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Speaker 2: Sure it should be noted Mississippi State not generating big

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Speaker 1: It is looking at this schedule and the very early

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Cone Zone, Dan, Welcome to Coberc Island,

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Speaker 2: Don't know what's your read on the matchup. Because you've

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Speaker 2: I don't get that pick at all. I like Notre

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Speaker 2: best opponent in Week one, which you can understand mistakes,

431
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Speaker 2: you can understand uneven, inconsistent play a Notre Dame. The

432
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 2: better part of me, the more optimistic part of me,

433
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 2: wants to believe that they haven't want to show anything

434
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 2: against Purdue and Toledo in preparation for this game, that

435
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,959
Speaker 2: things are going to be a little bit more open

436
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 2: in this game. I like Notre Dame's defense. I don't

437
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 2: love Notre Dames defense. I like the back end, especially right.

438
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 2: Kyle Hamilton is a gravitational player that has to be

439
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 2: accounted for at all times. But I like Notre Dame's

440
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,439
Speaker 2: defense enough to the point where I'm more comfortable with

441
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 2: their combination of quarterback and defense because I don't know

442
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 2: what is your big Graham Mertz performance ever.

443
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Speaker 1: I know, I mean it might be week one of

444
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 1: last year, right, and that doesn't mean anything.

445
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 2: So I think Jack Cone and to whatever extent maybe

446
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 2: they use Tyler Buckner situationally, are in a better place.

447
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 2: Notre Dame has two running backs and Chess Mlucy's fine

448
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 2: so far, we'll see. Notre Dame has two running backs

449
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 2: who can affect things and generate bigger plays. They have

450
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 2: probably the best offensive weapon in this game in Michael Mayer. Right, Yes,

451
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 2: I think that's fairst dependable offensive skill player. And they've

452
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Speaker 2: had a receiver step up and Avery Davis. That's who

453
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 2: is the guy stepping up?

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Speaker 1: Yes, Avery Davis, Kevin Austen. If Jack Cone can throw

455
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: the ball anywhere near his catch radius, I think Kevin

456
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: Austin is in line for have guys, right, they have guys,

457
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Speaker 1: but it just doesn't seem like they're fully in sync yet.

458
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Speaker 1: And that was a huge question going into the season.

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Speaker 1: Who's going to catch passes outside of Michael Maher. You've

460
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Speaker 1: had different guys step up at different points so far

461
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Speaker 1: this season, but ultimately getting on the same page with

462
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Speaker 1: Jack Cone. The sooner that happens, the better for this offense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I don't know. I think Notre Dame

464
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 2: is going to be even with a new defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 2: I guess I would like Notre Dame more if Clark

466
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Speaker 2: Lee was still there. And what Jeremiah, I forget, I've

467
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 2: never been to thank you if he was still there.

468
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm going to go with Notre Dame protecting

469
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 2: themselves these last couple of weeks and doing a poor

470
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Speaker 2: job of obviously, and I think they show more on offense.

471
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 2: I think they're going to step up. Brian Kelly has

472
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 2: been better against ranked teams, savior laughs. I know the

473
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 2: playoff results better against ranked teams in these spots than

474
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 2: Paul Christ has been against the spread these last few years.

475
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 2: So I think Notre Name is just a better team.

476
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Speaker 2: This was a playoff team last year. And I'm not

477
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 2: a believer in Wisconsin's offense one thing. And this is

478
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Speaker 2: a final note. Yeah, I'm very curious to see and

479
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 2: we heard a lot about it in the preseason, and

480
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 2: everyone kind of furrowed their brow, like, how's he going

481
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 2: to pull this one off? But I do think this

482
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 2: is a game where we could see a lot of

483
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,239
Speaker 2: both Chris Tyree and Kyraen Williams in the backfield at

484
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Speaker 2: the same time.

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Speaker 1: Great. I think quick passes, swing passes, stuff like that

486
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Speaker 1: to get those guys in space. That's one way. There

487
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 1: are multiple ways, right, you can put a guy in

488
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Speaker 1: a slot. Chris Tyree could play in the slot and

489
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: take a screen pass, that sort of thing. But I

490
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: think some of those quick passes to get the ball

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Speaker 1: out of Jack Cones' hands, You're going to see more

492
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Speaker 1: of that, if only out of necessity, then they're just

493
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Speaker 1: going to have to because the Lion I do not

494
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Speaker 1: think can hold back Wisconsin. I got twenty one to seventeen.

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Speaker 1: What's your final? I have twenty four to twenty notre Dame. Wow. Okay,

496
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: well we agree on We agree in the margin, but

497
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Speaker 1: disagree on the result. Yep, moving on, Let's go to

498
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Speaker 1: three point thirty ESPN. Clemson is a ten point road

499
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Speaker 1: favorite at NC State. So some news this week. Tyler Davis,

500
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 1: the talented lineman for the Tigers. He's going to miss

501
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 1: up to eight weeks. He has torn biceps, which sounds

502
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 1: really painful. I'm sure it is. Yes, he was of

503
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: course expected to play a pretty key role along that

504
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: defensive front for Clemson. Clemson will be fine up there,

505
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 1: but it is notable since Tyler Davis is you know,

506
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: a name that I think they were looking forward to

507
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 1: seeing more out of one of the of that defense. Also, LYNDJ.

508
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: Dixon has entered the transfer portal, kind of fell out

509
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 1: of favor with the coaching staff after some disciplinary issues

510
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: prior to Week one. Didn't play, and obviously last week

511
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Speaker 1: we saw a little bit more out of wolf Shipley.

512
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 1: So good week Shortia. Yeah, I think Glenn J. Dixon

513
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: making the best move for him. But notable things on

514
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Speaker 1: the Clemson side, So as it presently stands Dan, I

515
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: looked up and down the Clemson schedule. I think this

516
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 1: is their toughest remaining game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, depending on how you feel about what at pit.

518
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 2: It's either NC State or pit.

519
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and pitches got dumped by Western Michigan, So take

520
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: that for whatever it's worth. This is really important because

521
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 1: I think we're at a place where the ground has

522
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,959
Speaker 1: shifted a little bit beneath Clemson, and we've got all

523
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: of our top teams showing some vulnerability, some more, some less,

524
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: but everybody seems more gettable than they have been in

525
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 1: recent years. If we are truly inching into chaos territory,

526
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: and if we get there, and strength of schedule means something,

527
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 1: means a lot more than it has recently. Clemson needs

528
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 1: to show out against some of these teams. You need

529
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: to get as many points on the board as they can.

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Speaker 1: They need to be killers out there.

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Speaker 2: Because you're putting Clemson in a playoff conversation with strength

532
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Speaker 2: of schedule right now, if you're comparing like this is

533
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Speaker 2: the context you're putting Clemson right now, I'm saying they

534
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 2: got to win these games, and they got to do

535
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Speaker 2: so handily, because if they are in that playoff discussion,

536
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Speaker 2: which I'm not convinced they will be.

537
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Speaker 1: I don't think they will be. These are the games

538
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Speaker 1: that are going to matter. Against NC State on the road,

539
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: against pitt on the road. Clemson does not have a

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00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 1: game against the team in the AP Top twenty five

541
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Speaker 1: at time of recording for the rest of the year,

542
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Speaker 1: so they got to make these count. They can't be

543
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: beaten teams fourteen to eight like they did last week

544
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Speaker 1: against Tech. They just can't Where are you at in

545
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Speaker 1: this game?

546
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Speaker 2: I'm going home dog here and that is saying. That

547
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 2: is all to say. I know Clemson has not allowed

548
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 2: a touchdown this year, exact correct, they have not no

549
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 2: the Clemson defense, specifically because Georgia had the pick six.

550
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: They have not allowed an offensive touchdown, which is a

551
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 2: pretty striking thing three weeks into the season. Granted you

552
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 2: look at their schedule and other than the Georgia game, yes,

553
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 2: they did not allow a touchdown.

554
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Speaker 1: To Georgia Tech.

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00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 2: I'm worried about this Clemson offense. I'm worried about the line.

556
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 2: I'm worried about Dju and his rhythm with the receivers.

557
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 2: I'm worried that they don't have and I know Justin

558
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 2: Ross is back, but they don't have the collection of

559
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 2: skill talent guys right now to put the fear of

560
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 2: life like they have in years past into teams. I'm

561
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 2: worried about that a little. They just the receiving corps

562
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 2: as a group. It looks different. I think the offense

563
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 2: is I don't know. It looked a little bit sluggish,

564
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Speaker 2: like if we're talking about Clemson as this is now

565
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 2: going back weeks, but if we're talking about Clemson in

566
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 2: a playoff context, they should be favored by more against

567
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 2: NC State, a team that hasn't really proven anything this year,

568
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 2: and they would have scored a touchdown against Georgia maybe

569
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 2: the other best defense in the country. I hear you

570
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 2: a touchdown, a touchdown, and so I'm worried about this offense.

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Speaker 2: I think they're going to be fine, but I think

572
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Speaker 2: I don't know if heads are going to roll or

573
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 2: anything like that, but I think things are going to

574
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 2: need to be reevaluated to make life easier for dju

575
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 2: Well as it stands right now, he looks uncomfortable.

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Speaker 1: So what's your final? Is Clemson winning this game or

577
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Speaker 1: are they just not? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I think I think Clemson wins this game. What's the

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Speaker 2: line at the moment, I have a ten eleven points? Yeah, okay,

580
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 2: I have NC State. I have that defense making it

581
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 2: close enough. If Georgia Tech's defense, granted there were delays

582
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 2: and weather whatever, Georgia Tech's defense quote unquote, showed something

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Speaker 2: that Clemson wasn't expecting, like a bunch of they were

584
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 2: dropping a bunch of dudes, and like Cloud covered, I

585
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Speaker 2: think NSCI State's defense is better. Well, NCI State's defense

586
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 2: is considerably better than Georgia Techs. Yeah, and so I

587
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 2: think they're going to confuse Clem. I'm gonna take the

588
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 2: points here. I think I think twenty eight to twenty

589
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 2: or not even to I don't think they just score

590
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 2: twenty points. So I'm saying twenty three thirteen.

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00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: Does that cover it?

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Speaker 2: I don't know now, one thirteen, yeah, okay, I'll say

593
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 2: twenty one thirteen and wow. I think Clemson's different. I

594
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: think they're fine. I just think they're kind of a

595
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 2: nine and three ten and two even with that schedule. Yeah, whoa,

596
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 2: I will say ten and we'll say a disappointing.

597
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: Ten and two. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't know where it's coming from. I couldn't tell you. Look,

599
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: they might be they might go eleven to one. They've

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00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 2: already lost one, so saying ten and two is not

601
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 2: a big deal. That means they're just dropping one of these,

602
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 2: you know, games to a decent opponent, but nothing really good. Jeez, man,

603
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 2: I'm telling you something's off with this Clemson offense. I'm

604
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 2: just I can only go with my eyeballs and now.

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Speaker 1: I just look it's it's it's fair criticism, and I

606
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: don't think you're alone. When I put this document together,

607
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: the line came out at eleven. I saw it as

608
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: low as nine at one point, So it's kind of

609
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: settled now with Clemson ten. But I think other people

610
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: were seeing that too and saying that's just a lot

611
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Speaker 1: of points at home against a Clemson offense that we

612
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: just don't really know enough about at this point. Also,

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Speaker 1: it should not be understated this is a gigantic spot

614
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: for NC State, huge spot for NC State. They went

615
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: on the road, they looked like crap against Mississippi State.

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Speaker 1: Ten years ago they beat Clemson at home and that

617
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: was the Tom O'Brien era. Was the last time they

618
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,239
Speaker 1: beat Clemson. So this is kind of like nearly did

619
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: it a few years ago. Early, different couple years ago,

620
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: but this is a big spot for them. I I

621
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Speaker 1: look back at last week, it was a weird game

622
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Speaker 1: and I think to myself, if that did not light

623
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Speaker 1: a fire under this collection of five star talent, I

624
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: don't know what will. I think. I'm a picks perspective.

625
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: People want to pick NC State because people like picking underdogs.

626
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: It's fun to root against the perennial favorite. If we

627
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: are being honest with ourselves, though, there is no reason

628
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: Clemson shouldn't cover this point spread. Dan and I say

629
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: that Cleon, what do we I'm okay, there's no reason,

630
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: with the talent that they have that they should not

631
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: cover this points spread. And I say that as somebody

632
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: who's been very high on NC State. You know this

633
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: all season long, even before the year. Clemson's defense is

634
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Speaker 1: three games in. As he said, the front seven is

635
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: a brick wall, and it's going to be able to

636
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Speaker 1: I think take away the strength of the senci State offense,

637
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: which is the running game mm hmm. Yeah, it's on

638
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: a night person yep. And that's exactly what Mississippi State did. Frankly,

639
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: they turned it over to Devin Leary. He had to

640
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: throw the ball nearly fifty times. They still only managed

641
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: ten points in that game. I like dev Ley, but

642
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: if this offense turns that one dimensional against Clemson, forget it.

643
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: So I think they're gonna have trouble moving the football

644
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: even despite the loss of Tyler Davis. They'll be fine

645
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 1: up front. Clemson's defense as a brick wall Canancy State's

646
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: defense make life difficult for DJU? Yeah, I think there's

647
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: some validity to that as well. Is a very good defense.

648
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: But even if they hold clemsonto twenty one points, this

649
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: is where Tony Gibbs. Tony Gibson's the decordinator now of

650
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: Venci State, right, Yeah, an interesting track record. I like them.

651
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: If they hold clemsonto twenty one points, it'd be amazing.

652
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: But even if they hold them to, say, twenty one points,

653
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: are we confident Nancy State can score more than ten?

654
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: I'm not, Okay, I'm not. I've got Clemson twenty seven

655
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: to seven, and I don't know if it looks pretty

656
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 1: or not. It may not, but I think defensively, people

657
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: are selling this Clemson defense up the I get it.

658
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: I get it. On offense, they got some stuff to

659
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: work out. That was probably always going to be the

660
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: case when you move away from Trevor Lawrence. Right, Maybe

661
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: we thought it'd be better at this point, but will

662
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: Shipley looked very promising a week ago. I just I'm

663
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: not ready to bail on this team quite yet. It

664
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: is not the same Clemson team. You are right about that.

665
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: But Clemson wins. They cover twenty seven to seven, led

666
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 1: by defense.

667
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 2: Do you think they go through unscathed that they finished

668
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 2: as an eleven and one team in the conversation for

669
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 2: the playoff?

670
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: Unclear? We need that scratch and sniff this week, Dan,

671
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm not sure yet.

672
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 2: This By the way, if you are, if you are

673
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 2: down on Clemson, I wouldn't qualify what I am is

674
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 2: down on Clemson. I just am looking at them. I

675
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 2: think in a similar way to you. It was just

676
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 2: like something different, something off. Yeah, there's so much value

677
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: in betting against Clemson. Oh yeah, this is when you

678
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 2: really have to if you believe it. If you believe it,

679
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 2: the lines are going to be inflated for a good

680
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 2: chunk of the year. And you know, maybe Clemson is

681
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 2: merely very good and not great because of that defense

682
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 2: and they're just not going to cover because they're gonna

683
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 2: get a lot of benefit from Vegas.

684
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:03,760
Speaker 1: But it's true.

685
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is this is the biggest thing.

686
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 2: I don't know what the weather is. If you want

687
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 2: to pull up the weather report for Raleigh, I do

688
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 2: go Cardinal Bar here. By the way, home dog looks excellent,

689
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 2: like you want a chili dog and like a buttered

690
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 2: split top bun Cardinal Bar looks amazing in Raleigh. I

691
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 2: just I don't know, there's a there's an element to

692
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 2: these top teams to Alabama to Clemson in Ohio state

693
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 2: where there's this expectation or like next killer up at quarterback, right,

694
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 2: So it's like Dwayne Haskins, next killer up, Justin Fields,

695
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 2: next killer up.

696
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 1: CJ.

697
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 2: Stroud struggling, you know, just not the same. Good but

698
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 2: not the same. And there's this element of Clemson with

699
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 2: whatever Taj Boyd and eventually Deshaun Watson after it was

700
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 2: strouds something, Yeah, cul Stout, Yeah, Kelly Bryant was fine

701
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 2: but was not the killer. But then Trevor Lawrence. We're

702
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 2: just like there's this expectation like who's the next Trevor

703
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 2: Lawrence is dju of course, whereas Trevor Lawrence is like

704
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 2: a generational talent coming out of high school. So I

705
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 2: think it's you know, our fault as fans for just

706
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 2: making an assumption about you know, this is this is

707
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 2: Clemson's new capital G guy, where I think it's going

708
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: to take some time to figure out how to craft

709
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 2: an offense around him, and not that he can just

710
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 2: do whatever is asked. So that's why, that's why I'm

711
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 2: rolling with the good defense at home in what I

712
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 2: expect to be a very difficult atmosphere. Nice and clear,

713
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 2: by the way in Raleigh seventy seven, partly cloudy, that's fine,

714
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 2: it's great.

715
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: CBS three thirty Texas A and M minus five and

716
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: a half, neutral site game in Jerry's World in Arlington

717
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: against the Arkansas Razorbacks Dan. So this is a I

718
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 1: think fair to say, much bigger game than we expected

719
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: just a few short weeks ago. A. We've got A

720
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: and M without Haines King still recovering from his injury.

721
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: Both teams are three and zero. Arkansas is a top

722
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: twenty five team, which is awesome for them. Yeah, kJ Jefferson,

723
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: I think looks really good. The line open at six

724
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: and a half. It's down a point for what it's worth.

725
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: Our people, arver ballers, excuse me over in the discord,

726
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: have been saying that five and a half feels like

727
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: a lot of points. How do you feel about this one?

728
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: I love the Hogs, of course you do.

729
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say It's Saint Bernard's Saturday, and with

730
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 2: arguably the hottest contested matchup these past few years, it's

731
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 2: been neutral sych game, but just weird matchups. Even when

732
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 2: arkansass down, they bring their best for texts A and M.

733
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 2: We're getting Barry Otum and the best explosive play prevention

734
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 2: defense against a backup quarterback for an A and M

735
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 2: offense that has struggled at times. He was fine last week.

736
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 2: I think it was New Mexico that they shut out.

737
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 2: The strength of this A and M team very clearly

738
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 2: is the defense. It's an incredible defense. They have playmakers

739
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 2: on offense, but they're going to win games largely because

740
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 2: of their defense, and I guess not screwing up on

741
00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 2: offense with a backup quarterback. Zach Cal's otus seems fine,

742
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 2: but he wasn't named the starter. He's not the best

743
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 2: they have. So situationally, I think Arkansas will keep it

744
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 2: low scoring. They'll run the ball well enough with various

745
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 2: options including kJ Jefferson, and I think Arkansas's front on

746
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 2: defense is going to annoy A and M up front

747
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 2: their offensive line.

748
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: I like the Hogs.

749
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 2: I like situationally, neutral site, good defense, great defensive coordinator,

750
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 2: ability to run the ball, energy, enthusiasm. I think A

751
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 2: and M is a good team. I'm going hogs here.

752
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 2: You give me those elements as a dog. Come on, gobble, gobble, I'm.

753
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: Riding Dan over there. Huh okay, Sauer Kraut Saturday. Listen, eh,

754
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: when you look at the numbers, everything everything right now

755
00:39:55,760 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: screams Arkansas. H screams Arkansas. Plus they've looked good. They

756
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: really have. A and M lost the quarterback. If you

757
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 1: don't think that is going to stir up some public

758
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: support for Arkansas, nothing will. But we here at the

759
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 1: altar of tie. We're always sound. Totem of thie, totem

760
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: of thie. We're always sound, We're always rational. That's why

761
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: we picked Arizona State as a Legit Pack twelve contender.

762
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: No one else did, just us the altar of tie.

763
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 1: The Arizona State team that just lost to BYU Texas.

764
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: A and M is my sixteen penalties. Sixteen penalties. A

765
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: and M is my buzzkill pick of the week. Swat

766
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: that fly. I'm being facetious about Arizona State. By the way,

767
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if that came across here my sarcasm voice.

768
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: Forgive me, Daniel if I am not moved by games

769
00:40:55,400 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 1: against Rice and Georgia Southern. Forgive me, Dan, I'm sorry.

770
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: Forgive me. If I'm not, they not destroy Texas. Forgive me,

771
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: I am not. Texas has been mister softy for a decade. Now.

772
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: You think they're running for three hundred and thirty some

773
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 1: odd yards against this A and M front? No, of

774
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: course not. I don't think so Eithery're good. They're not

775
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: going to be able to push A and M around

776
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: like the other cupcakes on this schedule. Dan, Okay, so

777
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: what happens if Arkansas wins? What happens? If they win?

778
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: It'd be great good for them? Are you? Are you

779
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: will that convince you? Right?

780
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 2: Their schedule hasn't convinced you thus far, Texas hasn't convinced you.

781
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 2: Or you're gonna say, well it was against a backup Courton,

782
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 2: backup quarterback. No, look, this is there gonna be. Are

783
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 2: you going to turn over a new leaf and respect

784
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 2: the Hogs?

785
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 1: I do respect the Hogs. I don't think you do.

786
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: I respect the Hogs. I don't think they're winning this game.

787
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: I think the defense is too good. I think the

788
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,479
Speaker 1: defense is too good. A and M is good enough

789
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: upfront to take away the run. They're gonna take away

790
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: the run. They're gonna spy kJ Jefferson. They're gonna make

791
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: him win it with his arm. I haven't seen enough

792
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: of kJ Jefferson to know if he can do that.

793
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: I hope he can. I'm rooting for him do that.

794
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: But now, come on, what's the line five and a half?

795
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: Did you see enough of A and M barely escaping

796
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: a game against Colorado? Did you see that? That not

797
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 1: move you to any sign. We're talking about the past.

798
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: We're here to talk about the future. You literally just

799
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: were talking about Arkansas schedule. A and M's the better team,

800
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 1: better players on both offense and defense, the defenses of

801
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 1: brick frickin' wall. Ignore the noise people listening at home,

802
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: Ignore that guy over there, big dog Dan. This is

803
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 1: gonna be a rough game for kJ Jefferson. Wu Pig Fooie.

804
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: Give me A and M to win outright. I think

805
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: they cover the spread by two touchdowns. It will be interesting, though,

806
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: will be interesting to see what Arkansas does in their

807
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: next four games, because they've got A and M. This week,

808
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: They're at Georgia, at Ole Miss, and then back home

809
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: against Auburn, So four really big weeks here for this

810
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: hog squad, but I really like A and M here. Okay,

811
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do a home dog because neither

812
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: team is technically playing at home. That's correct. Sorry, seven

813
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 1: thirty ABC, we got West Virginia going on the road

814
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: at Oklahoma. Oklahoma here by sixteen points. Stan, Why is

815
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: this line so low? You think this is too low?

816
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: Why is this lines too low? Do you think it's

817
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: too low? No?

818
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 2: I don't think it's too low. I mean Lincoln Riley

819
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 2: Oklahoma teams don't cover. They're not They're a toss up

820
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 2: team covering the spread. It's not like they've proven themselves

821
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 2: like Alabama or Georgia or any of these teams that

822
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 2: these past few years have really run away from perceived

823
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 2: lesser teams. Oklahoma doesn't cover. I think Lincoln Riley is

824
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 2: hovering somewhere around fifty percent as like a home favorite.

825
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 2: So no, I don't think it's a crazy line. I

826
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 2: think West Virginia is a hot and cold team. I

827
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,479
Speaker 2: think they're able to make plays on defense, They're able

828
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 2: to run the ball. I just think there's an element

829
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 2: to this game where Oklahoma is trying to tell us

830
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 2: they're merely good, not great.

831
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: They're doing. They're like on the hostage video blinking morse

832
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: code to tell.

833
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 2: Us right, like it's one of those things as well.

834
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 2: It's the next killer up right where we're comparing Spencer Rattler,

835
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 2: probably justifiably so, to Kyler Murray, to Baker Mayfield, and

836
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 2: to Jalen Hurtz, who when I talked about this, I

837
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 2: will be appearing on the Andy Staples Show tomorrow. I

838
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 2: think it goes up or today as you're listening, I

839
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 2: don't know. Wednesday we talked about this on the show

840
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: where Spencer Ratler is being appreciated because of his supreme

841
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 2: arm talent and ability to make the throws that he

842
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 2: can make and the logo don't forget the low and

843
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 2: the snake logo thank you. What if he is merely

844
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 2: really good and not transcendent? And I think there's this

845
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:15,760
Speaker 2: element to Oklahoma right now where they operate in fits

846
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 2: and starts, where they can be stopped, where the running

847
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 2: game isn't where it was with the killers that they

848
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 2: used to have and they don't have. And you know,

849
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 2: I've been saying this over and over again. They have

850
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 2: good receivers, do they have a gravitational one is it,

851
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 2: Marvin Mims, whoever Jaden Hazel would it doesn't appear so,

852
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 2: it doesn't appear so at the moment. So I think

853
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 2: West Virginia is above average enough that they can keep

854
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 2: this to within a couple touchdowns. You might look at

855
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 2: it as a net crack game. You're confused by the

856
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 2: low line. Lincoln Riley is not dependable in terms of

857
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 2: blowing out competent teams. So I'm going to take the points.

858
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 2: I think they win this by a couple of touchdowns,

859
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 2: but it's too many points.

860
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: I feel like the line's too low, and I know

861
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 1: that per my own code, that would be a rule

862
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: to UH indication to steer into it and take West Virginia.

863
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: I just don't buy it. I don't.

864
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 2: It's probably is not as good on the road, for sure. No,

865
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 2: I understand where you're at.

866
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 1: They're not. Oklahoma had a down week against a decent

867
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 1: enough defense in Nebraska a week ago. Nebraska had a

868
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 1: very clear game plan. It took away the big play

869
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: that could be a blueprint for other teams. I don't know.

870
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: We'll see what West Virginia is able to do in

871
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 1: this road game, but I don't see Oklahoma being held

872
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: under like thirty five points two straight weeks. I just

873
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: I don't see it. I am not at all convinced

874
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 1: on this West Virginia offense outside of Letty Brown. Leeddy

875
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: Brown's really good, but Jared Daggi on the road, big

876
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: night game in Norman, I don't know. I'm not feeling it.

877
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: I think it's like a twenty one point win for Oklahoma.

878
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: If you want to bet against Oklahoma, by the way,

879
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: the week to do that's next week on the road

880
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 1: at k State, a week before the Red River shootout.

881
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 1: Even though it's a bit of a revenge spot for them,

882
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: I understand that. I think that would be the week

883
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:10,280
Speaker 1: to bet against Oklahoma, but not this week, not in primetime.

884
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:14,720
Speaker 1: I think last week gave them a sufficient enough scare

885
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: that they will come out guns of blazon. So I

886
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: got Oklahoma, you know, like forty two to seventeen. I

887
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: think they win handily.

888
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley ten and eleven as a home favorite since

889
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen, and in terms of hitting the over, if

890
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 2: that's something more attractive to you, because you mentioned thirty

891
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 2: five points that you don't see them scoring fewer than that.

892
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 2: Oklahoma is twenty five and sixteen overall hitting the over

893
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 2: since twenty eighteen, and as a home favorite, Oklahoma is

894
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 2: fourteen and six. So if you like Oklahoma in this one,

895
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 2: maybe the over is the move. Maybe you're the mayor

896
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 2: of Trends City over there. Come on, come on, old fast,

897
00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:00,439
Speaker 2: Dan Rubinstein. Yeah, let's go some quick hits here, really quick.

898
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 1: We got a bunch of other games that we want

899
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 1: to discuss. Start about the Iron Skillet game, Daniel.

900
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 2: Was this the game that actually inspired you to get

901
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 2: into cast Iron?

902
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: Did we like?

903
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 2: Was that a tangent that we went on because of

904
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 2: this matchup? Because now you're a cast Iron chef Dejore?

905
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: I am a cast Iron chef Djore. I don't think

906
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: it was this game in particular. Okay, I think I

907
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: bought an iron skillet and I did not know the

908
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: nuances of it that you need to oil it and

909
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 1: caress it and be nice to it and take care

910
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: of it as if it were a living creature for

911
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: your sirrit Saturday. That's right. And now that I know that,

912
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: I'm kind of hooked good. But it's a great tie

913
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: into this game. It's at high noon, It's SMU, it's TCU,

914
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: TCUs about a ten point home favorite. They do play

915
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: this one for the iron skillet or really cool rivalry trophy. SMU.

916
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 1: You'll recall one on the quasi Hail Mary last week

917
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 1: to keep them unbeaten. Hell Mary. Yeah. Yeah. Tanner Mordecai,

918
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: by the way, leads the country. He has sixteen touchdown

919
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: passes in three games. Did you know that I did?

920
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: Not good for him? Happy to hear it. I really

921
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: like SMU's talent on offense, and I really like TCU

922
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: on offense as well, especially Zach Evans. I like TCU

923
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: to win the game. I'm not sure about the ten points.

924
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 1: I could see this one being back and forth. I'm

925
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: still not for as much as I love TCU and

926
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: Zach Evans and Max dug In and Gary Patterson, I

927
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: am not at all convinced in their ability to separate.

928
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 1: They couldn't separate against Cal and that's trouble sorright. Col's

929
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 1: got a better defense than SMU. To be Fowls defense

930
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 1: is not all that great this year, but continue still

931
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: better than SMU's. Yeah, rivalry game, TCU wins, but they

932
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 1: don't cover the ten I think I agree with you.

933
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 2: I'm I just don't know anything about TCU. They've played

934
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 2: two games, they're coming off of a bye week before

935
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 2: a rivalry game. I think I'm gonna roll with the

936
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 2: frogs here, and I hate that I'm doing it, but

937
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 2: because I don't know, and like we know the cal game,

938
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 2: that's it. That's all we have to go on right now.

939
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 2: And so that scratch and sniff, right, But it's there

940
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,879
Speaker 2: is a belief system element to taking TCU here. There's

941
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 2: a letdown element, but they're not going to be let

942
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 2: down ahead a rivalrying game against a big twelve team.

943
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 2: There's a letdown element just in terms of emotional exhaustion

944
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 2: after winning the way that SMU did, and TCU is

945
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 2: coming off of a bye week, so there's a rest advantage,

946
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 2: belief system and Situationally, I like TCU. I just haven't

947
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 2: seen anything the last couple of years that has me

948
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 2: thinking TCU is double digits better than a decent you

949
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 2: should pick SMU here. I'm still going back and forth.

950
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 2: I didn't have a decision going into it. I mean,

951
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:45,760
Speaker 2: I've highlighted on my sheet SMU, okay, but I'm talking

952
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 2: myself into TCU and that's where.

953
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: Things go wrong. Give me the Mustangs here twelve pm ABC,

954
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 1: Texas Tech at Texas another lone star state showdown. Texas

955
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: favored by eight and a half. This one opened around

956
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 1: ten and a half eleven and got hammered down to

957
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: eight and a half. I was actually pretty high on

958
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 1: Tech before the start of the season because I think

959
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: the defense could actually be sneaky good if I remember correctly.

960
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 1: The Vegas over under for Tech for wins was something

961
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 1: like four and a half, which I felt low. To me.

962
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: That always felt like the worst case scenario. They've already

963
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,280
Speaker 1: got three wins. I don't know if they beat Texas.

964
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: I think they can hang with Texas. I really do.

965
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: Tyler Schuck looked good last week. Not the same level

966
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: of talent on the other side of the field, for sure,

967
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 1: But I just think I like points here more than anything.

968
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what version of Texas we get. Texas

969
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 1: Tech is probably good enough to bottle up that run

970
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: game to some extent. And if they can do that,

971
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: what is Casey Thompson or Hudson card or whoever is

972
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 1: out there for Texas looked like throwing the football into

973
00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 1: a halfway decent defense, So give me the point.

974
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna take points as well. It worries

975
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 2: me a little that they got things going with a

976
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 2: different quarterback. And it's a similar situation right with Stanford,

977
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 2: where you're like, well, they didn't look good in Week one,

978
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 2: but was it a Jack West thing? Because they've looked

979
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 2: a lot better with Tanner McKee.

980
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: Man the improved.

981
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 2: We think we believe Texas Tech defense. They've played what

982
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 2: I mean what Houston FIU and Steven F.

983
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 1: Austin.

984
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 2: I can be talked into the fact that they didn't

985
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 2: show anything against Steven F. Austin, but they were pretty

986
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 2: mistake prone in escaping that game with a win. You're

987
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 2: believing in a Texas team that's given you no real

988
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 2: reason to believe. You said it open in double digits

989
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,919
Speaker 2: and it was met down to like eight and a half. Yep,

990
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,760
Speaker 2: I think I'm just gonna go Tech in a shootout,

991
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 2: take the points.

992
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: This is feeling like an insecure day and Saturday right

993
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: now it is in secre Well I'm taking another dog,

994
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: but not a home Yeah.

995
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 2: I just there's tough the Texas tackling issues now. The

996
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 2: thing is Tech can quietly run the ball, we think hopefully,

997
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 2: and that could prove to be a problem because Texas

998
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 2: just there. It's a greased pig situation with what they're

999
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 2: doing in the open field. So yeah, I'm gonna that

1000
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 2: is a known quality that Texas hasn't fixed yet to me.

1001
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go to Texas Tech to score enough

1002
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 2: to I think Texas wins this game because it's at home.

1003
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 2: I think they'll win by four to six points, so

1004
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 2: something like thirty eight thirty four. But yeah, I'm gonna

1005
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 2: take the points.

1006
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: All right. We got other games to get through. Let's

1007
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: go through. Rutgers at Michigan. Michigan favored by eighteen and

1008
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: one half points. Dan Bluck of the Week. This is

1009
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,040
Speaker 1: one of two games that Michigan won last year. We

1010
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 1: all got a good belly laugh at their expense otherwise,

1011
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 1: but barely barely won this game last year. Rutgers was feisty,

1012
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: weren't they They were? They were fisy, something like forty

1013
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: eight to forty two. I think there's a good chance

1014
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: that Michigan absolutely destroys Rutgers in this game by like

1015
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: thirty five points. They have been so good on the ground.

1016
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: Rutgers has been a good story. But I just think

1017
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: Michigan's in a different place right now. They're very much

1018
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 1: playing within themselves. Maybe that will change as they get

1019
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: into the teeth of their schedule. I know the competition

1020
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: so far hasn't been top flight, but they did play

1021
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 1: Washington against good Washington defense and they scored thirty one points.

1022
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: I feel really good about where this Michigan team's at.

1023
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna run the crap out of the ball,

1024
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 1: and I think they're gonna pound Ruckers. You're not impressed

1025
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: with Rutgers three and zero at the moment. It's just

1026
00:54:54,480 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: a sample sized thing. Yeah, Temple, Syracuse, Delaware. I like

1027
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 1: Michigan a good deal here. I yeah, Rutgers has. If

1028
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 1: Rutgers was winning with stout defense, they get off the

1029
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 1: field pretty well. But again it's.

1030
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 2: Sample sizing the teams that they've actually played. They haven't

1031
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 2: been great against the run. I think Michigan quite literally

1032
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 2: runs away with it. I have at like, you know,

1033
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:18,240
Speaker 2: fifty five fourteen.

1034
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 1: They kill them, absolutely kill them. So we agree, but

1035
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: they do.

1036
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 2: It is a look ahead spot, to be fair, They're

1037
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 2: at Wisconsin the week after. Correct, Even if it's a

1038
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 2: look ahead spot, if the break foot off the break

1039
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 2: up a couple touchdowns late.

1040
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know, No, I'm all in a

1041
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: Michigan this week as my first of two Michigan locks.

1042
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: Not to give time the way God I love it.

1043
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 1: Continue three point thirty Iowa State minus seven and a

1044
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:55,399
Speaker 1: half at Baylor. Where's my sound the Yakos home dog

1045
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 1: of the week. I don't know if they got a

1046
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: Yako's in Waco, but maybe they shoul should start one.

1047
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,760
Speaker 1: We haven't talked much about Baylor because they've played Texas State,

1048
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:11,280
Speaker 1: Texas Southern, and Kansas so far. Speaking of limited sample size,

1049
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what to make of this offense. It's

1050
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: really hard to say given that competition. But they run

1051
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 1: the ball. That's the run the ball on a per

1052
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 1: play basis. I know the defense has actually been pretty good,

1053
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 1: better than Iowa State's. And I would also keep in

1054
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 1: mind that this is a game that Baylor lost by

1055
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 1: seven on the road last year. They're feisty in this

1056
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: game a year ago. I am concerned about the Iowa

1057
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 1: State offense and Brock Purty, and I think Baylor will

1058
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: come to play. I've got the David Randa defense at

1059
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: home to cover this point spread to win the freaking

1060
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,280
Speaker 1: game outright. Give me Baylor.

1061
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 2: You know what I love about you, I mean everything

1062
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 2: pretty verach, but this specifically ty previews Baylor. I am

1063
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 2: down on Baylor. I don't see Baylor playing well in

1064
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 2: big games at all. Baylor plays nobody and looks okay

1065
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 2: in two of those three games up at halftime barely

1066
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 2: against Kansas. Do not question the totem of Tye. They

1067
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 2: sneak by Texas State. Maybe sneak by is a little aggressive,

1068
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 2: but that was not a pretty win, and they beat

1069
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 2: up on Texas Southern. So here we are with a

1070
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 2: Baylor team that has been sort of one note on

1071
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 2: offense and has beaten up on nobody, and Tye has

1072
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 2: completely reversed his stance on Baylor with no worthwhile evidence

1073
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,919
Speaker 2: that would point you to believing to do so. I'm

1074
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 2: just going to take Iowa State here. I think this

1075
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 2: is a scratch and sniff game. I think you have

1076
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 2: been seduced by meaningless results and Iowa State has been fine.

1077
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 2: They lost to an Iowa team that probably has one

1078
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 2: of the best three defenses in the country, seven defenses

1079
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 2: in the country, whatever it is.

1080
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: And you know what, to be fair, Iowa State looked

1081
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 1: really good against Northern Iowa too to start the year.

1082
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 1: I forgot about that game. They're really solid, sixteen to

1083
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: ten something like that.

1084
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 2: Took it to UNLV last week. But like, what is

1085
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 2: your reason? What is if this is a Tracy Chapman

1086
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 2: question posed to you, what is your reason for Baylor

1087
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 2: against Iowa State? Specifically? Is there a matchup? Do you

1088
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 2: think they're going to run all over Iowa State's defense,

1089
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 2: Because it's not like Iowa succeeded against Iowa State's defense.

1090
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 2: They had it was field position, it was turnover situation, whatever,

1091
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 2: which is part of the game. But it's not like

1092
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 2: Iowa State like appeared to be really good heading into

1093
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 2: the season and then was gashed all the time by

1094
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 2: Northern Iowa or Iowa or Iowa or wherever.

1095
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 1: Their defense is not really good. It is why is

1096
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: Iowa State look so damn flat? They had the world

1097
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:49,959
Speaker 1: at their fingertips going into this season and they've looked

1098
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 1: like freaking flat soda for the first three weeks of

1099
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 1: the year. Brock Perty got pulled. He did once and

1100
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: his backup played again a week later, which is fine,

1101
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: but he has not looked at all the party like

1102
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: the brock Star that we've talked about in the past.

1103
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 1: He's looked very shaky, and so I just think on

1104
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: some level, you're going on the road to a place

1105
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: where say what you want about Baylor, and I have.

1106
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: I was not a Baylor fan going into the year.

1107
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 1: I'm still not really a big Baylor fan. But they

1108
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: are playing hard. They were fisy last year. I think

1109
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 1: they're feisty again this year. I don't know what their

1110
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 1: offense is gonna be, but I think the defense is

1111
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 1: good enough to at least make this a game. So

1112
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 1: I got him out right have fun with that. We disagree.

1113
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 1: I always state wins this game by a couple touchdowns

1114
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: six pm UCLA minus. I have five and a half

1115
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: on my sheet. I saw it at four. I don't

1116
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: know where this line's at, but their favorite recommendation for

1117
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 1: you is I think Dave's Burger Barn in Waco. Since

1118
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: you're all in on the home dog, we go to

1119
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 1: six pm UCLA minus five and a half minus four

1120
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 1: or I saw at one point. I don't know what

1121
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 1: the line is, it doesn't matter. Yeah, favorite on the

1122
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 1: road at Stanford. What do you make of this one?

1123
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 1: I went all off season long thinking that Stanford was

1124
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: gonna stink. Yeah, and they they've surprised me. They've looked Okay,

1125
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: I think at first blush. I definitely like Ucla here,

1126
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 1: played a good team last week, probably should have won

1127
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 1: that game if not for the defense sort of bailing

1128
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 1: on them for their team. Yeah. Yeah, let's put it

1129
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 1: this way. I don't think that Stanford has the offense

1130
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 1: of Fresno, and so for that reason, I guess I

1131
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: go Ucla.

1132
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 2: But I could probably be talked out of that. Tanner

1133
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 2: m Key is really good. Tanner Key is really good.

1134
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 2: And it's another season for Stanford in which they're like

1135
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 2: the one hundred and twenty eighth best rushing team efficiency

1136
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 2: wise and the number one explosive rushing team, back to

1137
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 2: like the Bryce Love numbers. Nathaniel Pete, it's been really

1138
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 2: fun to watch. You're right in your evaluation of Stanford

1139
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 2: that they don't necessarily have the firepower on offense to

1140
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,919
Speaker 2: me out wide, perhaps that that Fresno does. And I'm

1141
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 2: not a fan of Stanford's defense, So I am taking

1142
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 2: Ucla to bounce back here, and now I understand, you know,

1143
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a letdown situation. But an

1144
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 2: emotional loss last week to Fresno the way that they

1145
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 2: lost last second they thought they had the game won

1146
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 2: and gave up that sort of stop route touchdown late.

1147
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 2: I think UCLA is just a better team. Stanford's not

1148
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 2: a terribly difficult place to play. I think Ucla is

1149
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 2: well coached. I think they're good on the lines. I'm

1150
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 2: not going to abandon Zach Sharboney if he's healthy, whatever.

1151
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna go with the better team here in

1152
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 2: a place that I don't think is terribly difficult to win.

1153
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, give me the Bruins.

1154
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: Seven pm. We've got case State on the road at

1155
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State. Oklahoma State favored by six d in this

1156
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 1: one opened at nine and came down. The Pokes are

1157
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 1: three and zero. But they've beaten Missouri State, Tulsa and

1158
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 1: Boise by a thirteen points, so they've won. But separating

1159
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 1: from those teams has been a real problem. They've also

1160
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 1: got injury concerns. Now. I haven't seen an update on

1161
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 1: their wide receiving core. I don't know if they're going

1162
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 1: to be back in a little bit more healthy than

1163
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 1: they were against Boise. But just as like a personal

1164
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 1: rule here, I don't think I'm taking Oklahoma State to

1165
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 1: cover anything until they're a little healthier from a skill

1166
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 1: talent standpoint on offense, so I think they win. I

1167
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 1: don't know that for sure. I'm much more confident just

1168
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 1: go in points here in KSE State. Extremely close game

1169
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 1: last year with a beat up k State. Oklahoma State

1170
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 1: does not score a second half touchdown or any points

1171
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 1: at all against Boise State. Correct Will Howard looked decent

1172
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 1: enough as a dual threat guy last week, and they

1173
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 1: still have the short Douce Van. I'm just impressed with

1174
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 1: what Kansas State's been doing at the line of scrimmage. Now,

1175
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 1: granted it was Nevada, different talent level whatever. Their offense

1176
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 1: is really strong, No pun intended.

1177
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 2: I am going to go Okay State here to cover

1178
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 2: this game. I think Oklahoma State pulls it out. They

1179
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 2: went it by a field goal or something like that.

1180
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 2: I think it's low scoring and it's another twenty eighteen,

1181
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 2: twenty one to seventeen type finals, so I'm gonna take

1182
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 2: the points. Not a home dog, unfortunately, but sat Bernard.

1183
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 1: Saturday continues seven pm Nebraska at Michigan State. Michigan State

1184
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 1: favored by five block of the week. Let's go Sparti, Baby,

1185
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 1: I am riding the Sparti train. I think if this

1186
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 1: game we're at noon, I might worry about some kind

1187
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 1: of hangover effect after that Miami game. I don't know,

1188
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 1: but it's a nightcap. They're going to be fired up

1189
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 1: for the big ten opener. I do think this will

1190
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 1: be a close game most of the way, and I

1191
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 1: really truly think that Nebraska is okay. But they're just

1192
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 1: too much of a one trick pony for me. On

1193
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 1: offense right now. It's just Adrian Martinez, their bust scrambling. Yeah.

1194
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: I don't like that strategy, especially when you're going up

1195
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 1: against a team like Michigan State, which look, Michigan State's

1196
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 1: not going to go twelve to zero. They're probably not

1197
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 1: going to go ten to two. They might not even

1198
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 1: go eight and four. But one thing you can definitively

1199
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 1: say about the Spartans right now is that they're playing

1200
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:21,479
Speaker 1: really good team football, really good team football. They're getting

1201
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 1: contributions from a bunch of different guys. It's not just

1202
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 1: you know, running back or quarterback. I mean, they're really

1203
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 1: playing well together. And I like that matchup much more

1204
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 1: than anything else here. So you're giving me a team

1205
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 1: in Nebraska on the road, still sort of reeling a

1206
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 1: little bit. Maybe they've got a hangover second straight road game. Yeah,

1207
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 1: after the Oklahoma game. They are very one dimensional on offense.

1208
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 1: They're only going to go as far as Adrian Martinez

1209
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 1: can take them. And then there's Michigan State, who I

1210
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 1: think is just fired up and they're they're playing so

1211
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 1: well as a team right now, I'll lay the five.

1212
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 1: I don't know what the final is here. I do

1213
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 1: think it's close for most of this game, but I'm

1214
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 1: going to say Michigan State thirty one to twenty one

1215
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 1: to win and cover.

1216
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 2: Okay, I believe Michigan State to be the better, more complete.

1217
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 1: Team in this matchup.

1218
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 2: I'm taking the points why I am downgrading the Northwestern win,

1219
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 2: which is to no fault of Michigan State, but just

1220
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 2: in terms of our view of Michigan State. To go

1221
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 2: to Northwestern, who won the West last year, and to

1222
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 2: score what nearly forty and a comfortable win, we thought

1223
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 2: man Michigan State has turned a corner. We don't know

1224
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 2: what Miami is at this point right. No, they haven't

1225
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 2: looked good at all this year and the fact of

1226
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 2: the matter is it was a close game in the

1227
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 2: first half. It was actually a close game coming out

1228
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 2: of the third quarter. And Michigan State, as good teams do,

1229
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 2: as good teams should do, they score on to pretty

1230
01:05:57,800 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 2: short like a thirteen yard field and a twenty yard

1231
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 2: field or something like that to make the final score

1232
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 2: what it was. Again, that's what good teams do. But

1233
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily know if that was indicative of the

1234
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 2: general tenor of that game. So I think Michigan State

1235
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 2: is good, but perhaps being looked at a little too

1236
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 2: favorably given the context that we now know about their season.

1237
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 2: Once again, I believe Michigan State is the better team,

1238
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 2: but I'm a believer in Nebraska's defense. As Bill Connolly

1239
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 2: put it, one bad quarter against Illinois. You should not

1240
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 2: define who they can be all year long, and Michigan

1241
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 2: State hasn't been great against the past. This year, they've

1242
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 2: been good big picture wise, getting off the field, red zone,

1243
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 2: you know, forcing turnovers. I just think there's going there

1244
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 2: are going to be times when Michigan State comes back

1245
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 2: to earth inexplicably with some new faces whatever. So I

1246
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,440
Speaker 2: think it's one of those elements. Maybe it's a letdown

1247
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 2: spot going to Miami and winning, big emotional situation. I

1248
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 2: think Nebraska is too good to just go like two

1249
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 2: and ten. So I think there's if if Michigan State

1250
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 2: was truly a team that Vegas believed in, they'd be

1251
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 2: seven and a half eight and a half point favorites

1252
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 2: here right at home against the team that in Nebraska

1253
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 2: that doesn't win much. So I just think we are

1254
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 2: jumping the gun a little bit, and scratch and sniff

1255
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 2: is actually applicable to this game as well, So I'm

1256
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 2: gonna take the points here. I actually think Nebraska wins

1257
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 2: this game by a field goal.

1258
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 1: Really, yeah, you like.

1259
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 2: I think this is this is where there's I mean

1260
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 2: we say this the first few weeks of the season,

1261
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 2: but yeah, I like them out right. I think the

1262
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 2: line is odd to me, so I'm steering into it.

1263
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 1: That's crazy. I'm seeing ninety nine percent of the money

1264
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 1: on Michigan State. So maybe you are right, maybe you're

1265
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 1: onto something.

1266
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I just there is that element that we

1267
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 2: are that Michigan State's records stands atop a little bit

1268
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 2: of quicksand.

1269
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 1: At the moment, Okay, two quick sec games here before

1270
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 1: we call it a day. We've got tennis See at Florida.

1271
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 1: This is seven pm game. Tennessee is a twenty point dog.

1272
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 1: I think it could be hangover city for Florida. Yep. Agree.

1273
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 1: I think it could be hangover city for Florida. After

1274
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 1: nearly beating Alabama again, they lost thirty one to twenty nine.

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01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 1: Its a hell of an effort. Plus, I think the

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Speaker 1: volunteers are actually somewhat undervalued at this point. I think

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Speaker 1: they're being overlooked. Florida's going to win this game, but

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Speaker 1: twenty points is a lot, so I'm on Tennessee plus

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Speaker 1: the number fully agree.

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Speaker 2: I think Tennessee's defense is interesting. They will take hits

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Speaker 2: this week, but I think they can lose this game

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Speaker 2: by fifteen to eighteen points something like that. Hendon Hooker

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Speaker 2: I think is going to be the guy and throws

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Speaker 2: just I think he throws a better ball than Joe Milton.

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Speaker 2: And even though Tennessee has issues, I think they're competent

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Speaker 2: enough to listen to by two and a half touchdowns

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Speaker 2: forty one twenty seven something in.

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Speaker 1: A hangover spot yep. Yeah. And finally, ESPN two seven pm.

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Speaker 1: Kentucky a five point road favorite at South Carolina. You know,

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Speaker 1: I kind of went back and forth in this one.

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Speaker 1: I don't really have a great read on either team. Kentucky,

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Speaker 1: what they've done on offense has been really exciting under

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01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 1: Liam Cohen untill last week. Till last week. Last week

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Speaker 1: wasn't a great showing. But I think by and large

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Speaker 1: the combo of Liam Cohen and Will Levis and Wandale Robinson,

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Speaker 1: like there's a lot to be very excited about there.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why the line isn't higher, And I

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Speaker 1: think that's why I'm a little spooked here, because the

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Speaker 1: South Carolina offense is bad. It's bad. They're entrant. They

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Speaker 1: changed quarterbacks, right, Maybe I'll get better now, you know

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Speaker 1: with Luke Dodie. Who knows. But I you know, like,

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01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 1: are people betting on Shane Beemer's vibe because he's got

1303
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 1: a cool vibe. We retweeted a fun video of him

1304
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 1: talking about the Georgia front and they were up against

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Speaker 1: last week. I'm just gonna not overthink this and go

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Speaker 1: Kentucky minus whatever.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Kentucky as well. You have to have

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Speaker 2: something that you like about South Carolina as a home

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01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 2: dog in order to take them and look, maybe people

1310
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 2: see something they like that I don't see, and I'll

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01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 2: just be wrong. But I'm seeing a little more from

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Speaker 2: Kentucky at the moment. And you know, maybe Luke Dody

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Speaker 2: gets his his sea legs back under him. Whatever, I

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01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 2: just don't see it.

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01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 1: Sorry, some real quick mentions here. I don't know. You

1316
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 1: could pick it if you want to. I just want

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01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 1: to get these on the record. Miss two minus two

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01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 1: at Boston College at noon, We've got yeah, Wolf is right.

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01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 1: We've got at noon Boise minus nine at Utah State,

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01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:41,640
Speaker 1: which is notable. I'm taking Utah State there. Yeah, I

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01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 1: think I would have too.

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01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 2: I like their quarterback, I like their coach. It's elevation stations.

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01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 2: Now Boise State's at elevation, but it's now even higher

1324
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:54,760
Speaker 2: elevation coming off of a loss. Yeah, Wing you test

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01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 2: date here.

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01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 1: Three thirty, We've got Uliville whoa minus two and a

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Speaker 1: half at flour State. Will Florida State start zero to four?

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01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 2: That could be value value? Big line seems low. Take

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01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 2: the Knoles head to Voodoo Dog, enjoy your weekend.

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01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 1: Seven point thirty North Carolina minus eleven and a half

1331
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 1: at Georgia Tech feels low.

1332
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:21,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, Georgia Tech Starr and Jordan Yates over Jeff Simms.

1333
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 2: I'd somewhat promising against Clemson in a no toutchdown effort.

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01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:28,640
Speaker 2: I'm going North Carolina here. Yeah, I'm going North Carolina.

1335
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 1: To cover this one. I just I like them and

1336
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:33,759
Speaker 1: nine to thirty Cal at Washington. It'd be an interesting

1337
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 1: spot for Washington. They need to get on the board

1338
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 1: in a big way. Seven points though might be a lot.

1339
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 2: Justin Willhawks has been great against Washington. Washington's offense came

1340
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 2: alive last week against Arkansas. I was there, but Col's

1341
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 2: defense hasn't been where it was. And I think it's

1342
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 2: a nice situational matchup for Washington with their defense against

1343
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 2: what has been the strength of Col's team this year,

1344
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 2: which has been their offense. I think they'll handle them

1345
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 2: just fine. I don't have the schedule in front of

1346
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 2: me as an a look ahead spot for Washington. I

1347
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 2: think they're gonna take Cal seriously because they've struggled against Cal.

1348
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:09,680
Speaker 2: Washington has Oregon State the following week. So no, I'm

1349
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 2: gonna take Washington here to cover this spread by a

1350
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 2: couple of touchdowns.

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01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 1: Do you have a lock this week? By the way.

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01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 2: Now I do Iowa State because I'm just gonna steer

1353
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 2: into the emotion.

1354
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 1: Up a lock of the week a lot.

1355
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 2: Maybe should also mention interesting Wednesday night matchup Marshall app

1356
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 2: State in Boone. I believe Wake Virginia Friday Night. That's

1357
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 2: just gonna be weird. It's gonna end controversially, and it's

1358
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 2: gonna be very strange. Liberty QS.

1359
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 1: Liberty has the opportunity with Malik Willison one of the

1360
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 1: better offenses in the country to be.

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01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 2: A Power five opponent. UTSA is gonna beat Memphis in

1362
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 2: a letdown spot. I really like UTSA on their defense.

1363
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:51,800
Speaker 2: And then Oregon State USC. I like Oregon State against USC.

1364
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:54,599
Speaker 2: Orgon State is outright Wagon State.

1365
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:56,599
Speaker 1: Well, maybe not out right. I'll take the points happily though.

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01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 1: Where's that game?

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01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 2: That game is at SC with I don't know what

1368
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 2: the quarterback situation is for USC, but interim coach, I

1369
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 2: think Oregon State has his act together. They've got a

1370
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 2: decent quarterback in Chance Nolan and Jonathan Smith. Will's teams

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01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 2: two points. He has a smart enough offensive mind. The

1372
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 2: talent is at a higher level year over year every

1373
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 2: year that he has been there, so I don't what's

1374
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 2: the spread in the Oregon State USC game.

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01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 1: I'd have to look it up. I don't have it

1376
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 1: in front of me.

1377
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, twelve and a half points. Yeah, organ State will

1378
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 2: keep it double digits. The USC still has issues to

1379
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 2: get over, as they fell down fourteen to nothing in

1380
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 2: that game. And finally, just quick favor, can you drop

1381
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 2: that big stanky, coaxing, consuming coiling drum and five competent

1382
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 2: league is trying to lick its wounds. Dan getting exercise,

1383
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 2: burning calories. Georgetown at Columbia, Columbia.

1384
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 1: Georgetown away from multi sport field. I have not seen

1385
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:06,559
Speaker 1: the numbers on Bill Connolly's sp plus will have to

1386
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 1: request that the next time we speak with him. I

1387
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 1: do know that he looks at FCS teams, so maybe

1388
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 1: he give us some insight here on what you know,

1389
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 1: because Phil Steele does the thing. Home field advantage plays

1390
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 1: like Beaver Stadium might be as much as five points,

1391
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:21,519
Speaker 1: four and a half points. Multi sport field I would

1392
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 1: think would have to be like eight, right, Yeah, I

1393
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 1: would imagine at least you know, I mean, I'll go Columbia,

1394
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:33,719
Speaker 1: give me Columbia, Yeah, Colgate, Lehigh, Colgate hosting engineers against

1395
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 1: the Gators. TI I am required by law now to

1396
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 1: go Lee High all these games. So give me Mountaineers. Mountaineers,

1397
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 1: just you don't waltz into Hamilton. I called them the

1398
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 1: Mountaineers a natural engineer gram between the mountain Hawks and Engineers.

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01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 2: Continue, cross Saders, the clear class of the pat League

1400
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 2: traveling to Monmouth.

1401
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 1: Gotta go across see the racetrack. We gotta go across

1402
01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 1: Saviors here, cross Saders.

1403
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:01,639
Speaker 2: Stony Brook, coming on off of the Oregon loss, hosting

1404
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:04,719
Speaker 2: Fordham on Long Island, LONGU Island.

1405
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 1: I jotted down here on the sheet that they're playing

1406
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 1: this game on Hulu Plus, hoping that I would get

1407
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 1: you on it. I guess I didn't. He's a great

1408
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 1: pizza matchup. Yeah, I'll go Fordham. We gotta go ford Him.

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01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 1: I do see that Hulu Plus. It did not FaZe me.

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01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 2: It's a great Yeah, great pizza matchup. I'm gonna go

1411
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:24,559
Speaker 2: Stonybrook here.

1412
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 1: I like what I side of their quarterback. Last week.

1413
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 2: He made some plays against the Oregon defense, Penn and

1414
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:30,640
Speaker 2: the Eddies of Lafayette.

1415
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 1: I always go against Lafayette, you know that.

1416
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know Lafayette's not having a good year. I

1417
01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 2: think I'm gonna go Quakers. I think I might start

1418
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:42,960
Speaker 2: picking based on the town that I think has better pizza.

1419
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 2: And Philly is a really good have you do you

1420
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 2: know people who went to Penn. I do spend time

1421
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 2: around the Penn campus I have.

1422
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:53,559
Speaker 1: Yeah. Is it a nice area? Yeah? It's fine? Is it?

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01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 1: What part of Philly is it? I don't know what

1424
01:15:57,000 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 1: part it's considered, but it's it's it's no, it's a

1425
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:04,759
Speaker 1: good area. Would you have gotten in if you applied

1426
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:07,640
Speaker 1: to Pen? No? Come on, no way? What was your

1427
01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 1: high school GPA? I don't remember it was. I mean

1428
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 1: I was fine, I was, I was I was fine

1429
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 1: in school. I did well in school. But you got

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01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 1: wait listed by Notre Dame. Right, I wouldn't have gotten

1431
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 1: into Pen, no way. But if you if you had

1432
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:27,520
Speaker 1: Notre Dame ambitions, that's not crazy distant from Pen academically,

1433
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 1: I guess not. But no, I wouldn't have gotten into Pen.

1434
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:36,680
Speaker 1: You had high school friends who got into Pen. I

1435
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:38,839
Speaker 1: knew a couple of people who got into Pen. Yeah.

1436
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 2: Were they way smarter than you? Come on, ty, you're

1437
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 2: selling yourself short.

1438
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 1: M definitely had a higher R way more dedicated Yeah,

1439
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 1: higher ranking, a much more efficient student.

1440
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that got into Pen. Okay, I knew there were

1441
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 2: kids from my high school and Sosun in California who

1442
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 2: went to Pen.

1443
01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 1: No, I mean, Pen's a great school. There's no chance

1444
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:01,600
Speaker 1: would have gone into Pen. Damn, sorry to hear it,

1445
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 1: ty sore spot. I guess. So. Look, if you are

1446
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:08,360
Speaker 1: out and about, if you are truly selecting your own

1447
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 1: window this Saturday, but you still want to be up

1448
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 1: to speed with what's going on with the games, check

1449
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Speaker 1: out our friends over on the College Football Blitz the

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Speaker 1: called by the hometown radio crew. So good. So you

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Speaker 1: get that local flavor. Just three commercial breaks every hour,

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Speaker 1: which means fifty six minutes of live play by play.

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Speaker 1: Damn College Blitz, good time, love it and so I

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Speaker 1: got Dan, I'm parched. Okay, do you have any plans

1462
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 1: this weekend beyond watching football and recording football shows? Are

1463
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 1: you supposed to rain over here at Man? Really? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: It's too bad.

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Speaker 2: Well, on that note, I don't really have anything that interesting.

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Speaker 2: Solid Saturday dot Com eleven Eastern Saturday Morning, Ty and

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Speaker 2: and news and you know, I just saw Tim Lester,

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Speaker 2: the Western Michigan head coach, is out with COVID vaccinated

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Speaker 1: my good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Tie Hilton Brandt.

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Speaker 1: We will talk to you all on a few short

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Speaker 1: days and meantime, stay solid peace. Notre dame double lock,

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Speaker 1: what what stop stop it