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Speaker 1: of gathering. Like we always talk about, gathering, the investigate
Speaker 1: and then we educate. I always like to say that,
Speaker 1: I know because one of my favorite things to do.
Speaker 1: I know, So we do. Welcome everybody in forty eight
Speaker 1: days until we get to talk about all this stuff
Speaker 1: for real. And just when you think you have time
Speaker 1: to look at a guy or two more, you really
Speaker 1: don't have time to look. We got Pro days going
Speaker 1: in full swing right now. Clemson, Alabama, Ohio State all
Speaker 1: completed this week, scouts all over the country feels I mean,
Speaker 1: it still feels like we've just got back from Indy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, like three or four of the biggest Pro
Speaker 1: days of the year already happened or in Ohio States.
Speaker 1: Case is happening right now. That is the truth. So
Speaker 1: with all that I do welcome Dane Brugler from CBS
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Speaker 1: war room guy in all rights. David Hellman of Dallas
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Speaker 1: be a scout. I'm doing my best, doing his best. Garrison,
Speaker 1: executive producer of the show. Today, He's going to handle
Speaker 1: our calls that we're going to take later in the
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Speaker 1: Once again, very grateful to have the new camera, angles,
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Speaker 1: this show better and more enjoyable for the fans. We
Speaker 1: encourage the fans to participate. We're gonna have Twitter on
Speaker 1: the twenty today and then I also want to take
Speaker 1: some of your calls. We have free agency as as
Speaker 1: we've talked about, or as everybody knows going through right now.
Speaker 1: Might jump into that a little bit today, but first
Speaker 1: I want to get into these pro days. And and
Speaker 1: Dane and Dave your impressions. We were watching Ohio State
Speaker 1: a little bit today. Alabama was yesterday Clemson talk about really,
Speaker 1: what are these scouts in the final final stretch? What
Speaker 1: are the scouts trying to get out of all these
Speaker 1: pro days? I think, first off, it's interesting to see
Speaker 1: which teams are present at the pro days and who
Speaker 1: do they send. For example, Louisville had their pro Day,
Speaker 1: what teams were there? Did they send their defensive line coach?
Speaker 1: Did they just send a scout? And that part's interesting.
Speaker 1: They kind of trying to see if these teams would
Speaker 1: give a tell about who they're looking at. But it's
Speaker 1: pro day like Ohio State, you know, good luck because
Speaker 1: with the amount of prospects they have their point. It
Speaker 1: was basically a marathon today. Over there in Columbus Um
Speaker 1: they have a notorious fast track so downhill runners exactly,
Speaker 1: and Braxton Miller ran a four three. All of these
Speaker 1: scouts add probably a tenth of a second, sure, maybe
Speaker 1: a little bit more to these times. So I want
Speaker 1: to get too excited. I think what we're seeing with
Speaker 1: these pro day so far, a lot of the top
Speaker 1: prospects are resting on their times from the combine and
Speaker 1: they're just doing positional workout. And that's Dave one of
Speaker 1: the reasons why these guys do work out at the combine.
Speaker 1: If you get a guy that can fly a little
Speaker 1: bit or has a good workout, you know, maybe hey,
Speaker 1: all I have to do is show up and do
Speaker 1: some positional drills for these coaches. Yeah, it kind of
Speaker 1: reminds me of Blackjack, Like, you know, you get a
Speaker 1: seventeen or eighteen, You're like, no, I'm good. No, maybe
Speaker 1: hit like a fifteen. You're like, all right, I'll go,
Speaker 1: I'll run it pro day. Braxton Miller ran today. It's
Speaker 1: kind of we we made a big deal about how
Speaker 1: disappointing it was combine. He got he got under four
Speaker 1: four today, Right, it is a fast track. But still,
Speaker 1: I mean that that's impressive. And on the opposite side
Speaker 1: of things, Derrick Henry had a great combine and pretty
Speaker 1: much opted out of everything Atabama's on Wednesday, But he
Speaker 1: dropped my pen. He did he did pass catching drills
Speaker 1: right at Alabama just to kind of give people a
Speaker 1: look at that. Yeah, I think it's really and I
Speaker 1: think Dane makes a great point. This is an opportunity
Speaker 1: for these teams to send coaches and there maybe not
Speaker 1: so much the scouts. Scouts go in there and collect
Speaker 1: the numbers. That's really the most important thing. In fact,
Speaker 1: you do have a player too that didn't have a
Speaker 1: good time. Maybe you want to get a better time.
Speaker 1: Maybe a guy you felt like was going to do
Speaker 1: more reps on the bench. It looked like Bosa today
Speaker 1: improved his numbers. You know, maybe not as strict the
Speaker 1: scouts are. They pay attention, but at the combine, I
Speaker 1: mean it's a lock in, you know, I mean it's
Speaker 1: it's maybe at the workout you get a little bit
Speaker 1: of a bounce, a little bit of it, you know,
Speaker 1: you get a few more reps. So those numbers always improved.
Speaker 1: But scouts they're getting the numbers. Teams will send the coaches.
Speaker 1: Like you say, now, earlier in the week, Noah Spence
Speaker 1: didn't have many people going to work out or go
Speaker 1: to his workout, And I think there's a reason for that.
Speaker 1: Noah Spence did everything at the combine. There's some teams
Speaker 1: that will not send scouts and coaches if they felt
Speaker 1: like that everybody that they were satisfied with the workout. Again,
Speaker 1: the advantage of working So don't read into that too
Speaker 1: much that people are thinking any less of Noah Spence. Right, Hey,
Speaker 1: if the scouts feel like and there's a determination. We
Speaker 1: used to have meetings about this. We used to talk about, Okay,
Speaker 1: how do we feel about this guy? Do we feel
Speaker 1: player X? We feel good? Yes, we don't need to
Speaker 1: do anything with him. So that's something don't don't always
Speaker 1: read into that. And Spence is the type of dude
Speaker 1: where the team likes him. Yes, they're going to bring
Speaker 1: him in for a visit one of the thirties right, right.
Speaker 1: And so because he's the type of guy that you
Speaker 1: want to get to know, you want to sit him down,
Speaker 1: talk with him. Yes, you want to see him work out,
Speaker 1: but you want to get to know him as a person. Right.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I would not read into that too much
Speaker 1: at all. Yeah. I think it's good though when they
Speaker 1: like you say, you have an Ohio State Day and
Speaker 1: you have one hundred and thirty NFL coaches scouts working
Speaker 1: out there. I think that's a good thing. And Ohio
Speaker 1: State does a great job with the workouts. So there's
Speaker 1: a lot of teams. You know, Florida State has always
Speaker 1: traditionally done a good job. You know, Alabama has had
Speaker 1: a nice pro day, but spread all about the spread.
Speaker 1: Yeah that scouts love the spread anything free. You know,
Speaker 1: count me in on that. Yeah, gave me three. But
Speaker 1: you know, I just feel like this is the kind
Speaker 1: of the final little piece of the puzzle. We've got
Speaker 1: the combine, we've got the medicals, we're getting the final numbers.
Speaker 1: Now we're gonna start building these draft boards and you know,
Speaker 1: and you're getting that all together, and that's a good thing.
Speaker 1: I want to get into some good news. If you're
Speaker 1: a Miles Jack fan, you know, March fifteenth, we talk
Speaker 1: about pro days. Miles Jack did not work out at
Speaker 1: the combine, took the opportunity to stand up in front
Speaker 1: of all of us talk about his plan. He's been
Speaker 1: he's been looking at March fifteenth as that day he
Speaker 1: got clearance. Looked like he got clearance for contact drills
Speaker 1: from the UCLA doctors. Now, though, it's about going out
Speaker 1: and working out. What do you think a kind of day,
Speaker 1: What do you think we might see from Miles Jack?
Speaker 1: It's a projection, right maybe if sometimes Tuesday, yeah, yeah, Tuesday,
Speaker 1: March fifteenth. Where what do you think you're gonna see
Speaker 1: from Miles Jack's crossing my fingers that everything goes well.
Speaker 1: First and foremost, you want to see him be healthy.
Speaker 1: You want to see him go out there and you know,
Speaker 1: give it everything he has and look one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest worry right now. There were
Speaker 1: some teams that came away from the combine with question
Speaker 1: marks about the knee, about the name. Its just a
Speaker 1: long term stability as their cartilage issues you have to
Speaker 1: worry about long term. But so for Jack, all he
Speaker 1: can do is go to the Pro day and be
Speaker 1: the athletic freak dad he is put up these numbers
Speaker 1: and then go to the medical rechecks in April and
Speaker 1: hopefully gets two thumbs up. And if all that happens,
Speaker 1: Miles Jack is a top ten pick that we've been
Speaker 1: talking about that the tape shows. But there's a lot
Speaker 1: of steps to this process, a few more extra steps
Speaker 1: for him than some of these other players. Yeah day
Speaker 1: if you know in Dane's right about Miles Jack. Though,
Speaker 1: as far as a player is talking to people around here,
Speaker 1: even though that they traffed Rolando, McClain still getting a
Speaker 1: little bit of a vibe that Miles Jack could be
Speaker 1: in play for a Dallas set four. We got a
Speaker 1: lot of questions when Rolando signed on Wednesday that that
Speaker 1: I guess Jack's off the boarder. I don't get that
Speaker 1: at all. I'll get that at all either. I mean
Speaker 1: it's the you draft a quarterback to sit behind Tony Romo.
Speaker 1: I mean that's I mean, you're talking about a guy
Speaker 1: who you would expect to be the best linebacker in
Speaker 1: your defense for the next at least five, if not
Speaker 1: hopefully eight to twelve years. So as much as you
Speaker 1: hate to say Shaun Lee, you hope he plays sixteen years, Absolutely,
Speaker 1: and just absolutely, you're taking the best player at four
Speaker 1: for the long term, not just for Tilda. And then
Speaker 1: I mean, Sean Lee gets hurt next year, he can
Speaker 1: play Will Rolando McClain, he can play Mike. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: can play Sam. He can play safety probably. I mean, uh,
Speaker 1: and Rolando's on a one year deal. I don't care
Speaker 1: at all that that Jack might have to have a
Speaker 1: limited or a different role as a rookie. I don't
Speaker 1: think that would stop them at all. Okay, I promise
Speaker 1: people on Twitter that I wouldn't we wouldn't just focus
Speaker 1: on the ones. But I want to ask you guys
Speaker 1: some more questions about some of these guys. We'll play
Speaker 1: a game a little bit later. Well, it's not a game,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's an exercise. We'll get into
Speaker 1: the Yeah, we'll get into the obscure. Yeah, I want
Speaker 1: to We're gonna we're gonna have some fun with uh.
Speaker 1: I call this tell me more. And this is where
Speaker 1: Dave has got a list of guys and it's just
Speaker 1: not first round guys, it's we we've done this before.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a first round guy on it.
Speaker 1: Dane and I are going to go through and Dave
Speaker 1: is gonna fire some names, and again I call this,
Speaker 1: tell me more, and we'll learn a little bit more
Speaker 1: about these guys are further down the board. But I
Speaker 1: do I do want to ask you though about there's
Speaker 1: a lot of people out there that are lining up
Speaker 1: with the Ezekiel Elliott camp as far as and I
Speaker 1: don't know who deserves more credit for that, Lewis Riddick
Speaker 1: or us, Like, well, it's we're Lewis Riddick put it
Speaker 1: out there. We we we've talked about it much more.
Speaker 1: But I will say this though, and I wanted to
Speaker 1: ask the question because of Joey Bosa and what we
Speaker 1: saw a little bit today on the NFL Network of
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa, Dane, We've all done the tape on Joey Bosa.
Speaker 1: I have my opinion on Joey Bosa. He has this opinion.
Speaker 1: But I want to ask you guys, though, with the
Speaker 1: way that free agency is falling, and I'll focus on
Speaker 1: the Cowboys here right now, with the way the free
Speaker 1: agency's focusing or falling for the Cowboys, is Joey Bosa though,
Speaker 1: the lock pick for this football team if he's available.
Speaker 1: It's hard to say, how can you? You can't say
Speaker 1: a lot, you can't use the word lock. But I
Speaker 1: think he's on the shortlist obviously. Yeah, And I think,
Speaker 1: but has that changed for you guys in any I
Speaker 1: would go as far as I would I would. I've
Speaker 1: been saying at least for a month that I think
Speaker 1: Bosa is one of about three guys that looks incredibly likely,
Speaker 1: and these first three days of free agency have done
Speaker 1: nothing to change, no change. I probably think even stronger now.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you put a gun to my head
Speaker 1: and said I had to predict to their pick would be,
Speaker 1: I would say Bosa. Yeah, Yeah, And that's kind of
Speaker 1: what I've been saying too. Yeah a while. I've been
Speaker 1: saying if he's still on the board of four, I
Speaker 1: don't think he's on the board of five. He answers
Speaker 1: a need. I think he's one of the top four
Speaker 1: players in this draft. I think the only thing that
Speaker 1: would not make Bosa a Dallas Cowboy is if Jalen
Speaker 1: Ramsey's there. I think that creates some discussion about who's
Speaker 1: the better player, which direction do they go. But besides
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, I'm not even sure they take a Miles
Speaker 1: Jack over Joey Bosa. So and I love Zeke m
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be outstanding. I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: be offensive Rookie of the Year next year, but I
Speaker 1: don't think that this team takes him at four. So
Speaker 1: you're looking at Bosa and look at free agency. Look
Speaker 1: at how much money these free agent pass rushers are getting.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I mean, all thirty two teams are looking
Speaker 1: for more pass rush you have a chance to get
Speaker 1: And is he an elite pass rusher? No? No, You've
Speaker 1: been fair about that, right, And people get turning up
Speaker 1: on that. It's a top five and I'm guilty. I'm
Speaker 1: guilty of kind of hammering the fact that I see
Speaker 1: a very good player. I don't see a great player,
Speaker 1: and that's in there, and there's nothing wrong with that assessment,
Speaker 1: because you know, I think the goal is to get
Speaker 1: some pretty good football players. And I think people see
Speaker 1: a top five pick and they want, I want an
Speaker 1: elite future Hall of Famer. That's just not realistic, especially
Speaker 1: in this draft class. I think Laramy Tunsel it could
Speaker 1: be classified as maybe an elite type of player. Jalen
Speaker 1: Ramsey's on that cusp, but there aren't many of those
Speaker 1: types of guys in this draft. And I think Joey
Speaker 1: Bosa is a very good player, and you know what
Speaker 1: you're getting with them, I really think. I mean, again,
Speaker 1: it's hard to predict, but even if Ramsey's there, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if Bosa's the pick. And you consider
Speaker 1: you just spent a first round pick on on Byron Jones,
Speaker 1: who can play to two spots in the secondary. You
Speaker 1: have another pick with which to draft a defensive back
Speaker 1: or I mean, many more picks, but thirty four is
Speaker 1: the one I'm talking about, and I just think that
Speaker 1: up well a the obvious need and then be you don't,
Speaker 1: I mean, the upside is incredible. I mean, if Joey
Speaker 1: Bosa does turn into I could be dead wrong about
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa. And you know I'll be the first to
Speaker 1: admit it that I'm wrong about him if he turns
Speaker 1: out to be the an elite type of a player,
Speaker 1: a rusher and all that, you know what I Hey,
Speaker 1: I will stand in here and say all day, hey,
Speaker 1: I missed the guy. But I mean I think that
Speaker 1: I just look at the way it shakes out. You know,
Speaker 1: you look at the Cowboys and what they've done. They've
Speaker 1: you know, visited with Nolan Carroll here. You know, they're
Speaker 1: looking at a corner. See, but there's and there's not
Speaker 1: and I and I'm not gonna put words in your
Speaker 1: mouth gain other than Bosa though. As far as pass
Speaker 1: rush guys, you know how many guys are you really
Speaker 1: talking about? I mean, we've we've talked about Spence, you know,
Speaker 1: we've talked about but we've talked about loss in a
Speaker 1: little bits. It's a good player, yes, you know, that's
Speaker 1: Austin from Clemson Spence. I think I like him as
Speaker 1: a pass rusher, but I think people will get so
Speaker 1: or they focus on that he's a good pass rusher,
Speaker 1: but they don't they forget the run part that he's
Speaker 1: not a very good run to rid. Once blockers get
Speaker 1: their hands on him, he's shut down most of the time. Sure,
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of questions with no not even
Speaker 1: touched the off field stuff. I'm terrified by the thought
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys youngest and most talented pass rushers both
Speaker 1: being three four linebacker types, which I mean, like I
Speaker 1: thought last year that was Randy Gregory's best fit, and
Speaker 1: I think that's no offense's best fit too. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I think that's fair assessment. The biggest thing with Bosa,
Speaker 1: and it's I'm sure it's always been this way, but
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of discovering it now, is how much
Speaker 1: people are hung up on sacks. The sack number, right,
Speaker 1: it goes so much deeper than that for these pass rushers.
Speaker 1: If you're able to put pressure on the on the pocket,
Speaker 1: if you're able to force the offense to bring an
Speaker 1: extra tight end, an extra back to help chip you,
Speaker 1: if you have if they have to game plan against
Speaker 1: you as a pass rusher, you're doing your job even
Speaker 1: if you don't get to the quarterback and finish the sack.
Speaker 1: So I think we get so hung up or fans
Speaker 1: get so hung up on the sack you know it
Speaker 1: is guilty. Is he a double edges act? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: don't mean that's what gets That's what gets guys paid, though.
Speaker 1: I mean I get why people focus on it, but
Speaker 1: it's all right, say Joey, they pay Olivier Vernon and
Speaker 1: he he's a seven and a half guy exactly. And
Speaker 1: I mean, say, you know, I do you tell me
Speaker 1: that Joey Bosa has seven sacks as a rookie. That
Speaker 1: tells me nothing. That tells me got to the and
Speaker 1: he tackled the quarterback seven times, right, That doesn't tell
Speaker 1: me how he was there? You know the rest of
Speaker 1: the time that doesn't play against the run, right, I
Speaker 1: mean he plays, He'll play a couple hundred snaps, and
Speaker 1: seven sacks does not telling me the whole story. I
Speaker 1: mean it sacks. It's it's great you want him to
Speaker 1: have the double digit sack numbers fifteen seventeen, but there's
Speaker 1: so much more that goes to a pass rusher than
Speaker 1: just I think the thing that bothers me the most
Speaker 1: is that at four you're just looking for that dynamic guy.
Speaker 1: Of course you are, Yeah, you know you Okay, there's
Speaker 1: a reason why you got the fourth pick. You're not
Speaker 1: very good, sure, so go get somebody that can help
Speaker 1: you not be four and twelve anymore. And I and
Speaker 1: I think and that, I mean, the narratives are hilarious
Speaker 1: because it's gone from like, well, for I mean, back
Speaker 1: in January, was like Bosa's a beast. Now it's you know, well,
Speaker 1: Bosa might not be special. Now it's like, good Bosa
Speaker 1: away from me. I wouldn't touch him with the ten football.
Speaker 1: Whereas when you think about it, I mean, and you know,
Speaker 1: I I'm not in love with Joey Bosa. I'm the
Speaker 1: captain of the Zeke bandwagon. Blah blah blah. But you
Speaker 1: bring in Joey Bosa, and I I mean thinking specifically
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys, you know, and I know people are
Speaker 1: disappointed that they didn't spend a boatload of money in
Speaker 1: the beginning of free agency. But maybe you bring back
Speaker 1: Jack Crawford, you get, I mean, they just brought in
Speaker 1: Cedric Thornton. They're not done signing, They're not done signing people.
Speaker 1: They're not going to be names that really move the needle.
Speaker 1: But maybe you bring in another Jack Crawford type. Of journeyman,
Speaker 1: serviceable rotational defensive end. You draft Joey Bosa, you get
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory back, and all of a sudden, you've got it.
Speaker 1: It's not amazing, but you can work with that. And
Speaker 1: I do think Joey Bosa would be a reliable part
Speaker 1: of that rotation as a Oh, there's no doubt about that.
Speaker 1: Which and yeah, maybe he doesn't have ten sacks as
Speaker 1: a rookie, but to Dane's point, which he's made countless
Speaker 1: time has he has, Joey Bosa brings more to the
Speaker 1: table than just being able to get sacks, which I mean,
Speaker 1: you get caught up in these narratives and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden you're telling yourself, you know the world's gonna
Speaker 1: end if the Cowboys picked Joey Bosa. Really, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that's ridiculous. That's a little hyperball, like, yeah, the
Speaker 1: Cowboys will be a better team with Joey Bosa. I
Speaker 1: agree with go. I mean, you talk about Jalen Ramsey.
Speaker 1: You know, so I was gonna ask you two about
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, and you know I that would be at
Speaker 1: least let me ask you another scenario. Then really just
Speaker 1: kind of popped in my head, what if Cleveland somehow
Speaker 1: doesn't take a quarterback? Possible? What if Cleveland doesn't take
Speaker 1: a quarterback Kaepernicks and Brown by the end of the weekend,
Speaker 1: just well, they don't take a quarterback. Yeah, you're looking
Speaker 1: at this team and I know, I know, I know
Speaker 1: the Brown's like two of the guys, sure, and I
Speaker 1: need to figure out which two of the guy two
Speaker 1: of the three they really like. I know that for
Speaker 1: a fact. Okay, and so let me but we got
Speaker 1: to figure out what if? What if? What if the
Speaker 1: quarterback does come and play at four and it is
Speaker 1: and it is Bosa and a quarterback I really think,
Speaker 1: but the quarterback has the higher grade. If you're asking
Speaker 1: me for the most realistic options, I've been saying, it's
Speaker 1: Bosa Ramsey. And then if the quarterback they like, if
Speaker 1: the quarterback they liked the most is there, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be surprised if that's the pick. I think those are
Speaker 1: the three really realistic options. I'd still be surprised if
Speaker 1: there's a quarterback at four. I mean, I when you're
Speaker 1: looking at their quarterback, their quarterback, what if you're saying
Speaker 1: you'd be surprised with the Cowboys picked one, or if
Speaker 1: the Browns the Cowboys pick Okay, okay, I mean I
Speaker 1: just when you're looking at the best four players in
Speaker 1: this draft, I don't know how you can make an
Speaker 1: argument that the quarterback is one of them. This team
Speaker 1: has said they'll take a franchise quarterback if he's there.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to see a franchise quarterback.
Speaker 1: And there give you a scenario, a scenario that if
Speaker 1: somebody's available, for somebody to come up and get because
Speaker 1: everybody wants to trade back. Now everybody's like they're not said,
Speaker 1: you know, everybody's going to get a little skittish on
Speaker 1: me right now. If Goff is there at four, I
Speaker 1: think that makes a world of sense, especially if San
Speaker 1: Francisco does actually trade Colin Kaepernick away and if if
Speaker 1: somehow I don't think it will happen, but if Laramie
Speaker 1: Tunsil falls to four, I could see, you know, kind
Speaker 1: of like I mean, I know they didn't trade up
Speaker 1: for him, but you know, Leonard Williams fell to the
Speaker 1: Jets last, and I mean number one players sitting there
Speaker 1: at for yeah, I mean maybe a team the Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers, you know, they're at nine, they're not going
Speaker 1: to trade up to one. Maybe they would trade up
Speaker 1: to four, something like that wouldn't surprise me. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you think it has to be a quarterback, or is it?
Speaker 1: I think that's the best chance. Best chance is always
Speaker 1: a quarterback, right, I mean, and I think especially in
Speaker 1: this draft class where as similar to last year, where
Speaker 1: I don't think there's that much separation between, you know,
Speaker 1: these tiers of players. So I don't think we're gonna
Speaker 1: see a big splash trades unless it has something to
Speaker 1: do with one of these quarterbacks. Let me ask you
Speaker 1: one more question then I got one for you. And okay,
Speaker 1: but the Eagles are now picking at eight. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: Now now, now as a Cowboy fan, what are you
Speaker 1: worried about the Eagles taking it eight? Zeke? I mean
Speaker 1: that's it makes a lot of sense for the Eagles
Speaker 1: written in the start, Yeah, exactly. And I think that
Speaker 1: now moving up to eight, it's a lot more realistic possibility.
Speaker 1: What about what about Treadwill? What do they take a
Speaker 1: wide receiver? It's possible. I just spent a first round
Speaker 1: pick on a receiver, so right, I mean, and I
Speaker 1: know that's not going to stop anybody. If that's their guy,
Speaker 1: that's their guy. But no, I you look at Doug
Speaker 1: Peterson at the new head coach in Philly. He likes balance,
Speaker 1: but he wants to run the ball. Sure, And if
Speaker 1: you can get a foundation piece like Zeke who can
Speaker 1: impact your team in a lot of ways. Um, they
Speaker 1: have some offensive line issues, ze can help with that,
Speaker 1: they have some quarterback issues. Ze can help with that.
Speaker 1: Zeke it can be the ultimate band aid for that offense.
Speaker 1: And so I think he's a very realistic possibility. If
Speaker 1: you asked me right now who Philly's taken at aid,
Speaker 1: I'll say Zeke. The only other option. How to scare
Speaker 1: you a little bit, don't it. The only other position
Speaker 1: that I could see them wanting above him would probably
Speaker 1: be offensive line. But I don't know who would be
Speaker 1: there that they would want over Zeke. Maybe the Michigan
Speaker 1: State kid. He's my second best Conklin all the way
Speaker 1: up at eight, Well, he's well, they took, they took,
Speaker 1: They've they've taken game. How about at nine? What the
Speaker 1: Giants did lat you know war Flowers, Yeah, didn't have
Speaker 1: a great rook here. Yeah, but I think Byron Maxwell's
Speaker 1: gone to corner's possibility. N Bar Graves like him, but
Speaker 1: they did. Yeah, I mean it's it's the Eagles have
Speaker 1: I And this is kind of the same thing I
Speaker 1: said about the Giants too. The Giants just invested a
Speaker 1: hun million guaranteed in their defense, so the same thing
Speaker 1: goes for them. It wouldn't surprise me to see them
Speaker 1: look offense. And the Eagles too. I mean, they do
Speaker 1: have corner issues, but they've invested seventy million in their safeties.
Speaker 1: They're they just to go. They just extended Vinny Curry,
Speaker 1: They're gonna extend Fletcher Cox. Yeah, so the offense is
Speaker 1: what needs help. And I'm telling you right now, get
Speaker 1: ready for Zeke to be on either the Giants or Eagles.
Speaker 1: It would not surprise me at all. So you don't
Speaker 1: see him getting out of this division. To you, it's
Speaker 1: just that's that's the stuff that happened. There's giant people,
Speaker 1: there's giant people. Still think they're gonna go defense again.
Speaker 1: I mean, anything's possible, but it isn't that Just what
Speaker 1: would happen though, is you know this beast running back
Speaker 1: false to the Cowboys divisional rivals right after DeMarco Murray incident. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: All Right, We're gonna start with a real draft nerd
Speaker 1: question from Brett Adolphus Washington is a name we know. Yes,
Speaker 1: we talk about him a lot as a d tackle. Yes,
Speaker 1: do you think he can play left end? I think
Speaker 1: he could. I I'm not sure that's his spot though.
Speaker 1: I think you want him on the interior. I kind
Speaker 1: of think of technique, not a yeah. How much flexibility
Speaker 1: are we talking here? I mean, so this is not
Speaker 1: something that y'all would consider basically as well. No, I
Speaker 1: like him better playing inside. I like him. I like
Speaker 1: him playing on that outside shoulder of that guard and
Speaker 1: firing up the field there with a nice swim movements,
Speaker 1: a little bit power and down you a little bend
Speaker 1: inside yea, and shorter quick or shorter paths of the ball.
Speaker 1: That's what he hit the nail on the head right there,
Speaker 1: All right, um, good oldig State player. Though Twitter handles
Speaker 1: twenty millions something I don't know. It's hard to read,
Speaker 1: but he basically wants to know. Give him a good
Speaker 1: idea of the round value, the depth of the cornerback class.
Speaker 1: If you're to assume Ramsey is not the pick at for,
Speaker 1: where are you looking at good value for cornerbacks in
Speaker 1: this draft? I could start. I could start myself, really
Speaker 1: like in the third round. You start, you know, the
Speaker 1: guy's like Howard and and to me, uh maybe even
Speaker 1: Will Jackson's more probably like a two kind of thing.
Speaker 1: But I'm kind of looking at Aunty Brown was a
Speaker 1: guy I really liked to like Howard Redman, the kid
Speaker 1: from Mississippi State. I have in the third round. I
Speaker 1: think the medical stuff's gonna check out on him. We'll
Speaker 1: have to see how that goes. But yeah, depending on
Speaker 1: Ryan Smith is a name I know a lot of
Speaker 1: people have. Right there, I think you're central. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: I think you can look at every round and pick
Speaker 1: out a guy that could be there. Um, and you
Speaker 1: look at the second round if William Jackson's there, yeah,
Speaker 1: third roun apple Eli Apple, Yeah, second third round? What
Speaker 1: would already burns? Already burn Miami. I think there's a
Speaker 1: lot of potential there. So I think you miss corner draft.
Speaker 1: You can go round by round and there's a few
Speaker 1: guys that would make some sense. Where are you going
Speaker 1: to play at Mills the LSU? You can play at
Speaker 1: safe here at corner corner Corner, Okay. I don't like him, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I I just wanted to make sure because I got
Speaker 1: him as as a corner as well. Arnaldo wants your
Speaker 1: thoughts on Brandon Dowdy from Western Kentucky. The production was
Speaker 1: outstanding what he did the last few years of Western Kentucky. Um.
Speaker 1: I worry about his field vision. Sometimes it is a quarterback,
Speaker 1: by the way, right. Sometimes it takes aim a little
Speaker 1: too long to go from one to two to three,
Speaker 1: you know, decipher what he sees. Um. He really thrived
Speaker 1: in that spread scheme. Uh, you know, let him kind
Speaker 1: of see the entire field. Give him some time, but
Speaker 1: things are sped up. We saw it against LSU we
Speaker 1: did um. He really struggled, So I worry about that
Speaker 1: part of his transit. He played it. It's a defense
Speaker 1: had had pace right. You could see a little bit
Speaker 1: of that kind of that indecision with him. So I
Speaker 1: think Dane's got him absolutely right. Chris wants to know
Speaker 1: about Karis Garrett from Tulsa wide receiver. He had a
Speaker 1: terrific watching Sanchez. Watch him against William Jackson. William Jackson
Speaker 1: was another one. Yeah, he had a couple of good
Speaker 1: plays and that was a good battle both of them.
Speaker 1: And it's funny at the combine both said each other
Speaker 1: as the best player that case. So that'll tell you something.
Speaker 1: But Kiera's Garrett. He looks the part. I mean, he
Speaker 1: has the physical size that you want, right. I just
Speaker 1: wish you would play up to that size consistently. There
Speaker 1: are some physical corners that really get him off his game,
Speaker 1: and I think that that shows on tape. It's surprising
Speaker 1: for a guy that big too, right, Yeah, exactly, And
Speaker 1: he's a little straight linish. If he's not running a
Speaker 1: go route or a slant, I worry about you know,
Speaker 1: where he's gonna be effective. So because of those reasons,
Speaker 1: that knocks him down a little bit. But he can
Speaker 1: do those things that he does really well, and going deep,
Speaker 1: being a deep threat and then using his body on slants. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is kind of an indication. If you look at
Speaker 1: the combine numbers sixty three almost six three and a
Speaker 1: half two hundred and twenty pounds, and then the times
Speaker 1: for funny on him because they got him as a
Speaker 1: four four four than a four four zero, so evidently
Speaker 1: he might have missed that. I think he's more in
Speaker 1: line with what you see the four five two and
Speaker 1: the four five six playing speed, and then if you
Speaker 1: split those times that makes him a four or five four.
Speaker 1: I think that's more of an indication. I think the
Speaker 1: hand timers, the field timers missed him on the first
Speaker 1: one might have rolled, but but I think he's more
Speaker 1: of a player. When you look at a four or
Speaker 1: five four at sixty three two hundred twenty pounds, that's
Speaker 1: pretty pretty. He sustains that speed too. I think he
Speaker 1: dies as a lot of corners. He's there. You know
Speaker 1: off the line that all of a sudden, after twenty
Speaker 1: yards his speed is sustained and corners are a little
Speaker 1: surprised by that, and that's why he's so effective. Was
Speaker 1: a deep throat, Yeah, thirty four and a half arms,
Speaker 1: and then you know, and then you know, with his
Speaker 1: reach of eighty two and five eights. What's your round
Speaker 1: projection on this guy? I had him in the fourth
Speaker 1: and I might be I might be two, I might
Speaker 1: be Yeah, it's a little higher for me. I think
Speaker 1: more fifth, sixth, Yeah, but I think we know were
Speaker 1: in the same kind of range, you know, day three.
Speaker 1: He's not a top old scout guy falling on old
Speaker 1: scout guy falling like ye miserables? Does it worry about
Speaker 1: you about the routes? I mean to me, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: slant or go? What else does he have besides I
Speaker 1: just I would just think they always look at I
Speaker 1: think Tulsa plays good football, and I'm always interested if
Speaker 1: if a guy could coach him, if you've got the measurables,
Speaker 1: you know, and this is where scouts fall in in trouble,
Speaker 1: is they think edables. My guy can coach him, Mike
Speaker 1: guy can make him better. Sure, he's probably more accurate
Speaker 1: to what he is round projection wise. I'm thinking I've
Speaker 1: got to go around earlier to maybe grab a guy
Speaker 1: that's a four five guy that has that kind of
Speaker 1: height and weight and reach and all those stuff. There's
Speaker 1: a place for him, no question. I just I don't see.
Speaker 1: I don't see a future NFL starter. Okay, very Cowboys center.
Speaker 1: Question for Matt. He wants to know what does Cedric
Speaker 1: Thornton mean. We've been talking forever about that thirty four
Speaker 1: pick being a defensive tackle. Cowboys signed Thornton probably to
Speaker 1: start at one tech. I mean, they gave him eighteen
Speaker 1: million dollars. I think that's a fair assumption. Kind of
Speaker 1: makes it seem unlikely that defensive tackles your thirty fourth pick,
Speaker 1: in my opinion. He said, running back or wide receiver
Speaker 1: specifically at thirty four kind of kind of set something.
Speaker 1: You know, we we've talked about. There's been plenty of
Speaker 1: second round wide receivers there if you're not happy with
Speaker 1: what's going on with the Cowboys. Yeah, yeah, I felt
Speaker 1: like that that was kind of a spot that if
Speaker 1: you said, okay, what are the three areas. I know
Speaker 1: we first started this journey. I was pointing at the
Speaker 1: defensive tackles. I mean it all round on the wall.
Speaker 1: Now now it's like the receivers, and then you got
Speaker 1: some cornerbacks. I was going to say, defensive back strikes
Speaker 1: me as a spot that I'm looking at at thirty four. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think so. I think so too. Receiver too. I
Speaker 1: don't want to There are plenty good Is it fair
Speaker 1: to say? All right, enough about Zeke? We don't think
Speaker 1: the Cowboys like Derek Henry enough to take him at
Speaker 1: thirty four, which is probably where you have to take
Speaker 1: him if you want him. Is there there's not another
Speaker 1: rocking back option at thirty four? Is there? I would
Speaker 1: take Dixon, You would take Dixon. I would take Dixon
Speaker 1: at thirty four, and I would Dan thinks you're stupid. No,
Speaker 1: I think that's way too high for Dixon. But that's
Speaker 1: just me. I mean I that's a nice way of saying,
Speaker 1: he thinks you're that's fine. Who do you got it, dud?
Speaker 1: Do you got do you have somebody? Booker? Who? I
Speaker 1: think third round is where I'm looking after running back?
Speaker 1: I think book I have Booker, slightly headed Dixon. I
Speaker 1: think Dixon's my only second round back I have. I
Speaker 1: this is just me reading the leaves, are trying to
Speaker 1: if they If Ezekiel Elliot's not the pick in round one,
Speaker 1: I don't think they're taking a running back until sixty
Speaker 1: seven or maybe nine. If you remember what happened to
Speaker 1: you last year, I know those backs well happen again.
Speaker 1: It could very well happen again, you know, And you
Speaker 1: start thinking about the names. Who do you have? Can
Speaker 1: you give me your order of second to third round
Speaker 1: backs or third round backs, whoever you get? Henry I
Speaker 1: have been the second rounder, and then Booker, and then
Speaker 1: Dixon and then Process. Okay that's my and then Zeke
Speaker 1: at the number one, that'd be my top five. Yeah,
Speaker 1: somebody in that. This is actually great as a great segue.
Speaker 1: Dixon is my only second round guy. That's my only guy.
Speaker 1: But I love I love every name. I don't think
Speaker 1: they would take Henry. And I understand why he's got
Speaker 1: Henry where he does. I get it, But I I
Speaker 1: it was very difficult for me to pull somebody out,
Speaker 1: and I pulled Dixon out of there just because of
Speaker 1: what I saw. I know you you give him a
Speaker 1: second round grade, But do you think he is the
Speaker 1: thirty fourth best player in this draft. Since it is
Speaker 1: such a high second round pick, it's basic. You gave
Speaker 1: me a choice. So if you gave me a choice
Speaker 1: of him or or Dotson or say William Jackson, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that? Is that does that make this? Does that?
Speaker 1: I mean William Jackson makes a lot of sense. He does.
Speaker 1: I like William Dotson makes a lot of sense. I
Speaker 1: like that too, So that would mean Dickson would probably
Speaker 1: not He would be third of that group. Bring on,
Speaker 1: bring on Corey Coleman. If he's there while we're at it,
Speaker 1: I'll take him. Dotson's first round player. I think he's
Speaker 1: border line. Uh, bring on will Fuller, I'll take him too.
Speaker 1: I'm down on these receivers. I keep moving them. I mean,
Speaker 1: the more hang on, I'm trying to get to your
Speaker 1: a lot of receivers. I love it thirty four. No
Speaker 1: running backs, I love it thirty No, I'm kind of
Speaker 1: the same way I think treadwalls. Did you take him
Speaker 1: thirty four? Uh, he'd be one of the guys that
Speaker 1: considered I get to ride a round to players though.
Speaker 1: That would make you think differently about taking a running back. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: exactly and I probably not taking a running back at
Speaker 1: thirty four, okay, because I think there's gonna be much
Speaker 1: better players available. Derrick Henry on my board is like
Speaker 1: forty five, forty six something like that. I think they're
Speaker 1: running backs are gonna come flying off, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: be scrambling in the third round to try and find
Speaker 1: a running back. I think we're gonna be I think
Speaker 1: as much as I want Zeke to be the pick,
Speaker 1: I think we'll be waiting until Saturday for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: to pick a running back. That's my guest, Collins, how
Speaker 1: about Randall? Answer, give me a third day back? Then?
Speaker 1: Do you have a third day back? Jonathan Williams Alex
Speaker 1: Collins teammate back. We're back at this. Yeah. Here we
Speaker 1: go flying under the radar because of his foot and
Speaker 1: he's a local kid. Bring him in, love to have him. Okay,
Speaker 1: what rand This is a Twitter question. This isn't just me,
Speaker 1: but Randall. Randall's days, you're gonna Randall wants to know
Speaker 1: give it. He wants a round on Kelvin Taylor, who
Speaker 1: I think is probably the next Emmitt Smith. I think
Speaker 1: you went to Florida. It's fine, don't listen to me.
Speaker 1: You don't hear my story about him? No, I don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, and it's you talk about third day back.
Speaker 1: I think Kelln Taylor. I think I got the fourth,
Speaker 1: fifth round, the fifth. Yeah, I think that's kind of
Speaker 1: the range where where you're gonna get him. He's quicker
Speaker 1: than fast. Uh doesn't catch the ball great, No, and
Speaker 1: he didn't have a lot of reps doing it in college.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, smaller hands, but he holds
Speaker 1: onto the football. He didn't fumble in all. He was
Speaker 1: a tough son of this old man was there. I mean,
Speaker 1: my god, he's more like his mom than his dad.
Speaker 1: I guess, Brad, so fourth or fifth round for Taylor
Speaker 1: probably I had him in the fifth, okay, Brad. But
Speaker 1: Dane doesn't think I have any These backs round. You
Speaker 1: guys are about to come over the table at each
Speaker 1: other about these running backs. And I love that's the
Speaker 1: running backs and receivers. I love it that the second, third,
Speaker 1: fourth rounds they're all over the place. I'm orders of
Speaker 1: that way though, too. Oh yeah, quartering Ted Thompson, Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick here, and we'll all have different orders for the
Speaker 1: running backs and wide receivers in this group. I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I'm with you, all right, Dave, Sorry about that. Brad
Speaker 1: wants to know we're getting into hypotheticals. Why the hell not,
Speaker 1: I don't care, he said. If Bosa, Ramsey and Jack
Speaker 1: are the first three picks, now what so Bosa then
Speaker 1: we go to Tennessee at one? Yeah, Jack, Cleveland two.
Speaker 1: Just just say they're the three. They're gone. They're the
Speaker 1: first three picks. It doesn't matter. You have you have
Speaker 1: a shot at a quarterback there. Yeah, and you have
Speaker 1: a shot at Tounsel. I think with these quarterbacks, didn't
Speaker 1: trade back. You have to make the decision before the
Speaker 1: draft starts whether or not you're going to draft the quarterback.
Speaker 1: I mean you don't. I don't think you. It's a situation.
Speaker 1: Were all their quarterback on the board? No, you have
Speaker 1: to make a decision before the draft either if a
Speaker 1: quarterbacks there were taking him. If he's not, we're not
Speaker 1: going to take him. And so. But that's by way
Speaker 1: you put him on the board, though, isn't it. Quarterback
Speaker 1: you've made that decision. If you've got him in the
Speaker 1: top four or five on your board, you've made the decision.
Speaker 1: You're willing to take a quarterback, haven't you. And there's
Speaker 1: a difference between you actually pulling the trigger and then
Speaker 1: you know the way you put him on the board. No,
Speaker 1: that's I'm not saying that's the way I'm doing. I'm
Speaker 1: saying that's just reality. I mean, you could don't put
Speaker 1: him in the top five. Oh yeah, no, I agree.
Speaker 1: But who who's putting him in the top five? Well,
Speaker 1: let's I'm saying, what if they put him? But by
Speaker 1: the scenario he just painted my quarterbacks still in play?
Speaker 1: If I have the okay, well then you have one.
Speaker 1: Then you're making the decision pre draft that if if
Speaker 1: our quarterbacks there were taking by where you put that
Speaker 1: tag on the wall. Sure, yeah, but I don't think
Speaker 1: they're going. If you're gonna take a quarterback at four,
Speaker 1: then you're not taking a position player over him. In
Speaker 1: my opinion, if you're taking a quarterback, taking a quarterback
Speaker 1: doesn't matter who else is there. Tag tells me, the
Speaker 1: board tells me to do that. But quarterback quarterbacks are different,
Speaker 1: especially in this situation, like if you have Bosa number
Speaker 1: one on your board and Golf number two. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think if Boast is there, I don't think it
Speaker 1: matters if you're taking a quarterback and your quarterbacks there
Speaker 1: you're taking. I agree, it's a philosophy thing they got.
Speaker 1: You gotta know before this thing even starts, if you're
Speaker 1: really willing to do it, because if you're doing golf there,
Speaker 1: you put him there and you're thinking while he's not
Speaker 1: going to be there, but then he's there, you gotta
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't think to what you want to
Speaker 1: do in the first quarters different quarterback. I think you
Speaker 1: gotta tree quarterback different. Yeah, you have. Honestly, God, I
Speaker 1: think they need to decide anything they need to decide
Speaker 1: before this thing starts. If they're going to draft a
Speaker 1: quarterba if a quarterback's not as good as another position player,
Speaker 1: don't put him up there. Then that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But they're picking so early in the draft that I
Speaker 1: don't think there's big separation. But like the top five
Speaker 1: players in this draft, there's not much big separation. If
Speaker 1: the cowboards are picking fifteenth, that's a little different picking fourth.
Speaker 1: There's not a big separation between the top five players
Speaker 1: in this draft. So if you feel it like a
Speaker 1: quarterback is five in this draft, then you take him
Speaker 1: no matter what. Then you. That's why he's on the board.
Speaker 1: For argument's sake. If I mean, so, Goff is not
Speaker 1: your highest rated player on the board, you don't expect
Speaker 1: him to fall to you, but he's there at four.
Speaker 1: You don't even consider that. Well, I consider it, yes,
Speaker 1: even though he's not the top rated guy on your board. Though,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. No, no, no, no, no, no no,
Speaker 1: I'm putting I've got my stack of the players I
Speaker 1: would take one to one fifty and that's how I'm
Speaker 1: gonna follow him. That I've solved my Goff. Goff is there.
Speaker 1: Let's say, Bossa, is your top guy, your top five
Speaker 1: guys overall? Do you have a top five? You have
Speaker 1: a quarterback in your top five? No? Okay, see that's
Speaker 1: I'm saying that right there. Tells me he's not going
Speaker 1: to take a quarterback, right exactly. And the Cowboys might
Speaker 1: think this differently though, Oh, that's I'm saying. You're telling
Speaker 1: you don't wind to dress your board. No, but if
Speaker 1: you have a quarterback, I didn't get to treat quarterbacks differently.
Speaker 1: If you have a quarterback ranked as one of the
Speaker 1: top five players in this draft and he's available at four.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who else is available, you have to
Speaker 1: take him. I mean exactly, I know I did I
Speaker 1: just say that. I don't think so. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm doing a lot of yelling. Okay, I'm not yelling.
Speaker 1: If you have both as your number one player in
Speaker 1: this draft, and they have golf two and they're both
Speaker 1: available at four, yeah, I think you have to take
Speaker 1: the quarterback. Yeah, even though you have Boso ranked a
Speaker 1: little higher. I don't think. I don't see much suff
Speaker 1: Bosha is higher than the quarterback on my board. I'm
Speaker 1: taking Bosa. Yeah, And I get that. I understand what
Speaker 1: you're saying from my from my philosophy. If I'm running
Speaker 1: a war room, if a quarterback treating quarterbacks a little
Speaker 1: bit different, I agree with Dave. I think they need
Speaker 1: to know before this thing even starts, if that's they'll
Speaker 1: going to do. Back to the original question, though, if
Speaker 1: those three guys are off the board, that's when I'm
Speaker 1: really looking at Zeke because I'm not taking a quarterback there,
Speaker 1: I'm not taking tons on there. That's when I'd feel
Speaker 1: a lot more comfortable taking Zeke and minimizing my risk.
Speaker 1: That's your hope. They're not they're not taking zeke or
Speaker 1: I can't see it. I can't see it. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I wish they would, but I can't see it. All right,
Speaker 1: we gotta take a break here, last one of the day.
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Speaker 1: Draft Show. Dane Burglar, David Hellman, Brian Broadest, Kent Garrison,
Speaker 1: Uh executive producer, Uh Dave. I want to give you
Speaker 1: an opportunity to have a little fun. Yeah. The group
Speaker 1: we know, y'all are the ones that are gonna get
Speaker 1: I get called out every one on this show for
Speaker 1: not talking about guys that are down the line, and
Speaker 1: I want to do more of that the shows for
Speaker 1: the fans, and I want to educate people more about
Speaker 1: these players. So I know I trusted you to grab
Speaker 1: some guys, and Dan and I are going to do
Speaker 1: our best to educate. So these are these are players
Speaker 1: who have caught my eye. Okay, at one point or another,
Speaker 1: couple of them combine guys, y'all. Y'all are not going
Speaker 1: to be surprised by the first guy that I throw
Speaker 1: out because he kind of perked up some eyebrows in Indianapolis. Okay,
Speaker 1: tell me more. Then tell me more about Tennessee wide
Speaker 1: receiver Marquez North, one of the better blockers. One of
Speaker 1: the better blocking lois Absolutely he's a one note runner.
Speaker 1: I don't see a lot of gears there, and it
Speaker 1: rounds the acceleration. But when the ball's in the air,
Speaker 1: he can go up and get it. Yeah. Really good
Speaker 1: body control too. You watched the game, but Arkansas stay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he turns. They throw a ball at a corner and
Speaker 1: it looks like he's gonna have to catch it in
Speaker 1: the end zone in front, and then he has to
Speaker 1: turns completely around to grab it. So sometimes when you
Speaker 1: get a guy that's got a lot of length height
Speaker 1: to him and they have to adjust his body that way,
Speaker 1: it's a little bit difficult. He looked pretty smooth doing it.
Speaker 1: He's thick, so you think maybe he's a little stiff,
Speaker 1: but no, he booze really well, smooth adjustments on the ball.
Speaker 1: You wonder about the production, the lack of production, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's he went down hill though, got a little nicked
Speaker 1: up though, couldn't stay healthy and say a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of footcoats there on his report. Yeah, y'all
Speaker 1: could just talk about what you see on tape all
Speaker 1: day and that's fine. But I'm a bottom line kind
Speaker 1: of guy and a good projection. I want round, that's
Speaker 1: what I round projection. Yeah, I got gave him a fifth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got him on the board as a five. Okay,
Speaker 1: I actually take that back. I got him to the
Speaker 1: bottom of the fourth. So four to five right there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: tell me more than problem child guy, so this will
Speaker 1: go over. Tell me more about Florida defensive end Alex McCalister.
Speaker 1: Huh have you seen him? I have seen him. Go ahead,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I draft him. I mean I,
Speaker 1: first of all, I think he's a three to four end.
Speaker 1: I didn't really know where to play. Sorry, three four
Speaker 1: backer guy that you want just rushing that passer. He's flexible,
Speaker 1: he can move, he has zero power. He cannot convert
Speaker 1: his first stand power. I don't think he's getting much stronger.
Speaker 1: He was kicked out of Florida. He was that factors
Speaker 1: in as well. I think a team will take a
Speaker 1: chance on him late on Day three. I don't see
Speaker 1: enough there for me to use a draft pick on him. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was the same way. I was expecting a lot
Speaker 1: more from him and didn't and didn't get it. And
Speaker 1: I saw him get pushed around. I mean you quite
Speaker 1: a bit. Yeah, And that that really that I'm thinking, Okay,
Speaker 1: you're gonna hold up in there and and you know,
Speaker 1: do the things you want to do on the edge,
Speaker 1: and I just didn't see it. I think at best
Speaker 1: he's a sub package guy, maybe a nickel rusher, because
Speaker 1: he can bend, he can ben flexible. Maybe he can
Speaker 1: reach the corner and reach the quarterback. But besides that,
Speaker 1: you can't trust him on No, he can't, not at all.
Speaker 1: Another combine, Darling, m tell me more about Georgia running back.
Speaker 1: Keith Marshall. Keith Marshall. He's really interesting because you know,
Speaker 1: he was actually higher recruited than Gurley when they both
Speaker 1: arrived at George at the same time. Marshall was kind
Speaker 1: of that prize recruit and girly he was, Okay, you
Speaker 1: know he's too but like me and Marshall, falk Ay
Speaker 1: and m Yeah, sure, Marshall. He couldn't stay healthy. That
Speaker 1: was the biggest thing with him, his acl that was
Speaker 1: the main issue. He can he can run. His speed
Speaker 1: is fantastic. I wish he had better balance between the tackles.
Speaker 1: I don't see him break a lot of break a
Speaker 1: lot of tackle. He's going down on first contacts. That
Speaker 1: is the first thing I wrote. Yeah, you know, he
Speaker 1: doesn't finish forward at all. I mean, I'm just looking
Speaker 1: at my notes about him. I question his vision because
Speaker 1: there'll be times where they blow it open and he's
Speaker 1: running into something. He runs a blinder and and you're like, well, dude,
Speaker 1: they just blow it out. You know the tackle that
Speaker 1: that we're looking at the thes is it the jo Yeah,
Speaker 1: theis like caves everything down. I'm thinking, just run behind
Speaker 1: that and he's running into somebody, I'm going, that's it.
Speaker 1: You know. He when he does sell explode, he's got
Speaker 1: the speed and he reaches it like that. He's gone, yeah,
Speaker 1: And that's that's a special part of him what he
Speaker 1: does really well. Um, I do think you know, as
Speaker 1: long as the medicals check out, he's draft the bull.
Speaker 1: Uh maybe you can use them on special teams as well,
Speaker 1: because he did play special teams here. Yeah, and so
Speaker 1: I think that will help him. Uh could he be
Speaker 1: could he be your new Dunbar? And he's five ten
Speaker 1: five two hundred nineteen pounds four three one turner and
Speaker 1: at the medicals checkout. That's a guy on day three
Speaker 1: that I look at. How late I was just I
Speaker 1: was six. I was looking at him. I was looking
Speaker 1: at him. I said, And one of my things is
Speaker 1: I don't see a guy that always makes the first
Speaker 1: man miss. No, he does. I mean he's that's that's bother.
Speaker 1: Maybe when you when you think about an explosive, that boom,
Speaker 1: that guy make somebody miss, and then you're and then
Speaker 1: now you're in the secondary cause and problems. I don't
Speaker 1: see that with this guy. That bothered me about him?
Speaker 1: Yeah I did. I'm sorry. When round? Did I have
Speaker 1: him in round? Did you have him? I had him
Speaker 1: in the six? Okay, I did. I had him down
Speaker 1: there with another utility back. Drake m kid from Alabama.
Speaker 1: I've about Drake twelve on my board and I've got
Speaker 1: Marshall thirteen. There you go. I'm scouting him up right now.
Speaker 1: How about that Kenyan Drake as opposed to Canadian Drake? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean Canadian Drake said he's a performer as well.
Speaker 1: Tell me more provision about Georgia Tech safety, Jamal Golden,
Speaker 1: Oh did you like did you like him? Know? I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, why how did you pick this one? Didn'n't
Speaker 1: worry about it? I don't know. I didn't see enough there. Uh,
Speaker 1: there are times if you watch his flashes, I mean
Speaker 1: he can he'll come up and hit you. He will
Speaker 1: do that. Um, but I see too many false steps.
Speaker 1: There's some spacing issues, some timing issues. Um, not enough
Speaker 1: there where I think this guy can really can make
Speaker 1: a difference on my football. No, I didn't see. There's
Speaker 1: plenty of other guys that if I'm gonna take a
Speaker 1: chance on some guys, and you could just go throughout
Speaker 1: this draft and and and find those guys. But I
Speaker 1: I was not. I was not enthusiastic about his tape
Speaker 1: at all. And then and when the safety, like when
Speaker 1: you watch the West Virginia kid, you know, when you
Speaker 1: watch Joseph play, it's like, oh that's a bad play.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he just killed a guy. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: bad play. Oh my god, he just here's a trainer,
Speaker 1: you know. You know, I mean that's you know, you
Speaker 1: gotta have something to keep me going. Yeah, we'll sit
Speaker 1: there and watch tape. We're I'll be like, you know,
Speaker 1: is he gonna make a play? Is this guy I'm
Speaker 1: gonna make a play. And then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: he goes two or three games and the way these
Speaker 1: games are cut up for us, and they had supposedly
Speaker 1: the best plays, and you're thinking, man, this guy is
Speaker 1: not very good. There's about twenty five ish twenty to
Speaker 1: twenty five safeties drafted every year. Yeah, I don't think
Speaker 1: he's wanted the top twenty five. Would I would? I
Speaker 1: would agree on that, all right. I think y'all are
Speaker 1: gonna like this guy better. I've heard this name a lot.
Speaker 1: I don't know enough about him. This is the last one,
Speaker 1: right right. Tell me more about Oklahoma corner Zack Sanchez.
Speaker 1: He's tough. This is one of the tougher evaluations for me.
Speaker 1: He's on a lot of highlight films for receiver. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well he is exactly, but it's hard the amount of
Speaker 1: interceptions that he has. Sure, I mean he he loves
Speaker 1: to bait throws. I was talking to a scout about
Speaker 1: him the other day and he called him mister Cushion
Speaker 1: because he gives such a huge cushion off the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage, because he wants to bait that throw. He
Speaker 1: wants to go for the interception that it ends up
Speaker 1: costing him in a lot of situations. So but at
Speaker 1: the same time, I don't, I don't. I'm watching his
Speaker 1: tape and I don't I swear they didn't coach him up,
Speaker 1: and they just kind of put him out. They let
Speaker 1: him play exactly like they're out there to be a
Speaker 1: natural player and he but he has skill and that's
Speaker 1: what that's what gives me pause because if I can
Speaker 1: bring him in, teach him some technical Wait a minute,
Speaker 1: I tried to coach up somebody wanted to bring in
Speaker 1: a wide receiver and you weren't too happy about that.
Speaker 1: Now you want to coach up a quarter. Well, we're
Speaker 1: just want to bring up that I wanted to bring
Speaker 1: up the Tulsa kid to play, and you now you
Speaker 1: don't want to coach. You're gonna he's a little Garrett's
Speaker 1: tightly wound where this kid can move a little bit.
Speaker 1: Got I think Sanchez, I don't know. He worries me
Speaker 1: because I think he's a He's a Day three guys,
Speaker 1: not top one hundred. You you you get mesmerized a
Speaker 1: little bit by him not making plays, and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, like we're talking about, he jumps out
Speaker 1: there and you're like, ha, got one there, but a
Speaker 1: little bit Jenkins Genors Jenkins who just signed big time
Speaker 1: a guesser gambler fixed two mills. Yeah, the player that
Speaker 1: Sanchez is right now, I do not trust him. There's
Speaker 1: not as far from him on my team. That's what
Speaker 1: I do. Think he can get better. I do think
Speaker 1: he has a little more of a ways to go
Speaker 1: before he hit the ceiling. Okay, well, David, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for tell me more projection. Projection, that's what
Speaker 1: I want. Oh you said late, you said third day guy,
Speaker 1: all right, I have a fifth, I have six okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he's probably gonna go higher than that you wanted.
Speaker 1: You want it? Endo? You want it endo? The line, guys,
Speaker 1: I gave you like fifth three and this needs to
Speaker 1: be a weekly thing and we need to probably more
Speaker 1: reduce well know the name that are coming. So yeah,
Speaker 1: tell me more good I'll bring it back, I hope. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, kid about kid being well done? All right,
Speaker 1: in the last few minutes of here, the last seven
Speaker 1: or eight minutes we got to the show, I do
Speaker 1: want to take some calls. I hope. I'm not putting
Speaker 1: kin on the spot, but you never are right. Well, great, Well,
Speaker 1: so we've got the number there eight eight eight eight
Speaker 1: five five two two nine seven. Everybody on the Draft
Speaker 1: show is doing well today? And who do we got Ki? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got Mike in New York. Go ahead, Mike, Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: awesome show. I really love it. Thank you. Um. I
Speaker 1: have two questions, which you're kind of connected. Number one,
Speaker 1: what objective deck finition is there really for a first
Speaker 1: round player versus say a second round or a third
Speaker 1: round player for example? Is it like quality starter or
Speaker 1: immediate quality starter? And then, depending on your answer to that,
Speaker 1: how is it that we kind of will put quarterbacks
Speaker 1: to say, maybe number eight on our board, so to speak,
Speaker 1: when we know that that position is more valuable than
Speaker 1: let's say a guard or you know, some other position.
Speaker 1: So I'm just curious to hear your thoughts on that. No,
Speaker 1: that's I think what we were talking about about. You
Speaker 1: can stack your board, but quarterbacks are just such a
Speaker 1: different animal. I don't think. Yeah, it's a perfect way
Speaker 1: to put it. How do you really distinguish between you know,
Speaker 1: a player wething a guard that is one of you know,
Speaker 1: the seventh best player, but then a quarterback's the eighth
Speaker 1: best player. It's hard to do because, I mean, you
Speaker 1: just have to value quarterbacks differently than any other player.
Speaker 1: In this game. I mean, they touched the ball every
Speaker 1: That's the biggest cliche in the world, but it's true
Speaker 1: place I was involved with at one time in my life.
Speaker 1: First round player description, rare college player, immediate impact player,
Speaker 1: potential difference makers now is there. Now, that's just that's
Speaker 1: just to describe, you know, in a certain level of
Speaker 1: the round. Here's another one foundation, building block player, first
Speaker 1: year starter, significant early contributor. These are first I mean,
Speaker 1: these are just like little verbiage things that you go
Speaker 1: and you kind of thirty one this year in the
Speaker 1: first round. Right, Obviously there's a difference between the third
Speaker 1: pick the second round player. Then first round starter ability
Speaker 1: will have a defined role as a rookie and will
Speaker 1: develop quickly. See that sounds a little bit different than
Speaker 1: what what you're dealing with on a and I think
Speaker 1: to Dane's point, it's really I mean, it's interesting when
Speaker 1: you're picking twenty seventh like the Cowboys were last year, right,
Speaker 1: it's a vastly different expectation than when you're been picking
Speaker 1: forth And I mean I've been saying this, you know,
Speaker 1: doing radio interviews and just talking to people. Right, it's
Speaker 1: not unreasonable to expect the Cowboys to dri draft three
Speaker 1: starter capable players in this draft. Yeah, that doesn't mean
Speaker 1: they necessarily will, but I don't think that's an unreasonable expectation.
Speaker 1: And I get the you know why those types of
Speaker 1: that exists, and you would identify a first round or
Speaker 1: as this, a second rounder as this, But it bothers
Speaker 1: me because every draft class is different. This year's first
Speaker 1: round is nowhere close to last year's first round and
Speaker 1: the year before's first round. Right, There's so much different
Speaker 1: talent from round to round that I don't think you
Speaker 1: can just classify a second round pick as you want
Speaker 1: this because each draft is different, and I think you
Speaker 1: have different goals in the draft, You have different players
Speaker 1: in the draft, and so it bothers me just predetermining
Speaker 1: what you want specifically in that second round pick or
Speaker 1: that fifth round pick. Okay, kid Seth in San Antonio,
Speaker 1: go ahead, Seth, thank you for taking my call. I
Speaker 1: just wanted to ask what are your all of opinion
Speaker 1: and what do you think are the odds of the
Speaker 1: Cowboys training back A couple of thoughts picking up Zeke
Speaker 1: and in the second round, maybe drafting Billings and adding
Speaker 1: a cornerback in the second round. And also when new
Speaker 1: draft boards usually get released, I'll go and hang up,
Speaker 1: like I'll answer my question, well, thank you. They're never released.
Speaker 1: Sometimes they get leaked. That has a way of happening.
Speaker 1: That happens here. But I mean, if it were up
Speaker 1: to the franchises, you would never know. But every now
Speaker 1: and then you'll see it. It'll come out. But I
Speaker 1: put together one with Jeff Kavanaugh and Kevin Turner for
Speaker 1: one oh five three that we do that. We'll put
Speaker 1: that out the week before the draft of our guys.
Speaker 1: Now we got it ranked. Yeah, ideally you won't. Ideally
Speaker 1: for them, you will never see it. But no, they'll
Speaker 1: probably start putting it together right beginning of April. They're
Speaker 1: doing it. Yeah, they're right now. They're hitting these pro days,
Speaker 1: the early one right now, kind of stacking the board
Speaker 1: a little bit. Right. They're getting an idea, they got
Speaker 1: the medical information, they got the interviews, they've got some
Speaker 1: tape work done, they've got their cross checks done. When
Speaker 1: did the meetings start? Where they start putting it. We're
Speaker 1: gonna see that. We're going to see that the first
Speaker 1: of April. It's different from team a team because some teams,
Speaker 1: some teams go really like sometimes had a board before
Speaker 1: they combine, right, you know, the packers we traditionally had
Speaker 1: our board up are poured up at least through the
Speaker 1: skill guys we'd waited on and then after the combine
Speaker 1: when we'd had the speed, so we had our board
Speaker 1: like three quarters of the way done. Yeah, and every
Speaker 1: team's different. Will is gonna, you know, do his in
Speaker 1: probably in April. I'm gonna hijack his question. We've talked
Speaker 1: about trading back for Zeke a million times. What about
Speaker 1: trading back for like a Shack Lawson, you know, like
Speaker 1: maybe you don't want Shack Lawson at four, but maybe
Speaker 1: you really like him at twelve. Again, we need somebody up,
Speaker 1: I know, I know you have to have a partner.
Speaker 1: I know that, and just know that. And that's no, No,
Speaker 1: it's a possibility. It's a possibility. But I think you
Speaker 1: looked at the Giants at ten. Maybe going defensive end
Speaker 1: is at different now with with the moves they made
Speaker 1: in free agency. But I still think shack Lawson goes
Speaker 1: somewhere top fifteen, right, But I mean to go back
Speaker 1: to the Zeke thing. I know we've talked about it,
Speaker 1: but it's a little different. Now with Philly at eight, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you have to. You can't go, you know,
Speaker 1: to nine or ten and still think you're realistically going
Speaker 1: to get Zeke. I think the only shot is if
Speaker 1: Goff's there at four San Francisco exactly. They they're worried
Speaker 1: about maybe Philly leap frogging them the five or six
Speaker 1: to get a golf or another team doing that. So
Speaker 1: I think that's really the most realistic offer. I would
Speaker 1: worry about San Diego selling their picks. I would worry
Speaker 1: about San Diego to who to San Francisco. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I worry about I worry thinking the Cowboys might take
Speaker 1: a quarterback. Think of the Cowboys might do that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, but just to make sure of it San Diego,
Speaker 1: San Diego. Another thing might happen too. Dallas might hold
Speaker 1: somebody up on picks. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So they might want full value on pick. San Diego
Speaker 1: might not. San die might say hey, let's just bail.
Speaker 1: It's got to find a trade partner. From four to
Speaker 1: seven still gets you a second round pick. Probably four
Speaker 1: is high. Four is worth eighteen hundred, seven is worth
Speaker 1: fifteen hundred. You gotta make up three hundred points right there.
Speaker 1: It depends I'll desperate the team is, yeah, no, for sure,
Speaker 1: you get that, that's it. And how willing the team
Speaker 1: is to move back? Yeah, you don't want to just
Speaker 1: give up that pick. Yeah, you want to hold somebody up,
Speaker 1: you want to make it. If it's two years ago,
Speaker 1: the Bills moved up from what eight to four to
Speaker 1: get Sammy Watkins, the Browns have to move back four
Speaker 1: or five spots and they had to give a future
Speaker 1: first round pick for that. I mean they oversold. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know it worked out okay for not for
Speaker 1: the Browns because they screw up the picks. Right, it's
Speaker 1: a different story, all right, Ken't you got one more? Yeah,
Speaker 1: William and Shreveport, Well you got the last word. City,
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, guys. I want to ask you,
Speaker 1: could you tell me more about these extra graph piss
Speaker 1: like in a third fourth thrill than when you lose somebody.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard, may not look like
Speaker 1: you're talking about No, no, no, we were. We were
Speaker 1: just mouthing each other when we was talking. Compensatory pick
Speaker 1: pensatory picks. Yeah, yeah, the volume turned out these extra
Speaker 1: draft horses that when you lose a player. Could you
Speaker 1: explain more to me how that works? Okay, thank you
Speaker 1: very much for the call, William. So basically, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's complicated as hell, and honestly, the formula for determining
Speaker 1: how it works is one of the most archaic things
Speaker 1: I've ever heard. But when you lose players in free agency,
Speaker 1: you know, according to a certain value the NFL awards
Speaker 1: who knows, yeah, the NFL a word, you picks based
Speaker 1: on the value that they come to what that guy's worth.
Speaker 1: So the Cowboys lost six guys in free agency last year.
Speaker 1: DeMarco Murray was obviously Offensive Player of the Year. He
Speaker 1: merits a much higher level of pick. But then you
Speaker 1: signed Greg Hardy, who's a Pro Bowl guy. Those offset
Speaker 1: each other. Lose Jeremy Parnell, who's a part time starter,
Speaker 1: thirty million dollar contract in Jacksonville, you're awarded you know,
Speaker 1: a fourth round or so pick. So basically, when it's
Speaker 1: all said and done, the Cowboys are in line for
Speaker 1: probably three or four compensatory picks. I think Parnell's definitely
Speaker 1: a fourth yeah, and then probably three sixes. Yeah. I've
Speaker 1: also heard three sevens though, Yeah, they cannot the early
Speaker 1: indication was it was gonna be an extra four and
Speaker 1: three sixes that's supposed to come out of the day.
Speaker 1: I've also heard sevens. It's gonna come out today, yea.
Speaker 1: Moved up. They usually do it at the owner's mate yea,
Speaker 1: at the end of the month, but there's some buzz
Speaker 1: it's gonna come out today. It basically thirty two extra picks.
Speaker 1: It's basically an eighth round that's added to the draft.
Speaker 1: So we'll find that ouption. So the Cowboys have five
Speaker 1: picks right now. They're in line for for your four
Speaker 1: more trade the picks. Trade the picks still next year.
Speaker 1: That's try. Okay, that's all the time. We have the
Speaker 1: draft show talking about next week. Might go a day earlier.
Speaker 1: I'll let you guys know. We'll follow us on Stewart's
Speaker 1: five days a week. That's the easiest to go on,
Speaker 1: but check out on Twitter. We'll let you know. But
Speaker 1: we might go a day earlier next week, but stay
Speaker 1: tuned for that. I want to thank Dame Burglar, David Hellman,
Speaker 1: Kank Garrison, executive producer. I want to thank Scott Purcell
Speaker 1: and Dave Burns and Blake Silverstone, Uh Silverthorne there you go.
Speaker 1: Someone said, Silverstone thinking a racetrack, Silverthorne for what they
Speaker 1: do for us. In the TV side setting all this up,
Speaker 1: we will see you next week from the SBbc Morgae
Speaker 1: Studios for the Draft Show. Thank