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Speaker 1: and on Bloomberg Radio, Broadcasting live today at the Kimpton

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Speaker 1: the markets have had their eye on today and certainly

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Speaker 1: the three feed officials who are suggesting maybe rate hacks

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Speaker 1: What is going on in the Washington D C. Area?

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Speaker 1: How about people who left to go to the suburbs

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Speaker 1: trying to rush their way back into the district. Joining

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Speaker 1: us now is David Howell. He's c i O, it's

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Speaker 1: Chief information officer at McNerney Associates, a leading Washington d C.

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Speaker 1: Metro real estate company. Thanks for joining us today, David.

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Speaker 1: Thanks appreciate the operating to be here. So what is

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Speaker 1: the big trend now? I when I first came to

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Speaker 1: So long I started coming to Washington for work. I

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Speaker 1: was coming financial news in the fit. I remember what

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Speaker 1: the old district was like. It is so different now,

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Speaker 1: it really is, and and the trend has been with

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Speaker 1: real development and real boom in d C, and people

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Speaker 1: have been migrating more towards the district. There's been a

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Speaker 1: real huge development boom in d C, with huge development

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Speaker 1: towards apartments and condos um and particularly with orientation towards

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Speaker 1: apartments and condos without parking, without with any orientation towards

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Speaker 1: towards cars, which is a completely new development. David speak

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Speaker 1: about nightmare community, I'm wondering, what's the commune? Can it

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Speaker 1: be like tonight? How come long can people expect to

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Speaker 1: to stay in in traffic if let's say the whole

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Speaker 1: the city's in full swing. Well, and I think that's

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Speaker 1: part of what's driven the move towards the district people

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Speaker 1: that have been migrating from the outer suburbs. An hour

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Speaker 1: long community is not at all unusual, and particularly if

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Speaker 1: they're driving. And we've had some recent problems with Metro

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Speaker 1: in particular. Um and although they will get those problems fixed, UM,

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Speaker 1: it's washingt d C typically has the second longest commutes

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Speaker 1: hour and a half commutes are not unusual. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: we look earlier today to Mark Jinks. He's the city

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Speaker 1: manager for Harry and Alexandria, and he talked about I

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Speaker 1: asked him what was the biggest thing in his forty

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Speaker 1: years in managing, you know, urban development he's a city

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Speaker 1: manager here. Of course, the rail link for the Washington

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Speaker 1: C area. He said, it's made a big difference. Does

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Speaker 1: Washington d C need more of what you just described

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Speaker 1: dwellings that don't rely on cars and public transportation that

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Speaker 1: mose people around it does? And I think, UM, those

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Speaker 1: ones that have really prospered. Alexandria City, Arlington have done

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Speaker 1: that extremely well. Some of the outer suburbs of Fairfax

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Speaker 1: County they're learning they have not that done that quite

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Speaker 1: as well. They have not done as dense planning around

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Speaker 1: the metro stops as Arlington and Alexandria have. The Maryland

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Speaker 1: suburbs have done that probably better than some of the

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Speaker 1: Virginia suburbs have. They're learning. UM. The silver line out

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Speaker 1: through some of the areas in Fairfax County they've learned

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Speaker 1: and they're doing that better UM and they're profiting from it.

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Speaker 1: UM and So those closer in suburbs that did that

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Speaker 1: ones that are doing it now, they're going to prosper

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Speaker 1: in the long term. And the revitalization that you see,

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Speaker 1: on that, you bet? Again, those those areas that are

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Speaker 1: development in the very beginning, they've done very well. The

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Speaker 1: having to rethink their planning. Now. Where would you like

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Speaker 1: because frankly, those new met pro stops are really hard

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Speaker 1: to come by now because the land is so hard

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Speaker 1: to to purchase now, is so expensive to do UM.

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Speaker 1: I think, frankly, those new metro stops probably aren't going

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Speaker 1: to happen now. What's really going to happen now is

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Speaker 1: they simply have to rethink the zoning and the planning

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Speaker 1: around where those metro stops are now. So speaking of things,

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Speaker 1: getting more expensive, not going to new associates, your real

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Speaker 1: estate company. Prices go up, commissions get higher. Business must

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Speaker 1: to be really good. But what does it mean for

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Speaker 1: the potential home buyer and the potential home seller in

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Speaker 1: this area? You know, Ultimately markets seek balance over time,

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Speaker 1: and where we've seen this explosive growth in d C

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Speaker 1: um as compared to the suburbs ten years ago, in

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Speaker 1: the last boom, it was the suburbs that were booming

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Speaker 1: that it will seek balance over time. Um As prices

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Speaker 1: have gone up in d C. Ultimately, it's going to

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Speaker 1: reach a point where prices have come to a point

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Speaker 1: where people will start to move back more to the suburbs.

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Speaker 1: Not the suburbs are dead now. Is just a little

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Speaker 1: bit more affordable in the suburbs, and it will get

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Speaker 1: people will come back to the suburbs. New York City,

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Speaker 1: Coastal California. A lot of foreign he has come in

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Speaker 1: and help boost those prices. Is that happen in washing

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Speaker 1: not as much as it has in those other big cities.

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Speaker 1: Tell me about the issues that your customers are most

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Speaker 1: concerned about in an interest rate environment with low as

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Speaker 1: interest rates are now. Obviously rates are not the issue.

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Speaker 1: Down payment is the biggest issue for most of our folks.

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Speaker 1: Um And and not that that's an enormous issue, but

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Speaker 1: down payment is the bigger issue than payments. Well, David Hall,

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Speaker 1: we thank you so much for joining us today. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for the opportunity, appreciate being here. I was just gonna ask,

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Speaker 1: I want to. I just wanted to if there's one

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Speaker 1: to be different you come back in a year from

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Speaker 1: now or so on, what is the what do you

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Speaker 1: think is gonna be the biggest change here? I think

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Speaker 1: the biggest change here is going to be jobs, because

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Speaker 1: our biggest challenge here has been with the sequestration and

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Speaker 1: the cutbacks and defense spending UM that really arecipitated the

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Speaker 1: downturn in our market here. That's eventually going to get better.

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Speaker 1: So I think our market here is going to be

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Speaker 1: better a year from now than it is now. Um

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Speaker 1: And frankly, Northern Virginia market was impacted more to the

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Speaker 1: negative than most of our market because of the cutback

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Speaker 1: and defense spending. Contractors here are learning how to to

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Speaker 1: to adjust for that. So I think our market is

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Speaker 1: gonna be better a year from now than it is now.

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Speaker 1: Very interesting. Thank you very much, Thank you appreciated David Howell.

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Speaker 1: He is the chief information officer and executive vice president

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Speaker 1: of McInnerny Associates. They're based in Washington, d C. Thank

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