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Speaker 3: Before we begin, please note that for this story we
Speaker 3: interviewed Medium and everyone else for dozens of hours in Spanish.
Speaker 3: We hired actors to voice their words in English. It's
Speaker 3: nineteen seventy seven, the year that Medium Lewin is kidnapped
Speaker 3: and imprisoned. Someone else is in a cell too, in
Speaker 3: a different part of Buenos Aires. Adolfo Peres Esquiel a sculptor, painter,
Speaker 3: a well known writer and political activist in Argentina. Very
Speaker 3: few people dared to speak against the military, but Adolfo did.
Speaker 3: His criticism had reached other countries. He was an international figure.
Speaker 3: How did the junta react? He was disappeared. But for
Speaker 3: a regime increasingly conscious of its global imag disappearing a
Speaker 3: famous activist is a delicate matter. At dawn one morning,
Speaker 3: a guard wakes up, a chains him and tells him
Speaker 3: he's being transferred. That's Adolfo in a TV interview talking
Speaker 3: about what happened. He knew that being transferred meant he
Speaker 3: be put on a plane, a death flight. Adolfo is
Speaker 3: taken to an airstrip and loaded onto a small military Planeacium.
Speaker 3: They chained his legs to a seat near the cargo
Speaker 3: door in the back. He looks out the windows and
Speaker 3: notices they're flying over water in.
Speaker 4: Circles Jella the y.
Speaker 3: He sees this dark mass, the riot and the lights
Speaker 3: off the Uruguayan coast. He asked the soldiers what they
Speaker 3: were going to do with him. No one responds by
Speaker 3: a cal comiosa manipulata. Adolfo sees an official holding a
Speaker 3: box that usually stored tranquilizers. He thinks of his wife,
Speaker 3: his kids and praise Ilarisa Givens. Then he says one
Speaker 3: of the pilots gets a message there's new orders. The
Speaker 3: plane turns around. According to Adolfo, it was pressured from
Speaker 3: the Kennedys in the US that explained why he survived
Speaker 3: that flight. The Junta, no doubt hoped that he had
Speaker 3: learned his lesson from his near death experience. He didn't.
Speaker 3: Once back in the world, he doubles down on his
Speaker 3: criticism of the Junta. Three decades later, he will come
Speaker 3: forward to help Medium and Giancarlo bring the pilots of
Speaker 3: those flights to justice.
Speaker 4: When we approached him, he didn't think twice. He joined
Speaker 4: the case.
Speaker 3: From Orbit Media. I'm Andres caaba Scheedo. This is Avenger
Speaker 3: the story of Medium Lewin Episode six, The Pilots. It's
Speaker 3: twenty ten and by now Medium in Jiancadlo's investigation has
Speaker 3: come a long way.
Speaker 4: To be honest, When I joined Giancarlo, I thought it
Speaker 4: was all going to be a waste of time. I
Speaker 4: had no faith whatsoever. Seriously, I never thought we would
Speaker 4: get to where we are now.
Speaker 3: Not only have they identified the planes used to carry
Speaker 3: out the death flights, they had found one that was
Speaker 3: still flying, a plane with flight logs that dated back
Speaker 3: to the time of the dictatorship logs with the names
Speaker 3: of the pilots, and then they managed to air an
Speaker 3: expose a on national TV. They were excited, even though
Speaker 3: no one else seemed to care.
Speaker 4: The lack of attention from other news outlets was disheartening,
Speaker 4: but the TV report was never our endgame. When we
Speaker 4: were deciding how to show the flight logs on TV,
Speaker 4: we debated whether to blur out the pilot's names or not.
Speaker 4: My colleagues didn't want to imply their responsibility during the
Speaker 4: death flights on the spot. I agreed, but for different reasons.
Speaker 3: On the TV report, Medium had blurred out the names
Speaker 3: of the pilots. She sensed that revealing them at the
Speaker 3: wrong time could ruin her chance of bringing them to
Speaker 3: just this.
Speaker 4: I wanted those names to remain secret until we had
Speaker 4: a chance of filing a formal judicial claim. If we
Speaker 4: had aired the names and those pilots or their friends
Speaker 4: saw it, they would have a chance of fleeing the country.
Speaker 4: We were getting ready to take what we had gathered
Speaker 4: to the courts, but we still needed the right person
Speaker 4: to be the face of this case. I couldn't do it.
Speaker 4: I was already a witness in other trials, including my
Speaker 4: own kidnapping. We needed someone else.
Speaker 3: They needed someone fearless.
Speaker 5: Enrique volunteered drive Away.
Speaker 3: Enrique Pinnedo, the actor in Mogul and former airline pilot
Speaker 3: Jan Carlo admired that larger than life character who always
Speaker 3: saw himself on a stage. Some saw him as arrogant.
Speaker 3: He's perfect.
Speaker 6: He had the expertise and we knew he wouldn't be
Speaker 6: afraid to be at the forefront of all of this.
Speaker 3: But we needed a second person, and Riquae Pinnedo was
Speaker 3: an expert pilot and also bold and maybe outlandish. They
Speaker 3: needed someone serious, someone with gravitas, someone who could speak
Speaker 3: from experience. Endrique starts floating Adolfo perees Esquiel. After Adolfo's
Speaker 3: release thirty years earlier, his story gained international attention. It
Speaker 3: was incredible, moving, horrifying. He survived a death flight and
Speaker 3: brought back a first hand account. The world couldn't ignore
Speaker 3: the evil the military junta did. Adolfo could not be ignored,
Speaker 3: especially after the news came out of the award Brasivan
Speaker 3: Mi profunda gra yel saludo los mil dees de pas
Speaker 3: ivim Garcia in nineteen eighty in the middle of the dictatorship,
Speaker 3: Adolfo won the Nobel Peace Prize. It made headlines all
Speaker 3: over the world, an Argentine human rights activist, winning over
Speaker 3: candidates like Pope John Paul the Second and US President
Speaker 3: Jimmy Carter. Tina's government ignored the news. Local reporters cover it,
Speaker 3: but superficially, never mentioning that Alulfo won the prize because
Speaker 3: of his anti junta activism. The junta had a firm
Speaker 3: grip on most of the press, but still Alolfo's popularity
Speaker 3: continues to grow. By twenty ten, Alolfo is a national hero,
Speaker 3: so for Endrique it was obvious he was the person
Speaker 3: they needed.
Speaker 6: I had worked with Adolpho before, I knew that having
Speaker 6: a Nobel Prize winner would be powerful. I called him
Speaker 6: and explained the case to him, and he said yes.
Speaker 3: The first step is to go to the federal Prosecutor's
Speaker 3: office and make a formal complaint against the pilots, handing
Speaker 3: over the flight lugs in all of the evidence they've gathered.
Speaker 3: A judge then as signs of prosecutor to look into
Speaker 3: the evidence and conduct a thorough investigation, and eventually decides
Speaker 3: if there's enough evidence for the case. To go to trial.
Speaker 3: Medium and Giancarlo are engineering what once seemed impossible. They're
Speaker 3: putting the death flights on the national spotlight, making them unignorable.
Speaker 3: Official impunity would no longer be an option.
Speaker 4: So there they were, Adolfo Perez, Esquioel and Enrique Pinero
Speaker 4: going together to ask a judge to investigate the lugs
Speaker 4: we had found, to see if the planes and their
Speaker 4: pilots participated in the death flights. Enrique is there as
Speaker 4: a flight expert and Alotfo as someone who actually survived
Speaker 4: the death flight. They were a powerful duo. The courts
Speaker 4: had to act.
Speaker 3: In nineteen seventy nine, three years into the dictatorship, the
Speaker 3: junta has disappeared thousands of people. Medium is still being
Speaker 3: held captive. The military leaders, meanwhile, are running a public
Speaker 3: relations offensive. It's aimed at countering the Inner American Commission
Speaker 3: for Human Rights. They're coming to Argentina in response to
Speaker 3: allegations of crimes against humanity. The junta works with person Marstellar,
Speaker 3: the New York PR firm, which has an idea print
Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty thousand stickers with a slogan that
Speaker 3: plays with the words human rights. Derichos Umanos, which the
Speaker 3: junta is accused of violating. The sticker's background is the
Speaker 3: blue and white Argentine flag over it in black letters,
Speaker 3: it reads quote dos Argentinos, some of Derichos Eumanos Argentines
Speaker 3: are righteous and human. They plaster the stickers all over
Speaker 3: one osietis. Less visible are the shifts within the military
Speaker 3: junta itself. By now, Navy Admiral Emilio Marsea, who helped
Speaker 3: plot the coup that to the dictatorship, has stepped down
Speaker 3: as the head of the Navy and the top authority
Speaker 3: at Esma. He has bigger dreams to become president. The
Speaker 3: junta will remain in power for several more years, but
Speaker 3: Masia is eager to build a foundation for a future campaign,
Speaker 3: and so he hatches a plan. He will have reformed
Speaker 3: prisoners like twenty one year old Medium help him fulfill
Speaker 3: his dream. But the only way to harness the talents
Speaker 3: of people like Medium is to let those reformed prisoners
Speaker 3: live outside of Esma.
Speaker 4: He saw us, the people working in the press office
Speaker 4: he had built, as his workers. He started trying to
Speaker 4: figure out ways to let some of us live and
Speaker 4: work outside of Esma. They told us we were being released.
Speaker 3: The challenge for Masida is how to let his workers
Speaker 3: live and work outside while keeping them under his control.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Massa had recently left aesthma, but it wasn't as
Speaker 4: if his power suddenly vanished. He was a strong man
Speaker 4: in Argentina, and he still had loyalists inside and outside
Speaker 4: the Navy. Even though he was no longer a part of, say,
Speaker 4: the Navy's formal structure, he could still do whatever he wanted.
Speaker 3: For most of the time she had been in captivity.
Speaker 3: Approaching two years, Medium's parents hadn't known her whereabouts. Early
Speaker 3: in her captivity, she was allowed to phone them, but
Speaker 3: forced to lie and tell them she was with a
Speaker 3: fellow activists underground. Then, almost a year after her kidnapping, Medium,
Speaker 3: as a good prisoner, a seemingly reformed prisoner, was given
Speaker 3: permission to tell her parents the truth over the phone.
Speaker 4: When I told my mom I was in prison, the
Speaker 4: first thing she said was thank God, because she thought
Speaker 4: I was better off there than on the streets. She
Speaker 4: felt I was at least protected. She had no idea.
Speaker 4: I tried to calm my parents down, tell them I
Speaker 4: was okay, and before saying bye to them, I'd assure
Speaker 4: them that one day they would see me again. I
Speaker 4: just couldn't tell them when it would actually happen. Even
Speaker 4: when my dad encouraged me to learn about anarchism and
Speaker 4: leftist ideology, he never imagined it would go beyond the
Speaker 4: intellectual As soon as I formed my first anarchist group
Speaker 4: back in high school, he was worried sick and started
Speaker 4: barring me from activism.
Speaker 3: And by the time she disappeared, they knew what the
Speaker 3: junta was capable of. Her dad knew people who had
Speaker 3: been disappeared. Medium hadn't told her parents anything about being
Speaker 3: tortured or about her suspicions that people were being tossed
Speaker 3: out of planes, so her parents were grateful in a
Speaker 3: way to whatever forces had kept their daughter alive all
Speaker 3: this time, to whoever was looking after her while in prison.
Speaker 3: One day, Medium is allowed to see her parents for
Speaker 3: the first time since their kidnapping. She's escorted by an
Speaker 3: armed Navy officer in civilian clothes.
Speaker 4: My mother opened the door and she hugged me and
Speaker 4: started crying. The situation was a little uncomfortable because the
Speaker 4: armed officer was there the whole time. While my parents
Speaker 4: and I sat around the table, having tea and pastries.
Speaker 4: It was horrible. They asked me all sorts of questions
Speaker 4: in front of him. Are you okay? Are they treating
Speaker 4: you well? What could I reply in that scenario? Yes, Mom,
Speaker 4: they treat me okay. I'm okay. Don't worry. I mean,
Speaker 4: the last thing I wanted was to upset my parents
Speaker 4: even more. I couldn't tell them the truth.
Speaker 3: Then something crazy happens. One day, while Medium is still
Speaker 3: in captivity, Marceda's right hand man, Jrgueduardo Costa, calls her parents.
Speaker 3: He invites them to dinner. They meet at a fancy steakhouse.
Speaker 3: Her parents chose Medium would be there too. A Costa
Speaker 3: also known as Aldigree the Tiger. He's notorious and terrifies Medium.
Speaker 4: He was a complete psychopath. Often he would tell us
Speaker 4: that every night he had a little chat with a
Speaker 4: little Jesus who sat on his left shoulder and told
Speaker 4: him which of us prisoners would go upstairs. Now we
Speaker 4: knew he was alluding to the death flights.
Speaker 3: This guy now wants to meet Medium's parents to tell
Speaker 3: them the truth about having kidnapped their daughter, to talk
Speaker 3: about the conditions of her release.
Speaker 4: It took them by surprise. But they were willing to
Speaker 4: meet him. They didn't know I was living in a
Speaker 4: concentration camp and people were being killed.
Speaker 3: Medium was wearing a blouse with a blazer and a
Speaker 3: bell jacket she had borrowed from fellow prisoners. A guard
Speaker 3: waited outside the restaurant for her.
Speaker 4: When I got there, Acosta hadn't arrived yet. My parents
Speaker 4: were already there. They were nervous because they knew he
Speaker 4: was some sort of big boss.
Speaker 3: Medium's parents apparently saw it as a celebratory dinner. They
Speaker 3: show up to the restaurant with a gift for Acosta,
Speaker 3: a nice bottle of scotch. She was regal. Medium can't
Speaker 3: believe how surreal it is.
Speaker 4: I had never told my parents about the horrors I
Speaker 4: had lived through, about the torture, So there I am
Speaker 4: watching them thanking my captor. Imagine they thought he had
Speaker 4: saved their daughter's life.
Speaker 3: When Acosta arrives, Medium notices her parents a bit tense,
Speaker 3: with fake smiles on their faces. They wanted a Coosta
Speaker 3: to know that they would make sure their daughter didn't
Speaker 3: return to political activism. Acosta orders himself a thick, juicy
Speaker 3: steak in a bottle of wine. He did most of
Speaker 3: the talking that night.
Speaker 4: Agosta tells my parents that I had been reformed, that
Speaker 4: I was very intelligent, that I had a bright future,
Speaker 4: and that now I was ready to be reintegrated into society.
Speaker 4: Then he tells my parents he needs them to rent
Speaker 4: me a specific apartment to keep me safe, that I
Speaker 4: was in danger of being targeted, being seen as a
Speaker 4: trader for working with the military. It was a huge
Speaker 4: financial commitment for my parents, but they wanted to see
Speaker 4: me so badly that they agreed to rent me the apartment.
Speaker 3: At last, Medium is released from prison from esthma, but
Speaker 3: they're not really letting her go.
Speaker 4: They wanted us to think they released us because we
Speaker 4: were finally reformed, but in reality, we were stuck working.
Speaker 4: They forced me to work in different places. Some days
Speaker 4: I was assigned to the Ministry of Welfare. Other days
Speaker 4: I was in Admiral Mascera's office to work on a
Speaker 4: new publication he created.
Speaker 3: In the months that follow Medium keeps a low profile
Speaker 3: to avoid upsetting her captors, but she does manage to
Speaker 3: meet up with fellow activists at times, even though it
Speaker 3: was extremely risky.
Speaker 4: We met in secret. It was scary because they could
Speaker 4: be watching us but we needed to feel like we
Speaker 4: were doing normal things, like other normal young people. Sometimes
Speaker 4: we'd meet at one of our houses, we'd go out
Speaker 4: to the movies or to eat pizza. Only we understood
Speaker 4: one another. We had lived through similar horrors.
Speaker 3: And on one occasion there were consequences.
Speaker 4: I had met with a comrade who had also survived
Speaker 4: and got in permission to leave the country. It was
Speaker 4: forbidden to meet other prisoners, but somehow got to Acosta
Speaker 4: that we had met that night, so I was told
Speaker 4: he wanted to see me.
Speaker 3: She was taken back to Esma.
Speaker 4: He kept me waiting for three hours. I thought he
Speaker 4: was going to kill me.
Speaker 3: Instead, a Costa arrived with a little velvet box. In
Speaker 3: it was a silver bracelet. He told her he chose
Speaker 3: it especially for her.
Speaker 4: I think what he wanted to convey was I have
Speaker 4: the power to kill you right here, right now, or
Speaker 4: I could save you if I trust you. I was
Speaker 4: in shock. I had to wear that bracelet everywhere.
Speaker 3: Medium by now knows how to play her role. She
Speaker 3: thinks a Costa for his thoughtfulness. She's learned to control
Speaker 3: her emotions in front of officials, and Medium continues to
Speaker 3: go to those meetings she grows close to a prisoner
Speaker 3: she had met inside Esthma, who, like her, is on
Speaker 3: this work release program.
Speaker 4: Carlos. He was a kind, warm, genuine person. That night
Speaker 4: I first arrived at the clandestine Center, he had brought
Speaker 4: me some ice cream, told me to stay calm. He
Speaker 4: was in the maintenance group inside Esthma, but his real
Speaker 4: value was that he had experience in graphic design. He
Speaker 4: knew how to use the printing press, so now and
Speaker 4: then they forced him to make false ideas for the
Speaker 4: intelligence agents. Carlos and I had lived through a lot.
Speaker 4: They had captured him the same year as me, also
Speaker 4: for being an activist opposing the dictatorship. He actually tried
Speaker 4: to kiss me inside the clandestine center once we had chemistry,
Speaker 4: but I stopped him. I knew that prisoners were sexually
Speaker 4: abused there. I was repulsed by any idea of romance
Speaker 4: inside prison. Other fellow prisoners developed relationships there, but for me,
Speaker 4: it just felt wrong. But once we were outside those walls,
Speaker 4: Carlos and I would meet up as much as we could,
Speaker 4: and soon after that I was pregnant.
Speaker 3: This wasn't the same exuberant love she had once had
Speaker 3: with one her activist comrade and secret husband, but she
Speaker 3: decided to have the baby first.
Speaker 4: I wasn't in love, but I felt that I could
Speaker 4: trust Carlos. He was a good man. I knew he
Speaker 4: was going to be a good father. Then I fell
Speaker 4: in love with him.
Speaker 3: The pregnancy was unexpected, but at least it allowed her
Speaker 3: to work at just one place.
Speaker 4: They let me choose what type of forced labor I preferred.
Speaker 4: I chose the Ministry of Welfare because it was the
Speaker 4: farthest from Masea in terms of location, though we were
Speaker 4: still working for Masea himself. But if I failed to
Speaker 4: arrive home on time, they'd knock on my apartment door
Speaker 4: and ask me what was wrong. They reminded me that
Speaker 4: my family was also being watched. Not obeying would put
Speaker 4: their lives in danger.
Speaker 3: And every once in a while, as part of her surveillance,
Speaker 3: there were surprise visits.
Speaker 4: One day as Tis shows up at my door.
Speaker 3: Alfredo Astis a naval officer in the Junta. Medium knew
Speaker 3: him from captivity. He was always around. He worked under
Speaker 3: the supervision Veltira Costa, the guy who took Medium and
Speaker 3: her parents to that fancy dinner. One of Astis's jobs
Speaker 3: was to infiltrate a human rights group. He gathered information
Speaker 3: on activities and whereabouts. He helped set up a raid.
Speaker 3: The activists were kidnapped and taken to prison.
Speaker 4: It was very easy for him to do that because
Speaker 4: Astise had a face that looked like an angel's. His
Speaker 4: peers back at ZMA actually called him a lang Hill Rubio,
Speaker 4: the blonde angel.
Speaker 3: That day, Astis knocks on Medium's doore.
Speaker 4: He takes me to his car and drives us to
Speaker 4: this bar and tells me he's leaving the country. He's
Speaker 4: off to help South Africa's government and that if I
Speaker 4: needed anything, I could reach out to him through his parents.
Speaker 4: He then took a napkin and scribbled down their phone
Speaker 4: number save that napkin.
Speaker 3: The tortures seem to believe that they're the protectors of
Speaker 3: people like Medium and are appreciated for it. Astes's openness
Speaker 3: to share his parents' names, their phone numbers, his assumption
Speaker 3: that Medium would want to stay in touch with him.
Speaker 3: It's a big mistake, an amateurish mistake made by a
Speaker 3: respected commander who was traveling to South Africa to help
Speaker 3: that government eliminate resistance to apartheid.
Speaker 4: They had so much power that in their minds they
Speaker 4: were convinced that we were reformed, that we were on
Speaker 4: their side now as allies not enemies.
Speaker 3: That Napkin will later become an important piece of evidence
Speaker 3: in the case linking asties to the junta's atrocities.
Speaker 4: A year after Adolfo and Enrique present their evidence, their
Speaker 4: formal complaint to a judge. Things feel like they're moving
Speaker 4: in slow motion.
Speaker 3: There's no action, but evidence is accumulating. By twenty eleven,
Speaker 3: more and more cases against former Junta leaders emerge. A
Speaker 3: judge decides to include the case against the Pilots. The
Speaker 3: accusations Alolfo and Enrique had made based on medium and
Speaker 3: gian Carlo's investigation to the biggest trial in Argentina's history.
Speaker 3: The outside world starts paying attention, especially in Italy. Gian
Speaker 3: Carlos homeland.
Speaker 4: In Italy, one newspaper devoted five pages to the court
Speaker 4: proceedings and our findings. Dey cited proudly that an Italian
Speaker 4: photographer had been part of the investigation.
Speaker 6: Gian Carlos a good Snigoa the chest of the de Dicartio,
Speaker 6: Pimeno and Argentina.
Speaker 4: This coincides with gen Carlo moving back to Rome.
Speaker 3: In Argentina, there's zero press about the investigation.
Speaker 4: The media was still sleeping on the story.
Speaker 3: But Medium is determined more than ever to see justice done,
Speaker 3: so she turns her energy to the judicial fight. Giancarlo, though,
Speaker 3: has moved on.
Speaker 4: Giancarlo's passion for covering what was happening in the present
Speaker 4: began to fade. He's more focused on photographing the past,
Speaker 4: not what's still unfolding. Once he fulfilled his obsession of
Speaker 4: finding the planes, a new one kicked in, shadowing the
Speaker 4: forensic team who are trying to identify bodies remains that
Speaker 4: were being found in unmarked graves.
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Medium keeps working at Canal Trece. She's got other assignments,
Speaker 3: but she won't let the investigation into the death Lights drop.
Speaker 3: She tries to follow up on her own reporting, and
Speaker 3: there's a break in the story. It's due to a
Speaker 3: simple but radical request. This request came from the desk
Speaker 3: of a prosecutor. It was straightforward, really, He just asked
Speaker 3: for what he wanted. He made a formal request to
Speaker 3: the entire military. They must surrender all the logs for
Speaker 3: all the planes that had flown during the junta years,
Speaker 3: All the planes that could get rid of their cargo
Speaker 3: mid flight.
Speaker 4: It was brilliant, and because I was one of the
Speaker 4: few reporters working on the case, he asked me to
Speaker 4: come to his office and tells me that every single
Speaker 4: division of the military had responded positively to their request
Speaker 4: except the Navy, the ones in charge of ESMA. They
Speaker 4: said they have the right to destroy these types of documents.
Speaker 5: After three years, the.
Speaker 3: Navy still had many pro Hunta loyals in its ranks.
Speaker 3: They were eager to destroy documents that might reveal their
Speaker 3: illegal operations. These included, of course, all their flight lugs
Speaker 3: from the years when they were throwing people to their deaths.
Speaker 4: It was a blow. The only thing I could do
Speaker 4: was just confront the admiral in charge for a TV
Speaker 4: report and have him on record explaining why they had
Speaker 4: destroyed these documents. And we did just that. He just
Speaker 4: gave us platitudes about bureaucracy. It felt like a dead end,
Speaker 4: So what followed was quite unexpected.
Speaker 3: The office of the judge leading the proceedings suddenly receives
Speaker 3: two thousand, seven hundred and fifty eight flight lugs from
Speaker 3: nineteen seventy six. In nineteen seventy seven, they're handed over
Speaker 3: by the Argentine Naval Prefecture.
Speaker 4: And this was a full one to eighty from zero
Speaker 4: lugs to a potential treasure.
Speaker 3: The prefecture, a separate entity from the navy, had undergone
Speaker 3: a complete change. The people who took over came from
Speaker 3: the civil service. Unlike their navy counterparts, they were determined
Speaker 3: to preserve the documents. They knew their historical value and
Speaker 3: how they could help future investigations. Within those documents are
Speaker 3: the thousands of logs for most of the planes that
Speaker 3: were used, including the sky Van that was in Florida,
Speaker 3: the one medium and Giancarlo found these logs.
Speaker 4: Were even more detailed than the technical logs we had
Speaker 4: found in Florida. This was incredible, a one and a
Speaker 4: million chance.
Speaker 3: The prosecutor now assigns a special government unit to investigate
Speaker 3: crimes against humanity, and then includes the Argentine Forensic Anthropology team,
Speaker 3: the group that jian Caadlo's shadowing, headed by Carlos macOS Omiliana.
Speaker 6: So these new.
Speaker 4: Logs, they actually hand them over to Maco to sort
Speaker 4: through an analyze, and in those records, Michael finds a
Speaker 4: surprising connection to the planes and the pilots.
Speaker 3: In the next episode.
Speaker 2: We've identified very few people who died in the death flights,
Speaker 2: about one percent of them. It's extremely rare, But in
Speaker 2: this case, what's also extremely rare is to have such detailed,
Speaker 2: well preserved flight.
Speaker 5: Logs from Orbit Media.
Speaker 3: This is Avenger, the Stone of Medium Lewin I'm your
Speaker 3: host and senior producer Andrescavacchedo. The series was produced by
Speaker 3: Seguiel Rodrie Sandino and edited by Monica Campbell. Original score
Speaker 3: Nicolas Paschella, mixing and mastering Christopher Hoff and Austin Smith.
Speaker 3: Assistant producers Andres Feschtenholz and Eleana Gillespi. FactCheck Alejandro Marinelli
Speaker 3: and leonardos Canoni. Legal review Neil Rossini, Casting director Paula
Speaker 3: Gammon Wilson. The executive producers from Orbit Media are Steve Fishman,
Speaker 3: Fisher Stevens, Marcy Wiseman, and Katie Springer. The voice actors
Speaker 3: in Avenger include Alexis Bloddell as Medium Lewin, Fulio de
Speaker 3: la Volta as Giancarlos Aralvo Bonzalo Vargas as Enrique Pinedo,
Speaker 3: Edgardo Manono Castro as Bruno Vain and Tom schubert, As,
Speaker 3: Carlos Macosmiliana and Gustavo. This podcast was produced in association
Speaker 3: with Sonodos. Annodo Executive producers are Camilla Victoriano, Joshua Weinstein
Speaker 3: and Jasmine Romero. The rest of the Sonoda production team
Speaker 3: includes Senior producer Carmen Gratedol, editor Rodrigo Crespo, Producer Paloma Navarronicoletti,
Speaker 3: Evelyn Urlibo, Mariana Cornel, Sara Mota, Manuel Parra, Hannah Baram
Speaker 3: and Tasha Sandoval. Special thanks to Radio and Casan and
Speaker 3: Pomeranec Recording Studios in Buenos Aires, and to Medium Lewin
Speaker 3: and Giancarlo Siraudo for letting us tell their story. Thank
Speaker 3: you for listening.
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