10,320 --> 02:09:12,760
Speaker 1: a guy that and Andy Reid Gardners I think a

2608
02:09:12,760 --> 02:09:14,840
Speaker 1: lot of respect with the players around the football league

2609
02:09:14,920 --> 02:09:16,880
Speaker 1: right now. I think the one thing, more so than

2610
02:09:16,920 --> 02:09:19,600
Speaker 1: any other, aside from the injuries, the thing about it

2611
02:09:19,680 --> 02:09:22,560
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins and his abilities that have had the thing

2612
02:09:22,600 --> 02:09:25,840
Speaker 1: that the characteristic that has held him back has been

2613
02:09:26,840 --> 02:09:33,000
Speaker 1: his inability or unwillingness to dig deep when things go bad,

2614
02:09:33,040 --> 02:09:35,840
Speaker 1: time and time and time again. In Buffalo when he

2615
02:09:35,920 --> 02:09:39,000
Speaker 1: was here, when he had Tyrod Taylor as his quarterback.

2616
02:09:39,000 --> 02:09:42,080
Speaker 1: When Tyrod Taylor would break contained, Sammy Watkins would stop

2617
02:09:42,160 --> 02:09:45,760
Speaker 1: running his route. You see teams around the National Football

2618
02:09:45,840 --> 02:09:48,040
Speaker 1: League and Ben Roethlisberger in the Pittsburgh seaters. I go

2619
02:09:48,040 --> 02:09:50,040
Speaker 1: back to them time and time again. Early in Ben

2620
02:09:50,120 --> 02:09:54,080
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger's career, where Ben would because he was so young,

2621
02:09:54,120 --> 02:09:56,640
Speaker 1: wouldn't you know, wouldn't really discern what the defense was

2622
02:09:56,680 --> 02:09:58,160
Speaker 1: gonna be, and he didn't really want to throw it,

2623
02:09:58,240 --> 02:10:02,000
Speaker 1: and he would break contain. He would throw the pressure

2624
02:10:02,040 --> 02:10:04,000
Speaker 1: off of him. He'd break a tackle in the pocket

2625
02:10:04,040 --> 02:10:05,680
Speaker 1: like he was so big, and he'd break out of

2626
02:10:05,720 --> 02:10:10,040
Speaker 1: the pocket. They made a lot of enormous plays in

2627
02:10:10,080 --> 02:10:12,480
Speaker 1: their Super Bowl runs because of his ability to do that,

2628
02:10:12,520 --> 02:10:16,080
Speaker 1: and the receivers loved it because when Ben was out

2629
02:10:16,680 --> 02:10:19,800
Speaker 1: of pocket, it turned into backyard football and they would

2630
02:10:19,800 --> 02:10:21,800
Speaker 1: turn just find an open area and go and Ben

2631
02:10:21,880 --> 02:10:23,800
Speaker 1: being so big with such a big arm, he'd find

2632
02:10:23,880 --> 02:10:28,880
Speaker 1: him accurate throw, touchdown, big play, game changer happened time

2633
02:10:28,920 --> 02:10:31,800
Speaker 1: and time again. Tyrod Taylor had the ability to do

2634
02:10:31,800 --> 02:10:33,840
Speaker 1: the exact same thing. He would break contain, he had

2635
02:10:33,880 --> 02:10:35,680
Speaker 1: the arm to put it anywhere on the field he wanted.

2636
02:10:35,800 --> 02:10:38,080
Speaker 1: He would turn around, look down the football field and

2637
02:10:38,120 --> 02:10:40,960
Speaker 1: Sammy Watchers is standing still on the sideline because the

2638
02:10:41,000 --> 02:10:43,400
Speaker 1: play was over. Yeah, I could see that, and I

2639
02:10:43,400 --> 02:10:46,120
Speaker 1: could also see a certain amount of frustration from the

2640
02:10:46,160 --> 02:10:49,360
Speaker 1: receivers with kind of tyrode. I mean, they might have

2641
02:10:49,560 --> 02:10:54,080
Speaker 1: never said it, but actions speak louder than words, especially

2642
02:10:54,120 --> 02:10:56,680
Speaker 1: with how demonstrative actions. I can't tell you how many

2643
02:10:56,720 --> 02:10:59,080
Speaker 1: times I saw Robert Woods kind of do something over

2644
02:10:59,160 --> 02:11:00,880
Speaker 1: the middle of the field when he was wide open

2645
02:11:01,240 --> 02:11:03,720
Speaker 1: and ty Rodgers didn't see him. Sammy Watkins almost the

2646
02:11:03,720 --> 02:11:05,920
Speaker 1: same way. It's just body leak, which more than anything,

2647
02:11:06,000 --> 02:11:08,320
Speaker 1: and maybe that led into it, and maybe that's the

2648
02:11:08,320 --> 02:11:10,680
Speaker 1: attitude adjustment he needs. And part of it is growing up.

2649
02:11:10,720 --> 02:11:13,080
Speaker 1: He came into the league really, really young, and it

2650
02:11:13,120 --> 02:11:15,400
Speaker 1: does he have that in him? I think that's gonna

2651
02:11:15,400 --> 02:11:19,040
Speaker 1: be something. And maybe Andy Reid, being as I guess

2652
02:11:19,040 --> 02:11:22,360
Speaker 1: experienced as he is in dealing with personalities around the league.

2653
02:11:22,520 --> 02:11:26,040
Speaker 1: I think you want to think that there's there's potential

2654
02:11:26,080 --> 02:11:27,960
Speaker 1: there and they believed in him enough to give him

2655
02:11:27,960 --> 02:11:30,280
Speaker 1: a huge contract. So yeah, and I'll tell you this though,

2656
02:11:30,600 --> 02:11:33,560
Speaker 1: it says something to me that La Rams. I didn't

2657
02:11:33,560 --> 02:11:36,000
Speaker 1: see him jumping high to get him. Well, yeah, I

2658
02:11:36,000 --> 02:11:39,080
Speaker 1: mean they had a big payroll. They that's true, and

2659
02:11:39,120 --> 02:11:41,000
Speaker 1: they went out and got a lot of defenders this

2660
02:11:41,080 --> 02:11:42,720
Speaker 1: year and they did that a lot, but they didn't

2661
02:11:42,720 --> 02:11:45,440
Speaker 1: do that on offense. And maybe they're leaning on golf

2662
02:11:45,480 --> 02:11:48,120
Speaker 1: a little bit, but I don't. I didn't see any

2663
02:11:48,120 --> 02:11:50,520
Speaker 1: tears shed when Sammy Watkins walked out the door in

2664
02:11:50,640 --> 02:11:53,480
Speaker 1: La either. So, but I will say true. I think

2665
02:11:53,520 --> 02:11:56,240
Speaker 1: Andy Reid's gonna help Sammy watch. Yeah, I think more

2666
02:11:56,240 --> 02:11:59,240
Speaker 1: complete research. So there's all right. So NFL true false

2667
02:11:59,400 --> 02:12:03,120
Speaker 1: Number three. The Giants have one of the worst rosters

2668
02:12:03,480 --> 02:12:08,800
Speaker 1: in the n f L M. I think I'm going

2669
02:12:08,800 --> 02:12:14,000
Speaker 1: true here. You know. I love obviously Odell Beckham Junior,

2670
02:12:14,200 --> 02:12:19,280
Speaker 1: and he's he is so incredible to watch, even just

2671
02:12:19,360 --> 02:12:24,960
Speaker 1: warm up. He's ridiculous. They brought in se Quon Barkley.

2672
02:12:25,160 --> 02:12:27,880
Speaker 1: He's got a lot of hype around him. I just

2673
02:12:28,600 --> 02:12:30,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's going to live up to

2674
02:12:30,120 --> 02:12:32,880
Speaker 1: the type of hype that they're giving. I mean, maybe

2675
02:12:32,960 --> 02:12:35,360
Speaker 1: his yards per carry isn't gonna be great, but he'll

2676
02:12:35,360 --> 02:12:37,080
Speaker 1: get a ton of yards because they have to depend

2677
02:12:37,120 --> 02:12:40,440
Speaker 1: on him, so much. I think their defense kind of stinks.

2678
02:12:41,320 --> 02:12:45,000
Speaker 1: To be fair, Eli Manning is not the same guy

2679
02:12:45,040 --> 02:12:48,280
Speaker 1: that he was. It's so evident. I thought it was

2680
02:12:49,160 --> 02:12:52,960
Speaker 1: just I couldn't believe it when the Giants didn't even

2681
02:12:53,120 --> 02:12:56,440
Speaker 1: think about taking a quarterback at second overall or at

2682
02:12:56,440 --> 02:13:00,640
Speaker 1: the very least trade down to give themselves some more assets,

2683
02:13:01,120 --> 02:13:04,680
Speaker 1: maybe even another pick in next year's draft, or a

2684
02:13:04,720 --> 02:13:09,280
Speaker 1: couple of picks in this past draft to give them

2685
02:13:09,320 --> 02:13:12,040
Speaker 1: just more talent, and instead they went for a running back.

2686
02:13:13,240 --> 02:13:15,280
Speaker 1: You know, I know Dave Gentleman's going through some stuff

2687
02:13:15,360 --> 02:13:18,120
Speaker 1: right now, and you know I'm cognizant of that, But

2688
02:13:18,240 --> 02:13:20,400
Speaker 1: in terms of the decision he made and how to

2689
02:13:20,960 --> 02:13:23,760
Speaker 1: how to address his roster, I just don't know how

2690
02:13:23,800 --> 02:13:25,920
Speaker 1: you can sit there and trust Eli Manning after what

2691
02:13:26,080 --> 02:13:30,200
Speaker 1: he has devolved into over the past two years. Well,

2692
02:13:30,400 --> 02:13:32,240
Speaker 1: I kind of agree with you, because I do think

2693
02:13:32,280 --> 02:13:35,480
Speaker 1: the offensive line of the Giant I mean, everything starts

2694
02:13:35,480 --> 02:13:37,800
Speaker 1: for the Giants on both sides of the football from

2695
02:13:37,920 --> 02:13:40,640
Speaker 1: right close to the football. The offensive line for the

2696
02:13:40,680 --> 02:13:43,320
Speaker 1: Giants has not been very good. Their defensive line that

2697
02:13:43,400 --> 02:13:45,400
Speaker 1: they're not the same guys that they could rush the

2698
02:13:45,440 --> 02:13:47,720
Speaker 1: past or with just four guys and drop seven into

2699
02:13:47,760 --> 02:13:50,520
Speaker 1: coverage and let you expect you to find a hole.

2700
02:13:50,640 --> 02:13:53,280
Speaker 1: They're not that same. Se Quon Barkley is a really

2701
02:13:53,320 --> 02:13:56,480
Speaker 1: good player. Eli is. I don't think you're going to

2702
02:13:56,520 --> 02:13:58,720
Speaker 1: find out who Eli is until you fix his he's

2703
02:13:58,760 --> 02:14:01,000
Speaker 1: got He's not an athlete. If you're not going to

2704
02:14:01,080 --> 02:14:04,080
Speaker 1: protect him, he's going to look bad. Odell Beckham is

2705
02:14:04,120 --> 02:14:07,400
Speaker 1: an excellent player. Sae Quon Barclay, As I said, they've

2706
02:14:07,440 --> 02:14:12,680
Speaker 1: also got a Landon Collins is. Yeah, he's a solid station.

2707
02:14:12,720 --> 02:14:15,080
Speaker 1: He's just very good safety. They've got a really good safety.

2708
02:14:15,080 --> 02:14:17,040
Speaker 1: But you're right. I mean, then when you talk about

2709
02:14:17,080 --> 02:14:19,160
Speaker 1: the players who are real high quality NFL players at

2710
02:14:19,200 --> 02:14:21,400
Speaker 1: the list is pretty short and there's a big drop

2711
02:14:21,440 --> 02:14:24,120
Speaker 1: off between those guys and everybody else. So I'm gonna say, yeah,

2712
02:14:24,160 --> 02:14:26,960
Speaker 1: the Giants are struggling and all across their roster. And

2713
02:14:27,560 --> 02:14:29,480
Speaker 1: it's not that they may be the worst roster or

2714
02:14:29,480 --> 02:14:31,840
Speaker 1: they're pathetic or they're but I think they've got some

2715
02:14:31,880 --> 02:14:33,800
Speaker 1: holes to fill and they didn't do it a very

2716
02:14:33,800 --> 02:14:37,560
Speaker 1: good job about filling one young running back, helping an

2717
02:14:37,560 --> 02:14:42,160
Speaker 1: aging quarterback behind the same offensive line or a tattered

2718
02:14:42,160 --> 02:14:44,800
Speaker 1: offensive line is not Gonna is not where the Giants

2719
02:14:44,880 --> 02:14:49,840
Speaker 1: are gonna are used to being, and they're not. I

2720
02:14:49,880 --> 02:14:53,640
Speaker 1: think the Giants fan base and their ownership expect them

2721
02:14:53,640 --> 02:14:55,720
Speaker 1: to be contending for the division and in the playoffs

2722
02:14:55,720 --> 02:14:58,080
Speaker 1: every year or close to it. They are not going

2723
02:14:58,120 --> 02:15:00,360
Speaker 1: to do that. They did sign Nate sold in the

2724
02:15:00,400 --> 02:15:02,720
Speaker 1: offseason to try and help the offensive line, but there's

2725
02:15:02,720 --> 02:15:05,320
Speaker 1: still problems all throughout it. I mean, one left tackle

2726
02:15:05,400 --> 02:15:08,400
Speaker 1: is going certainly going to help the equation. But my

2727
02:15:08,480 --> 02:15:11,840
Speaker 1: main point in contention here is with Eli because he

2728
02:15:11,920 --> 02:15:15,200
Speaker 1: was missing open targets even when he had time. It's,

2729
02:15:15,720 --> 02:15:19,760
Speaker 1: you know, it's unfortunate because when when he was going

2730
02:15:19,880 --> 02:15:22,160
Speaker 1: really well, I mean, he was fun to watch and

2731
02:15:22,200 --> 02:15:24,840
Speaker 1: those playoff runs and he was a fascinating player to

2732
02:15:24,880 --> 02:15:27,760
Speaker 1: track over the time, but time has passed by and

2733
02:15:27,840 --> 02:15:32,000
Speaker 1: Father Time is undefeated. It's cliche, but it's absolutely correct,

2734
02:15:32,280 --> 02:15:34,520
Speaker 1: and I honestly think the Giants made a mistake by

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02:15:34,520 --> 02:15:37,360
Speaker 1: not addressing the quarterback position more in this office, and

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02:15:37,360 --> 02:15:40,160
Speaker 1: it remains to be seen. And those are your NFL

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02:15:40,240 --> 02:15:44,000
Speaker 1: true false. John Elway the most clutch quarterback in NFL history.

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02:15:44,040 --> 02:15:46,800
Speaker 1: I'm true Joe's false. Andy Reid will help Sammy watch

2739
02:15:46,800 --> 02:15:48,680
Speaker 1: because we both think that's going to happen and the Giants.

2740
02:15:48,680 --> 02:15:50,440
Speaker 1: We do think the Giants have struggled in their in

2741
02:15:50,480 --> 02:15:55,040
Speaker 1: their step and you go to the Giants. It depends

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02:15:55,080 --> 02:15:57,240
Speaker 1: on how good Sequon Barkley can be. But if he's

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02:15:57,240 --> 02:15:59,080
Speaker 1: that good and they're going to start giving them the football,

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02:15:59,120 --> 02:16:00,640
Speaker 1: I mean, how much is it really gonna open it

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02:16:00,720 --> 02:16:02,960
Speaker 1: up for Rodell Beckham and Eli? And how good is

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02:16:03,000 --> 02:16:04,520
Speaker 1: Eli going to have to throw? And how much is

2747
02:16:04,520 --> 02:16:08,160
Speaker 1: he gonna have to improve to make a significant change

2748
02:16:08,160 --> 02:16:10,400
Speaker 1: in the fortunes of that team. I don't think sae

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02:16:10,480 --> 02:16:13,000
Speaker 1: Quon Barkley is a big enough or that position is

2750
02:16:13,000 --> 02:16:16,800
Speaker 1: a big enough change to change the fortunes of an

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02:16:16,960 --> 02:16:20,160
Speaker 1: entire team. Adrian Peterson could never do it. Barry Sanders

2752
02:16:20,160 --> 02:16:21,960
Speaker 1: could never do it. I mean it was you know,

2753
02:16:22,000 --> 02:16:24,920
Speaker 1: when you got that guy and nobody else. That's a

2754
02:16:24,960 --> 02:16:28,560
Speaker 1: tough road to hoe for an organization who's the face

2755
02:16:28,600 --> 02:16:31,120
Speaker 1: of their franchise is a running back young no matter

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02:16:31,120 --> 02:16:34,119
Speaker 1: how good they are. Yeah, when you have I mean,

2757
02:16:34,600 --> 02:16:37,440
Speaker 1: in today's NFL, you have to have the quarterback play.

2758
02:16:37,680 --> 02:16:40,440
Speaker 1: And if you're depending on the running back to bring

2759
02:16:40,440 --> 02:16:43,080
Speaker 1: you out of the doldrums, good luck. It's not the sixties,

2760
02:16:43,080 --> 02:16:45,959
Speaker 1: it's not early too. They're gonna stick with eli that

2761
02:16:46,040 --> 02:16:48,760
Speaker 1: before the draft from all those quarterbacks were available, and

2762
02:16:49,120 --> 02:16:51,480
Speaker 1: I think that was the perfect time to leverage that

2763
02:16:51,520 --> 02:16:54,720
Speaker 1: into a bunch of picks. Get your roster better overall,

2764
02:16:55,200 --> 02:16:57,360
Speaker 1: or pick one of these young guys. Pick one of them.

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02:16:57,360 --> 02:17:00,440
Speaker 1: How about just take Sam Darnold just just right, just

2766
02:17:00,520 --> 02:17:03,040
Speaker 1: take the safe pick. You don't have to start him

2767
02:17:03,160 --> 02:17:07,280
Speaker 1: right away. And yeah, I'm with you, man. I think

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02:17:07,280 --> 02:17:11,920
Speaker 1: the Giants, while they showed they're I think they might.

2769
02:17:12,360 --> 02:17:14,840
Speaker 1: But I mean sa Quon Barkley may turn into a

2770
02:17:14,840 --> 02:17:18,000
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, but I don't think that's a that's

2771
02:17:18,000 --> 02:17:20,680
Speaker 1: a position that's gonna put the Giants into the playoffs

2772
02:17:20,680 --> 02:17:22,760
Speaker 1: on a consistent basis. I mean, he may have a

2773
02:17:22,800 --> 02:17:25,760
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame career, but that doesn't win football games

2774
02:17:25,800 --> 02:17:28,120
Speaker 1: for at that position. The guy may put up a

2775
02:17:28,120 --> 02:17:31,720
Speaker 1: lot of yards. Frank Gore's had a phenomenal receive a

2776
02:17:31,720 --> 02:17:34,240
Speaker 1: phenomenal career, but look where he was in San Francisco

2777
02:17:34,280 --> 02:17:37,240
Speaker 1: and in Houston and and now he's in Indianapolis. I mean,

2778
02:17:37,280 --> 02:17:40,119
Speaker 1: that guy is he hasn't been in the playoffs very much.

2779
02:17:40,920 --> 02:17:46,840
Speaker 1: Um so you know, that's great for your the back cover,

2780
02:17:47,000 --> 02:17:49,760
Speaker 1: your media guide to have all, you know, one more

2781
02:17:49,800 --> 02:17:52,360
Speaker 1: guy in the Hall. But you know it's it's gonna

2782
02:17:52,360 --> 02:17:54,760
Speaker 1: go right in front of where your super Bowl trophy

2783
02:17:54,760 --> 02:17:56,879
Speaker 1: would have been if you'd gotten a franchise quarterback. And

2784
02:17:57,040 --> 02:18:00,680
Speaker 1: odds are is not going to be a Hall of

2785
02:18:00,680 --> 02:18:03,200
Speaker 1: Fame player. The odds are always in the favor of

2786
02:18:03,360 --> 02:18:05,920
Speaker 1: players not going to the Hall of Fame. But of

2787
02:18:05,920 --> 02:18:09,240
Speaker 1: course listen, yeah, like there's only like, there's two seventy

2788
02:18:09,280 --> 02:18:12,039
Speaker 1: five of those guys anyway, so they better they better

2789
02:18:12,080 --> 02:18:15,959
Speaker 1: hope he hits like that because to ignore the quarterback

2790
02:18:16,200 --> 02:18:19,960
Speaker 1: quarterback position in a quarterback friendly draft class this past year,

2791
02:18:20,000 --> 02:18:24,400
Speaker 1: they better hope that nobody drafted after Baker Mayfield day

2792
02:18:24,440 --> 02:18:26,000
Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame. And it better not be

2793
02:18:26,040 --> 02:18:29,600
Speaker 1: one of those quarterbacks. For if you're the Giants, people

2794
02:18:29,560 --> 02:18:32,520
Speaker 1: are going to blow that blow them up, and rightfully so,

2795
02:18:32,600 --> 02:18:35,279
Speaker 1: I mean, because this is that the Giants are never,

2796
02:18:36,480 --> 02:18:38,920
Speaker 1: notoriously have never been bad enough to get the number

2797
02:18:38,920 --> 02:18:41,160
Speaker 1: two pick of the draft. They were that the last time.

2798
02:18:41,160 --> 02:18:43,320
Speaker 1: It was when they got to ELI when they picked

2799
02:18:43,320 --> 02:18:46,080
Speaker 1: one San Diego pick two, and they flip flop picks Um,

2800
02:18:46,240 --> 02:18:49,400
Speaker 1: it's you know, it just doesn't happen that often. And

2801
02:18:49,480 --> 02:18:52,480
Speaker 1: to miss on a on a position that is so important,

2802
02:18:52,520 --> 02:18:55,040
Speaker 1: I think is it may come back to haunt him. Yep,

2803
02:18:55,080 --> 02:18:56,840
Speaker 1: I agree. We'll seem all right, one We're gonna take

2804
02:18:56,840 --> 02:18:58,920
Speaker 1: a break. We'll be back with what did we learn

2805
02:18:59,040 --> 02:19:01,320
Speaker 1: after this One Bill Live from One Bill's Drive on

2806
02:19:01,360 --> 02:19:19,320
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. What have we learned? Presented by Advanced

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2810
02:19:27,879 --> 02:19:32,120
Speaker 1: we were talking to about training camp and how important

2811
02:19:32,160 --> 02:19:34,920
Speaker 1: it was. We had Dan Orlovsky, former NFL quarterback on

2812
02:19:35,000 --> 02:19:38,960
Speaker 1: and also an NFL an NFL Network contributor, played twelve

2813
02:19:39,000 --> 02:19:41,440
Speaker 1: years in the NFL at quarterback, and we asked him

2814
02:19:41,480 --> 02:19:44,200
Speaker 1: what Josh Allen needed to do to prepare for training camp.

2815
02:19:44,280 --> 02:19:49,120
Speaker 1: Here's what he said. Those first couple of weeks, most

2816
02:19:49,160 --> 02:19:52,080
Speaker 1: teams treated his training camp, and then after that teams

2817
02:19:52,080 --> 02:19:55,119
Speaker 1: are getting ready for a Week one and so you're eye,

2818
02:19:55,200 --> 02:19:58,039
Speaker 1: he's either going to be preparing to go start Week

2819
02:19:58,080 --> 02:20:00,240
Speaker 1: one or he's going to be trying to take gonna

2820
02:20:00,280 --> 02:20:02,720
Speaker 1: back burner a little bit, and a guy like a

2821
02:20:02,879 --> 02:20:06,240
Speaker 1: j mccaren or Peterman will be preparing. So he's just

2822
02:20:06,320 --> 02:20:09,880
Speaker 1: got to be prepared to get ready to intake all

2823
02:20:09,959 --> 02:20:14,879
Speaker 1: that information day by day by day. And I always

2824
02:20:14,920 --> 02:20:18,640
Speaker 1: told junk kids, don't think about training camp. Think about Tuesday.

2825
02:20:18,800 --> 02:20:21,320
Speaker 1: Have a good Tuesday, and if you have a good Tuesday,

2826
02:20:21,320 --> 02:20:23,080
Speaker 1: then you move on to Wednesday. If you have a

2827
02:20:23,160 --> 02:20:25,280
Speaker 1: bad Tuesday, you move on to Wednesday. But try to

2828
02:20:25,280 --> 02:20:28,360
Speaker 1: go at it to day by day. Yess. One of

2829
02:20:28,360 --> 02:20:30,240
Speaker 1: the things, Joe, you come back to these things and

2830
02:20:31,640 --> 02:20:34,680
Speaker 1: you got to break it into small pieces. Man, you're

2831
02:20:34,720 --> 02:20:36,760
Speaker 1: not gonna win the super Bowl on the first day

2832
02:20:36,760 --> 02:20:39,800
Speaker 1: of training camp. You certainly will not. And heck, I

2833
02:20:39,800 --> 02:20:42,080
Speaker 1: don't even think you can win a super Bowl on

2834
02:20:42,160 --> 02:20:44,240
Speaker 1: the second day of tran camp. That's exactly right. Well,

2835
02:20:44,240 --> 02:20:46,400
Speaker 1: so we stuck with the training camp theme. Later in

2836
02:20:46,400 --> 02:20:48,920
Speaker 1: the show, we had Lorenzo Alexander on and we also

2837
02:20:48,959 --> 02:20:52,320
Speaker 1: asked him, and I've observed this as well's how is

2838
02:20:52,360 --> 02:20:57,280
Speaker 1: training How is training camp changed over the years, And he,

2839
02:20:57,440 --> 02:20:59,120
Speaker 1: like a lot of other veterans, had a lot to

2840
02:20:59,160 --> 02:21:03,119
Speaker 1: say about that. Yeah, didn't have no clue. And most

2841
02:21:03,160 --> 02:21:06,080
Speaker 1: of these kids didn't have two of days in college either,

2842
02:21:06,360 --> 02:21:10,520
Speaker 1: because that rule change soon after the NFL made. You know,

2843
02:21:10,520 --> 02:21:12,520
Speaker 1: you're just trying to let them know this stuff is

2844
02:21:12,560 --> 02:21:14,200
Speaker 1: easy out here's a cake walk. But for me, it's

2845
02:21:14,200 --> 02:21:16,200
Speaker 1: been beneficial. That's why I'm probably still playing in the

2846
02:21:16,240 --> 02:21:18,200
Speaker 1: league today, because if we had two of days, had

2847
02:21:18,280 --> 02:21:20,360
Speaker 1: that grind like we did back in the day, I'd

2848
02:21:20,360 --> 02:21:25,680
Speaker 1: definitely be worn down from man. And that's the way

2849
02:21:25,680 --> 02:21:28,560
Speaker 1: it is. I mean, the training camps players. Safety has

2850
02:21:28,560 --> 02:21:31,360
Speaker 1: made training camp like the training camps I used to

2851
02:21:31,440 --> 02:21:33,160
Speaker 1: go to with the Marvel Levy they were they were

2852
02:21:33,320 --> 02:21:38,560
Speaker 1: great veteran training camp. Not the Marvel Levy training camps

2853
02:21:38,560 --> 02:21:41,360
Speaker 1: were great. The Houston Oiler training camps I was with

2854
02:21:41,360 --> 02:21:44,440
Speaker 1: a Jared Glanville and Hugh Campbell. They were not so great. Yeah,

2855
02:21:44,560 --> 02:21:47,400
Speaker 1: not as comforting, not as comforting, not as comfortable. I

2856
02:21:47,400 --> 02:21:49,280
Speaker 1: will tell you listen, hey, I'm telling you what. This

2857
02:21:49,360 --> 02:21:51,040
Speaker 1: was a great Friday. In fact, it was so great.

2858
02:21:51,040 --> 02:21:54,120
Speaker 1: We're giving everybody next week off. Whoa nobody has to

2859
02:21:54,160 --> 02:21:56,880
Speaker 1: come in, no show next week. I'm making the bold

2860
02:21:56,879 --> 02:22:00,600
Speaker 1: decision right now. We'll come back on July ninth get

2861
02:22:00,600 --> 02:22:02,720
Speaker 1: ready for training camp. Joe has been great having you on.

2862
02:22:02,760 --> 02:22:05,400
Speaker 1: He's been super Thanks man. I hope you liked it.

2863
02:22:05,440 --> 02:22:08,119
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I definitely did. I love talking about football,

2864
02:22:08,200 --> 02:22:10,720
Speaker 1: and we even snuck some NBA talk in there. Yeah,

2865
02:22:10,879 --> 02:22:13,520
Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander's on that. I'm a huge NBA van. He's

2866
02:22:13,520 --> 02:22:16,040
Speaker 1: a big Warriors fan, and i'd like give him trouble

2867
02:22:16,040 --> 02:22:18,119
Speaker 1: about being a front run. I mean, he's from that area,

2868
02:22:18,160 --> 02:22:20,120
Speaker 1: from that area, so fuck in the past. The rest

2869
02:22:20,120 --> 02:22:22,000
Speaker 1: of us are front run. I was gonna ask him

2870
02:22:22,000 --> 02:22:24,760
Speaker 1: if he believed in super teams or if he thought

2871
02:22:24,760 --> 02:22:26,720
Speaker 1: it was good for the league. But then I don't realize, Yeah,

2872
02:22:26,720 --> 02:22:28,560
Speaker 1: he's a Warriors guy. He's gonna say, yeah, of course

2873
02:22:28,560 --> 02:22:30,600
Speaker 1: it is. Yeah, what are you gonna do? You headed

2874
02:22:30,600 --> 02:22:34,039
Speaker 1: out and you gotta work tonight though, right, Yeah, gotta

2875
02:22:34,080 --> 02:22:36,680
Speaker 1: gotta work tonight. But other than that, Yeah, it's uh,

2876
02:22:37,240 --> 02:22:39,640
Speaker 1: gonna gonna go see some friends and family after it.

2877
02:22:39,720 --> 02:22:42,560
Speaker 1: And but it's but it's the time of the year

2878
02:22:42,600 --> 02:22:45,680
Speaker 1: where everyone kind of, you know, just just relaxes a

2879
02:22:45,680 --> 02:22:48,039
Speaker 1: little bit and gets ready for training camp. I can't

2880
02:22:48,080 --> 02:22:51,320
Speaker 1: wait for training camp. I'm big into training camp. I'm

2881
02:22:51,320 --> 02:22:52,959
Speaker 1: off today I'm gonna go out. I'm gonna go up

2882
02:22:52,959 --> 02:22:55,720
Speaker 1: and watch a football game. Oh yeah, Hamilton Tiger Cats.

2883
02:22:55,959 --> 02:22:57,800
Speaker 1: You know what I gotta tell you. I've been asking

2884
02:22:57,800 --> 02:22:59,800
Speaker 1: me all week. I can't even remember who they're playing tonight,

2885
02:23:00,200 --> 02:23:02,560
Speaker 1: and it doesn't even matter. I'm going anyways to home opener.

2886
02:23:02,600 --> 02:23:05,480
Speaker 1: Give us ane and advanced scouting report of Johnny when

2887
02:23:05,480 --> 02:23:08,439
Speaker 1: you get back. Listen. He's doing everything they're they're asking

2888
02:23:08,520 --> 02:23:10,440
Speaker 1: him to do. It's gonna be super. But I'm serious,

2889
02:23:10,600 --> 02:23:13,920
Speaker 1: no show next week. Murph's out, I'm out. There's gonna

2890
02:23:13,920 --> 02:23:17,360
Speaker 1: be alternate programming on. So I'm giving you the week

2891
02:23:17,360 --> 02:23:19,240
Speaker 1: off too, By the way, I appreciate that. Hey, there

2892
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Speaker 1: you go. I'd like to thank our production assistants George Bloss,

2893
02:23:23,280 --> 02:23:26,040
Speaker 1: Jeff Colton, Eck Thomas Holland or Kelly Rude, JJ Teredo

2894
02:23:26,080 --> 02:23:29,440
Speaker 1: or producer of course, Jay Harris, Kevin Cargis, and James

2895
02:23:29,480 --> 02:23:32,480
Speaker 1: Robill as well. It's been a fun week. We're gonna

2896
02:23:32,520 --> 02:23:35,760
Speaker 1: be back in the saddle July ninth, and that that's

2897
02:23:35,760 --> 02:23:38,160
Speaker 1: when we're really gonna hone in because we're all taking

2898
02:23:38,160 --> 02:23:40,000
Speaker 1: a little bit of time off because as you said,

2899
02:23:40,040 --> 02:23:42,120
Speaker 1: it's that time of year. For all and then it's

2900
02:23:42,160 --> 02:23:45,360
Speaker 1: then it's like full go and man oh man. Yeah,

2901
02:23:45,360 --> 02:23:47,400
Speaker 1: well we'll be off and running on July twenty six,

2902
02:23:47,440 --> 02:23:49,760
Speaker 1: they've report July twenty fifth. It's gonna be a quick,

2903
02:23:50,160 --> 02:23:53,720
Speaker 1: quick track to get there. Yeah, quick trek, quick training camp.

2904
02:23:53,760 --> 02:23:55,360
Speaker 1: Just a couple of two and a half weeks, maybe

2905
02:23:55,360 --> 02:23:59,200
Speaker 1: over at Saint John Fisher, but even so we'll be

2906
02:23:59,240 --> 02:24:01,800
Speaker 1: there covering it. Thanks, everybody's been a great week. One

2907
02:24:01,840 --> 02:24:04,320
Speaker 1: Bills Live from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you July ninth, Love you all, Bye,