1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: My name is Eva Longoria and I am and welcome 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: to Hungry for History, a podcast that explores our past 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: and present through food. On every episode, we'll talk about 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: the history of some of our favorite dishes, ingredients, and beverages. 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: So make yourself at home. I'm so excited about this 6 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: episode because I'm a huge coffee drinker. Are you a 7 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: big coffee drink? I do love coffee. I do not 8 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: only in the morning, though, but when I go to 9 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: bed at night. Interesting. Yeah, I don't drink coffee, but 10 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: I can't wait to wake up. I think about it 11 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 1: at night. Yeah. I well, I precked the coffee maker, 12 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 1: I put the timer, and I'm like, coffee, coffee, coffee, coffee. Yes, 13 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: I didn't know this. Coffee is the second most traded 14 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: commodity in the world, only behind petroleum. That's a lot 15 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: of coffee, it is. It's a lot of coffee, you know. 16 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people can say it's the 17 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: drink that sort of fueled the modern era literally liberally 18 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: literally when it entered. I mean you mentioned the Arabic 19 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: he was sort of Arabic influence. But coffee comes from 20 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: it's actually naked to Africa. Coffee. The coffee bean plant. 21 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: Is it a is it a bush or a treat? 22 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,199 Speaker 1: It's a bush. It's a bush. It's the coffee bean. 23 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: And it's this plant that's very very delicate. It grows. 24 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: You have to really take care of it at the 25 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: beginning the seedling. It has to be shaded until it 26 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: gets big enough and then that it can actually be planted. 27 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: So it has to be really really really cared and 28 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: endemic to Africa. It's endemic to Africa, Ethiopia specifically specifically. Yeah, 29 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: so it's Ethiopia. And there are all of these, you 30 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: know stories, there's this the story of this one man. 31 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: He was a goatherd and also a poet. His name 32 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: was Gali in the sixth century. And he was, you know, 33 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: out with the wind whatever with his goats, and all 34 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: of a sudden he saw that his goats started dancing 35 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: and he's like, what's happening. He had they had eaten 36 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: some of the some of the coffee beans, and he 37 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: was like, what is this? So and he was started dancing. 38 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: He started writing poetry, and you know, he said that 39 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: he would never be grumpy or tired ever again. So 40 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: it's these stories. So because of the natural caffeine. That 41 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: because of the natural caffeine. So this is like way 42 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: you know, it is a sixth century, sixth century. This 43 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 1: ledgend a sixth century. But originally they would drink it. 44 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: They would sort of boil the leaves and the and 45 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: the beans would boil it like like like a or 46 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: ground them and make like a like some sort of 47 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 1: like like an energy bar. And they would also take 48 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: the pulp and from nent in and have like a 49 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: coffee wine called gawa. Sort of coffee comes from this kawa. 50 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: So there were sort of different ways. So it went 51 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: from Ethiopia to Yemen, and in Yemen is when you 52 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: would be sort of see it first, you know, the 53 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: whole idea of this sort of coffee shop at people 54 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: getting together. It was it's a social thing, a social thing, 55 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: like this whole idea of and it's still very much 56 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: of social Daia Mexico will be really all over, but 57 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: all over the world it's definitely it's a social thing. 58 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: So you start seeing coffee houses popping up like in 59 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: Mecca and Cairo, you know, so you start seeing these 60 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: these these whole ideas, and it was the Ethiopians that 61 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 1: set up these coffee plantations in Yemen, but it was 62 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: a secret. They didn't want it to leave this area. 63 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: So a monk apparently he takes six beans to his 64 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: stomach and he left the country and introduced them. So 65 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: shady for a monk because it's shake, so scandalous it 66 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: is it is to do, to do something like this, 67 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: it's not cool, it's not. But eventually it's a coffee 68 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: sort of started, you know, spread, you know, from people's 69 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: could grow it in other places. People started growing it. Yeah, 70 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: people started, but but it's still you know, so sort 71 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: of difficult to grow. But eventually they started growing it 72 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: in other places. Needs a specific climate too, it needs 73 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: to be it needs to be hot, it needs to 74 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: be humid. So by the time it made its way 75 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: to Europe, it's like it arrived in Europe in the 76 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: early six d same time that chocolate and tea, chocolate 77 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: from Mexico, chalco from Mexico and tea from China, and 78 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: then coffee from Africa. Africa, so this is they're coming 79 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: out of you know, the Middle Ages still sort of 80 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: at the beginning of this, I was to know about 81 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: the history in England because England is such a tea 82 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: drinking place. I was surprised that coffee had dominated. Yeah. 83 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: The first coffee houses in Europe sixty fifty in Oxford, 84 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: and they work. They were they called them penny universities, right, 85 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: So so basically comby gathered to discuss everything culture and cultures. Yeah, 86 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: and the coffee cost a penny, so you would go. 87 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: You could go there and get your newspaper. You could 88 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 1: talk to only men, the only men, only men. You 89 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: could talk to sort of like minded people, get your news. 90 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: You know. It became the drink of the Enlightenment. Writing 91 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: woke people up from this sort of buzz that they've 92 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: been under for a thousand years when people were drinking 93 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 1: ale in the morning, even kids were drinking ill in 94 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: the morning. So we have these you know. It also 95 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: their drinks from other parts of the world and they're 96 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: really bitter. Um, so they gave people a jolt. And 97 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: they also started sweetening them. Coffee and sugar has to 98 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: do with enslavement, right, Yeah, every specifically the sugar field, 99 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: specifically the sugar field, and one of the driving forces 100 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: was you know, for coffee to the demand to sweeten 101 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: the binner. But yeah, we start seeing these coffee houses 102 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: in Oxford, and then in London and then in Paris. Um. 103 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: So this is when well there was like noted that 104 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: Thomas Jefferson used to be with intellects and coffee houses, right, yeah, 105 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: talking about for the French Revolution or for the French Revolution. 106 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 1: Apparently there's a legend that you drafted the declaration and 107 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: an independence there and Parisian coffee house. But this is 108 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: where all of the you know, intellectuals would would get together, 109 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: right and and in London there was you know, you 110 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: know different there were different ones in London where if 111 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: you were a sailor you would go to a particular 112 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: coffee house, if you were pimp you would go to 113 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: I wonder which one had the best coffee. It was 114 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: like the takes me to stay a week longer. Actually 115 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: it was terrible coffee because they used to It wasn't 116 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: like they brew a coffee like today. They had to 117 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: make a big barrel of coffee and by then it 118 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: was already sort of roasted and all this. It was 119 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: a big barrel of coffee and then they would just 120 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: boil it. So it was they called it, yeah, reboil it. 121 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: So they called it like the syrup of soot and 122 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: it tasted like you know, old shoes, so it had 123 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: these sort of you know, this bad sort of reputation. 124 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: But eventually it made its way to the islands, the 125 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: Caribbean islands, and that is what really kick started the 126 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: whole coffee industry, this main streaming of coffee, Cafe la Maiao, cappuccino. 127 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: Why is it Italian names. Actually, the very first coffee 128 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: house that opened in London, his name was bast Basquiro. 129 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: He was Italian and he also established the first coffee 130 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: house and parents which is still around, Cafe Broc that 131 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: will open in sixteen seventy two. So he was Italian. 132 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: But this is interesting sixteen sixty three, there were eighty 133 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: three coffee houses in London. By seventeen hundred, so just 134 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: you know, forty years later there were two thousand coffee houses. 135 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: So this was how when they were calling it Essenceville 136 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: shoes and syrup of coffee was taxed by the gallon, 137 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: so this is why they had to make it in advance, 138 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: so they would boil cold coffee until So it was 139 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: the Italians that came up with the machine. Then they 140 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: came up with machine, the espresso machine, and that's why 141 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: coffee tastes so good. We could thank Luigi, Yes, Luigi, 142 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: who developed the single shot espresso that was meant to 143 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: be drunk immediately after being served. And that's why you 144 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: drink it at a bar in an Italian coffee shot 145 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,679 Speaker 1: standing because it needs to be drink immediately. So everything 146 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: was centered around the way the espresso was made and 147 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: the way it was consumed. And so when coffeehouses could 148 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: finally get one of these machines, they kept the Italian nomenclatures. 149 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: We learned something now we are so smart, interesting, that 150 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: is so interesting. So and the reason is, once this 151 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 1: espresso craze in the nineteen fifties started to happen, they 152 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: wanted to keep as much Italian identity as possible because 153 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: if you named it Italian names, it meant it was 154 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: authentically authenticity. And so all the coffee houses wanted to 155 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: keep the Italian names and adopt as much Italian as 156 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: possible into their cafe menus. So they said cappuccino and espressed, 157 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: so because it was better marketing. After the break, we'll 158 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: talk more about the history of coffee. Don't go anywhere, 159 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show. Coffee is such a big 160 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: episode for us, we thought we'd featured two voices. Here's 161 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: our first guest, Fernando the As, founder of Broto Thes Coffee, 162 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: giving us some insight into what actually goes into making 163 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: your daily cup of Joe. My name is Fernando Lies 164 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: Mendoza and I'm the founder of projecto DS Coffee. We're 165 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,479 Speaker 1: a coffee roasting company based out of San Leandro, California, 166 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: with a mission to help rebuild and revitalize farms and legacies. 167 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: There's a few things that I feel that people don't 168 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: quite understand. We're aware of the intensity about coffee. You 169 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: have to keep in mind the coffee is harvested about 170 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: once a year because the majority of countries only produced 171 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: one crop, and that crop comes to maturity in about 172 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: a span of three three ish months. For example smaller 173 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: producers that we work with. Everything is picked by hand 174 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: and this coffee is then transported miles away from the 175 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: farm to a processing location where it then gets ready 176 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: to be exported. So it travels literally a thousands and 177 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: thousands of miles to finally get to its point of 178 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: destination and to our cup. We're still in Vera Couz, 179 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: which is kind of a coffee hot spot. It is 180 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: a coffee house spot, and we were at this afternoon 181 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: at Cafe, which is the old just coffee shop in Mexico, 182 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: and they serve the coffee with lots of milk, with 183 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: lots of milk, and they pour them milk from which 184 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: ironically is an Arabic thing. Yeah. The worry when you know, 185 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: you started the cup and then you res it up 186 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: and it is that long stream, which I found really interesting. 187 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: That is very interesting. Yeah. So the roots and coffee 188 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: didn't enter Mexico until the eighteenth century, so it arrived, 189 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: you know, quite quite late, and it arrived through better 190 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: Gruz and it arrived through Manacos. There were two entrances. 191 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: The very first entrance was Dacus, right, the very first 192 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: contact where people things started for This was the very 193 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: first port. And then there was also the port of 194 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: a Well on the other side, on the other side, 195 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: on the on the Pacific side. Yeah, so it was 196 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: it was this one on the Gulf and then on 197 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: the Pacific side, and there was those Manilla galleons, so 198 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: lots of things were entering through there and the Manilla 199 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: galleons they were leaving Manila and the Philippines which was 200 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: also a Spanish colony at the time, and they were 201 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,599 Speaker 1: going once or twice a year for two hundred and 202 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: fifty years from Vanilla Takaba back and forth, and lots 203 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: of things were coming in and out through there as well. 204 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: Sorry that noises. Two parrots outside of our door, like 205 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: they're hungry, you're fighting. We're in the middle of the 206 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: jungle learning to pull up us still, Just so you 207 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: guys know, it takes thirty nine gallons of water. That's crazy, 208 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 1: just to make one cup of a cup of coffee. 209 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: A cup of coffee. Ye, same with beer. Beer takes 210 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: a lot of water. Yeah, because I was at the 211 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: brewery in r Lean and they were like, it takes 212 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 1: a lot of water to make one bottle of beer. 213 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: Oh wow. Yeah. Any time you have to steep something, 214 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 1: roast something clean something, I mean, I don't know, I 215 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: don't know the process. It takes a long time, and 216 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: you have to take care of the plant, let it 217 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: ride ben get the beans and then dry them and 218 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: roast them. And they have to be picked by hand. 219 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a very time, you know. I was 220 00:12:56,120 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: in Central American a farm workers philanthropic tree it and 221 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 1: there was this bug called Russ. They called it the 222 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: Russ and they lost all the harvest that year because 223 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: it's a very delicate plant and these bugs just infested 224 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: it and it just devastated Central America for like two 225 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: years because they couldn't get rid of this bug. And 226 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: you know, coffee is just the demand for it, you know, 227 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: all of the world is insane. And you know, it's 228 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: interesting because we're here in Vera Cruz where actually they 229 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: do a large coffee production because of the climate, this 230 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: fall kin of rock, the mountains, the weather like it 231 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: was like perfect scenario for these plants to grow. And 232 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: now they you know, they've become famous for but it's 233 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: moved to Pueblo, it's moved to always moved to other regions. Um, 234 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: what did Colombia become so famous for coffee? But Brazil's 235 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: the number one coffee producer, Zil's the number one coffee producer, 236 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: and it was until a seventeen hundred, so coffee rapped 237 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: in Mexico seventeen forty, so not that long ago really considering. So, 238 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: but yeah, Brazil and Colombia and they also they grow 239 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: so much, they have so much land, right, so they 240 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: are major you know, coffee producers. Vietnam is number two, 241 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: Vietnama's number two, Brazil's number one, Vietnam's number two, and 242 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: then Colombia is number three. But they say Colombia is 243 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: the best coffee because of also that climate. There's that 244 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: so even though it's not the biggest producer of it, 245 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: the quality of it because of the climate. It's mostly 246 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: because climates and they have they've perfect the soil, the 247 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: climate and their technique is different. They say that the 248 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: coffee from Dacruz is the best, that is the best 249 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: in Mexico. Yes, that it's very citrusy, interesting and nutty. 250 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: I do. I am a familier of coffee. Like I 251 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: can tell notes. I think, oh this is bitter, Oh 252 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: this is sour, this is like I really can can 253 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: taste the different you know, characteristics, the nuance you got 254 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: the nuances just like wine. Like I'm just like, oh this, yeah, 255 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: this one, So that's interesting. You say more citrate because 256 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: we were at the cafe today. Yeah, I had so 257 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: much milk about so I know, I was like stop, 258 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: but that's they pour the hot milk from way above 259 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: and that's what creates the phone, which I thought was 260 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: really fascinating. But Colombia is a good combination of the 261 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: ecosystem's altitude, climate and gorood farm practices. That's and so 262 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: they can consistently produce all year round instead of seasonally. 263 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: I have a funny coffee story. Okay, that's related to 264 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: Corpus Christie home. We used to spend summers there. My 265 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: whole life, like all summer in Laredo. We just switched, 266 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: just switch in Fari Island. My parents had a condo 267 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: there and my cousins would come, so it was like 268 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: a whole army of children, and all of the moms 269 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: would like be in one apartment playing cards, and my 270 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: cousins and I would all just run around all night. 271 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: And there was an office in the building, and I 272 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: was like seven years old. I would go to the office, 273 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: put myself a coffee with creamer and sit by the 274 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: pool and dreaming coffee and then run around the crazy 275 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: How old were you like seven? Oh my gosh, seven, eight, nine? Yeah, 276 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: we're children? Is it true at stunt? Your growth must 277 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: not be true? Well, we're both sure. And because I 278 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: started about seven, right, because you know my story is 279 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: it was a chore. So my mom would go you 280 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: make the coffee in the morning for your dad, And 281 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: so we all rotated where we had to wake up 282 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: make the coffee for my dad to go to work 283 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: at six am, so it would fill the house. And 284 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: I just remember opening the folders can the tin can 285 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: and that smell and I would scoop it. My mom 286 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: taught me had the measurement and we'd put the water 287 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: and so to me, it reminds me of home. It's 288 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: very nostalgic a smell. And ironically, when I got pregnant, 289 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: I had an an adverse reaction to it. You know, 290 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: people are cravings when they're pregnant. I did. I had 291 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: just I couldn't. I couldn't stand the smell of coffee. 292 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: And I'm like, just stay coffee as soon as I 293 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: have my baby. I was back. It was just a 294 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: weird version version version is not not that thing, but 295 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: it's a big part of my day. And I was 296 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: telling my as my girl, I think I drank six 297 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: seven cups a day, but he goes, you never finished one, 298 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: and I got that's true, so maybe I'm not drinking 299 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: six or seven. Do you drink of them throughout the day, 300 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: throughout the day so you can have a coffee, and 301 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: I would have an espresso before going to bed and 302 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: you still sleep. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love it. I 303 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 1: just have it in the morning and I love it. 304 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: I love it. How do you drink it? Um, you 305 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: don't want I'm all over the place. I drink black 306 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: coffee in the morning, just black before I work out. 307 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: Then after work out, I have a cafic ubano, not 308 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: as sweet as the traditional ones and not with condensed milk. 309 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: I have a lactate free milk because I'm lactose and taller. 310 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 1: And then I'll have a small quote quotdroup of shot latte. 311 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: And then in the afternoon I'll have a quote battle 312 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: on an espresso shot with a manchat milker, okay saying 313 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: that yeah, so literally that's my day. I just up. Yeah. 314 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: I'm not a big creamer milk person. I like I 315 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: like coffee with a little bit of milk. You know 316 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: people like milk with a little bit of coffee. Yeah, 317 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: I like a little bit of milk, but but enough, 318 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 1: just coffee with milk. That's it. After the break, I'm 319 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: gonna share a special recipe with you. Espresso martini's with tequila. Boy. 320 00:18:42,400 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: You can't wait Welcome back, Tony very Street. There are 321 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: many small coffee farmers in Mexico producing incredible coffees. Someone 322 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: helping those small producers export their top quality beans to 323 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: the world is Rosalvavia, founder of the Import Expert coffee 324 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 1: business Mayan Harvest, born in Chiapas, Mexico. When we asked 325 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: her what inspired her to start her company, Rosalva said 326 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: she was looking for a cause and she found it 327 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: in Coffee vax. Rosalva also said she works with a 328 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 1: wide variety of people, from large businesses to poor vendors. 329 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: She says that her mission is to serve as a 330 00:19:45,760 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: bridge of information for both sides of the coffee marketcone Um. 331 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: When we asked her what people needed to know about 332 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: coffee in Mexico, here's what she said. It's important for 333 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: people to know that in Mexico there are jewels of 334 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: coffee are such high quality they can compete with any 335 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: coffee from anywhere in the world. Mexico existing hoys the 336 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: cafe I was looking at like because I was like, 337 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: I drink a lot of coffee, and I was like, 338 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,479 Speaker 1: oh is that bad? And I isn't bad? And they 339 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: were saying the benefits still far away good damn coffee, right, 340 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: you mean like physically, like, yeah, that's that. Drinking coffee 341 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: has several health benefits. A lot of the nutrients and 342 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: coffee beans do make their way into the finished root drink. 343 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 1: It's packed with antioxidants and vitamins such as rebel flavor 344 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: and magnesium potassium. Coffee can help lessen depression, promote a 345 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: healthy heart, and reduce the risk of developing type two diabetes. 346 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: That's if you're not ordering the carmel macchiatto like that 347 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: sugar coffee. The drink Parkinson disease, Alzheimer's, liver disease, and 348 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: liver cancer. So I found that interesting that it still 349 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: has a lot more health benefits than it doesn't eat damage. 350 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: Of course, the energy boost is the big reason why 351 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 1: a lot of people drink it, But the number two 352 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: reason people drink coffee is the routine. The comfort in 353 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 1: the routine, which is when you when I started this podcast, 354 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: with the effort in just waking up doing that thing 355 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 1: in the morning. There's a great meme on Instagram that says, 356 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: I don't have my shipped together, but every time I 357 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 1: make my coffee in the morning, it kind of makes 358 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 1: me feel like I got my ship together because at 359 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: least I have my coffee. I love that. At least 360 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 1: you know that you you did that right. Yeah. I 361 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: like French presses, the coffee. I think you're French phrases. 362 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: I French press, I do espresso, do brewed. My my 363 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: husband calls you know, the brewing coffee soft water because 364 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: he loves espresso. The third reason that people the number 365 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: three top reason why people drink coffee is the culture 366 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: of social interaction, which is so crazy that that's number three. Yeah, 367 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: that's how it started. Yeah, and that's still like I 368 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: mean even now, like let's get together. I remember growing 369 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 1: out my mom she would have friends over, yes in 370 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: the afternoon, Yeah, in the afternoon or like the after dinner, 371 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: after our meal, and it's this it prolongs the meal. 372 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: And you know, it's part of this you know, socialist. 373 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: It's a social foster, social interaction, and it dates back century. 374 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: It dates back centuries. And there is an our physician 375 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: in the year around the year one thousand of sen 376 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: as the name in our physician, and you where at 377 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: that coffee cleanse the skin gives excellent smell for the 378 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: body and also fortifies the body. This is around the 379 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: year one thousand so even, and then they knew what 380 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: I'd benefit that. I don't think anything goes better with 381 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: coffee than tequila. And I have an amazing espresso martini recipe, 382 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: but with tequila, I've never had coffee with Your life's 383 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 1: about to be changed. Wow, coffee tequila. Hello, let's make it, nap, 384 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: let's make it now. My espresso martini with tequila is 385 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 1: super simple. You get a shaker, you put some ice, 386 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: an espresso shot, tequila, and I put a little bit 387 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: of vanilla. Shake it up. You shake it up and 388 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: throw it in a martini glass. Have you ever tried it? 389 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: Like yes, with a rim lush? Oh yeah, you could 390 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 1: slush it. I'm sure that's a That's a frappuccino, isn't it. Yeah? 391 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: But also you know what I put into it was 392 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: that dorrito. Have you had that? It's it's it's no, 393 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: I didn't try it. It was that. But you can 394 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: put a vanilla liqueur and I got a vanilla liqueur 395 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: from the vanilla plant we were at. So I put 396 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: a little vanilla liquore, tequila, an espresso shot. That's it 397 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 1: sounds shake it up? Thank you? 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