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Speaker 3: see padded football players. They got the pads on today, Nicky.
Speaker 4: Twelve or five starts, Okay, very good, All right.
Speaker 5: You might have to go out and peak.
Speaker 4: Uh huh see what you see out there.
Speaker 5: And there's no win today.
Speaker 4: I try because yesterday they started outside and then they
Speaker 4: got a little too windy, and so they moved it
Speaker 4: inside to take the coaches show this morning. And he said,
Speaker 4: when you got when you're having trouble with your passing game,
Speaker 4: you want to go ahead and take it.
Speaker 6: Inside, not to try to throw with or with the
Speaker 6: We got enough problems without win messy with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So so here we are.
Speaker 6: It's Texans wait fired up for Monday night.
Speaker 5: It's the Texas Showdown, that's right, Big showdown.
Speaker 6: Is there a name for it.
Speaker 5: I saw somebody call them the Texas Showdown.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 7: Got one team on a four game losing streak and
Speaker 7: the other one on a two game losing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Texans have lost three of their last four games.
Speaker 4: They're not exactly on a roll.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but they're still in first place.
Speaker 6: That's right.
Speaker 4: They're six and four. There's a difference. They got their quarterback,
Speaker 4: that's right. Yeah, it was a good.
Speaker 2: Game the other night. They detroyed game.
Speaker 4: They were up twenty three to seven, and then the
Speaker 4: Lions came roaring back. Five picks for.
Speaker 2: The Texas, five picks off.
Speaker 4: It was the most efficient quarterback in the history of
Speaker 4: the game. And then he throws five.
Speaker 2: There is no consistency in this league. This is the
Speaker 2: guy that was except.
Speaker 5: Eighteen or something.
Speaker 4: That was the Tony Romo Buffalo game over again. It
Speaker 4: basically was, which was one on a last second field
Speaker 4: goal by Nick Folk, and this was won by on
Speaker 4: two last second field goals by the Lions, one of
Speaker 4: fifty two yards and one of fifty eight yards.
Speaker 2: You remember Nick lost his bearings as a kicker, do
Speaker 2: you recall that?
Speaker 5: And he got him back.
Speaker 2: He got it back. But that was so weird how
Speaker 2: he couldn't make a field goal, not even in warm ups.
Speaker 6: I could check not blocking.
Speaker 2: Second first, but it was his was he was slicing everything.
Speaker 2: Oh my bad about that.
Speaker 7: Romo was just stubborn in that game against Buffalo. It
Speaker 7: was like they were dropping the linebackers in the coverage
Speaker 7: and it's like I can throw over the linebackers.
Speaker 5: He kept getting picked off and it's like, okay, enough.
Speaker 2: Is it not to be stubborn?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but not in that way?
Speaker 5: And then they got it going there there.
Speaker 6: Was five picks, wasn't it.
Speaker 2: I think it was geez.
Speaker 5: And I think maybe in the first half, I.
Speaker 6: Think it was yep.
Speaker 2: I can't do that here. I can't do that. I
Speaker 2: might be on camera. You are, I see you right now,
Speaker 2: Clarence Hill, because I could have hitten it with my
Speaker 2: with my.
Speaker 4: ID to give Clarence Hiel the hook of horns sign,
Speaker 4: and I was gonna.
Speaker 2: Give him a sign to.
Speaker 5: Horns.
Speaker 2: There wasn't going to be that one.
Speaker 6: So anyway, but c J.
Speaker 4: Stroud, he's been sacked thirty four times this season. You
Speaker 4: see that I did not thirty four sacks and ten
Speaker 4: games three point four games.
Speaker 2: A lot that is that you're on the way the
Speaker 2: entry when you get hit.
Speaker 4: That minute, and and yet and there's other times where
Speaker 4: the in fact McCarthy was talking about on his coaching
Speaker 4: show and throwing out in a phone booth and you know,
Speaker 4: he's got that pocket collapsing around him. And Isaiah Standback
Speaker 4: actually illustrated one of them a pass that he made
Speaker 4: to the back corner of the end zone to Tank
Speaker 4: Dell and he's got that pocket collapse where there's no
Speaker 4: room to move in there, but he had and he's
Speaker 4: probably about the fifteen or twenty yard and I wasn't
Speaker 4: that long of a throw, but across the field it's good,
Speaker 4: maybe thirty yards.
Speaker 6: It was tough, yeah, just to have enough arm measuring chrissy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, to be able to get it right where it
Speaker 4: needed to be, which was well it was unfortunately it
Speaker 4: was Dwight clocklike but it was in the corner.
Speaker 6: Sorry, man, It just gave him.
Speaker 2: You know, I think I think he had. It's something
Speaker 2: deep down and field that he hates me, man. I
Speaker 2: think he still holds that against me decade. It was
Speaker 2: the best example.
Speaker 6: Everyone's got a view.
Speaker 2: Remember what was the guy in the Pittsburgh super Bowl.
Speaker 2: He went up and caught that perfect pass.
Speaker 6: Because we don't remember his name.
Speaker 2: Or something, are they giants?
Speaker 7: Guy?
Speaker 5: That pended against him?
Speaker 6: He got Okay.
Speaker 4: So from now on, when when I think of Dwyke Clark,
Speaker 4: I'll think of Santonio Holmes and no one.
Speaker 2: Will know what you're talking about.
Speaker 6: That's a good one, but it gave you a visual
Speaker 6: of it. There it is.
Speaker 2: And by the way, is doing a great job. Is
Speaker 2: that the NFL network?
Speaker 4: Oh, I thought you were talking about on Cowboys Game.
Speaker 2: Day on Sunday morning about by Bill Jones. No, I'm
Speaker 2: not talking about that.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 4: They know was giving him grief because he was wearing
Speaker 4: seattle stuff too much.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that, but I see him, I see him.
Speaker 2: I didn't know he had had the gig this season. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it started because.
Speaker 5: You can't see the screen your backs to it.
Speaker 2: That's it. That's it. And I well, you know, one
Speaker 2: morning I decided to just turn it on there and
Speaker 2: there was a great job. He's really good at. So
Speaker 2: that's from hanging out with you, right, did you.
Speaker 5: Having played quarterback?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that that that doesn't mean that you're gonna
Speaker 2: you know, try to come out well on the scene.
Speaker 5: You see the field, yes, and he sees.
Speaker 6: There, but you have to be able to communicate.
Speaker 2: And he does a great job at that. That's good.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 5: That's Bill's influenced that.
Speaker 2: It must be. It must be.
Speaker 4: You're going to get a gig on the NFL network.
Speaker 2: I need to hang around with you more.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 6: We're training you up here on.
Speaker 2: The wonders for your Yes, we're talking about the red
Speaker 2: clock all the time.
Speaker 6: That's why. That's why we give you those reads.
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you to practice.
Speaker 4: You're practicing up but I won't be reading on if
Speaker 4: I'm on work. Okay, So that's part of the interview.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
Speaker 7: That what we did for Nate. He can't get enough, right,
Speaker 7: No one is on everything.
Speaker 2: They spend but twelve hours a day up here.
Speaker 6: And he's you know, this morning I saw him.
Speaker 4: He's back in his lab looking at offensive line video.
Speaker 2: You know, the casey has to spend the night. Yeah.
Speaker 7: I saw Someboddy writing a story and they were talking
Speaker 7: about how you know, coaches sleep in the office and
Speaker 7: I'm get out of here.
Speaker 5: They don't do that anymore. It didn't happen.
Speaker 2: They did at Valley Ran back.
Speaker 5: In the day.
Speaker 6: How would you know what?
Speaker 4: Hell?
Speaker 7: I used to sleep in the office Valley Ran. Yeah,
Speaker 7: how do I know?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I mean I guarantee you how what kind of access
Speaker 4: do you have to the coach's uh offices here now
Speaker 4: at the start, because.
Speaker 6: We you had great access.
Speaker 4: In fact, back in the day at Vallet Ranch, we
Speaker 4: had to walk by the down the hallway where all
Speaker 4: the assistant coaches offices were in order to get to
Speaker 4: the television studio.
Speaker 5: Actually we could walk through their hallways where the head coaches,
Speaker 5: where the offices were.
Speaker 2: So did anyone complain about that a distraction now to
Speaker 2: the coach?
Speaker 7: No, you were just hoping you'd walk by and they
Speaker 7: would say hey, hi, you know, and then you go, okay,
Speaker 7: I got an opening right.
Speaker 5: Right asked my question.
Speaker 2: I would go, you walk by.
Speaker 4: I would go to the bathroom just about every fifteen minutes,
Speaker 4: just hoping that I would find an assistant coach there
Speaker 4: to ask him a question about something.
Speaker 2: But then they asked you why you go so often?
Speaker 2: You go, it's my equipment, good excuse.
Speaker 6: The right had some great conversations.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, though, you weren't old enough to have those
Speaker 2: issues right back in?
Speaker 4: Yeah, when we moved here in twenty sixteen, right, yeah, so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, unfortunately moved in at night.
Speaker 7: Now I'm joking, what now, they moved in when we
Speaker 7: were at training that's right, that's right. I could remember
Speaker 7: coming here afterwards, and everybody had been most people had
Speaker 7: been here except for those of us at training camp.
Speaker 7: I was scared to walk around because I thought I'd
Speaker 7: get in a room where I couldn't get back out,
Speaker 7: like I didn't have.
Speaker 5: The right Mike my maadials, Yeah, my wouldn't.
Speaker 4: So how many how many players on this team now
Speaker 4: went to a practice at Valley.
Speaker 5: Ranch, DeMarcus Lawrence, Zach.
Speaker 4: Martin, Dak Prescott, and Zeke Elliott it was off season,
Speaker 4: he was they were drafted. They were drafted in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 4: And uh e because I remember Zeke holding court right
Speaker 4: by where Emmett used too, in that same corner of
Speaker 4: the locker room. Uh and Dak as well, and Dak
Speaker 4: wasn't didn't have Akman's locker. But and that's about it, right,
Speaker 4: I think it probably?
Speaker 8: So?
Speaker 5: How about right about coaching staff?
Speaker 4: Mm?
Speaker 5: Hmmm about it?
Speaker 7: Nobody right, m hm, well no, Mike Solary going way
Speaker 7: back was Greg Ellis when they first got there.
Speaker 6: Mike Zimmer Yeah.
Speaker 2: Made the return. Uh huh.
Speaker 5: He had the gap in between, and then there would
Speaker 5: have been some people.
Speaker 2: I would have lost that trivia question.
Speaker 5: In the scout.
Speaker 4: Oh there's a little there's several in the scouting department.
Speaker 6: All right, all right, what's on your mind?
Speaker 4: After our mind? There weren't a lot of tweets coming
Speaker 4: out of the Mike McCarthy press conference.
Speaker 2: It wasn't much when you got when you have nothing
Speaker 2: to look forward to, necessarily, what are you going to say?
Speaker 4: Well, one thing, I went through the entire day yesterday
Speaker 4: and it was like, is no one going to have
Speaker 4: any report at all on Dak Prescott's surgery yesterday? And
Speaker 4: then I finally noticed David Moore last night posted something.
Speaker 4: He was the only one to post something that he
Speaker 4: did have successful surgery yesterday.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I assume that at some point somebody is going to
Speaker 6: say that.
Speaker 7: It's like, you know what, surgeries these days, it's like
Speaker 7: planes landing at df W.
Speaker 5: The only one you worried about is the one that
Speaker 5: doesn't land right.
Speaker 6: And that's what I was worried about im.
Speaker 4: I haven't heard about the successful surgery yet, and so anyway.
Speaker 2: If it wasn't successful, yeah, then you were here. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but it is uh when you're talking about the franchise
Speaker 2: player of the team.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no one's even just assuming.
Speaker 4: But macarthy said that he talked with d last night
Speaker 4: and so he's in good spirits and ready to attack
Speaker 4: the recovery process.
Speaker 5: Now it's going to be a tough one.
Speaker 2: So was it a tough press competent? Anybody Pepper Mike
Speaker 2: with questions? They've given up.
Speaker 5: There was no shade. We were good.
Speaker 4: There no Monday night games, so they don't have to
Speaker 4: ask about the sun.
Speaker 2: Ah.
Speaker 7: Interesting, you know what, since you brought that up, you
Speaker 7: brought it up sixteen game home winning streak. I figured
Speaker 7: out that they played eight games that started during that
Speaker 7: streak or seven seven or eight that started at three
Speaker 7: twenty five.
Speaker 5: They managed to win them all.
Speaker 4: Did you check the weather conditions on those?
Speaker 7: I didn't see if it were right or the angle
Speaker 7: of the sun at that time.
Speaker 5: When they played the games. We need to sixteen game homes.
Speaker 2: Some wapies out here talk about the Solace, the Winter
Speaker 2: Solace or something I don't know. This is, this is
Speaker 2: really getting ridiculous that you have to check all those variables.
Speaker 2: See where the sun was setting at that time. So obviously,
Speaker 2: well except for Keller Moore, nobody had a problem with
Speaker 2: the sun, right because Kellen Moore seemed to.
Speaker 7: Say, oh, he it was, and he said it has been,
Speaker 7: it ongoing, he knows, he knows, and she got kind
Speaker 7: of prepare for it. But again, the sun would not
Speaker 7: have been a problem had they blocked ninety three at
Speaker 7: the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 5: Who forced Cooper.
Speaker 7: Rush to throw the ball probably sooner than he needed
Speaker 7: to because, like I said yesterday, two more steps than
Speaker 7: he was in the shade, but he had to get
Speaker 7: rid of the ball because they didn't pick up ninety
Speaker 7: three came in.
Speaker 2: Well, two more steps and he might run into more
Speaker 2: coverage as well.
Speaker 5: Guy was way behind him.
Speaker 6: Was he?
Speaker 4: But he wasn't running into So you're thinking that the
Speaker 4: play design what took the son into.
Speaker 7: We're supposed to throw it just yet, even though they were.
Speaker 6: Actually using it as a home field.
Speaker 2: Advantage, even though he was talking about analytics exactly what
Speaker 2: the son's going to be at that particular time.
Speaker 5: Two more steps in the dB would have.
Speaker 2: Been in the sun.
Speaker 4: We may not catch it, but neither are they, right,
Speaker 4: so we're not going to turn it over down here.
Speaker 5: Okay, So injury update.
Speaker 7: Bland still working with the rehab, Brandon Cooks still with
Speaker 7: the rehabs. Guiton's supposed to be good to go. Tyler
Speaker 7: Tyler Smith missed yesterday, but they feel like he'll be
Speaker 7: back in practice. Lewis Jordan Lewis missed yesterday. It's going
Speaker 7: to start with the rehab, but they think he can practice,
Speaker 7: and then Kendrick and Zach Martin should be good to
Speaker 7: get back in Lewis, I'm not sure what it was.
Speaker 7: It was a leg injury. And then one body around
Speaker 7: blower body.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's doing around. And then Juanier.
Speaker 7: Thomas should clear concussion protocol so he should be good
Speaker 7: to go again.
Speaker 2: And good.
Speaker 5: Uh, yeah, he practiced yesterday.
Speaker 7: He should go again. The day it was a burst
Speaker 7: of sacking. Oh that's what he told me, So somebody
Speaker 7: had to tell him that, Yeah, which can be somewhat painful.
Speaker 2: Do they just drain it? Is it that easy?
Speaker 5: I was told you don't, you don't touch me, don't.
Speaker 5: I don't want to do this again.
Speaker 7: But I did in my elbow when the when the
Speaker 7: roof came down and I my bird, so a sac
Speaker 7: kind of got big. I hit my elbow when I
Speaker 7: hit the ground, and I asked doctor Fowler. I said, so,
Speaker 7: do we need to drain Oh no, no, you don't
Speaker 7: want to drain it.
Speaker 5: I said, okay.
Speaker 4: It depends on the cause of the inflammation, whether there
Speaker 4: is an infection.
Speaker 5: West Coast doctor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's smiling.
Speaker 4: According to the Internet, resting the affected area and using
Speaker 4: bandages and anti inflammatory medications usually helps to make the
Speaker 4: inflammation go away.
Speaker 2: That sounds there. You go, that sounds good.
Speaker 6: That's from the National Institutes of Health.
Speaker 7: It was painful, by the way, but yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 7: he's good to go. So they just can't get Bland
Speaker 7: back in the field, and they need to get him
Speaker 7: on the field. I don't know if you go back
Speaker 7: out there with Kayln Carson or you know, they finished
Speaker 7: the fourth quarter with Makwamoo out there. I don't know
Speaker 7: that he's played that many snaps that outside cornerback.
Speaker 2: He did a good job, was it last year?
Speaker 5: But he was more in the slot last year?
Speaker 2: Well, to me, the slot's more difficult. Yeah, so if
Speaker 2: he could play the slot, but.
Speaker 5: He was playing that big linebacker type slot.
Speaker 2: Right, But but he was he was playing some some quick,
Speaker 2: little wide receivers. He was covering the wide receivers. To me,
Speaker 2: if you can, if you can do the slot, it's
Speaker 2: not it's not a problem going from the corner to slot.
Speaker 5: Well, he was a corner at South Carolina.
Speaker 2: It's it's harder to go uhh Yeah, it's hard to
Speaker 2: go from corner to slot than slot to corner because
Speaker 2: of course the difficulty of when you got that sideline
Speaker 2: is your protection when you're on the outside as a corner. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's something you can feel that you know, and you
Speaker 2: play with it.
Speaker 4: Texans have a couple of big, big receivers, one of
Speaker 4: Nico Collins apparently going to be back this week.
Speaker 2: I've been shooting for me. Oh yeah, there's no speech
Speaker 2: give him self. Well, we were supposed to go down there.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, it was South Padre and so we we
Speaker 2: you know, we're supposed to speak to the kids because
Speaker 2: they had this All American Awards banquet. So these guys
Speaker 2: were these were McDonald's All Americans and so you know,
Speaker 2: he gets up there and we're both supposed to make
Speaker 2: a speech. He gets up there and says like thank
Speaker 2: you for coming and sits his butt down, and then
Speaker 2: they make me stay up there for like twenty minutes.
Speaker 5: But we were there for the same thing you could do.
Speaker 2: No, they didn't. No, they don't know me down there.
Speaker 2: But it's his town. I mean, that's that's South Texas.
Speaker 2: That's Nico's area. That's not my area. So when he
Speaker 2: gave the speech and I passed right by him, I
Speaker 2: looked at him like, Okay, dude, good job.
Speaker 6: Well he's having a great year and he.
Speaker 2: Ain't shy on the field at all. He acted shy
Speaker 2: up on the podium, but on the field, this guy's working.
Speaker 2: He was leading the league and Tarley went.
Speaker 4: Well well in five games forty five targets, so nine
Speaker 4: targets a game, with thirty two receptions four five hundred
Speaker 4: and sixty seven yards averaging seventeen point seven yards.
Speaker 5: Yes, so somebody's got to cover him.
Speaker 4: And he's six four, two hundred and fifteen pound four five.
Speaker 2: Yeah he can go. Well. Yeah, he's got game speed too.
Speaker 2: It's not just at forty speed. He's got games.
Speaker 7: Well, here's how you cover him. You get the Stroud.
Speaker 7: Keep the pressure going, keep pressure, keep the pressure on.
Speaker 5: How many sacks would you say he's suffered a thirty four?
Speaker 5: Thirty four?
Speaker 2: And that it's not like we're immune to sacks. We've
Speaker 2: been getting them five in.
Speaker 6: The first half the other day.
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Speaker 11: Speaking of yes, Ef person is showing me an interview
Speaker 11: on YouTube that features Julian Edelman and John bon Jovi.
Speaker 2: He just said, my name, that's me.
Speaker 5: He had a bar backing down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Cowboys boys cafe.
Speaker 5: Yeah that's how you got mentioned because.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, because they're going to the bar. I'm just
Speaker 2: And Edelman was like, no, I don't, I don't. I
Speaker 2: don't remember him so I know he's five, but he
Speaker 2: remembered early on in later on in the interview that
Speaker 2: Rocher Craig fumble the ball, so if he's five years.
Speaker 6: Old, so eversaid.
Speaker 4: So eversond in a group text sends us this link
Speaker 4: to this YouTube interview that Edelman Edward bon Jovi, and
Speaker 4: bon Jovi is a huge Giants fan. So they're talking
Speaker 4: about wide right and the Super Bowl that Everson wanted
Speaker 4: to ring in, And so Everson says, he sends that
Speaker 4: link and tells us that Edelman doesn't remember me.
Speaker 2: Of all people, John by Jovie does, but Edelman doesn't.
Speaker 2: And what I what I did was when I sent
Speaker 2: it to you, somehow it was designed to where if
Speaker 2: you hit the bottom of it, then you go straight
Speaker 2: to the clip.
Speaker 4: Okay. So anyway, so it's like a seventy five minute interview.
Speaker 4: So I started listening to it, and then I takest
Speaker 4: it back and said, how much of this damn interview do.
Speaker 6: I have to listen to?
Speaker 4: Can you tell can you tell me where they mentioned you?
Speaker 4: Or do I have to listen to this whole seventy
Speaker 4: five minute interview?
Speaker 2: I don't know why at the bottom, if you just
Speaker 2: clicked Everson under the bottom of what I sent you,
Speaker 2: that goes straight to the clip. I didn't know that's
Speaker 2: how it worked. But I'm not one of those.
Speaker 4: The reason Julian Edelman hasn't heard of Everson Walls because
Speaker 4: he was five.
Speaker 2: Years old, and once again he remembered Roger Craig fumbling
Speaker 2: the ball at five years old when we kicked their
Speaker 2: butts in New York.
Speaker 4: In San Francis, what's the most memorable part of wide
Speaker 4: right to you, Mickey Scott Norwood missing the forty eight
Speaker 4: yard field goal and Everson winning his ring?
Speaker 2: You want?
Speaker 5: You want to know for sure?
Speaker 6: Yeah, the kick was.
Speaker 5: I was right on deadline and I was looking out
Speaker 5: the window. The window was open in the.
Speaker 7: Press box, and I was looking out and see what
Speaker 7: the final score.
Speaker 5: Was going to be so I could send my story
Speaker 5: right and then ever.
Speaker 4: Since, my lasting memory of it is the video of
Speaker 4: Everson saying it's wide right.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It went over my head. So that's when there's
Speaker 2: the video of you, yeah.
Speaker 4: Motioning white right, yeah, right over. That's what I remember.
Speaker 2: That's what I knew. So I go in, I go
Speaker 2: into a locker room. This is my moment, man, I'm
Speaker 2: finally got my moment. And they asked me, so, how
Speaker 2: you feel eversince, I started crying and they left because
Speaker 2: the LT came in the little So that was my moment.
Speaker 2: There was video, no, no, not at the podium, No,
Speaker 2: there was. I lifted my head up after crying and
Speaker 2: everybody was gone because LT had just walked in, so like, okay,
Speaker 2: well see let me go get.
Speaker 6: You the he but it was it was it a
Speaker 6: camera crew that was asking.
Speaker 2: Or just no, it was that was the moment. It
Speaker 2: was all the media was there. Okay, right, they were there,
Speaker 2: and then LT walked down T walks in just as
Speaker 2: I'm fit. Then all of a sudden, oh yeah thanks, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it is typical.
Speaker 6: And Joby you remember job being in there?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, he was that guy. He was that guy.
Speaker 2: He came to my to a Cowboys sports cafe because
Speaker 2: I told him to come, That's why, and he came.
Speaker 2: This was in the ninety one season. Yep. That wasn't
Speaker 2: the ninety season when bon Jovi was talking about going
Speaker 2: to the cafe. Oh okay, that was the ninety one
Speaker 2: season and we were defending champions. So yeah, just to
Speaker 2: put that in perspective, so next time you just punch
Speaker 2: on the bottom that says ever since and it will
Speaker 2: go straight to what I just showed you.
Speaker 6: Said what I remember.
Speaker 4: The ninety season is seven and nine season and TV
Speaker 4: cruise and everybody out at the Cowboys Sports Cafe the
Speaker 4: night after the season was over after a loss to Atlanta,
Speaker 4: because players were at the Cowboys Sports Cafe game for
Speaker 4: the Monday night game to see if at seven and
Speaker 4: nine the Cowboys could get into the playoffs. Whatever was
Speaker 4: happening New Orleans or somebody had to lose in the
Speaker 4: rams okay, and it turned out it didn't happen.
Speaker 5: Last second field goal is that what it was? Yes,
Speaker 5: last second field goal?
Speaker 7: And I was there because we were had to do
Speaker 7: a story right on deadline.
Speaker 2: So if you guys would have just won the last game,
Speaker 2: they wouldn't it wouldn't have been the problem.
Speaker 7: If yeah, right, if they had beaten Atlanta and finished
Speaker 7: eight and eight, they.
Speaker 2: Were and Troy was hurt. Troy was hurt.
Speaker 6: They based that quarterback.
Speaker 5: And it was a rainy. It rained the whole game.
Speaker 5: Nobody wanted to play.
Speaker 7: What was the final score? They got beat like twenty
Speaker 7: six to six on them in the rain. I want
Speaker 7: to say maybe Dion returned something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the Bayes passed.
Speaker 5: I think it was a special teams twenty six to seven.
Speaker 6: Close twenty six.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the game was not close enough.
Speaker 5: No, no, it was, and it was in the old
Speaker 5: field Atlanta Fulton County Stadium.
Speaker 8: No.
Speaker 2: So he played on the road and it was raining.
Speaker 5: And how about this.
Speaker 2: You play on the road with babe Lofelberg is your quarterback, right,
Speaker 2: and you need this game?
Speaker 7: And I remember one last kick in the ass on
Speaker 7: that season was when it was time we were done working,
Speaker 7: time to walk through the car, it just started pouring
Speaker 7: down rain again.
Speaker 5: Didn't have an unbroab.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you so if there's any consolation, Lawrence
Speaker 2: Taylor knew you guys were going to be good. He
Speaker 2: said after after we played your guys in in Texas Stadium.
Speaker 2: And I was that season. Yeah, that season. I was
Speaker 2: talking a lot of trash when I came back and
Speaker 2: we whooped him, and I felt really good about it.
Speaker 2: And I do recall LT looking very fatigued in front
Speaker 2: of his locker, and so I guess mark two and
Speaker 2: they must have been given it to him pretty well,
Speaker 2: because he said, man, those guys are going to be good.
Speaker 6: There was the second game of the season.
Speaker 4: It was twenty eight to seven good.
Speaker 2: He said, they're going to be good after that game,
Speaker 2: after that score.
Speaker 6: Played them again.
Speaker 4: It played the Cowboys again two weeks later and it
Speaker 4: was thirty one seventeen in the Meadowlands Giants.
Speaker 2: So the events for me was there, but at the
Speaker 2: same time there was that that that lingering statement by
Speaker 2: lt they're going to be good. Okay.
Speaker 6: So it's interesting as we.
Speaker 4: Fast forward to today that nineteen ninety season. What's the
Speaker 4: date today, November fourteenth. On November fourteenth of nineteen ninety,
Speaker 4: thirty four years ago, you know what, the Cowboys record
Speaker 4: was three and six, three and one, two, three four,
Speaker 4: five six, three and seven, Yeah, and then rattled off
Speaker 4: four straight wins to get to seven and seven and
Speaker 4: have a chance, and then lost at Philadelphia. Tro I
Speaker 4: got heard in the Philadelphia game two days before Christmas,
Speaker 4: and so now you're seven and eight and you're going
Speaker 4: to Atlanta with a backup quarterback.
Speaker 7: And they finished the Philadelphia game with a backup quarterback.
Speaker 4: So that was a year there were three and seven
Speaker 4: and four straight wins to get the five hundred.
Speaker 5: And eight and eight would have got you in the playoffs.
Speaker 4: This year, you're you're sitting here right now three and six, right,
Speaker 4: you got three games in eleven days, all right? By
Speaker 4: Thanksgiving night, Mickey, you can be six and six.
Speaker 2: With a back up.
Speaker 5: Don't have Choyigman with a backup quarterback.
Speaker 2: Don't have Choygman. What happened the.
Speaker 4: Last time at this backup quarterback replaced Dak Prescott the
Speaker 4: last time before this year he won four straight games.
Speaker 6: He won four straight.
Speaker 5: Games everybody but Philadelphia, and.
Speaker 6: So he's just going to reverse it this time. Lose
Speaker 6: to Philadelphia first, then win.
Speaker 7: Four to row actually when they when they were, and
Speaker 7: then you'll be above five hundred at three.
Speaker 5: And seven if I remember this correctly.
Speaker 7: The last game they lost, which made it seven, I
Speaker 7: think Emmett touched the ball about five or seven times, right,
Speaker 7: and after the game somebody asked Emmitt about it. And
Speaker 7: it's really hard to gain one hundred yards when you
Speaker 7: only get five carries?
Speaker 2: Why did they do that? To think?
Speaker 6: Now, which game was that?
Speaker 2: There was?
Speaker 5: The game before? Checked the game before the winning streak.
Speaker 4: Okay, so this was the San Francisco game, a twenty
Speaker 4: four to six loss at home against San Francisco.
Speaker 5: Shula was the offensive.
Speaker 2: Oh right, I forgot about.
Speaker 4: All right, And in that game, what do Emmett had
Speaker 4: six carries for forty yards.
Speaker 2: Thank you, damn nice average man. You gotta run the
Speaker 2: guy more Manow.
Speaker 4: Had five carries for thirty three yards the Niners.
Speaker 5: So here's the story.
Speaker 7: So Jimmy had just It was the Tuesday after the
Speaker 7: game and Jimmy finished his press conference in the team
Speaker 7: meeting room and I was standing out in the hallway
Speaker 7: and he came walking out. It was me and Skip
Speaker 7: by the way, Skip Bayless, and I said something to him.
Speaker 7: I said, it wasn't real happy with six carries, right,
Speaker 7: And he goes, yeah, we're gonna have to have a
Speaker 7: talk about that. He needs to run the football. I
Speaker 7: think the next game they beat the Rams.
Speaker 4: They did twenty four to twenty one.
Speaker 5: He had more. I think he had more receptions maybe
Speaker 5: than carries.
Speaker 4: Or he had more receiving yards. Yeah, he had four
Speaker 4: catches for one hundred and seventeen yards. He had twenty
Speaker 4: one rushes for fifty four yards.
Speaker 2: Not a gun. Does that sound like that is gonna
Speaker 2: have gonna break the all time rushing record. Come on, man,
Speaker 2: do you think about how he started?
Speaker 5: Jimmy said, he I think I need to talk to
Speaker 5: Mike about that. We need to run them.
Speaker 2: Okay, Sula was holding up his greatness, man, he was
Speaker 2: holding he was always holding it hostage. That's crazy because
Speaker 2: at that point Emmitt is is not even important at
Speaker 2: all in the game plan.
Speaker 5: No, well not in that previous game.
Speaker 2: All right, Ricky Downald sorry, Donald had more more carries than.
Speaker 6: The Okay, so then uh all right.
Speaker 4: The following week, twenty three carries, one hundred and thirty
Speaker 4: two yards and two touchdowns, and the.
Speaker 2: Get it, I guess that was.
Speaker 6: That was against Washington.
Speaker 2: Listen conversations.
Speaker 4: We're two straight wins, now, Okay, there's two straight wins.
Speaker 4: Next week, you're playing New Orleans at home. Okay, that
Speaker 4: was a Thanksgiving game, the Washington game. Then you get
Speaker 4: your ten days rest, you get New Orleans at home,
Speaker 4: and Emmett went for carries eighty five yards and a touchdown.
Speaker 4: And now we're starting to get that. I remember if
Speaker 4: you emmittt got twenty carries and again Cowboys win, and.
Speaker 7: Everybody suggested, why don't you just call twenty right play
Speaker 7: next time?
Speaker 2: Get it out of the way.
Speaker 4: After a December bye week, then a well rested Emmett
Speaker 4: the following week against Phoenix. Yes, the Cardinals were called
Speaker 4: the Phoenix Cardinals. Then twenty four carries, twenty four carries,
Speaker 4: one hundred and three yards and four touchdowns and Emmett
Speaker 4: is born. Tommy Age then got eleven carries for forty
Speaker 4: eight yards and that same forty one to ten win.
Speaker 2: And that's that's that Jimmy Johnson style of Cowboys. And
Speaker 2: then right that's when it started.
Speaker 4: It's time to go to Philadelphia. And at Philadelphia, which
Speaker 4: was a seventeen to three loss, Troy Eightman threw one
Speaker 4: pass who was injured and he got hurt and it was.
Speaker 5: It was a shoulder.
Speaker 6: Fourteen carries sixty one.
Speaker 2: Yards and that they were waiting they I'm sure that
Speaker 2: was eight men in the box after that, uh huh yeah,
Speaker 2: it was uh.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean it was a ten to three game
Speaker 4: into the fourth quarter and then Eric Allen had a
Speaker 4: pick six.
Speaker 5: Oops.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, those that was the beginning of imm It's parade.
Speaker 4: And then the Atlanta game him at sixteen carries thirty
Speaker 4: four yards.
Speaker 6: It was mu still loaded up.
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody there was certain teams that that
Speaker 2: just could play the run. Well, just so happened Philadelphi
Speaker 2: and the Giants. We were just good at it. You know.
Speaker 7: The other thing I remember about that Super Bowl is
Speaker 7: we were filing Jimmy around everywhere he went because they
Speaker 7: were looking for a new offensive coordinator and all these
Speaker 7: names were coming up, and they had gone through like
Speaker 7: three different guys and they didn't get the job or
Speaker 7: somebody couldn't take the interview. And I think it finally
Speaker 7: got to Thursday, and myself and whoever was covering for
Speaker 7: the other two papers, we were at Jimmy's hotel waiting
Speaker 7: for him. He comes down to the elevator, right, and
Speaker 7: he sees us, and he goes, Okay, look, he goes,
Speaker 7: we are not hiring an offensive coordinator this week.
Speaker 5: Go and enjoy the Super Bowl. And we believed him
Speaker 5: and we did.
Speaker 7: And and then it was a week or so later
Speaker 7: they announced some guy named Norvil turn the.
Speaker 6: Rams.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was like, are you kidding me?
Speaker 4: Who's this guy, who, by the way, is now back
Speaker 4: with the Raiders senior advisor.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw that.
Speaker 2: You know, back in the day, the Rams had a
Speaker 2: lot of talent. We're running through that team, and I mean,
Speaker 2: as far as management is concerned.
Speaker 7: Well, we probably should recognize John Robinson who passed a.
Speaker 4: J nine.
Speaker 2: Oh John Well, I mean, when you think about it,
Speaker 2: take Young is up for contributor and the Rams was
Speaker 2: a team that he played.
Speaker 7: And the funny thing about that hiring is the Ernie
Speaker 7: Zampezi spoke up for saying this guy's ready, right, And
Speaker 7: then when Norv left, they hired Ernie to be the
Speaker 7: offensive coordinator of the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 5: And now you know the rest of the story.
Speaker 4: So North Turner would have been thirty eight years old
Speaker 4: then when he was hired by the Cowboys.
Speaker 5: And his career took off. After a couple of years
Speaker 5: with the Cowboys. He's the head coach of the Washington
Speaker 5: at that time.
Speaker 4: Ritz skis all right, now you know the rest of
Speaker 4: the story. Get back with more mix shots at a moment.
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Speaker 6: So when does that get started?
Speaker 5: Friday night?
Speaker 2: Friday night?
Speaker 7: I know it's Friday night, but tennight thing the Undercrest
Speaker 7: starts at seven.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right. They do push them back. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the other costs.
Speaker 7: I understand they've already sold fifty thousand tickets. Mm hmm,
Speaker 7: they're expecting seventy and Mike Tyson says, I'm winning.
Speaker 5: So did you go to the press conference?
Speaker 2: I did not go.
Speaker 5: Okay, sending somebody.
Speaker 4: I actually a news covered it, really news story.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, Tyson, Tyson, he's too old man. This guy
Speaker 2: gonna get hurt.
Speaker 7: It's it's somewhat surprising day sanctioned the fight. It was
Speaker 7: going to be a I was reading the story today.
Speaker 7: It was going to be an exhibition fight, and then
Speaker 7: they got it sanctioned.
Speaker 6: Well, he's fifty eight years old. I was going to know.
Speaker 2: I no, I mean, I know he's hard of it,
Speaker 2: but god.
Speaker 5: Dude, he may need a hard head.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure Jake Paul's entire plan would be just
Speaker 2: stay away from him for like three rounds and get him.
Speaker 7: Tired because they were going to do an exhibition to
Speaker 7: two minute rounds and fourteen ounce gloves, which we used
Speaker 7: to mess around in college with sixteen ounce gloves. The
Speaker 7: sixteen ounce ones hurt if you got hit in the head,
Speaker 7: even though they look like pillows.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, they still had more weight, Yeah, more masks, and.
Speaker 4: You're gonna sell you why you had sixteen gloves on.
Speaker 4: So it was this like a fight night, like a
Speaker 4: sgap fight night in college that you were part of.
Speaker 7: Actually, the first time we a friend of mine, his
Speaker 7: dad was into boxing, and he had sixteen ounce gloves.
Speaker 7: So we moved the beds around and we had a ring,
Speaker 7: and we were supposed to not hit in the head, right, No,
Speaker 7: no hit in the head, no sixteen ounce gloves.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty well, my.
Speaker 7: Dear friend, all these years later hit me in the
Speaker 7: head right, and I just reacted and hit him right
Speaker 7: in the nose.
Speaker 2: And bloods and then uh little Italian guys.
Speaker 7: And then after that I had taken a taking a
Speaker 7: self defense class and part of the self defense class
Speaker 7: was boxing, and we use.
Speaker 5: Sixteen ounce gloves. Ye, and some guy the round was
Speaker 5: over and I let up and he hit me in
Speaker 5: the head. But we were in like a three It
Speaker 5: was like a wrestling room with padded walls three sides.
Speaker 7: Not only do you hit me in the head, but
Speaker 7: my head hit the wall right and the guy ruddering
Speaker 7: it goes okay. I go yeah, just like that. He goes, okay,
Speaker 7: that's this is over.
Speaker 2: I think, So, how did.
Speaker 4: You prepare to wear those sixteen ounce gloves? What do
Speaker 4: you mean, yeah, prepared for your fight? Well, you just
Speaker 4: put him on maybe sixteen ounce curls.
Speaker 7: Oh wow, you guys he had to set that up. Okay,
Speaker 7: So lifty moving on lift is not practicing.
Speaker 2: What's one with lift? You man would lift?
Speaker 4: He was.
Speaker 5: On the resistance chords. Lewis is not practicing. They said, mate,
Speaker 5: well what what what did?
Speaker 2: They didn't lower body? Okay, but he'll be okay.
Speaker 5: Geyton looks like he is. Tyler Smith was supposed to
Speaker 5: be back.
Speaker 7: I said that, and uh, McCarthy said that Mingo should
Speaker 7: be available this week.
Speaker 5: I would imagine they get him out there as well.
Speaker 4: Why not like it when he brought up unsolicited. He
Speaker 4: brought up Mingo on the taping of the Coaches Show.
Speaker 4: We're talking about having the extra day this week and
Speaker 4: how that helps. And one of the things he said
Speaker 4: it was getting getting Mingo involved out there, and.
Speaker 2: Do you know what he can do necessarily, how they're
Speaker 2: going to use him? Is he going to be I said?
Speaker 7: He said, he's He said he's an inside outside guy.
Speaker 7: Really that he could do both, big guy like that. Yeah,
Speaker 7: that's what he said. And he said he shows his
Speaker 7: vertical how did.
Speaker 5: He put it, vertical speeds, vertical juice.
Speaker 7: That's what my notes say, So he can build juice
Speaker 7: like so, Mike, Mike is colorful.
Speaker 5: Yes about that one.
Speaker 4: I want to say it was a four four five
Speaker 4: kind of like Nico Kong No.
Speaker 2: That's nice. Yeah, that size, and it depends on how
Speaker 2: you use it game speed and does it come at
Speaker 2: the beginning of your at the top of your route.
Speaker 2: You know, if a guy gets on you fast, those
Speaker 2: are the ones that you really worry about more than
Speaker 2: those that build up speed and get by you down
Speaker 2: the field. But they if they're come that you're fast,
Speaker 2: their first segment of their route is quick. Those are
Speaker 2: the ones that you have issues with.
Speaker 7: And if you want a little humor to finish. When
Speaker 7: we did the walk off, which is off the record, right,
Speaker 7: but since It was pretty funny. Edward was going to
Speaker 7: ask about left tackle because remember they said, he said
Speaker 7: yesterday community it was going to be competition, you know,
Speaker 7: with Richard's having played well awesome and Tyler Giton now
Speaker 7: ready to.
Speaker 5: Ed phrased the question this way, do you.
Speaker 7: Know what you're doing? It left tackle goes yes, he
Speaker 7: goes yeah. I didn't reword that correctly, didn't.
Speaker 5: It was pretty funny.
Speaker 6: What's the answer?
Speaker 5: Something funny? Yet something else? We didn't get an answer.
Speaker 5: It was it was yes. They said yesterday there was
Speaker 5: going to be competition.
Speaker 7: So I don't know how much competition you can have
Speaker 7: in these practices, but.
Speaker 5: You know as today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so boy, God has broken. That's it, all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, that's the festival is gone.
Speaker 5: Something something got a problem, all.
Speaker 2: Kind of stuff going on. Can we get some some
Speaker 2: disinfected off in there please? Right, Yeah, but it's still
Speaker 2: the cloud. That was like a cloud. There is here, no, no,
Speaker 2: he needed both hands to cover his face. We did
Speaker 2: not want him to use the other hand. He needs
Speaker 2: a third hand for that. Oh okay, Well let's and
Speaker 2: that blows.
Speaker 6: Damn boy ended with a blast.
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