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Speaker 1: Welcome in Wednesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate

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Speaker 1: all of you hanging out with all of us. We

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Speaker 1: have got a loaded program for you. We'll head into

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Speaker 1: the Trump Cabinet at one thirty with Scott Turner, who

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Speaker 1: is a House in Urban Development Cabinet member, and then

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Speaker 1: at two thirty we're going to talk about the really

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Speaker 1: it's kind of interesting ongoing trial I'm not even sure

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Speaker 1: what his official name is now, Diddy of Sean Puffy

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Speaker 1: Combs that is currently taking place in New York City.

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Speaker 2: It is not on television.

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Speaker 1: If it were, I think it would be must see

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Speaker 1: television because some of the revelations coming out are damaging personally,

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Speaker 1: certainly to Sean Diddy Combs. But is he going to

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Speaker 1: be sentenced to the rest of his life in prison?

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Speaker 1: We'll get into that with Paul Murrow who has been

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Speaker 1: watching that trial.

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Speaker 2: But Buck, here's the reality. The media is.

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Speaker 1: Ashamed, and they are so ashamed that they are actually

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Speaker 1: and embarrassed that they are actually turning into something you

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Speaker 1: never would have thought you would see. That is Democrat attackers.

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Speaker 1: They're actually asking questions of the Democrats out there. And

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Speaker 1: I think this drumbeat is going to continue for some

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Speaker 1: time as the Biden revelations continue to come out. Yesterday

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Speaker 1: we told you that there was a discussion about having

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Speaker 1: to put Biden in a wheelchair and that Biden didn't

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Speaker 1: recognize George Clooney. Chuck Schumer got asked about this. Now,

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Speaker 1: remember there was a big New York Times piece that

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Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer was one of the people who finally forced

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden to step down. He went to his house

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Speaker 1: at Rehoboth Beach, had a face to face meeting with him.

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Speaker 1: There's some discussion that there's might have been an ultimatum

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Speaker 1: given then, where Schumer said, Hey, if you don't step down,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to go public and say that I think

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Speaker 1: you should step down. You don't have any support inside

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Speaker 1: of the Senate Democratic Caucus by and large, well, he

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Speaker 1: was asked, Chuck Schumer was, hey, do you feel some

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Speaker 1: responsibility for lying about Joe Biden's mental and physical condition?

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Speaker 1: And this is what it sounded like. This has gone megaviral.

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Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer not having a good few weeks in the

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Speaker 1: public eye. Listen to cut two.

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Speaker 3: President in that same month, George, we're just looking forward.

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Speaker 1: We're just looking forward as the talking point. Here's another one.

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Speaker 1: This is CNN. Suddenly the journalists have been embarrassed. They

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Speaker 1: were in on the cover up, but they are pretending

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Speaker 1: that they were not, and they are holding Democrats feet

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Speaker 1: to the fire. Here is Cassie Hunt grilling Chuck Schumer

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Speaker 1: on Biden's mental state. I think this is from a.

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Speaker 4: While back, next to Biden in the Oval office, February

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Speaker 4: twenty seventh, at twenty twenty four, just a handful of

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Speaker 4: months before the president took that debate stage. I'm interested

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Speaker 4: to know whether the man that you saw us sitting

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Speaker 4: there on that couch on that day you were in there,

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Speaker 4: you saw him up close and personal, did you really

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Speaker 4: not have any idea that he was not fit to

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Speaker 4: serve a second term?

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Speaker 2: Casey, we're looking forward.

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Speaker 5: We have the largest medicaid caught in front of us,

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Speaker 5: we have the coll federal government.

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Speaker 4: All of this because you lost a presidential election. And

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Speaker 4: is that not Joe Biden's responsibility for deciding to run again.

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Speaker 2: We're looking forward.

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Speaker 1: That's it, that's it, and then Buck that this is

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Speaker 1: I don't think this is going to play very well.

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Speaker 1: Hakeem Jefferies, who is the minority leader in the House,

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Speaker 1: who would be the House Speaker if Democrats were able

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Speaker 1: to take back control of the Chamber in the mid term.

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Speaker 1: Also asked the same questions here he is cut for.

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Speaker 6: There's a number of different revelations coming out about President

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Speaker 6: Joe Biden's decline, recent books. Is it helpful for your

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Speaker 6: caucus for these to come out now? And would you

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Speaker 6: want Biden to campaign for House Democrats?

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Speaker 2: And not looking backward? We're looking forward at this particular

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Speaker 1: Time, all right, We're looking forward, buck Is, We're looking forward,

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Speaker 1: going to Suffice. And here's why I do think it's significant.

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Speaker 1: We're in the middle of the big beautiful bill being

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Speaker 1: worked through right now, Congress. Almost no one is talking

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Speaker 5: And Trump's big trip to the Middle East still underway,

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Speaker 5: huge deals being negotiated, financial deals for this country's economy,

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Speaker 5: peace deals. He met with the new head of Syria

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Speaker 5: formerly in al Qaeda, and had a ten million dollar

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Speaker 2: Crazy a world we live.

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Speaker 5: Why to come back? Quite a comeback? Not quite a

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Speaker 5: So we shall see what comes out of all of that.

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Speaker 5: But yes, Clay, in the meantime, here's what I see

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Speaker 5: happening the Democrats. I don't think there's a strategy with this, really.

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Speaker 5: I think that they know that they have to go

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Speaker 5: through some internal purge and there's going to be a

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Speaker 5: lot of finger pointing. Generally, this can go one of

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Speaker 5: two ways, because nobody wants to be accountable and nobody

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Speaker 5: wants to be held responsible for this enormous lie.

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Speaker 2: And I want us to be very clear.

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Speaker 5: We know Clay knows, I know you know it was

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Speaker 5: an OP as in, an information operation, as in they

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Speaker 5: all knew that Biden couldn't do this. They just figured

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Speaker 5: maybe we can keep the charade going long enough to

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Speaker 5: just squeak out one more win. And no one thought

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Speaker 5: Biden was Nobody thought Biden was going to do all

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Speaker 5: four years. That I can assure you, like, there's not

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Speaker 5: a single person I don't even think Biden believed that.

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Speaker 1: But I hate to say this, Buck, and I said

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Speaker 1: it before on the air. I'm not sure Biden's going

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Speaker 1: to be alive by the time We hate to say it,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not sure he's going to be alive by

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Captain Bummer.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I just, I mean his deterioration not only

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Speaker 5: Next I don't want to hand a talking point to

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Speaker 5: the other side, but it is true in any of

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Speaker 5: you who have dealt with older relatives, or perhaps you've

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Speaker 5: seen this, if you've been fortunate enough to you know,

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Speaker 5: live into your golden years yourself. Aging is not linear.

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Speaker 5: Once you get past you know, six sixty seventy meeting,

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Speaker 5: you can have a few years where everything seems like

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Speaker 5: it's pretty much I think stable, and then you can

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Speaker 5: decline pretty rapidly because of health issues.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 5: So that's one of the arguments that they're trotting out already.

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Speaker 5: I would note that they're saying, oh, but it happened

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Speaker 5: the election year. That's a lie. That's not true. We

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Speaker 5: all knew for all four years. But Clay, generally, the

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Speaker 5: move here is you either scapegoat or you do the

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Speaker 5: We are all to blame, right, the collective, which means

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Speaker 5: when when there's collective blame, nobody is to blame. I

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Speaker 5: know this from the CIA, like when it's the institution

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Speaker 5: you know, remember that guy who came forward after nine

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Speaker 5: Clark who had been the National Security Advisor, And all

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Speaker 5: the Democrats were like, look at him taking blame for this,

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Speaker 5: Like the guy was on.

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Speaker 2: A book tour when he's like, we failed you.

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Speaker 5: It's like no one actually thought that he failed them,

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Speaker 5: but it was a big pound his chess moment. Right,

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Speaker 5: we failed you means nothing. So there may be that

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Speaker 5: move for the Democrats that I think is the likeliest,

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Speaker 5: and you'll see that even from some of the journals

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Speaker 5: who are going around now making these arguments because.

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Speaker 2: What they wanted to do was the scapegoat.

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Speaker 5: The problem is Biden as the scapegoat doesn't make sense because,

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Speaker 5: as you and I have discussed, they should have known

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Speaker 5: What they want people to believe is that Biden had

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Speaker 5: The reality is they were in on the heist. Their

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Speaker 5: the scapegoat maneuver, which would have been easy, which is

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Speaker 5: Biden's the problem, isn't really working because if Biden was

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Speaker 5: the problem, we all knew he had these problems.

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Speaker 2: Why did you go along with it until the debate.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: By the way, let's grab this audio if you would.

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Speaker 1: Boys and girls, I went on with Sean Hannity last night.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure your boy Tapper is going to come

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Speaker 1: want to run and hide. But we played Shawn did

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Speaker 1: said quite succinctly that Biden didn't have the mental or

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Speaker 1: We played that clip yesterday on the program, and I

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Speaker 1: only that the media was complicit, it's in the media's

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Speaker 1: profiting on both sides, right. I mean, you say, hey,

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Speaker 1: As soon as Biden's not the guy, you show up

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Speaker 5: This is what I said, and like the OJ, this

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Speaker 5: is like the OJ book. If I did it, here's

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Speaker 5: I think, was totally done with any belief in OJ's

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Speaker 5: But I think it was just the grotesque nature of oh,

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Speaker 5: dominating probably off of your your grotesque inadequacy in covering him.

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Speaker 1: Now you say, hey, there to blame, and now you

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Speaker 5: Well, I think you've stumbled onto something that is critical,

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Speaker 5: and I want everybody because Tapper is a very shifty fellow.

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Speaker 5: I have known through his work and we have had

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Speaker 5: maybe I could have done more or something. They're going

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Speaker 5: to be the Oh, I'm leading back into a new

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Speaker 5: era of objective and neutral journalism. Right, this is the

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Speaker 5: then you come back. No, no, no, no accountability on this.

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Speaker 5: Accountability would mean you don't actually ever believe these people again,

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Speaker 5: because when it really mattered, they lied to you, and

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Speaker 5: they knew they were lying to you. Right, if somebody Clay,

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Speaker 5: if somebody you know, cheats in the stock industry, right,

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Speaker 5: an industry banned. You look at this issue and the

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Speaker 5: the Biden cover up essentially of his dementia, they're all

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Speaker 5: planning to stay in this business forever and as you

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Speaker 5: point out, even to get rich on it. That's that's

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Speaker 5: not accountability at all. And I also know this you're

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Speaker 5: hearing about the White House. Oh, the White House covered

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you treted this.

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Speaker 1: And it's a really good argument. Who yep, who I

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Speaker 1: don't want White House aids. This is again, the thing

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Speaker 5: Trump is not tired of winning. He is on a

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Speaker 5: But we should look at some of the other wins

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Speaker 1: You get the final American terrorist who's been held for

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Speaker 1: something like five hundred and eighty days Edon Alexander hostage, sorry,

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Speaker 1: held by terrorist Eton Alexander, the final American innocent back,

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Speaker 1: and you also potentially get the trade deal done with China.

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Speaker 1: Any one of those that I just ran through would

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Speaker 1: be typically huge, monumental one week or more stories. Trump

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Speaker 1: has done them all, not to mention getting trillions of

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Speaker 1: dollars potentially in aid and commitment from Middle Eastern countries

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Speaker 1: like the UAE, like Qatar, like Saudi Arabia to invest

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Speaker 1: in American business.

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Speaker 2: That seems like a pretty good few days.

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Speaker 5: And I do think as well, you can already lay

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Speaker 5: out more initiatives, conversations, ideas that have some of that

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Speaker 5: has already. I mean, I view that the border is

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Speaker 5: actually a international relations issue, right. We think of it

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Speaker 5: very much as it's so much tied in. It's the economy,

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Speaker 5: it's domestic and national security, it's all these different things.

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Speaker 2: But especially when.

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Speaker 5: You have a border Clay that had almost two hundred

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Speaker 5: nations people arriving at illegally. I think the final number

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Speaker 5: from border patrol I saw was like one eighty something, right,

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Speaker 5: I mean, there's not that many countries in the world,

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Speaker 5: so you got illegals from all over the world, and

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Speaker 5: now they're trying to figure out how to get them back,

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Speaker 5: and that requires foreign relations, and that requires using pressure,

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Speaker 5: carrots and sticks, and that has already been a massive success.

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Speaker 5: That alone is more than I can attest to for

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Speaker 5: four years of the Biden administration sending the absolutely hapless

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Speaker 5: and professionally worthless. Maybe he's a nice man, professionally worthless

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Speaker 5: Anthony Blincoln as Secretary of State to do what I mean,

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Speaker 5: if we sit here and we talk so much about

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Speaker 5: Biden's dementia, it's worth remembering everyone, this team was president

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Speaker 5: for four years. What is the one win that you

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Speaker 5: can point to on foreign policy? And I know, Sean

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Speaker 5: some of are already shouting, look at the disastrous withdrawal

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Speaker 5: from Afghanistan? How they did that? No, we all know that.

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Speaker 5: I'm saying, you find me the one win that they

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Speaker 5: have on the world stage that you can point what

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Speaker 5: getting us embroiled in the endless supplying of a war

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Speaker 5: between Russia and Ukraine that Russia is slowly winning and

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Speaker 5: choking off Ukraine and killing a generation of U Granian fighters.

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Speaker 5: Like what exactly was Biden able to accomplish? And I

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Speaker 5: mean his team really, because we all know about Biden himself.

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Speaker 5: And then you see what Trump has claimed work one

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Speaker 5: hundred and I don't know, one hundred and twenty or

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Speaker 5: something days into the administration or less than that, and

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Speaker 5: already you're talking about a true strategic shift in our

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Speaker 5: relationship with China, which is I mean, the EU is

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Speaker 5: the largest economy in the world, right, but if we

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Speaker 5: break it down, it's US and then it's China by

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Speaker 5: nation state.

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Speaker 2: That's a big deal.

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Speaker 5: And we're not even talking about this stuff from the

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Speaker 5: Mid East and the trillion dollars of investment that he's

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Speaker 5: going to be bringing in from there. I also think,

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Speaker 5: and it has not been recognized, and probably that's because

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Speaker 5: a lot of people are morons. He's also now strategically

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Speaker 5: really isolated Ran and given himself substantial leeway when it

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Speaker 5: comes to negotiating this new deal. And let me explain

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Speaker 5: in basically one minute what I mean by this. Syria

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Speaker 5: is now going to be viewing Trump as a hero.

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Speaker 5: They certainly view Saudi Arabia as heroic for helping to

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Speaker 5: get them off of the sanctions list. As I said,

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Speaker 5: he pulled off the sanctions, which means Syria now has

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Speaker 5: a chance. Let's see what this country can do. Let's

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Speaker 5: see what the new leadership of Syria can do. There's

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Speaker 5: been a big opening here for them. You know, you

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Speaker 5: wanna do good things, Trump's gonna bring good things to you.

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Speaker 2: You wanna play stupid games, You're gonna win stupid prizes.

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Speaker 1: Great relationship, even better maybe than it's ever been with

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Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar, Syria. We know that historically

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Speaker 1: Israel is an ally of the United States. I would

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Speaker 1: submit to you that Trump has now given himself the leeway,

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Speaker 1: if necessary, to have strikes against Iran and not have

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Speaker 1: other parts of the Middle East react and say, oh

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Speaker 1: my goodness, what in the world is Trump doing. Iran

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Speaker 1: is really really isolated now because Siria is not going

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Speaker 1: to care. Certainly, Saudi Arabia doesn't want a nuclear powered Iran,

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Speaker 1: the UAE doesn't want that, Kutar doesn't want that. Israel,

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Speaker 1: Israel doesn't want that. They may be coming from different perspectives,

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Speaker 1: but they're all aligned now with the United States in

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Speaker 1: the Middle East. We have managed to kind of in

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Speaker 1: the Ghostbusters analogy, Buck bring cats and dogs together to

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Speaker 1: marshal them against Iran. And you've been over there. When's

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Speaker 1: the last time you even heard a story about Iraq? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, what I don't even I mean, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: be honest. You used to read twenty stories a day

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Speaker 1: about what was going on in Iraq when we were

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Speaker 1: spending wasting, unfortunately trillions of dollars on Iraq. I can't

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Speaker 1: even tell you what is going on in Iraq? Do

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Speaker 1: you have any I don't really have any clue. Remember

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Speaker 1: when we killed Solimani, it was, oh my god, World

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Speaker 1: War three is gonna happen. I don't remember the last

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Speaker 1: time Iraq had any sort of major say on the

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you haven't seen in Iran story in quite

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Speaker 5: some time, and I think it's kind of limping along

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Speaker 5: as a country, but it has it has certainly. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's dropped out of the headlines. I can't even think

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Speaker 5: of the last story that we talked about this on

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Speaker 5: the show about a rock, but on the Iran isolation

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Speaker 5: from the world. I mean the problem and I think

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Speaker 5: you can see this very clearly. The Obama administration essentially

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Speaker 5: gave up all other possible wins in the Middle East

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Speaker 5: and had created a disaster. I mean, I would play

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Speaker 5: I could do a three hour show right now at

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Speaker 5: the top of my head on what a disaster Obama's

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Speaker 5: foreign policy, which Biden was in charge of, by the way,

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Speaker 5: allegedly what a disaster Obama's foreign policy was. And even Democrats,

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Speaker 5: some of them were like, this is just I can't

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Speaker 5: This is so indefensible and on so many.

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Speaker 2: Levels it was atrocious.

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Speaker 5: But it was all to get Iran further and meshed

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Speaker 5: in the international system, give them essentially inducements for better behavior.

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Speaker 5: It did not work. Iran did not behave better. People say, oh, well,

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Speaker 5: Trump got us out of it. Yeah, because he saw

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Speaker 5: where this was going. He saw what the inducements got us,

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Speaker 5: which is this, this is a corrupt and evil regime.

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Speaker 5: There's no there's no turning it around with them.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 5: This is who the Mullahs are, so to speak, It's

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Speaker 5: who the IRGC is. And and there, I think is

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Speaker 5: just the understanding that Trump has on foreign policy of who.

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Speaker 2: Are friends, who are enemies? How do we treat them?

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Speaker 2: Do they know?

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Speaker 5: The difference and the answer with Trump to those questions

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Speaker 5: is quite clear.

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Speaker 2: I think I think that's one hundred percent right. You

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Speaker 2: know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: You know Trump knows who the good guys are, who

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Speaker 5: the bad guys are. That sounds so simple.

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Speaker 2: But Democrats don't I know so bad.

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Speaker 5: All right, welcome back into Clay and with some law

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Speaker 2: Great to have you back on the show, sir.

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Speaker 7: Great to be with you guys.

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Speaker 2: All right, so I know it's early stages.

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Speaker 5: You might have heard a little bit of what we

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Speaker 2: A lot of.

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Speaker 5: Really grotesque stuff, salacious stuff that is considered I think

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Speaker 5: a matter of fact and public record now on both sides.

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Speaker 5: But is it going to be able to be proven

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Speaker 5: beyond a reasonable doubt that it is criminal? What are

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Speaker 5: you seeing so far? How are you viewing the likelihood

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Speaker 5: of well, whichever outcome here in this trial?

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Speaker 7: So what I'm seeing is the prosecutor's strategy, right, and

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Speaker 7: it's way way too early, I would argue, to be

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Speaker 7: to the likelihood of his conviction. The prosecution very clearly

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Speaker 7: is doing is establishing right up front that, as you

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Speaker 7: guys put it, not a good guy, okay, and that

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Speaker 7: the acts involved here are horrific. That in and of itself, however,

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Speaker 7: it does not supply enough beyond a reasonable doubt for

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Speaker 7: a conviction. But by establishing that right up from the

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Speaker 7: get go, first of all, you shade you color the

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Speaker 7: perceptions of the jury going forward in regard to everything here.

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Speaker 7: That's kind of going on in the Karen Reid case

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Speaker 7: as well. By the way, but you gotta remember something

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Speaker 7: the charges here. He's the only guy charged, and you

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Speaker 7: organization and they were not charged, which means almost certainly

654
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 7: there's some flips coming. And that is to say, people

655
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 7: that are members of this organization who are gonna come

656
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 7: in and they're gonna button up in the prosecution's mind,

657
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 7: they gonna button up the piece that you guys are

658
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 7: saying is potentially missing. And I'm not disagreeing with you,

659
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 7: we just haven't gotten to it yet. You're gonna have testimony,

660
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 7: would argue where they are going to put forth the

661
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 7: idea that he had an organization, that it was coercive,

662
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 7: and then there's all this other stuff marveled throughout it,

663
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:14,760
Speaker 7: including guns, drugs, physical assaults, even some allegations of arson.

664
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 7: It's gonna get very very volatile, very lurid, and that's

665
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 7: what they're gonna put their meat on the bones of

666
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 7: the indictment as it's written.

667
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: Why do you think they started with Cassie his girlfriend?

668
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: She is the first witness bringing the case, because to me,

669
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: that is the most salacious, but it actually and I'm

670
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 1: curious how you would analyze this is one that he

671
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: might have the best defense for because she was with

672
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: him for a decade, and if you truly felt like

673
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: you were being mistreated. I think most people, right, I

674
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: think most people out there, if they were in a

675
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: decade long relationship and you kept in that relationship, a

676
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: lot of people would say, Hey, she had to have

677
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: consented to a lot of this. She wasn't necessarily coerced,

678
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: right to me, starting with this actually offers him the

679
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: best defense, whereas if they had started with, hey, let

680
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: me get into some of the particulars of what we

681
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: think were criminal behavior, maybe by people who were his

682
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: former colleagues, former co workers, people that he employed. It

683
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: actually looks more like a clinical crime than a broken relationship,

684
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: clearly between a guy and a girlfriend.

685
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I think that's a very smart observation,

686
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 7: because you're right, that is very much the dynamic in

687
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 7: this and we've seen that from the get go. Because

688
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 7: notice that Colmes' defense Okay, who is Mark Agnifflow, by

689
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 7: the way, a very very competent and experience attorney. His wife, Karygniffolo,

690
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 7: is actually the defense attorney for the Manchione case. She's

691
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 7: got minchioned. So they're well known here in New York

692
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 7: City criminal circles. They both work for the Manhattan DIA's office,

693
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 7: probably around when you were that buck with us in

694
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 7: New York.

695
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's it.

696
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, so you know they've been around. Any note, he's

697
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 7: very competent attorney. He's a lot of high profile cases,

698
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 7: so you know, he's got very good representation here. But

699
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 7: what he's done, Clay, is what the prosecution has done,

700
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 7: excuse me, which is a two female prosecutors are the

701
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 7: part of the team. One for him, by the way,

702
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 7: is the daughter of James Komy, not James Komy, his

703
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 7: daughter is one of the prosecutors. So this stuff is

704
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 7: all very New York at this point. But one of

705
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 7: the things they're going to do now is to confront

706
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 7: the dynamic Clay that you're talking about subsequent to Cassie.

707
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 7: And as I said, what they did upfront is just

708
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 7: put the black head on calms. They made him a

709
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 7: bad guy to the point that even his defense had

710
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 7: to say, hey, you know what is a bad guy.

711
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 7: He's a domestic abuser, but that doesn't make him a

712
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 7: Rico purp. That doesn't make him a sex trafficker. Right,

713
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 7: They're trying to draw that distinction. So now everything is

714
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 7: going to be colored by that. But the question you

715
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 7: pose is now what the prosecution has to overcome, which

716
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 7: is was it simply transactional? Was Cassie hanging around when

717
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 7: she had ample opportunity to get away? Was she hanging

718
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 7: around because she was getting something out of it? And

719
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 7: this whole thing was kind of consensual, which is going

720
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 7: to be the defense, And that occurs. That dynamic occurs

721
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 7: in all these cases. We saw it in Epstein, and

722
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 7: we saw it in Weinstein. You know, in the Harvey

723
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 7: Weinstein case, she had a similar thing, right like, I

724
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 7: was all transactionally. I knew what they were getting into.

725
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 7: And this comes down to a little bit of the

726
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 7: evolution of America's sort of perception of these things. You're

727
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 7: seeing it in the Menedez case where the argument is

728
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 7: and it's been a winning argument so far, to my shock,

729
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 7: that we have progressed over the decades in our understanding

730
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 7: of certain dynamics in these things, and as a result,

731
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 7: we understand them better and we have to treat them differently.

732
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 7: And so it's going to come down to exactly I

733
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 7: think what you have put on the table, which is

734
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 7: how much the other members of Combs's organization, Because I'm

735
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 7: telling you those that's who's coming here, because it's a RINCO, right,

736
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 7: there's going to be other members of the organization then

737
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 7: not charge. So where is everybody? They're coming on a

738
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 7: prosecution's case, and they're gonna have to say he had

739
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 7: control of her, she didn't have independent will, he threatened her,

740
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 7: he beat her up, she didn't feel like she could leave,

741
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,439
Speaker 7: and you gonna have all kinds of other allegations about

742
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 7: how he controlled this organization. And that's gonna be what

743
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 7: a rub hits the road.

744
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 2: We'll gonna Paul.

745
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 5: This goes to my next question for you, which my

746
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 5: understanding here, and this was from early on in the case,

747
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 5: and I checked to make sure they already know that

748
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 5: they found illegal drugs, a lot of quote large quantities

749
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 5: of cocaine and meth, and illegal firearms. That's actually something

750
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 5: I do know quite a bit about because if you've

751
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,240
Speaker 5: got illegal fire he was down here in Florida's actually

752
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 5: in Miami is where I live, and I think he

753
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 5: had the serial numbers filed off on some AR Fifteen's

754
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 5: a big, big no no. Now this comes up in

755
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 5: the Rico case. But if they've got him on those,

756
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 5: can they just get him separately on those illegal possession charges.

757
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 5: And I asked because also to me, it indicates they

758
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 5: must think they've got something really good on them, right,

759
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 5: because back in the day, if they can get them

760
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 5: on the illegal drugs and llegal guns, why not just

761
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 5: put them away for years on that? They must think

762
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,240
Speaker 5: that they can prove this conspiracy at a higher level.

763
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, another smart question. So understand something. He's got other charges.

764
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 7: Everybody is focusing on the Rico charge because that's the

765
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 7: thing that tracks to like the mafia, Gravano flipped Doungatti.

766
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 7: We've all heard those stories. But there are other charges here.

767
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 7: I'm going to point one of them out. One of

768
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 7: them is that there isn't a gun charge here in

769
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 7: the superseding indictment. There is a drug charge. However, all right,

770
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 7: he's got a drug distribution charge. So there is that,

771
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 7: and that's recent because that's when when the HSI did

772
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 7: the raid.

773
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 2: Right.

774
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 7: He's also got an obstruction charge and that almost certainly

775
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 7: goes to the twenty sixteen thing where he tells is

776
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 7: he flores the head the manager, don't do anything with

777
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 7: this tape. You got to cover up this tape somehow.

778
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 7: Rather they brought the statute on that forward. I'll be

779
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 7: curious to see how they do that. But relative to

780
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 7: these other charge is that are here, those remain on

781
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 7: the table as an option for him. And you know,

782
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 7: the one that's actually more serious than the RICO is

783
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 7: the sex trafficking case because and here's why. And this

784
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 7: is the thing I want to tease out. This is

785
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 7: eighteen title eighteen USC. Fifteen ninety one. Anybody can look

786
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 7: it up. It's not it sounds very loyally. Just look

787
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 7: those numbers up. This is sex trafficking of a minor

788
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 7: and that's trouble for him because that carries life and

789
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 7: the statute of limitations.

790
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: Sorry to cut you off on that. Who is the minor?

791
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 1: Do we know anything about that?

792
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 7: You know? No, I don't, And that's not going to

793
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 7: a very good chance. You're not going to hear that

794
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 7: name because obviously it's a minor, so we may hear

795
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 7: in some vague terms. And I don't know if the

796
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 7: person is going to testify. But eighteen fifteen ninety one,

797
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 7: which nobody's really talking about it. I looked for this interview.

798
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 7: I had a lot of the same questions you guys do,

799
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 7: so I started looking into the actual indictment. I pulled

800
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 7: down the PDF as opposed to talking about it off

801
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 7: of People magazine, and I see that's yeah, no kidding,

802
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 7: I didn't know that.

803
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, eight men for women on

804
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: the jury? Am I a awful And the answer may

805
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: be very much yes, awful, sexist, mischauvinist. If I'm diddy,

806
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 1: I want as many men on this trial as I

807
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: can get because I think guys are more likely in

808
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: New York City to look at this and be like, hey,

809
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: these women are getting on these planes. They're consenting to

810
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 1: travel all over the world to go to ditty parties.

811
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: They weren't just getting flown around for free. They understood that. Again,

812
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: this is what I'm arguing. If I'm the defense attorney,

813
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,919
Speaker 1: do you think that the fact that he got eight

814
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: men knowing that he only needs one to refuse to

815
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 1: convict right to say, hey, this is reasonable doubt? If

816
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: you were the defense attorney, would you want more men

817
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 1: on this jury than women? Do you think that draw

818
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: is better for him?

819
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 8: Yeah?

820
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 7: I mean, I look, you know that probably makes me

821
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 7: an awful, terrible, horrible sexist person as well, but also

822
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 7: means that we're both living in the real world, right, Yeah,

823
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 7: the answer would be yes, of course. Now that said,

824
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 7: as I said earlier, you know, the understanding of these

825
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 7: sorts of things have very much evolved, and I don't

826
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 7: think there's any denying that as a society we appreciate

827
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 7: the control that an abuser can have over the abused,

828
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 7: and our understanding of that dynamic has come a long

829
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 7: long way. So you know, it's a very blanket statement

830
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 7: and we have to be careful with how we frame that.

831
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 7: But yeah, of course, because women are just going to

832
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 7: be more understanding of that situation they may have experienced

833
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,879
Speaker 7: themselves and not. You know, it's not always men controlling women.

834
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 7: It can be the reverse, but let's speak factually, generally,

835
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 7: it is one, especially when it's physical. You know, it's

836
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 7: men over women. This goes almost to the argument of

837
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 7: men and women's sports. Men just have stronger bodies in

838
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 7: a general sense, and blah blah blah. You guys notice, So, yeah,

839
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 7: you're thinking in terms of men who are going to

840
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 7: look at this thing and say to themselves, eh, this

841
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 7: was transactional. Cassie so far, anyway, is the main witness here,

842
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 7: and she stayed with him for eleven years. How is

843
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 7: that possible? There must have been a point where she

844
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 7: could have gotten out of the limo, run into the

845
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 7: police station and spoken her piece, and she didn't do

846
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 7: that until years later when she decides to file a

847
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 7: civil suit, which carries a monetary imperative. Right, there's a

848
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 7: motive embedded in that that she's going to get paid,

849
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:31,439
Speaker 7: and you know, not coincidentally, her records, her music wasn't

850
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 7: exactly number one at that point, so there's going to

851
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 7: be this implication that she did it for money, and

852
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 7: ultimately she got what she wanted. He settled the day after,

853
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,439
Speaker 7: as you guys said, So yeah, and it just comes

854
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 7: down to whether the jury buys it. And you know,

855
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 7: there's also the reverse. Some of the men may feel like,

856
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 7: you know what, I got to make sure that I

857
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,240
Speaker 7: don't come across as the guy you're talking about, Clay,

858
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 7: and so maybe they're going to lean more into being

859
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 7: protective and others.

860
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: So we'll say, let me ask you this, Paul, because

861
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: you hit on it. He settled this case one day

862
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 1: after the civil suit was filed. Leave aside the criminal

863
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: The only reason he's getting charged criminally is because that

864
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: civil case went public. He settled it for reportedly eight figures.

865
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: Is this one of the all time miscalculations that you

866
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Speaker 1: can think of? The guy's a billionaire if he settles

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Speaker 1: this case he had the opportunity to before it ever

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Speaker 1: went public. None of this probably ensues, because the entire

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Speaker 1: case seems to have been a roadmap based on that

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Speaker 1: civil complaint. What a colossal miscalculation this was, especially because

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Speaker 1: you already went ahead and settled it for you know,

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Speaker 1: ten for ten million dollars or more the day after

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Speaker 1: it was filed.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, look, we don't know the backstory, and

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Speaker 7: there almost certainly is one. I would suspect that in

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Speaker 7: light of the blizzard of civil suits that resulted from

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Speaker 7: his settlement with her, and it's just been a steamroller,

878
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Speaker 7: you know, it's been an ongoing thing, he may have

879
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Speaker 7: decided that he was being blackmailed, and he may have

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Speaker 7: said to himself, you know what, Look, I just gave

881
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Speaker 7: her ten million. Now people that I said alow to

882
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Speaker 7: in the street are coming after me for ten million

883
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Speaker 7: alleging that I did this something similar, And I have

884
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Speaker 7: to stop here at some point and just say, you

885
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Speaker 7: know what, I can't do it. I have to call

886
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Speaker 7: bs because this could go on forever, and even a

887
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Speaker 7: billionaire like me, you know, I could be bankrupt. He

888
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Speaker 7: didn't put out any music for a long time. He

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Speaker 7: had put out a more recent album, and he was

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Speaker 7: kind of like the way I read it, and I'm

891
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Speaker 7: you know, look, I don't follow a hip hop real close.

892
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Speaker 7: I don't think that's any shock to anybody, but you know,

893
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Speaker 7: even I was aware of the fact that he was

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Speaker 7: kind of in the twilight of his career. He wasn't

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Speaker 7: one of the more relevant names. Yeah, he had been

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Speaker 7: at one point the real cultural icon. Those days were over,

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Speaker 7: and so he may have taken a look at his

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Speaker 7: money and had a you know, he was supporting two

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Speaker 7: three houses. He may have said, I can't do this indefinitely,

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Speaker 7: and so I'm gonna fight it tooth and nail. I'm

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Speaker 7: not sure he ever saw it going like this, though,

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Speaker 7: because I have a feeling that if he could have

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Speaker 7: it back, he would. He certainly did not expect that

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Speaker 5: Right, Paul Morrow, great to talk to you, as always,

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Speaker 5: Thanks for chatting with us here about it. We'll have

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Speaker 5: you back on as this thing progresses.

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Speaker 7: Thank you guys, and listen all of you out there.

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Speaker 7: Friday's at three the Karen Reid case on Fox Nation.

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Speaker 7: Tune in. We'll cover in a different case with a

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Speaker 7: lot of lurid details as well.

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Speaker 2: Hope to see you there.

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Speaker 5: I have now the HUD Secretary of Scott Turner, Miss

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Speaker 5: our Secretary Turner.

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Speaker 10: Good to have you on, sir, Hey, great to be

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Speaker 10: with you, guys, Clay and Buck. So thankful for you

956
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Speaker 10: guys having me on.

957
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Speaker 5: Oh we appreciate you, sir. So let's dive into this.

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Speaker 5: How does HUD play in the realm of the men

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Speaker 5: and women's sports issue? Something we talk about here a

960
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Speaker 5: lot on the show. I mean, I know that there's

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Speaker 5: a Biden equal access rule and that affects HUD funded

962
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Speaker 5: providers like shelter services and others. How has the policy

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Speaker 5: changed when it comes to HUD on men and women's

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Speaker 5: spaces in general.

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Speaker 10: Well, that's a great question. And you alluded to the

966
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Speaker 10: equal access rule. We took that rule down. That was

967
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Speaker 10: a Biden era rule. We took that rule down on

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Speaker 10: day one. And what it says now is that men

969
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Speaker 10: and women, so if you are a biological female, you

970
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Speaker 10: are allowed to go into female Hood funded shelters, but

971
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Speaker 10: if you are not a biological female, you are no

972
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Speaker 10: longer able or allowed to enter into HUD funded facilities,

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Speaker 10: including shelters that are for females. This is for our

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Speaker 10: females only. And you know, the President, I'm so grateful

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Speaker 10: for him restoring biological truth back to our country. If

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Speaker 10: you are a female at birth, if you are a

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Speaker 10: male at birth, there's only two sexes, male and female.

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Speaker 2: That's a biological truth. It's a biblical truth.

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Speaker 10: And so we're very proud here at HUOD to protect

980
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Speaker 10: the ladies of our country. And when you talk about

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Speaker 10: men and women's sports, you know, guys, I have four sis,

982
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Speaker 10: I have a wife, I have a mother, all of

983
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Speaker 10: my sisters and I have nine nieces. They were all

984
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Speaker 10: athletes and they spent painstake and time to prepare, to

985
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Speaker 10: train to compete against other females and not to compete

986
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Speaker 10: against males. And so I'm grateful for the President's leadership

987
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Speaker 10: on this. I'm a one hundred percent supporter of men

988
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Speaker 10: should compete against men, women should compete against women. At

989
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Speaker 10: at HUD, we're upholding that truth when it comes to

990
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Speaker 10: a HUD fund the facilities.

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Speaker 1: Secretary, you played nine years in the NFL. What percentage

992
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Speaker 1: of NFL players do you think are against men being

993
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Speaker 1: able to compete in women's sports.

994
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Speaker 10: Man, if I just had to guess, I would say

995
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Speaker 10: one hundred percent, you know, being playing in the NFL,

996
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Speaker 10: you know, and being in that locker room, playing against

997
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Speaker 10: the best athletes in the world. Just from a common

998
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Speaker 10: sense standpoint, yep, to have a lady compete in the

999
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Speaker 10: NFL or contact football against men that literally could take

1000
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Speaker 10: your life or hurt you real bad, that just makes

1001
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Speaker 10: no sense. And so I would hope to say that

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Speaker 10: it'll be one hundred percent of guys, but it would.

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Speaker 1: Be a crazy percentage. And my argument has been the

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Speaker 1: higher level athletics you have played, I think every guy

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Speaker 1: who plays high school college, obviously very small percentage goes

1006
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Speaker 1: on like you did to play in the pros. But

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Speaker 1: the more of an athlete you are, the crazier I think.

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Speaker 2: You think.

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Speaker 10: This is absolutely I agree, you know, and when you

1010
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 10: go from high school to college to the pros, the

1011
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Speaker 10: level of competition, the strength, the speed, the attitude, you know,

1012
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Speaker 10: there's no comparison. And so I think that guys, like

1013
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 10: I said before, that in an NFL locker room or

1014
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Speaker 10: in an NBA locker room or Major League Baseball locker room,

1015
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Speaker 10: they are you know, we think the same. And when

1016
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Speaker 10: you break it down just to the training, the type

1017
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Speaker 10: of training that we do, and you know, we have

1018
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Speaker 10: ladies that are in professional sports that train vigorously, that train,

1019
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Speaker 10: they're so committed. But when it comes to game and competition,

1020
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Speaker 10: women should compete against women and men should compete against men.

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Speaker 10: You know, I saw videos of a precious volleyball girl.

1022
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Speaker 10: I can't remember her name. She was a female planer

1023
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Speaker 10: in a volleyball match and there was a transgender man

1024
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Speaker 10: I guess on the other side and.

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Speaker 1: He hate I think was her name. It already cut

1026
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Speaker 1: you off at Paknab. I think you're right. That video

1027
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Speaker 1: went viral, that dude soaring up above the net and

1028
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Speaker 1: smashing the ball in a way that a woman couldn't.

1029
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Speaker 10: That's it, I mean, end the story.

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Speaker 1: You were just with the President in the Oval Office

1031
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Speaker 1: for the announcement of the NFL Draft coming to d

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Speaker 1: C twenty twenty seven, new stadium being built for Washington's team.

1033
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: You played for the Redskins back in the day. What

1034
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Speaker 1: is the impact of that for d C and what

1035
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Speaker 1: does the President's commitment mean for DC you think going forward?

1036
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Speaker 10: So yes, I'm very excited for the red Skins on

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Speaker 10: now the Commanders to bring the stadium back to the

1038
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Speaker 10: site where RFK is. I played in RFK, I was

1039
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Speaker 10: drafted by the red Skins. Just the excitement of the

1040
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Speaker 10: team coming back to the capital, coming back to d C.

1041
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 10: The anticipation is great. Even inside of the press conference,

1042
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Speaker 10: you could sense the energy and anticipation from the owners,

1043
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Speaker 10: from Commission, a good day from the President and others

1044
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Speaker 10: to have the stadium back. And so from a sports standpoint,

1045
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Speaker 10: it will be tremendous, but also from an economic development

1046
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Speaker 10: and a community development standpoint, this will make an impact

1047
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Speaker 10: that it hasn't had in many in decades really since

1048
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Speaker 10: I played for the Redskins. I played in the last

1049
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Speaker 10: game in RFK and in the first game in the

1050
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Speaker 10: stadium in Maryland.

1051
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Speaker 2: And so to bring that back.

1052
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Speaker 10: From a housing standpoint, from a commercial development standpoint, retail,

1053
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Speaker 10: from a community engagement standpoint, economically and from a personal

1054
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 10: the people, the families will bring new life back to

1055
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Speaker 10: this area in DC.

1056
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Speaker 2: And so I'm very excited.

1057
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Speaker 10: I know the Redscans or Commander's organization is excited and

1058
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Speaker 10: the people in the capital are looking forward to that.

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Speaker 5: So, as Secretary of Housing and Urban development. What are

1060
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Speaker 5: just some of the top initiatives that President Trump wants

1061
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Speaker 5: you to pursue on behalf of his administration while you're

1062
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Speaker 5: in this role. I mean, because you know, HUD doesn't

1063
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Speaker 5: tend to get the same headlines as a Treasury or

1064
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Speaker 5: the State Department does, Right, But what are some of

1065
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 5: the things that you can do at HUD that would

1066
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Speaker 5: be maga.

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Speaker 10: Well, you're talking about housing. You know, housing impacts every family,

1068
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 10: every individual in our country, all three hundred and fifty

1069
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Speaker 10: million people in this country.

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Speaker 2: Housing makes the impact.

1071
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Speaker 10: Housing is not political, it's not Republican, and it's not democrat.

1072
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Speaker 2: You know, it's not red, it's not blue.

1073
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Speaker 10: We need about seven million units of housing in our country.

1074
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Speaker 10: And while being we may not be in the headlines

1075
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Speaker 10: that it pertains to the news media, what we do

1076
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Speaker 10: on the daily basis impacts every American and so housing

1077
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Speaker 10: affordability is a major priority for us. Taking down burden

1078
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Speaker 10: some regulations, freeing up local control, local flexibility across our country,

1079
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Speaker 10: and providing the local mayors and economic development. You know,

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Speaker 10: every city is unique when it as it pertains the housing,

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Speaker 10: and so we've been working really hard and tearing down

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Speaker 10: rules such as the affirmatively further and fair Housing rule,

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Speaker 10: which was a regional zoning issue here that Washington was

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Speaker 10: telling localities how they should zone their neighborhoods. So taking

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Speaker 10: that down and restoring that back to the localities. Also

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Speaker 10: when it pertains the disaster recovery here, you know, we've

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Speaker 10: had major hurricanes and fires in LA and in North Carolina,

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Speaker 10: and so we are on the front lines of helping

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Speaker 10: families to rebuild their families, their homes, their businesses.

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Speaker 2: And so when you think.

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Speaker 10: About HUD, think about people that are impacting families and

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Speaker 10: impacting individuals right where they are, being in housing, being

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Speaker 10: disaster recovery, being eradicating and attacking homelessness in our country.

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Speaker 10: And so that's what we're about, guys. We literally meet

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Speaker 10: people where they are. The media may not cover it

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Speaker 10: in such a way as they cover other agencies, but

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Speaker 10: that's not what we're concerned about. To your point, what

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Speaker 10: we are concerned about is the assignment we have to

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Speaker 10: serve the American people that we've been caught to serve,

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Speaker 10: and I have the best team in America to do so.

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Speaker 1: We're talking to HUDD Secretary Scott Turner. You're in DC now,

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Speaker 1: how good is Jaden Daniels going to be?

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Speaker 10: Jade And Daniels is a baller and I am super

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Speaker 10: proud of him. You know, he just goes to work.

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Speaker 10: He's one of those guys. He doesn't talk about it.

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Speaker 10: He just gets it done. And what I'm really impressed

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Speaker 10: about him one is his character and the way that

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Speaker 10: he carries himself on and off the field. But also

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Speaker 10: from a professional athlete, former professional athlete standpoint, the game

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Speaker 10: seems to be slow for him, and that's really man's

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Speaker 10: It's miraculous that even in his rookie year, his control

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Speaker 10: down for him, even in his decision making and his

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Speaker 10: checkdowns and having to grasp you know, of the game

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Speaker 10: in the NFL so quickly, is is pretty miraculous.

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Speaker 2: Well, we appreciate you coming on.

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Speaker 1: And boy, I can't wait to see what that new

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Speaker 1: stadium is going to look like. And I promise you

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Speaker 1: that I will be there for the draft in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty seven. That's going to be an incredible scene, perfect location.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, it's gonna be epic.

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Speaker 10: I'll see you there.

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Speaker 1: For sure, all right, appreciate that that is another one

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Speaker 1: of the Trump's cabinet members, the h the HUD director

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Speaker 1: Scott Turner. Fantastic stuff there, I want to tell you.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of fantastic stuff, Buck, are you nervous? Are you

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Speaker 2: Maybe a little bit. I don't think you think the

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Speaker 5: I think it's easy for you, mister I live in

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Speaker 1: That is often, sadly the case. The Knick Celtics play tonight,

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